Kenyon Martin 2008-09 exit interview
Kenyon Martin has amassed 83 technical fouls in his nine-year NBA career ... 9.2 per season. His emotions can get the best of him at times, but that same fire allows him to transform an entire arena in a flash.
Kenyon Martin, 6'9'' and 240 lbs. He'll be 32 years-old December 30th.
Experience: K-Mart will be entering his 10th NBA season.
Contract status: Martin has two-years and roughly $32.1 million left on his contract. The last year of his deal for the 2010-11 season is a player option for $16.5 million.
Overview of 2008-09 season and beyond: Martin played in 66 regular season games with the Nuggets last year ... starting in 65 of them. He has never played a full 82 game regular season. The closest he came was in the 2002-03 season with the New Jersey Nets when he played in 77 regular season games. The most regular season games he's played with the Nuggets came during the 2007-08 season when he appeared in 71 regular season games.
As the 2008-09 season unfolded we started to hear more about this Nuggets team ... mainly that George Karl gathered the team in the offseason and told them, "I've done it your way for three years, and it hasn't worked," he (George Karl) said. "Pretty and cool doesn't win games. Gritty and tough does." (from Robert Sanchez's piece Rebound in 5280 magazine)
Gritty and tough. Two words that can be used to describe K-Mart's game ... along with high-flying. The Nuggets transformed themselves into a a tough team as the season wore on and in the playoffs they even began to take on the name the Denver Thuggets for their perceived rough style. And the one player who began to embody this toughness the most was Kenyon Martin.
Whether you are a fan of his game or not, he set the tone for the team in the playoffs. Martin either made an early play defensively or gave a hard foul to get his point across that the Nuggets were not going to let you have anything easy. There was talk about Denver stealing a page from the Detroit "Bad Boys" Pistons of the late 1980s and early 1990s ... a throwback to the physical basketball played during those times. Martin played the role of enforcer for the Nuggets perfectly.
And nobody could blow the lid off the Pepsi Center like Martin after a ferocious dunk shook up the carbonated home crowd. I love having K-Mart on this team.
During the 2003-04 season, Martin's last with the Nets, I had many conversations with my buddy Rory about how great is was going to be adding the All-Star power forward to our team. There was never any doubt that the Nuggets were going to sign him and I couldn't have been happier. Was I happy that Denver decided to do a sign-and-trade deal and give up three first-round picks to secure Martin? No. And by the sounds of a New York Times article by Liz Robbins, New Jersey wasn't going to be able to match Denver's offer anyway. But what did I care ... Denver locked up the player that I wanted.
Things went from bad to worse during the 2005-06 season when Martin was suspended by the franchise during a first-round playoff series with the Los Angeles Clippers. It looked as if Martin's days in Denver were over as his body was betraying him and mentally frustrating him to the point where the team suspended him for "detrimental conduct."
But then in the 2008 offseason things changed for Martin. The Denver Post's Chris Dempsey wrote specifically about Martin in his piece titled, Confessions of a converted fast break coach:
Karl, who had past run-ins with Martin, thought he’d be the toughest to get on board with the changing philosophy he wanted to implement – more discipline, improved professionalism, better leadership, and a focus on defense on the court.
He was wrong.
"The guy that jumped in really quick, was Kenyon," Karl said. "We thought Nene and Kenyon were the hardest guys. Kenyon basically said this is the only way we can survive. And as soon as he got back (for training camp) we met and he said ‘You’re not going to have any problem with me. I’m going to be your leader.’ He jumped in and basically called himself out.
"We had our first (team) meeting of the season and he said ‘I’ve been a problem for coach, but it’s not going to happen anymore, and I’m going to be the policeman.’ Our off the court activity was part of it, too."
The change of Martin and the rest of the Nuggets was easily evidenced on the floor and helped lead to the Nuggets most successful campaign in over 20 seasons.
K-Mart's 2008-09 stats:
Minutes: 32 (32.5 career)
Shooting:
FG: 49.1% (48.3% career)
3-pt: 36.8% career high (23% career) Martin went 14-38 from deep. In 2001-02 he went 15-67 from distance (22.4% ... yuck.)
FT: 60.4% (64.8% career)
Steals: 1.5 per game ... tied career high (1.3 career)
Assists: 2 per game (2.1 career)
Rebounds: 6 per game (7.1 rpg career)
Turnovers: 1.6 per game (2 career)
Blocks: 1.1 per game (1.2 career)
Scoring: 11.7 ppg (14.1 career)
Positives / What he brings: As mentioned above, Martin sets the tone for the team. He has the ability to guard bigger players with his athleticism. He has lightening quick hands and is great at slapping the ball away from his man before a shot attempt can even take place. His jumping ability makes him a good rebounder, although his desire to go after more misses could be higher. He loves to run the floor and can finish with the best of them above the rim. He has shown improved shooting range and even likes to fire up the occasional three-pointer (Nate frowns and shakes head.) His attacking style allots him plenty of free throw opportunities. From the looks of things his teammates enjoy playing along side him and feed off his energy. A very emotional player and that emotion can bring out some great things and some not so great things.
