Game 3 Thunder vs. Nuggets recap: Thunder rolls through Denver...
One of these days, an NBA team will recover from an 0-3 deficit and win a playoff series. Unfortunately, this incarnation of the Denver Nuggets isn't that team nor does it have the fan base necessary to pull off such a historic feat.
Before many of you demand that I dust off firegeorgekarl.com, just remember that George Karl doesn't shoot free throws. Given that the Nuggets were close for much of Game 3, one could argue that Coach Karl put the Nuggets in a position to win the game. The players just couldn't execute, especially at the free throw line where they missed 15 freebies. 15!
But the missed free throws don't tell the whole story of Game 3, nor is Coach Karl off the hook.
For the second consecutive game in this woeful series, the Nuggets allowed the Thunder to control the energy and pace of the game. Even when Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups played here, the Nuggets were an awful half-court team. But without Melo and Billups, the Nuggets are a horrendous half-court team. So once the fast break is taken away from Denver - as Oklahoma City successfully did on Saturday night - the Nuggets become an impotent basketball team. That impotence leads to a lack of ball movement, stuck-in-mud defense and forced, tough shots with the shot clock winding down. The Nuggets' 37.2% field goal and 26.1% three-point shooting is all you really need to know about how they play in a half-court, slow-me-down game.
The Thunder didn't shoot well, either (36.2% from the field and 28.6% from three-point range to be exact), but they're good enough defensively and disciplined enough on both ends to overcome a bad shooting night...on the road, no less. That's what great teams do.
My fellow Stiffs, I fear that we're witnessing the evolution of a great team before our very eyes and unfortunately it's not the one that has "Nuggets" on the front of their jerseys. It seems as though our pesky, upstart, once lovable Nuggets are merely going to be the first victim as this Thunder squad rolls through the 2011 post-season eating up the competition in its wake. Looking at the Thunder objectively (as I believe we can now that we're down 0-3), they have all the makings of a championship team. Two superstars? Check. Size? Check. Depth? Check. Good role players? Check. Role players who can make big shots? Check. Good coaching? Check. Ability to protect the rim? Check. In fact, if the Nuggets were to play the Thunder 100 times I think we'd lose about 85 of them.
A box score reader might see that the Nuggets only lost by three, but the game wasn't really that close. The Thunder calmly, coolly and collectively controlled Game 3, even though the two teams were statistically very similar in virtually every category. Those that were there never got the sense that the Nuggets would pull out the victory, evident by the thousands of (bandwagon, shameful, asshole) fans who exited the arena with 2:28 left in the game and the Nuggets down just eight points. A true basketball fan knows that anything can happen with 2:28 remaining and an eight-point deficit, but Denver is clearly devoid of true basketball fans who can afford to be at Pepsi Center for a playoff game.
Moreover, it was funny based on the texts I received throughout the game from fans watching on TV that the game felt quite different in-person than it did through the tube. For example, those who were there didn't think James Harden fouled J.R. Smith on his game-ending three-point attempt (and believe me, I asked everyone at Blue Sky Grill that I could find if that was a foul or not and the consensus was "no"). And yet those who watched it on TV insist that it was a foul based on the texts I received post-game.
I suspect there were other things noticed in-person that the TV broadcast may have missed, so without further adieu let's get to tonight's depressing version of The View From the Not-So-Cheap Seats...
...instead of rewarding their fans with T-shirts, the Nuggets went cheap and had Anthony's Pizza-sponsored powder blue towels on all the seats. The arena public address announcer had to beg the fans throughout the game to wave the towels and many fans begrudgingly did. It was embarrassing. Denver just isn't a "towel culture" and why we try to emulate red neck cities who wave towels is beyond me. Can't we come up with something original for Denver?
...despite the stupid towels, the team introductions had a good feel to it. And just before tip-off, J.R. Smith collected all the bench players for a rallying huddle. The bench was amped. It wouldn't last long, however.
...when Arron Afflalo made his first three shots (two were three-pointers) the crowd noise was deafening.
...I liked the Nuggets interior passing among the big men early, but said passing disappeared the entire second half.
...we may have finally found a free throw shooter who's worse than Nene and Kenyon Martin in Nazr Mohammed, who airballed a free throw attempt.
...Karl had J.R. on a short leash in the first half and when J.R. got yanked after just a few minutes of playing time, he sulked on the bench and couldn't be bothered to look down the court at the action in the game.
...Karl's rotations felt very sporadic, as if he was trying to test out every possible combination of Nuggets players except for Gary Forbes and Kosta Koufos. It's unclear if the players didn't deliver for Karl forcing him to continue the substitutions or if the many substitutions themselves disrupted any rhythm the Nuggets could have had. Regardless, Karl appeared exasperated as nothing seemed to work lineup-wise. He seemed to settle on a lineup of "trust guys" in Raymond Felton, Ty Lawson, Nene, K-Mart and Afflalo, but they weren't able to get anything going either.
...Afflalo's "clear path foul" call on Harden and the subsequent replay review at the 7:58 mark in the second quarter really killed the crowd's enthusiasm for the remainder of the first half.
...Serge Ibaka just killed us. Game 3 was his coming out party: 22 points, 16 rebounds (six offensive), four blocks and great defense. Ibaka is like an athletic Horace Grant, another reason why I think the Thunder could be NBA Finals bound.
...the crowd was pretty depressed early in the second half until they announced the presence of Avalanche legend Joe Sakic, at which point the crowd erupted. Knowing this, the Nuggets should have had John Elway, Terrell Davis, Patrick Roy, Larry Walker, Alex English, David Thompson, Shannon Sharpe, Peter Forsberg, Rod Smith and Dikembe Mutombo present, because most of the crowd's enthusiasm stunk.
...even though J.R. only had 14 minutes, it seemed as though Karl gave him ample playing time from the late third quarter through the first four minutes of the fourth quarter, and J.R. disappointed. Channeling John Starks in Game 7 of the 1994 NBA Finals, J.R. missed six straight shots and was harder on himself than Karl will be. Frankly, it was heartbreaking to watch in person. Here was Karl giving J.R. time to shine, and J.R. just couldn't hit a shot. That said, while on the court - alongside Chris Andersen who had a great game - J.R. and Birdman were able to rally the Nuggets to a three-point lead, proof that they are Denver's best energy guys. But J.R. got pulled at the 8:00 mark in the fourth for Afflalo (to be clear, I'd have done the same with the way J.R. was shooting and the shots he was taking) and wouldn't return until the Nuggets got really desperate at the very end.
...Denver Stiffs reader "Mordecai", who sits directly behind the visitors bench, got to sit next to Sonicsgate Director/Producer Jason Reid throughout the game (you probably saw them on TV, Reid was holding the Seattle Supersonics banner behind the Thunder bench all night) and they barked at the Thunder all night. Eventually, Durant responded by snapping back at them "watch this!" implying that he'd make some big shots or something. Instead, Mordecai and Reid's heckling led to Durant forcing things and getting a technical foul, a possible momentum shift in the game. It was awesome. Just further proof of what a true fan base can do in a home game.
...throughout the game, Forbes tried to rally the fans to stand up and cheer only to be rebutted on each occasion. Forbes would just shrug his shoulders with disappointment as he should be. The fans were terrible.
...as always, this game had some very suspect non-calls, but none more so than Ibaka's would-be foul on K-Mart followed by Kendrick Perkins' shove of Nene in the fourth quarter.
...the Nuggets were stuck on 78 points from 7:08 to 3:34 in the final period and didn't make a field goal until 1:42 left. The Thunder defense was just stifling.
...remember that whole "we don't need a superstar to win" theory? I believe that's been proven wrong at this point.
...as mentioned above, Pepsi Center started emptying at the 2:28 mark with the Nuggets down eight. As a Nuggets fan, I was humiliated. Forbes again looked up to see people leaving and he had a "what the fuck?!" look on his face, as if he ran downstairs on Christmas morning only to find that there were no presents under the tree. How people could leave on a Saturday night with 2:28 to go is beyond me. Those who left should be ashamed and I'm proud of the few thousand who stayed to cheer the Nuggets to the very end. All I know is that if all the readers of this site could have been there, no one would have left.
...the silver lining of the fans departure meant that I got to watch the last two minutes from about three rows above the Nuggets bench. And what a thrilling last two minutes it was! Many will argue (as will I) that J.R. should have been re-inserted sooner, as upon entry into the game he canned two amazing three-pointers to get the game within one point. J.R. finished with a +/- of +14 by the way, I'm just sayin'.
...watching K-Mart up close, I'm going to insist the Nuggets re-sign him. No one wanted this game more than K-Mart and no one seemed more heartbroken than #4 as the game got out of hand in favor of the Thunder at the end. He was mad at himself for not delivering a better game and you could see it all over his face.
...I won't make any friends with this statement, but James Harden didn't foul J.R. Smith on the final three-point shot. I've watched it on replay many times since, and it still doesn't look like a foul to me. Sorry, folks. One thing not being talked about with this game-ending sequence is the fact that Lawson missed a key screen that he was supposed to set on Harden (watch the video if you don't believe me). By not screening Harden, J.R. was stuck in no man's land behind that three-point line. Of course, it would have been nice for the Nuggets to have a back-up plan for Afflalo to take the three-pointer if J.R. wasn't open.
...down 0-3, the Nuggets could be the first team in NBA history to erase an 0-3 deficit and win a playoff series. Unfortunately, I don't believe this team has the mental toughness nor the talent to pull off such a historical feat. It will happen some day, but not with this roster against the roster possessed by the Thunder.
Non-Stiff of the Night
-Serge Ibaka: As noted above, Ibaka killed us. Many say that Perkins is overrated and he may be, but his presence has made Ibaka dangerously better and the Nuggets had no answer for Ibaka in Game 3.
Stiff of the Night
-The ex-Knicks: Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and Al Harrington had a forgettable game, combining for 5-21 shooting. Their body language sucked on the bench, too, particularly Gallo who, when he got pulled early in the second half (never to return), he spent the rest of the game sulking at the end of the bench a la J.R. Smith.
Parting Shot
Seeing Jason Reid - a lifelong Sonics fan - decked out in a retro Gary Payton jersey and screaming relentlessly at the Thunder bench for 48 minutes while Nuggets fans emptied out of Pepsi Center with 2:28 to go in an eight-point game (on a Saturday night!) was a startling, depressing contrast.
