Golden Nuggets: Melo deal to Knicks should be a non-starter...
by Andrew Feinstein on Feb 7, 2011 8:01 AM MST
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PrintThe proposed Carmelo Anthony-to-the-Knicks trade that was leaked on Saturday by ESPN's Chris Broussard is bad for the Nuggets, an insult to Nuggets fans and shouldn't be given even a passing thought.
As someone who has been firmly stationed in the "trade Melo for what you can get before he leaves at season's end and you end up with nothing" camp, even I'd rather get nothing - literally nothing - for Melo than Wilson Chandler, Corey Brewer and a 2014 first round pick from the Timberwolves. If that's truly the best the Nuggets can do if forced to deal with the Knicks, they'd be better off making Melo play out the remainder of the 2010-11 season in Denver, let their superstar small forward sweat possibly losing $30 million and take a shot at another playoff run (even though the Nuggets have stunk against the NBA's better teams as of late).
In a "Melo stays" scenario, the Nuggets have a shot of me renewing my season tickets. In a "welcome Wilson Chandler and Corey Brewer to Denver!" scenario, the Nuggets can kiss my season ticket dollars good-bye unless they were to dramatically reduce the price. Wilson is a decent player who thrives in Mike D'Antoni's free-wheeling system and Brewer has been nothing short of a bust given that he was the seventh overall pick in the 2007 NBA Draft. Brewer reminds me most of former Nugget (and former sixth overall pick) DerMarr Johnson...another lanky and skinny shooting guard who couldn't shoot and was too thin to guard anybody either.
As Jeff Morton pointed out to me in an email early Sunday morning, losing Melo in exchange for the likes of Chandler and Brewer should be completely unacceptable to Nuggets fans everywhere. And should such a stupid trade come close to becoming a reality, I'll make sure the higher-ups in the Nuggets organization hear from us.
In the meantime, here's a rundown of the stories circling around Nuggets Nation and elsewhere in the NBA...
Econ 101 basics say Melo stays - The Denver Post
Chris Dempsey argues that while the Cavaliers and Raptors received only late first round picks from Miami in trade for LeBron James and Chris Bosh, at least they got picks and ample cape space in the form of a trade exception. And thus, it might behoove the Nuggets to do the same thing and keep Melo through the end of the 2010-11 season.
Sources: New York Knicks, Denver Nuggets, Minnesota Timberwolves discuss Carmelo deal - ESPN New York
The story that started it all. According to Chris Broussard, the Denver Nuggets and the New York Knicks are discussing a three-team trade that would make forward Carmelo Anthony a Knick before the Feb. 24 trade deadline, according to league sources.
Denver might want to follow in the Cavs misery - CBSSports.com
Royce Young suggests that Denver might want to follow in the Cavs misery. No joke.
Rudy Fernandez Wants to Stay in Portland, Andre Miller Thinks He May Leave -- NBA FanHouse
Chris Tomasson reports that former Nugget Andre Miller might be former Blazer Andre Miller before the trade deadline.
Injured Linas Kleiza Denies Report of Incompetence by Toronto's Medical Staff -- NBA FanHouse
Could there be a controversy brewing between former Nugget Linas Kleiza and the medical staff of his current team, the Toronto Raptors?
From the Archives...
Trading Melo is not an option - Denver Stiffs
Last July, my colleague Nate Timmons put together a number of trade scenarios for Melo...all of which are better than what might be in the works with the Knicks.
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not to be a stickler
but you used the wrong “there” in the Kleiza line…fundamentals you know…
Chris Broussard hadn't gotten any attention in a while
and picked super bowl weekend to gather any secondary attention left unfilled by Football. So he comes up with an according to sources according to sources close to the situation such as a janitor, maid, limo driver, and high end escort type sources.
Or Denver Leaked the info that they were thinkin about this deal for the simple fact that it was such a crappy deal only to let other teams go “wow, thats a shitty deal…we can do better than that lets put our own bid on him” then starts the bidding war
by waterboy31321 on Feb 7, 2011 8:21 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
What makes people think that
by keeping Melo and making him sweat not getting paid as well as not going where he wants is going to allow them to make another playoff run? You really think an unhappy and disgruntled Melo is going to perform at the top of his capabilities and result in anything in the playoffs?
+1
This is such an underrated aspect. I can’t believe nobody here is covering it more. Do people really think we’re gonna get past the Mavs, Spurs or Lakers in the postseason? Hell, I don’t even know if we could beat the Jazz, Thunder or Hornets. Melo’s going to be Pissed (with a capitol “P”) that he didn’t get his money, and there’s no way that this team is going to come together and suddenly form some kind of immeasurable chemistry and camaraderie over the final stages of this season. Do you really think the guys are all gonna call a players only meeting and get Chauncey up there preaching teamwork while knowing this is the final time the Nuggets will likely ever be this good in a while? Paleeez. I love this team as much, if not more than a shit-ton of people, and give my heart and soul to it every year, but I’m also realistic as well.
Hyperboles kill.
Never underestimate the power of infatuation towards athletes.
There's no such thing as a debate, unless there is a judge present; everything else is just an argument.
Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
Wherever you are, think of your dreams, remember that dreams become the life you lead. - Prince
If they don't trade him before the 24th
It could either get everyone to play better without worrying about being traded, or it will turn the season into a funeral procession.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
See, I don't really think either would happen
I think we’d still play the same uninspired every man for himself style of ball we’ve been playing all year. That doesn’t translate to post-season success. In terms of talent, I honestly believe we’re right up there with the Lakers, Spurs and Mavs, but in terms of all the intangibles, we’re probably on par with the Sacramento Kings. It’s a really underrated aspect of this situation; I’m telling you guys. Melo could be so mad at the organization that he could potentially destroy it. It’s a possibility.
Hyperboles kill.
Never underestimate the power of infatuation towards athletes.
There's no such thing as a debate, unless there is a judge present; everything else is just an argument.
Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
Wherever you are, think of your dreams, remember that dreams become the life you lead. - Prince
This concerns me too, and I've mentioned it before.
The only saving grace is that I think Melo would buy in to the “one more run with these guys” if it looked like it had a chance. Losing to the Jazz the other night on top of some of our other recent losses makes that seem unattainable, though.
Denver first.
It's really who you think Melo is
Is he that leader who is clutch and all about winning in the post-season, or the pouty, money-driven player who’s currently demanding a trade? It’s a tough call. We all know he’s a fierce competitor, but you really have to question if he can put all this behind him knowing that we kind of screwed him when we made it clear we were going to trade him.
Hyperboles kill.
Never underestimate the power of infatuation towards athletes.
There's no such thing as a debate, unless there is a judge present; everything else is just an argument.
Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
Wherever you are, think of your dreams, remember that dreams become the life you lead. - Prince
I have no doubt that LeBron quit during the Celtics series
Yeah, I don’t know about Melo. I think he’s basically a good guy who is impressionable and vulnerable to outside influences.
Denver first.
I understand why you guys
would not want Chandler. But you guys would be crazy to not want Gallinari, Curry, AR/First-Rounder for Melo
Right
Who wouldn’t trade a top ten player in the NBA for a backup SF, a fat useless lump, and a guy who can’t play in the most player friendly system in the NBA?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
Would Nuggets fan consider
if Felton (young) was thrown into the trade netting us Billups (old) in return?
No
We already have Ty Lawson.
Hyperboles kill.
Never underestimate the power of infatuation towards athletes.
There's no such thing as a debate, unless there is a judge present; everything else is just an argument.
Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
Wherever you are, think of your dreams, remember that dreams become the life you lead. - Prince
Honestly, I might be interested in Mozgov though
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he’s the epitome of a Stiff, but he’s a freakin’ center, and that’s all I really care about right now.
Hyperboles kill.
Never underestimate the power of infatuation towards athletes.
There's no such thing as a debate, unless there is a judge present; everything else is just an argument.
Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
Wherever you are, think of your dreams, remember that dreams become the life you lead. - Prince
He's been playing great lately
Just posted a 23-14 last week
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by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 7, 2011 4:24 PM MST up reply actions
you are looking through Dolan goggles
get a grip. We have no interest in Felton and our interest in Chandler is tempered. Chandler is a good player but will be gone the next year as a restricted free agent. Plus I still don’t see any quality first round picks yet….It is hard to get excited about a trade that after this season will net us a middling draft pick and just cap space because Brewer and Chandler will be free agents. All we are saying here is that if that is the proposal we are better off at being the best we can be this year and throwing our balls to the walls. We might as well keep Melo, and try to trade for a bigman and make a run. The Lakers are a little down and the Spurs are old and dont have the big guys inside to intimidate us. Dallas and OKC are good but are not unbeatable to us.
Or We can trade Melo to Dallas or Houston and watch him lose 20 M…. and sign as FA to another team next year…
With the new CBA, NY will not have cap space to sign Melo to a Max contract … and we´ll see the “love” for NY when Melo sign with any other team …. just like Lebron, Bosh ….
idk why
Everyone hates the Knicks. We haven’t won anything in 10 years. It seems like you guys would rather have the HEATLES win than the Knicks. I don’t get it.
As for Melo, you are right. I’ve read there is a chance they won’t be able to sign him unless they move some other pieces like Felton to make room. But I also think if we were to offer you Gallo in a deal instead of Chandler it would be a good trade for you
I think you may be confusing
hate for indifference. Just because some of us think the players the Knicks have to offer are a lesser caliber than Melo, doesn’t me we hate the Knicks. But that’s a good try at marginalization. But completely inaccurate.
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I don´t hate Knicks
But what you have to offer is almost Nothing ….
I would prefer play this season with Melo and then let him walk for nothing (but loosing 20 M)
That propsed deal just reported was basically nothing...
but everyone knows that deal was a BS report. An actual deal that would go down WOULD net you something. Relax. Galinari and Fields are both valuable players.
im sorry, did you say 10 years?
what have the knicks won in the last 10 years other than a couple of court cases.
i dont kare if my wurds are spelt wrong.
by Over-and-back on Feb 7, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
try...
