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The ghost of Chauncey Billups has been haunting two franchises all season and now we can add a third to that list - our Denver Nuggets.

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Since trading Chauncey Billups to Denver in November of 2008, the Detroit Pistons (the franchise that Billups led to back-to-back NBA Finals, including a championship in 2004) have gone off the rails with no recovery in sight. They've had three head coaches since Billups' departure and have won about 38% of their games.

When the Nuggets sent Billups to the Knicks last February as part of the Carmelo Anthony trade, Billups kept the Knicks afloat, covered for their many weaknesses in the back court and helped guide them into a competitive playoff series against the Celtics. Now? The Knicks amnestied Billups before the season started, overpaid for center Tyson Chandler, have no back court whatsoever and find themselves at 7-13 and going nowhere.

And finally, the ghost of Chauncey Billups exacted some revenge on another of his former teams when the Denver-born Billups returned to Pepsi Center last night and torched our Nuggets for 32 points while generating some tough whistles from the referees that only a heady veteran like Billups can pull off. Regardless of whether or not the calls were fair, the Clippers won the game in the same fashion that the Nuggets won many games when Billups was here.

To be clear, I had no problem with the Nuggets trading Billups last season as part of the Melo deal (or ordeal). I love Billups as much as any Nuggets fan, but Billups was needed to get the full package of players back from the Knicks that has made the Nuggets the darlings of the NBA this season. Moreover, paying an aging point guard $13.1 million this season wouldn't have made sense and it would have put the Nuggets in the "bad guy" role of possibly having to amnesty the most popular Nugget since LaPhonso Ellis played here. And finally, had Billups' true replacement - the speedy Ty Lawson, not the plodding Andre Miller - played last night, I suspect the outcome would be quite different.

But that doesn't change the fact that Billups is, has been and will continue to be a winner. And even though many Nuggets fans are seeing a conference finals appearance from the Nuggets this season (something that has only happened three times in franchise history, the third being with Billups leading the way), we should be mindful that Billups' Clippers are just 1.5 games behind us in the overall conference standings.

Watching the game last night, I had an eerie premonition that we'll be seeing Billups and the Clippers in the playoffs. Those things just seem to happen in the NBA. The question is: next time we face the Clippers, will the ghost of Chauncey Billups haunt the Nuggets again?

On to the links...

For Chauncey Billups, It's All Good Again
Our friend Dave Krieger is now doing radio and writing for KOA.

Woody Paige: Chauncey Billups still acts like a winner - The Denver Post
Now that Broncos season is over, Woody Paige actually attended a Nuggets game.

A Great Act to Follow - Mile High Sports
Mile High Sports' Doug Ottewill captures the moment last night when Chauncey Billups met Tim Tebow for the first time.

Nuggets' six-game winning streak ended by Clippers - The Denver Post
Chris Dempsey's recap of the Clippers game.

Clippers' Chauncey Billups gets warm welcome against Nuggets - latimes.com
Broderick Turner of the LA Times talks to Billups about his emotional return to Denver.

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The thing is

Chauncey’s really just a role player these days, and being on a team with 4-5 point guards really doesn’t help any. The Clippers are a good team though, so I’m happy for him.

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by Agaliarept on Jan 30, 2012 11:09 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

Billups showed why he gets paid millions of dollars to play basketball.

It was a winnable game that we lost. Our defense / turnovers late in the game are to blame. Billups’ patented rise up underneath move to get fouled isn’t called as much anymore so he’s adapted his game to include the flop. Sad to see.

by InboundingLobPass on Jan 30, 2012 11:30 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

True story

People thought Chauncey would be mentoring Chris Paul. I think it’s the other way around.

by georgekarl on Jan 30, 2012 11:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Seriously doubt it

And what might “true story” mean in the context of an opinion that’s actually just wild conjecture? Give us a little breakie poo.

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by LongWindedHank on Jan 31, 2012 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

It's an expression that people use

It’s kind of like saying “Yeah, I agree that what you said is true”.

In this particular case, I agree with what he is saying. Chauncey is no longer getting people to fall for his pump fake so he has resorted to flopping. Since this is an opinion it can’t be wrong only something you disagree with. So give me a breakie poo whydontcha.

by georgekarl on Jan 31, 2012 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

No need for panic

Yup last night was a bitter game. Losing at home is never good. Nuggets had chances to put the Clips away and it didn’t happen. Some of it was due to the Clips (yes Chauncey) making big shots. And some it was the Nuggets. The Nuggets need to experience these grind it out games, so this group of guys can get better in the clutch.

Last night was encouraging, down three and Nene makes two big dunks to get the lead back. But CP3 is the best (and most annoying) at getting the most out of late game possessions. All the Nuggets can do is learn from it and move on.

