Golden Nuggets: Let's go Grizzlies...
by Andrew Feinstein on May 2, 2011 8:00 AM MDT
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PrintThere'd be no better "f--- you" to the NBA than seeing the Memphis Grizzlies march through the Western Conference while taking down the league's hand-picked favorites along the way.
The professional sports world's most predictable league just got a whole lot more unpredictable these past few days when the Memphis Grizzlies, a former laughingstock as far as NBA franchises go, upset the first-seeded San Antonio Spurs in Friday and then cleaned the collective clocks of the Oklahoma City Thunder in Game 1 of their second round series on Sunday morning.
As a Nuggets fan, I will always have a rooting interest for small market teams. When the injury-plagued, short-handed Utah Jazz beat the Nuggets in the first round of the playoffs last year, I suggested that all Nuggets fans root for the Jazz to beat the Lakers in the second round. (It should be noted that none of our fellow Stiffs agreed with me on that one.) And while it might be tempting to root for the Thunder, I can't root for a franchise that was hijacked from Seattle in the most corrupt way possible nor root for a team that benefited from suspect calls to beat our Nuggets.
But the Grizzlies? Now that's a team I can cheer for.
Ranking the NBA's 30 cities by their metropolitan statistical area Memphis ranks 27th, ahead only of Oklahoma City, New Orleans and Salt Lake City as the NBA's four smallest market teams (Denver is 17th). Not only is Memphis a small market, but prior to their series against the Spurs this lowly franchise had never won a playoff game and had only appeared in the playoffs three times. Their head coach, Lionel Hollins, has coached the team not once, not twice, but three different times. Their star player, Zach Randolph, has been better known for hanging out at strip clubs than hanging double-doubles in playoff victories. And their able starting center, Marc Gasol, was nothing more than a throw-in in a much derided, lopsided trade involving his own All-Star brother, Pau.
The Thunder out-played our Nuggets in Round 1 and I stand by my previous commentary that they're just better than us right now. But after seeing Kendrick Perkins' mercurial, dangerous act up close, Russell Westbrook's incessant whining, the referees collective adoration for Kevin Durant and knowing the back story behind the franchise's suspect relocation away from a great basketball market with a rich NBA tradition, I have absolutely no love for the Thunder whatsoever. And it goes without saying how much I hate the Lakers, who are sure to dispense with the Mavericks in four or five games in Round 2.
Nothing would make this fan happier than seeing the Grizzlies ruin NBA commissioner David Stern's pre-ordained Lakers versus Heat / Bulls / Celtics NBA Finals party coming this June. And the pre-ordained Thunder versus Lakers conference finals that's "supposed" to happen before that. The Grizzlies give small market teams everywhere hope that if you play substantially better than your competition, a few unfavorable whistles can't beat you.
I never thought in a million years that I'd be rooting for Zach Randolph. In fact, when the rumors of a Randolph-to-Denver deal came up in early 2008, I was adamantly opposed to his acquisition, thinking he would be the final piece to cemented the Nuggets as the Jailblazers 2.0 that Mark Warkentien always envisioned. But "Z-Bo" has grown up (it sure took a while) and it's fun watching a guy who doesn't run the fastest, jump the highest or look to be the most fit dominating the low post against the league's best athletic big men.
My heart was broken last Wednesday when the Nuggets pissed away a nine-point lead in the final minutes at Oklahoma City. And now, thanks to a rag-tag bunch from Memphis of all places, I have something to root for again.
On to the links...
Kroenke, Ujiri face major decisions - The Denver Post
Benjamin Hochman interviews Josh Kroenke after the Nuggets 2010-11 season comes to an end.
Karl finishes fourth in NBA coach of the year voting - The Denver Post
Proving that the East Coast media bias is still strongly with us, Tom Thibodeau and Doug Collins lead the way in Coach of the Year voting, with George Karl not even coming close to winning.
Behind Randolph, the Grizzlies are no longer Cinderellas | NBA.com
No hugging and celebrating. No cute little dance steps at midcourt.
Randolph lifts Grizzlies over Thunder - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
Marc Spears writes that Zach Randolph has found a home in Memphis, and the rest of the West is paying a heavy price for it.
NUGGETS: Perseverance helps Nuggets maintain track record of success
Aaron Lopez puts a positive spin on the Nuggets 2010-11 season.