1972-1973, my bet is that homeboy here has never seen the Knicks win a championship. They are like the Chicago Cubs of the NBA. At least our fans leave when we are bad forcing our team to do something to make money.
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by REAPtheThird on Feb 7, 2011 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
Nope, you had it right the 1st time
League fans hate the Knicks. The Knicks for the last 10 years have made the worst moves in the NBA resulting in a top3 payroll, while being a lottery team, while trading away every asset, while cheating with illegal workouts.
Now Knicks fans think their team is amazing after half a season of a just above 500 record with a coach that has everyone’s stats 50% inflated. And they get national attention for this? Look at Marion, Bell, Barbosa, and House after they left Dantoni’s system: all mediocre.
And top players still want to ruin the franchises that drafted them to go there?
Many other teams have made many smart moves and loaded up with draft picks, young talent, and good contracts, do everything right, and still don’t get half the consideration the Knicks get when it comes to free agency or winning. It tells everyone like Nets and T-Wolve fans that no matter what their team does, all the stars are going to Boston, Miami, Lakers, or Knicks as soon as they can.
Also, the whole league knows that all the Knicks’ players (outside of STAT who has weak knees) would be lousy without Dantoni’s SSOL offense, so no one wants those players, and still the Knicks won’t offer a decent trade. And yes, with the current CBA (and the next one won’t be as player frieldly) the Knicks have to renounce Chandler’s rights to make cap room and they still won’t have enough for a max contract.
That’s why people hate on the Knicks. They get away with murder.
Wow. I want to reply to like, every line in that post, but I guess I'll just go paragraph by paragraph.
1)Yeah. All that stuff was Isiah. Nobody likes Isiah.
2)Who thinks what? Are you confusing Alleyhoopsters posts as the mouthpiece for all NY fans? They’re getting some national attention because they’ve gone from perennial 30-win teams to locked into the playoffs. And they’re based in NY. Sorry your guy who was born there wants to go back and play for the team his childhood idol played for.
3)Why do people think NY steals stars? What stars have we stolen? The Lakers? Definitely. Miami? Okay. Boston? I guesssss that trade could be construed that way..but not really. Who’s clamoring to come join the Knicks? If anything, I doubted Melo’s burning desire to come here because if he did I wish he’d come 3 years ago when we REALLY could have used him.
4)Your irrational hatred of the Knicks is coloring your view, now. Lousy without SSOL? If you say so. The Knicks aren’t offering a decent trade because…we don’t have to. If I’m selling my car because I’m going to move back to Korea permanently and have to sell it in a week, am I gonna curse out every Craigslister who offers to buy at a low price? I also wonder why people deride Dantoni and say his players have inflated stats. You could easily flip it and say he gets more out of his players than most coaches do, and they love to play for him because of it.
Murder? That stuff you listed was murder??
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
Dantoni does get more out of his players
He’s a good if not great coach, but that also means that his players stink up the joint everywhere else and thus have little value as trade assets. Ask Miami and Toronto fans about acquiring allstar Shawn Marion worked out for them.
It’s hard to get superstar/ MVP candidate players in the NBA. Sometimes making all the right moves without lucking out in the lottery still leads to constant losing. And other teams like Phoenix had great teams via great moves put couldn’t hold them together because of finances.
The Knicks have proven that no matter how bad their organization is run, they’re always going to draw the best players. Melo and CP3 could have toasted to joining Griffen in LA, but they’re pushing their way into NY instead which tells the small market teams that they might as well contract b/c unless you luck out in the draft like SA, OKC, or LA, no matter what you do, everyone is going to the big market teams.
And the league nearly destroyed the T-Wolves b/c they broke they rules, the Knicks barely got a slap on the wrist for cheating. Knicks paying $200000 (not even giving up a draft pick) but finding good players late in the 1st round like Lee, Chandler, Douglas, and Fields is getting away with murder.
Wow
That post is wrong on so many levels…
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by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 7, 2011 4:29 PM MST up reply actions
Interesting article from Dempsey.
Seems to make sense.
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OK Buddy sweetcheeks. Yiur crazy! Eddy Curry is about to have a career renaiassauce and you wuld pass that up! OMg the Nuggets need to ghet ther hed out and just give Melo to us for Curry. Its win/win
sincerely,
Alleyhoopster/Fieldsofdreams
Denver first.
ISWYDT
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TITMIFMTUWYAS
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
Okay, I have no idea. Do tell!
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That is too many initials for me to understand what you are saying.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
oh...mine meant
ISWYDT
I See What You Did There
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Let´s discuss the Melo - Bynum trade...
… This Knick thing is crap.
Are you just trying to start a brawl?
Or run off alleyhoopster?
I’m okay with the second plan.
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AREN'T WE ALL SICK TO DEATH OF THIS ASININE, OFFENSIVE, USELESS NONSENSE?!
I come to DS with a nice cup of coffee to mine a few Golden Nuggets, and once again there are Knicks fans posting as if they’re FO minions offering the Nuggets a deal that cannot be refused. Not if you don’t want to be called “retarded” or “crazy” or “diseased.”
