Free agent pool shrinks as camp approaches
With the news that free agent shooting guard Keith Bogans has signed with the San Antonio Spurs, it got me thinking about all the rumors that have been flying around this offseason involving the Denver Nuggets. Training camp is less than one week away and the roster still has open spots ... so let's delve into some of the hits and misses of this offseason.
As free agency got underway the Nuggets needed to address a few key areas. First, they needed to decide which of their own free agents they would keep and which ones were going to be dispensable. We quickly learned that Denver was hammering out a new contract for Chris "Birdman" Andersen, as vice president of basketball operations Mark Warkentien flew to Los Angeles to meet with Bird's representatives. Birdman was deemed Denver's top priority and was re-signed to a five-year, $26 million contract.
The Nuggets quickly shored up their front court but still had plenty of options to bring in as a fourth big man ... or big man insurance. Denver flirted with power forward/center Channing Frye, formerly of the Portland Trail Blazers, but with Frye eyeing more playing time and a return home to Phoenix chose to sign with the Suns (one-year, $2 million with a player option for a second year) rather than take another bit reserve role with the Nuggets.
I liked the idea of bringing in Frye. He's young at just 26 years old, has good size at 6'11" and 245 pounds, and can stretch the floor a little better than Nene, Kenyon Martin and Bird with his midrange shooting. Frye seemed like the perfect fit, but like I've mentioned before, the Nuggets don't really have the available minutes that a young player looking to make a name for himself would want. So, gone was Frye.
Denver, along with courting Frye, was rumored to be talking with veteran small forward Grant Hill. I shared my thoughts about Grant Hill in my "Nuggets courting Grant Hill?" piece back in July. I liked the idea of having a seasoned veteran coming off the bench, but the Nuggets talking to Hill also made me realize that Linas Kleiza's days in Denver were probably numbered.
Hill was also in talks with the New York Knicks (bargaining leverage anyone?) and of course his former team, the Phoenix Suns. Ultimately, Hill decided to team up again with Steve Nash in the valley of the sun for a run at the NBA Lottery instead of making a title run with the Nuggets (one year, $3 million with a player option for a second season).
I'll admit that both Frye and Hill deciding to sign with Phoenix over Denver confused me, maybe even irked me a little. I don't see the Suns contending for the title or even getting too close to the playoffs next year. Didn't Denver's run to the Western Conference Finals mean anything to these guys? Shouldn't chasing the title as a key player on a team be more important than waking up to 90-degree days? What in the world was going on?
Amid the Frye and Hill news came the defecting of Dahntay Jones. The "defensive specialist" took a four year, $11 million deal with the Indiana Pacers ... finally gaining some much needed career security after bouncing around the NBA and NBDL. Although I was upset with Frye and Hill for not taking the Nuggets' offers, I could not blame Jones for taking the money. Actually, I could not believe that Indiana gave him that deal. Denver struck quickly for a Jones replacement with our "official" trading partner, the Detroit Pistons, for what Denver fans hope will be Dahntay Jones 2.0, aka Arron Afflalo.
Then ... things were pretty quiet for a while in Nuggetland. But that all changed on August 10th when it was announced that Kleiza would be leaving the team to sign with Greece power Olympiakos for a dump truck full of money (two years, $12 million).
This site blew up each day with possible Kleiza replacements and even the Nuggets seemed to be more active as we started to learn that guys such as Rashad McCants, Wally Szczerbiak, Desmond Mason, Rob Kurz, Ronald Murray, and Keith Bogans had been brought in and some were even offered contracts.
As it stands now ... from the list above only McCants, Szczerbiak and Murray remain as free agents, but only Szczerbiak would serve as an adequate replacement for L.K. size-wise. All three guys are known more for their offense than anything and that is pretty much what Denver needs out of a reserve.
The Nuggets bench is a very defensive one ... Birdman, Renaldo Balkman, Anthony Carter, and Arron Afflalo all give max effort on the defensive end and all four players have limited offensive games, although Afflalo may change some minds as the season progresses. Denver's only real firepower off the pine comes in the form of rookie point guard Ty Lawson, and I have no idea how his game will translate to the NBA just yet ... the Summer League showed some good signs, but it's not the NBA.
