Nuggets draft recap: Biggest winner tonight is Masai Ujiri
by Nate Timmons on Jun 23, 2011 11:27 PM MDT
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PrintAfter pulling off a great deal mid-season with the New York Knicks, Nuggets Nation was abuzz about what he would do for an encore. Well, after tonight's draft Denver fans should be very pleased with the direction the team is heading. The Nuggets traded Raymond Felton to the Portland Trail Blazers and in return received Andre Miller (for his second tour here) and the draft rights to Jordan Hamilton via the Dallas Mavericks. In addition to getting good value for Felton, the Nuggets landed a guy they wanted at No. 22 in power forward, and rebounding machine, Kenneth Faried. Well done Mr. Ujiri - well done.
As I'm sitting here typing this - right next to me - Chris Tomasson is on the phone with the newest Nugget Jordan Hamilton. I wanted to grab the phone and tell Hamilton that I'm happy he's going to be a Nugget.
The folks in the media room at the Pepsi Center calmly watched the first-round unfold, but a funny thing happened along the way - the Portland Trail Blazers drafted Duke guard Nolan Smith with pick No. 21 and the room suddenly erupted with trade talk. Shortly after Nolan was selected we learned that the Nuggets had indeed swapped Raymond Felton to Portland. But for what players?
Andrew and I were immediately concerned that the draft picks involved (No. 21 for Portland and No. 22 for Denver) were going to be swapped and that Smith was coming to Denver and perhaps Faried (whom the Nuggets literally just picked) was going to Portland. Our fears were quickly put at ease as we learned that the draft picks would be staying put and Faried would indeed be coming to Denver.
Trade breakdown:
Denver receives:
PG Andre Miller
SF/PF Jordan Hamilton (No. 26 pick)
Future 2nd Round Pick (from Portland)Portland receives:
Raymond FeltonDallas receives:
Rudy Fernandez
As ESPN delayed announcing the deal, Marc Stein posted it on Twitter, and confirmation floated around the room at the Pepsi Center. Finally ESPN announced the deal, but they had Hamilton staying in Portland - this error was later corrected and the draft day coup by Ujiri and Company was complete.
Before Morehead State played Louisville, I was actually walking around outside the Pepsi Center, looking for quotes on the NBA playoffs. I walked right by the Morehead State bus as it was pulling up. Faried walked right in front of me and I had no idea who he was, but noticed his can't miss dreadlocks right away. Faried says he likes to whip his hair around to annoy his opponent and that hair is something that Nugget fans will get to know well.
As the first-round was unfolding Feinstein, Tomasson, Jeremy from Roundball Mining Company, and I were taking note that certain players were slipping and that the Nuggets might have their pick of Faried and Hamilton, but never did I think they'd be able to land both.
I figured somebody would snag Faried earlier than No. 22 as his motor, work ethic, and rebounding will translate to the NBA game and he will be able to help the Nuggets right away. Some say he could be the next Dennis Rodman, people in Nuggets Nation may fear him because of the minor resemblance to Renaldo Balkman, but hopefully, if his offensive game can improve, he can be a different type of player than either of those two.
The pick of Faried likely spells doom for Kenyon Martin, as the Nuggets appear poised to move in a different direction.
The direction Hamilton moved is not something he was probably happy about. The former Texas forward was looking like a lock to be selected in the teens and as he slipped down the draft board his value rose. The Nuggets are taking a chance on Hamilton. Take Tomasson's Tweet for instance after getting off the phone with him:
christomasson Chris TomassonJust talked to Jordan Hamilton. He said believes reason he slipped in draft was because coach Rick Barnes told teams he wasn’t 'coachable'.
I like the fact that the scoring forward, who said he is a better rebounder because he played center on teams as a youngster, will be heading to Denver with a large chip on his shoulder. Whether his shot selection or coach bad mouthing him caused him to drop, the fact that he'll be hungry to prove doubters wrong bodes well for George Karl and the rest of the staff.
Karl got a present on draft night as well. It's a well-known fact that Karl is a big fan of Andre Miller and his re-addition to the team will be comforting to the coach and Miller can probably teach Lawson a thing or two before his time in Denver is up. I expect the Nuggets to keep Miller and they will likely pick up his team option of $7.8 million for the upcoming season (if the Blazers haven't already picked that up).
The big question is: will Miller be asked to come off the bench or will he be given the chance to start? It's hard for me to imagine the Nuggets putting Lawson back on the bench, but Miller warrants at least the opportunity to do what he does best - start. Should be an interesting training camp.
Ujiri and the rest of the Denver front office has given the team some nice ingredients. The Nuggets and Ujiri were big winners tonight.
Andrew Feinstein's take on the night's events:
For the first time since 2002 - when the Nuggets astutely traded Antonio McDyess and the 25th overall pick (Frank Williams) to the New York Knicks for the seventh overall pick (Nene) and Marcus Camby - the Nuggets were proactively engaged in an NBA Draft. And based on the initial reaction among the fans and those in the local media who cover the team, the Nuggets immediately bettered themselves while protecting their backside should Kenyon Martin, J.R. Smith and/or Wilson Chandler not re-sign in Denver.Even though he gave a hard-fought, yeoman's effort nightly in a Nuggets' uniform, Raymond Felton had to be traded. Maybe not tonight, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually there was no future for Felton as long as Masai Ujiri, Josh Kroenke and George Karl are enamored with having Ty Lawson start at point guard (an affection for Lawson I don't share, but understand). For the most part upon arriving in Denver from New York last season, Felton kept his mouth shut about not being a starting point guard in Denver. But on multiple occasions his real thoughts became known, and were confirmed tonight byFox 31's Josina Anderson who caught up with Felton during draft night and got the point guard on record saying: "They [the Nuggets] knew how I felt through my agent."But while I assumed Felton would be traded, I never envisioned him being dealt for Andre Miller; the former Nugget and a favorite of head coach George Karl. Miller is 36 years old - ancient for an NBA point guard not named Steve Nash, Jason Kidd or John Stockton - but with just one year left on his contract the Nuggets should get one good season out of Miller, especially with Lawson able to log heavy minutes. And normally I'd be concerned about an older player being adversely affected by a prolonged lockout, but Miller never conditions in the offseason anyway so it shouldn't matter.The most intriguing part of the 2011 NBA Draft for Denver, of course, are the acquisitions of Kenneth Faried (22nd overall pick) and Jordan Hamilton (26th). With Faried and Hamilton, not only do the Nuggets get an injection of new blood and energy on the defensive and offensive side of the basketball, respectively, but they are hedging themselves should Martin (likely), Smith (likely) and Chandler (50/50) not return. Like many fans, I'm much higher on Faried than I am on Hamilton. As FM102.3 The Ticket's Chad Andrus said to me in the Nuggets media lounge tonight, Faried is one of the few players in the 2011 NBA Draft that can step into an NBA game and perform on Day One because of his tenacious rebounding and defense. I couldn't agree more.Hamilton, on the other hand, comes with more question marks. How was this guy projected to be drafted in the teens and yet end up getting drafted 26th? What spooked other general managers and not Ujiri? Is he perhaps "uncoachable," as Chris Tomasson reported Texas head coach Rick Barnes to be saying about his own player? I suppose these questions will be answered if/when the NBA season gets started and if/when Hamilton finds playing time in Karl's lineup...a lineup not typically favorable for rookies who didn't play at North Carolina.Regardless of how things eventually wind up for Denver with Miller coming back and Faried and Hamilton coming on board, Ujiri and the Nuggets should be applauded for being aggressive, solving the Felton problem and putting the Nuggets in position to remain deep at point guard while improving their rebounding dramatically. If it weren't for that goddamn lockout that appears to be inevitable, I'd be a lot more excited tonight.
Conference call with Kenneth Faried:
He's happy to be a Denver Nugget and thought he might end up in Denver. And when asked if he can come in and play right away Faried said, "I think I can make an immediate impact. ...(with his) hustle and toughness."
When asked about what number he plans to wear for the Nuggets Faried said, "I'm going to stay with 35." He has worn 35 since high school and expects it to be retired at Morehead State as it has already been retired at his high school.
When he was asked if the biggest month of his life was happening now - as he recently graduated and got drafted within the past month - he declined. He said the biggest month in his young life was when daughter was born. A very classy response and shows he's not thinking of himself.
When asked if his rebounding skills would translate to the NBA game and why it would continue to be a strength of his game Faried said, "(Because) I'm not scared. ...I have a never quit attitude."
The young man is very well spoken and sounds very excited to be starting his professional career in Denver. The Newark, NJ native was cheered loudly at the draft (in Newark) when his name was called and I think he'll receive an even more vocal welcome in Denver when he makes his Nuggets debut.
Late addition to the team:
Towards the end of the Josh Kroenke and Masai Ujiri press conference at Pepsi Center last night, the two got word that another trade had become official. The Nuggets sent a future 2nd round pick to the Los Angeles Lakers for power forward prospect Chukwudiebere Maduabum, who Masai referred to as "Chu Chu" to the media on hand. He's a 6'9'' and 210 lb. prospect from Nigeria. He's just 20 years old and actually shares my March 19th birthday (has to be good news!). Ujiri likes Chu Chu's athleticism and I think the Nuggets will likely store him overseas or in the D-League to get some seasoning.
Your newest Nuggets:
Andre Miller - coming over from Portland to re-join the Nuggets.
Kenneth Faried - the No. 22 pick in this year's draft.
Jordan Hamilton - the No. 26 pick in this year's draft, comes to the Nuggets via the Dallas Mavericks.
Chu Chu Maduabum - the No. 56 pick in this year's draft.
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Ujiri is the Man!
First NY and now Portland!
JR sign somewhere else, so we can get a guy who is not so Bi-polar.
Trade Chandler and Felton for another shooter.
he is always one step ahead of the game.
Not bad for a guy who has only been a GM for a year.
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Welcome back Andre Miller!
Logic is only the beginning of wisdom.