You “come in peace”?! Nah, you come floridly deluded with derisive attacks. And it’s all for naught. PLEASE CEASE AND DESIST.
And we could stop feeding them.
You are a self proclaimed Karl Fan
so we all assumed that you enjoy pain and anguish.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
I wallow and revel in pain and anguish
Not really. And you may have noticed I’ve come to be quite critical of that guy who poses as the Nuggets head coach. Still a fan of the man and his career, even though I think his time is done—or at the very least he’s not a decent leader for this particular squad.
But in all seriousness about this other matter, do you enjoy bantering with these derisive Knicks fans? Do they—and you—believe any of this will make any difference when it comes to who will be traded for whom? Aren’t they just having fun provoking you?
I know you know all this. I’m just tired of reading all this shit. But then I can ignore it, eh?
by LongWindedHank on Feb 7, 2011 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
I usually try to ignore the trolls
but fields uncanny resemblance to alleyhoopster has me fired up. And Gax isn’t a troll.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
You can't ignore them if they interject themselves incessantly...
… to every comment thread.
I’ve flagged fieldsofdreams to no avail yet either. Until he gets banned, re-banned and re-banned again, these GoldenNugget posts belong to him.
DailyKos has a way of using IP addresses to identify what they call “sockpuppets” (previously banned commenters trying to set up a new ID to continue their trolling). Since SBNation was, at least originally, co-founded by the same guy, hopefully the same ability to identify sockpuppets exists, and alleyhoopster can be gone for good.
Denver first.
No, you're fine. You're not alleyhoopster.
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At least Alleyhoopster
is now annoying the knicks fans. I think we should start a pool for how long before the toasters ban him as well.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
No, you're fine
SBNation is a great resource, and going to opposition blogs to ask the other team’s fans what their perspective is makes SBNation a sports fans paradise.
Just alleyhoopster
Denver first.
Foppa is back!
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
I'm wondering when the Nuggets start spending money like the Avalanche
if they will bring back Alex English to interject “excitement” into the fan base.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 7, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
If healthy (which is unfortunately a huge if), Forsberg is still one of the best players in the game. I’m pretty sure Alex is a bit past his prime now. ;)
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
This
He will finish the season with 10 goals and 20 assists. Mark it down.
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
Uh oh
I’m sorry, but I find your comment despicable! The Forsberg-Favre comparisons are waaaaaaaay off base.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
no apologies necessary
And “despicable,” thanks to the Wild fan article being rebutted, has become a term of endearment at MHH. Heck, they even added “A despicable blog” as their tagline.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
Foppa never retired
he has been trying to figure out his ankle for 3 years. If you have ever played hockey you would know wearing any kind of brace in your skate can take years to get used to and is just not comfortable. Can’t compare Foppa to Favre not even close.
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
YES
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
love em
play hockey myself. =) and Foppa was my favorite plyer growing up. I used to play in my basement every night the Avs played, wear my foppa jersey, pretend I was Mike Haynes and announce myself scoring as Forsberg 3 hours a night. It was a blast. I miss those days.
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
I disgraced his number playing adult rec hockey for several years. My guess is that almost every team in the leagues I was in had both a number 19 and a number 21. Bottom line for me is that Forsberg was not the most valuable player for the Avs through their best years (Sakic and Roy were more valuable), but he is the absolute most amazing two-way hockey player I have ever seen play the game.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
Oh i completely agree
I wear 71 in my adult hockey league (i love them number and love Malkin) my buddy wears 21 for Foppa and other buddy wears 19 for you guessed it Super Joe. Foppa reminds me much of JR Smith. No comparrison with their maturity and intelligence but the fact that they both are one of teh most talented and frakishly good athletes at their respected sports but both have been hampered or tied down with a certain problem rather it be a bad ankle or lack of brain cells. They are both my favorite players. Forsberg is just nasty. Scores, passes, plays D, will knock your block off and gahh you with stick handling, speed and shot selection. Can’t wait to see him play again.
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
WTF: I see Alleyhoopster is back. Hold on
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Ban hammer????
Trade Melo to Toronto and Start JR!!!!!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 7, 2011 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
Well I just wasted a few minutes of my life reading through the comments section
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That's what we're here for
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Isn't that what the comments section is all about?
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I never said it was something new
or that wasted wasn’t used as a positive. Although repetitions of conversations with our least favorite Knicks troll are a little less fun.
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Darth Vader wins hands down
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I can't eat doritos anymore
after that disgusting display. Licking the ass of another mans pants. Really?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah
I was hoping to at least be scarred for life by seeing a milisecond of Fergi’s nipple.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
The acoustics were horrible, preventing the BEP
from having their voices drowned out by the technology/background music. I like some of their songs, but Will.i.am is not famous because he is a good singer.
Denver first.
I didn't think it was terrible. I liked it well enough....kind of cool use of lights.
And Fergie did a better version of Sweet Child of Mine than Axl Rose..
/ducks
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Just that particular song. In fact, if I closed my eyes it was hard to tell them apart
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No way was Fergie better than Rose in his prime
but of course it is Slash who made the show. It should have been just slash for 30 minutes.
