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Heat vs. Nuggets recap: Nuggets serve notice to the NBA...

Rocky and the Nuggets didn't need Jesus on their side to beat the Heat Friday night. Ty Lawson, Nene and Al Harrington were enough!

By beating the likely NBA champion Miami Heat on Friday night, the Nuggets showed the entire NBA that playing at the Pepsi Center is going to be no easy task this season.

Star-divide

First off, pardon my tardiness on this recap. I had a post-game commitment that ran late but wanted to be sure my fellow Stiffs could discuss last night's great game when waking up this morning. And as a I texted to my esteemed colleague Nate Timmons after the game, I may not write lengthy recaps but I always deliver W's for our Nuggets!

Unless you're (oddly) the New Orleans Hornets, the other 28 teams that currently comprise the National Basketball Association should be deathly afraid of playing in Denver this season. With the exception of that Hornets debacle on Monday, the Nuggets have scored at least 110 points per home game when having a full day off in advance and have home victory margins in those games of 17, 27, 8 (and it wasn't nearly that close) and 13.

But in spite of the Nuggets home prowess when given some rest, the would-be champion Heat ostensibly had all the makings of a solid road victory entering last night's contest. Yes, they were playing the fifth game of a road trip but c'mon ... they had had a full day off before the game, had presumably dropped the only two games in a row that they will drop all season and had their full complementary of players - minus Eddy Curry of course - and LeBron James was going to prove that he could come through in a clutch situation. He even Tweeted about it beforehand.

Well, "The King" never had the opportunity to showcase his crunch-time skills because our Nuggets erupted on his Heat with 31 fourth-quarter points and controlled the energy of the game even before Dwyane Wade went down with a nasty ankle sprain around the seven-minute mark in the final period. In fact, the Nuggets held the Heat to 81 points until the 8:49 mark in the fourth quarter.

Watching the game on television, it probably looked like the Nuggets won this game by finally breaking out of their three-point shooting funk (the Nuggets were red hot from behind the arc, making a shocking 48% of their three's on 25 attempts) and dishing out more assists (26 to 19) than their opponent. But having watched the game in person, I can tell you that the Heat were simply gassed. Including the ever fit James, who was settling for jump shots early and essentially went through the motions in the fourth quarter chucking long-range jumpers whenever he felt it was convenient to do so. Heat head coach Erik Spoelstra knew it, too, hence why he yanked James for James Jones with two minutes left even though the Heat - in theory - were still within earshot of a competitive finish.

Maybe the Heat should just stick with beating up on their weak Eastern Conference sisters and avoid playing against Western Conference teams altogether.

But last night's victory was more about Denver's coming out party than Miami's third straight loss. With few exceptions, it seemed like many Nugget players had their "awakening" last night, including center Timofey Mozgov who finally looked energetic and comfortable and it showed with 12 points, eight rebounds, three blocks and previously unseen friskiness that we need from the Big Moz for the remainder of the season.

Also joining in on the awakening was backup shooting guard Rudy Fernandez, who is - at last - setting his feet and squaring his shoulders when he shoots and nailed half of this three-point attempts en route to 15 points off the bench.

And the Nuggets three main staples this season - Nene, Ty Lawson and Al Harrington - were absolute studs yet again on Friday night. I don't know how many of my fellow Stiffs have had the opportunity to see Nene play in person yet or not this season, but he looks terrific physically and it seems as though he hands have gotten better. Perhaps his veteran brain has finally caught up with his body as he just seems to know where that ball is bouncing and pounces on it.

(The only disappointing performance from the Nuggets side was Danilo Gallinari who still appears to get the yips on wide open layups.)

As a ticket-paying fan, it was nice to see a fair fight on Friday night. All too often I feel like the games I attend feature a team coming into Denver on a back-to-back, are missing a key player or both. At last, we got to witness an opposing team that was ready to play and simply couldn't handle the onslaught that has become the Denver Nuggets at Pepsi Center.

And the rest of the NBA got to witness it, too.

Non-Stiff of the Game

Ty Lawson: 9-11 shooting, nine assists, two steals, a +/- of +16. Are you kidding me?! Lawson is now averaging over 17 points, six assists and almost two steals per game while shooting 52% from the field and 84% from the charity stripe. When Nuggets coach George Karl told me a while back that Lawson has All-Star potential, I didn't believe him. I do now.

Stiff of the Game

Chris Bosh: While James at least attempted to keep the Heat engaged in the game, Bosh disappeared. Bosh missed over half his shots and got eaten alive by Nene. If Wade is indeed hurt badly, Bosh will need to step it up before the Heat lose their fourth-straight game.

Parting Shot

The Nuggets have one more home game - vs. Utah on Sunday night - before hitting the road for four straight heading east (including at New York next Saturday and we'll be watching the game together at Jake's for our annual Stiffs Night Out). The Nuggets have proven that they can sweep teams off the floor at home, now let's see if that momentum can be carried on the road with them.

Go Nuggets!

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Nice recap, Andrew.

One thing I would change would be to replace Gallo with ‘Dre in the disappointment category. His energy and effort last night appeared (at least to my televised watching eyes) very low. I think part of Gallo’s problem stemmed from the ankle, and thus not being quite as explosive. In the first quarter, Gallo was key.

by Russscot on Jan 14, 2012 9:01 AM MST reply actions  

ya Dre was invisible.

I thought Gallo played good defense on LeBron. Sure, LeBron scored a lot of points, but he had only 4 shots at the rim and took 9 long 2s. Of course a lot of that was just LeBron being passive. But I thought Gallo did a decent job without needing a lot of help.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 9:09 AM MST up reply actions  

I think Brewer

played very good defense when he was in there. He gave Wade fits and made him work to get his shot off. Afflalo, in his limited minutes actually played good defense against Lebron and Wade, which is quite the load, but he did an admirable job. Which puzzles me why he played Andre MIller over Afflalo in the 2nd half because Afflalo had a better overall game. Miller looked disinterested the entire game.