I like the "Chu Chu" pick
Even though I have no idea who he is. I like it simply for the fact that Ujiri was a scout in Africa if I’m not mistaken (for the Raptors) and I’d be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he might know a thing or two about this kid that perhaps some other teams might not… could he be a steal? I’m optimistic!
I like any draft when we get a Chu Chu in the second round
Love it!
If I can spend the next 10 years yelling Chu Chu at the top of my lungs during Nugs games I will die a happy man.
I was hoping the Lakers referenced the Simpsons when they picked him up for Denver
“With the ____ pick, we choo-choo-choooooose…the Chu Chu!”
DRAFT PURDUE POWER FORWARD!!! THERE IS NO OTHER!!!
by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 24, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
we won't know until we see how faried and hamilton turn out
also doesn’t miller hate denver. Is he cool with this?
From Twitter:
@christomasson Chris Tomasson
Nuggets officials say Andre Miller has indicated would have no problems coming off the bench to backup Ty Lawson Felton not happy as backup.
Looks like he’s okay with it.
Tommasson report
Nuggets officials say Andre Miller has indicated would have no problems coming off the bench to backup Ty Lawson Felton not happy as backup.
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Welcome back Andre Miller!
Logic is only the beginning of wisdom.
Felton was more saying whatever happens, happens.
You could tell right from the start that he wanted to start.
being traded, and the fact he rips on us when he plays against us?
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Welcome back Andre Miller!
Logic is only the beginning of wisdom.
I didn't say he hated us
It was just what I’d assume if he did hate Denver. He was my favorite player when he played here, I play just like him on the court, and yes I dribble for a long time and can’t shoot 3 pointers.
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Welcome back Andre Miller!
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I'm just curious where the hate thing comes from
I think Jeff mentioned it and some others. I always thought he liked his time in Denver and I know the fans liked him
He had a strong disliking for the Nuggets
Not the city of Denver. He still has a home here.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 24, 2011 12:54 AM MDT up reply actions
He didn't like being tossed for AI
If I remember, it left a very bad taste in his mouth. Hopefully, he is over it and still have some game in his tank.
He doesn't like getting traded. Period.
He often lights up Philadelphia as well, although that may be more attributed to their subpar PG defense than anything else
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yes!!!
Also, he’s the exact opposite of Ty… Big guy, likes to post up and run the half court, we’re gonna give other teams fits with the versatilty in our backcourt
exactly
I mean, the guy has over 7,000 career assists, he is a much better veteran presence in the locker room compared to Al Harrington.
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Welcome back Andre Miller!
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if he really is okay with coming off the bench
Than we made out like bandits. Andre Miller is way better than any of this years FA point guards
Masai indicated Miller wants to win.
Seemed to hint he’ll be fine in Denver coming off the bench. Also, Miller lives in Denver during the off-season.
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by Nate Timmons on Jun 24, 2011 12:32 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm really surprised
I don’t run into all the players that have homes here in the offseason. Denver isn’t as big as most people think ha ha
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by KevinAwesome on Jun 24, 2011 2:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Miller is a pretty private person, but ya I would think folks would see him around.
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by Nate Timmons on Jun 24, 2011 7:02 AM MDT up reply actions
The tipping thing at delis is always a tough call. Can’t blame him for the no tip, maybe the counter guy was a jerk? Ya never know…
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by Nate Timmons on Jun 24, 2011 7:42 AM MDT up reply actions
yea
It can be a tough call I guess, but being in the service industry myself I always go by the rule “if there’s a tip cup, use it!” but that’s just me….
being a veteran of the service industry myself
I always go by the rule " if there’s a tip cup, use it!" unless the person behind the counter is extremely unpleasant …. but that’s just my philosophy
What about on takeout
when I call ahead and just pick up chinese? I always tip, but I’m never sure if I need to on take out.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions
What about take out?
when I call ahead and just pick up chinese? I always tip, but I’m never sure if I need to on take out.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks
I usually do 20% on everything. I have a good friend who cuts hair for a living. I know how important tips are in those jobs. An extra couple of bucks from each person really adds up.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
I don't like how tipping has become expected
It’s supposed to be a littl eextra for going above and beyond, not for just doing your job. Thats what a wage is for.
I spent a long time working in restaurants and managing a pizza shop so I know how it goes, but I would never expect a tip from someone simply for doing what I’m paid for
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The problem is because the wages have been so supressed
tipping is part of the salary in those fields now. I know I tip more than I probably should but my level of tipping does vary based on service.
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Exactly wrong
Servers are paid below the federal minimum wage because tipping is expected. If you are unable to tip properly, go to McDonalds. Those people need tips just to make halfway acceptable money.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions
I know servers make less
The tip credit in the states is $3.02. Think about it though. All that does is cheapen the prices on the menu. Restaurant owners can make the prices lower on their food and beverages because thier labor cost is lower, so really you’re not tipping at all, just making up the labor difference and allowing for better marketing on the menu
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Exactly right!
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by HockeyHippie on Jun 28, 2011 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions
rec'd for the mr pink gif...fucking awesome.
by calvin brodus on Jun 24, 2011 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was super nice
Excellent reference.
by GoldenNugget on Jun 24, 2011 8:10 PM MDT up reply actions
How do tip at a place like Illegal Pete's?
I usually just tip a buck (The Stoners usually wrap the burrito wrong and it leaks).
Speaking of, if they tortillas were square shaped (instead of round) I think they would be able to wrap that much better.
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A buck from me too. seems reasonable on a $6 burrito.
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by love4nuggets on Jun 24, 2011 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions
NO SOUP FOR YOU!
yada, yada, yada
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
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Well he did. And he killed us every time we played him afterwards.
He sparked the Blazers back into the game right after the trade last year to put Portland in a position to have Roy and Fernandez pull 3 pointers out of their ass.
If he could teach Ty his alley-oop pass skills, we’ll be happy fans for a while. Nobody throws the oop like Miller.
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Also, his contract:
We could always not pick up the contract (unlikely), Or, if we pick it up, it becomes a 7.5 M expiring, which could be lucrative tradebait to any teams who are trying to reduce salary because of the new CBA, which is likely to be unfavorable to teams with high payroll.
Basically, look for the Nuggets, who could be pretty far under, to fleece some rich teams of some talent in exchange for salary come mid-season next year, assuming of course there is a season.
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by George Karl Marx on Jun 24, 2011 12:13 AM MDT reply actions
YEah
It would be smart to pick it up either way. I wouldn’t want to see him packing, but his expiring mixed with some other of our contracts could be enticing.
by GoldenNugget on Jun 24, 2011 2:39 AM MDT up reply actions
More Tomasson tweets
Masai Ujiri optimistic on keeping Nene with Nuggets: "We’ve been having good talks and we’re making good progress. I think Nene is excited.’
Josh Kroenke also optimistic on keeping Nene: "Nene is a player that we want here for a long time… He’s a big part of our future.’’
Nuggets officials are meeting regularly with Nene and his agent Dan Fegan Deadline is June 30 to sign extension. Nuggets optimistic about it
Masai Ujiri speaks optimistically on re-signing JRSmith-‘We’ll see how it goes..JR is a big part of our program..I think it’s very positive’
sweet news about JR!
if we get all of our restricted free agents too, we’ll be deep as hell
pg-ty/miller/Jr
sg-Afflalo/Jr/Forbes
Sf-Gallo/Chandler/ hamilton
pf-nene/Fared/harrington
C-Mozgov/birdman/ koufas
14 man roster
I don’t know if we would be able to keep all of them.
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Welcome back Andre Miller!
Logic is only the beginning of wisdom.
but remember the last time there was an aging halfcourt defender with over 7,00 assists/ young speedster
they won the championship.
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Welcome back Andre Miller!
Logic is only the beginning of wisdom.
I don't want to keep them all.
I wouldn’t miss Al Harrington or Gary Forbes. Both had flashes of brilliance, but, alas, they weren’t that good.
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nobody wants either of those garbage players
and we aren’t going to cut them, so we’re stuck with them
by Truth Speaker on Jun 24, 2011 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions
depth isnt everything
no team wants to have a 14 man rotation. i think we got in trouble last season with too much depth. players need minutes. and other players need specific roles. how do we work the rotations so that our main players get enough time on the court?
We got Faried
I’m so happy about that!
That we have a great backup PG in Andre Miller is just GRAVY.
What’s up stiffs? This is great news. Well done Ujiri!
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I don't get it
Why is a bad idea to pay someone $7.5M to play off the bench but OK to pay someone else $7.8M to do the same?
Julian from Australia
I'm not sure what point you are making
But the big difference between Miller and Felton is that Felton has indicated that he could not be cool coming off the bench. Miller said it’s all good.
So. All things being equal, I’d take a happy locker room over pouting, etc.
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Just being facetious (although I guess semi-serious)
A lot of talk recently has been that it would be stupid to pay your back-up PG that much money, so we trade him for one who will get more.
Even if he is happy to play off the bench, it still has to be stupid.
Julian from Australia
It's a good point
About the money. But PG is probably the most important position and Miller is a known talent with Karl and the rest of the organization. He’s a great passer and pushes the pace and is pretty good about not looking for his own shot, but he can have his moments.
I’m one with it. But if we lose some of our RFAs, I might be more on board with your quibble about the money.
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I'll agree with you
I was thinking the same thing. Everybody was worried about paying a 28 year old that much to come off the bench but now everybody is estatic about paying a 36 year old to do the same. What happened to some sort of deal for Felton For a lottery pick? And why didn’t somebody take Al’s salary or something? Hahaha dreaming I know
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 24, 2011 7:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Ujiri said the Nuggets were “very aggressive” in trying to trade into the lottery, but that they couldn’t control the other side (meaning teams turning down deals).
It’s obvious that this is Lawson’s team for the future and Miller will serve as a trusted veteran guy who the team can lean on for awhile when need be. I think it was a very smart trade by the Nuggets and if Jordan Hamilton pans out the way the Nuggets hope – it might be a great trade. Remember, Hamilton possesses lottery type talent, so while the Nuggets didn’t get into the lotto they got a lotto talented guy.