Buckle up everyone. This schedule turns brutal for the next couple of weeks. The western conference is a war. I expect some more tough losses, but there will also be some solid wins. Memphis, Clippers and Lakers will be on the back end of B2Bs, so hopefully the Nuggets can take advantage.

Oh and Ty get well. You were missed last night.

by djyoung71 on Jan 30, 2012 11:36 AM MST reply actions  

Well good for Chauncey to get that out of the way

next time he can go 4-17 with 6 TOs. If there is a team where having Ty out hurts the most it’s probably the guard heavy Clippers. No need to panic, meanwhile Nene almost made me wet myself with his Beast mode last night.

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by Phil H. on Jan 30, 2012 11:45 AM MST reply actions  

Hah..

Thursday will be the Clips 4th game in 5 nights, so Chauncey might not even get up 17 shots.

by djyoung71 on Jan 30, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

I love Chauncey, I love what he did for our franchise

I wish him all the best. From a basketball decision perspective, we had to do what we had to do. Sometimes you have to make tough decisions.

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by chantech on Jan 30, 2012 12:03 PM MST reply actions  

Kreiger piece is good

I can’t hate on Chauncey, even after that game.

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by ParkHillNative on Jan 30, 2012 12:03 PM MST reply actions  

He was sitting in the press seats right next to me at the game last night writing that piece.

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by The U.N. Fab Five on Jan 30, 2012 3:44 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

a denver post commenter said the nuggets are 3-32 with Ron Garretson reffing

Garretson is the guy Nick Van Exel shoved onto the scorers table. Can anyone confirm that stat?

by Rainbow skyline on Jan 30, 2012 12:13 PM MST reply actions  

Who cares about confirming it, sounds about right to me

that man has a vendetta against the Nugs,

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by Phil H. on Jan 30, 2012 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

between that and what Donaghy said,

along with similar cases like Crawford vs. Spurs, and whats-his-name vs. Mavs, how is it possible that the NBA continues to bury its head in the sand about referee bias? Does Stern seriously not care that most every fan thinks many games are borderline-rigged?

by Rainbow skyline on Jan 30, 2012 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

fwiw

Didn’t Donaghy say the refs generally have something against Chauncey?

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by ParkHillNative on Jan 30, 2012 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

can't be...

chauncey gets more protection from the refs than anyone in the league except for a certain 6’11" arachnid currently residing in oklahoma city

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Iverson is what he said.

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by love4nuggets on Jan 30, 2012 6:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes, he is!

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by Andrew Feinstein on Jan 30, 2012 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

wow

if that’s true thats nuts

by skithebert on Jan 30, 2012 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

At some point..

I’ll go in and add ref data to our datasets from previous seasons. It’s something that’s on my todo list but probably won’t get to it until the offseason.

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by chantech on Jan 30, 2012 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

It's more important for over / unders

But yeah, some refs definitely call more fouls which benefits teams that get to the line a lot or try to draw contact (Nuggets with Anthony is one example).

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by chantech on Jan 30, 2012 12:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Donaghy mentioned Dick Bevetta being one of Sterns biggest bad guys

I always have hate him, but after the Donaghy thing I knew Bevetta was dirty.

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by The U.N. Fab Five on Jan 30, 2012 3:49 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

There is only one way Bavetta can stay in this league for so long

and that’s by doing whatever papa Stern demands

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by Phil H. on Jan 30, 2012 4:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha you and I always seem to agree. Here's my list of the top refs that need to be gone, in the order they should disappear.

1. Dick Bevetta (age and corrupt)
2-5. No particular order: Violet Palmer, Ron Garretson, Tony Brothers, Ken Mauer

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by The U.N. Fab Five on Jan 30, 2012 5:15 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I mean its sad, but it definitely happens

I was very proud of our Nuggets for beating the refs in Philly though. I won’t forget that game…it was definitely rigged for the 76ers, but Miller wouldn’t let it happen then.
I think the issue is when the game is close the refs will take over. Another reason Gallo probably didn’t get those calls when he obviously should have.

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by JR15 on Jan 30, 2012 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

The funniest thing is Griffin and Jordan were complaining nonstop

When they were getting away with shoves that led to crucial 3 pointers for them.
I am not surprised that with Ron Garretson we have a losing record.
Where is Mark Wunderlich??? He is the only ref I know who helps the Nuggets out. It is like he is the outcast of the group who says don’t have a vendetta against these guys. Don’t get intimidated by the mob bosses who threaten you, just ref the game the way you see it.

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by JR15 on Jan 30, 2012 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

It's clearly not just about a player complaining to the ref all the time

Because Nene does it even when he gets a monster dunk and nobody else was within 15 feet of him. Some guys know when to finesse the refs and some don’t.

by georgekarl on Jan 30, 2012 12:49 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah, Nene must be one of the worst in the league at it

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by ParkHillNative on Jan 30, 2012 12:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Miss Palmer is the other one we always get screwed by.