However saying this, Miller has played very well this season and I hope he does not take this tiny situation and blow it out of proportion. Is our general manager a genius? Maybe so, because Felton is shooting 34% for Portland this year and is stinking up the joint this year for Portland.

"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"

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by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 9:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Well, Miller has been a better player than Felton throughout their careers. Turning one year of a guy into one year of an upgrade at the same position and a draft pick is pretty sweet.

Brewer’s activity is great. All those bench guys bring something a little different, I think there will always be questions as to whether Karl is playing the correct amounts of Brewer/Miller/Rudy/Afflalo and in the correct situations, but overall it’s a good problem to have.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

I like Miller

And even with his recent comments to the media, I think he should get his minutes.

He should not, however, be closing out games over AAA, period.

That bothered me last night.

"Rollin' in the club / HAPPY MEAL"

by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice sarcasm Andrew

Miami isn’t going to win a championship this year, they are not going to win anything until they trade Bosh, who is a .75 cent player and trade him for two 50 cent players and free up their cap space and get some depth on their team. They are not equipped to win against teams that play decent zone defense. Not to mention all of their nagging injuries they are gathering now will not serve them well later.

I think you confuse Lebron with Kobe Andrew, as if the Lakers had lost those two previous games before, you know Kobe would come in and make this game close and even possibly win because when Kobe is mad, he is better but when Lebron has to face adversity, he cowers into a corner. I was not shocked at the results last night and you are largely over estimating the Heat Andrew. Me and ThrowItDownBigMan both agree that this team is significantly worse than their finals team they had last year.

"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"

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by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 9:11 AM MST reply actions  

He is still in his prime

but he will go downhill fast at the age of 32, that is the age where basketball player’s drop dramatically.

Seriously though, if they think they are going to get eight championships together, well.. they can dream that all they’d like.

"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"

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by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 9:19 AM MST up reply actions  

he might go downhill quicker

if he doesn’t stop getting hurt once a week.

by roxintober on Jan 14, 2012 9:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh crap.

I’m going to be 32 on tuesday. Does this mean my NBA dreams are dead in the water???

"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss. But currently slumming in a high-level management position.

by love4nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Whew! Thank you.

Just found out I have the same Bday as D Wade, but 2 years earlier. Maybe that’s a good sign?

"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss. But currently slumming in a high-level management position.

by love4nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey CB...is Al Harrington

Playing well enough now for you to eat the article bashing him?
You have to admit he is now a 6th man of the year candidate, and a key member of the team. No longer and amnesty candidate unlike the Bird who looks like he will still decline this year and was bad last year.

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 9:22 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

He is playing good...

if his pace is similar to what it has been, even if I expect it to lower out over the course of the season due to the law of averages, but so far, I am dreading the idea of having to stuff my face with paper and ketchup…

"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"

Denverstiffs- home of the most bipolar fan base on the internet

by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

A man of his word...I like it.

To be honest, I thought Al was going to be better than last season, but not this much better.
Definitely a pleasant surprise!

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 9:33 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Me too. Does crow taste good with ketchup?

"When I played, this is how I liked to play," Karl said. "It’s a combination of North Carolina, Phoenix Suns, Doug Moe. There is a commitment to running all the time."
Smith's mistakes throughout the series have bothered Karl. "And then, of course the one with eight seconds to go, from 50 feet," Karl said. "I just love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."

by Plea for Intelligence on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Harrington is a Goomba

"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"

Denverstiffs- home of the most bipolar fan base on the internet

by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

I thought the Stiffs were in agreement that he's a ninja turtle?

Collect only two trillion Stiff points and you too can unlock the secret of George Karl's rotations with the official George Karl Random Basketball Decoder Ring! Huzzah!

by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 14, 2012 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Certainly this year.

He’s one bad dude, and I’m loving it.

"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss. But currently slumming in a high-level management position.

by love4nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Was it Michaelangelo that had the nunchucks?

Because I’ve been calling him “Nunchucks” this season.

"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss. But currently slumming in a high-level management position.

by love4nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Leonardo had blue, like the Nuggets

And he was the leader, where I see Al providing some vet leadership.

Ok, that was weird that I put analysis into that…

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by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 14, 2012 2:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Raphael

For sure.

"Rollin' in the club / HAPPY MEAL"

by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Well that narrows it down! Good work, gents!

"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss. But currently slumming in a high-level management position.

by love4nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 3:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Wait, JR, what about me?

I also believed that Al was as good as a left over tv dinner

Look its not our fault that, for whatever reason, one year you play like yuch and next year you play great. What are we to think.

Problem with Al is that when he’s not shooting well, he doesnt usually compensate in any way whatsoever. When AAA or Gallo arent shooting well they could still chip in in various ways.

by sgiustra on Jan 14, 2012 9:52 AM MST up reply actions  

he reffered to me

because I said I would publicly go on youtube, take the hate fanpost I made of him last year and eat it for all of you Stiffs to enjoy.

"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"

Denverstiffs- home of the most bipolar fan base on the internet

by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 9:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Like.. this guy

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Joakim-Noah-critic-eats-his-words-literally?urn=nba-201747

"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"

Denverstiffs- home of the most bipolar fan base on the internet

by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

lol sorry

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 10:00 AM MST up reply actions  

You can still print out web pages

The craziest thing!

Also: Cloudy, make sure you use a soy-based ink.

"Rollin' in the club / HAPPY MEAL"

by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Why is this comment not green yet?

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by SDcat09 on Jan 14, 2012 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Its something called

a printer, yea I know… highly technological stuff.

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Denverstiffs- home of the most bipolar fan base on the internet

by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 7:57 PM MST up reply actions  

thats some funny crap right there

Oh, in answer to your question re eating the internet, shouldnt you just ask Al Gore how to eat the internet?