Negatives / What needs to improve: Well at 32 years-old there isn't going to be a lot more improvement in overall game. Martin did show a more reliable jumper this past season and as he ages he'll have to rely more and more on his shooting touch than his freakish athleticism. But the good news is that his athletic prowess looked better than it has in years. As a career 64% free throw shooter I'd like to see him return more to that percentage or better than the 60% he shot last season.
When you talk about K-Mart you have to talk about his emotional play. At his high-point (or low-point) he recorded 17 technicals and four ejections during the 2004-05 season. But in his last two seasons he has recorded just 11 technicals in each season and was only ejected from one game (this past season.) I think most of us will remember the technical foul Martin received against the Lakers' Sasha Vujacic for holding his leg while laying on the floor. K-Mart will from time-to-time make you question your sanity with those types of plays.
His scoring averages have dipped in each season since coming to the Nuggets.
2004-05: 15.5 ppg
05-06: 12.9 ppg
06-07: 9.5 ppg (only played in two games)
07-08: 12.4 ppg
08-09: 11.7 ppg
When Martin was a Net he was asked to handle more of the offensive load as the second or third scoring option. In Denver, Martin is asked to be a more defensive minded player and is realistically the fourth or fifth scoring option behind Melo, Billups, J.R. Smith, and even Nene. And with his little running laser in the paint I think we can all live with him not being leaned on heavily on the offensive end.
Finally his contract. Everyone who talks about Martin loves to mention his deal. Was he ever a max-contract type player? Well, he was a legitimate All-Star at the power forward spot when the Nuggets traded for him. Rod Thorn (the GM in Jersey at the time) didn't think Martin would get a max-contract, but obviously he was wrong ... both Denver and Atlanta offered him the max in 2004. With the final year of his contract coming after next season ... how many people will go from hating his bloated contract number to imagining what his expiring $16.5 million deal could bring in through a trade?
Outlook for 2009-10 season: If the Nuggets want to continue to be a tough and gritty team then K-Mart will have a spot on this roster. His defensive minded play makes him a valuable contributor for the Nuggets. In the 2007-08 season Martin shot 53.8% from the field ... last season he shot 49.1%. I'd like to see his numbers in that area once again. Martin is still a 30+ minute player in the league. Offensively I would like to see Martin defer a bit more to his teammates next year. He averaged 9.8 shots per game to Nene's 9.2 per game. Denver doesn't need Martin to carry the big man scoring load as Nene needs to up his production. Defense is what Martin became known for in the playoffs last season as he is Denver's enforcer.
Thumbnail photo courtesy of AP Photos Jack Dempsey.
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Kmart is key
You are going to get a lot of hate on this one. The people from the old Denver Stiffs don’t like Kmart very much.
Personally, I think Kmart and Chauncey are the two most valuable players on this Nuggets team. His desire and defensive tenacity are what win championships. I too would like to see a little more rebounding from Kmart but I disagree with the shooting. If he is around 50 percent from the field you cannot criticise him for shooting. He is very effecient on offense and and absolute terror on defense. The Nuggets would have had a tough time with the Hornets in the playoffs last year without Kmart and they for sure would have lost to the Mavericks. He and Chauncey were my picks for the Nuggets playoffs MVPs.
With the final year of his contract coming after next season … how many people will go from hating his bloated contract number to imagining what his expiring $16.5 million deal could bring in through a trade?
He’s still overpaid and a big burden on the team payroll. Plus, if he were making 2-4 million less per year, he would still be a fantastic trade asset as an expiring contract.
Could that 2-4 million be the reason that Denver had to let Dahntay go?
optimism ftw
No
Dahntay was the most likely free agent casualty from the start, simply because he’s not a next level piece or part of the long term plans. He ended up having a way bigger role than expected after his signing, which to his credit was earned. But to give even a modest amount of guaranteed money over several years would have been stupid, for an overrated defender who is so limited offensively. He’s a one dimensional player with a very nice niche for defense, but not worth more to the Nuggets than a short, cheap commitment. Also Denver didn’t have his Bird rights and most of the MLE went to Birdman, not to mention Denver’s a tax team and already overpaying for too many guys.