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by The U.N. Fab Five on Jan 30, 2012 3:46 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

a few thoughts

Billups executed at least one academy award level flop near the end of the game, but the officials ignored other flops duing the game, so it’s not a big issue. Gallo — however — should have gone to the free throw line more than once (he didn’t earn any) in the last five minutes. Getting hammered repeatedly and having the officials ignore it is somewhat inexcusable.

Like you Andrew, I see Ty’s absence as the big handicap. And I reached that opinion in advance.

We see the Cippers twice more in the next few weeks, as I recall. Winning the first matchup is important but the real question is where wie’ll be after we play a number of winning teams in the second quarter of the season.

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by Colinski on Jan 30, 2012 2:00 PM MST reply actions  

bill simmons is stupid

in his latest column he lists the “up and comers” of this year and manages to include John Wall, Tyreke Evans, Ty Lawson, Eric Gordon, DeMarcus Cousins, Andrea Bargnani, and not Gallo. Not only is he the best player on the Nuggets (better than lawson and therefore deserves a spot over these other guys because his team happens to be better and he is it’s best player) but also far more efficient than everyone on this list with the possible exception of (surprisingly) Bargnani, and that too should be irrelevant because despite his improved efficiency Bargnani is still just as soft and terrible of a defender as ever whereas Gallo is drastically improved in that department. This leads me to conclude (and probably correctly I might add) that Simmons and Co. over at ESPN have not actually seen a single Nuggets game all year. I can see how shocked you all are

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 2:13 PM MST reply actions  

nearly

is not nearly enough. and thank you I noticed still doesn’t matter. If you take the potential game winning three and it rattles in and out, the ref is not going to count it because it “nearly went it.”

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

This happening
And even though many Nuggets fans are seeing a conference finals appearance from the Nuggets this season

would be stunning. We will find out a lot about their chances over the next 17 games. Could be tough.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 30, 2012 2:39 PM MST reply actions  

the future looks bright for our team

but until I see Karl prove he can coach in the playoffs I’m going to keep expecting lots of wins in the regular season followed by 1st round exits. The ONLY time we got out of the 1st round under Karl was when CB1 was coaching us.

by JBnuggs on Jan 30, 2012 3:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm hoping

that another first round flame out would end Karl’s tenure here. Not hoping for the flame out, but if one occurs.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 30, 2012 3:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm sure he'll be back next year regardless

but if we are 1 and done next season he’s got to go

by JBnuggs on Jan 30, 2012 4:33 PM MST up reply actions  

2 games this year have given us a glimpse of GK's playoff rotations

The Knicks game, and the Clippers game.

These are the players that he trusts and the ones he will lean on…subject to injuries. 7 or 8 man rotations will be common and consist of Dre, Ty, AAA, Rudy, Al, Gallo, Nene and Moz (beginning of halves). I wouldn’t expect to see Bird, K2, Stone or anyone else. Missing anyone?

by Pusherman on Jan 30, 2012 4:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Brewer

might see a few minutes

by JBnuggs on Jan 30, 2012 5:49 PM MST up reply actions  

If we have a high seed its possible

Yup if we come out looking pretty after February then I think conf finals is not out of the question. Too early to tell right now.
Remember other teams will have tough schedules too and the Clippers still have to play a lot of games later.
I have faith that once GK has a lead in the REGULAR SEASON he finishes strong.
Remember no more explosive personalities on this young team that is getting to know each other/ yet playing relatively elite ball at the same time.

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by JR15 on Jan 30, 2012 4:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Interesting Fact

Every Nuggets player with minutes this year is averaging 10+ points per 36 minutes, fwiw.

by Kleiza's Corner on Jan 30, 2012 3:34 PM MST reply actions  

J.R. continuing to represent the U.S. well in China
According to Chinese news sources, conflict erupted after Tianjin fans heckled J.R. Smith as he went to the line late in the third quarter. After what I believe to be Thunderstix were thrown onto the court by a spectator, Smith’s girlfriend got into a shoving match with Tianjin fans while his sister flipped the crowd the double-bird…

Stephanie Smith claims on her Twitter that she didn’t start the fight "this time."

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 30, 2012 4:00 PM MST reply actions  

Well to be fair

It isn’t JR, but the women around JR. I have been said to be a calm guy but the women I have been with have been crazy.
Does that make me guilty by association?

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Jan 30, 2012 4:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I think the people you choose to associate with

certainly reflects upon you. The fact that J.R. hasn’t told them to stop or he’s sending them back to the states also reflects upon him.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 30, 2012 4:24 PM MST up reply actions  

How do you know he hasn't asked them to stop?