BTW, unrelated but handy→ the chicken came before the egg

by sgiustra on Jan 15, 2012 12:13 PM MST up reply actions  

stuff

i liked seeing all you morons standing up waiting for the first points. who the fuck decided that denver fans should do that? it is an okc thing. let them have it.

speaking of okc, if we beat them 2 out of 3 games can we make it to the finals? please???

mozgov’s contribution was far greater than his numbers.

miller wants to start? really??

i think tebow should thank god that he can thank god while he is thanking god for thanking god

by spokenwar on Jan 14, 2012 9:23 AM MST reply actions  

they've been standing for the first points

longer than OKC has been a franchise.

just so you know.

by roxintober on Jan 14, 2012 9:26 AM MST up reply actions  

well...

can we give it to them? i think they should have it

by spokenwar on Jan 14, 2012 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Pretty arbitrary to me, too.

I think a lot of teams do it. Not sure if it deserves the insults, though. I love my fellow Nugget fans and wish the team got more attention in this town.

"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss. But currently slumming in a high-level management position.

by love4nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 9:30 AM MST up reply actions  

I think your right

that several teams do it. Has anyone noticed the sound effects they play at the games? Is it just me, or does every team use the same set of effects at every stadium?

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 9:33 AM MST up reply actions  

I miss the tees for 3s...Digourno

But the Nuggets make too many now. In the past when Buckner was are starting shooting guard it was a good business plan.

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 9:42 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Err I mean our

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 9:43 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

we stand up until first points at my local pro bball games

and thats in new zealand! don’t know where we stole it from

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by Nz Nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 4:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I always though and now i'm sure

Wade is that team. James goes out for any length of time in game or miss games as a whole and wade carries on. Wade goes out james tries and fails. again and again. I love it. I love that Ty went off on ESPN. That may give him an All-Star bid. Brewer showed he is a Sane JR that can play D. Once Gallo can learn how to do a layup we will be set. I can’t say enough about Mosgov.

by TopherYork on Jan 14, 2012 9:24 AM MST reply actions  

The thing about Mozgov

is I think that facing off against all those really good centers at the start of the year like Bynum, Bogut, Cousins, Okafor, and Duncan really set him up for this game. He played and got a lot of experience against good front courts and when he finally met a team who’s front-court is worse than ours, he delivered, we can really thank the schedule for that, because Mozgov got a lot of experience getting his ass handed to him by opposing centers at the start of the year, but you can’t learn until you play the best, and you could tell he was very confident last night.

"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"

Denverstiffs- home of the most bipolar fan base on the internet

by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 9:31 AM MST up reply actions  

He's got a hook shot and a nice jumper

He showed it in SA too before GK pulled him out.
Moz will be fine, he is learning slowly, but he should be our starting center of the future and a good front court mate of Nene’s.
If he blocks well like he did yesterday…watch out.
As Scott says once he realizes he is big, it’s not out of the question to think he is a Marc Gasol kind of player.
Did I mention Ujiri is a magnificent bastard just robbing the Knicks blindly!!

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 9:39 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

So why didn't he get more than 24 minutes?

Moz/Nene lineup was eating the Heat up yet the only time we saw them was in the first quarter. Another head-shaker. GK glued to that small ball. I’m a GK supporter but not unequivocally. I realize Moz still has to prove he’s not a right-handed version of Priest Lauderdale. Still…what an enjoyable evening of watching basketball. The slight hangover is worth it. Glad I didn’t go to the GF’s house last night; I would have kept her up with hootin’ and hollern and a lot of “F… Y… you all stars!!!”

Rudy is really impressing with his all around game and court savvy. He could easily just come in, look for his shot and cash his game check. But he’s trying to help this team win with a good floor game, effort on defense and excellent passing. Props Rudy. Unleash the Bounce George!

"When I played, this is how I liked to play," Karl said. "It’s a combination of North Carolina, Phoenix Suns, Doug Moe. There is a commitment to running all the time."
Smith's mistakes throughout the series have bothered Karl. "And then, of course the one with eight seconds to go, from 50 feet," Karl said. "I just love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."

by Plea for Intelligence on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 AM MST up reply actions  

My guess would be fatigue

He averages 16 minutes a game on the season. Play him 30 last night at that pace and he is gassed, as LBJ clearly was. Even on TV you could see him coasting.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Which is why

you can’t compare these games to playoff games. Still, if you and I made even a tenth of what these dudes make, we’d torture ourselves for 48 minutes.

"When I played, this is how I liked to play," Karl said. "It’s a combination of North Carolina, Phoenix Suns, Doug Moe. There is a commitment to running all the time."
Smith's mistakes throughout the series have bothered Karl. "And then, of course the one with eight seconds to go, from 50 feet," Karl said. "I just love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."

by Plea for Intelligence on Jan 14, 2012 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

That's easy to say from our couches

I’ve played enough sports and enough basketball to know that the 48 minute thing is simply impossible. These are grown men. I’ve gotten myself gassed in games at a time that I could run for miles at the drop of a hat.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 10:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Did I see a GK compliment from you?

I can’t believe it.

"When I played, this is how I liked to play," Karl said. "It’s a combination of North Carolina, Phoenix Suns, Doug Moe. There is a commitment to running all the time."
Smith's mistakes throughout the series have bothered Karl. "And then, of course the one with eight seconds to go, from 50 feet," Karl said. "I just love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."

by Plea for Intelligence on Jan 14, 2012 10:09 AM MST up reply actions  

I try to give credit when credit is due

a bitter man might point out that seeing Karl as active and engaged as he was last night only makes the nights where he sits on the bench with his head in his hands doing nothing all the more frustrating.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

I knew you couldn't resist

"When I played, this is how I liked to play," Karl said. "It’s a combination of North Carolina, Phoenix Suns, Doug Moe. There is a commitment to running all the time."
Smith's mistakes throughout the series have bothered Karl. "And then, of course the one with eight seconds to go, from 50 feet," Karl said. "I just love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."

by Plea for Intelligence on Jan 14, 2012 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

But he's inarguably correct.

