Golden Nuggets: Over the overseas speculation...
Was the Melo-Drama too much for you to handle? Well, during this lockout the new fad seems to be: Will he or wont he play ball overseas? In my best Valley Girl speak I'd like to say, "Like, totally gag me with a spoon." Could there be a more boring topic of conversation for journalists to "report" on? Will Austin Daye play overseas? ... who cares! Sure, I will care once guys start playing in Europe or wherever, but this "he might" nonsense is making my head hurt.
During the NBA season my Twitter feed can be an interesting read. An abundance of stories about trades, player's lives, road trips, in-fighting among teams and other stories can be found. So far this off-season all we have is lockout talk that is at this point basically regurgitated viewpoints about which side (owners or players) needs to bend so a new deal can get done. And now this latest craze of "will he or wont he..." is hitting my feed and suddenly I'm feeling the lockout strain (already!).
You know things are getting bad when you find yourself checking out pictures on Twitter of J.R. Smith's trip to a zoo and knowing random things like Smith has been sporting a red Mohawk, Gary Forbes thinks he's in the movie Space Jam, and Wilson Chandler continues to make little to no sense in his posts. It's going to be a looooong and bumpy ride.
The crazy thing to me about this lockout is the potential damage it may cause to the end of some serious careers, the trades that may never happen, and the loss of the "what if" to things like the second season of the Miami Heat.
Will the twilight (no vampire) of the careers of Tim Duncan, Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki, and others be ruined by a prolonged lockout? Will we get to see a massive Dwight Howard trade or will he hit the free agent market with a season ending lockout? Will Ty Lawson's growth be stunted by this? Will Danilo Gallinari's? What is going to happen to Nene? How much room will the Nuggets have in free agency if the 2011-12 season doesn't happen and how will they spend that money?
I can't say I don't care what happens between the players and owners and between the owners and owners. The system the NBA was running on was flawed and it needs to be fixed. My Lakers fan friend is not really being affected by this lockout - sure he's slightly worried about the end of Bryant's career - but Lakers fans know that once things get underway again, their team will be fine. But what about Nuggets fans and other mid-small market teams?
Will our teams be able to compete from a financial standpoint with the big markets once this lockout is over? If not, then why the heck is there even a work stoppage? If the real problems are not going to be addressed and band-aids are going to continue to be applied to bullet wounds, then this will all wind up being a massive waste of time.
The money being made in the NBA is has to go somewhere. Some want player salaries to be reduced, but will that just mean more money in the owners' pockets? What's the point of that? Will revenue sharing ever be truly addressed? I hope it will, but I'm not too optimistic.
Some folks want to see a revenue sharing system like Major League Baseball has implemented. There are definitely some pros to that system, but the one con that worries me is: if revenue sharing is properly put into place, will owners feel the need to put a quality team together? The Pittsburgh Pirates haven't been any good since I was a kid (and they could never get past the Atlanta Braves ... and they had a skinny outfielder named Barry Bonds) and they don't seem to ever be willing to spend money on their players, but they continue to get a piece of the revenue pie. Why?
Just like how players sometimes have incentives built into their contracts, I think NBA teams should have incentive based revenue sharing. If teams like the Nuggets, Lakers, Heat, Celtics, Grizzlies, and others show that they are spending money and trying to compete for the title then they should be rewarded more-so than others teams that don't appear to have a plan (Timberwolves) or don't care to (Clippers).
I guess until this all gets worked out we will just have to keep reading why Metta World Peace might go play in England ... blah.
If this were golf, then we'd hit the links ... but for now - just read them:
Do the Players -- and Cities -- Really Need NBA Owners? David Berri, Huffington Post
Pretty interesting little article right here. The lockout gives us time for radical thinking...
Russell statue site to be disclosed today - Boston.com
About time don't you think???
University of Miami to Wear LeBron James Branded Nike Gear - Slam Online
What better way to say: We are gunning for SECOND PLACE! How many more times will I be able to make that sort of joke?
Lockout: The TV problem - Ethan Sherwood Strauss, Hoopspeak.com
Pretty good read about the massive money tied up in TV contracts with the NBA.
NBA Rumors - Inside Hoops.com
Amare ... will he or wont he!?! Some talk on Shane Battier and more.
Jeff Van Gundy: Yao is a Hall of Famer - Matt Moore, NBC Sports Pro Basketball Talk
Sorry Mr. Van Gundy, but I disagree ... too bad about Yao though, he was a good guy, a better player, and is an even better person. Can I write check? will always remind me of Yao.
A funny thing happened to the Lakers' Ron Artest - Bill Plaschke, Los Angeles Times
Great read by Plaschke on one of the most interesting NBA personalities.
Do You Only Live Once? Experiments Suggest Life Not One-Time Deal - Robert Lanza, M.D., Huffington Post
Like to freak yourself out or read about stuff outside the box? Check this story out.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 11, 2011 10:41 AM MDT reply actions
Yur stir crazy Big Man
as 4 shoes, whatu got?
wat u got?
let's go nuggets! who u wit?
