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Tomasson: Adrian Dantley not coming back

Courtesy of our friend Chris Tomasson, Hall of Famer Adrian Dantley’s eight-year run as a Nuggets assistant coach appears to be over.

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By Chris Tomasson

Adrian Dantley on Sunday confirmed a New York Post report that he has been let go. His contract, expiring at the end of this month, won’t be renewed for next season.

"Oh, yeah, I’m done,’’ Dantley said. "(Nuggets coach George Karl) fired me Friday.’’

Messages left Sunday for Karl and Nuggets executive vice president of basketball operations Masai Ujiri were not immediately returned.

"I got fired because I didn’t rotate on the bench,’’ said Dantley, who was regarded as Karl’s lead assistant and filled in for Karl for the final 1 ½ months of the 2009-10 season when the head man was battling a form of throat cancer.

NBA teams are allowed to have three assistants sit on the bench, with others having to sit behind it. Dantley, who always had sat on the bench, said Karl approached him early last season and requested he rotate along with other assistants either sitting on or behind the bench.

Dantley said he sat behind the bench for the final 67 games of the regular season and during the playoffs and wouldn’t rotate to the front of the bench. Nuggets assistants Chad Iske, John Welch and Melvin Hunt sat on the bench for those games.

"I didn’t rotate,’’ said Dantley, an NBA star forward from 1976-2001 who was named in 2008 to the Hall of Fame. "I wasn’t going to rotate. If they (other assistants) want the publicity to sit up front, I don’t need the publicity… I got no problem not being seen on TV and sitting at the back of the bench.’’

Dantley would not single out any specific assistants. The New York Post reported "one or lower-level assistants’’ suggested the rotation to Karl.

"This had to do with a whole lot of backstabbing,’’ Dantley said. "I got fired because I wouldn’t rotate. And people felt uncomfortable (about that).’’

Dantley went 11-8 in games Karl missed late in the 2009-10 season due to cancer. With Dantley at the helm, the Nuggets were upset 4-2 in the first round of the playoffs to Utah.

The Jazz won despite not having injured starters Andrei Kirilenko and Mehmet Okur. Dantley said he didn’t believe his ouster had anything to do with the job he did in then leading the Nuggets. Dantley is in the process of packing and leaving Denver.

He was asked if he was disappointed about the timing of Karl’s decision, which came the day after the draft (Dantley had been helping work out prospects) and a week before the NBA is expected to go on what could be a long lockout.

"What upset me is the loyalty you show to someone and you get screwed,’’ Dantley said.

 

Andrew's Take:

George Karl "inherited" Adrian Dantley from the Kiki Vandeweghe Era, and Dantley never seemed like the right fit on the Nuggets bench alongside younger (read: cheaper) and hungrier assistants like John Welch, Chad Iske, Jamahl Mosley and now Melvin Hunt. 

Given Dantley's seniority, by default Dantley was the "lead assistant" after Scott Brooks left. But Dantley was clearly in over his head when taking over the head coaching reigns for a cancer-stricken Karl for the remainder of the 2010 regular season and the playoffs that came thereafter. For the Nuggets to lose to an injury-depleted Jazz team while their head coach was battling cancer was inexcusable. Just read any of the comments left by the readers of this site during that series to see how much confidence the fans had in Dantley.

That being said, Dantley was loyal and did the best job he was capable of doing, and was rewarded as such by remaining with the Nuggets last season. But to suggest that Dantley should have remained on board for the 2011-12 season is a bit of a stretch from my vantage point.

I don't know if any of our readers caught Peter Vecsey's New York Post story on the Dantley issue earlier today, but Vecsey insists that no coach could have handled that 2010 Nuggets playoff team and I fundamentally disagree with that premise. Lest we forget that before Karl got sick and Kenyon Martin got hurt, the Nuggets were within a few games of the conference-leading Lakers and were still just one season removed from a Western Conference Finals run.