I love K-Mart
But there are a lot of things that bug me about him. I absolutely HATE when he does his little slap down on players when he has contained them for a while to draw the foul. Instead of just containing his apponent the whole way (which he is great at when he does) he contains them for 90% of the time then just slaps down on their hands and draws a foul. I also think he could be more tenacious when it comes to rebounding. 6 boards per game for a 6’9 PF who isn’t good offensively is just terrible. He should be averaging at least 8.
But I love K-Mart in so many ways as well. He is a leader, the heart of the team and gets us going on most nights with his great defense, thunderous dunks and insulting blocks. He fits perfectly with this team and I coulnt’ imagine him not wearing a Nugs uni. I hope he finishes his career with us but I know that’s unlikely.
And Nate, not trying to be critical or anything but the first word in one of your ppgs is “weather” when it should be “whether”.
Technical fouls
I think Kenyon Martin definitely lets his emotions get the best of him at times, and does things that make you scratch your head(holding Sasha a perfect example), but you also have to consider how many times he’s been hit with a tech for very minor offenses. I think he has settled down considerably into a more savvy veteran player the last two years, but is still haunted by a bad reputation. If memory serves me correctly he got a technical foul against N.O. in the playoffs when Tyson Chandler wrapped him up, and all he did was try to shake him off. He also got rang up for one when him and Pau Gasol got their arms tangled together, and he was obviously trying to walk away from it. I think Rasheed Wallace is the only other guy in the league that the refs would have whistled on those occasions.
I wouldn’t be surprised if K-Mart has a lower number of technical fouls this year, as he continues to mature.
Very true ... great point on his rep earning him a few techs.
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Love him or hate him...
KMart was instumental in the Nuggetsgetting to the playoffs and surviving as long as they did in the playoffs. I was not a KMart fan until this past season when he seemed to provide more leadership and definitely frustrated his opponents with his blocks. I loved his defensive play; but on offense he frustrated me when he tried quick jumpers instead of passing the ball. At his age, I hope he spends the off season working on free throws and driving the ball to the rim.
Confession
I was tired of K-Mart after the embarrassment of the 08 season/playoffs exit. To me, he was a model for what the team was becoming. A bunch of rich, overpaid jerk holes shouting about and acting cocky even though they had no reason to do so. I predicted that 12pts/7reb was as good as he was ever going to get, and thought that he should have been traded for bad contracts and Chipotle burrito coupons after Camby’s salary dump.
I realize that was a mistake. I never really expected him to become a locker room leader and defensive role player. I really thought he was just all about himself. While K-Mart doesn’t appear to earn his hefty salary on the stat sheet, he was a huge part of the turning around what was becoming a laughing stock into a real contender. His attitude on defense helped mold the Thuggets image and become the team everyone loves to hate, and I like that. So, while I still think Kenyon’s production is wholly replaceable, what he brings in leadership and intangibles is probably not. SO, it’s still probably too hard to trade Kenyon at this point, and as far as bad contracts go, at least he is a decent player. If you separate the contract from what he does then I really like Kenyon as a player. And it is Kiki’s fault we sicd ourselves with his deal.
KMart
The man had a few injury issues, but that happens from time to time. He is a monster for us defensively and is crucial to our tough guy mentality. I was really stoked when we picked him up, yet alot of Nuggets fans may consider him a disappointment, him being the National Collegiate Basketball player of the year and a #1 pick. If he can stay healthy the Nuggets will remain a contender. K-Mart is vital to the Nuggets chances this year and hopefully will stay healthy. I do agree he is getting paid a bit more than I would like to see but well that happens to alot of players in all of pro sports…so what can you do?
K-mart, the enigma
K-mart is such a hard player to hate or love. He has become more lovable after the past season when he stepped up his leadership and was the first to buy into what GK was selling. A perfect example of the love/hate thing for K-mart is his offense. Every time i see that running, jumping, chuck the ball at the basket in the paint move I think to myself that must be the ugliest shot I’ve ever seen, and then I remember his three but at the same time as ugly as the shots are, they’re pretty damn effective and his dunks rival the Birdmans as the most exhilirating on the team. He is one of the best post defenders in the league, but like GN said he picks up poor fouls. There is no way he is worth what he makes though, no way. K-mart is about a 7 mil per year guy, not 16.5 yeeeesh
K-Mart really has one of the most horrible jump shots I've seen recently
That thing has no arch what so ever, it’s like he’s delivering a missile to the basket.
His contract is yarffing huge
Its too bad his contract is so huge, its really the things that has the team hamstrung for a while….
by InboundingLobPass on Aug 4, 2009 5:28 PM MDT reply actions

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