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by Nate Timmons on Jun 24, 2011 7:45 AM MDT up reply actions
Good News about Nene
Starting five? Will Karl Relent in putting Nene at the center spot if he re-signs?
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 24, 2011 12:57 AM MDT reply actions
Isn't it more about whether Kenyon comes back?
I’d like to have him. Let Faried season a bit as a rookie and bring him along.
I dunno. I know K-Mart’s last contract sucked from a money POV, but I think he is (was?) the soul of this squad.
Haven’t been paying attention. He may be on the outs. I dunno.
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Hey I'm with you
I actually like Kmart quite a bit. If you get to know him in person he so much different from his on court persona.
That being said….I’m not sure he would take what the Nuggets would offer at this point. I think he’d take less to be on a championship contending team…but one that’s mid-rebuild? Not so sure.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 24, 2011 1:09 AM MDT up reply actions
But it sure would be nice for Fared
To learn the ropes of being a banger from one of the best in K-Mart… I’m crossing my fingers we can keep him around at least another season and would be proud of my team if they wound up keeping him here until retirement…
I think it's going to be Dallas
He wants to be on a contender, and he’s from there. And he has sent messages about playing there. Denver would have to overpay to keep him, and we’ve already done that.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Miami
needs help at PG and C. They’ll use their midlevel (if there is one) on one of those positions. Which rules out kmart unless he wants to sign for the minimum. Based on his complaints about not getting enough money from Denver, I doubt it.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions
they got
COle at pg now,
and what C’s are out there they can afford? i dont see many, a banger like kenyon wld be much better to counter bosh softness, plus keeps a good Lebron defender off a competator (dallas)
They aren't counting
on a rookie late first round pick in a very poor draft to contribute much. They still need two starters at positions not PF.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
i mean
i agree they need a C. but who is out there, sammy D – too expensive, who else.
Yo, It's King James
They are relying on James’ interpersonal skills to recruit some players for below market contracts!
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions
love the miller pickup, makes total sense
but, clearly the big question is how the inevitable lawson/miller crunch time duo is going to fare. Both need the ball and it makes no sense for them to be on the court together, but such things do not concern GK.
by Rainbow skyline on Jun 24, 2011 1:12 AM MDT reply actions
Yeah
I do agree with this.
I like the 2PG set sometimes. But not closing time. One or the other but not both.
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at least Miller won't be a liability if he has to defend a shooting guard because of his height.
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Welcome back Andre Miller!
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Faried reminds me of a very young Ben Wallace as well
Except more polished, I think he can definitley be the next Ben Wallace (in his prime) and even more if he works hard on his offense.
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Welcome back Andre Miller!
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It's so hard to interpret tweets sometimes. This could mean a thousand different things
TyLawson3 ty lawson
Smh.. Back to reality and old mindset
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Half the stuff Chandler tweets makes me think he’s from Mars.
by GoldenNugget on Jun 24, 2011 2:41 AM MDT up reply actions
I unfollowed Chandler
Dude is kind of bonkers on social media.
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by KevinAwesome on Jun 24, 2011 3:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Probably can't party with the kardashians anymore
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Why would Ty post that he's shaking his head?
He basically just got officially green-lighted as the starting PG of the future! Is that a Ty tweet for real? I’m confused.
Maybe it has nothing to with basketball and everything to do with something off the court?
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 24, 2011 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions
This is why trying to follow any athlete on twitter
tells us very little
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Yup
It’s even worse than trying to determine sarcasm in a forum or chat
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 24, 2011 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Are you a celtics fan now?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Haha, finally added a signature...and now I should probably change it
But I’m too nostalgic (and lazy)
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 24, 2011 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions
I told you something special was gonna happen
Remember when I said, I have a feeling? I knew it. Masai is the type of GM that works the draft. Plan on this becoming a regular exercise every June.
I think Hamilton dropped because of a mix of shot selection, other risers, athleticism and rumors of him being uncoachable, but there’s no way he should have dropped to us.
We should pick up Andre’s option. He’d be a great mentor of Ty and would be perfect for the illogical two point guard lineup Karl obsesses over. K-Mart and J.R. should be gone.
Overall, the best draft I’ve ever been a part of in any sport. It was a rollercoaster ride from beginning to end. I will always remember this day, and I know that years down the road all Nuggets fans will too. Faried is gonna be a beast and Hamilton will be as solid 6th man as any.
Also
Faried-Balkman comparisons are criminal and the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Call me the next time Balkman breaks Tim Duncan’s record for most rebouds in NCAA history.
by GoldenNugget on Jun 24, 2011 2:42 AM MDT up reply actions
I think it's because they're two African-American men with dreadlocks...
As if that warrants a comparison.
It doesn't.....
but it happens all of the time with white guys only being compared to white guys, Europeans only be compared to Europeans, and so on.
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so true.
are you from the island of bonaire by chance?
He's compared to Balkman because both are hustle guys who can't score
Balkman is not horrible…it is just that he has smoked so much weed he can no longer hustle or focus. I’m not worried about that with Faried.
No..
….My favorite place to dive and I was married there.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Congrats to Masai !!
Luck and and skill have come together. Faried is a solid pick and the kind of player GK loves.
Never expected Hamilton to drop to 26, and just think of all the dots Masai had to connect to improvise that variation on the Felton trade. Really heads up work, although Hamilton may be the kind of player GK loves to bench.
GN will recall that I was hoping for Tyler and Jenkins. Well it happened, but In Golden State! And they may end up looking very smart after getting those guys at 39 and 44 respectively. Not ideal for Jenkins behind Ellis, Curry, Williams and now Klay Thompson, but Tyler should play.
Monta Ellis is probably on his way out
Suitable replacement for JR? HMMM? ha ha
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by KevinAwesome on Jun 24, 2011 4:23 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm done with JR
I blame both Karl and JR, but if Karl was the only knucklehead, JR would be a star by now. A divorce is necessary, and I hope JR ends up in the EC.
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He will be a Bull
I’m a HUGE Swish fan as many know but deserves better then Karl. Coach T will be able to deal with him because he and Rose are a perfect backcourt pairing. Rose wont get tripled with JR out there next to him
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Jun 24, 2011 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Coach T demands defense.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
exactly T gives direction, Karl just shrugs his shoulders and face palms
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Jun 24, 2011 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't see other coaches on more succesful teams giving him anymore room for error
I’d actually wager that JR will have a shorter leash on these teams that have developed discipline. margabelle is right, it’s a two sided issue with Karl and JR, both have some right and both have some wrong. JR was too hyped based off athletic talent but in the NBA there is so much more than atheltic talent, you need to acquire fundamental skills. JR should have went to college for a few years and developed those. I’m fine with the player he is and would like to re-sign him but don’t expect him to become an all-star after so many years in the league(and the Nuggets have shown the most faith in him btw).
Chicago bulls have a salary of 60M next year for 10 players
so it would be difficult to sign JR… but he would be a great fit for bulls
yea im curious where he goes if he doesnt stay
minny cld make an offer but i doubt he accepts
cle cld,
atl cld if they lose jamal,
cha (he seems like an athletic freak MJ wld want, but i dont think Cho wld),
mil?(just dropped a penny on Sjax),
nola? (wld they want him back?, can they even spend money, when are they moving to KC?, … now im depressed),
orl (dont think they have money, but they need an athletic slasher, i guess that’s supposed to be arenas),
pho (think they prefer character guys),
was (if young goes in rfa, jrs a better than young, and can shoot from distance which they need),
sac (they seem to like unnecessary 2 guards, haha)
LAC (gordan, but can he stay healthy, and who is the 6th man)
re-sign den (makes a lot of sense, but denver has choices to make $ wise and Jr isnt first priority)
out of those, i see Was as a very very strong contendor for Jr. (wall, big city, good role, but real young and he prob wants to win)
Then probably Den (he wants to win, has a place, home, etc. )
Cle (they cld use a guy like him, wld he want to be part of a bare cupboards rebuild?)
Atl (if Jamal goes, Jr wld make a ton of sense)
SA, BOS, LAL
if they could find a way to sign him. I think JR would do best to go to a team with a proven track record in their coach and veterans. A team he knows won’t put up with his crap and if he goes by their mantra then he will have a good chance at being part of something special
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Got to love it
Excellent job. All I had wanted and been saying was for the Nuggets to draft a pf or c and find someway to replace Felton other than in free agency. I said there was no need to draft a wing because of the free agent market for wings. Yet somehow Masai managed to meet both of my demands and still land a wing in the draft. Touche Mr. Ujiri, touche
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Kenneth Faried- Undersized Power Forward that dominated rebounding in the Ohio Valley
Jordan Hamilton- Jump shooting chucker with some character concerns but also with potential
Andre Miller- 36 Year old Journeyman point guard who once scored 52 in a game, good player but again he is 36
Lost
Raymond Felton- Player who was having one of his best seasons as of last year
Remind me again why this is one of the best drafts ever? I guess I am not trying to be the Negative Nancy around here, but I don’t exactly see why everybody is so pumped. I like Faried, but again he is 6’8". I have no doubt he can rebound in the NBA, but the dude couldn’t score against guys his own height in the Ohio Valley, let alone when hes going up against Bynum and Gasol. Hes like a more agressive Sheldon Williams.
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we don't need him to score
we need him to rebound which you already concede he can do.
sometimes after he rebounds
he kinda has to be able to score
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 24, 2011 8:02 AM MDT up reply actions
for 3 seasons with the Bulls Dennis Rodman averaged
5.5, 5.7. and 4.3 ppg respectively.Yet those same seasons he averaged 14.9, 16.1, and 15 rpg respectively. You don’t HAVE to shoot it every time you rebound. He could also tip it in or be the recipient of alley-oops from andre miller.
Oh for sure
I am pretty sure he is athletic enough to dunk it, I am just saying sometimes you have to be able to score.