Knowing the NBA and the Nuggets as I do, I'm sure Vandeweghe gave his friend and fellow player Dantley a juicy contract to be an assistant for Jeff Bzdelik back when owner Stan Kroenke would spend, spend, spend to make the Nuggets better. But in this era of financial austerity among NBA teams (especially including the Nuggets) where every nickel now has to be better accounted for, Dantley is hardly a surprising casualty.

We should all collectively thank Dantley for his years of loyal service on the Nuggets bench. But Dantley was probably expensive as far as assistant coaches go, the Nuggets have way too many assistant coaches to begin with and when given the opportunity to showcase his head coaching abilities, Dantley was unable to deliver.

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AD!?

This seems like an extremely odd way to end a tenure with a team, this story makes me feel awkward just reading it….there’s got to be more to the story than failing to rotate on the bench? You would hope so…well either way, AD you are the man and your time in Denver was appreciated!

by DJ Bedz on Jun 26, 2011 1:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Meh

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by KevinAwesome on Jun 26, 2011 1:56 PM MDT reply actions  

+a billion

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by big_p.a.w.z. on Jun 26, 2011 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Holy hell.

I didn’t realize this was such a big deal. When I read the title I thought he was just let go because he wasn’t worth a new contract, but damn. Didn’t realize there was such an issue.

Makes me wonder what else might be going on in the organization.

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by Agaliarept on Jun 26, 2011 2:21 PM MDT reply actions  

This is bad PR.

Just when you think this organization is headed in the right direction boom they do something stupid like this. It’s terrible and embarassing. Good luck AD I hope you find another coaching gig just like tim grgurich did with Dallas now he’s got a new fat ring to show off. Great job nuggets great job.

by tknuckle on Jun 26, 2011 2:45 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Chris Tomasson got the scoop and wrote this exclusively for Denver Stiffs

Big thanks to Mr. Tomasson!

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 26, 2011 2:52 PM MDT reply actions  

Excuse me...I mean those quotes from AD were exclusive to Denver Stiffs

once again…big thanks to Chris Tomasson

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 26, 2011 2:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

WHOAAAAAAA! I'm shocked.

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by SDcat09 on Jun 26, 2011 2:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Also, I don't understand the thing about rotating on the bench?

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by SDcat09 on Jun 26, 2011 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

rotating from behind the bench to the front

basically….seat rotation on the bench.

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 26, 2011 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

But why does it matter?

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by SDcat09 on Jun 26, 2011 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

that's the million dollar question

we can only speculate at this point

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 26, 2011 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I mean if that's what it is, that sounds pretty petty on both sides.

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by SDcat09 on Jun 26, 2011 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

As much as AD would like to tell himself it was solely his lack of rotating

I have a feeling(and quite frankly hope) that there is more to it than that. If there wasn’t…well…wtf?!

by Phil H. on Jun 26, 2011 3:02 PM MDT reply actions  

Upon further reflection, AD wasn't fired, he just didn't get a new contract

If he didn’t figure out this was coming when he still didn’t have a new contract lined up a week or less before the current one expired…well, he seems oblivious.

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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 27, 2011 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

think about it

why pay an expensive veteran assistant coach (lead assistant), if he isnt good enough or has no shot of one day becoming head coach, he showed he couldnt cut it. GK isnt the picture of health, if we need to be spending money on assistant coaches they need to at least have the potential to come in if George goes down, and not implode the team

by nsink on Jun 27, 2011 7:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

+1

I tend to agree. The NYPost story makes it sound like our front office didn’t handle this well — only the FO and AD really knows what happened, but at the end of the day i am not that bothered by this move. The Ggrch one last year was much more upsetting.

by Boulder_Matthew on Jun 27, 2011 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also from Tomasson
christomasson Chris Tomasson
Some Brazilians think Nene drop out of Oly qual means will opt out of contract But agent Dan Fegan told HoopsHype could re-sign w/ Den as FA

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 26, 2011 3:12 PM MDT reply actions  

more
christomasson Chris Tomasson
Because Nene not max guy less risk to opt out Contracts should stay at least 4 years & top deals should be above 11.6 mil he’s due in 11-12.