"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss. But currently slumming in a high-level management position.

by love4nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 12:14 PM MST up reply actions  

well supposedly coach said there were only 10 games a season

That were more important than the rest, apparently george is only active during those 10 games, last night being 1 of them.

by InboundingLobPass on Jan 14, 2012 2:02 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Sounds about right

Just like my Nuggets fan pack of tickets only includes 10 games.

"Rollin' in the club / HAPPY MEAL"

by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 2:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Afflalo

He wasn’t very noticeable, but it looked like he was finally comfortable with his three point stroke and he wasn’t afraid to attack the rim. This is definitely good to see from AAA as he is a major piece to the team going forward.

by Dr. Jre on Jan 14, 2012 9:25 AM MST reply actions  

He was noticeable if you pay attention to defense

Had him on Wade and James the whole night. Spent all his energy there.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 9:30 AM MST up reply actions  

What a game

best game of the year, by far. Perhaps the best game since the WCF. G.K. was up and active early. He actually got a technical. I don’t care that Bird and KK got no minutes. I don’t care that he played Miller at PF. I was so excited that I ran out of forwarding on my TIVO before halftime and had to live with commercials.

Oh, and

MMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOZZZZZZZZZZGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 9:28 AM MST reply actions  

I am happy Karl didn't play the Bird

Don’t play guys who don’t deserve minutes even if they are veterans.

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by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 9:40 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Bird has no trade value

I have no idea what we are going to do with him..

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by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Possibly trade to Clips

For second round picks. Ujiri will get something for the Bird.
He has a way of scamming people if you haven’t noticed already.

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by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

good call

clips have literally 2 bigs on the roster. they could use any bench player they can get their hands on

by TyLawesome on Jan 14, 2012 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

I was rooting for KK over Bird

but I wanted him to keep the lineup big, the lineup that got the 13 point lead in the first quarter. I was pissed and yelling at the TV quite a lot in the second quarter. Karl’s strategy paid dividends in the second half, so he gets the credit today. I still maintain they would have won 145 – 36 if they had stayed big and played zone.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 AM MST up reply actions  

I got some champagne for a toast, Throw

Agreed, the Heat game showed why it’s fun to be a Stiff. Chicago will pass them in the power ratings. But don’t think they’re going away or anything. Nene lay of the refs; it ain’t helping you. Glad we don’t have a head case such as Bosh on our team.

"When I played, this is how I liked to play," Karl said. "It’s a combination of North Carolina, Phoenix Suns, Doug Moe. There is a commitment to running all the time."
Smith's mistakes throughout the series have bothered Karl. "And then, of course the one with eight seconds to go, from 50 feet," Karl said. "I just love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."

by Plea for Intelligence on Jan 14, 2012 9:52 AM MST up reply actions  

I saw Nene touch a ref on the chest after calling him for a foul

He was smiling and nodding like he’d been caught justifiably. But I thought players weren’t allowed to touch refs AT ALL>EVER?

by InboundingLobPass on Jan 14, 2012 2:08 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Lucky Nene stopped short of headbutting him

Collect only two trillion Stiff points and you too can unlock the secret of George Karl's rotations with the official George Karl Random Basketball Decoder Ring! Huzzah!

by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 14, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Lord knows

I wouldn’t have had that restraint.

"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss. But currently slumming in a high-level management position.

by love4nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 2:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Great game!

Nice recap. I am horse from yelling all game.

Moz really shut me up. I have been tough on him and he played awesome.

The Heat were only in the game because the refs gifted them call after call in the first. LePout complains after every play. I can see why he gets easily flustered in the 4th quarters.

Good job Nugs!

by Pusherman on Jan 14, 2012 9:38 AM MST reply actions  

Unfortunately I missed the game :(

Anyone know where I can rewatch it?

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by chantech on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 AM MST reply actions  

espn3?

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Is Altitude showing the replay today?

Usually they do the replay around 10:30 MST on the weekdays, I’m not sure if it’s applies on Saturdays

Atheist for Tim Tebow!

by CombatChuk on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 AM MST up reply actions  

That sucks dude

Full playoff game atmosphere from the opening tip. People who saw it in person are very lucky. No Tivo?

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

No Tivo :(

We probably would have just walked down and gotten scalped tickets but I had another event last night.

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by chantech on Jan 14, 2012 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Believe me

Tivo is worth the money. Once you get it, you won’t ever go back. It’s torture to go to the in-laws and watch a game live, no rewinding for replays, watching all the commercials.

Can we expect your system to be running anytime soon?

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 10:02 AM MST up reply actions  

I have it at my house

But I stay at my GFs in the city most of the time and she doesn’t have a Tivo…well I guess she was supposed to get one but they ran out of one when they installed the cable.

League pass is also broken as the archived games don’t allow you to view your home team for some reason. I guess I’m going to have to buy a synergy account again.

As far as the system, we’ve been mining all year and we finally feel good about the sample sizes – hopefully we’ll have something to contribute soon.

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by chantech on Jan 14, 2012 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

If I moved back to Denver

I would live right downtown. So much happening down there all the time that you miss out on living further out.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

not that 3 pointers won the game

but tonight was the perfect example of why you keep shooting them, and why a team should always value at rim shots and 3 pointers over anything else. Heat were hitting their jumpers as well, but they took 21 long 2s (Nuggets only 16). Nuggets were better in other areas as well, but forcing non-paint 2s and shooting at rim shots and 3 pointers will win you basketball games.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 AM MST reply actions  

ESPN's "Heat Check" review of the game
For their part, the Nuggets were sensational as they played with confidence on their home floor and showed off their overall depth. They took apart the Heat’s defense, shooting 55 percent, and outran them all night.