Easy to tell your “friends” to go away. A little different when it’s your family

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 4:29 PM MST up reply actions  

If my wife was coming to my work and starting trouble

I’d tell her to stay home. She would do the same if the situation were reversed. He’s their meal ticket and could stop paying their way at any time. He hasn’t done that.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 30, 2012 4:43 PM MST up reply actions  

How do you know he hasn't done that?

And it’s your wife. You can divorce her. You can’t divorce your family.

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 4:50 PM MST up reply actions  

She's still there

if he had done that, she wouldn’t be there anymore.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 30, 2012 4:53 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't understand what you mean.

He can’t make her leave unless he calls security or something. And maybe he’s afraid of her. She seems even a little more out there than JR.

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 5:02 PM MST up reply actions  

And you missed Morton

Flying on a purple unicorn.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 30, 2012 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Alas

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 5:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Nuggets still at 3 on ESPN's Power Rankings

and at 4 in Hollingers more scientific approach.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 30, 2012 4:55 PM MST reply actions  

Yup

Lets stop freaking out and reasses at the end of the week!!

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by JR15 on Jan 30, 2012 4:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Freaking out is what stiffs do best.

We are the tiggers of freaking out.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 30, 2012 6:47 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

reass or reassess ;)

That was too funny to pass up

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 7:12 PM MST up reply actions  

More of both.

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 8:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Lawson is the engine for this Nuggets team

He is the reason why we have the fastest pace in the league, the reason why we score so many points. Miller can fill the stat sheet better than Lawson, but Lawson is the reason why our team makes teams visiting the Pepsi center exhausted. If Gallo is the fuel that keeps the engine running, Lawson is the horsepower.

Miller is a great backup point guard and he can fill Lawsons shoes whenever he is injured for a few games no dobut, but Lawson is what makes this team GO.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 30, 2012 5:10 PM MST reply actions  

doubt*

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by CloudBurst on Jan 30, 2012 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

trouble last nite wasn't andre

he could of shot a bit better, but distributed the ball well and protected the ball very well. you can’t expect him to dominate both paul and chauncy.

that said, there was some bizarre play calling by karl the last few minutes. harrington takes too many uncontrolled shots when his game isn’t on. affalo needs to show up soon. would like to see some screen/roll action with andre and gallo or nene as well

by utahcoyote on Jan 30, 2012 6:34 PM MST up reply actions  

probIem is gaIIo cant shoot or get his own shot, he's got very IittIe 1 on 1 moves, and has meh handIes, his offensive abiIity is simiIar to marion, imo with more fIopping.

karI seems to know who to pIay and who to go to when the game is on the Iine and when he reaIIy reaIIy has to win, see pIayoffs against OKC with jr and a some what with gaIIo. and he did Iast nite by going to nene, as he is pretty much our onIy some what reIiabIe haIf court option.

ofc, nene sucks at getting caIIs, and faIIs for biIIups fIop. idk how aI is going to perform for the season, he probabIy wont be as productive as he was earIier, but shouId stiII be usefuI here and there. miIIer’s been pIaying great, getting the team some Iob pIays which we Iacked when we traded away our pg camby. anyways this team Iacks eIite skiII, we have a bunch of guys who can do various things, but no one guy who can take controI and get doubIe teams to open things up for other guys to be effective. this team reIies on getting easy points, and a high rsk high reward defensive system.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 6:49 PM MST up reply actions  

It's a numbers game

You should check out Hollingers PER stats. For small forwards in the NBA check out the top 5.

1.) LeBron James
2.) Kevin Durant
3.) Carmelo Anthony
4.) Danilo Gallinari
5.) Paul Pierce

You don’t get in the top five of the nba’s most efficient players when you can’t create your own shot.

by georgekarl on Jan 30, 2012 7:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Have you never watched Gallo at all?

He can handle the ball decently for a 6-10 guy. Can’t shoot? Wow….he scored 37 on 19 shots vs the Knicks and Melo took 11 more shots and scored 9 less.

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by The U.N. Fab Five on Jan 30, 2012 7:51 PM MST up reply actions  

whoa, he's a sIasher not a shooter, i watch the games, and he scores a Iot of his points simiIar to what marion did in phx.

he had decent handIes for a big guy, but he’s no odom with pg skiIIs. i have not seen one on one move from him, teII me what is his go to move. he scores points by getting fouIs, and gettin on a roII from 3. besides teII me that when gaIIo avgs more than 20 points a game Iike marion did. gaIIo scores in a bunch of ways Iike marion did, he doesnt have any reIiabIe moves, and is not Iooked to be a go to scorer in the cIutch, and he wouId have to do a Iot work to get there to be that so caIIed star offensive pIayer you guys want him to be.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 8:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I saw him hit in the face 6 times without a call

and why the fuck does he need a go-to move. He consistently drives by his defender with a variety of moves (crossover, hesitation, and the best behind-the-back dribble of any 6’10" guy you will see) and either finishes, gets fouled, or both. You are basing your entire analysis on the one game you’ve probably seen all season and the reason he wasn’t getting calls (despite being routinely mauled) was that the head official was Ron Garretson who has a known bias against Denver (Nuggets are 3-32 in games Garretson has officiated). Talk to me when you’ve developed your own opinion instead of regurgitating what you heard chris broussard say (who by the way has probably never seen the Nuggets or Gallo play either)