Look, I get that the Nuggets have been maddeningly disappointing in this series. They have lacked mental toughness. They have lacked a cohesive game plan from game to game. They haven't had anyone step up to lead. And Coach Karl still needs to prove that he can win home playoff games (Karl's home playoff record is now 2-10 against higher-seeded teams and 8-10 overall).
But that doesn't mean we as fans should abandon them now.
Not only do we have an NBA team in our great city, but we have a damn good team that won 50 games for the fourth consecutive season. The roster obviously has major gaps and will need changes, but we have a good foundation here from the top of the organization down through the last player on the roster.
They can't say that in Seattle anymore.
For Game 4 on Monday night, the least Nuggets fans can do is stay until the very end of the game and cheer this team on one more time (and, I'm afraid, it will be just one more time). Because if you're not the type of fan who can do that and think you have somewhere more important to be on a Monday night, I know thousands of readers here that will gladly take your tickets off your hands.
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by JustGotStiff'd on Apr 24, 2011 1:40 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
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by Andrew Feinstein on Apr 24, 2011 1:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Fire George Karl.
Hire Rick Adelman or an good assistant coach (Tom Thibedeau Style)
Let Wilson Chandler Walk.
Re-Sign Nene, Kenyon, JR, AAA.
Bench Bird.
Trade Al & Ray.
Draft or Trade for a young PF and a young taller PG.
New Lineup:
Ty Lawson/?
Arron Afflalo/JR Smith
Danilo Gallinari/Gary Forbes
Kenyon Martin/?
Nene/Kosta Koufos
why would you bench bird
he’s been playing great since he got healthy. in fact i’d say he was our best big last night.
sign and trade chandler
to the kings for Casspi and Jason Thompson.
what is chandler in this series? 8 for 39?
I’m confident Casspi could do better than that. JR smith can’t get on the floor for the nuggets, it doesn’t mean that they’re bad players, perhaps just bad coaching.
do you propose an alternative?
Ideally i’d rather trade chandler for Beasley
beasley would be sweet
we could have traded for him last summer. don’t think it’s happening since he blew up. martell webster or wes johnson might be avaiable but im not sure thats much of an upgrade.
i don’t think chandler will be getting a huge contract so I think it’s possible we could keep him. i think he’ll continue to improve, but he needs to learn his role. that is a guy who defends and rebounds and only shoots when he’s open.
If he leaves I’d go after someone like Tayshaun. For the right price, he’s still got game and has playoff experience. He’s normally very durable, just had some recent injuries. But he played 78 games this year. Him and Gallo would be a good combo. Plus we’ve had good luck with other pistons castoffs.
I’m still holding out hope we can turn Felton into Steve Nash. I love steve nash and I think he can still be great especially with his minutes limited. With Lawson running the show, but learning from Nash, we’d have an amazing PG combo. George would have to stop with the 2 PG lineup though.
I never put anything past Kahn, which means to me that Beasley could be available
truthfully, they’d probably bite on a sign and trade jr for beasley and that would allow them to move wes johnson to his natural position SF.
Tayshaun would be nice for the right price, but that’s putting a lot of pressure on a win a championship now mentality, which would make sense if we then got Nash and re-signed Kmart. I’m not saying i’m in favor of that, but it’s certainly one way to go.
It’s weird to think that if there is a season next season that players like Chandler, JR, Kmart, Felton, Afflalo, and even Nene could all potentially be on different teams. It’s most likely that only a couple of them are, but still a weird thought.
Denver just isn’t a “towel culture” and why we try to emulate red neck cities who wave towels is beyond me. Can’t we come up with something original for Denver?
Yellow pom-poms? The white ones have always been a hit at Avs games.
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Redneck? Is the Terrible towels in Pittsburgh "redneck" too?
Its sad to me that Denver writers and fans have to stoop to the level of TRYING to make fun of another city because Denver can’t win a playoff series. And grown men cheering the team on with pom-poms? I guess the fans and city are a reflection of the team….SOFT.
by cdub00 on Apr 24, 2011 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Welcome back, Mr. Class Act.
Come to Denver anytime and say hello.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions
"all you fucker who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you"
I fall in this category. Nugs took a few steps back when Melo left. Just shootin the truth. I know it sucks to lose, but I am making a valid point about the towels and pom poms. If you can’t see that, Im sorry.
At least quote it right
idiot. Man you are lame.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Will you bring me one?
I’ll be waiting.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions
why the hatred?
cuz the nugs lost? or cuz i called out the ignorant, rampant use of the words racist and redneck? get a clue.
You are lost
beyond belief. GTFO.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions
just cuz the nugs lost doesn't mean you
have to hate me.
I got Howard and Blake before KD
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Really?
What kind of backwards thinking is that? It’s like you’re from OKC or something.
Just kidding.
Dude
Shaq went for it last time.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Durant will NEVER go to the lakers
he won’t ……. i won’t allow it!
That’s what we all thought when Melo maxed his contract in ’06. Well the thought of leaving.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Cavs
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
coming in here and
"There's no way I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team' ... I was trying to beat those guys." -Michael Jordan
by ParkHillNative on Apr 24, 2011 7:15 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
coming in here and gloating
makes you a piece of fucking shit
"There's no way I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team' ... I was trying to beat those guys." -Michael Jordan
by ParkHillNative on Apr 24, 2011 7:18 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
gloating?
is the series over?
you, my fellow basketball freind, are a peice of shit for not being able to seperate your lust for a good team and me making a comment on a blog. keep up the good work.
Haha pathetic little troll.
You are starting to grow on me. Too cute!
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Not you, that's for damn sure!
Unless there is a “Most Pathetic Troll” title I am unaware of. :)
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 7:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm a simple kind of man.
Thanks!
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions
exactly
maybe the thunder can have the pleasure of sweeping the nugs again next year. see you then. ha!
Crazier things have happened! :)
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 7:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Don’t jinx it.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Haha sorry KL.
The Thunder have some awesome fans…… and some not so awesome. I suppose all teams do.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 7:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Don’t make me go Jim Mora.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I imagine they will.
But they need to make some serious adjustments.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 7:37 PM MDT up reply actions
did you read the backhanded comments
about OKC in the article above? i think perspective and reality are colliding for many peeps in denver. trade your best player and think the team is BETTER? i don’t agree.
Deeper, Taller, More team oriented, does that count for something?
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I never really heard someone say this team is better than pre trade. We just like this squad better.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Do you honestly think the team that you edged out by 2(?) games
is not good?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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This guy needs a banning.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions
no
i think they were better before the trade. READ the comment next time before yapping.
Dude just stop.
You are embarrassing yourself.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions
coming from you?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Yapping?
Okay, friendo, you’ve really gone too far.
I fall in this category. Nugs took a few steps back when Melo left. Just shootin the truth. I know it sucks to lose, but I am making a valid point about the towels and pom poms. If you can’t see that, Im sorry.
You quoted L4N’s sigline and said you included yourself in that group. So which is it.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
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I've been playing nice with you
because you seem kind of lonely. Almost like no one will let you troll or live at their blogs. But your personal attacks against the members of this blog are banworthy.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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You know who's soft?
Durant.
I kid. But it’s funny. A couple of years ago, people were calling this team a bunch of thugs. And now they are soft. I don’t know, it’s just funny to me.
all the shit talking this week has shown the mental softness.
that is what i am referring to. Not that they aren’t tough.
You mean all your shit talking?
I imagine you are quite soft. Keep trolling, it’s good for your virility!
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions
What is ur?
Are we discussing uranium? If so, I know a boat-load about progressive leach mining technology. And what’s real tough? I wouldn’t say I am, though I have been known to hold my own. Thanks for the compliment seeduboo! Cute name, too! :)
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 7:29 PM MDT up reply actions
I learned it from watching you, dad!
Hahaha
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Dear JR
You are a talented individual and it seems a ton of people in Denver care more about your attitude than your talent. That is fine, there are plenty of players who have been known for their attitude over their talents. You really are a special player who cares about the game and I can see that.
The media may bash you and the sheeple will follow, but you have to continue driving to the lane even if the foul is not called.
Go to a team where you are appreciated. GK is an idiot when it comes to the postseason and he has no clue what talent is when it stares him in the face (see Ray Allen or Michael Redd). I understand that character guys are necessary but they are also more fondly known as role players.
Keep your head high JR, you will go places. Make sure you drop 60 on Karl and make him realize he is an idiot.
Sincerely,
JR15.
p.s. Get into a better situation while you can.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 2:31 AM MDT via mobile reply actions 6 recs
Amen brother
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Apr 24, 2011 3:47 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
this maybe the first thing I ever felt the need to rec
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by RockyNuggets on Apr 24, 2011 4:43 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
And when you come back to Denver
please have some mercy and don’t lite the Nuggets up for 50 pts
Sadly
I agree he has to go. We all wish you well JR and hope that a new coach finds that you can control yourself when you get the minutes you need.
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by Army of Nugs on Apr 24, 2011 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions
I think the Thunder are very talented
But they will lose to LA, not because they are less talented, but because that is the way the NBA works. They WILL have questionable calls against them because they are a small market team. The day a small market team wins it all, especially a really small/ racist city like OKC wins is the day hell freezes over.
No matter how shitty Detroit is, it is a mid market area. This is why the NBA sucks over any other professional sport. We don’t have any Green Bays or San Franciscos, it is always Lakers, or some big market team. Hell SA is bigger than OKC and they have a player who actually posts up instead of just taking Reggie Miller jumpshots.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 2:45 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Have you seen the series between SA and MEM?
And please don’t call other cities racist when you don’t know what you are talking about. There are just as many “hicks” in CO as there are in OKC.
Shouldn't have said racist
That was a stupid potshot, but all the other points are true.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Actually the most racist group of people
I ever met were in OKC.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Just being honest.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah denver nuggets fans aren't racist
that’s why they didn’t/don’t constantly make fun of mayndisisrill and ice for every comment they made using African American Vernacular English
You mean ice the texter?
Nice one, dude. I never once assumed ice was any specific race, though he did mention he is Russian a few times, if you’d paid attention. And of the few young AA people I know that talk a little loose like Mayn, none, and I mean NONE write that way. I even sent my young AA cousin a sample text because I hadn’t seen it before, and he was like “nah, anybody that write like that’s jus playin’”. Well played though NN.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 25, 2011 7:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Nuggets
The OKC Thunder are just a better team than the Denver Nuggets. After losing 5 games in a row to them, its pretty f*cking obvious. No team has ever come back being down 0-3. Series over, season over.