I am excited about Faried, I think he was probably one of the better available at that point so I’ll take him. He looked good against Louisville and other teams so we will see what he can do. I just don’t see the jumping up and down for joy in this draft. Its more like mehhhh to me
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 24, 2011 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions
I think so much of it has to do with us being accustomed to the Nuggets trading away their picks. For so many years our roster was virtually the same minus a small insignificant trade. But with Melo gone, and Kmart and JR likely gone, it gives us a chance to think about new players coming in and shaking things up. I think that explains the overall excitement.
Thats probably a good way to put it
I mean we have had one relevant draft pick, Ty Lawson, since Melo. All other years it was nothing.
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 24, 2011 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Nope sure wasn't
I forgot even…I just remember him kinda being ours because I felt it was so predictable we were going to get him
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 24, 2011 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions
yea
not sure what everyone is so excited about… draft picks outside the top ten RARELY pan out… like one in ten maybe… and we gave up a good trading piece in Felton to get an old, garbage PG in Miller just to pick up what will be a worthless draft pick. Horrible trade, horrible draft. At least Stingy Stan didn’t sell off all the draft picks this time I guess.
by Truth Speaker on Jun 24, 2011 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions
You do provide a certain level of levelheadedness.
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by Nate Timmons on Jun 24, 2011 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions
yeah, they got decent vaIue for where they picked, probabIy couId have got more vaIue for feIton too.
fack gonna have to watch miIIer and ty pIaying in the crunch aII season UGH.
Fleton's value was limited
Only one year left on contract…basically a rental…and he can’t shoot. Neither can Miller…but he won’t be that guy chucking in crunch time…hopefully, he won’t whine….and we got Hamilton. A pretty good haul for Felton.
He'll be the guy dribbling around in crunch time and then chucking it up
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yeah he'II just be that guy standin around not spacin the fIoor, and not effectiveIy guarding taIIer sgs on defense.
we couId have got odom, which is way more vaIue.
If I remember, Andrea is pretty good at crunch time
Can drive and hits FT if necessary.
With any luck, he will not be on the floor at the end of games. Ty is the guy now. Andre it s 20-25 minute player now…who can pass the ball and play D on biger guards if necessary.
Alley-oops are like fast break points
they disappear in the playoffs.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Go big or go home!
amirite?
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what if you want to go big
and then go home?
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 24, 2011 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions
For the nuggets lately
it’s mostly talk big and go home.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd rather go home
and then go big…if you know what I mean….
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by SDcat09 on Jun 24, 2011 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not talkin' bout BiggieSmallz
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That sounds....scandalous
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
Miller can shoot the 10-15 footer, can drive
and can dish out assists. He scored over 50 last season. What’s his FT percentage? Didn’t Felton kill us in that category after the trade?
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
Everyone killed us in that category.
Except for Bird.
/sigh
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Dre is a 88% career FT shooter
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Jun 24, 2011 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions
There you go. We'd have beat OKC if we had that kind of FT percentage
(or at least made it to game 7) from our PG.
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1 in 10 pan out
Thats still 2 picks from 11-30. Guess what? We got 2 picks from 11-30.
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by Army of Nugs on Jun 24, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Actually
According to this article there are an average of 8 non-lottery picks per draft that end up panning out. Faried will have a longer career and more of an immediate impact than 10 guys drafted in front of him.
The Felton trade wasn’t about basketball, it was about people. We couldn’t have Felton screwing up the locker room with his bitching about playing time and not starting, so we shipped him to Portland for Andre Miller who both knows our system and is at a point in his career where he’s willing to sacrifice minutes to win games. We also picked up Jordan Hamilton in that deal, who has talent 10-15 picks better than where he was taken.
Small correction, but Dre won't be 36 until March
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 24, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Fantastic draft.
Farried alone is excellent. Hamilton is a gamble worth taking. Gamble based on whether he’s coachable or not.
KMart is gone. He should go to Miami.
JR should be gone. I know a lot of people love him, but he’s not a guy that can have one season without causing turmoil. I think he’s gone.
Chandler is likely gone too.
The new CBA will impact more than anyone can imagine. Nene will get a bulk of the available cash.
Lawson/Miller
AA/Forbes
Gallo/Hamilton
Nene/Faried/Anderson
Mozgov/Koufas
That’s the team we should expect whenever they play again.
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by Orange and Blue on Jun 24, 2011 8:19 AM MDT reply actions
If the Nuggets lose K-Mart, Chandler and J.R. that’ll be a big blow to the team. Kenyon and J.R. were a big part of the team and the identity of the WCFs team will be pretty much gone. I would like to see Denver turn Chandler and/or J.R. into some assets if they can – losing them for nothing in return would be hard to swallow.
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by Nate Timmons on Jun 24, 2011 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions
It will be interesting if Bird and Faried are ever on the floor at the same time.
That’s a no scoring combination with lots of boards and blocks.
Chandler is the only one where they could get something
via sign and trade. Kmart and J.R. are just gone.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions
Chad Ford's draft grade for the Nuggets: B
Analysis: The Nuggets had a busy night. Not only did they trade Raymond Felton for Andre Miller, but they ended up with three draft picks.
“I won’t factor the Felton/Miller trade into their draft grade. (I’ll let John Hollinger pick that one apart.) But I love Kenneth Faried. He’s got great energy and can really rebound the basketball. Faried probably won’t be a star — he may not even be a starter. But given his relentless enthusiasm for playing defense, it’s hard to see how he doesn’t stick in the league.
Jordan Hamilton is a bit harder to fathom. I like the value. But on a team with Danilo Gallinari and most likely Wilson Chandler, a restricted free agent this summer, I’m not sure how he ever gets into the game. As for Chukwudiebere Maduabum … he’s a big-time project."
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Somebody has to play 2-guard
and it might just be Wilson Chandler (our smallest of three small forwards) who ends up playing the two behind Afflalo if JR Smith takes off. It seems like Ujiri & Kroenke are just working to give themselves and George Karl as many options as possible going into the New NBA next (or next, next) season.
They’ve done exactly that, and are supremely positioned to pick up a bargain shooting guard via free agency while everybody else struggles to find cap space for their existing team. And I don’t see them picking up the team option for Andre Miller’s $7.5 million 2011-2012 salary by July 30th. They may sign him to a lesser deal, but I can’t imagine Miller is exactly stoked to play for the team that dumped him in favor of Allen Iverson’s worthless ass even if it is under new management.
by Ian E Cerveny on Jun 24, 2011 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions
reports are
that the nuggs have talked with Miller and that he will be happy to backup Ty. I don’t think anger over the trade is an issue.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions
hope you're right
and hope they can work out a contract that suits all parties. The key is flexibility going into CBA mayhem and subsequent hard cap(?) Whatever happens, the Nuggets are in good hands with a lot of different options for building their team of the future
by Ian E Cerveny on Jun 24, 2011 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Remember, Andre lives in Denver in the off season...so he likes it here
Even if he didn’t like that decision.
Water under the bridge.
Perdue Power Forward?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 8:34 AM MDT reply actions
since both those Purdue players got drafted by the Celtics
maybe that dude will become a celtics fan and leave us alone…one can wish.
Pretty sure I read rockridge say something to that affect last night
Still a nuggets fan, but going to follow the C’s now
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 24, 2011 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions
Welcome back, Andre!! I seriously missed you.
You’re tough, crafty and in my opinion, one of the best alley-oop passers in the league. High-flyers be ready! (Anybody remember what a livin’ Melo made as the receiver of a great Andre Miller alley-oop?!)
Who is this MElo
you speak of?
Kmart the protector
by NewEraNugg on Jun 24, 2011 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think we all owe Melo some thanks for the draft picks
his trade allowed us to have:)
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Where have you been?
We had a whole discussion about unicorn spam the other day and you missed it.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions
Oh man.
How did I miss that!!?
/shaking fist
I’ve been hanging at PR and attending to life things.
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Speaking of
I did go the Father’s day Rockies game. My Son’s preschool had a father’s day package (nose bleed + shitty hot dogs). Even the Rockies got worked, at least I got to sit in the actual Purple Row.
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That's cool!
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I heard the weather was bad
my brother in law took his father.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Moving Felton helped us get Hamilton
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 24, 2011 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions
Cant wait
to here the pepsi center announcers and the altitude guys try and say Chukwudiebere Maduabum
His nickname should be
Chuck it like a Mad Bum
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by SDcat09 on Jun 24, 2011 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Of course it does
He can chuck the ball like a mad man.
Come on…his name is ripe for picking of nicknames
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but mad bums really chuck anything
unless you feed them chigga wangs
Well, you come up with something better
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Come on, you guys
chU MAD-U-A-BUM?
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by KevinAwesome on Jun 24, 2011 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Hahahahahaha
yes, love it
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
what do you suppose the chances of
1. The announcer announcing that correctly are
2. The announcer ever announcing that name
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 24, 2011 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions
hollinger PER
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/hollinger/statistics
look whose #1.
we gotta get our hands on Noah Dahlman
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 24, 2011 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions
Felton, the mediocre pg who thought to be steve nash
the mediocre man who thought to be a star.
fuck away felton
well done nuggets management
the pleasure for to not to see anymore felton is huge
+1
He is a choke artist that won’t stop shooting too. Faried and Hamilton are quite the haul in this draft and the Nugs added a point guard with a different pace than Lawson. This was a hell of a draft night.
I liked Felton, but he had what I call Kyle Orton syndrome
Traded for a better, popular player, wanted to start, impeded the development of a fan favorite – of course everyone hated him.
It’s too bad.
"I am te real mozgov. Stopp say I fake fans"
by KevinAwesome on Jun 24, 2011 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Amazing how fickle sports fans are
Dude was our hero not too long ago, people around here even wanted to keep him over Ty, and now we’re praising the Lord that he’s gone. Funny.
by GoldenNugget on Jun 24, 2011 8:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow, ya I know what you mean.
I liked having Felton as a backup. He made it known he would rather start, but I didnt see it becoming a distraction last year for the team. Honestly, Felton’s numbers pre trade were better than CB’s, and he was our starter. I would have been fine keeping Felton, and I’m actually a little shocked at the hate that he’s getting on this site. He played hard, had a good attitude on and off the court, and seemed like a competive individual in interviews- which is probably why he wants to start. I dont blame him for that and I wish him luck in Portland (except against the Nuggets). If he was willing to play backup, I would have kept him. But the Nuggets also got some good value for him, I think it was a win-win for everyone involved.
