Kleiza is heading to Greece
The Denver Post is reporting that Linas Kleiza will be signing a 2-year $12 million deal with the Greek club Olympiakos.
I was afraid that LK might leave the Nuggets, but at the same time I didn't think he'd really leave the NBA. Denver loses a key reserve off the bench ... and a guy that causes many-a-fans to smash their heads against walls with his inconsistent play.
I was a fan of LK's game initially, but definitely found myself wondering when he was going to realize his full potential ... that's no longer going to be an issue for me since he's decided to leave the NBA. Denver will still retain his rights as a restricted free agent much like the Atlanta Hawks and Josh Childress. So, if LK wants back in the League ... all paths go through Denver and his $2.7 million qualifying offer.
The end result here is the Nuggets losing another member of a team that went to the Western Conference Finals and a Euro League team has poached another NBA player. How will Denver replace LK? Whether you are a fan of him or not ... the bench is now looking paper thin.
Linas Kleiza 2008-09 Exit Interview.
ntimmons73@yahoo.com
(photo courtesy of AP Photos: Mark Terrill)
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Sign Kareem Rush
Now that Kleiza is out of Denver, in order to keep my fandom at an all time high, this Mizzou alumni hopes the Nuggets sign Kareem Rush.
With thy watchwords, Honor, Duty Thy high fame shall last.
Thin?
Now that the LK haters are oblidged the Nuggets are in worse spot than before.
A shortage of Bigs, no bench scoring, and AC. This is not looking well at all.
The team only needed to be tweaked a big and a backup pg. There is a serious problem brewing in the Nugget Nation
Overreact much...
Hmm…doesn’t that sound familiar. Oh that’s right, last off-season and than what happened…
You should have
seen the panic over at BEdge…. just about all summer.
Basically an entire nation of panic. I am glad that’s all over… until some other non-news arrives.
Big D from Blog-A-Bull - "Pritchard is such a genius that teams just give him players for free."
Greg Oden - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Aug 10, 2009 8:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Bedge is always on the verge of hysteria
That’s hardly a new phenomenon.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Lucky
As I said we only needed to be tweaked at getting another big and a backup pg.
Do you actually think that Denver can get struck by the Basketball Gods twice.
Get a grip. And most important the chemistry has been compormised
So I take it you see lottery in our future, or at best, 2k8 Hornets?
I’ll admit, on paper, the latter is what this looks like…but we get 4 slots to use on the best summer-leaguers around…right?
sorry...by that I meant '08-09 Hornets'...
…y’know ,the guys who had a powerful starting five on paper, lots of injuries in practice, and a bench thinner than the paper its names were printed on…
No big deal
He was an average shooter, couldn’t or didn’t pass (0.8 assists per game) and didn’t play defense. Give Balkman some more time. Kleiza was the ’08 version of Camby, ineffective and overrated.
Seriously?
I’m not a very big LK fan – but I somehow feel cheated here. At the very least I was expecting to be able to watch him score 40 points monday – then repeatedly dribble off his foot tuesday for a different NBA team.
Without him though the bench is not going to be scaring any defenses – that much is for sure.
C. the Bird
PF Allan or Petro?
SF Balkman
SG Afflalo
PG The Rook or Carter?
These guys couldnt outscore a WNBA team – we need some help!
Fair enough
The bench is not as stuffed as it was last year, but I don’t see how Kleiza’s presece would make the list you just posted much, much better…
Let’s hope LK will have a good time in Greece and realizes some of his potential.
Let’s also hope the Nuggets will use some of that trade exception money to sign a decent scorer off the bench. I really would’ve liked Warrick, but that’s not gonna happen anymore…
Yeah..
Hey, I hate LK as much as the next guy but he would have been the 1st option offensifly out of all those guys.
I like Warrick too… our options are becoming more and more limited
They won't all play
The five you list won’t all play. Most likely, Bird, Balkman and a backup PG will get almost all the minutes off the bench. And those three won’t have to play without any starters. A lineup of Bird, Martin, The Rook, Billups and Melo, followed by Bird, Nene, The Rook, J.R. and Balkman. Should be able to score with either of those lineups, especially if A.C. stays on the bench.
Getting a real 5 to shift Nene to 4 would be a huge help to depth.
Bring on the Crimestopper!