From the archives...
Witnesses: Randolph seen in Portland strip club while on leave to attend funeral
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Don't forget Mike Conley!
Yes, I’m an unabashed Buckeye homer, but you gotta throw in his handling of the point as a crucial factor in their handling of OKC (AT OKC! Unbelievable!) with relative ease.
And don’t forget, everyone, even myself, was scratching their head at Con’s contract extension earlier this year. He’s making everyone eat crow. Atta boy Con’s!!! Go Grizz!!!
Great thoughts from Durant/Z-Bo in the Spears article:
"He’s an animal," Durant said. If that wasn’t complimentary enough of Randolph’s un-humanlike performance, Durant made this pitch a moment later:
"He’s the best power forward in the league."
And what did Randolph think of Durant’s assessment?
"I got to agree with that," Randolph said. He wasn’t smiling.
GO GRIZZLIES!!!!!
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Unfortunately we never tried to exploit them
Mozgov or Koufos in the game at the same time as Nene would have given us a chance to at least try something different against Ibaka and Perkins, who were giving our penetration, attack the rim offense fits. Alas, George Karl is oblivious to in game adjustments let alone series adjustments. Fourth in the coach of the year voting sounds about right, east coast bias or not.
GK was scared to use moz and koufos in the regular season
no way he would play them in the playoffs. funny that GK was catching heat from the FO to play moz during the regular season but he still pretty much refused to unless absolutely necessary.
early in the series, GK he didnt want to play moz during the OKC series bc he wasnt ready. i wonder if this was due to his injury or karl’s normal refusal to play young players. memphis seems to be fine playin darrell arthur, sam young and greivis vasquez (even those he does idiot things like JR).
let's go nuggets! who u wit?
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Moz was in street clothes all series
If you are going to rely on Koufos to get you over the hump…your team is simply not there.
moz was suited up for the 1st game
he was not suited up for the rest of the series bc karl did not have him active. u can only have 12 active players during playoff games.
ty, aaa, gallo, kmart, nene, felton, jr, forbes, chandler, harrington, bird, koufos is who GK went with.
ely and moz were inactive for basically all the games.
let's go nuggets! who u wit?
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Its not about Koufos, its about strategy
Or lack thereof. Its about using all the weapons you have. You cannot tell me that going big for a few minutes just to see if it works is a bad idea. Of course 4 guard lineups are ok, but not a lineup with Koufos, Nene, Gallo, JR and Ty? Never tried it. Not once. Cmon man.
by gonugs on May 2, 2011 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
hoIIins puts in mayo and conIey for offense and takes aIIen out, when his team is struggIin on offense.
that wouId be Iike karI takin chandIer out, if the nuggets had Iike a 1 point Iead, but he wouIdnt because they have a 1 point Iead.
If Moz develops into the center he can become and Nene can move to PF I think we’ll be much better next season. It was frustrating that Nene couldn’t take advantage of Perkins more. Perkins’ footwork on defense is horrible. He looks like a big, mean clown out there.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 2, 2011 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
nene was taking advantage of perkins
but ibaka was coming from the weakside and blockin everything he was throwing up. or they were just fouling nene and he wasnt making his FTs. he was a beast in game 1 and slowly got more and more timid as the series went on. and then in game 5, combine everything that went on with him being in early foul trouble and nene was off his game.
let's go nuggets! who u wit?
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When you look at how the Griz are using their size to intimidate the Thunder
it really calls in to question Karl’s strategy during the first round.
Karl just doesn’t know what to do with 7’ players. It’s sad.
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hopefully hes taking notes
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He's on a fishing trip.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on May 2, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
"Karl just doesn't know what to do with players"
fixed.
by Rainbow skyline on May 2, 2011 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions
"Karl just doesn't know what to do."
fixed
by jungle jiminez on May 2, 2011 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions
"Karl just doesn't know"
fixed
by InboundingLobPass on May 2, 2011 2:51 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
The difference is Randolph
Having a PF that can score at will, rebound and a very high rate, and shoots 82% from the line… is huge. Substitue him for K-Mart and the Nuggets win the series.
No matter who Karl would have put in…they would have been much worse than Randolph.
Also, the Griz play really, really good D on the perimeter.