It all boils down to him wanting to start.
And his myriad of turnovers in crunch time in the playoffs.
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by love4nuggets on Jun 25, 2011 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Dre Miller--Staying around?
I really have a problem with his complete inability from 3 point range. But he does everything else very well, such as setting up Oops and driving. Average defender. Has he lost a step at 35? To his credit, one of the most durable players in NBA history.
Jason Kidd, earns his pay in his late 30s as a 3 point clutch shooter who can still pass well. I don’t think Dre will ever learn the 3, with his funky shot.
by Nuggburg on Jun 24, 2011 9:15 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
I am so tired of "Cheap Kroenke"
Once again, we’ve got Kroenke cheaping out on the nuggets. Trading Felton who makes $7 million for Andre Miller who makes $7.8 million next year. Cheap. Could have had Lamar Odom at $8.2 but Kroenke went cheap, as usual.
And drafting two first round picks with guaranteed contracts? Cheap again. They could have packaged those two picks for someone like Rip Hamilton.
And why hasn’t he used that trade exemption from the Anthony trade yet? I’m sure we could get Rashard Lewis or Gilbert Arenas with that. Cheap, cheap, cheap.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 9:32 AM MDT reply actions
yeah stiII dont get why we traded for miIIer, other than for a back up pg, but at 7.8 miI WTF?
may as weII just pay a IittIe more for a reaI difference maker in odom.
again, faried is gonna be a soIid back up in this Ieague, it’s Iike hey guys we just got kris humphris who cant score.
because
we got jordan hamilton out of it. a lotto talent, we wldnt have gotten anything from an odom trade, except a 30+ year old 6th man who cares more about reality tv
This
"I am te real mozgov. Stopp say I fake fans"
by KevinAwesome on Jun 24, 2011 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions
I C WHUT U DED THURR
"I am te real mozgov. Stopp say I fake fans"
by KevinAwesome on Jun 24, 2011 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Hamilton
Only concern is his 32" vertical is about 10 inches less than JR. Not exactly a sky walker.
by Nuggburg on Jun 24, 2011 9:45 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
JR's has popped a 44" vertical--look it up
Those dunks aren’t lucky. JR’s hops can compete with anyone in the league.
by Nuggburg on Jun 24, 2011 10:02 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
urban legend
his draft measuments have him at 35.5. seems unlikely he gained 10" in vertical or that he wldnt jump his highest when trying to get drafted and paid.
now with a running start
he can get up there, but vertical as measured for the draft is standing. or a 1 step drop something like that. his offical results are 35.5", but u see 44" on the web
nbadraft.net
- The reports of J.R. Smith’s 44-inch vertical were greatly exaggerated. Even
Luke Jackson recorded a higher vertical in the Chicago testing. A 35.5-inch
vertical isn’t bad, but it’s not off the charts, either.
NBA official site says 44"
http://www.nba.com/draft2004/profiles/J.R.Smith.html
I agree vertical leap isn’t everything. But I like JR on a breakaway. He can sky.
by Nuggburg on Jun 24, 2011 10:14 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
thats just a write up
no actual numbers, guy probably got it wrong, probably was even a pre-draft measuments write up
Who cares?
He’s a shooting guard…he needs to shoot, defend and not make stupid plays. See, Allen, Ray).
Great night for the Nuggets!
When I first saw the rumored trade of Felton for Miller on ESPN I wasn’t really excited because I didn’t like the idea of giving up a good pg to a another team in the same division. But once I woke up this morning and saw that we also acquired Hamilton I was stoked. The Nuggets FO did really well in this draft if you ask me.
A+ especially when considering the draft position and all the unrestricted/restricted free agents they have.
Rockies Fever!
quite impressed with our results last night
a bit of a logjam at the 3. will be interesting to see how things unfold after a new cba is in place.
i wonder if we’ll go after a 3rd PG in FA? maybe ben hansbrough?
let's go nuggets! who u wit?
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You know who it will be
for the third PG. A.C. Baby!
And I don’t think there will be a logjam at 3. Gallo is the starter, with Hamilton as a reserve if he is ready. Harrington can also play 3. Chandler is probably out of here.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions
ac was the joe willie namath of the knicks
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
the smart thing is just to be smart- chauncey billups
we're on a mission from god
AAA
would like to see him in a rip hamilton type role coming off of screens. esp. w faried setting the screens and either ty or dre feeding him.
let's go nuggets! who u wit?
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Extending Miller
Anyone hear anything about extending Miller? Perhaps an extension for a reduced salary? His salary is non-guaranteed, so perhaps he would be open to 3 years, $15 million.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 10:15 AM MDT reply actions
In 3 years, Miller will be 39....yikes!
One or two year rental at most.
Good point on age
Would you do 2 years/$10 million? Or just play him this year and see what happens?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions
damn u lockout
im so excited to see this team play together already.
let's go nuggets! who u wit?
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Is it just me, or are Moz and Koufus Better Than Any of the Bigs Drafted Last Night?
by ACEIII on Jun 24, 2011 10:43 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
From Woj
an article that is sure to make Throwitdownbigmanthrowitdown’s head explode
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 24, 2011 10:52 AM MDT reply actions
As a general rule
it is my policy not to read WOJ. That article was so ridiculous. The most recent reports are that the NBA is offering guaranteed contracts and a soft cap in the $60 million range. Yep, he’s out to “break the union” alright. If anything, Stern appears to be giving the players everything they want.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions
It will still be a hard cap
but it will be tiered from what I’m seeing. Similar to the NHL with a cap floor.
We all know how thats helped out the Avala-
…nevermind.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 24, 2011 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Players are meeting today....
the press conference they gave yesterday wasn’t encouraging to avoid a lockout. I’ll pass along all the information I can as the day progress (and when I’m not…you know…working)
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 24, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
I have no doubt about the lockout
but some optimism that they will get it resolved before they miss any games, NFL style.
Didn’t you post something the other day about a cap with exemptions for bird rights and other things. Isn’t that a soft cap?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions
I did some reading...and essentially it's the same as the NHL system
which has a “percentage/revenue based team by team cap with few exceptions to exceed” and a hard cap over that. 62 million was the number thrown out there.
The players called the “concession” of guaranteed contracts faux negotiating because they already had guaranteed contracts and it they said you cant get back what you never gave up.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 24, 2011 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Love This Draft!!!
Faried is going to be a beast on the glass and D.. and I for one am higher on Hamilton than most others.. he’s got a major chip on his shoulder after falling the way he did. I watched quite a few of their games last year, kid can flat out play… now I just gotta hope GK actually uses him.
when he played UNC he was infinitely better than Tristan Thompson
who was the #4 pick. Hamilton killed us, and I’ve wanted him for the Nuggets ever since.
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by black_knight101 on Jun 24, 2011 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions
pretty unclassy of Rick Barnes to dog Hamilton
If the rumors are true. He is only 20 years old and was rated much higher than his pick #, what is the point of his college coach trying to affect his future other than sour grapes? Barnes is supposed to be the adult in this situation, and if he had anything to say he could have waited until after the draft. I hate this NCAA double standard where coaches can do and say as they please, get out of commitments and contracts when they see fit, and think they are bigger that they game. Barnes was messing with Hamilton’s livelihood, and stuff like that is why many players don’t stick around more than 2 years.
by jd80229 on Jun 24, 2011 12:31 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
who cares
it got him to fall to us, so im all for rick barnes, if he’d have given a glowing endorsement we never wld ahve gotten hamilton
maybe Masai paid Barnes to say that..lol
So he could fall to us ;) it did cost the kid some $$, but hopefully it does indeed provide him the extra motivation to work hard and be more of a team player to prove the naysayers wrong, if Coach gives him a chance to play like he did with Forbes.
by jd80229 on Jun 24, 2011 12:57 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
When I was in law school
I had a professor who said “grade inflation… of course I participate in grade inflation. My job is to teach you law, make you good lawyers and give you a shot at making a living. If you exhibit competence, learn from me and show up in class, I will give you an A and a glowing recommendation. That is my job.”
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
I guess my point is that any professor, or coach in this matter, who sabotages
a promising young student’s career can eat shit.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
I had an Econ professor like that once
I missed some of the smaller homework-type assignments, but I participated in class, did will on the tests and demonstrated I knew the material, so he gave me an A.
Exactly. Coach Barnes job is to make Hamilton a rich NBA player
Unless Hamilton slept with his wife, I think any badmouthing the coach did is unconscionable.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
Really happy about getting Miller back...
very impressed with our draft selections. Would love to hear more about the kid from Nigeria. Hope this blog can dig up more info on him.
They handed out player bios on Chu Chu last night, sounds like he’s a total prospect with good athletic ability. Not sure he’ll ever make the roster with the Nuggets though.
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by Nate Timmons on Jun 24, 2011 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Heard he's a project.
But it’s a while since we’ve had a developmental player we could keep an eye on.
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He's a punt
not going to show. not going to pay him. don’t have to deal with his agent…punt.
RIP Peter Falk
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 24, 2011 12:35 PM MDT reply actions
AWWWW :(
this makes me sad. I LOVED Columbo
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Countdown to lockout begins
KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
According to #Suns player rep Jared Dudley, players declined to make a counterproposal to owners today. “We’re too far apart,” he said.
and this
KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
At this point, the players expect the owners to vote on a lockout in that Dallas board meeting.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 24, 2011 12:42 PM MDT reply actions
Dallas board meeting is Tuesday
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by Jeffrey Morton on Jun 24, 2011 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions
If it is in Dallas
it has to be bad news. First they shoot Kennedy, now they are killing the NBA.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Is there a grassy knoll nearby?
(I’ve been to said grassy knoll and toured the book repository museum)
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Ralphie Wigman likes the last pick
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Dude...I totally already made that joke
DRAFT PURDUE POWER FORWARD!!! THERE IS NO OTHER!!!
by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 24, 2011 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions
It's like no one reads.......