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 26, 2011 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

and finally
christomasson Chris Tomasson
Annual raises of 10.5 percent likely to go down but Nene might figure that can be made up with higher starting salary if opts out

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 26, 2011 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

There is no way in the world

Nene is worth more than $12 million a year.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 27, 2011 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Something doesn't sound right about this story...

Fired for not rotating? Really??

Most likely he was fired either because 1. he wasn’t a very good coach or 2. economics – he was making too much given what he brought to the table.

Who gets fired for not rotating his seat on the bench rather than his poor rotation of players? If you’re a good coach no one is going to give a crap about politics of where you sit on the bench. In fact, I would say that the fact Adrian Dantley thinks he got fired for not rotating speaks volumes about his ability to problem solve, diagnose issues, and make adjustments – probably the real reason he got fired.

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by chantech on Jun 26, 2011 4:05 PM MDT reply actions  

Bingo.

Your last line says it all.

by Ski Bum on Jun 26, 2011 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Damn, so who replaces him.

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by Kevin L on Jun 26, 2011 4:18 PM MDT reply actions  

Like merit is always rewarded...
the Nuggets have way too many assistant coaches to begin with and when given the opportunity to showcase his head coaching abilities, Dantley was unable to deliver.

Yeah, I mean, it’s obvious GK has performed much better in the playoffs… Despite the fluke WC run, how better has he performed? If Denver had a better strategist on the bench they could’ve ousted Oklahoma. I only wish coaches that didn’t deliver were always fired. If that’s really the case, hopefully that’s the first and GK will come next (yeah, keep dreaming…).

In any case, whether AD did a good job or not, he should have received a heads up about his contract not being renewed. The way this was handled was not good at all. In any case, brace yourselves for 20 minutes a game of a Ty and Dre backcourt next season.

by NightHiker on Jun 26, 2011 5:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Uhm GK has coached a team to the finals

and if not for a guy named Jordan, probably would have a ring

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by Zachm219 on Jun 26, 2011 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's a little oversimplified

If you look at the larger picture, his teams are consistently underperforming in the playoffs where adjustments, strategy, and matchups become more important.

A lot of that is coaching. You can say that some of Karls’ soft skills like managing volatile personalities got them that far, but he just gets murdered from a strategy and execution perspective.

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by chantech on Jun 26, 2011 7:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly my point. Thanks.

Read the piece about Carlisle on ESPN.com, about how he did his job of always giving Dallas the best chance to win, and tell me you could place GK in that same sentence with a straight face.

by NightHiker on Jun 26, 2011 7:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

How many times has GK lost when his team has been favored to win?

Twice? How many series has he been in? Maybe we should take a little harder look at talent and a little less at miracle strategy. Recent istory for instance, lets start to man up and face the facts, we had no business playing against OKC this past playoffs, we had no business playing against the lakers when we got swept, we really were undermatched against them in the WCF, we had no chance against the spurs when we lost, Karl didn’t coach us against Utah. The only series we could have possibly, maybe won was against the Clippers.

I think it’s your opinion that is a little oversimplified

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by Zachm219 on Jun 26, 2011 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Championship quality teams

Do not handle business this way. The nuggets have handled this AD and Nene situations very poorly and to tell you the truth I’m all not that thrilled about it. Makes this franchise look weak. Its time for damage control?

by tknuckle on Jun 26, 2011 5:57 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

AD may not be head coaching material

However he is a HOF’er as a player and you would hope the organization could have made this move in a better way so he could go out more gracefully and not make public his feelings about the whole deal. Good luck getting other assistants that are worth a damn and aren’t yes men like the ones we have now. This deal smells pretty bad.

by jd80229 on Jun 26, 2011 6:07 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

How much more gracefully can they handle it?