Heading into this season the biggest question on my mind is: how will Denver's bench play? Last year the reserves were one of the strongest groups in the league. As most teams saw a drop off with starters out ... the Nuggets could actually expect to see leads protected, leads extended, or deficits chopped when J.R. Smith, L.K., Birdman, and Carter entered the game.
How will this season's squad do with the starters out? That question will be answered shortly as the offseason is coming to an end and as we all await the addition of the newest Denver Nugget from a shrinking pool of available bodies.
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I'm not so sure...
If I had my way, the Magic woulda already gave up Dwight Howard for Kenyon Martin.
"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway
Something brewing?
I’d love to see a move the needle trade, but in the mean time. Hopefully we can win this game of chicken w/ Flip over $$. Getting him for the league minimum and having the NBA pick up a good portion makes good business sense. Hopefully that leaves enough to bring Karl into camp.
Talent wise we may or not have improved, but I like the basketball iq of this group more than I have in years and raw talent has never been the Nugz problem.
by Boulder_Matthew on Sep 22, 2009 6:26 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
X FACTOR
arron ALOHA afflalo- he started out in detroit with chauncey and was at ucla in college. not a bad foundation for bigger and better things. nugs have done more with less.(birdman and dahntey jones) this may turn out to be a blessing in disguise. lk and smith were jacking up too many 3 pointers too fast. it was great when it worked last season. this years 2nd string version will be forced to run the offense and make the extra pass. if they stay focused and play within their skill level the bench still can be effective.
by nohoops4u on Sep 22, 2009 2:59 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm really hoping Afflalo has a break out year
It wouldn’t surprise me – I think that was a savvy pickup.
by Missing Lynx on Sep 22, 2009 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Good read nate!
Good read..im going to agree with hvino and say that it has been way to quiet and the nugs are brewing up a little somthin’. I think out of the remaining guys we gotta go for Flip. i hope he signs and takes a chance at a title over more money. even tho training camp is a week away i beleive that the FO isn’t finished just yet, we will have to wait and see i guess.
I really thought the Nugs would make a run for Bogans. Would Wally be content coming off the bench? It’s pretty disheartening to see his game averages have more or less been on the steady decline since 2006.
And just to throw it out there, I have a moderate to high level of expectation for Afflalo. By that I mean I hope he runs his role well – which to me seems to be predominantly a defensive one. I don’t expect 25 pts a game or anything, especially since I think he averages less than 5 anyway…
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I'd be thrilled with 6-7 ppg from Afflalo
w/ solid defense, timely rebounding, and a good sense of when to pass. If he can show that he has any kind of consistent 3pt range, that would be gravy.
by Missing Lynx on Sep 22, 2009 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I hope signing White doesn't mean wer'e happy at 13....
So Flip, cmon man! Take it!
And i hope we dont waste our trade exception that’s expiring soon.
With the line-up as it is...
and if Flip doesnt sign…idk how JR will take it…but he’s gotta come off the bench! Afflalo could take Dahntay’s spot, but JR has to come off the bench if we dont get any bench offense.
jr needs to start
he has 2 years left on his contract. if he does not start for denver he will go some place where he can. last season denver would get behind in the first half then have to fight from behind in the second half. the elimination game with the lakers in the wcf is a great example. jr came off the bench and the nugs took a lead for a short while. the idea is not to fall behind in the first place. the second unit will need to run the plays to perfection, work the clock and not turn the ball over.
When his contract is up...
If he coninues improving the way he has been, he has a chance of being an all-star of very, very close to being an all-star. That pretty much guarantees a contract north of 9 million per.
Even if he keeps at his current production, he still will command strong dollars. He’s going to get his big-time PT and money from someone.
"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway
As someone who grew up in Cincinnati, I can warn you not to have much stock in Flight White. I hope I’m wrong but if Von Wafer couldn’t even get in for the Nuggets but was ahead of White on the Rockets depth chart, that’s saying something. White can dunk, that’s for sure, but he’s more of an athlete than a basketball player. I hope I’m wrong and I hope he proves me wrong.