George Karl just got out-coached. Karl killed our chances before the series even started by saying he was basically scared to play OKC…That 2 PG at the same time with Lawson and Felton was really getting old. What happened to the New Yorkers Felton, Gallinari and Chandler?? ALL of them completely dissapeared in the playoffs. The Nuggets looked like they just met 45 mins before the game and decided to suit up.
Our defensive rotations were pathetic. We didn’t respect Ibaka tonight.
Really dissapointed by K-mart’s lack of leadership. I mean asking a guy to be the leader who has a lip tattoed on his neck, is past his prime and makes 16 million a year is not a good idea. K-Mart has been to the finals, makes so much $$…what does he even have to prove??
Don't get it twisted Karl brought
High expectations on this team when we weren’t supposed to win. But when something doesn’t work, adjust. That is why I have a problem with him. We have two capable 7 footers wasting away on the bench, we have a problem rebounding and he keeps playing Al Harrigton??
It is just mind boggling how he keeps forcing the 2 PG lineup when it doesn’t work against OKC. Sure it works against the Lakers who arent as good at defending 2 PGs, but OKC and Scott Brooks know how to defend it.
Adjust Karl…god damn it, adjust you have to change something. AAA can’t make a shot in the 4th…bring in JR.
Chandler can’t throw a pea in the ocean…bring in Gallo. Why the short leash on JR??? If it is a vendetta then I really pray JR finds a better place
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by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 2:57 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed.
Regardless of how the Knicks tradees played, we really needed to bring a playoff atmosphere as fans tonight and we disappointed. I was in section 110 and I feel like I was the only one screaming and yelling and cheering on every play! This is the PLAYOFFS guys!
I just laughed when all the shitty fans left at 2:28, I can’t believe they wouldn’t want to watch the end of the game. Maybe it was just me but after they all left I feel like the vibe in the Can got better, and then we started to make our one man comeback. If you’re going monday night please do a better job and help our guys through one W, I don’t want to get swept, albeit by an unfortunately far superior team.
I lost my voice, so I did my job, now go do yours!
Go Nuggets!
I watched in NYC and frankly
I was one of the shitty fans that stopped watching at 2 minutes left.
I stpped watching because I was so disappointed in my team and couldnt bare to see the Thunder celebrate a well earned win. I was also too time angry at GK for not subbing guys into the game for the team I witnessed that couldnt hit the rim.
I was pleasantly surprised when I read that the Nugs actually came back but it made the loss even more bitter, I think because damn it we actually had a shot to tie it.
We have played terrifically for 6 weeks excepting Thunder games
They are our krytonite for now.
But no way do I believe that this has to be destined for years to come.
Hey, the big disparity between us is supposed to be our lack of star power compared to the Thunders Durant & Westbrook
Bullshit! Look at what happened. The 2 Thunder stars had 1 great game between them. The 1st one. And that was the one WE SHOULD and COULD have won.
The rest of the series, KD & Westy were just OK. We have been beaten by our own poor shooting, poor defensive rebounding, terrible at the line. Really their stars had nothing to do with our problems.
Our losses have been team efforts and their wins have been team efforts.
This could turn around, probably not this series but next year.
WE ARE GOOD. But we have a lot of decisions to make about who to sign, bring back, feature, develop and Karl’s coaching mystified me especially his substitutions.
No way I’m giving up on this team that provided thrills and chills for us past 6 out of 7 weeks.
And I’m going to watch the whole next game rooting like a nut. Whatever happens happens.
And for the record, obviously the Thunder should win, probably 5th game in OKC but no way am I going to just concede.
One game at a time
Btw that Perkins trade
Really lit up Ibaka…Jeff Green really doesn’t look that good on the Cs and Sam Presti looks like a genius.
I still think Ujiri did an amazing job with the NY trade. To be honest, we weren’t supposed to be in the playoffs, but when the playoffs come GK doesn’t know how to adjust and for that we will lose.
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by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 3:01 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
I keep thinking if we won game 1
It would be a completely different series because we would have confidence, but I don’t think it was meant to be.
The refs don’t want us to win and Karl doesn’t know what to do. We are lost now, and we are showing why the Melo trade shouldn’t have been as honky dory as we all thought it would be after that amazing 25 games.
I still want to watch the Nuggets of those past 25 games, but could care less to see a Karl coached team in the playoffs. I am tired of his act. Let’s hope we get s good draft pick for 2012. This is for you Karl, you screwed the pooch, but you got your money.
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by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 3:06 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Damn my inaccurate subconscious.
Let’s go Nuggets in seven! I belieeeeeve!
Michael Ray Richardson on the Nuggets:
Reporter: What do you think is happening to the team?
Richardson: The ship be sinking.
Reporter: How far can it sink?
Richardson: Sky's the limit.
Trolling Respectfully
Appreciate the compliments of team
Okc only slightly racist
Like the Nuggets
Don’t be mad at me for commenting
by BlzredgRdrOkcFan on Apr 24, 2011 3:14 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Are you kidding me man
You are not trolling at all. Be proud of your team you have a good one. They rely a bit too much on the refs if they can’t hit a bucket and it won’t work against the Lakers or Spurs.
It definitely works against the Nuggets and you are not racist only the ones that brought the nooses.
You deserve the W and you will do well in the playoffs. The nature of the NBA says you won’t win and it may happen. You may have to wait for the Lakers to suck, but you might shine soon.
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by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 3:31 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow those last sentences didn't make sense
Anyway long story short…you guys deserved the 3 Ws. Karl is an idiot and you guys are lucky to play an idiot before you play a guy who knows how to win like Pop.
I still don’t know if Memphis can really beat SA, though I would really like it. :)
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by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 3:40 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't want to believe it going into this series
but OKC was the WORST match up for the Nuggets! Congrats to your Thunder but you still have to get that 4th win (hopefully we can prolong this tragedy for at least another game).
Melo's Nuggets > Melo Knicks
by SD_Nugget_Fan on Apr 24, 2011 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Well we did handle pretty much every test for 6 weeks
But that 1st loss to OKC in Denver was a sign of what we would be struggling with.
Losing the middle 3 games in OKC, one a ref aided win, was not too disteressing but this last loss was a sure sign that, this year, that team is better than our team.
That doesnt convince me that next year our guys cant get the job done. But the coaching has to get rational and guys have to stay healthy (the AAA injury effected us as much as an all star’s injury effects most teams) and a few players have to develop – Gallo, Mozgov, Ty must become THE point guard.
Finally, our better players cannot become liabilities on the free throw line because there is little that anyone, including coaches can do about that. It has killed us.
A decent foul shooter like Nene, excellent foul shooters like Gallo and Felton and most everyone else, cracked at the foul line. Difference between wins and losses. Thats a concentration-confidence thing that each player must get a grip on or we will lose many more series.
Over and I'm superstisious so good luck Monday.
by BlzredgRdrOkcFan on Apr 24, 2011 3:59 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
BTW, I like the thunder team a lot.
Just not right now. You have some douchy trolls rolling through here though.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Worst FT shooter has to be...
Brendan Haywood. Seen a couple of the Mavs-Blazers games this week and he was just awful.
Julian from Australia
We NEED Mozgov to play.
Hell, at least while we go down, get some playoff experience and a better look at him. And see if he can work with Nenê. Test the “Nenê is a natural forward” theory. Can’t go much worse than the lineups used so far can it?
Julian from Australia
Agree. Since the series is done,
why not experiment? I’d love to see Mozgov & Koufos split time at center, with Nene at his supposed “natural” position. If we’re going to lose anyway, why not try it out?
NO NO NO
why is the series over?
Of course we are down huge but we have to approach each game like we can win because we can. Whether we could win 4 straight, probably not.
And look I love Moz but he’s a project to be developed next year. For now, as long as we’re alive, he could fill in here and there but we need to ask our talents to go out and perform the way we know they can
Watched the "highlights"
No foul. JR travelled first anyway (possibly twice).
Also we shouldn’t have let Ibaka get that full-court layup with 12 seconds left.
Julian from Australia
First time commenter here
I’m disgusted that fans were leaving the game early when it still wasn’t anywhere near over. What kind of fans are they? Don’t they care about the team? I stayed up until after 6am to watch this game (I live in England). It’s a frightening thought that someone so many miles away can actually be more of a fan than those in the arena.
Proud supporter of Birmingham City, Carling Cup Winners 2011
my first trip the pepsi center Plus the nuggets
I would like to say, nice article first off.
Secondly, I drove 11 hours to be here for both playoffs games. I actually enjoy both teams immensely. Thunder just happened to be my #1 team. I have always been a fan of the Denver teams, from Broncos to the Avs. still never seen a bronco game in person. I about pooped myself driving by Invesco yesterday.
I cannot believe some of our fans brought nooses. :/ That’s so disappointing. I feel embarrassed for all Thunder fans.
However, I loved the Pepsi Center. I didn’t like how crowded it was to get in the building at the beginning of the game. However, is a great arena. Not an obstructed view in the building. The announcer has style and energy. Almost caught myself chanting defense once or twice. He’s awesome. I’d love him in Oklahoma City.
Most of the Nuggets fans are Class acts. From directions to awesome touristy things to do. I love it. However, every single person in 356 last night can go fk themselves. I got hit with all kinda of food, a few sodas and someone told me I should go fuck my mother and then kill her. Sorry for cheering for my team Denver. I don’t really trash talk. Not my forte. If I do, it’s all in good fun, and not with 75 people in one section. Some of these parents had kids, embarrassing.
Kinda sucks. We hit LODO last night or whatever you call it. Asked to leave a couple of bars because we had Thunder gear on. I was slightly upset about this. Their reasoning was because they didn’t need any fighting going on. We just wanted to drink and celebrate. Ended back up at our hotel instead.
I’m falling in love with Denver though. It’s so gorgeous. The skyline is beautiful. I like how awesome downtown is, reminds me of OKC a bit but bigger. I am really looking forward to getting up for a rockies game but definitely a Bronco game.
by OKCChuck on Apr 24, 2011 7:40 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Just have to rec this:
Road trip to a playoff game must be a hell of an experience — one I hope to experience in some capacity one day. I think the threats and bar denials are embarrassing, and I hope that’s not representative of our fanbase.