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Oh well
Perhaps I’m just jealous I never have anything meaningful to add to this blog other than obscure pop-culture references…
DRAFT PURDUE POWER FORWARD!!! THERE IS NO OTHER!!!
by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 24, 2011 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions
This is not true. You have a lot to offer.
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some insight on hamilton
and I can confirm, his demeanor and attitude changed significantly from Fr to Soph year. Much improvement all around (thanks to Artest?!)
“I think my main changes have just been maturity and growth,” Hamilton said. “This year, I’ve really been listening to Coach (Rick Barnes), and what he’s been teaching me.”
The healing process from last year’s results began immediately after the season. Following a freshman year where Hamilton admits that he played selfishly � often jacking up bad shots coming off the bench � made a full apology to the team.
“He wanted us to know that he wasn’t like that,” said senior forward Gary Johnson.
“The last year, the way that things went, the outcome just wasn’t good at all,” Hamilton said. “I thought if I came in with a new attitude, and a new demeanor about myself that our team could be a lot better.”
In another classically mysterious Hamilton move, he spent the summer hanging out with NBA bad boy Ron Artest and says � with a straight face � that the experience helped him mature, both as a person and as a player.
“He really helped me out,” Hamilton said. “He’s a great dude. He told me to be patient.”
He also told Hamilton to take one or two dribbles to get his shot, if need be, and to turn up the defensive volume.
“Those are some of the things that I’ve been doing,” Hamilton said. “And so far, it’s worked out great.”
I think Artest kind of gets a bad rap.
Because of his previous outbursts. Dude is all kinds of weird but I think he’s probably not as bad a person IRL as he comes across. He does a lot of good in the word charities and such. And really BEST postgame interview EVER
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*Metta World Peace
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions
FIFY
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions
What happens when Metta World Peace gets taken out of the game?
Peace out?
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 24, 2011 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions
bwahhahahaha
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Shouldn't it be MetaWorldPeace.
I mean that would be tremendous
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it should be but apparently he cant spell
by jd80229 on Jun 24, 2011 1:19 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
MWP
Is cuckoo crazy, but he is a great defender, rebounds, and scores when needed. The Lakers were all ready to throw him under the bus last year had they lost in the Finals but then he bailed them out in game 7. To think, the Nuggets may have been to the Finals by now had they only not thought Linas Kleiza was more valuable.
by jd80229 on Jun 24, 2011 1:04 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
wasnt that because karI didnt want to mess with the team.
aIso kIeiza did have that game 2 performance against the Iakers, but that was kind of despite karI and thanks to meIo, because he took out AC who was guardin kobe, aIso i saw highIights of the nuggets pIayoff series against OKC on espn, and it was feIton guardin kd…
The Man Formerly Known as Ron Artest
gets a bad rap for sure, some deserved for sure, but his rap is much worse than his bite
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by waterboy31321 on Jun 24, 2011 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey Cat
I think Ron Ron has always gotten what he courted
But I really like the guy. He’s a good guy who has done some bad things.
I’ve known and worked with many similars.
When I treated murderers (therapy) I used to tell surprised friends that I would trust many of them before I would trust many of my respectable friends.
Some very good people have done bad things but Artest really cares and really tries. All I could ask for.
I love the Dre/Felton trade
After Felton bombed it in the playoffs, I don’t think I will miss Felton too much (as all the Portland fans are missing Dre as we speak). Felton was good on the pick and roll (but was horrible at FTs even though he shot 90% in NY), but I really preferred it when we had a change of pace with Billups/Lawson. We are pretty much bringing that back with a PG who can post up. Honestly, I miss a PG who can post up and Miller/Billups were the best at doing it.
Miller ages well, his jumpshot does not rely on a jump and he can still control the pace well. The fact that we also got a potential Paul Pierce out of the deal makes me really excited. Lamar Odom would not have helped us much and he is more of a distraction with that Kardashian show anyway. If the Odom deal went down, we still would need a PG and we would pretty much keep Cheeseburger Harrington’s ass parked on the bench. At least use the man and don’t keep him out of shape more than necessary.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
The only thing I didn't like about the Felton trade
Was that we weren’t able to include Harrington and get his salary off the books. If Ujiri can get rid of Harrington even if we have to give a future draft pick as well, I will be pleased with it.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
we need to start a wager
on if (haha, like it isnt going to happen) there is a lockout, what weight will the hamburgler come back at. no way he keeps himself inshape on his own.
I need to put myself into the "waive/trade Dre Miller" camp.
Simply put, he costs too much money. I admit, the guy has still got some game. After watching J-Kidd this past playoffs, you won’t find me being the one to discount the aging PGs of this league. However, there are a lot of better ways we can find to spend that money.
Just of the free agents this year, we could probably pick up guys like Carlos Arroyo or Sebastian Telfair for a FRACTION of the price, or look at unrestricted free agents like J.J. Barea, Aaron Brooks, Goran Dragic, who may be a little more expensive, but also a little more worth the price.
I just can’t find myself a reason to keep Dre at such a high price. If he’d be willing to let us waive him and re-work his contract for 2 years and 4-6 mil, then I’d be alright with it. But 7mil is a LOT of cap space, especially with the new CBA we have coming up. Plus, an unguaranteed contract is so valuable in the NBA, which I bet the FO considered when trading for him. I have a feeling Ujiri has something more up his sleeve for Dre.
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We'll know shortly
as they have to decide on or before June 29th. They could always move to to a team looking to dump salary.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Very true.
OT: I’ll be in Minnesota from June 27th to July 5. What are the chances they make their Derrick Williams jersey available for sale by then, do you think?
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not good
Just go to one of those “make your own” jersey sites and create it yourself?
by InboundingLobPass on Jun 24, 2011 3:25 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Ehh.
I figure I’ll be there anyway. What about Rubio? Maybe I should pull a Kahn and take a chance on him?
KAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNN
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well Rubio might actually be there
They’ve been waiting for him for years now
by InboundingLobPass on Jun 24, 2011 4:05 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I was thinking about K-Love as well.
Until the whole trade thing came up. I figured they weren’t stupid enough to trade away the one player they can build a team around.
But well, it’s Kahn. I think I’ll buy his jersey just in remembrance of his 30-30 game.
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"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
you don't HAVE to buy a jersey
or do you? if you do go black.
GK loves Miller, he is not going anywhere
Consider him a player coach, like Billups
At some point it shouldn't be about what Coach Karl loves.
It should be what’s best for the team.
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"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
It shouldn't be about GK, but as long as he is in DV...it will be in large part about GK
I was just listening to Masai on the The Fan and he said GK was all about getting Miller back. Loves him.
Also, Portland has always liked Felton, so it was a no brainer.
Might want to tell that to their fans.
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"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
GK loves older, savy PGs that can take the pressure off of him with good decisions
That is Miller in a nutshell. He is smart, a vet and a very good passer. Win, win for GK. Plus, he comes at half the price of Chauncey…which is good for Stan the Man. Andre is staying in DV.
I don’t like Andre as a starting PG, but I do like him as a 20-25 minute back-up at this point.
I like the deal
more so for Hamilton, I’m keen on the point that neither Felton or Miller are long term Nuggets and in the short term I see the two as a wash, but now we have a potential steal. Plus Ray doesn’t want to be here so avoid drama now. And if we dump Miller who do we go for as back up PG?….AC????
I like the potential of Hamilton as well
He could be a very good, tall, shooter…that plays some D.
It's important to remember
as low as the nuggets are drafting here, most likely one of these guys never gets a second contract.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions
I guarantee Faried sticks around
Rebounders and defenders usually have long, if not great, careers. If he has any jumpshot or ability to finish…he will be good. The wild card is clearly Hamilton…but I will take that shot at 26.
I truly believe Hamilton has the potential to be better than anyone we currently have on our roster.
The attitude problems and available minutes are the only thing that concerns me, but if we can get past that, I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up an star a few years down the line.
Just hope he becomes that star while he’s on the Nuggets, not after we give up on him and let him walk or trade him away.
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"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
The good and bad about Miller
First the BAD:
Dre CAN NOT SHOOT A 3 TO SAVE HIS LIFE, therefore as many of you remember teams take 2 steps inside the line, which is why the line got clogged with him here.
Now the Good: He can throw a lob pass better then anyone I have ever seen. Plays good defense, averages around 9 assists a game, and his midrange bank shot is money. Pairing him as Lawson’s backup is smart it’s just the reverse of what Dallas does.
Oh by the way I HATED MILLER WHEN HE WAS HERE BEFORE!!!!!!! But I thinkhe’d be a perfect fit off the bench now.
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Jun 24, 2011 1:47 PM MDT reply actions
Can anyone refresh my memory on what his pace is like?
I’m finding mixed opinions. Some people think he plays a half-court style offense because he’s old and not that quick/athletic, and some people think that he suffered when he got to Portland because all he wanted to do was run, and they were a half-court team.
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Little bit of both
He’s slower then our pace but the blazers pace was snail for him
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Jun 24, 2011 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Miller will push the pace and ball up court
He just does it differently than TY, who will try to out run and outquick everyone, whereas Miller will pass the ball far downcourt after a defensive rebound outlet quicker and as accurate as anyone. If you have Faried in there with his only job is to patrol the paint for rebounds (which we haven’t had in a while) in a better defensive system (Stop Switchin’) they should be able to have more fastbreaks like the pre AI Nuggets.
by jd80229 on Jun 24, 2011 2:16 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It may be false hope
but we can hope that with a training camp to implement, Karl will implement a better defensive “system” than the one used when Melo was here. And Dallas showed than an effective zone can help you win a title.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I would give your GM an A-
I find it hard to believe some team at the end of the draft was lying in wait to snatch up Chu Chu. Could they not have just invited him to camp or something?
Any word on the specifics of that trade? Is it protected? What year is it available?