They chose not to renew the guy’s contract…

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by chantech on Jun 26, 2011 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Now hold on one minute

God I get so sick of people jumping on every single thing to try and trash on George Karl.

Let’s look at who is really to blame here. Adrian Dantley gets all up in a fuss about how Karl wants to start rotating coaches, he basically throws a tantrum and says fine, I’ll just sit in the back the whole time and you can have it your way. Really? You are going to cause friction with the entire coaching staff over something so small as not getting your seat on the bench every night.

 AD was overpaid, was a poor coach and obviously not a team player. Good riddance.

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by Zachm219 on Jun 26, 2011 6:18 PM MDT reply actions  

I have to agree with this.

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by love4nuggets on Jun 26, 2011 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

brilliant argument

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by Zachm219 on Jun 26, 2011 9:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

note the ""...

thats your brilliant argument i quoted.

by calvin brodus on Jun 27, 2011 12:09 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Glad to See AD Go

It was obvious there was dissension last season among the coaching staff, with Melvin Hunt taking a more visible role with GK and with the players. I think this a conflict between Mel Hunt and AD, and Mel won. Frankly, I would much rather have Hunt than AD. AD refusing to rotate, and sitting in back pouting all season, was rather childish and a disruption the team didn’t need. Maybe Coach Grg can return now??

My only concern is if AD had a good relationship with Nene, and this is another factor in Nene going elsewhere…

by ACEIII on Jun 26, 2011 6:22 PM MDT reply actions  

great point

If Nene is opting out, we lose him for nothing, right? Years of patience and development down the toilet, that sucks, and we have no silver lining to follow up the worst lottery pick in franchise history in Skita. They might as well move on and let JR and Kenyon walk as well to stop pretending that those guys will be part of future of the Nuggets. They all seemed to have got tired of Coach Karl and the organization, so it may be time to turn the page. It will up to Karl to make it happen once several of his excuses have left the building, it just sucks not to get anything for those guys when they had the chance.

by jd80229 on Jun 26, 2011 6:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm totally nonplussed about Dantley

I did notice that he seemed to take a diminished role amongst the other assistants last season, but I didn’t think too much of it.

I’m totally with Andrew that his coaching cost us that series against Utah in the 2010 playoffs.

More sad about the indications that Nene is considering opting out. That would make me cry.

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by Fly Agaric on Jun 26, 2011 6:53 PM MDT reply actions  

His coaching was bad...

But the overlooked issue is all the injuries we had at the end of the season and Nene getting injured. That and the Jazz happened to be the better team that year…

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by chantech on Jun 26, 2011 7:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

By the way, I love this move

Assistant coaches are super important and play a huge role on good teams. Dallas, this year, was an example of a team where each of the assistant coaches brought something unique and valuable to the table.

I never thought the guy was that good of a coach to begin with, and a coach pouting is the absolute worst thing for a team where players are looking to the coaches for leadership and solidarity. If the coaching staff doesn’t convey a consistent message, good luck getting the players to execute it. It’s also terrible when the team goes through adversity when players and coaches need to stick together.

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by chantech on Jun 26, 2011 7:19 PM MDT reply actions  

I don't have a problem with this, actually agree...

You just don’t leave the guy in the dark. Though I don’t know, maybe they did tell him they would not renew it and this has no became public. It’s possible we’re only seeing one side. I still would love to see the other bad coach who pouts go too.

by NightHiker on Jun 26, 2011 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

As Usual, Great Job by Chris Tomasson..

This guy should be employed by The Post. He is one of the top NBA writers in the nation.

by ACEIII on Jun 26, 2011 7:37 PM MDT reply actions  

I agree with this!

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 26, 2011 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

completely unrelated but

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Classic quote!

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by stan_26 on Jun 27, 2011 1:56 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

So... how will this turn out to be Melo's fault

Diva Coach Karl has taken no blame nor responsibility on anything and continue to try to blame everything wrong on Melo

Funny though, the team tanked in the playoffs again. The players were outplayed and the coaches were outcoached… just like every year

But it’s never the Diva’s fault, of course not.