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Aug 10, 2009 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions
shit fuck ass piss
balls. :(
I hate to say it, but we needed Kleiza. Our bench is now paper thin. This is going to put huge pressure on the FO to sign a backup SF AND a C now.
Swats.
I trust our FO knows what they’re doing. They’ve made some seemingly puzzling moves in the recent past that turned out pretty good in the end. I think we’ll be just fine.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Aug 10, 2009 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe you should go back to some of the game threads and read what we were saying about LK then…you might have a change of heart. ;-)
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Aug 10, 2009 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions
I do not like your particular fetish, Beefy.
Too dirty for my taste. :p
"Keel?"
by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 10, 2009 8:08 PM MDT up reply actions
keep J.R. on the bench
With little or no bench offense then I don’t see why J.R. Smith couldn’t stay as our 6th man.
I just wish we had traded LK during the 07-08 trading deadline when he still had some decent value.
Hopefully this means Balkman will get more than three minutes of PT each game.
agreed
the bench has nobody who can consistantly score with jr starting. Keep him on the bench or get another 2/3 who can score
Not too worried
LK seemed like a good guy, but unfortunately didn’t prove his worth. Frankly he doesn’t merrit all of these sob posts. He’s been ineffective for the better part of 2 seasons. While he did routinely show up against the lakers, I can’t think of too much else that we’d miss. We’ve got some new blood on the team, and more money to burn. I think the 09-10 season will be great.
I remember the panic attacks after the Camby deal went down last year. Let’s not even start that up again. I’m sure that the FO is playing chess again.
If anyone cares to read it, Yahoo has a pretty lame post about this over at BDL.
Problem is
Denver is now forced to replace him with an unknown entity. Kleiza knew the system at the very least, even if he was bouncing the ball off his foot while playing in it.
We need to now fill a backup SF and starting C, rather than (just) a C. That is going to be tough to do and still keep with the quest to reduce the lux tax.
Swats.
True
but we don’t know how the team as presently constructed will produce. The absolute worse case scenario is that the FO plugs in 3 D league graduates into the roster who will just eat up payroll minimum and get courtside seats for each game. Remember that Karl only plays about 8-9 players throughout the season. We have our starting 5, then Bird, Balkman, Lawson, and (fill in obscure bench player). We’re OK. Not great but OK. No panic attacks just yet.
by Joelsopinion on Aug 10, 2009 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm not panicking
But it’s a problem. We needed a scoring threat off the bench, and now that J.R. is starting, who is our go-to guy? Afflalo?
Swats.
Remember when we were in discussion with the Rockets for trading Kleiza for Artest?
Good times
Swats.
dude
that was way back when Artest was on the Kings still
oh, right
well still. looking back, would there have been any question as to whether or not we should have done the deal?
Swats.
and then
what about the LK-for-David Lee that the Knicks wanted to do as they clear caproom for James but Karl squashed it.(him and AC must have naked photos to this much luv) Now were left to geting nothing.
My name is the One...
Karl is to blame once again.
Its funny how we could have had either the DPOY and an All-Star in Artest, or the league leader in double-doubles last year for Kleiza and we didn’t pull either of those becuase of Karl. Now we just let him walk for nothing.
UN-FREAKIN-BELIEVABLE!!!
by GoldenNugget on Aug 11, 2009 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Kinda hard to turn that contract down
as opposed to what the Nuggets were seemingly willing to pony up.
Too bad we don't have any assets . . .
You know who would be a perfect fit into Hunter’s salary slot and his team has shopped him:
Travis Outlaw (too bad we have nothing Portland, or really anyone wants) . .
Exactly
I want to fast forward two years when K Mart comes off the books. Maybe he will use that early termination and resign a long term cheap deal for the good of the team.
Yeah, nobody wants money
I think Outlaw could be had if we could get in a three-way trade with the Knicks, David Lee to PORT, Travis Outlaw to DEN, TE to NY.
Maybe . . .
NY would get involved, but it take eating Jefferies salary for 2 years as well. NYC doesn’t have to trade Lee or sign him to long term contract. Since he is the most valuable asset, the only way they give him up is if someone takes Curry or Jefferies off their hands. . .I dunno, if PDX threw a first rounder or other draft consideration I suppose it it possible.
Rockets
Houston would probably want to look at trading a player or two to get under the Luxury Tax. Carl Landry would really help and if there might be a way to get Shane Battier I would do it in a heartbeat.