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Fergie has better legs than Axl. Other than that? I didn’t at all care for the ht show. But maybe I’m just old. Hey, get off of my lawn!
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
What's this flaming bag on the porch again?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
Slash was steralized
and woke up from a coma in a dark room and was told that Fergie was going to do a 30 second rendition of “Sweet Child’ o’ Mine” and when Slash refused at first, the man in the shadows with a suit told him that Axl Rose would be watching, and that it will be awful, when Slash heard this, he went along, and was sterilized to come out and play.
Just a theory, but you never know.
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Remember when...
BEP didn’t have Fergie and they ran with Living Legends, J5, and rapped about socio political issues? A man can dream that Will.I.Am will come back to earth from whatever planet he’s on and start talking about real stuff.
I think J5 said it best, “You ain’t sayin nuthin!” I digress…
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by REAPtheThird on Feb 7, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
That's how I feel
I mean, remember when they sampled REAL music with REAL instruments and REAL melody? I just can’t stand the over produced synth pop minimalist stuff that’s all the rage with the kids these days….. maybe it’s cuz I play music I guess I’m hyper sensitive
AMEN!
I’m not a musician, but I am listening to some Black Star while working on Excel Spreadsheets…weird.
I just love true lyricism and people who actually talk about real issues. I am so sick of the clubs (Mazltov…really?), cash, and hoes. enough already.
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by REAPtheThird on Feb 7, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
You guys need to check out Zappa
if you want real music and a guy who talks about the issues.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
I like some of his stuff
One of the bands I used to play in played a few Zappa tunes…. I love the episode of Crossfire with him the best though…. almost triumphs all of his music
For sure...
I’m always down for some new music…
While we’re at it. the BREAX and Playdough just released some free mixtapes that are nice, if you want to explore some new hip hop…
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by REAPtheThird on Feb 7, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
Zappa is awesome
I don’t have a lot of his stuff, but I plan on getting more soon.
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So nice...
Talib’s Def Poetry Jam performing “hell” is not on the hook any more.
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by REAPtheThird on Feb 7, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
+100000000000000000000000000000000
Atrocious. The Black Eyed Peas are a disgrace to the invention of music. They’re lyrics are about as elementary as they come, nobody can sing, nobody in that bad even has one ounce of talent in their body. Seriously, anytime “Mazel Tov” is one of the punchlines in your lyrics, you know you suck. The only time anybody should EVER get away with using “Mazel Tov” is a song lyric is at a Bar Mitzvah, and even that is still questionable.
I love how people say “Well, they were entertaining” and “Those lights were cool!” Really? Is this what society has come to? When a musical performance is judged not on the quality of the lyrics and songs, but on how many LED light-bulbs where shown?
Ugh, it was just all around sickening. Poor Slash has to sell his soul, integrity, dignity, and everything else in between just so he could make a few extra million dollars, and it’s not like he needs it anyways. What was he thinking???
Fergie destroyed that song, but still not as much as Christina Aguilera botched the National Anthem. That was horrid.
Really, just all around, a terrible Super Bowl as far as the music goes. Hell give me a 60-year-old Springsteen, or ancient Tom Petty any day of the week over that crap.
The only thing that could have topped it off is if Buckcherry and Nickelback came dangling down from the ceiling mid-performance to join the Peas in the re-make of the “I’ve Had the Time of My Life” song. At that point, I’m pretty sure my brain would have spontaneously combusted through my skull.
Hyperboles kill.
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Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
Wherever you are, think of your dreams, remember that dreams become the life you lead. - Prince
Anytime they try to do live music on TV
it always sounds terrible no matter who it is. SNL makes every band that comes on there sound like your neighbors garage band. I have no idea why they do such a bad job with the sound.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
Agree
Overall, though, I think this was the worst batch of superbowl commercials ever.
Denver first.
I thought 1/4 were really good, 1/2 were okay,,,and 1/4 were horrible.
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Seeing a baby smashed into a window didn't amuse you???
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SAVE CHAUNCEY!!!!
Test baby
Trade Melo to Toronto and Start JR!!!!!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 7, 2011 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
Only 9 pts!?
Did you know the only difference between myself and Kobe is approx. 20 pts a game?
danjustin386
He would score those additional 9 points if he really was trying
he doesn’t want to hurt Stoudemire’s feelings, so he intentionally keeps his production in the toilet.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
So why does everyone talk about D' antoni's system
and how it inflates numbers, but yet we ignore that the nuggets play a fast pace offense and Karl runs no plays for anyone. So basically its a free flowing offense just like D’antoni
When Ty takes over full time the offense will be even more fast pace
Denver currently has the 3rd fastest pace in the league and were number 1 in points per game. While the knicks have the second
I honestly think Wilson and Gallo would do just as good in this crazy ass offense as they do in D’antoni’s
I think Chandler is a solid player for sure
Gallo is OK, I guess he young so he has some upside… The real issue to me is the lack of quality picks and both of those players being FA after this year … the knicks have no picks and if they aquired one for AR it’s not gonna be anything special. I think the possibility of that NJ trade is what makes the NY deal look so crappy to us fans
Is there any evidence
that those guys can create their own shots? If traded for Melo, who scores on this team? Nene gets doubled every time he touches the ball, who else can create a shot?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
We'd have to start JR if Melo gets traded
JR is the only one that is able to consistently create his own shot…
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I enjoy reading
Knick fans coming onto this site trying to convince you Nug fans that the “trade proposal” being discussed is anything but shit.