It turned out to be a showcase game for emerging Denver star Ty Lawson, who had 24 points and nine assists. More than that, he completely controlled the tempo of the game in the second half as the Nuggets built a 19-point lead. With the Nuggets 8-4 and playing team-oriented and spirited basketball, there’s reason to think Lawson is constructing an All-Star case for himself.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 9:54 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

yeah Ty has a great shot at an all-star bid with Deron gone to the East and Manu out with a long term injury there are two more spots for Western guards. Gotta think Lawson and Lowry are top candidates.

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by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Lawson is shooting 52% from the field this year

that is insane for an undersized pointguard.

It was also fun to watch him match Lebron for strength on this play from last night…

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by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 10:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm not even sure 52% tells the whole story

he gets to the line and hits 3s too. His shot selection and finishing are awesome.

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by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 10:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Don't remind me

I’m trying to focus on the positives last night.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 10:07 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I loved how LBJ was guarding Ty in the 4th

Ty crossed him over, give him the okie doke and hit a 3

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by The U.N. Fab Five on Jan 14, 2012 10:07 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

changed to a 2

but still a freakin awesome play

by Mancar on Jan 14, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

video of Moz jam

"When I played, this is how I liked to play," Karl said. "It’s a combination of North Carolina, Phoenix Suns, Doug Moe. There is a commitment to running all the time."
Smith's mistakes throughout the series have bothered Karl. "And then, of course the one with eight seconds to go, from 50 feet," Karl said. "I just love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."

by Plea for Intelligence on Jan 14, 2012 9:59 AM MST reply actions  

multiple sources say Wilson leaving

That is more relevant to the Nuggets.

Rudy has replaced JR.

JR looks good in the picture.

by buffallo soldier on Jan 14, 2012 10:07 AM MST reply actions  

well played

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by SDcat09 on Jan 14, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

swish looks kinda old and skinny there

Bad training, nutrition will hamper his talents.

by InboundingLobPass on Jan 14, 2012 2:17 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I said this last night....you can tell that Gallo is still hurting on that ankle

They taped it up, and before the game he was complaining about how uncomfortable it was. I think that explains the biffed layup. He just didn’t have any lift (and if you guys remember the end of last season, Gallo needs his lift)

Good game. Nuggets proved alot to a national TV audience. That Hornets loss is a distant memory.

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 14, 2012 10:10 AM MST reply actions  

Thump those tall

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 10:30 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Thump those tall midgets known as the Utah Jazz

Then the NOH loss will be forgotten.
None of the Jazz’s wins have been impressive.
When I think Jazz, I think winner of the special olympics or they are as real as a pornstar’s chest.
I dont know why people are worried about them, they will be back in reality pretty soon.

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by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 10:32 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Wondering when Nugs will get the zone thrown at them

Miami already used to it:
Miami’s zone possessions
Date Opp. Poss. FGM FGA FG% TO Pts. OffRtg
12/27 vs. BOS 20 5 19 26.3% 3 10 50.0
1/2 vs. ATL 21 8 17 47.1% 3 21 100.0
1/4 vs. IND 5 2 7 28.6% 0 5 100.0
1/5 at ATL 2 2 2 100.0% 0 6 300.0
1/7 at NJN 15 8 13 61.5% 3 25 166.7
1/10 at GSW 12 3 9 33.3% 4 6 50.0
TOTALS 75 28 67 41.8% 13 73 97.3

OffRtg = Points scored per 100 possessions

"When I played, this is how I liked to play," Karl said. "It’s a combination of North Carolina, Phoenix Suns, Doug Moe. There is a commitment to running all the time."
Smith's mistakes throughout the series have bothered Karl. "And then, of course the one with eight seconds to go, from 50 feet," Karl said. "I just love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."

by Plea for Intelligence on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 AM MST reply actions  

Nugs are a horrible team to zone against

they’ll just go with 4 shooters, put Nene on the elbow and swing it around until they either get an open layup or a wide open 3.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Yea, the zone weakness is the perimiter 3 pointers

It would be a bad strategy, UNLESS they were trying to contain Ty Lawson, which would work if the opposing point guard was too slow to guard him, I think the Lakers played a lot of zone against us and it was pretty effective.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 10:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Nuggs historically struggle against zone

Don’t have any statistics for this season.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 10:37 AM MST up reply actions  

My impression is that these Nuggets should be better at making the extra pass vs. a zone than the Melo/Chauncey version.

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by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

In addition to more sharing of the ball this year

Many of our new guys are also decent to great passers: Gallo, Rudy, Miller

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by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 14, 2012 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Nene is the best passing big man

He has great hands. Sometimes, though, he is too unselfish.

"Rollin' in the club / HAPPY MEAL"

by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 2:43 PM MST up reply actions  

For the Bird Haters

Birdman has the third highest PER on the team behind Brewer and Lawson. That’s right, the third best player on the team was DNP-CD last night!

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 10:39 AM MST reply actions  

Bird sucks

PER is notoriously bad at taking into account defense which were is where bird has been killing us.

by Frontrange on Jan 14, 2012 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

His PER is higher than Gallo's, Marc Gasol, and Westbrook

Are you saying he is better than those three? not to mention the others he is ranked higher than.

by Mancar on Jan 14, 2012 11:08 AM MST up reply actions  

LOL

Just throwing that out there to get you riled up.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Can't rec this enough.

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by love4nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I, for one, never berated Al or Bird.

I love them both and hope they both continue to improve this season. :)

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by SDcat09 on Jan 14, 2012 3:28 PM MST up reply actions  

This is true

And I’m guilty.

No one likes the piling on, but I think all we are doing is hoping Karl plays the best players. And, while I’ll always be a fan of Chris Anderson, he doesn’t deserve minutes in front of Brewer and Koufos.