If. . Houston want to dump some salary
Landry or Chuck Hayes would fit the bill. I can’t imagine that they would be willing to trade Battier for cap space, but that would be a great piece for Denver. All depends on if Houston is ready to rebuild or still trying to compete.
Might be the best chance for Denver to get a non-D league contributor.
What about Stack?
I know he is old and on the decline but for a one year contract at the veteran’s min I think he could be had and he would be a solid guy off the bench if he stays healthy. Its a risk I would hope we would take because looking at our bench I don’t see anyone who can score. Although our starting five is more than capable of shouldering the scoring load we can’t be successful without that scorer off the bench.
No
I don’t like Stackhouse. Never have. His game has regressed a ton in the last few years and his defense is suspect.
Actually, that sounds a lot like a certain player that just recently signed with Olympiakos…
Swats.
Come over to BEdge and check out the Video of Stackhouse getting brutally posterized.
Big D from Blog-A-Bull - "Pritchard is such a genius that teams just give him players for free."
Greg Oden - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Aug 10, 2009 8:40 PM MDT up reply actions
My suggestion...
I’m not a fan of Kleiza, and think he’s lazy, but this definitely hurts the Nuggets. As much as I love Balkman and what he brings, he is not a back-up caliber player. Rights now, offensively, our bench looks like one of the worst.
I’m going to toss a name out there… Rodney Carney. He’s sort of like a poor man’s Melo, but more athletic. He can score well in limited minutes, can get up & down the court fast, and he’s got a little bit of hops, as well.
His name hasn’t been brought up at all this off-season, and last week Kahn said he was was unsure if he was going to bring him back. I think he may be a cheap, but serviceable back-up option.
by NuggetsFan99 on Aug 10, 2009 12:36 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Carney?
I just looked up this guy on espn’s player database. Problem was, he wasn’t there. Who is he?
nevermind...
Carney’s #’s from last year with the Twolves:
PPG 7.2 RPG 1.90 APG 0.4 EFF + 5.99
Coby Karl
Coby Karl can play some minutes for us, I think he will develop in to a more effective player than Kleiza. Karl is a much smarter player for one, LK had one of the worst basketball IQ’s I’ve ever seen. Coby passes the ball well and shoots the 3-ball fairly well (which is the only thing LK could do, every 5th night).
I don’t really think this hurts the Nuggets. Afflalo will be a pleasant surprise.
by MeloNuggets on Aug 10, 2009 2:48 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
More effective than kleiza?
Really? I don’t see Coby Karl ever getting 10 pts a game in the the association like Kleiza did. I definitely don’t see him ever having any 40 point nights…well, maybe in the d-league.
Sign Novak
This means Naldo is going to get more minutes. But Kleiza was counted on to and did make open threes from time to time, which we are severely lacking right now. Get Novak.
I am with this
Novak can drain the 3 and will come at a cheap price.
by GoldenNugget on Aug 11, 2009 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions
kmart quote"we need a drop dead shooter"
Novak or…?
by The U.N. Fab Five on Aug 10, 2009 4:28 PM MDT reply actions
Utah should be looking to cut salary . .
Korver anyone?
No Utah gives up Korver
If they do I’m all for it though!
by InboundingLobPass on Aug 10, 2009 7:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Not this time
The FO lucked up last year, with the signing of CB and getting the EOY award. It ain’t going to happen this year.
Don't really care much about that award, but they knew what they were getting with Chauncey.
Only reason the trade happened during the reg-season was because they couldn’t get the deal done earlier.
"How dare you condemn me without knowing all the facts?!!"
by Tempestuous Binary on Aug 13, 2009 12:00 AM MDT up reply actions
I know I'm a terrible person but...
Why not try to sign Iverson… He says he wants to win a Championship and he could certainly help the bench out… If he would come off the bench that is…
Just say no
We have an actual team here now. No need for The Canswer to return and mess things up again.
by the real stranger on Aug 10, 2009 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Interesting thought but...
I love AI’s intensity, but come on. He commands the ball way too much to adequately fit in with our current offensive roster. That and there’s no way he comes off the bench. Dude is too proud.
Bruce Bowen
Nuggets should look into signing Bruce Bowen. He wouldnt be the answer offensively coming off the bench but he can obviously defend and shoot the 3. Plus the Nuggets already tried to trade for him according to this http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4370109. Any thoughts?