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by the word on Jun 26, 2011 9:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Glad to see you've come up with another nickname

how do you do it I wonder

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by Zachm219 on Jun 27, 2011 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Word to this.

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by love4nuggets on Jun 26, 2011 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

was about to mention how cool it is to see DS mentioned as a source on local news stations. Thanks to Tomasson for the hook up.

by Phil H. on Jun 26, 2011 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

he's like the guy on office space

he never knew he was fired and just “hanged around”, I bet he will have front row seats right behind the nuggets bench again this year not doing a thing.

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by CloudBurst on Jun 26, 2011 9:36 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

This is all just a genius plan

to get the Jazz to hire their former great as a HC and then have him work his “magic” in that position.

by Phil H. on Jun 26, 2011 10:04 PM MDT reply actions  

All the hatred about this is ridiculous.

AD didn’t really help this team that much. He wasn’t even really fired. He just wasn’t renewed. Does that really surprise anyone given all the changes this team has gone through lately. Get over it. Maybe GK will bring in a good defensive minded assistant since that’s where his focus seems to be now.

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by NotWorriedAboutNuggets on Jun 26, 2011 10:15 PM MDT reply actions  

Defense wins slam dunk competitions

…or something to that effect, right?

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by love4nuggets on Jun 26, 2011 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to join in the GK bashing...

I’m not convinced by the way GK handled the team in the playoffs. But there us also the fact that all of those losses were so close. We lose a game after a blown goaltending call, we lose a game where JR Smith and Birdman only play like 10 minutes (where, I might add, they were complete trash when they were on the court) and so on and so on. We were really close or won 4/5 games against a team with the ridiculous Kevin Durant that made the conference finals.

I’m not definitively saying GK is a good coach or anything like that. There were some seemingly obvious adjustments we hoped he would make and the 2 point guard lineup is puzzling. But what he DID do was keep a team without a go-to closer-type player close against a team that trashed us near the end of the regular season. We may all still be a little sore after the way we went out in the playoffs too (especially since OKC is a bunch of punk bitches- Westbrook, Perkins, Ibaka & others UGH) but I don’t see why this is an excuse to make every event about blaming GK. People are now spouting about our 2009 playoff run being a fluke- give me a break. We were exciting and played really well to end this season when we had a bunch of new pieces, I put that on GK.

Adrian Dantley sucked. He was awful against the Jazz. A team with a real rallying point went out there completely flat and lost against a mentally weak team (as we saw when they played the Lakers) that had a ton of injuries. This story is kinda silly too. Good riddance.

by Vee Sanford's Velvet Tracksuit on Jun 27, 2011 12:40 AM MDT reply actions  

seemed like ty lawson was bummed

when he heard the news.

i dont really have an opinion on this, i just hope we can move on from all this drama of the 2010-2011 season and get going with this new team of nuggets.

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by 808inDenver on Jun 27, 2011 9:48 AM MDT reply actions  

probably

cause he knows Karl hates young guys, and is going to give his new found minutes up to Dre

by nsink on Jun 27, 2011 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Except Karl seems to really like Gallo

so I’m not sure that he dislikes younger guys altogether.

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by SDcat09 on Jun 27, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

i know

it was supposed to be sarcastic if Karl really gives up Lawson starting spot to Miller i think there will be a mutiny in Nugget Nation

by nsink on Jun 27, 2011 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

maybe

but was their really a veteran option available to test that.

forbes, WC, and Gallo are all about the same age (forbes being the oldest, but a rookie)

by nsink on Jun 27, 2011 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe he has made an exception for Gallo

since he knows Gallo’s father. Karl coached Real Madrid in the 90’s and his team had to play against Gallo’s father’s team.