I wish more people would just enjoy the game instead of getting bent out of shape over local allegiances.
Yeah I agree
I am sorry about some of the fans treating you that way. If it is any consolance one Boston fan tried to punch me and another tried to pour beer on me even though all I was doing was watching the game.
I feel all fanbases do that and it is the unfortunate way things are with passionate fans. Still it must have been an amazing experience being there and watching an OKC W. I would kill for that kind of experience with the Nuggets in LA in a playoff game.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
yes.
Yeah the incidents were no representations of the people I have while in Denver. Everyone has been nothing short of wonderful. I do understand, “Hey, we’ll be awesome to you before, but we’ll ignore you during the game.” I just felt little out of line. Got to a point, usher asked if I needed an escort to get out safely. I declined, and we just hung around taking pics of the court, etc. No worries.
Boston fans are the worst. I had one push my ex-fiance in OKC because she didn’t move quick enough out of the aisle. What a douchebag.
Glad you enjoyed your trip and Congrats on the win
Don’t go to Staple Center, Laker fans are the WORST!
Melo's Nuggets > Melo Knicks
by SD_Nugget_Fan on Apr 24, 2011 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
LoDo is a bad scene
Usually the Denver cops decide to tag-team with the bouncers and crack the heads of patrons before arresting them for “resisting/obstructing.” Sorry you had that experience; glad you made it out relatively unscathed.
Good write up Andrew
OKC is a better team.
Remember Nuggets are young.
Gallo had every right to sulk
he played some excellent defense on Durant and after a few early misses he seemed to be the only nugget attacking the basket. The fact that he was the Nuggets leading scorer this year and somehow played only 19 minutes and took only 6 shots is ridiculous. Yeah he only went 1-6 but can’t some of that be credited to the fact that he wasn’t given a chance to get into a rhythm? Nothing else was working for Denver anyway, so why take away shots from Gallo just so that K-mart can take another contested floater, or ice cold Wilson Chandler can take another contested mid range jumper? It seemed the only time Gallo ever even touched the ball was after Lawson or Felton or JR ran down the clock and just dumped the ball on Gallo as if to say “I don’t want to take a contested three and lower my shoting percentage, so how bout you do it instead.” GK really needs to figure a basic rotation and stick to it. And he better make damn sure Gallo is in it and that he touches the ball regularly.
Clair: Can I eat?
Bender: I don't know. Give it a try.
by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Apr 24, 2011 8:54 AM MDT reply actions
+2
GK has to decide on who THE guys are because this pic-a-player-any-player substitution pattern is bush league.
Guys have to know their role and only extreme performances should change those roles.
Gallo, a fave of mine, has been AWOL but Karl’s handling of him has been disastrous for Gallo and team.
I love Will but he needed to sit because he just couldnt make a shot.
Also, Karl should know that after an extended injury, a player coming back – AAA – is likely to be good at first and tire out at the end. AAA is not really in game shape right now. Love him but Karl would have shown real coaching chops to recognize this and sit him in the 4th quarter.
Why does Karl always have to go small?
Why not try going big every once in a while. Just try it. Once.
Nene, Bird with Kmart guarding Durant. Jr and Lawson or Felton. Let JR play with Nene for once and attack with our most lethal pick and roll weapon. Nene and JR rarely play together but when they do, their pick and roll is deadly. Muscle up on Durant, secure rebounds with big men down low. Karl never tries anything other than going small. We gave up the lead with a four guard lineup. Even the ESPN announcers were confused. 3 minutes in the fourth quarter with Ty, Ray,AAA, Chandler and Bird..then subbed for Nene. We then start getting killed on the boards again and cant buy a bucket. What a joke.
No half court game has been a flaw for Denver for how long now?
Who is it that is suppose to address that issue?
Two seven feet players sitting on the bench, who is suppose to figure out a way to utilize them?
Bad Free throw shooting? Seems to me that the Coach says " Hey you get paid the bucks! Work on making those free throws.
Karl seems exasperated looking for a lineup, another indication that he’s not the coach for the Nuggets.
BTW
George Karl has equaled Bernie Bickerstaff efforts in the demise of the Nuggets.
That is preposterous.
Bickerstaff is in a category of his own.
Karl’s playoff coaching has been piss-poor; but, no one in the basketball know ever expected the reconstructed Nugs to make the playoffs, much less win 50.
Nuggets have a lot of assets and decisions heading into the first off-season without Melo
They clearly need a few more scorers/shooters. Though this group plays hard, the lack of great offense on the inside and outside, is a glaring weakness. The Nuggs should have the ability to find and groom a couple of scorers this off-season. My blue -print for the offseason:
1) Let JR and Kmart Walk – Karl is not leaving (coming off his extension), and its time to end the JR-Karl feud nonsense. No team can really click with that going on. And, it’s time to say goodbye to Kmart. Kmart will never accept a role off the bench, and it’s time to move Nene to his natural position (currently played by Kmart), Power Forward. Moz, Koufus and Bird should share the Center minutes next season.
2) Resign AAA and Nene – Despite the tough playoff series, where we were over-matched by a really good OKC team, AAA, Nene and Ty are our foundation. AAA will emerge as the captain and leader of this team next year, and Nuggs need to lock him in for 5 years or so. Same for Nene. Solid, character guy, deserves a chance to play his natural Power Forward position for the rest of his career.
3) Package Big Al and Felton in a Trade – Teams are going to want Felton as their starting PG, and Nuggs should be willing to give him away if it means unloading Big Al, who has proven to be a disasterous signing for the Nuggs.
4) Find a shooter and post scorer in the off-season. The Nuggs desperately need another outside shooter, or two (or three), and a guy that can score in the post. Koufus and Moz may evolve into solid post scorers, but I would look for a a back-up PF for Nene who can really score and rebound. Also, time to get a dead-eye shooter (Crawford? Dunleavy?)
5) Karl needs to evolve his offensive sets. Karl’s offense seems to still be geared around Melo – - an offense built on the one-on-one offensive talents of his players, when the Nuggs just don’t have a lot of great one-on-one players anymore. As we have seen, the playoffs are all about great half-court offense, and the Nuggs are turrible in the half court right now. Let’s put together offense built on motion, passing, setting picks, and getting guys open shots. Karl’s current offense ain’t it.
6) Sign Chandler to a one year qualifying offer – - Chandler’s value on the free agent market has to be at an all-time low right now. But, he is still young and has great upside. I would give Ill Will one more year in Denver to show whether he is worthy of a long-term deal. I like him as a 6th man, able to fill either the 2-G or SF spot off the bench, and he could become a defensive force. His mental make-up concerns me a bit, though.
7) Get Gallo to a Big Man Camp. . Soon! – Gallo has great size, but plays like he is 6-4. He should be able to cause big trouble to other Small Forwards in the post, yet he stands out at the 3 point line all game. Let’s get Gallo a post game, and teach him to play physical basketball without falling to floor in full flop mode. (I think all this falling to floor is going to cause Gallo a short career too. . his body will not hold up with his clumsy, flopping style).
8) Re-sign Chauncey – - I have a feeling NY is going to buy Chauncey out, and it would great if the Nuggs could sign CB as our back-up PG/locker-room leader for the next 2-3 years. If Chauncey would accept this role, it would be a feel-good ending to a tough year for the Denver sports legend.
Note
If Kmart were to accept a role off the bench, and a 2-3 year, low-dollar deal, I would re-sign him. I just don’t think this is going to happen. We need to groom Moz. He is a big man with loads of talent, and I want to see Nene become one of the best PF’s in the League.
Incredible post ACE111!!!
I agreed with every single sage thing you wrote.
With Gallo though, he needs to develop a midrange game sort of a la Dirk. No reason why he cant with his size, savy and basic shooting ability and then he could be a real force. Dont think he has the physical toughness to be a post up player
But the flopping IS a problem and he wont get calls from certain refs. It has to be a supplement to the rest of his game and not THE goal on too many occasions.
Dirk Shoul be Gallos Model
And though Dirk can really shoot, he has a post game and can rebound.
by ACEIII on Apr 24, 2011 11:39 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Thing is.
One person I see coming back is Kmart.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I really like Kmarts Heart, but...
With his history of injury and advancing years, Nuggs need to move on. They have young big guys in Moz, Koufus and even Fallo that need his minutes. Let’s let Kmart go to Miami and win a championship.
by ACEIII on Apr 24, 2011 11:48 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree on all, except maybe Chandler
I think his mental make-up is terrible, he doesn’t want to be here, and it would be JR-Karl feud all over again.
Then again, he’s an asset (albeit dwindling) on a team that possesses very few.
Agree on Chandler
That is why I am suggesting a one year deal to see if there is a fit.
by ACEIII on Apr 24, 2011 11:50 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, great post, I see your point, 100% agree now.
Your is a very rational post, well thought-out.
Good write up
For me, the main thing was the missed free throws. Seriously, we all agree OKC is a better team, but it Denver hits FTs, they’re up in this series 2-1. That’s not a stretch at all.
I don’t blame Karl at all for how he’s played JR. What else can he do? Let him stay out there all night chucking? Sorry, but JR Smith has had AMPLE opportunity to prove himself. Can we move on?
I really wonder what fans here think the future holds. Who do we keep? I don’t follow salary cap stuff much, but now that Memphis has sunk a billion into Gay, Randolph and Conley, is there a chance we could try to trade for Gasol? The current Nuggets roster is loaded w great role players. Who’s going to be our superstar? I don’t see any on this team.
by AgainstTheLaw.Son on Apr 24, 2011 9:19 AM MDT reply actions
How can you not put the majority of the blame on george karl?
We’ve played OKC 5 times and lost all 5? It’ll soon be 6 straight losses. That’s COACHING, nothing more. The talent disparity between these teams is not that high, we should have won at least ONE game.
A good coach makes adjustments, designs effective plays in the clutch and motivates his players when they need it the most. George Karl has done none of that. this team still has no balls, no heart and no brain. You can make excuses for each individual game FTs, fouls, rebounds what have you. But the fact we can’t even pull out a single win tells you George is an ineffective coach. His playoff resume suggests nothing different.
"Not that high" a talent disparity?
Name one Nugget that comes close to comparing to the talent level of Durant or Westbrook.
That being said, (a) we should have won at least one; and (b) the lack of adjustments certainly rests on Karl’s shoulders.
really, the gap is not that big. . .