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Fun Story about an actual basketball game
Early on the Sonics are doing a great job on Barkley, sending the double immediately. If he were Dwight Howard, this would be the end of the story. But Barkley actually adjusts to the coverage and starts cutting immediately after passing out of the double, which confuses the Sonics to no end as all their lanes are then in chaos. At one point, Barkley just loops around Majerle low and shoves Majerle into two defenders, which allows Ainge to float him the ball right in the center of the paint for an easy one.
Mark West with a great weak-side recovery to block Payton at the rim. On the block, which was clean, West makes contact elbow-to-head on Payton. Payton just turns and runs back on defense. Today, Payton would have clutched his head and crumpled to the floor, perhaps penning a letter to his mother on his death-bed.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 11, 2011 10:52 AM MDT reply actions
You don't think Yao is a Hall of Famer?
I didn’t read the article, but I can see why someone wouldn’t want him in. I think he gets in though based on his contibutions to the sport. I definitely wouldn’t mind seeing him in.
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He gets in for being the Paris Hilton of basketball?
He played essentially 4 full seasons, only two of those at a really top level. He got out of the first round of the playoffs once. That’s his full resume. The all star game appearances can’t be counted. He somehow gets credit for all of China because he’s Chinese? Does Nene get Hall of Fame credit because he’s from Brazil, or Tony Parker because he’s from France?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 11, 2011 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions
I don’t think he gets in based upon some of what TIDBMTID says – only getting out of the first round once and not having a full body of work career wise. I’ve read some Bill Simmons stuff where he talks about how the Hall of Fame should also include people who made a difference in the sport for various reasons, but I don’t see it that way. I think the Hall should stand for more and be a tough honor to earn. At the same time I also would argue that Terrell Davis (Broncos) should definitely be in the Hall of Fame … Super Bowl MVP, two Super Bowl championships, 2,000 yard club – injuries shortened his career, but if he wasn’t around I don’t think John Elway ever wins his rings …
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 11, 2011 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Really?
A LOT of bloggers I’ve talked to believe he will get in. They don’t necessarily agree he SHOULD get in, but they think he will get in. I have absolutely no problem with Yao getting in because of the impact he had on the sport. Yao’s impact on the recognition of today’s game borders on the impacts of guys like Kobe, Shaq, and LeBron. He’s just that well-known, and not just in China.
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"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
And that’s sort of where the Hall of Fame thing starts to differ … should be it a place where guys who changed the game get recognized or should it be to honor the best players? I’m not too big on the argument of who should get in or not, I’ll likely always remember Yao, and he was good, but he’s not a Hall of Famer to me.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 11, 2011 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions
As Peter King would say
It is not the hall of very good.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 12, 2011 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Conversely, it's not the hall of best, it's the hall of fame
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jul 12, 2011 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
That said, I do like the guy but don't think he belongs in the hall
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jul 12, 2011 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Compare his resume
to a guy like Bill Walton, who also had injuries. They aren’t even in the same ballpark.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 12, 2011 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Rec'd
Never thought of it that way, but that’s perfect.
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We can all rest easy knowing there is likely some universe out there in which the Nugs won a title
so when someone says to be “Nugs have never won a title, LAKERZZZ!!!” I can respond with “actually the Nuggets have won 65 titles in another universe” and may be accurate.
by Phil H. on Jul 11, 2011 2:56 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I like to think of the alternate universe where kobe bryant just spontaneously burst into flames
by Rainbow skyline on Jul 11, 2011 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions
My alternative world has Bryant being a 15 ppg, 20 shots per game "scorer" in the mold of Larry Hughes
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"Sometimes I get this crazy dream, that I could just drive off in my car. But you can travel over ten thousand miles, and still stay where you are" - Harry Chapin
LOL
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jul 12, 2011 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions
The idea of multiple universes
sounds plausible to me. The idea of infinite universes sounds more like a scientist making something up to explain a problem with his theory. Which is more likely – that the original theory has a problem because the scientist doesn’t have a complete understanding of the universe, or that when I decide to have a burger instead of grilled cheese, an entire separate universe is created in which I have a grilled cheese? Seems like a lot of trouble for something so trivial. Plus, wouldn’t that require an infinite energy source somewhere?
If there are infinite universes, why am I in this one, and not the one where the Nazi’s rule the world or the one where I’m rich, President of the United Federation of Planets, and married to Courtney Cox and Ashley Judd?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 11, 2011 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions
I like to think of it as multi-dementional planes
the alternate you is right here, just on another plane of existence therefor you can’t see each other eating grilled cheese/ burgers
It also takes away choice
and with it, responsibility. If all choices are happening simultaneously, then the murderer isn’t to blame for her actions. She just happens to be in the universe where she was required to murder someone in order to balance out the universe where she didn’t murder that person. Sorry honey, no I won’t put down the doughnuts and ice cream. This just happens to be the universe where I have to eat myself into oblivion. No choice in the matter.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 11, 2011 4:12 PM MDT up reply actions
haha! exactly
I HAVE to eat a cheeseburger tonight, for if I don’t, the world as we know it will cease to exist!