That rainbow fadeaway he has is just sick.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 2, 2011 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions
this is assuming that we have 7' players of the caliber of Gasol and Rudolph
give Karl a break on this one. We all love Moz and everything, but it is feasible that he might actually not be ready?
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by black_knight101 on May 2, 2011 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Not at all
Dude was real good when he got a chance with this squad. Karl failed big time in this year’s playoffs.
gasoI aint that great, his hands and offensive abiIity are kind of bad.
his big strength is his size, and just bein in there and bein big and can move and not Iookin Iost.
Watched the 1st quarter of Griz-Thun
And then heard the final score later. Wow, the Griz scored 114 on them. I guess the Thunder’s defense isn’t so suffocating after all. I guess all you have to do is construct an actual offense, and then you can score points against them when you need to.
"There's no way I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team' ... I was trying to beat those guys." -Michael Jordan
George Karl has an actual offense...
It’s called the “put as many UNC Tarheels on the floor at once and hope for the best” offense.
by jungle jiminez on May 2, 2011 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
This is what the Nuggets could have been
If they had hit 80% of their free throws like the Grizz did.
I bet the Nugs had a lot of nights where they made 80% of their FTs...
…back when Chauncey and Melo were on the team.
After those guys left, 80% became a lot to ask.
"There's no way I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team' ... I was trying to beat those guys." -Michael Jordan
by ParkHillNative on May 3, 2011 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
how much do u guys think carl landry will command this offseason?
he is an undersized 4 though.
let's go nuggets! who u wit?
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Depends on the new CBA
But right now he’s a guy who should command 5-7 range. If he learns to rebound he’d be a beast.
Hyperboles kill.
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Totally agreed
Go Grizz, go Mavs (just because I want to see Dirk win a title), go Hawks, and maybe go Bulls I guess. Fuck the other four remaining teams.
Wait, what's his real name? We should make a joke out of that.
Karl finishes fourth in NBA coach of the year voting – The Denver Post
Proving that the East Coast media bias is still strongly with us, Tom Thibodeau and Doug Collins lead the way in Coach of the Year voting, with George Karl not even coming close to winning.
FAIL!
Karl finished fourth because that’s where he belongs. Hell, after the performance he put up this post-season, he should be thanking his lucky stars he was even on that list. When will you ever wake up from this cruel dream that has you thinking Karl is a great coach, that’s captivated you for so long Andy? WHEN!!!????!!!!!
Hyperboles kill.
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by GoldenNugget on May 2, 2011 1:28 PM MDT reply actions 3 recs
Karl shouldn't have finished
in the top 30 in Coach of the Year voting.
by jungle jiminez on May 2, 2011 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
I can't believe I'm saying something that could be construed as sticking up for GK
But isn’t the COTY award supposed to be based strictly on the regular season? Don’t they vote on it before the playoffs start?
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by ParkHillNative on May 3, 2011 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions
What happened with the Randolph deal?
Why’d it fall through anyways? Looking back, that would have been a steal. People always dogged Wark, but he had a silent genius about him. No, he didn’t always bring the most respectable players to our team, but they always had tons of talent. If they just had the right coach….
Hyperboles kill.
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that team would have been a disaster
you can’t have 3 guys who all demand to take the last shot. Melo, AI and Z-bo together? That had disaster written all over it.
Was Wark's parting gift the Harrington signing?
by Artimus Mangilord on May 2, 2011 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe if Harrington
puts on some more weight so he is as fat as Randolph, he’ll be as good as Randolph? Anybody?
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
He already is as fat as Z-Bo
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
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I can't believe that ZBo got traded for basically a bag of m and ms to new yahk and then for even less to clippers and then finally grizz
he has had an interesting career. he loves driving “donks” haha love the dude though
Russell Westbrook is still a punk. But as long as he is chucking up a bajillion shots and turning the ball over like a madman, I say “Go Russell go!” I bet Durant beats the crap out of him before this series is over.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
I think the only way
KD could beat up anyone, would be if he stabbed them with his elbow right off the bat.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
He might hit him with his backpack.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 2, 2011 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Oooh good point!
We should be his MMA trainers when his NBA career is over. We’re going to be rich, filthy rich! Haha
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Rudy Gay
They are doing this with one of their top players out as well!