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 8:50 PM MST up reply actions  

yea i mean why have go to reIiabIe moves when you can just be Iike Iebron and use ur athIeticism to get to the rim.

that’s what it takes to be a cIutch scorer. I have watched nuggets for 10 plus seasons when fortson was their go to guy. if you thnk aII it takes is a mix bag of dribbIing skiIIs to get to the rim and be an offensive star then you shouId re consider. besides he doesnt have the athIetic abiIity to do it when he’s chaIIenged by decent shot bIockers.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 8:56 PM MST up reply actions  

gallo will average 20 a game like marion did

when he takes 18 FG attempts a game like marion did and has steve nash feeding him the ball. Gallo right now averages 18 pts on 12 FG attempts per game, so going by that logic if he took 18 shots a game he would average 27 points, something marion never did

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 8:54 PM MST up reply actions  

he aIso gets to the Iine a Iot, which takes away from the FGA.

watchin the game he’s gettin his share and probabIy more than than marion’s share of offensive oppurtunities in phx.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 8:59 PM MST up reply actions  

bullshit

he gets to the line with efficiency not just quantity. Last year he averaged .36 FT attempts per possession which was second in the entire league only to tyson chandler and chandler’s numbers were inflated because the only time he touched the ball was any easy feed from a pg for an open layup or dunk dunk it made sense that he would get fouled all the time. Also he shot 60% from the line last year so teams employed hack-a-shaq against him instead of giving up an easy dunk

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:02 PM MST up reply actions  

If you get fouled on a shooting attempt

and it doesn’t go in, IT DOES NOT COUNT AS A FG ATTEMPT. HOW CAN YOU WATCH BASKETBALL FOR SUPPOSEDLY 10 YEARS AND NOT KNOW THIS

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:06 PM MST up reply actions  

no

marion got way more offensive opportunities and produced much less efficiently. oh yeah and that was when he was in his prime and playing with steve nash, while Gallo is only 23 and playing with Ty who is good but no steve nash in his heyday

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:16 PM MST up reply actions  

and marion never got to the line?

gallo gets efficeient results on not many possesions. look at his fucking .607 true shooting percentage, which combines his efficiency from the field, 3, and the line. also STEVE FUCKING NASH FEEDING HIM THE BALL

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:12 PM MST up reply actions  

gaIIo avgs 7 fta marion avgs 3.6 fta.

aIos more oppurtunities does not resuIt in more scorin, gaIIo is bein efficient by picking his spots. when you try to go to him Iate and make him score, the resuIts have not been there.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:21 PM MST up reply actions  

actually no

he had 9 points in the 2nd OT against the Knicks most recently and I could name countless other examples but just check this one out (go to 2:30 in the video and note the time and score):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_hebGbtCsI

also the reason you didn’t see produce late in the game against the clips (once again the only game you’ve seen all year) is because GK DIDN’T GIVE HIM THE FUCKING BALL and instead drew up 2 plays for ice-cold al harrington

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:25 PM MST up reply actions  

yea he scored against NYK, and how many of those points came at the Iine.

teII me when has gaIIo made a one on one move and made a shot from the outside. one of those pIays wasnt for aI, the pIay was facked up and the baII got to aI, and he bIew the Iay up.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:29 PM MST up reply actions  

exactly

he got to the line like a champ and hit 90% of them…why the fuck does he have to do it exactly how you want him to? you want more clutch shit?
(go to 1:30) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3aBu5nwlog
(go to 5:07) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY52-1aa3x8
(go to 3:00)http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=QAWKzJcWuXM
(go to 1:33) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw-H4VUzlBo

In all these take note of the time left and score and watch until the end of the video

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:37 PM MST up reply actions  

ok those are from when he was in NY.

so obviousIy you are a gaIIo fan, but as a nuggets foIIower, i have my opinion of him, and i wouId take a guy Iike j. crawford on offense for my go to guy than gaIIo.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I was at the knicks game on the 21st

when he was with… wait for it…. the Denver Nuggets and he single-handedly kept them alive and they eventually pulled it out

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

gallo actually averages 6 FTA

and instead of getting to the line with those possessions he chose instead to take field goal attempts and make 46% of them, coincidentally the same percentage as Gallo shoots from the field