But, yeah. We should be nicer about it. I guess.

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 3:29 PM MST up reply actions  

100% agree with this

I wish bird the best and hope he plays better. But so far this season he doesn’t look good enough to play for this team.

by Frontrange on Jan 14, 2012 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I love this part

and he is the goddam birdman.

So. There is to be no slagging Chris Anderson for playing sub-par basketball and biting at every single pump fake ever because he is the Birdman.

Gotcha.

"Rollin' in the club / HAPPY MEAL"

by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

BOOM and roasted

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by SDcat09 on Jan 14, 2012 3:54 PM MST up reply actions  

"Rollin' in the club / HAPPY MEAL"

by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 5:28 PM MST up reply actions  

It's one thing to correct about typos

But I do think it’s important to spell one’s name properly.

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by SDcat09 on Jan 14, 2012 5:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Did you Watch Big Al Last Season??

Many of use were on Big Al because the Nuggs signed him to a big contract and he was overweight and played awful most of last season. Sure, he may have been injured. But this forum is about giving opinions, and in the opinion of a lot of us who watched him last season, he was a major, major disappointment. (He has admitted as much, and I give him great credit for getting in shape over the summer and having a GREAT year this season thus far).

As for Bird, the opinion changes on him have occurred over the last 2+ seasons, where he has been hurt, has lost a step, and does not have the same lift. His whole game was built on his jumping ability, and he doesn’t have it anymore. It’s kinda sad, but the truth. I would prefer his minutes go to our young big men. . .Moz, KK, and Manimal.

by ACEIII on Jan 14, 2012 9:20 PM MST up reply actions  

After reading the game reports

I observe that almost all of them focus on what’s wrong with the Heat, drama, etc. Not about what’s working for Denver. They just got a beatdown from a decent team. LBJ was -16, Bosh was -17. TyLawsome was dominant. I was wondering if the Heat’s PG would be able to keep up with Ty because he’s pretty quick. NOT!

"When I played, this is how I liked to play," Karl said. "It’s a combination of North Carolina, Phoenix Suns, Doug Moe. There is a commitment to running all the time."
Smith's mistakes throughout the series have bothered Karl. "And then, of course the one with eight seconds to go, from 50 feet," Karl said. "I just love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."

by Plea for Intelligence on Jan 14, 2012 10:46 AM MST reply actions  

Even 2 time MVP LeBron James said

The Heat could not stop the Nuggets no matter what adjustments they made.
And yet ESPN neglects to mention that we are a dominant team.
Oh well that’s why I love the Nuggets.
Haters gonna hate!!

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 10:54 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

In regards to more coverage of a Heat loss than a Nuggets win

Haterz gonna hate; let them hate so long as they fear. In recent years, our team has played better with a chip on their shoulder.

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by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 14, 2012 1:57 PM MST up reply actions  

ESPN

Run-and-gun

“Simply put, the Nuggets beat the Heat at their own game. Trying to play a fast tempo in the Mile High City is always a dubious game plan, especially after coming off a back-to-back, but the Nuggets were far more potent in the open court. The Heat got hammered in fast-break points, which is not a recipe for success.”

"When I played, this is how I liked to play," Karl said. "It’s a combination of North Carolina, Phoenix Suns, Doug Moe. There is a commitment to running all the time."
Smith's mistakes throughout the series have bothered Karl. "And then, of course the one with eight seconds to go, from 50 feet," Karl said. "I just love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."

by Plea for Intelligence on Jan 14, 2012 10:48 AM MST reply actions  

The "core" of the Nuggets going forward will be Nene, Gallo, Ty, AAA

then maybe Moz….I’m starting to like Rudy more and more off the bench. Like Corey Brewer. love K2….Faried will eventually get minutes…

This team is rounding in to shape. It started with the Nene and AAA contracts and will continue with the Gallo extension and then Ty next year.

Good things folks…good things.

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 14, 2012 10:50 AM MST reply actions  

And Chandler?

What do they do with him? The reports are they are talking contract with him. Do the Nuggets want to tie up cap space with him?

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 10:53 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm of the opinion that Chandler is like Andre right now

both guys seem to have poor attitudes. The less poor attitudes the better so if they can deal him in the off season. Great.

I can’t get Chandlers disappearing act in the playoffs out of my head. More so was his blatant desire to be somewhere else. Why would that change now?

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 14, 2012 10:56 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm kinda hoping

that they trade him for a backup PF that Karl will play instead of Harrington, and move Al to backup 3.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

then what would you do

between Rudy and Brewer? They both have shown the ability to be the backup 2 and be effective.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 14, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd like Rudy to do some 3rd pg work with his passing ability (like J.R did last year)

Brewer can be a 2…lots of versatility there.

I think there’s a likely chance the Nuggets deal some of their depth at the deadline or in the offseason.

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 14, 2012 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed

I’d split the 96 minutes at Guard betweenn those 5 players.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

the logjam will sort of take care of itself

Miller is as good as gone, and my impression is that Rudy wants to go back to Spain after this year. So that creates a need to acquire a backup PG either through the draft, FA, or a trade of one of the remaining wings. It also should create some space for Jordan Hamilton should he be ready for NBA action in his second year.

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by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 12:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Pretty sure

that AC will be available.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah, I’d prefer to roll with a rookie to AC. Just find another Norris Cole/Charles Jenkins/Reggie Jackson, whatever.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

or go with Julyan Stone if he really is all that (I have my doubts).

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 12:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Don't discount Julyan Stone. Kid has looked pretty good in limited minutes.

I think he has backup duties here written all over him. His size is incredible at 6’7’’ and he looks to have pretty damn good court vision and the fact that he loves to distribute over shooting … perfect role for him here.

by Nate Timmons on Jan 14, 2012 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Imagine him anchoring a unit of athletic shooters:

Rudy at SG, Brewer at SF, Faried at PF and, um , I guess K2 anchoring the center spot.