Karl would believe that is a good enough excuse
To get swept in the playoffs and he would keep harping on that fact instead of explaining why he handicapped the team with piss poor rotations that CONTINUALLY hemorrhaged points.
He didn’t even put the starting lineup back in to end the game like most coaches do. He just put the same lineup that lost a ton of points.
Great job Karl!!!
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on May 2, 2011 6:07 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It's kind of funny...
Some of the smarter Heat analysts are complaining about Spoelstra starting inefficient lineups.
If you guys follow Tom Haberstroh, he’s tweeting stuff like this regularly: The lineup of Chalmers-J.Jones-LeBron-J.Howard-J.Anthony has had a better offensive efficiency this season than the current starting lineup.
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James Jones is pretty underrated
He, and not Mike Miller, is their fourth option right now. Yes, that is pretty sad, but I wouldn’t mind him being my 7th or 8th option on a championship contending team
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Sometimes I get this crazy dream, that I could just drive off in my car. But you can travel over ten thousand miles, and still stay where you are" - Harry Chapin
he does what is asked of him
stand at the 3 point line and shoot it if you’re open… which he does pretty efficiently
Joel Anthony is also pretty underrated
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as a defender yes
he certainly leaves a bit too be desired on the other side of the court, but his D is first rate
And then there's the other players on the Heat...
Mike Miller: Injured pretty much all season
Mike Bibby: A shadow of a shell of his former self.
Erick Dampier: Good for 6 fouls a game and nothing else
Zydrunas Ilgauskas: At least he can still kinda/sorta shoot the jumper, but he’s a liability on both O and D
Mario Chalmers: He shoots under 40% from the field and is inconsistent from the 3. He isn’t a real point guard and his only benefit is his one steal per game (which ain’t really saying much)
Eddie House: He is really good at bricking open three-pointers
Juwan Howard: WHOA, he’s still in the league?
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Yeah. However, I think they have Udonis Haslem signed for another couple of years, and Haslem can definitely rebound and play defense.
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Sometimes I get this crazy dream, that I could just drive off in my car. But you can travel over ten thousand miles, and still stay where you are" - Harry Chapin
That would probably be because
No Wade or Bosh.
1 Star player who can create easily and looks for his team mates and 4 players that each have specific roles and are good at that one (or two) role(s).
2 players that need to dribble to be effective on the court together will never lead to an efficient offense.
Karl being 4th in coaching for the REGULAR SEASON
Is ok. The people who believe Karl is a good playoff coach are crazy though. The dude doesn’t try to adjust. Most of the time coaches aren’t to blame but the fact that he sat our better players especially for game 5 made me realize the guy doesn’t care about winning.
Also btw I think JR will follow a Randolph trajectory and turn into a pretty damn good all-star once he leaves Karl. Just how Z-Bo was horrible with Thomas and took time to bring out the true player that he is. To all you haters who wish JR is gone are going to regret it soon. But there should be no way JR wears a Nuggets jersey unless Karl is gone.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on May 2, 2011 6:03 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Wilbon said he voted for Karl at # 1.
I think Karl deserved it for the regular season, but man I hope he voted before the playoffs.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
The voting happens around the beginning of Round 1
so it is only supposed to reflect how the coach does during the regular season.
Bright side: Karl won’t have to worry about the COY curse
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Sometimes I get this crazy dream, that I could just drive off in my car. But you can travel over ten thousand miles, and still stay where you are" - Harry Chapin
he's ok at gettin pIayers to focus on the season, and throwin weird Iineups and defensive schemes and push the baII up the fIoor on teams which is how this team wins in the reguIar season, but those things do not work in the pIayoffs at aII.
but I have been pointin out parts of his coachin that were goin to cost the team games in the pIayoffs, and those aspects def got expIoited greatIy in the pIayoffs.
Sad to see how other coaches can deal
With injuries to important players like the coaches in Memphis and ATL. While Karl makes excuses and can’t do it in the playoffs.
Sucks to be a Nuggets fan for the next 3 years. :( I dont care if we win 70 wins in the regular season I am still scared shitless with Karl at the helm entering the playoffs.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on May 2, 2011 8:33 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
correction:
it sucks to be a fan of the Nuggets as long as Stingy Stan owns the team.
by jungle jiminez on May 3, 2011 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Guh. Mavs/Lakers
I root for a Navy SEAL surgical strike to take out both teams whilst leaving innocent fans alone.