Trade
I think the Nugs were trying to trade for him in order to waive him, save money and possibly move Steven Hunter (obviously that didn;t work out). At this point I’m almost sure he’ll go back to the Spurs and I think we need a scoring threat to replace Kleiza. He is okay, I would rather Naldo get more minutes he’s a good defender and Bowen is 38. If he would sign for the minimum I’d be down but I doubt it and I think we need a scorer in LK’s place
by runningdonut on Aug 11, 2009 2:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Wow, 62 comments!
The Nuggets bandwagon is in full force.
Let’s go get Kenyon’s “…drop dead shooter. Just a drop dead shooter.”
Best of luck LK. I didn’t hate you nearly as much as most Nuggets fans.
Has Balkman
Really fallen off that much? He was forced out of the rotation last year by Kleiza, but I can’t imagine he can’t put in 10-15 effective minutes in an uptempo system that seems tailor-made for his skill set, especially because he can shift between the three or the four.
Major problem now is simply frontcourt depth. No phone calls to Joe Smith yet?
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I'm sure he can
I wanna see Renaldo get consistant meaningful minutes. The dude lives around the rim. He won’t hit an open jumper, but he will tip missed shots in. In most of the games he got more minutes (when Melo was out) he had like 10 a night, just from hanging around the rim.
by Joelsopinion on Aug 11, 2009 8:01 AM MDT up reply actions
Balkman will be a surprise.
He was brilliant when given significant PT last near and picked up a ton of easy buckets and rebounds. I think he’s going to do nicely. We can definitely add a backup, though.
Swats.
I'm not worried, Kleiza was only in it for the $
Obviously when you leave the worlds best basketball league to join some novice, sloppy Euro-league you don’t give a flying f*%k about the game of basketball but only the money. This should have been clear to everyone when Kleiza’s play drastically fell off the minute he got his contract extension revoked by Wark, thank God. I mean seriously, what did Kleiza even do last year besides fumble the ball off his hands every time someone passed it to him? No people, the Sac-town buzzer beating 40point player we all came to love hasn’t been present for years. I don’t know, maybe he will play better with all his Euro friends over in joke league Olympicacos, but I’m not worried about him anymore.
Now what we are left with is…
A) More playing time for one of the most effecient bench players in the league (Balkman).
B) About 3 mil more to sign other players
C) Nearly 6 mil’s worth in total left before we go over the tax and a roster with 11 players already.
I figure like everyone already said, Cobe Karl will most likely take up a roster spot for 1 mil. But other than that it’s anyones guess what we will do with the other leftovers. I heard Novak and I would love that. He is a great shooter and doesn’t have a personality that Karl will have to deal with. Really though, we could sign a pretty good bench player for around 3 mil, then complete the roster with vets min contracts to 2 other players. But with the way things have been going down lately I wouldnt’ be suprised if another deal went down to swing a pretty good player.
The fact that it's mid-August and there are 70+ comments on this is awesome . . .
My two cents: Keiza literally drove me crazy with his inconsistency, poor basketball IQ, and non-stop shooting (even when he was off). He has a lot of ability but that was not developing as we had all hoped. He’s a piece that we will miss, but I think we can replace him without too much trouble.
As a long-time Nugs fan I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I trust the FO has a plan. They should have earned a little collateral from the fans after the moves they’ve made the last couple years. It’s clear to us that they still need a true center and now a shooter off the bench, but I’m willing to wait and see what they do before turning all doom and gloom.
Come on you Nuggets you need
to sort out the thinness of your bench urgently. I’m rooting to meet you guys again in the WC Final next year.
Also i hope to see you guys strong enough to do away with the despicable Blazers and win the Northwest title again.
GOOD LUCK KLEIZA

When it was good it was really good! But when it was….. well you get the picture….
by InboundingLobPass on Aug 11, 2009 11:36 AM MDT reply actions
I loved Kleiza.
I always loved Kleiza and it hurts to see him go. Still need another big, yes. Hopefully a trade goes down.
The only options I possibly see free agentwise are Flip Murray( I really dont know his status) and Wally Sizzurp. I hate Wally, but he’s good enough to get fill the void left although I would take LK anyday.
I still dont understand the no go on Hakim Warrick or Matt Barnes.

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