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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 27, 2011 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dallas started the trend of having 5 or more assistants

Coach Karl has only developed one assistant into HC material in his time with the Nugs in Scott Brooks, who for all intent and purposea outcoached his mentor in the playoffs. I know Karl didn’t have the time or abilty to make the adjustments necessary in bringing a basically new team into the playoffs post Melodrama. Hopefully he can bring in a couple of veteran assistants with HC experience to rework the offense and defense schemes to fit the players the Nugs have right now or plan to go with after the labor situation is resolved.

by jd80229 on Jun 27, 2011 11:47 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Can't Believe the Vitriol is Aimed at GK and Nuggets Here...

AD sounds like a child who didn’t get his way, and instead of dealing with it like a man, he pouted on the back bench all season…what a great example of leadership. He had his chance to coach the team, failed miserably, holds this grudge all season, then talks shit when they don’t give him a new contract? Good riddance.

by MikeyLikesNuggets on Jun 27, 2011 3:22 PM MDT reply actions  

I like Karl

But… I understand why some people don’t. A lot of the criticisms of his coaching is fairly apt.

While I like Karl and think he is the best option for the Nuggets at the coaching spot, I don’t think he deserves a free pass from us fans. I just hope the criticism we give him is thoughtful and civil. I mean, Denver Stiffs is a source of Nuggets news now, we have to up our game, yo.

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by Fly Agaric on Jun 27, 2011 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

I feel you

I like Karl too and think there’s no better options to coach our team right now. That being said, I’ve been EXTREMELY critical of his lack of adjustments in the playoffs, but hopefully with a full season with the new team (fingers crossed) he will be better prepared come playoff time

by JBnuggs on Jun 27, 2011 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

I find the commenst in this thread quite entertaining.

People are simply using this situation to voice there frustrations at whatever they are with the Nuggets organization.

Someone thinks it’s tme for damage control? Um, they just pulled a coup on the Melo thing, getting more value than anyone thought possible; then they followed it up by having a (by all accounts) wonderful draft getting two high value picks late in the first round and a veteran PG to back up Ty for a PG that wanted out. Think things are looking up in terms of the direction of this franchise.

As for this Dantley situation: he wasn’t a great coach, didn’t get offerred an extension, now he’s all sour grapes about it. Just shows his lack of poise, composure, and grace . . . not what I want in a coach. I think not extending him is another good move by the new ownership/GM structure.

by blooming rock on Jun 29, 2011 10:57 AM MDT reply actions  

One more thing

This response is kind of classic Dantley. There’s a reason he played for seven NBA teams despite how good he was on the floor, including being traded after winning rookie of the year in 1976. I’m sure he’s mellowed over time, but he was never seen as the easiest guy to get along with.

by blooming rock on Jun 29, 2011 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize just how bad Peter V's NYP piece was

He keeps referring to it as a termination, when there just wasn’t a new contract offered. And then this bit of journalistic, um, ‘flourish’:

In late May, Karl told Dantley he was thinking about making a change. "You didn’t look happy this season," he told him, raising the back-of-the-bus, er, in-back-of-the-bench situation.

Maybe I misunderstood what he meant, but a ‘back-of-the-bus’ reference is in poor taste and cheapens the significance of the civil rights movement.

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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 29, 2011 1:22 PM MDT reply actions  

yea that's just bad form

I think AD is all sour about Melvin Hunt becoming George’s right hand man

by JBnuggs on Jun 29, 2011 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

I am amazed there are people who sided with Dantley here

If the guy’s quotes were anything to go by, he wasn’t any less prickly as an assistant coach than he was as a player. Not rotating on the bench is a petty damn thing, but it shows that he wasn’t willing to get with the program, and it also means he created an ego drama that Karl and the other assistants didn’t need.
Karl was absolutely right not to renew the guy’s contract.

Michael Ray Richardson on the Nuggets:

Reporter: What do you think is happening to the team?
Richardson: The ship be sinking.
Reporter: How far can it sink?
Richardson: Sky's the limit.

by Scissor on Jul 21, 2011 10:39 AM MDT reply actions  

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