(figuratively of course)
too soon?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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I'm just rooting for the Lakers to lose
I can’t actively root FOR the Mavs..you know what I mean?
OT: Man, what a magnificent day in SD. Nearly 90 at the beach, and not a cloud in the sky. It’s 80 right now at the airport
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Sorry?
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Are you at the airport heading
to Colorado? Thought you were traveling back here soon.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Ohhh...no, I am leaving Wednesday evening
however, the weather reports from the airport
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I see.
Coming to see your brother?
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
It's a multi purpose visit.
Niece graduating college, see my Mom and hopefully my brother. Take in a Rox game :)
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Awesome!
I hope you have a great time!
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
I know! Looks like this until Friday
and then temps drop to mid 60s :(
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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What is happening to me?
I am sort of rooting for dallas! Help!
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
/slaps l4n
Snap out of it!
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EWWWWWWWWWWWWW
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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I prefer to not think about his gropeage
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Seriously
I don’t understand how HDnet can make him a billionaire. Sure it shows “Girls gone Wild” late night; but a billionaire?!!
MOZGOD Member #35
BLOAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Sometimes I get this crazy dream, that I could just drive off in my car. But you can travel over ten thousand miles, and still stay where you are" - Harry Chapin
Tool.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
"What the hell is going on out there???"
Ah I am ok rooting for Dallas
They haven’t won anything. I still think Stern will find a way to advance the Lakers especially because he hates Cuban.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on May 2, 2011 9:20 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, whatever
The Hawks beat the Bulls in Game 1
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Sometimes I get this crazy dream, that I could just drive off in my car. But you can travel over ten thousand miles, and still stay where you are" - Harry Chapin
I approve of this outcome
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OT: Because I'm bored
What’s for dinner and beverage?
Spaghetti, salad and Blue Moon por moi
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Muscle tacos.
Haha shredded chicken breast, corn tortillas, sliced avocado and sriracha. Delicious!
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
I still think Gallo can turn into a Nowitzki type player
Nowitzki is so smooth, I like his game. I really think Gallo can do similar things. And if Moz and Nene work out well we may look good in the future.
I still will really miss JR. I think he is a game changer and a lot of people don’t see that.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on May 2, 2011 9:22 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
I don't think anyone doubts he's a game changer
problem is that he can change it either direction :(
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Ah I don't think it is all on JR for
Changing the game the wrong way. If Karl let him play through bad plays now, I think JR would reward him.
In the past, I would agree that it would be dangerous to keep JR in the game but he has shown maturity this season and deserved more PT. I could see a lot more Miami games out of JR if he gets PT from another coach.
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by JR15 on May 2, 2011 9:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
pIayers have ups and downs, when feIton and chandIer have their downs they are just as bad if not more so.
the thing is those pIayers get consistent pt to show themseIves, yet stiII have not found any consistency, whiIe when jr gets that pt he has to put up very productive #s.
it’s easy to go off a pIayers reps and paint a compIicated situation with a broad brush, but jr is very versatiIe and doesnt faII into those stereo types you guys try to put him in.
I'm not going off of his reputation. I have watched the Nuggets with JR for his tenure.
He’s the most talented knucklehead in the league. We all know it. Also, we weren’t discussing anyone but JR and his tendencies.
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Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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yeah and I have too.
can you point out how he is more up and down than feIton and chandIer, other than his pt, at Ieast put in some kind of exampIe to show your point…
What? I don't understand.
My point is that JR can shoot us into a game raining threes and going to the rim. And just as equally, he can make really dumbass decisions and take stupid shots that take us right out of game too.
I want JR to stay a Nugget. If you’ve read many of my comments about JR you would know this.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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he doesnt shoot us out of games though... that's the point.
when was the Iast game jr has shot us out of the game, how is jr takin bad shots different from feIton and chandIer takin bad shots takin us out of the game.