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Idea is the nuggets own his rights now
He is a rfa as opposed to a ufa.
by Monkfish on Jun 25, 2011 3:00 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Truly blessed are Nuggets fans
for they toil not under the magnificently stupid hand of David Kahn (I’ll just make so many draft-day moves that nobody can tell if I’m doing a good job or not!), Joe Dumars (can we get Arron Afflalo back for a second round pick and… um… Rip Hamilton’s ghost?) or Donnie Walsh (just one more failed draft and we get to see Spike Lee’s head explode at MSG!!)
Instead we get the cunning Masai Ujiri and his new best friend Josh Kroenke working Denver into a perfect post-new-CBA salary position with a slew of talented/tradeable/high upside players. Drinking to Masai tonight!
Maybe Ian
but I do wonder if we arent in the maniacal grip of Emperor Karl. I just dont know.
Karl doesn't make personnel decisions
Remember when they trade Camby, he was against it. Karl can be blamed for the coaching, but not player acquisition.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions
that's true
but karl is still the chef that has to work with the ingredients. I’m just not sure he’s a good chef. Now, I’m hungry again
Better Ingredients
better soup. He’s been trying to make a nice balanced stew with the big, overpowering flavor of Melo crudding up the works for so long. (I’m struggling to find a stew metaphor for bad defensive instincts and wasted possessions but its just not coming to me.) Give Karl the deepest roster in the league and he might even find a way to beat OKC…
by Ian E Cerveny on Jun 24, 2011 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Melo was 'a turd in the stew'.
How’s that metaphor?
(cough) David Lee (cough)
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Masai! Masai! Masai! Masai! Masai! Masai!
Now I’m a believer.
MU knows what he’s doing. This draft went as well as could be hoped for.
1) Addition by addition. Getting Faried is a major coup. He guards against losing Chandler. He also does something that we lacked in playoffs against the Thunder – he’ll go get the rock. You cant do anything if you dont have the ball.
Getting Miller is perfect for this young team. Miller is smart, a wily veteran of 134 seasons, or close to it. Ty just has to be Ty and Miller will help him flower.
2) Addition by subtraction. Felton had to go. He’s got talent but his attitude was cancerous. He thought, and thinks, about himself all the time. I never believed anything positive he said because he would undo it in his next breath. Other than that, he was great!
We have some real prospects here and could go about the business of ridding ourselves of chaff or at least deep benching them. Think, Harrington. And, I love JR, but if he comes back, fine, if not, fine. Too polarizing for my comfort level.
I’m tired of polarizing. I think that Dallas won title because everyone was on the same page. It matters.
We go forward with a very viable core. The core should include Nene, Gallo, Ty, AAA. I also think that Moz, yes Moz, will become our core center. I like the trimmings too → Will (?), Miller, Faried, Koufas, Birdman (?)
Our roster provides us with size, speed, shooting, youth and a bit of moxy. Karl has the difficult task of melding this roster. We’ll see.
by sgiustra on Jun 24, 2011 2:40 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
forgot about hamilton
he was once ranked the 8th best prospect before the “attitude concerns”. With out great developmental staff who knows how good he can be.
agreed....challenge now is up to Karl
He needs some more experience on his coaching bench, even better if they have head coaching experience. Kurt Rambis should be available here shortly, a blue collar guy as a player who could teach the bigs a thing or two
by jd80229 on Jun 24, 2011 2:48 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
sgiustra
1. Faried does not guard against losing Chandler. They play completely different positions, have completely different skillsets, but I agree that he will rebound.
Dre is good, but I think you’re overreacting a little bit on what he’ll be able to bring.
2. Felton didn’t want to be here, but his attitude was nowhere near cancerous. We’ve seen cancerous, in the form of MElo, but Felton obviously made it a point to be classy about not wanting to be here. If you think he was cancerous, you may want to take another look around the league to see what a real cancer looks like.
I feel almost certain at this point that Chandler’s not coming back. I will say this, you better care about Hamilton, because he’ll be our backup SF going into next year. IMO, our core is Nene, Gallo, Ty, AAA, Moz, Hamilton, and if we can afford to keep him a couple years down the line, Faried.
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Hey Agaliarept
Good points. But we’re not that far apart.
I exaggerated with Ray. I could have said he was like a tummy ache. Is that cool? Cancerous is too strong and yes, I did believe that Melo was cancerous an,d no, I will never take that back!
Yeah, Faried and Chandler are different but they could compete or complement with respect to minutes. They are about the same size.
I hope that we keep Will because I really dont get such positive vibes about Hamilton. Then Will could be backup small forward who can also slide to big guard or power forward in a pinch.
But I do believe that if hamilton is a bust, we have enough depth to cover for him. In that case, Hamilton is a luxury.
Hey, ultimately, I hope that Ham is good enough to become part of our core.
I think Al fills
that backup 3/4 roll if Hamilton isn’t ready.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Right.
It’ll be Harrington, not Faried.
So we better hope Al comes back strong. We really need that stretch 4 in our lineup.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 3:23 PM MDT reply actions
You really love frequenting ugliesttattoos.com
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 24, 2011 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions
It is fun
though some of the funniest aren’t safe to share here.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 24, 2011 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I wonder if that leather vested gentleman has ever considered putting in a concave lip plug to double as an ashtray. He’s got a pretty good ash going there.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 24, 2011 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Once draft...
Each rookie wrote what they were feeling on a little white board and took a picture with it. Kyrie and a number of others wrote “blessed” while others wrote things like “happy” and “releved” our very own Kenneth faired wrote “on a mission”…. I love this kid already!
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by stan_26 on Jun 24, 2011 4:44 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Andre Miller cried about coming off the bench in Portland until Nate McMillan made the switch. Imagine what’s going to happen with GK jerking him around. Miller has started 93.5% of the games he’s played in his career, coming off the bench is going to be a difficult adjustment for him just like it was in Portland.
Jordan Hamilton is a slow SF without elite athleticism. I suppose if everything goes right he can end up similar to Wesley Matthews Jr. with an inferiority complex. There’s a reason he tumbled down draft boards.
Kenneth Faried is a one trick pony who will do well to have a career like Reggie Evans has had. Not a bad player at his draft range, but far from an upside selection.
I thought Denver would be able to do a lot more with Raymond Felton. They got much older and less versatile at the position. Andre Miller has 33K+ minutes on those knees, and he’s never been out of the first round of the playoffs. Denver couldn’t get a lottery pick or a swingman to replace JR Smith at least with Felton?
I don’t think Denver necessarily did anything wrong with their picks, Masai did the best he could with what he had in this cruddy draft. But their future still hinges upon their ability to re-sign Nene and field a semblance of the high octane, energetic team that closed the season out so well. Trading Felton for Miller takes two steps back, IMO.
Thanks for stopping by, Justin.
Always wonderful to hear your retarded opinions. Cheers.
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by love4nuggets on Jun 24, 2011 11:11 PM MDT up reply actions
+1
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
We’ll see what happens. I’m sure if you go back to our series the retarded opinions were correct, in retrospect, more often than not.
Nope,
just inflammatory and disrespectful. The makings of a real troll.
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by love4nuggets on Jun 25, 2011 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions
To all you fing trolls
Keep on posting… I makes us Nuggets fans actually realize that Ujiri did good. I love the hate…keep that hate flowing so I keep knowing we did good.
I love you trolls, if you didn’t speak up I would be worried.
Nuggets fans this is a good sign… We fucking cleaned up!!! I love you Ujiri!!!!
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by JR15 on Jun 25, 2011 2:44 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Thanks for the link
Love that jersey
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 26, 2011 12:03 AM MDT up reply actions
Just like Dallas believed in themselves
When no one else would.
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by JR15 on Jun 25, 2011 1:24 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I am delighted, as I said above. Faried will contribute and Hamilton is gravy
but somebody above posted the link below, and I couldn’t help notice that my man Charles Jenkins is number 6 in efficiency according to Hollinger, right above Jimmer. He is bigger, stronger, better defender than Jimmer, with same awesome range and ability to score from anywhere – and he gets drafted n.44. Non capisco!
Faried as most of us know by now is very high
on Hollinger’s college PER board and the last player (Lawson) the Nugs drafted who was high on a college PER board turned out pretty well.
It's a great pick.
A natural Rebounder. A Dennis Rodman minus the crazy. Just what the doctor ordered.
by Nuggburg on Jun 25, 2011 10:43 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
NBA Draft corollary #4
“If your team should draft an offensively challenged forward who is skilled at rebounding, he must be compared to Dennis Rodman”.
Kenneth Faried might be Dennis Rodman minus the crazy; but also minus the once in a generation athletcism, elite defense, and (I’m going out on a limb, here) five rings.
kinda hard to have 5 rings before you play a single game
once in a generation athleticism too, was Jordan not athletic? what about Kobe? Shaq? Barkley? Funny how all those played within a few years of each other.
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by Army of Nugs on Jun 25, 2011 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Dennis Rodman was as singular an athlete as you can find in NBA history, just like Barkley or Shaq. Jordan was not a singular athlete as there were reasonable facsimiles before (Thompson) and since (Kobe, Wade). Rodman was one of the most well conditioned athletes ever to play in the league, one of the best leapers (quickest leapers) and a destructive force defensively against a wide array of opponents.
People seem to forget these things and young fans especially regard his career as ‘the guy who rebounded a lot and wore a dress’. So any good rebounding forward who can’t toss a ball into the ocean = Dennis Rodman. Let’s see Kenneth Faried defend SG’s and C’s in the same game. LOL!
yea like you knew dennis rodman was gonna be a hall of famer when he was drafted.
just admit you have no idea how any of these guys’ careers will turn out and neither do we. stop coming on here acting like you know what’s in store for these guys. you don’t.
Of course we have an idea how these guys will do in the NBA. If we didn’t know, why even have a draft? Why not just assign players randomly? Scouting isn’t a flawless process but most of the time if you pay attention to precedent and know what to look for – you can form an intelligent opinion on a player’s development and future.
I’m fairly certain that Kenneth Faried will not be “Dennis Rodman without the crazy”. Maybe Reggie Evans without the nut grabbing.
