Wilson Chandler meeting with Nuggets today
by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 20, 2012 12:17 PM MST
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PrintAccording to Benjamin Hochman (Hooch) on his twitter, Wilson Chandler is in town and will be meeting with the team today. Chandler will also be attending tonight's game against the Minnesota Timberwolves at Pepsi Center.
The Nuggets have a good shot at signing Chandler to a reasonable contract. The only wildcard would be the Toronto Raptors if they offer ridiculous money. Is this the move the Nuggets need to break from their doldrums?
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More offense atleast... his defense is on par with brewers
he can actually make a midrange shot so it can only help
but Will is a physical beast
Brew is more, obviously, lanky and springy
Will matches up against the 6’8" goliaths that we often have to face.
Outside shot is under rated.
ill will
Nene & Gallo can only help at this point
Release the Tebow!
All this talk and it comes down to FTs
I'll take him...if
I think he can add to this team, if he buys into the team. Running out after a make or a miss and unselfishly moving the ball, and working hard on the glass.
He might be a good addition to create offense in the halfcourt where we have struggled.
There really is a huge danger though. If we split the minutes too many ways it doesn’t give guys the opportunity to control the game and finish it off. You don’t want to lean too heavily on a one or two guys, but we have to develop a solid core (I think it HAS to be Nene, Galo, Ty and not Andre and Al) who will be the go to guys in crunch time.
'"It could happen..."
Splitting minutes
If Chandler re-signs to a multi-year deal, I think some other players could be moved. Birdman is already reported to be on the block, and I wouldn’t be shocked to see Harrington join him there. Al has been playing well, but with Chandler here, you don’t really need both of them.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 1:17 PM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind big Al getting traded.
Nothing against him, I actually like the guy and how hard he’s been playing. But if he’s not here then George can’t play him 20 straight minutes without a rest.
Al vs Chandler
I don’t know their games well enough. How do they differ in styles of play?
Harrington was fine at the beginning and I feel like we had a stretch where we started to lean on him too much. I like a veteran guy who can hit a jumper, bring a big outside the paint, still get some boards and play decent defense and create match-up problems for teams by going 3 or 4 players over 6’8" on the floor together.
'"It could happen..."
IMO
Chandler is a bit better defender but less likely to go to the rack.
They have some similarities that match up but Chandler is only 24 so he should be able to handle the grueling schedule a little better.
one difference
Al is certainly the more explosive scorer but, though Will can go into a funk (see playoffs), Will is still a little more consistent than Al is.
Will is young, fast, strong, blocks shots/intimidates. Will is simply the much better all around player
by sgiustra on Feb 20, 2012 2:54 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I tried to give you a rec and the system flagged your post, Alexander Wall
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consider yourself as complimented, AW, I don't know what's with the software
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If you refresh the page it will show up as rec :)
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re: WC
I like AH’s abillity to drive to the hoop but I agree on the “funk” problem. I just can’t see us keeping him around given his age. As i’ve said in the past, age is a consideration for a team that’s developing. Many fans may have incorrectly — IMO — viewed this team through a ‘veteran frame,’ but we’re actually a very young team (26 and under except for Miller, Andersen and Harrington), so it doesn’t make much sense keep AH for much longer.
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excellent take on our take Colinski
Will is not good at handling ball and breaking down defense while driving a la Gallo.
But Will is a monster filling the lane on fast breaks. Will be good alongside TY
I was wondering about the royal our
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 4:55 PM MST up reply actions
i think about minutes and if and i do mean if GK
Would stop playing 2 pgs at the same time it would all work out in the long run maybe but we all kno that GK has to play 2 pgs
I want Chandler
But the issue is that means we need to rid ourselves of Rudy and Harrington.
Sure could have used him on Durant last night.
by Larry Cunningham on Feb 20, 2012 12:54 PM MST reply actions
no way man
the only players i would consider trading are Dre or Moz if it meant bringing in a nice big or a younger back up esk point guard ie an eric maynor sorts to back up Ty for the long run
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 20, 2012 1:08 PM MST up reply actions
until someone
gets injured… Rudy, AAA, Will, Gallo any of them go down and Brewer takes their spot. He can play 2 as well. I know gk run Dre a lot but still Brewer will find minutes in this nasty schedule
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 20, 2012 1:14 PM MST up reply actions
i doubt more than one goes down
if rudy falls, aaa and ill will will take that spot,
I wouldn't trade Moz at all
I’m telling you, this kid is going to be good.