Granted, Durant is probably top 5 in the league as a scorer, but what else does he do? I give props to Westbrook because he is a more well rounded player. However, I would put JR, AA, Ty, Nene, and Gallo in the same category as Westbrook as far as talent. The only difference is that Westbrook brings it on a more consistent basis. For some reason, our guys don’t know how to bring it consistently, or they haven’t been “coached” up to play to their abilities. Outside of those two and maybe Ibaka, who else on that team is head and shoulders above the Nuggs players?
God I love this blog sometimes.
Okc wouldn’t trade Westbrook to us for ALL of those guys.
by Teekalong on Apr 24, 2011 3:20 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
the point is they are a 4 seed with 55 wins
and we are a 5 seed with 50. 5 games difference should not result in 6 straight loses. nobody’s trying to say we’re a better team, but we’re not horrible. Clearly we matchup poorly against them, but a smart coach can realize this and make adjustments accordingly. George seems unable or at least unwilling to do that.
I think we are understating the loss of AAA
in these games. We saw yesterday his value, and maybe he should have had the last shot(hard to say). I think the loss of AAA changes everything that GK wants to do.
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Interested to hear why
I like AAA quite a bit and I consider him to be an offseason priority to re-sign behind only Nene, but he’s a limited offensive player and his absence shouldn’t handicap our offense at all.
I disagree that AAA is a limited offensive player.
I see him as a very good outside shooter that can hit 3s with some consistency. He gets a little streaky. He can if he chooses to get to the basket and draws fouls. He has assists and moves the ball around. He’s very smart on the court. Plays super pesky defense. With a significantly healthy AAA I think GK has more options for rotations.
Why do you think he is a limited offensive player?
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I didn't really mean it as a perjorative
I agree that he’s a talented jumpshooter, a solid passer and has been developing moves. But he’s not a guy that really creates his own offense, creates for others or who causes mismatches, which to me is the kind of guy that would mess with whatever a coach is trying to do. He’s a very good system player, but not the guy you build a system around. The definition of the type of offensive role player you want on your team.
I agree that he’s a very good defender and his absence hurts us on that end, no doubt, particularly here where he can work against Westbrook and/or Harden.
you are right
we are not horrible. We were a really strong regular season team because of unusual matchups and depth. But the fact is that OKC is flat out better, which we learned in the regular season matchups. Further, playoff basketball is a different animal: nobody is tired or dogging it after a b2b, nobody is hung over from the night before, nobody is “resting” or tired, and the biggest NBA issue: everyone is actually playing hard. We were probably not quite as good as we looked down the stretch, and we are not in my view a team built for playoff basketball (at least, playing a really good team like OKC).
I fully agree that we should have a win or two out of this series, but watching the talent on the floor…well, its not hard to see who the better team is. No doubt, GK is not putting this team in the best position possible to succeed, but I’m not sure he could arrange the deck chairs so differently to make us win.
skithebert
whoever you are, you really got your finger on the pulse of reason
Damn you and others like you:)
+100
nail on head. If you get beat 5 times in a row (about to be 6) by a team that only has a small advantage in talent, then it comes down to coaching. As a former assistant, Brooks knows GK’s tendencies and has done some excellent game planning to counter those tendencies. However, GK has done nothing to change his gameplans, or attack any of OKC’s weaknesses. And if people want to argue FT, Reb, attitude, whatever, in the end, those are all coach-able aspects of the game.
make sense
what you have to keep in mind is that even small advantages could seem like huge disparities
Ex: If I beat you in a foot race 100x in a row am I a lot faster than you? What if I beat by an inch each time?
With the Nugs, just narrowing th e difference in free throw efficiency could have made all the difference.
Did Harden foul JR? You decide
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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/24/nba-playoffs-thunder-nearly-blow-lead-vs-nuggets-take-3-0-lead-or-did-they/
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Watch that video again.
I’m not saying it was a foul or not…but look at Afflalo. Dude should have gotten the ball.
He was open for sure.
I just don’t think JR saw him. I dunno what to say about that.
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Also, even in that situation...
AAA had been a little cold coupled with his bad hamstring, I’m not sure I wanted him to take that shot. Tough call for sure
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They were on Jr
tight, I was yelling at the TV let AAA have this one, they never even looked his way
Kmart the protector
Might well have been a foul
But there is zero chance a call like that was going to get made so no reason to lose any sleep over it. I wish we would have had a better play called there. Karl put all his eggs in the JR basket, which is certainly amusing in context.
by Teekalong on Apr 24, 2011 3:22 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I just disagree with the premise that foul doesn't get called.
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen it called in games before on the last play.
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just happened to lebron yesterday
going to have to be a real true hack to get that call.
Look at Harden's hand
It seems to move quite a bit after jr’s shot. Seems to me he either hit the ball or his arm. It doesn’t look like he got any ball.
NUGGETS IN SEVEN
WHO’S WITH ME?!?!
Michael Ray Richardson on the Nuggets:
Reporter: What do you think is happening to the team?
Richardson: The ship be sinking.
Reporter: How far can it sink?
Richardson: Sky's the limit.
I'll jump on board!
We got nothing left to lose!
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damn straight!
Michael Ray Richardson on the Nuggets:
Reporter: What do you think is happening to the team?
Richardson: The ship be sinking.
Reporter: How far can it sink?
Richardson: Sky's the limit.
i live in salt lake
these guys would love to have one more game to lose. enjoy it while you got it. :P
Michael Ray Richardson on the Nuggets:
Reporter: What do you think is happening to the team?
Richardson: The ship be sinking.
Reporter: How far can it sink?
Richardson: Sky's the limit.
Whatever man.
I’m going to enjoy watching them until I can’t
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Yeah I'm down,
Damn it.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
by love4nuggets on Apr 24, 2011 7:05 PM MDT up reply actions
A few thoughts from an outside observer.
1. I suspect the really favorable post trade run didn’t tell us how good Denver really is. Sometimes good teams go on great runs etc… and that’s what happened in Denver. They are a good team with a good core to build on, but they aren’t “that good”.
2. Karl made a few questionable moves with the minutes (mostly in game 2).
3. The young Knicks (Gallo and Chandler) were getting their first taste of the payoffs and were clearly not ready to play a major role in a playoff battle.
4. OKC is a really good team and they are peaking right now. They may be the best team in the NBA
5. The Afflalo injury and Chandler being less than 100% physically and not ready for prime time really hurt.
6. I think the Nuggets lost a lot of confidence when they lost at home against OKC in the regular season. That was back to back losses against them and I don’t think they ever really felt like they were the better team after that.
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One more thing
7. Free throws, free throws, free throws. Even some of the very good FT shooters were missing.
Everything on this post is accurate
ExcepT maybe taking it too easy on Karl. But overall, right on.
by Teekalong on Apr 24, 2011 3:24 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
About GK and the coaching staff...
Of course GK can’t be blamed for many of the players shortcomings. That’s not the point. The point is: having GK and his rotations maximizes Denver’s opportunities to win, or are they another obstacle they have to climb, besides bad shotting nights? The way I look at it, it’s more the second than the first. Too many times, even when they ended up winning the games in the regular season, the matches were tougher than needed because of his rotations. Again, In the playoffs that will send you packing. In the playoffs there is little or no room for error, and GK is too error prone. What is worse? Lawson missing a screen at the end, of GK missing a time out at the end? Who’s more lazy, the players, or GK, who won’t try to figure out a way to insert the much needed size into the line up instead of playing all the guards at the same time? And why is it that when he goes for experimental line ups, it’s much more probable he will go with the worst one possible?
Now, what about FTs? Virtually every player on this team, including those who came over from NY, were shooting better before the trade. When a couple of players start missing FTs you can blame them, but how many have to start missing FTs for you to start blaming the coaching staff? Sure you might argue there’s little you can do in just a few games at the beginning of the playoffs, but that was a already clear issue 20 games before the season ended, and the Nuggets staff, GK included, seemed to not really try to fix that, specially if you go by GK’s statements after the first game that they would not look into that, that they just had to accept they were not a good FT shooting team anymore – despite the fact they actually were just a few weeks ago.
Many things went wrong this game, and maybe even if GK was the best coach in the world the Nuggets might not have gotten a win. However, you can’t get on the players for all the missed shots and lack of effort, while giving the coach a free pass. He was as bad for the team as any individual player who missed open shots. GK has missed the coaching equivalent of open shots for this whole series. If he had the same leach from the FO that JR has from him, he would not be coaching this team anymore – the thing is that he got too many breaks to hide his shortcomings, if it is that you can call cancer and the melodrama a break. I know there’s hardly anything that can be done and he won’t be fired right after signing an extension, but that’s what makes it even so more frustrating.
Karl needs to make adjustments!!!!!!!
I want Karl to start with Nene, Kufos, Gallo, AAA and LAwson.
Start the game this way becuase Serge is just staying in the lane every time KMArt gets the ball outside of 15 feet. No Respect for KMart’s shooting ability (which is athe correct move). Brooks made adjustments to keep the lane packed with Serge always lurking adn helping out against Nene. Bring in a Big man that can shoot from the outside and force Ibaka to guard him
That will open up the lane for Nene and Ty.
With that lineup I would have AAA on Westbrook and Gallo on Durant so that any pick and roll play, we still have AAA on the Duranton the switch. But honestly, I am tired of all this switching. Man up and get thru the damn screens
Karl needs to make adjustments!!!!!!!
Nuggets need to go big to start witha Koufos cause he can knock down those 20 foot jump shots. Otherwise we are doing the same damn thing over and over and it hasnt worked for the last two games. We CANNOT go small in this series. Felton should get less playing time cause my eyes tell me he is trying too hard to be the man when he doesnt have the talent to be the man. WTF…sit his ass down and play him 15-20 minutes. Use the extra freed up minutes for JR or Chandler, whichever one is hot.
Love that lineup.
MOZGOD! gets all the love here; but, Koufos has insane athletic ability. Why not try it out?