You can pour syrup on shit, still doesn’t make it pancakes.
by NetsKiNG on Feb 7, 2011 11:43 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
+1
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by REAPtheThird on Feb 7, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions
+500
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
First and last public warning
Trolls will be banned. Period. Certain suspected “previously banned” trolls this is your opportunity to leave quietly right now or suffer the public humiliation of being banned publicly twice.
We welcome fans from other blogs posting if you are respectful and interact with Nuggets fans in a productive way. If you repeat the same thing over and over you are not contributing to a pleasant discourse.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
Avs fans are always welcome
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 7, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
Thank you
But please get rid of alleyhoopster again
Trade Melo to Toronto and Start JR!!!!!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 7, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
How to you say "troll" in Farsi?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
What?
I don’t speak Farsi and I have no intention to learn it. Hell no to going to Afghanistan.
Trade Melo to Toronto and Start JR!!!!!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 7, 2011 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
Arabic?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 11:59 AM MST up reply actions
Nope
French, Spanish, Poruguese, Russian, Bulgarian, and Tagalog.
Trade Melo to Toronto and Start JR!!!!!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 7, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
Farsi? Afghanistan?
As far as I know Farsi is the Persian language. Do they now speak Farsi in Afghanistan as the primary language?
Or is this just one big non-sequitor?
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Some parts of 'Stan yes.
But all Farsi linguists get deployed there. Meanwhile, Tagalog linguists stay in Hawaii and sometimes vacation to the Philippines.
Trade Melo to Toronto and Start JR!!!!!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 7, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
You picked good languages
much better postings that the middle east.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
In Afghanistan Farsi is spoken almost everywhere and over 50% of Afghanistan’s total population speak Farsi or Dari.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
What happened to the Afghani language? Seriously.
Thanks for that information. I learn something new every day.
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Comments will look a little weird as I deleted FOD aka EquityBroker aka Alleyhoopster again. Getting further action as well.
Thanks for flagging comments.
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by Nate Timmons on Feb 7, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions
triple ban!!!
THIS IS AWESOME
Trade Melo to Toronto and Start JR!!!!!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 7, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
Thank you.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
=)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOLyoxBSo1g
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I'm pretty sure trolls could care less about being banned twice, needless to say, "publically"
Hyperboles kill.
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Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
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Kendrick Perkins testing out FA next year...
He would be an interesting Center to pair with Nene…
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Indeed
he reportedly turned down a deal for roughly 30 mil/4 yr….. I wonder what he’s gonna get this summer?
prolly around 10 mil/year...
Nene can handle the low post scoring, just need defense and rebounding…
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+1
a perkins nene frontcourt would be great. A little worried about perkins in ouor fast pace, but he would become infitely valuable during the playoffs and the slower half court game.
Agreed
I would scream for five minutes straight if we got Perkins and re-signed Nene. Sadly, for some reason I still see him signing with the Celtics at the end of the day. I think he’s probably just trying to pry more money out of them.
Hyperboles kill.
Never underestimate the power of infatuation towards athletes.
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Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
Wherever you are, think of your dreams, remember that dreams become the life you lead. - Prince
On a different note
I really do believe the Nuggets/Nets had a chance to make a deal in September when Melo may have signed off on the extension. I wish they would have reached a deal in principle so we could have at least gotten a yes/no from Melo.
If I were you’re front office, I wouldn’t trade Melo away for the hot steaming pile of crap you’re going to be offered from NY.
Call his bluff, finish the season out, try and make a playoff run. Maybe you guys make a nice playoff run and Melo signs the extension. Not that crazy of a scenario.
What makes you think Melo would have signed the extension with the Nets?
There was little to no indication of this in any of the speculation.
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I don't understand how this could be true.
Nuggets beat writers were reporting pretty much the opposite of this.
It is possible they were just speculating more than reporting?
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That's what most beat writers do
but I was under the impression that before the Nets had a record of 10-31 with failing attendance that Melo may have been more amenable to agreeing.
This sounds opposite of everything speculated about this entire time.
My opinion is that Melo never had any intention to sign an extension. I actually think Prokhorov cancelled any meeting with him because he already knew it wasn’t going to happen.
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That's not how it sounded from Melo's mouth
it’s been reported that Melo would have agreed to the meeting, he said so himself, but he wouldn’t give a guarantee to the extension PRIOR to the meeting. That’s what Prokhorov wanted.
He didn’t want to meet with the guy and risk being rejected. Melo never actually told the Nets NO though. They wouldn’t have pursued the trade.
The mixed signals are what killed it.
and if Melo
reallllly wanted to meet with NJ why would Parky pull the deal off the table? You can read into the media all you want man but a little common sense is needed sometimes.