My non trade-able Nuggets:
Gallinari
Brewer
Mozgov
Faried
Heres why:
Gallo is our best player, personally I’m not down with trading our best player two years in a row. Plus, I fully believe in Gallinari, he’s going to be “the guy” on this team. Brewer is the perfect glue guy, something every team needs and his contract is very manageable. Plus, no one is out there throwing out great offers to get the key piece Corey Brewer, so what’s the point of tossing him in a deal or trying to save a little money, he’s well worth it. Mozgov is Denver’s best pick and roll defender. He makes a serious contribution to the defense. Not since Camby have the Nuggets had a center who could bail them out on defense like Mozgov. Young, promising 7 footers do not grow on trees and I personally believe Mozgov is the better of Denver’s two. Faried is a freak of nature and has the potential to become a one of a kind player. He’s on a rookie contract and there’s no reason to deal him.
Some guys (Lawson, Miller, Koufos, Afflalo) only if the right deal came along.
The rest I could see if we found some takers, but personally I wouldn’t be upset at all to see Denver stick with the same roster
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
YES!!!!!!!!!!
Dude will be playing for big money, will have a shot to start while Gallo is out and will want to prove something. I say sign him to one year and see what he does. If he wants a multi year deal at a reasonable price then maybe, but you have to think about the amnesty on Bird after the year to sign Ty long term. Just get his ass on the team pronto! one year or multi year!
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And
Corey sits on the bench BUT you have some serious depth at the 2 and 3 spot with Chandler, Gallo, Brewer, AAA, Rudy
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 20, 2012 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
Signing him to a one year deal
Is a bad move imo. Lowers any chance to get value. Would help us get some wins this year, but in the long run is a raw deal.
I like to think of Brewer as a JR who doesn't take as many dumb shots and plays D
So less minutes is fine as long as he gets his chance for a meaningful 10-12/game
'"It could happen..."
Nuggs will have to unload someone and it will probably be Brewer or Hamilton
Unless someone wants Bird which after the last couple of games, the way he played, there are some teams that could use that energy in short bursts.
Personally I would try to move Rudy keep the rest of the team intact.
why do you have to trade?
why not send Ham back down and keep your roster in tact? wait til the offseason to make roster moves
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 20, 2012 1:13 PM MST up reply actions
I don't see them trading Brewer unless the really HAVE to
Our offensive design, such as it is, requires running. Brewer is a runner for sure.
Depends what you mean in picks
Don’t think either are worth more then a 2nd rounder to be honest. I’d be ok dealing Al, Bird and Rudy in straight dumps if we could tho. Even giving up 2nd round picks would be worth it for long-term financial stability.
Yeah, I guess you could do that
But doesn’t his salary still go into the cap? I think they will want to drop a few $mil if the bring on Chandler.
maybe a team will lose
a sig. Bigman and need a player like Bird to fill in by the trade deadline
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 20, 2012 1:15 PM MST up reply actions
I could see that.
He’s been on the ball lately and he knows the axe is gonna drop. He wants to go into his next gig on the waves of a good rep. Smart!
yep
and he also seems like a great teamate… someone who you could easily pluck into a rotation and be okay with and not have attitude issues or anything like that. It very well could happen to a playoff team in the East or maybe even west depending on what he could bring back… if anything.
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 20, 2012 1:24 PM MST up reply actions
George Karl said about Bird
“He doesn’t give me any grief when I don’t play him. He knows this team has a lot of talent and that I need to give the younger guys some time.”
Hopefully his new prospective employers heard this quote too.
Bird and Al for Hinrich/Dampier/Draft pick
Would be a good trade in the long-term
It'd be Bird or Rudy that gets the boot
Rudy is on a 1 year flyer and Bird has been on the block for a while
There is a roster spot already open
We released Carroll with Chandler in mind.
Just don't hold on to the damn basketball!!!
Still are over the limit
When everyone is healthy, we still need to have 1 inactive as it is now. Before Nene went down, Hamilton and Stone were trading games being inactive.
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 20, 2012 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
We have 14. 15 is Max. And D-League does NOT count if the player is not brought back up.