And, I want to see Mozgov get minutes too…
Nuggets need to go all out in game 4---and WIN
We have been outplayed. Okc has just been better. But the Nuggets need to give 100% total effort and find a way to win game 4. Show Heart, Character. Put a little fear and doubt in Okc. Then who knows, win in Okc and it’s a series again. NBA needs it’s 04 Red Sox. Nuggets have nothing to lose, play all out.
by Nuggburg on Apr 24, 2011 10:22 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Karl needs to go
-Not having inbound plays that weren’t made by Billups? Check
- Shitty line ups in playffs that feature AL at center? Check
-Horrible in game decisions that lead to the team losing? Check
-Rotations? Check? Oh wait thats right Karl moreso uses the bench like a barn door
- In love mediocrity? CHECK
He needs to go. I’m tired of winning 50 games and people trying to fall back on that like thats good. I’d rather win 40 games and blow people up in the playoffs. Your amount of wins in the regular season don’t mean jack in the playoffs. What is that 6/7 first round exits since Karl has been here?
Yeah right,
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It isn't over yet....Let's be F*****g Rocky Balboa
Games 1 and 3 were close and we played and shot like crap. My point is we can beat Okc. All we have to do is win One game and the whole outlook will change. Just win one game…
I like the way you think
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Things I picked up on from the game.
1. GK’s ineptitude to adjust.
2. The lack of black-hole…. (Nobody wanted to take the shot…)
3. The acquisitions’ disappearing act in the playoffs
4. Refs and you know who.
5. FT! FT! FT!!!
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My thoughts from TV land
Gallo… still sucking. Glad he finally got sat and if he was sulking, I didn’t notice but that’d be a bad move by him. What are we supposed to do? Watch him flail into the lane to throw up a shot that gets packed? Draw an offensive foul by going head down? He is just awful right now. I don’t fault Karl for sitting his ass.
Gallo/Chandler making me think that the Melo trade was a real mixed bag… some of it a flaming bag of doo doo on our doorstep. Felton also missed some FT’s that were crucial and inexcusable.
Our FT shooting should cost someone their job. Do we have a FT coach? If so, he needs to be fired ASAP.
I wasn’t as critical of Karl last night as I had been in the first 2 games. I didn’t find myself sitting there saying “why the hell isn’t ____ in the game right now!?!?”…. because sadly, everyone has been playing like shit and there wasn’t much room for improvement to be found, I don’t think.
I saw JR give K-Mart a look that seemed to say “can you believe this?” in reference to K-Mart getting pulled late, as if to say, “you feelin me on this coach Karl bullshit now?” to K-Mart. Not sure if K-Mart is on that page though.
I hailed AAA as a savior but was wrong. As someone alluded to above, AAA was not ready to play extended minutes and wasn’t a factor for us down the stretch.
Birdman is much maligned at times (by myself included, and deservedly so in most instances) but he played his ass off. Props to the Bird for his efforts last night.
I don’t think I can watch Monday night… I’m not a bad fan but I’ll have my daughter and I have better shit to do than watch the season end and get disappointed for another 48 minutes. Season is over as far as I’m concerned…. but I would have stayed to the end last night, and I DID watch the game til the last second ticked off the clock. But I’m done now, as are the Nuggets. Let’s get em next year!
Gallo and Chandler are 22 dude
and they are playing in their first playoff games. Cut them some slack
Free throw shooting was awful
OKC is the better team
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by Jeffrey Morton on Apr 24, 2011 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions
I'll give you the age thing Jeff
But how old are Westbrook and Durant? 23? They look light years ahead of our guys. But they also have more playoff games/series under their belts…
I didn’t say trade them, as others have above, but they have been a poo poo platter for us this series… you can give me that can’t you?
Is Tvland like that movie Pleasantville?
You should watch The Nuggets Win on Monday. Don’t give up now, It ain’t over yet.
Sixers are crushing Miami 35-19
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And the Sixers are now imploding
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This whole "fanbase" thing is a crock of shit
We are getting outplayed by a better team that’s all there is too it!!
WE WILL MOVE ON!!
by milehighhitter505 on Apr 24, 2011 11:54 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
This whole "fanbase" thing is a crock of shit
We are getting outplayed by a better team that’s all there is too it!!
WE WILL MOVE ON!!
by milehighhitter505 on Apr 24, 2011 11:54 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
"...all there is _to_ it!!"
I wouldn’t have Thursty’d you, but you posted it twice.
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by ParkHillNative on Apr 24, 2011 4:12 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
We wont make history and come back from a 3-0 deficit
The main reason why is Karl. Unless Karl came to some sort of revelation and realized that the 2 PG lineup doesn’t work against OKC, he will keep forcing the same stuff and Brooks will smile while Karl is doing it.
Why Karl can’t adjust and maybe try going big after we continually have lost each game on the glass is beyond me.
I wouldn’t care if we were in a 3-0 and Karl tried to adjust in game 2 and 3, but the fact that Karl has not really made any new adjustments to the Thunder is what makes me believe we have no shot at making history with this team.
The JR thing is annoying, but it is not the only problem we have. I thought Koufus played well in game 2, and yet Karl decides to play Al Harrington over our 7 footers.
OKC is really good at covering the 3 point line and Al really can’t do anything else. Why not try Koufus or Mozgov and get some more inside scoring?
The guy who needed to be yanked in the 4th yesterday wasn’t JR with his missed shots, it was AAA, he was just too tired to play and it showed in the 4th. I feel Karl should have re-inserted JR around the 4 minute mark for Felton. I am not a coach so I don’t think I can do his job, but I know if something is not working you have to try and change it up a bit and stop being so predictable. We lost this series because GK became too predictable and lost what made the Nuggets special…their unpredictable ability to score by committee. There is no committee if I keep seeing Chandler, Ty, and Felton closing out games even if they get continually denied at the rim by the taller OKC players.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
While OKC is the better team, we'd likely be up 2-1 if we shot 75% from the line
I really thought we had a chance at being special this post-season.
I’m still the 8 year old boy crying when Dr. J hit a last second shot to beat the Nuggets 4-2 in the ABA finals in 1976…. except I don’t cry anymore. I’m more mature. I drop f bombs
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
A few thoughts...
1. Did anyone notice that the crowd was just as loud after most of the Pepsi Center had cleared out?
2. When you say George Karl doesn’t miss free throws – in this game, some of the blame can be put on him. Why would you let JR shoot the technical free throw when he’s a worse career shooter than Felton? Not to mention, by switching players out like that, the guy at the line gets out of rhythm
3. Wilson Chandler has been really bad this series. Too many terrible shots, horrible defense, too many fouls – Matt said it, he looks like a Dahntay Jones reincarnate. About the only good thing he does is runs to the corner 3 position on a lot of possessions – but when we get him the ball it’s rarely for an open corner 3.
4. Our defense is fouling way too often. Particularly, the biggest momentum killer is a stupid touch foul on Durant. Just put a hand in his face, and if he hits the shot, then so be it.
5. George Karl continues react to the opponent rather than dictate to the opponent. We’re spending too much effort trying to disrupt Durant and Westbrook which is creating easy opportunities all over the court.
6. The final play, foul or no foul, was a horrible play call by Karl. Karl has 4 options: run offense like normal (probably not a good option), draw a play for JR and hope he creates with the whole defense focused on him (also probably not a good option), use JR as a decoy (good option since the defense will be focused on him), or try to get JR the ball if he’s open, and draw up a play with multiple options (the best option). When Karl draws up a play to try to score, it’s very obvious that the team isn’t prepared and that he thinks at a very low level.
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Apr 24, 2011 12:21 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
The number of mistakes and poor decisions I've seen made this series...
The majority of which falls on George Karl and coaching is mind boggling.
It’s especially frustrating when some of the smarter sites are breaking down the subtleties and the number of adjustments happening in the Dallas/Portland series. How many different levels of thinking there are, how many subtle adjustments are being made by both coaches, and I see Karl just hoping his players will win on talent…
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Karl was ok in the regular season
I mean his lineups seemed to be adjusted to the team we played. But it seems he has decided to avoid all that in the playoffs.
I know Gallo and Chandler needed this experience in the playoffs, and they are showing their inexperience, so part of the fault is on the players.
I am still frustrated that Karl doesn’t try to adjust even if we are overmatched. At least if Karl made an attempt at switching things around I wouldn’t be so pissed with a 3-0 hole. At least then I can say with 100% certainty we lost to a more talented team. Right now I still feel we can win and Karl has hindered us which is why this series makes me angry.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 12:45 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Lookin forward to next year if there is one.
I think Karl has all kinds of wacky plans that he had to throw into the fire when Mozgov got injured.
Hopefully he’ll be ready to next time we see them in the regular season!
Also, why no Koufos last night? is he really THAT bad? Harrington was just terrible. He needs to be moved. He’s clearly just too old to hustle. So he needs to be able to get buckets and he’s struggled to do so.
by InboundingLobPass on Apr 24, 2011 1:26 PM MDT reply actions
Sixers are alive !!!!
They beat the Heat!!
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To all the people calling JR a knuckledhead
You do have a point and he can jack a lot of stupid shots. That is why I think Brooks doesn’t play Nate Robinson b/c he is a knucklehead.
I think difference between JR and Nate Rob is JR has such a short leash he doesn’t know what to do. In Boston, Nate Rob was effective b/c Rivers kept Robinson’s minutes consistent and frankly knows how to coach knuckleheads.
Brooks just wants to avoid it completely which is understandable, but I still think JR will be an all-star with another coach.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 1:53 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
WEll FUCK IT
i am still going to the game Monday night and bringing 8 friends and were gonna yell our faces off… so sad today… fuck its hard being a thuggets fan sometimes… but as my buddy pointed out: statistically, it is impossible for a 0-3 to loose that series. I think he has a point… lol… see you on monday real fans… WE GOT THIS…right?
not impossible to win
I calculate a 3% chance to win series for the Nugs. Better than 0.
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This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIPCGyihxw
And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mf3Bypyk8
Was it over when the German’s bombed Pearl harbor?
by Nuggburg on Apr 24, 2011 2:19 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
haha
fuck yeah bill murry… he would not be giving up yet…
Anyone bring up Injuries?
We have 5-6 peoples who have been fighting injuries late in the season and throughout the playoffs. OKC was a 100%. We probably still lose the series.
Any Thoughts?
Melo's Nuggets > Melo Knicks
I'm never one to blame a lose
on injuries, 10 times that in the playoffs. No excuse basketball. Injuries didn’t miss FT’s or get out coached.