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:39 PM MST up reply actions  

he meaning marion

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:39 PM MST up reply actions  

no its not

I watched him in New York for 2 1/2 years. do you know how pathetic it is that you either have these opinions with no stats to back them up or that you know that that’s not true and you just tried to pull a fast one on me. the most he ever averaged for NY was also 6

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:44 PM MST up reply actions  

k, im in response to muItipIe ppl the 7 was from Iast season when he was on the nuggets.

aIso get off gaIIos d1ck, i have my opinion, gaIIos an abov avg pIayer with potentiaI, i dont see as much offensive potentiaI in him as you do.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

people are entitled to have there opinions

EXCEPT when they don’t actually know anything about the subject they somehow have an opinion. if you wanna talk shit, know your shit

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

no, you can't have an opinion because

the basis of this opinion of yours in exactly 1 game in which Gallo was getting hacked like a tree branch and not getting the calls thanks to Ron Garretson. You don’t know any of his stats, never saw him play in NY, and as has been established below you haven’t watched any Nuggets games this season except for the last one. Its not what your opinion is its that you have nothing to back it up

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 10:00 PM MST up reply actions  

ok, i dont foIIow him cIoseIy, but as a nuggets foIIower in the pIayoffs Iast season he didnt show up.

some of that has to do with karI, and a Iot of this season has been against bad teams, which this team has won against easiIy. where was he in portIand, why didnt he make an easy Iayup at Ia, why didnt he step up and score when we couId have used some offense against the j1zz.

i watch his moves, and it doesnt make feeI Iike he couId be a top scorer in this Ieague.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 10:08 PM MST up reply actions  

actually he shot higher percentages

and played terrific D when they put him on Durant. The fault lies with GK and the offense because his FG attempts dropped from 12 per game to 8 in the playoffs. Oh yeah and 17 in the second half to salvage the series in game 4 when THEY FINALLY GAVE HIM THE FUCKING BALL isn’t bad either. oh yeah and how did your boy JR do in that series? game winning airball anyone?

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 10:11 PM MST up reply actions  

he grew up a point guard

and almost entered the ‘07 draft as a point guard. If you’ve never seen him make a one-on-one move then you’ve never seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnO6pIb27H8

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 8:57 PM MST up reply actions  

i have seen a Iot scrubs bIow by Iebron, what is your point?

the move itseIf is meh, what makes it stand out is that he’s 6 ‘10 with some buIk so it’s hard to get back to chaIIenge it when he gets by you.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:07 PM MST up reply actions  

yea because i dont agree.

marion when he was in phx was an eIite pIayer top 20 you could say. i dont see why you guys get insuIted when i compared the 2, when gaIIo so far has not accompIished much.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:11 PM MST up reply actions  

the comparison to marion is not offensive (wrong though it may be)

its the fact that you said: “probIem is gaIIo cant shoot or get his own shot, he’s got very IittIe 1 on 1 moves, and has meh handIes, his offensive abiIity is simiIar to marion, imo with more fIopping.”

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Iet me cIear then, gaIIo is not a consistent shooter, if he gets on a roII he can make them.

he does have meh handIes, it’s his size that makes him effective when he goes to the rim. and yea marion may not Iook pretty when he scores, but he’s effective, and at Ieast marion has post moves.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:23 PM MST up reply actions  

marion is more of a SF/PF and therefoe should have more of a post game

whereas he could never take anyone off the dribble at any point in his career like Gallo can. Gallo has terrific handles for a 6’10" guy and above average handles for any player period:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0idVvdt3ZU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GubAdifTg&feature=related
blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyVdbyv4Y8o

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:31 PM MST up reply actions  

yea, you dont watch too many games, marion cant take anyone off the dribbIe?

get off gaIIos d1ck, and reaIize he’II be Iucky to be a top 20 pIayer in the nba.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:35 PM MST up reply actions  

THATS NOT THE SAME AS TAKING SOME ONE OFF THE DRIBBLE

heres what you just said: “yea, you dont watch too many games, marion cant take anyone off the dribbIe?”

notice the word “dribble” and the word slash nowhere to be seen

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:52 PM MST up reply actions  

he does the same things you say gaIIo does.

get to the rim, if it’s not there make a pivot and shoot a jump shot or a hook shot. aIthough i have not seen gaIIo adjust much when going to the rim, he either gets fouIed, or Iooks ridicuIous fIopping wiIdy and the baII gets away from him.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:56 PM MST up reply actions  

gallo doesn't take hook shots

and actually has a decent post game. once again you saw 1 game

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 10:02 PM MST up reply actions  

ok now you are just making stuff up.

get off gaIIos d1ck. i didnt say he sucks, just that he’s not very poIished offensiveIy and Iacks one on one moves.

it’s sad how defensive you are about gaIIo, idc anymore. you are right gaIIo is goin to chaIIenge kd and Iebron for mvps and Iead this team to titIes.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

no and no

your sarcasm was a pathetic attempt to change the subject. You don’t know shit about this guy and you go around talking shit about him like you’ve been watching him play since he was a fucking toddler. I know about him, I’ve watched him in Milan, New York, and Denver and I actually know what I’m talking about and have used videos and stats to back it up

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

exactly

he’s 6’10" with some bulk, a sweet stroke from 3 and a knack for getting to the line

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 9:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh yea

He needs a cross over two step for those long 2 point fade aways like your boy J.R Smith right? Dirk has no “go to” moves, whatever the hell that means exactly. He herks and jerks to the rim, and either lays it up or stops, pivots and does a 10 foot fadeaway shot.