So. That’s three athletic playmakers for Stone to pass to. K2 can collect rebounds and start the break.

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 1:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep.

Stone played just a handful of minutes against the Nets, but he made a couple unreal passes – one I don’t think Nene was ready for. Denver might have a nice little steal on their hands.

by Nate Timmons on Jan 14, 2012 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Al can’t defend NBA 3s though, he’s basically a pure 4 at this point.

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by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

He can't defend 4's

guys like Gasol and Okafor go on rebounding sprees against him.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 12:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Okafor is a center

and Al generally plays against backups, so not Gasol. Yeah, there are problems with small-ball, but putting Al at the 3 won’t solve them. You’ll just lose the extra floor spacing he gives you at the 4.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 12:14 PM MST up reply actions  

to be clear

small ball is a problem in a lot of situations, but if Karl’s going to go away from small ball that probably just means no Al. Use Brewer as your backup 3 to play with the new power forward.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Al did a good job on

Bogut and Duncan. In fact he was our best defender against bogut.

by Frontrange on Jan 14, 2012 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey about the backup PF

We got this energetic, defensive minded, shot blocking, high flying PF that resembles a Predator

Let's start a riot!
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by Army of Nugs on Jan 14, 2012 2:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I like others think signing Chandler is just to have more trade assets

But to answer your question, if he did come around, maybe it’s due to his experience overseas. Being stuck over there might have humbled him as to how lucky he is to have an opportunity to play in the NBA. What other teams currently have the money and need for him in the NBA? If he wants NYC as he said before, he has to realize by now that ship has sailed. I’m not holding my breath that his attitude changed, however.

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by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 14, 2012 2:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I think Chandler will be a trade asset

Or if he is willing to come off the bench…then we really will have too much talent and a lot of angry players.
In Ujiri we trust is all I can say. The Chandler thing is really befuddling me.

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by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 10:56 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

when ill will returns

how does everyone see him fitting into the rotation? who’s minutes does he take? will miller be gone by then?

by swmrkev on Jan 14, 2012 11:32 AM MST reply actions  

Miller will be here till his contract runs up

No rush to trade him. He has to prove himself to get a starting job/ get a contract on another team, so he will come to play.

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by JR15 on Jan 14, 2012 11:50 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd say he knocks Brewer out of the rotation

and gets a few of Miller and Rudy’s minutes as well. But the Nuggets should probably consider packaging one of those guys with a prospect (Hamilton?) for an upgrade at center.

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by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Man that would suck.

I’d take Brewer over Chandler any day.

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by love4nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 12:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I’d take the Brewer of these first games over Chandler, the first 5 years of his career, not so much.

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by atomiccafe on Jan 14, 2012 12:48 PM MST up reply actions  

didn't want to make a big deal out of the whole Miller comments from other night

but watching his demeanor coming off the court yesterday makes you wonder. plus, with Ty having such a huge game last night coming off a sprained foot in front of a ESPN audience, doesn’t bode well for Miller “proving” he should be getting more minutes or be starting for this team when Ty is healthy. This whole team is geared to running, finding the open man, and getting everyone involved. As much as I love Dre as a PG, is it worth having a brooding veteran like on this team? Eventually your attitude will be reflected in your play, regardless of how much of a pro you are, we’ve seen it way too many times here over the years. Rudy could play back PG, as we have seen over the past week how versatile he is, plus Brewer could fill the role as backup SG nicely as well and it could open up more time for Chandler if he comes back to back up SF. Just a thought.

by jd80229 on Jan 14, 2012 11:59 AM MST reply actions  

I don't understand his attitude at all

He’s playing 29 minutes a night and is part of the unit that finishes close games. Why does it matter to him that Ty is with the starting unit? He needs to be like Ginobli was in SA when he was coming off the bench. He’s almost 36 years old, he doesn’t need to be playing a million minutes.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 12:08 PM MST up reply actions  

i thought i understood initially, more of him feeling wanted and appreciated, but now not so much

He doesn’t seem “fully vested” in this team to think that he can set his own ego aside to help a team to a championship, and he’s never been in that situation yet in his career really. Perhaps he would feel different if he was in L.A., Dallas, Boston, or Miami where the team has won (or at least been there) recently, but we sure as hell wouldn’t want to send him to the Lakers or Mavs.

by jd80229 on Jan 14, 2012 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

i think the problem is that he likes to be a driving playmaker with the ball in his hands the dish out for the open shot.

The playmaker role belongs to Law so its really out of his comfort zone being a second option at point. It also exposes his weakness, which is that he’s not that great a shot on the perimeter, which is what happens to him as a second option. I think he would be happier going without Law, but the problem is that he really gums up the offense with his slow tempo upcourt.

by newsman35 on Jan 14, 2012 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd just like to say that I'm really glad the Nugs are relatively injury-free

I wonder how much this risk has factored into GK’s rotations? Seems like with lots of talent on the bench there’s no reason to risk playing anybody too much before the players get into mid-season form.

by river-z on Jan 14, 2012 12:07 PM MST reply actions  

He kept ty in the other night

in a loss after he hurt his foot. He’s been playing guys like Billups and Kmart too many minutes for years. I don’t think Karl thinks long term like that.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Ty's injury was like Ben's.

It only hurts a lot when you rest it and its probably better to play it a bit longer to keep it from stiffening,

by newsman35 on Jan 14, 2012 12:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Just because I want to post this....nothing to do with anything...just funny

http://youtu.be/1zOuxdRMJME

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 14, 2012 12:16 PM MST reply actions  

Yes....yes it was. Deal with it :)

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 14, 2012 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

It's just a Simpsons vid. I was laughing about it earlier and I decided to share.

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 14, 2012 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

been loading for 5 minutes

got about 30 seconds of it so far.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 12:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Holiday weekend

all of the Citiots are here using up the bandwidth.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 12:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Not to self:

Do not go to Grand Lake for weekend getaways, lest getting mocked and derided by the locals.