I think the Nuggets just have to go over the cap. Everybody knows that Barbosa is available. PHX tried to trade him to Houston earlier this summer and him and J-Rich are redundant parts. Furthermore, PHX is obviously trying to cut money (see: Shaq trade). Can’t the nuggets offer their exception or the rights to Kleiza + someone else (i.e. Carter and White) for Barbosa? that’s 18 points off the bench right there. Of course, that would push Afflalo to SF but think of the speed in the back court with Barbosa and Lawson. I know it’s a pipe dream, but it also seems to make a lot of sense.
by NugNugz on Sep 23, 2009 7:22 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
First time I've heard Barbosa mentioned ... nice call.
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by Nate Timmons on Sep 23, 2009 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Definitely a Pipe Dream
But it does make sense and it would be awesome to watch!
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i have a sister that lives in cincinnati on lyon street off clifton. have you ever been to the accropolis for a 4 way and a triple decker? my other sister lives in phoenix and i have seen barbosa play since he was a rookie. both he an nene are from brazil. with jr and lawson barbosa would be redundant for denver. the nugs need for speed line up- lawson, smith, white, balkman and nene. barbosa’s points come in the context of d’antoni’s fast paced offense.
I have never been to the acropolis but I know exactly where it is as I went to school in Clifton for about 3 years. Then comically enough, I moved to the southwest, but to New Mexico, not Arizona.
I see your argument that barbosa would be redundant on denver, but at the same time, I also see a gaping hole on the bench in terms of how to get points. Barbosa has proven to me (more so than James White) that he can score in the NBA. He’s a versatile scorer who can get in the lane with his speed or hit an outside jumpshot (with that awkward stroke). Plus, I think JR can be more of a creator on offense when he wants to be where as Barbosa has never really mastered that concept. I could see those 2 even playing together, or with Billups size, him and Barbosa playing together. Like i said, it’s a pipe dream but it’d be sweet. JR is starting and while you don’t have to sub in 5 guys off the bench for the 5 guys on the floor, I’d like SOME assurance that our bench will be able to produce.
are you stalking my sisters
or are they stalking you? kmart went to the acropolis all the time. that is the reason he broke his leg in college. i read where barbosa makes 6+million per year. we are really dreaming with denver taking on a contract like that.
JR will not come off the bench.
He’s gonna be starting, but I would also expect him to play significant minutes with the reserves.
We cannot have a lineup of Bird, Balk, Carter, Afflalo and Petro and expect to score any points.
Swats.
Ideal situation:
NBA changes rules so you can have 10 players from each side on the court at once. That way, there won’t be any PT issues
"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway
On a second thought...
That isn’t really ideal. It would be total chaos.
Let’s hope that new owner of the Nets is willing to give us Brook Lopez, Yi Jianlian, Tony Battie, and cash for Kenyon Martin and Malik Allen.
"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway
McCants off the table
Looks like the Rockets are bringing him into camp according to Hoops Hype.
by Boulder_Matthew on Sep 24, 2009 1:28 PM MDT reply actions
Booo...
pickings are REALLY getting slim
by GottaLoveMelo on Sep 24, 2009 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd rather have Flip Murray than Rashad McCants
I’d have some weird Coby Karl/Rob Kurz conbo a bit above that. Both CK and RK would earn about 800k, and the vet mininum is around 1.2 million (I think) for Flip. An extra 400k in cost, but it would be good for the team, as, ideally, they’d be a strong off-the-bench guy alongside Afflalo (CK) and a successor to K-Mart (RK). Hess could get RK into shape, and the Nuggets assistants (like Dantley) can give RK a reliable post-up game.
"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway
Yup...
…which brings me back to “picking are REALLY getting slim”. Free agentwise there is not really anything left and I have a bad feeling the FO is satisfied with not delving too much into luxury and is gonna throw a contract at James White. I will be highly disappointed if a semi-significant trade doesnt happen by Nov. 3rd.
what happens if
I don’t want wally or ime udoka on the team? Udoka kind of sucks and I wonder if he’s even THAT good on defense if the Spurs let him go so they could sign Bogans for HIS defense.
Ugh
Who else is left?
Everyone’s come and gone. Pretty sure the roster as-is is what we’re looking at for the majority of the season, barring a major injury or trade that comes from nowhere.
Swats.

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