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
Because if Melo never agreed to the extension
then he could meet with the Nets and still say no. That would have been epically embarrassing and something Prokhorov wanted to avoid.
so what's done is done
why is there any point wasting your time arguing if melo would have met or not?
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
Melo said he would take a meeting....that's it.
Melo never gave any public indication he would sign an extension that I recollect. Maybe some other Stiffs can help my memory.
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There were many reports at the time saying Melo would sign off on Jersey if a deal was reached
Many. The reason it collapsed was not because of Melo, remember, at that time his team was pushing strongly for him to be traded before the season began, and Jersey fit the bill.
The real reason it fell apart is because Ujiri wanted to wait it out because he still felt Melo might change his mind, as well as the fact that Stan wasn’t willing to take on more money to be worse. Looking back now, that deal would have been killer.
Hyperboles kill.
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Gallo, Fields and Chandler are all crap?
Right now Fields is a better rookie than Favors by a long shot
Based on #'s sure
but not a single GM in the league would trade Favors for Fields straight up. End of story.
And last time I checked Gallo and Fields weren’t even in the proposed trade.
by NetsKiNG on Feb 7, 2011 12:23 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll give you that Fields is better than Favors
It’s just that he’s EXTREMELY redundant on this team. IMO JR, AAA and Forbes are all equal or better than Fields…. we NEED a big though
Fields is putting up better #'s that Favors right NOW
Favors is 19. His ceiling is infinitly higher than Landry Fields.
I agree that his ceiling is higher
But his chance of being a complete bust is also higher as well. Fields is already putting up solid numbers
we're not looking
for solid role players. We’re looking for a home run. Favors may or may not get there but fields never will
either way
the nuggs need a big, not another shooting guard, so from our point of view Favors>Fields
understandable
but I just don’t understand when people call fields crap.
Compared to Melo,
he’s crap. Trading Melo for Fields is like trading Fields for me.
The nuggets may end up taking the Knicks offer, but none of the players in any combination on the knicks, including Stoudemire, would be equal value. Please stop trying to convince us that the players being discussed represent any sort of fair deal, and I’ll stop calling them crap.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
dude, you're going to have to accept that you're not going to get fair value for Carmelo.
If it helps you can feed off the memory of trading us McDyess for Camby and the rights to Nene. It still kills me.
And if you talk about my adorable Fields like that again I will CUT YOU MANG.
Right
And I don’t think a lot of Nugs fans are willing to accept this. I don’t know why, but they just don’t seem to get it and feel that the only players we should be getting back include Lebron James, Dwight Howard and Kevin Durant. NEWSFLASH: Not happening people, and it never was! Melo’s leaving, we have to try and get the most out of him while he’s still under contract for us.
Hyperboles kill.
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Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
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I understand they won't get fair value
I’m just tired of other teams fans trying to convince us that two or three role players are fair value for Melo. We know we’re not getting fair value, stop trying to pretend that a couple of backups are a good trade.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 3:34 PM MST up reply actions
Yes
Favors has bust potential because his game, especially offensively, isn’t very developed.
Fields is a solid role player who will be a good player in the league for years. His #’s right now though are heavily influenced by the system he plays in.
Don’t get me wrong either, I like Fields. He’s the type of hustle player that good teams need…he just doesn’t have a very high ceiling.
his scoring numbers are definitely inflated from the system, but his rebounds arent
Also, Fields i definitely think has inflated scoring numbers at times, but Gallo can stretch the floor and can definitely score in any system
I agree
with Feilds being able to put up those rebounding #’s because of his style of play.
I think if the knicks offered Denver Fields, Gallo, and Chandler then that is def. a package the Nuggets would accept and be able to sell to their fanbase.
A package of Corey Brewer, Chandler (who would be gone), Curry and a 2019 first rounder isn’t going to cut it.
That wouldn't happen for two reasons though:
1) NY would be trading everyone from their starting lineup not named Amare or Felton? Melo’s a star, sure, but that’s wayyyy too much, which feeds into number
2) Unless the Knicks owner really is poking his nose in and forcing this trade, Donnie Walsh has no reason to give up more talent and assets than is enough to make this work financially. Carmelo, and tangentially the Knicks, have all the leverage here. Why give any of it up?
Point #2 is only valid if Melo does not care about the $20 million or so ...
that he’d be giving up if the Knicks go too far low-balling the Nuggets.
Denver first.
I would too if I was a Knicks fan
That’s why the Melo for Bynum post made sense…. do something to get the Knicks to panic a little.
Denver first.
Man if you guys really did that trade I wouldn't know how to feel about it.
It’d be like trading CC Sabathia to the fucking Red Sox for Papelbon and Bucholz. I mean I guess you could take something away from that but….man.
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
Trading with the Lakers would suck
but Bynum is potentially much better than anyone from the knicks.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 1:08 PM MST up reply actions
cuz when you're
a .500 team in the East for God’s sake your starters aren’t going to be as good as the average West coast team and their starters. Denver is a high seeded playoff team so therefor when they trade their best player the demanding price should be at least 3 of NY’s starters. The best part of this arguement is Melo claims he wants to win. He’s already on the best team that’s going to give him a shot at winning. It leaves me laughing everytime i say it.