"Rollin' in the club / HAPPY MEAL"

by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

We depend on the tourists

It’s just frustrating every Friday evening driving 45 mph in the 65 zone because there is snow near the road.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I used to live in a tourist town in Alaska

I know how it goes. I hated slamming on my breaks because the people in front of me think they might have seen a moose. Seriously? They are all over. Move along.

What do tourist do in Grand Lake in the winter time? Snowmachining? That’s the only reason I’ve been up that way.

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Snowmobiling and Ice Fishing

Grand Lake is mostly a summer town, but we have really good snowmobiling and ice fishing. We call them “Moose Jams”. My wife has had people stop in the middle of the road and set up their tripod to take pictures – in the road. Usually we’re patient and try to get through them without running anyone over. That one resulted in my wife laying on her horn until the moose left.

My favorite story was the guy who got arrested for punching another visitor. The man was carrying his young son out to pet the Moose, and another man tried to stop him, so he punched him. The police charge him with assault and child endangerment.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 14, 2012 1:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Try living in Las Vegas.

I live within spitting distance of the strip!

by All Day Jay on Jan 14, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions  

You can't live in Vegas

And complain about tourists.

That’s like living in Florida and complaining about hurricanes and sunshine.

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 5:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Thinking about Andre Miller

This whiny not starting thing is annoying and soon forgotten. but….
We Need Dre This Year. J Stone is a keeper…but Dre is a battle strong warrior.
This Team, This year has a chance to cause real damage in the Playoffs. And Dre will be an important player for us, and he’s gonna realize that he’s part of something special right here. All the good teams have major flaws. The Nuggets (with Dre off the bench) have as good a chance this year as Anybody. Seriously.
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by Nuggburg on Jan 14, 2012 12:42 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Totally agree.

Nice post. Just have to hope that Miller doesn’t make more of a stink than he already has.

by Nate Timmons on Jan 14, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes Dre needs to wake up

And smell the Cliches. Put the ego aside, and fight and bleed for every win. Accept his role. Be a coach on the floor. Help Ty and thd young guys get better. This is Dre’s big chance to go all the way if he wakes up.

by Nuggburg on Jan 14, 2012 2:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Good recap

Wish I wasn’t so chapped by that Monday night loss to the Hornets. Just troubles me to see Denver get up and get motivated for the Heat, but sleepwalk through a loss to the Hornets and a win against New Jersey.

In previous years I’ve made the case that even good teams have bad games sometimes against terrible teams and not to worry about it. So why is this nagging me so much?

I guess what I am looking for is a referral to a good psychologist. If the Nuggets don’t beat Utah handily tomorrow, I’m going to have to join RMC and do nothing but talk shit about the Nuggets and their coach.

Cos if they can’t beat the teams they are supposed to beat, but demonstrate their potential with great games like last night’s, I’m just going to assume they are purposely fucking with my head.

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 1:19 PM MST reply actions  

Reminds me of the AI/Melo Nugs
…if they can’t beat the teams they are supposed to beat, but demonstrate their potential with great games like last night’s…

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by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 14, 2012 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Perhaps that's why

I have this sinking feeling.

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I hated that loss to the Hornets too, but I've come to accept that bad losses are just part of the NBA

The Bulls have lost to Golden State
The Spurs have lost to Minnesota
The Lakers and Heat have had some bad ones too

I will agree that the loss to the Hornets was especially bad, though since it came at home.
My prescription: save your anger and frustration for losses during the playoffs. those are so much more painful.

by river-z on Jan 14, 2012 1:30 PM MST reply actions  

You are absolutely right

I just expect a certain fire. It can’t be there all the time. I definitely have off days myself, where I’m no good for no particular reason. They are humans, not robots. Still. Just saying that all the good feelings from last night’s win will be erased if Denver plays boring, uninspired ball against Utah tomorrow.

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha this shall be rec'd!

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by love4nuggets on Jan 14, 2012 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

the snake that he is...

what is he teething or something?

by jd80229 on Jan 14, 2012 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

This should go along side the Terry gif

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by SDcat09 on Jan 14, 2012 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Soooo happy that the Nuggets won

I predicted the win…and wasn’t to far off the score either.

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by SDcat09 on Jan 14, 2012 3:17 PM MST reply actions  

Me too!

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 3:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Uh, weren't you the one saying like everyday we would lose??

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by SDcat09 on Jan 14, 2012 3:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes

But I’m also happy that the Nuggets won. Hence the “me too!”

Let’s go bowling.

"Rollin' in the club / HAPPY MEAL"

by Fly Agaric on Jan 14, 2012 3:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I would love to! But alas I am in San Diego...

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by SDcat09 on Jan 14, 2012 3:31 PM MST up reply actions  

OHHHH Now I get it...

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by SDcat09 on Jan 14, 2012 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice recap Andrew

And I hope Ty keeps making a believer out of you. Ty and Gallo are the Men, but this team is so deep and unselfish that if one of them is off (Gallo last night) there are literally a half-dozen guys who can step up.
If GK can keep them all happy in terms of minutes (Dre?) this group can go far. Maybe winning will help AAA forget that he only played 21 minutes yesterday. He’ll have to make due with millions instead of minutes this year. Seriously, only Ty and Gallo will probably average over 30 min this season,.
Beware the Can, NBA opponents! WIns in Denver will be scarce.

by slader on Jan 14, 2012 3:53 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah he was

he posted a couple pics on twitter and he seemed REALLY close to the court

Let's start a riot!
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by Army of Nugs on Jan 14, 2012 4:31 PM MST up reply actions  

You’re not picking up his sarcasm? ‘Cause he’s laying it on pretty thick! haha

by Nate Timmons on Jan 14, 2012 5:14 PM MST up reply actions  

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