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Agree on ALMOST everything
I was at the game and also ashamed when everybody left early. I obviously stayed for the end of the game and to boo the refs as they made their exit. I agree that JR was probably not fouled at the end, but the refs made countless bad calls (such as the clear path foul) and obviously favored the Thunder. The thing I don’t agree with is limiting JR’s minutes so much. You even said yourself the Nuggets could not seem to put the ball in the hole yet JR was on the end of the bench. He is our most explosive offensive player and deserved to be out there. I am also going to game 4 and will stay to the end no matter what. Even if we get swept i can support this team and what they have done this year.
Does everybody still want the bag of crap we received from NY
over the tons of draft picks + talented players we could’ve had from NJ? Enjoy the upcoming 5-6 .500 seasons and first round playoff exits, that’s what you wanted. We could’ve rebuilt the right way, now we’re going to be stuck in a mediocre hell with a garbage coach and a bunch of overpaid, average players.
Hey JJ
the Knicks looked real good with what they received from Nugs huh?
Knicks can go fishin’ right now. We at least dont know when we could make our reservations.
Oh and the knicks flat out sucked for 6 weeks while we were making hearty news on ESPN.
who's talking about the Knicks?
Melo is overrated crap, that doesn’t change the fact that we could’ve gotten a much better package for him and we didn’t. Try to keep up.
by jungle jiminez on Apr 24, 2011 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions
I've kept up JJ
and if we just got crap for crap, what’s the complaint?
Also, what were 6 great weeks for the Nugs, just a mirage?
Come on now, we are getting kicked by a team that’s really good. It happens
No reason to call our guys “crap”, OK?
My thoughts
So I admit I haven’t read every comment so I apologize if some of this has been covered.
I was at the game last night and the crowd started great….but it wasnt great in the second and third quarters. I think there are a few things that need to be looked at beyond just the fans
1) The Arena operations do a terrible job by interrupting crowd chants with awful music or competing chants. This was noticeable at tip-off when the crowd started with a lets go nuggets chant and the PA came on with boring, bland generic hip-hop beats. The PA was so loud and overwhelming that the crowd was competing with it, not complementing it – really awful. Way too many loud beats that served no purpose, random noises, etc – nothing that encouraged fans to participate
2) This is related and talked about in the original post, but there is nothing unique about the experience – there is no tradition, song anything that gets the fans into it – the most exciting thing was seeing Cartman on the big screen. Sing Rocky Mountain High at Timeout – do something other than what is seen in EVERY other arena.
3) The team had no energy – so would the crowd? I know the team can feed off the crowd but the crowd can feed off the team – in the middle quarters the team was awful and took the crowd out of it
About the game itself – George Karl has no idea how to coach this team..and maybe in general in the playoffs. maybe he needs more time, but his substitution patterns are awful – Gallinari has brought nothing to this team the last two games other than bad shots. Why Wilson Chandler got as much PT as he did makes no sense to me – say what you will about JR but when he was in the game the team played MUCH differently – he made some bad decisions but the energy level was night and day with him in the game. He over-used Arron Afflalo last night- I was as happy as anyone to see him back but he had missed 16 of 18 games – he was going to be rusty and not in great shape – used him in spurts!
On the X and Os front –
1)this team refuses to step out on picks, leaving the Thunder with 1) open jumpers (Durant), room to drive and pull-up (Westbrook).
2) I still have NO idea what he does at timeouts because this team looks terrible out of timeouts – and looks clueless on inbounds plays
3) FTs – some of this is execution but some of this has to come down to coaching – I have no idea how a team can miss 15 FTs in a game.
Just one (frustrated) man’s thoughts…
I forgot...
The teams clear lack of understanding of how to run a half court offense. We had Melo to blame for a long time but I think the problem is much deeper – I get the whole we need to run thing, but in the playoffss you need to know how to execute plays – its as simple as that
agree kapstone
I have little respect for Melo but some of what was wrong with him derived from weak, stupid coaching
Re: Crowd
There’s a reason that everyone calls OKC’s arena a ‘college atmosphere’. Those guys, along with the arena management, know what they’re doing.
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I just want to say, I don’t want the nuggs to be the only team to get swept.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
So does that mean you are rooting for the Celtics to win :P
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That and rooting for the nuggs on Monday. (but i have a feeling they just want it to be over)
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Who else is up for sweeping?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Us.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
That's it?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Yep, if the knicks make the comeback.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I don’t want to be a lauging stock.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
*laughing
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Meh. I don't think we'll be seen as a laughing stock at all.
I think most people will just say well the Nuggets didn’t have the superstar(s)they needed to make a real run at it.
That’s it.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Yeah Cat
because the teams loaded with superstars did real well
Look at the KNICKS, and the Clips and the Warriors and the Wolves
And, if we all payed close attention to the series, the game we had the best chance to win in was the one in which the Thunder stars went off. We got spanked in games the stars were pretty average in. Hmmm…
But no one will ever conclude a thing from that because their minds are made up, dont confuse em with the truth.
Cat I wasnt being sarcastic towards you
just reads that way but I am exasperated by BS theories
You realize that's not my theory? It's the way the media will spin it.
simple
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Oh absolutely
I just cant figure out if they do it to fulfill an agenda because, look, honestly its easier to have a promo that screams “Lebron vs Kobe” “Carmelo and the Knicks”
People arent as apt to watch if the promo yells “The Nuggets roll into …”
We love our players but right now the average fan & media sees them as not very sexy. Even if they go deep in the playoffs, that wouldnt change much remember the Championship Pistons and Spurs?
It doesn't really matter if there is one or two teams who get swept
sweep is embarrassing, especially in a 4 vs 5
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
And if we do get swept, your point?
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I’m very prideful. Especially when it comes to sports.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Here's my perspective
The Nuggets weren’t supposed to to do a darn thing after the Melo trade. The Nuggets made the playoffs and might still be able to pull off a miracle. We have nothing to be ashamed about.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Which brings me to my next Question.
How will they fare in a full season.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I would say much as we did
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Hopefully, if we can keep majority of the haul we got.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
maybe Cat
Be great if we had a good reg season record and then take our chances in the playoffs
But my response is, we are just going to have to stay tuned and see
Hey, how many fans thought the Nugs would go 18 – 7 (about) after Melo trade. No, really.
And hopefully the nuggs too, so they can be turnt up.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I'm just saying it doesn't matter if it's the only series sweep
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
I'm rooting for the Celtics for just this one last game...
well at least until KG is gone…hate that guy so much. Ray Allen too.
Always had a soft spot for the Celtics when old Employee #8 was around.
"Fans like home runs. And we have assembled a pitching staff to please our fans."
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"Fans like home runs. And we have assembled a pitching staff to please our fans."
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by RockyNuggets on Apr 24, 2011 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Don't look now, but the Knicks are making a run
within single digits
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Anyone else feel
that this series is also exposing a disturbing lack of athleticism? Of our guys, only JR and Kmart are elite NBA athletes, and Kmart is obviously limited due to his injuries and lack of any discernable offensive skill, and JR and GK work together to limit JR’s athletic impact. We just don’t make enough explosive plays (though it was nice to see Nene blocking some shots yesterday…more of that please).
Ty and AAA are both very athletic.
Do you miss Ty’s incredible speed? Well, you might because he is just that fast.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Ty is incredibly fast
and Felton is speed too. But neither one can finish at the rim very well, and most of that has to do with lack of explosive athleticism (and size, of course). Nene is remarkably coordinated and has unreal footwork for a guy with his build. AAA is a solid athlete, as is Chandler. Bird is actually a pretty excellent athlete too, of course, but so unskilled on offense. Gallo is a good athlete for a guy his size. Etc. I’m not saying we’re all stiffs or anything. But other than the two I mentioned, the guys are simply not explosive by NBA standards.
AC....
We really did got gipped with this trade.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
And he just hit a 3. smh….
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
AC is going crazy!!!!!
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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We. Got. Gipped.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Gipped or gypped?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Both.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I do not think this means what you think it means :)
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Just give it AC!!!
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
*to
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Ok, They got swept.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
So what happens with Chauncey now?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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AC
He was clutch!!!
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
AC seems to be one of those blind squirrels that
finds more nuts than he probably should. But good for him
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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He’s a nut finder, no wonder he’s blind?
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I don't think he'll come back. I may be wrong...
but I dunno….I think he’s pretty cheesed off with the organization.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Chauncey’s not one to hold grudges.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Iunno. Being traded twice by the same team..
especially now…..
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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I don’t see it.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Different Jersey.
Same result. Good luck in the future, Melo.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I don't think the Knicks were planning on winning it all this season.
They are looking towards next season.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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They're gonna take a while.
They have some rubble surrounding their two statues.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Thought you were talking about AC.
Shucks.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Him too.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Safe to say that
Nuggets with a Focused Melo > Post Trade Team > Nuggets with Melo right before trade
MOZGOD Member #35
For now.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
So I'm rooting for the Magic in the east now I think.....
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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I'm rooting for da Bulls.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 5:12 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
And their god of a PG
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I'm rooting for the hawks
if Dwight Howard gets pissed for a first round bounce. He may demand a trade out. And we have the assets to trade for him + a good supporting cast and he’d get out of the top heavy east.
The probability for that to happen is slim.
And we’re gonna have to give them Nene.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
we can give them 2 of our picks and the knicks picks
and mozgov. after all they will have to rebuild without dwight
I’d rather we keep mozgod. just cuz he’s 7 ft
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Incase you didn't get a chance
Here is an article in YOUR paper written by Kiszla….just pathetic! :
As a championship contender, Oklahoma City is a fraud. The Thunder is a collection of soft jump-shooters and irritable hotheads. This young team has undeniable basketball ability but a lot of growing up to do.
Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook, the Thunder’s best players, received technical fouls by whining at the refs for perceived injustices.
The jump shot of Durant, who doesn’t like to get dirty, has betrayed him for most of this series. He is soft and adds little besides scoring. Wasn’t that the rap on Anthony in Denver?
That’s not a chip on the shoulder of Westbrook, but a whole bag of Hershey morsels. Here’s betting he will implode when push comes to shove in later postseason rounds as the tension builds.
These flaws won’t cost the Thunder against the Nuggets. No team in NBA history has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit in a playoff series.
But Oklahoma City cannot beat San Antonio or Memphis this way, much less the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers.
Don't listen to Kizla
He really doesn’t know what he is talking about.
You guys have a really solid team and know how to outwit Karl in the playoffs which admittedly isn’t hard to do at all.
I am surprised Kiz is even hinting about something positive about the Nuggets. He is paid to be a hater.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 6:08 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't be fooled.