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Feb 20, 2012 4:28 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
yes
but can only have 13 active. think that drops to 12 in a couple weeks
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 20, 2012 4:29 PM MST up reply actions
Can we make G.K. inactive for games?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 4:32 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I wish
I need to keep trying to contact someone to get the job as a translator so I can provide everyone insight on what GK is actually doing
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 20, 2012 4:33 PM MST up reply actions
Who cares about the active part.
All teams have inactive players as the league minimum is 13 per team
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Feb 20, 2012 4:38 PM MST up reply actions
I think we're going to see a trade for sure
some combination of Bird/Rudy/Brewer/Hamilton/Al/Dre. I feel like any of these guys can be had if a team comes calling with the right offer. I know Karl will be sad to see Dre go, but I just don’t think he fits on this team if he’s not the starter, and Karl plays him too many minutes for being “Ty’s backup”
I agree..
with everything you just said. It’s a virtual lock, if ILL Will returns….
by UKnowULovedVanQwik on Feb 20, 2012 1:32 PM MST up reply actions
don't care here...
All of ’em could go for all I care. I want to see our “horses” get more run. When/if healthy of course.
by UKnowULovedVanQwik on Feb 20, 2012 1:34 PM MST up reply actions
yep
his potential is sky high. I can see him becoming a solid gunslinger off the bench (better than Harrington but similar role)
Haven't seen enough of his D
but I personally see him as a 2 guard. Loved him at Texas – dude knows how to score.
I saw him get his own airball last night
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
Everyone but Hamilton
On your list, I could see. Would be surprised to see JHam get traded to be honest.
We want the stiff list, we want the stiff list!
Pretty sure we were promised a new one of these today! Okay, I’m just going to make up my own.
1) G.K. – For the obvious reasons. If you disagree, you are well within your right to have a wrong opinion.
2) Whoever at ESPN had the brilliant idea to use the term “chink” in a sentence about Jeremy Lin.
3) Nuggets injuries. Hopefully the team has used up the season allotment for injuries all at once.
4) NBA schedule makers. Will be on the list the entire season. This schedule is turrible.
5) Masai Ujiri – for frustrating me by giving no indication whatsoever regarding his satisfaction or lack thereof with G.K.’s coaching this season. Entirely the right way to operate, incredibly frustrating as a fan.
Non-Stiff of the week: ESPN’s score graphic in-game. It includes both the number of timeouts remaining for each team, and tells you if a team is in the bonus or not for fouls. Hopefully TNT and Altitude pick up this idea and add the info to their score graphics.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 1:42 PM MST reply actions
I don't think Ujiri wants another season
of drama like last season. I’m not sure he deserves to be on the Stiff list at this point. I think if we are in the playoff hunt it’s going to be a bit difficult to fire him. I would imagine it would happen in the off-season at the earliest if at all.
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As I said, Masia has done it the right way
I just wish I had some inkling of an idea of what he is thinking regarding the coach. I agree that Karl is most likely here for the rest of the season. And if they miss out on sloan after missing out on Adelman, I’m going to be grumpy.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
If it wasn't clear, I think the reason
he’s not discussing is to avoid any more drama. It’s not to say he might not be evaluating GK, but I think he’ll keep it under his hat. IMHO
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we're on the same wavelength
I just wish I had an inside connection to what’s under the hat. If I can arrange to go to the nuggets bowling thing this year, I’ll ask him. He won’t tell me anything, but perhaps I can read his body language. I’ll have to ask AON if non-verbal communication differs significantly in his native land.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
You can't go wrong adding a solid asset
It’s partly about assets, not just how he fits with the team. If he plays well, he fits fine.
Chances are Chandler will have to settle for less than he wished but at least he’ll have a deal.
With the new CBA and a fresh crop of prospects from a strong draft just around the corner, he can’t afford to be just hangin’ at the local sports bar. Guessing a three/four year deal at $6.5 million plus incentives, similar to Afflalo.
Blockbuster trade pending
With Chandler’s signing no team has a better collection of mid-level, solid talent than the Nuggets.
Look for them to be the third team facilitator in the D-Howard trade.
Will is a no frills
low maintenance kind of guy and thats why he will fit with us.