His stroke is WAY better than Marion, he can shoot the three pointer, the jump shot, and he can get to the rim. That is versatile scoring.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 30, 2012 9:30 PM MST up reply actions  

You just made me laugh

thinking about Marion’s horrific shooting form! Haha

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by love4nuggets on Jan 30, 2012 9:36 PM MST up reply actions  

marions shot is not pretty Iike gaIIos but it works for him.

if you dont agree that he’s a streak shooter, then you dont watch games.

you point out jr and dirk, and yea they have those moves and they work for them. you make it seem Iike they dont practice any of those things, and dont have any controI in what they are doing on those moves. when they are very comfortabIe in taking those shots, because they know they can them.

skita has a pretty nice strok too, he can shoot the 3. affIaIo can shoot the 3, get to the rim he’s versatiIe why isnt he out there. brewer can shoot the 3 get to the rim why isnt he out there, chandIer can shoot and get to the rim, why not him.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Because

Afflalo is not a good dribbler. Gallo is 6’10 and is a good dribbler to the basket. He is as tall as a center but can drive really well. So he has the ability to not be blocked, he can pivot like Dirk and take that jump shot. He is athletically gifted to have that tall frame, shooting touch and athletic ability. He is also a good dribbler. That is why he is touted as a go-to man, because of his versatile and unique physicality. He is also more of a pass first forward when he drives and is less prone to throw up a bad shot like J.R Smith might.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 30, 2012 9:44 PM MST up reply actions  

oh so now we can agree affIaIos not a decent dribbIer.

he can drive to the rim Iike kd can, but doesnt have the offensive skiII set to adjust if it doesnt work.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

CHANDLER ISN'T ON THE TEAM

YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT WATCH THE NUGGETS

by 5baker5 on Jan 30, 2012 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Yup, for someone who supposedly "watches"

The nuggets you really know alot about them…Afflalo? he can’t drive nearly as well as gallo… not to mention he has struggled all season so why would i want the ball in his hands?Brewer? hes so erratic with the ball.. he hasn’t drove ONCE this year.. and chandler? i thought he was in china? guess not

by 5baker5 on Jan 30, 2012 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

wow way to take things too IiteraI.

guess we shouIdnt have put so much money in to affIaIo huh.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

yea but a Iot of ppl made it seem Iike it was imparetive we re upped affIaIo.

and he was goin to be a great buiIding bIock for the team, now they want to repIace him with fernandez.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 10:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes he is a building block

Hes just having a rough start obviously.. he just wasnt worth 43 mil

by 5baker5 on Jan 30, 2012 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Before you come onto a sports blog and try to compare a rising star to a scrub… It’s best to actually know what your talking about rather than just post random things that make you look like a complete idiot… marion compared to gallo? outta your mind

by 5baker5 on Jan 30, 2012 10:05 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

you don’t have any stats, you haven’t seen Gallo play more than one game, and you haven’t watched the Nuggets this year

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 10:07 PM MST up reply actions  

and what are your stats.

from what i have seen of gaIIo, it does not make me feeI Iike he can be a top scorer in the Ieague.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 10:11 PM MST up reply actions  

look at his efficiency stats

and realize the only reason he doesn’t put up 30 a game is that he only shoots about 1/2 as much as those 30 a game scorers

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 10:12 PM MST up reply actions  

and you know this... how?

watch him play more than once and look at his efficiency stats again. Until he starts taking 23 shots a game you have know way of knowing that

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 10:17 PM MST up reply actions  

once again

you saw him play ONCE

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

you are cIueIess.

you are right, i shouIdnt compare marion to gaIIo, marions accompIished much more and showed much more potentiaI earIy.

by Rys on Jan 30, 2012 10:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Er, lets look up stats

Marion was drafted when he was 21 years old, Gallo when he was 18 I believe, so you can’t get a real accurate side-by side comparison.

When Marion was 23 he posted up 17.3 points, 81% free throw percentage, 48% FG, 10.7 RPG. He only attempted 1 3 pointer a game though at 25% during his second year.

Gallo is posting 17.9 a game, 5.3 rebounds, 88% Free throw percentage and attempts 4.5 3 pointers a game. Gallo also has 2.8 assists a game to Marions 2.0 when he was 23 years old.