It’s the Kiszla passive aggressive beatdown on the Nuggets. As opposed to his usual direct attacks.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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We all hate Kiszla too
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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Yeah, the only athletes he writes anything positive
about are local high school athletes and the occasional college player. But basically, he deconstructs and berates our local professional teams to no end.
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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I almost physically
got ill while reading the Denver Post this morning
I’m just going to avoid them and go to stiffs for good news items and smart fans
They're not a fraud...
If you read what I wrote above, I think OKC has the makings of a championship team. It’s just unfortunate that our Nuggets had to play them first!
Andrew Feinstein | DenverStiffs.com | denverstiffs@gmail.com
by Andrew Feinstein on Apr 24, 2011 6:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Honestly, I was a little worried to play Nugs in first round. Last night almost game
me a friggin heart attack. I think GK nailed it when saying that the Thunder are about the only team that is young and athletic enough to “run” with the Nugs. IMO, the difference maker is that we have the better #1 and #2 scoring options. Plain and simple. And team rebounding.
Pretty much a given since the rest of the west are old and slow.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Hey Blake Griffin begs to differ!
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
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They. Are. The. Clippers.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
But.They.Run.Fast...er
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
Orig.Thugget Loyalist #4, UNugg #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
The Clippers to me are like the Mets. No matter how hard they try, something always goes wrong.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
hahaha...exactly.
Here’s hoping Blake “comes home” and joins the Thunder! :)
Would not be surprised if he just changes team colors instead of location.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
me either but then I would have to HATE him
The Lakers are the anti-christ after all….hahahahaha
Well on this point we can agree
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No way. Blake is going to be a Laker next
Mark my words. Bynum’s knees won’t last another two years.
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Wrong person you’re talking to.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
Yeah sorry reply fail on my part.
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But I'm sure you knew that..:P
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Sure.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I predict the Nuggets blow out the Thunder tomorrow. Does that make you feel better?
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Meh.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
too easy.

Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
funny part is
that was our first series EVER…
funny part is
The organization still counts all of the playoff series when they were the sonics.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
uhhhh
actually they don’t…its still the “sonics” history for now. We have own that history if and only if they don’t get a team within five years of the relocation.
I beleive you would call that a reply fail on your part.
Does it really matter, when everybody in the whole freakin world still consider the thunder the sonics?
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
What did you think about the Sonics fan
sitting behind the Thunder bench cheering for the Nuggets?
I don’t think all of the former Seattle fans followed the Thunder
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its funny you ask
I think that is totally ridiculous. Dude needs some therapy. I mean, I would be mad if our team moved, but to act like it was “stolen” as opposed to SOLD is silly. His outfit was silly also. No sefl respect…OBVIOUSLY.
not to mention it was like 4 years ago..
dude needs a life…CLEARLY.
Admit it
You’d laugh too if it wasn’t your team.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
laugh at what? the sonics DB?
I did laugh at that.
No self-respect?
Not sure how you get from a funny stunt to lack of self-respect.
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funny stunt?
have you seen his film? he seems pretty serious to me. Maybe i am being overly sensitive. I hear all the anti-Oklahoma rhetoric that he and his kind have been spewing since the deal went down. To him, its no joking matter.
That still doesn't mean he has no
self-respect.
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to show up to a NUGS AND THUNDER GAME
looking like a green and yellow clown falls in the “no self-respect category” in my book. Call me crazy or a racist or both.
Why is it no self-respect?
I don’t understand that thinking.
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Don’t forget the cowbells.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
well played
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And? What's your point?
That the Lakers have swept us before.
That’s not new information.
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no
that i don’t think the nugs will blow out the thunder tomorrow night. If Kobe can do it, we can do it.
You got a white girl?
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
And I didn't like your redneck towel comparison. Are the terrible towels in Pittsburgh
redneck? And I haven’t ever seen proof of any nooses. I think that is made up honestly. Those kinda guys wouldn’t come to an NBA game, IMO.
Dwight Howard looks really weird with a FuManchu stache
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Andrew Insists?
YOU are going in insist that the Nuggets re-sign Kenyon. YOU are going to insist. Really? Who do YOU think you are?
Doug Moe? Is that really you? The original Stiff?
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This was posted earlier, but I want to point something out...
Take a look at Harden’s hand. Seems like it moves quite a bit after the shot meaning he either hit the ball or jr’s arm. I don’t think he got any ball.
Reggie Miller can't keep this up...
Don’t want to get your hopes up, Denver fans, but there’s no way Reggie Miller can keep up these career playoff bests in rebounding percentage, assist percentage, turnover percentage and block percentage, and PER. He should come back down to Earth in the next four games, and give you guys a shot at the series.
I don't think Durant had much to do with the last two victories by the Thunder
in fact, you could argue that Reggie was quite “Melo-esque” with his horrific scoring efficiency last night.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Apr 24, 2011 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions
The only thing in common with Reggie...
… is Durant’s 60%+ TS this series. Though, I admit, if Durant was “Melo-esque” with his defense last night, the Thunder may not have pulled it out.
The Sonic's Fan
I really find that guy annoying. And before I get accused of being biased, let me explain. First I feel like the Sonics fans were robbed, they did not deserve what happened and have every right to be angry. Second I live near Baltimore, Maryland (Thunder fan because I lived near Durant and saw him play as a high schooler and thought he was a good kid) so I know what its like to get my team stolen. The Colts were taken out of our city without notice, being snuck out in the middle of the night with all of our history. So I know what it is like to feel the loss and anger of your beloved team.
But really, why are you attacking the players? Be angry, wear Sonics jerseys, hold the banner, cheer against the Thunder, scream at OKC management. But the players did not do anything to deserve your ire, in fact some of these guys gave their all for the Sonics and the city of Seattle for a few years (including Durant) and some of them still love the city, call it home, and do what they can to help it out (Collison). They don’t deserve the hatred for something someone else did to you. If you have beef with the players fine, but if you hate Bennett, I see no reason to heckle the Thunder players… just my 2 cents.
WE'RE DANCIN!!!
They’re just trying to get on TV… there’s no practical purpose for their stunt. I’m sure the Washington state legislature, NBA, and City of Seattle are being spurned into action watching them relentlessly heckle the Thunder players just like when they transparently disrupted Howard Schultz’s book signing. SonicsGate was a terrific film, but at this point these guys just come off as childish.
as far as most people have gotten is that the nuggs suck -- however
you will get an idea of the nuggets strength when the thunder start to thrash their next 3 opponents
every western lower seed now has at least two wins through 4 games
fml
by Rainbow skyline on Apr 24, 2011 10:31 PM MDT reply actions
C’mon Basketball Gods!!!
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
by Kevin L on Apr 24, 2011 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
they will anserw!
we got this… i just know it…
We deserve a miracle
The Thunder have a long future ahead of them. Give us our due now b/c we won’t have a future :(.
Unfortunately bball gods hate Denver…oh well I will be the idiot cheering the Nuggets ALL of game 4 no matter how it turns out.
I got pumped up after the NO win. Let’s win in spite of Karl Nuggets. Karl ain’t changing, but the players can get smarter. Hell Lawson should just call a TO even when Karl doesnt want to take one.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Apr 24, 2011 10:56 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
don't know about the no future part
given our young talent and cap space.
by Rainbow skyline on Apr 24, 2011 10:58 PM MDT up reply actions
series is closer than most would admit
We lost game one because of a horrendous call and bad FT% when Durant and Westbrook went OFF. We lost game two because of the hangover from game one. We lost game three because of horrible FT% and we can’t put it in the ocean in the 4th quarter. Even then, we still had the ball with a chance to force OT, even with Surge Chewbacca’s career night. As far as the “non-call” on Harden, if you watch the video, he uses his hip to push JR off balance and move forward into JR’s body as he shoots the ball. Yes his arms were straight up, but he did move into JR with the body, and I’ve seen Durant and Westbrook get fouls with less contact, as has every Thunder fan… I understand where Kisla is coming from, at least from the Westbrook angle. That guy talks more to the refs and gets a pass than anyone I’ve seen. Dwight Howard wishes he could talk like that, but he would most likely get suspended for doing so. I’ve noticed that Westbrook tends to try to make the amazing play after he gets called for a foul, and ends up costing his team for several minutes while he steams… while that might not hurt as much against the Nuggets, a savvy team with a veteran coach will use that against OKC and it will cost them a game or two. If SA survives, I could totaly see Manu getting under his skin and in his head and making him ineffective. IMO, it looked like OKC was waiting for the Nuggets to blow them out, but when it didn’t happen, they decided to try and win the game, which they did. Denver will win game 4, and anything can happen. OKC has won 5 straight against us, why couldn’t we win 4 straight against them? The truth is, there is no reason we can’t. A few plays going our way and we are up 2 games to 1 and OKC is searching for answers. Denver has been in 2 of the games, when NO ONE has had any sort of stroke, and we can’t buy FTs.
by chargershed on Apr 24, 2011 11:00 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
i'm actually very interested to see what happens in game 4
i actually think this game really indicates what type of team we have for the future. The old nuggets would definitely roll over and die in this situation. but since almost the whole team has seemed anxious and ill prepared for the pressure of the playoffs, maybe now that the series is essentially out of reach, guys like Gallo, Chandler, Felton, JR, AAA, Lawson can just relax and play their game. or they may just roll over and die.
As Barkley said, keep the rods at a close distant.
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
*distance
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"I heard Hank Bauer tell the pitcher not to walk this guy.Then on the first pitch he threw me, I hit a home run over centerfield over the fense"
"That was the easy part, the hard part was running around the bases"
"I'll be mistaken, but I'll never be wrong"- Charles Barkley
I have a feeling that missed FTs, offense rebound will be a factor.
It’s been like that for 3 games, Why change?
JR sign somewhere else, so we can get a guy who is not so Bi-polar.
Trade Chandler and Felton for another shooter.
nuggets should look to chicago
for some psychological help. the blackhawks though. they were down 3-0 and now theyre back and ready to take that series. i really dont care how different the sports are, all i know is that it takes the same amount of determination and heart to flip a series like that. the nuggets should look further when trying to get a tip. the blackhawks should be the nuggets’ inspiration and the blackhawks should most definitely be the nuggets’ fans source of hope. LETS GO NUGGETS. GET THIS ONE BACK!!!!






