Too bad we're not in the universe
in which Harrington chose not to eat all those cheeseburgers. He’s probably still a good player in that one.
Courtney Cox and Ashley Judd … interesting choices!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 11, 2011 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions
In my other universe...
Shakira is the mother of my 11 children.
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by Army of Nugs on Jul 11, 2011 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions
That HuffPost article sucked
But from one of the interweb’s greatest purveyors of wooful bullshit, I’m not surprised.
It started strong....
and finished like lebron! Heyo! :)
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by love4nuggets on Jul 11, 2011 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions
I saw one I really liked today
Lebronymous
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 11, 2011 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions
haha these LeBron jokes make me laugh – and I’m not a LeBron-hater.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 11, 2011 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions
completly agree.
Sick of the rumours of players signing elsewhere, unless its in the NBL in Australia. Nate, I enjoyed J.R’s trip to the zoo, it was like I was there when he posted a pic of every single animal he saw…
I found a nice little read on Chu Chu from Hoopshype
http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/sierra/2011/07/11/remember-my-name/
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Nice find on that article.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 11, 2011 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions
I felt the same way!
I had his page on auto refresh every 1 min yesterday and even walked outside so i would feel the same breeze
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by Army of Nugs on Jul 11, 2011 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions
This is why I love JR
He is the fuckin’ man. No other star would do that shit.
God damn it Karl…why you got to get rid of a balla like that.
Well I have faith in Hamilton, but would rather have JR over Chandler
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Jul 12, 2011 12:30 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Did anyone else see
Brandon Jennings dropped 81 points in a charity game? Our very own Jordan Hamilton played min the game as well along with a few other NBA players. Not sure how Hamilton went but 81 from Jennings!?
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Heard he broke Melo’s unofficial record of 74 in a charity game last summer or something (via Twitter).
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 11, 2011 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions
KAAAAAHHHHHHNNNNN!!!
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_kurt_rambis_fired_071211
looks like one of the “top” candidates is Bernie “franchise destroyer” Bickerstaff
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jul 12, 2011 10:21 AM MDT reply actions
OT: Michael Irvin....huh....I just gained some respect for him
http://deadspin.com/5820426/this-is-michael-irvin-on-cover-of-out-magazine
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jul 12, 2011 11:12 AM MDT reply actions
That totally makes up for stabbing a guy in the neck with scissors.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 12, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm not exactly sure what WOULD make up for that sort of thing
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jul 12, 2011 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions
It involves
wearing brightly colored suits and using large words with definitions you don’t really understand, I believe.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 12, 2011 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
NRLB complaint is being investigated
Says they have interviewed 7 to 10 people in recent weeks. Unless the owners are complete idiots, I can’t see how the players can prove this.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 12, 2011 11:35 AM MDT reply actions
Where the owners got a little tripped up
was cancelling the summer league before collectively bargaining it. The owners cancelled it prior to the lockout which is a signal of their intentions. Then it all boils down to semantics anyway.
Bad faith is hard to prove unless it’s blatantly obvious.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jul 12, 2011 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions
The republicans can tell you all about bad faith
while they are attempting to lock out the entire country.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 12, 2011 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Why let logic prevail when ideological rhetoric is so much easier to spout?
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jul 12, 2011 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions
LOL at your perception of logic.
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by KevinAwesome on Jul 12, 2011 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions
double LOLs at your perception of my perception
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jul 12, 2011 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
ROFL
His perception is clouded by the “Fog of Fox News”. Can’t really blame him for watching. If you don’t watch, Rupert Murdoch puts you on his enemies list, they start spying on you, and hack your cell phone.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 12, 2011 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions
14 million bees on the road
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 12, 2011 11:54 AM MDT reply actions
This just made my day
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jul 12, 2011 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Ty Lawson thinking of playin in Europe
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_18462281
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Rookie contract
He can probably make as much or more than Denver is supposed to pay him next year.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jul 12, 2011 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions
If he plays for a good system and coach, that could do wonders for his development
However, if he gets injured… well, I won’t go there
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Durant thinking of playing in Europe
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/07/11/drew.league/index.html
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Also Iggy and Jamal Crawford
So this should probably be clear by now that every NBA player is thinking of playing overseas
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jul 12, 2011 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I wish Players wanted to come to Australia
They are going to get a lot more money for playing in Europe but Australia is a beautiful place to live. The competition is not as strong as Europe but with some NBA players coming out and playing, it would really boost exposure to the sport out here. Until then basketball in Aus will always be in the shadow of Aussie rules football and cricket…
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by stan_26 on Jul 12, 2011 6:28 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
I am thinking about playing in Europe
After all, I’m already here, and there’s a court in the park not far away.
Gawd, what a bore this lockout is.
Haha! Do it! Do it!
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by love4nuggets on Jul 13, 2011 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions
So are we going to select a European team to root for and live blog their Euroleague games?
I vote FC Barcelona
I agree
never thought that would happen
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by Army of Nugs on Jul 13, 2011 5:58 PM MDT up reply actions
WHY?
Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv FTW
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