I feeI Iike it’s because jr has a high profiIe so these things are more noticeabIe with him, but in aII there is not so much difference, other than jr get it goin and go into crazy mode that the other guys cant.
feIton, chandIer, aI, were aII much bigger reasons why the nuggets Iost against OKC than jr.
you make it seem Iike this is jrs 1st season with the nuggets when he had no shot seIection, he occasionaIIy takes difficuIt shots but he aIso has that kind of shot makin abiIity.
I wouId rather see him shoot those shots than kmart shoot jump shots, chandIer dribbIe the baII, aI shootin 3s, feIton dribbIin the baII with no pIan in the 4th and chuckin up terribIe shots, because at some point jr is goin to find his range and start pourin it on.
So I hope you admit
Felton and Chandler can lose us a game too. Karl doesn’t seem to think so (at least with Felton).
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by JR15 on May 2, 2011 10:55 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I feel like putting felton in
in those last few games was like a guaranteed screw us out of the game.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on May 2, 2011 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions
it was important to him because... idk evne he said that the Iineup didnt work against OKC, but because it worked some what in the reguIar season.
it was just important to him guys, Ieave karIy aIone.
cant nba coaches be emo, and put out Iineups on who they Iike personaIIy.
Maybe a little rougher anround the ridges? Doh!
I meant edges! Edges damnit!
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Ridged for .....oh never mind
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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gaIIo doesnt have any where near the offensive moves and skiII that dirk has, he has more athIeticism but it isnt great athIeticism so.
his strength is his size and his abiIity to move, aII other parts of his game he has to work on, his shootin has improved though.
Hush down! I'm texting my agent!
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Why do I have to hush if you're texting, bud?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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My name isn't Bud, but pipe down
because my agent is saying I got a call-back! Wait, where am I?
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
/snort
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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I maxed out my credit cards
for these seats so hopefully I’ll be on TV! So stop asking me questions and smile!
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on May 2, 2011 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Dude, you do realize that our seats
are in the darkened area of the arena? Jack has deemed it that only the floor seats get illumination.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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AAARGHHHH!!!!
My daddy is going to kill me for the credit card bill!
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on May 2, 2011 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I disagree. Actual Staples stores have far more energy.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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I was going to roll my eyes and say "damn bandwagon fans at the away games"
until I realized they were at home, but that’s how it sounds when they score, as if 70% of the arena is unhappy about it
You can't spell epic without Giro
Seems like the refs
are trying hard to give this to the lakers.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Not hard enough!!! hahahahaha
SUCK IT LAKERS!!
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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Melo makes that shot :P
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Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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*Afflalo makes that shot.
fixed it for ya! :p
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by love4nuggets on May 2, 2011 11:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah he did.
The refs just called it a no basket. Refs ruin everything! haha
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by love4nuggets on May 2, 2011 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah...:(
I’d still give Afflalo that last shot. If Gallo gets to be more money, we might even have 3 prong clutch attack
JR, Afflalo and Gallo
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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I like it! Cock, Swish or Boss?
Good dilemma to have!
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on May 2, 2011 11:22 PM MDT up reply actions
And Ty to...driving to the basket for And1
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Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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When Gallo's on, he's pretty deadly
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
Orig.Thugget Loyalist #4, UNugg #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Nobody is as deadly as Swish when he's on.
I hope he stays.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on May 2, 2011 11:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Except James Harden
Hitting JR’s elbow while he is shooting and the refs using OKC colored whistles.
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by JR15 on May 2, 2011 11:53 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
throw lawson in there
I want him driving and kicking for the last shot.
by Rainbow skyline on May 2, 2011 11:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I want to cry now :(
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not just that shot
his last four possessions: airball 3, made 2, trips and strips his own guy, missed game-winner.
by Rainbow skyline on May 2, 2011 11:19 PM MDT up reply actions
I love it
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but by all means, let's keep calling him "the best closer in the game" despite all statistical evidence to the contrary.
by Rainbow skyline on May 2, 2011 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions
seriously.....it's ridiculous
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yay!
i was happy for the mavs until they showed cuban’s ugly mug. barf.
by moonchild808 on May 2, 2011 11:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah he is fat and has been in the tanning bed way too long
I swear he looks like some of the skin cancer patients I see. He should get checked out, and I am kinda serious as I am rooting for the Mavs in this series.