One way I look at Will is that he’s not a specialist, like Al is for ex. Will could fill in where we need him to and I am most intrigued with him at SG (though AAA is playiing better). At SG Will could spell AAA, minimize the 2 PG tendency. Will could also easily slide to 3 and 4 as needed.
Guys Harrington and Birdman will not be traded unless
Denver gives up more in return. With their contract situations, they are the financial equivalent of being upside down—eating up cap space while aging and having no upside.
I could see a team offering up expiring trash for Bird, but that’s it.
And Al is in the conversation for sixth man of the year
Harden probably has it locked down, but Al isn’t far behind. Neither bird nor Al are going to bring major assets in return, but both still have value and neither has a bad contract.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
Al is not close to 6th man of the year
He started out hot but has regressed tremendously. Bird is and will always be a nice backup big, but he’s still owed 2+ seasons on a contract that’s trending upward while his skills declining. I could see a contender giving up a pick for him possibly, but there are no contenders other than Miami that fit the mold.
Let's just say
that Masai is a better GM than either of us. I would bet you real cashola that he get’s more than a second round pick for Bird. He’ll get something that will make us all amazed at what just happened.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
that's what Ive been saying
he’s gonna make something happen, and chances are it will be a great move
I'd be amazed
If Masai gets even a 2nd rounder for Bird. Both of the other trades he has pulled off, he was bargaining from a position of strength. Knicks were worried Melo would take the best offer (NY or NJ), and the Mavericks were trying to save cap for this off-season.
The draft day trade was gold though. Portland overvalued Felton mainly from his run in New York.
The NBA where amazing happens
and where Masai gets Rudy and Brewer for a second round pick.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 3:20 PM MST up reply actions
Yes understood,
but this year and next are at full price, and he still needs to be bought out on the last two.
Tough to move him until next year, and won’t be easy then. Kinda sucks because he’s taking a lot of burn away from our rooks. He’s been playing bad recently, but he also won a few games earlier.
He's been playing bad because Karl is wearing him out IMO
He and Dre are the only guys who have played in every game this year. They both need a day off here and there if we want them to stay effective.
Lets see if we can get him on board.
If so we’ve got a good chance of winning the championship this year… <— lol
by InboundingLobPass on Feb 20, 2012 2:24 PM MST reply actions
Balcony meaning
upper deck, or club level?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
reply fail
Upper End Balcony 322
so yes upper deck
most seats are good
Let's start a riot!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 20, 2012 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
I sat in that general vicinity
and thought the seats were good. You can see the whole court which is nice
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They aren't bad
obviously not as good as lower level or club. End seats can make it harder to tell what is happening when the ball is at the far end of the court. But going to the game is fun, and you are less likely to run into douchey types in the upper deck.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
i have been thinking about minutes and if and i do mean if GK Would stop
playing 2 pgs at the same time it would all work out in the long run maybe but we all kno that GK has to play 2 pgs
Debate
Will Chandler help get us back on course and into playoffs and win at least 1 series or is this going to be a stupid signing that stunts the growth of our rookies and throws off chemistry?
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Or is this signing
setting up another trade?
Let's start a riot!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 20, 2012 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
This is my guess
Masai is trying to set up the nuggets to be like the Steelers in the NFL. Not the super flashy team, but the team that year in and year out competes, and when things go right they win a title.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 20, 2012 4:52 PM MST up reply actions
I'm just sitting back waiting to see what happens
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It should be a good signing
Provided the team doesn’t also resign Rudy and Brewer to big contracts.
Rotoworld tidbit on Wilson
Wilson Chandler’s agent and the Nuggets continue to engage in negotiations on a multi-year deal, sources tell CBS’ Ken Berger.
Chandler will be at the Nuggets game Monday as he awaits a deal. It’s widely assumed that a contract will be reached shortly. Chandler will join a crowded wing situation in Denver that currently includes Corey Brewer, Arron Afflalo, Rudy Fernandez and Al Harrington. Danilo Gallinari (ankle) will also be back at some point after the All-Star break.
by the real stranger on Feb 20, 2012 5:05 PM MST reply actions
actual news about this?
thats no fun! speculation and fantasies are usually much better
Let's start a riot!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 20, 2012 5:07 PM MST up reply actions
Chandler is good physical player
and a upgrade defensively. I rather have him over Harrington or Fernandez.
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