Color me jealous of your genius.
Just astounding, really.
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by love4nuggets on Jun 25, 2011 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh wow...didn't realize we were talking to a professional NBA scout
How do you find the time to come post on a rival teams blog I wonder
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
was
rodman really that singular of an athlete, he wasnt a lebron coming out, or a shaq if tested as athletic as them he wldnt have come out late in the 2nd
Rodman was drafted low because he played at a NAIA school.
And, yes, he was that singular of an athlete. He’s one of the very few players in NBA history who could capably defend the best at every position. He defended Jordan, Malone, ‘Nique, Kemp, even some centers later in his career. He never got tired, he was one of the fastest players up and down the court, and had the best second jump I’ve ever seen personally.
Just because a player was drafted low doesn’t mean your team’s low draft pick will be successful. Yes, there are non-lottery draftees that go on to have fine careers – hall of fame careers in some cases. Newsflash!
Scouting is what we’re talking about, and the fact that Faried is nothing like Dennis Rodman athletically.
Faried had more rebounds in college than Duncan.
He seems to have athleticism and passion from the highlights I’ve seen. I expect him to excel on defense and the glass. What he has shown so far will translate to the NBA.
The draft
Was great fun for once.
This whole trade with melo and moves is dependant on Gallo becoming a consistent 22 ppg scorer, imo. We have a good TEAM, but in the playoffs in the nba, you gotta have that guy.
Faried is nice, Hamilton won’t see much time unless Chandler leaves. We gotta resign nene and hope koufos or moz develops. Still a lot to do this off season, including playing basketball next year.
Been in rwanda for a hot minute, good to be back talking basketball while also gaining perspective on where it fits in my life
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by REAPtheThird on Jun 25, 2011 11:08 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Rwanda, wow
How was that?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 25, 2011 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
Tough to explain
Amazingly painful. Spent a lot of time with orphans. Some from the genocide, its a beautiful country with beautiful people. I blogged about it at sweatervestwednesday.com if youre curious.
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by REAPtheThird on Jun 25, 2011 12:01 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I'll check it out.
A trip like that has to remind you how well we have it here. My sirius radio died yesterday, and NPR was the only station coming in on my radio. They had a story, Congo I think, about mass rapes. 180 or so the other day. Apparently a common occurrence.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 25, 2011 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
We have it different
Financially, we have more money. We have poor, they have poverty. We have poor people who are over fed and smoke. They have mud huts.
However, they have joy. Real joy. We just don’t have that en masse here. There’s a sort of emotional and spiritual wealth in rwanda that we just can’t touch.
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by REAPtheThird on Jun 25, 2011 12:20 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
This draft wasn't supposed to take us over the top
What it did do was hedge for the losses of KMart and JR. We did become deeper and I still hope we can somehow re-sign everybody, but the reality is we hedged well for our future.
And yes, Gallo can be a 20 ppg scorer that we want him to be, that was his first playoffs ever and he started heating up as the series went on.
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by JR15 on Jun 25, 2011 12:51 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Great Article on Faried
Kids had a difficult like, but his past seems to fuel him. He is going to become a fan favorite with his attitude and hustle…
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/17/sports/ncaabasketball/17morehead.html?_r=3&partner=rss&emc=rss
Good find and a great read!
This kid just keeps on impressing me with his overall attitude, not just on the court but towards life in general. We have surely found a winner in Kenneth Faried
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by stan_26 on Jun 25, 2011 4:47 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Great draft
The nuggets didn’t get better compared to last year, but when half the team isn’t under contract, I wouldn’t really expect them to. However, they are set up for success in the future.
JR and Kenyon are gone. I want JR to stay, but with GK here it just won’t work. They can’t coexist. Kenyon is old and extremely injury prone. Faried is twice the rebounder Kenyon is and i am guessing less likely to be injured.
Hamilton will be a pretty good Jr replacement IMO. Hamilton is the same size as Joe Johnson, just a wee bit bigger than Jr. Better rebounder than Jr, but slower cause he is more of a sf.
Hamilton, faried and miller>>>JR, Kenyon and Felton. Hamilton and faried are going to make 1/4 of what Jr and Martin would. Miller is as good as Felton, worse than Ty. Miller is okay with letting Lawson have the keys. He provides a completely different look for the 2nd unit. He will need to be replaced soon, but that’s better than Felton walking for nothing this offseason.
by Monkfish on Jun 25, 2011 3:52 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Most improved team from this draft? (other than Cleveland)
I’d have to say GSW. They’ve got Steph Curry, Charles Jenkins, David Lee, Jeremy Tyler….+Monta so they could be dangerous.
by InboundingLobPass on Jun 25, 2011 4:08 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
wizards are gonna be a lot better too.
by InboundingLobPass on Jun 25, 2011 4:09 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
yea i agree
we are up there, but in my mind
Mil, Den, Was improved the most, (i also think Was will sign Jr smith)
prob was,
then mil
then den.
followed by Cle, and SAS.
what did GS really do
got some shooting and young athleticism, hmmm sounds familiar, pretty sure their problem was defense and size.
+1
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 26, 2011 12:13 AM MDT up reply actions
If you watch Faried Highlights
despite his lack of height, he can dunk the ball just as fast as anyone in the league, his jumping ability suggests he can really get up to the basket in a hurry, I think that will translate as well to the NBA. Also I think he has the ability to be more than a Reggie Evans type of player because he has a big frame unlike Evans, he can also become a great one on one defender, or a good help defense player with his leaping ability, he might be able to contribute to every aspect of the game over time, offensively I could see him maybe averaging 9-11 points, if he did that then he would be an offensive liability.
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I’m not sure I agree that Faried has a larger frame than Evans. Evans, at the time he was drafted, was measured 1.5" taller than Faried and 25 pounds heavier – with a 2" advantage in wingspan. Their standing reach is about equal. Physically, Faried is a better athlete. He’s quicker in space and has better leaping ability. But Evans had better lower body strength and was bigger.
I admit he might not be the next Rodman
but if he even does turn into the next Reggie Evans without the nut grab, Evans still averages 12.8 rebounds PER 36, and who is to say Faried won’t develop his game in other areas, just because he is a hustle guy now does not mean he can’t develop an offensive game, he might even turn into a very good defender.
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Let's wait and see
1st thing is let get an NBA season next year.
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by JR15 on Jun 25, 2011 11:12 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Denver vs. Portland
Denver killed Portland in the draft. I was a huge Blazer fan and the grade Portland’s trade received from the fans was somewhere around a C. Congratulations you got a great point guard that will flourish in this coaching environment. I quit the Blazers because the Blazer owner and Gm, Brandon Roy, was just getting out of control. I am now following the Nuggets to see if this organization can go the distance without a mercurial superstar. Good luck Denver, I am with you.
No ill Wil towards Chandler, but he needs to go
I hope he can still be s&t’d in the new cba. I think Toronto could be a good trade partner. Barbosa and top-10 protected 2012 pick sounds great to me. I don’t want Wil taking up 9 mil on our payroll.
by Monkfish on Jun 26, 2011 9:33 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Isn't anyone bothered by the fact
That Andre Miller is no better at shooting the 3 than……say……Nene.
He’s The most durable player in the NBA, he’s a great passer, he is solid all around. But….
Look at how aging guards like Jason Terry and Jason Kidd, show there worth in the playoffs. By winning games with dagger 3 point shots, that nail the coffin. Also, Chauncey won the finals MVP with the 3.
The importance of the 3 pointer in the playoffs is underestimated. A team that drains the 3 over 40%, like the old Spurs can ride that to the finals.
Andre Miller is so bad from 3 that he won’t even try unless it’s a shot clock issue. This could hurt us in crunch time.
by Nuggburg on Jun 26, 2011 10:06 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Felton sucked at shooting 3s too
Difference was Felton took those shots while Miller knows his limits.
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by JR15 on Jun 26, 2011 10:47 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
he hit 6 in one game if i recall
by InboundingLobPass on Jun 26, 2011 12:43 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
i'd say that's better
at least he’s aware he can’t shoot it and doesn’t. that’s better than having a chucker on your team that makes <30% but shoots 3’s constantly (gilbert arenas/). i would hope that GK doesn’t play the 2pg lineup in crunch time but if he does, Lawson will have to play as more a shooting guard. He has shown he’s capable of hitting 3’s.
Miller is better at breaking down defenses and getting in the lane than any of the old PGs except maybe Steve Nash. I wish we traded Felton for Nash instead, but oh well. Maybe come the trade deadline we could flip Miller and somebody else for Nash.
why
do u think he going to be taking crucial shots in the 4th?
this isnt Kidd, or a starter or even a 6th man.
THis is a 15-20 mpg back up pg. why is everyone referencing players that are critical clogs to their success starting PG, or best 6th man in the league
this isnt the same situation, at all. THis is Ty’s team. It will ty’s to win or lose in the 4th, not millers
Hoopshype has the article
And if it’s true it’s a F••ked up deal. AD was done wrong and the article was not a nice read. Kinda pisted about it if it’s the truth.
by tknuckle on Jun 26, 2011 12:39 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Totally OT so I thought I'd post it in this fairly dead thread
if the Lakers trade the artist formerly known as Ron Artest would the headline read: “Lakers trade World Peace”? Because that would be so fitting
"Lakers decide not to re-sign World Peace."
Or “World Peace has meltdown, punches spectator.”
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by love4nuggets on Jun 26, 2011 10:52 PM MDT up reply actions
"World Peace not worth the price"
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 26, 2011 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions
"Lakers pass on re-upping World Peace, too expensive."
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by love4nuggets on Jun 27, 2011 12:27 AM MDT up reply actions
"Opinion Poll: Would You Sacrifice Linas Kleiza for World Peace?"
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 27, 2011 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions
would've could've should've
But sadly didn’t and could’ve cost them their best chance at championship, and he would’ve even made the Nuggets team with AI better than they showed.
by jd80229 on Jun 27, 2011 12:07 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Trading Kleiza for World Peace is out of the question. We have high expectations for Linas.
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