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by JR15 on May 2, 2011 11:51 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Go Grizz
too bad No one cares about he Grizzlies in Memphis, nor are the fans passionate really, Portland is the best small market because their arena is always jam packed and the fans are some of the best fans around, I don’t count Denver because Denver is a mid market.
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Nene may opt out with Nuggets
http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17978868
“If I play happy, if I enjoy the game, my game improves,” Nene said. "I did my best for the team, for the city. I tried to do my best for the fans. But the (Nuggets) need to understand you need to see the return on the other side, or you need to look for it. You need to look for it sometimes.
“They don’t realize all of the sacrifices I made. When you don’t feel appreciated, it’s hard.”
sounds not good
GO GO NUGGETS!!!
If nene is gone we are screwed
Cross your fingers stiffs
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by JR15 on May 3, 2011 8:24 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Btw what the hell does that quote mean
It seems to me he is mad at fans for calling him soft. I dont get what he is griping about. Maybe he is trying to make up some excuse now just like a gf thinking of some excuse to get out of a relationship.
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by JR15 on May 3, 2011 8:28 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think his comments have anything to do with the fans.
I think it has to do with the organization itself. Maybe he thinks they should have picked up an actual center and let him play his actual position? Maybe some incentives weren’t delivered.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
Orig.Thugget Loyalist #4, UNugg #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Also, Lamarcus Aldridge
will make a lot more as he gets older, as he is better than any of the other guys mentioned, but I’d take Nene over Boozer or Al Jeff any day. Nene is worth his 12-14, IMO.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
And finally,
if Nene leaves, there is no point in pretending we aren’t going into rebuild mode.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
I wonder if this is because
Karl still wants him at Center instead of moving him to PF (And starting one of the ivory towers)
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Dammit,
it’s like no one reads what anyone writes here anymore.
/raises hand.
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Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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And Kmart off the bench?
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I agree. It`s sort of torture for Nene.
So if we put Moz into a starter C, Nene will go back to PF to bring all his power into full play. We have height, and we can be more competitive.
KM says he prefers “a competitive team” to “a starter”, and then his dream may come true if he doesn`t ask too much.
Finally, give Raymond and AL back to NY, and we get Chauncey back. I think NY needs Ray much more than Chauncey, maybe they can accept AL. AL`s contract is such a nightmare for us, at least, Chauncey`s has only one year left.
Well, it`s a nice dream.
GO GO NUGGETS!!!
I just don't think Chauncey is ever coming back as a player.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
Orig.Thugget Loyalist #4, UNugg #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
IF that's the case..
Nene would be second player that Karl costs us. Too big price to pay for one stubborn coach..No way he will start Koufos or Moz, they barely got playing time in regular season, and that’s only when Bird got hurt or Nuggets had huge leads…
who fucking cares?
he isn’t worth 12 million anyway. I’m sure we can replace his whopping 14 points and 7 rebounds a game.
by jungle jiminez on May 3, 2011 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah this makes me feeI Iike you dont watch the team that much...
nene’s defense and post pIay are very important to this team, if not, our 1st unit cant score at aII.
by Rys on May 3, 2011 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm more pissed the way these playoffs are panning out
If Karl just placed his best players on the floor in most of the playoffs (like he did in game 4 until he almost sabotaged it with Felton/Lawson), we would be playing Memphis and the Mavs. They don’t match up well with Felton/Lawson and we would probably have made it to the NBA finals. Alas, because poor George doesn’t know how to adjust most of our good players who realize this will leave as soon as possible.
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by JR15 on May 3, 2011 9:10 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Hawks vs. Griz Finals would be awesome.
Stern would be making new rules left and right next season to pamper Kobe, Wale, LBJ, etc.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
im praying for it
but stern will pull a Sac 02 before he lets that happens.
Id love it cause im rooting for memphis now, but the ratings would be horrendous.
it would be hilarious
also the reason why we’ll prbly never see the nuggets or blazers in the finals…stern
I’m sure Stern is working the lines right now. No way he sits back and allows the Grizz, Dallas and Atlanta to get away with …. gasp ….. competing on an equal playing surface. Prepare to be Sterned, guys.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 3, 2011 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions
For someone reason I've always liked Randolph
Even when he was a punk with the so called Jailblazers. Probably something to do with a fatarse getting 20 and 10 each night.
I never wanted him on the Nuggets though.
How does he go on D these days?
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