Marion also played 2 minutes more a game than Gallo.

They both scored a similar amount when they were/are 23 years old but Gallo scores differently than Marion did.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 30, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Marion actually averaged 19 and 10

as a 23-year old (the 17.3 was as a 22 year old) but it doesn’t mean shit because he took 17 FGA’s a game

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

yup

can’t forget either that marion had the benefit of playing with STEVE FUCKING NASH IN HIS PRIME

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Jan 30, 2012 10:33 PM MST up reply actions  

idk about that, i watched marion come up, and put up some huge games.

which you wouIdnt figure he be abIe to do, because ppl regard him a particuIar way.

gaIIo’s taIIer, but doesnt have marions athIeticism, and defensive capabiIity, and aIso making pIays around the rim.

by Rys on Jan 31, 2012 1:08 AM MST up reply actions  

ESPEN having a PG list.

Lawson ain’t there. Of course.

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 8:31 PM MST reply actions  

As long as we beat them on prime time, that’s fine.

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 9:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Well.. if they stay hot from 3

No is going to beat them… but…. as they say live by the 3….

Die by the 3. Use them all up against the Thunder….

by djyoung71 on Jan 30, 2012 9:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey. If anyone was watching SportsCenter tonight

they showed Griffin dunking over Perkins, and I swear the announcer said that Griffin just “Mozgov’d” Perkins. I rewound it like 10 times.

Did anyone else hear or see that?

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 11:02 PM MST reply actions  

Yeup the did say he was Mozgov'd..

I don’t understand this reference…Can you guys help me out?

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 11:04 PM MST up reply actions  

x

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 11:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh....

I have a question. How is that not a foul on Griffin? Seriously.

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 11:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Because Mozgov was a Kia last year.

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 11:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Plus Moz tried to foul him first.

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 11:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Heh. But I am asking.

a serious question. Many of the dunks they showed Griffin doing in their montage showed him grabbing players around the head or shoulders. Why isn’t that a foul?

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 11:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Because they tried to foul him first.

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 11:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know if you are being snarky or serious

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 11:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I mean it's either a charge or a blocking foul right?

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 11:36 PM MST up reply actions  

It was like with Vince.

You try to foul him in the air, he makes a poster out of you. It’s fair game.

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 11:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm sorry. But I'm not understanding

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 11:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Moz tried to foul but Griffin was already in the air to throw down. So no foul there. When two players are in the air and one jumps higher than you. No foul, it’s fair game.

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 11:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Just like when it was Vince and Dominique dunking.

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 11:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh I see. Thanks for clarifying

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by SDcat09 on Jan 30, 2012 11:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Although in Mozgov's case.

He’s 7’1 so he couldn’t jump.

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 11:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Both.

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by Kevin L on Jan 30, 2012 11:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Hands down.

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by Kevin L on Jan 31, 2012 12:32 AM MST up reply actions  

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1. METTA WORLD PEACE

Metta resorted back to Ron Ron last Sunday by clubbing James Hardenwith an "inadvertent celebratory elbow", landing him a 7-game suspension. Apparently, changing his name didn't prevent NBA commissioner David Stern from overlooking Metta's past behavior problems.

2. CHARLOTTE BOBCATS

The 'Cats are on the verge of securing the worst winning percentage in NBA history. Given that the guy who runs the team - Michael Jordan - had previously drafted Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison, should this really be a shock?

3. OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER
The team that was supposedly built to overcome the lockout-shortened season managed to lose 7 of its last 14 games, ceding the Western Conference's 1-seed to the Spurs in the process. Their reward might be a first round matchup with defending champion Dallas.

4. BILLY HUNTER AND DEREK FISHER
With report after report coming out about NBPA union head Hunter's shady, nepotistic dealings and questions arising about Fisher's own role in dealing with NBA owners behind Hunter's back during the lockout, this off-the-court scandal could prove to be more exciting than the playoffs themselves!

5. STEVE NASH AND THE PHOENIX SUNS
The Suns are on this list for squandering the last few great seasons from Nash. Nash is on this list for his stupidly stubborn loyalty to a franchise as awful as the Suns.

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2010 INDUCTION CLASS

F - Raef LaFrentz
F - Mark Pope
C - Priest Lauderdale
G - DerMarr Johnson
G - Darnell Mee
L.A. - Bernie Bickerstaff

2009 INDUCTION CLASS

F - Bill Hanzlik
F - Ryan Bowen
C - Danny Schayes
G - Julius Hodge
G - Junior Harrington

2008 INDUCTION CLASS

F - Nikoloz Tskitishvili
F - Joe Wolf
F - Tony Battie
C - Scott Hastings
G - Tariq Abdul-Wahad
G - Mark Macon


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