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
generalizations about the Knicks aside, unless you're Lebron James trading 3/5s of your starting lineup for one guy is never worth it.
You’re missing the fact that Denver can demand all it wants, but we’re not as desperate as NJ was and not willing to give up as much as they were for a player almost everyone in the media says is going to sign with us as a FA in the summer if it comes to it.
And you’re 6th in the West. If you were in the East you’d be 6th as well, 4 games ahead of us. I don’t know how far down your nose you should be looking at us.
We are second in our division.
If we can win the division we maintain home court advantage throughout the playoffs.
( I think….)
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Home court guaranteed for 1st round only, I think
In subsequent rounds, they would cede homecourt to higher seeded opponents.
by ParkHillNative on Feb 7, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
Ahh...well I knew it was home court for part of it.
Thanks!
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In the east
Denver would have 5 to 10 more wins. The east is absolutely terrible. Last I looked, you can make the playoffs in the east with a losing record.
Knicks are going to have to lose multiple players no matter how they acquire Melo. Signing him as a free agent means losing more players than the trade.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
The East is terrible compared to the West sure. Not as bad as it's been the past 10 years, but still worse.
And it’s a fact that we’ll lose several players just because of cap concerns. Just saying nobody other than Lebron is worth 3/5 of your starting lineup.
The root of all this was someone saying the Knicks should give up 3 out of our 5 starters because .500 team Eastern conference sucks Denver is a high seed so give us what we want Knicks suck. I disagreed.
You think NY could beat
Denver in a 7 game series as constructed?
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
are you serious? haha
how do you figure?
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
I think if you go percentages
The Nuggets are prob 70/30. If they were to play 10, 7 games series, the Nuggets would win 70% of the time.
Which would mean that the Knicks COULD win a series against the Nuggs if they played well. But I still give the Nuggets the edge overall. I mean, we did split our 2 games this year…
What do you want me to do, rundown the matchups right now? Sim the series using NBA10K and vidcap it in a report?
Yes, I think it’s possible NY could beat Denver in a 7 game series. I guess I could turn it around and ask what makes you so confident the Nugs would roll us?
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
My opinion and break down
Billups vs. Felton: Felton’s younger faster and more athletic but Chauncey still brings you 16 points a night, vertran leadership and a somewhat controlled style of play unlike the freelancing Knicks style of play.
AAA vs. Gallo: Gallo has length and can shoot but AAA will do everything in his power to shut Gallo down and most likely would do a decent job of it. This is the wild card here. Both players could put up big numbers, it’s all about who shows up.
Melo vs. Chandler. Do I even need to explain this one?
Martin vs. Amare. Amare is the obvious pick here although Martin is one of the last PF’s he would want to face because Martin is a physcial defensive 4. If Martin is to throw Amare off even a slight bit, it’s game over for NY
Nene vs Mazgov: Nene for obvious reasons. Highest FG% in the league, very efficient and when on can ball with even the best 7 footers being undersized. Mazgov is young and raw.
Bench: Denver is one of the deepest teams in the league. Ty, JR, Harrington, Sheldon and Bird could start and beat half the teams in the East. NY’s bench is very weak hence why trading 3 starters has you guys so scared. If I were to guess the outcome of a 7 game series between the two I would say Denver wins 4-2.
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Well since you took the time I should at least respond:
PG – A push to a slight edge for Felton. Chauncey’s only 34 but he’s definitely slowed down a little. Felton covers the points and assists Chauncey brings and then some. Chauncey just might supernaturally kill us with all those transition 3s he takes. I swear only Derek Fisher takes more of those.
Advantage: Felton
SG – I honestly haven’t seen as much of Afflalo as I’d like, and I don’t know why you compared him to Gallo, but pitting our 2nd round wunderkind against your super-sub made good is another matchup I feel comfortable with. Arron scores 3 more points but Landry leads ALL guards in rebounds and sexy nose pimples. Both are used to defending the other team’s top guys(Kobe, Wade, etc) so this would be a fun matchup to watch.
Advantage: Push
SF – Ooooh. Melo vs Gallo. Talk about sexy matchups. I’m sure you remember the game they had against each other at MSG last year. Carmelo’s an elite scorer who can take the entire team’s defensive attention off his teammates and pile it on his shoulders. You know Carmelo’s strengths. Gallo is an underrated defender in both single and help coverage. His outside game ranks with the top few in the league while he’s learned to penetrate and draw fouls while shooting FTs almost automatically. Melo obviously wins this one, but maybe not by as much as you’d expect.
Advantage: Melo
PF – Martin will immediately jump up off the bench when Karl calls his number and promptly rip his patella tendon, crack a kneecap, and fracture his left shin after landing from his first dunk. Amare wins.
Advantage: Amare
C – Nene should win this over an international rookie running away. Moz plays tough D and is mobile enough on offense to annoy most bigs, but it’s not like Nene’s the Brazilian Slouch, so I think he’ll be okay on both ends against our beloved Mozgod.
Advantage: Nene
Bench – Dude, you’re a decently deep team, but let’s not get carried away with that starting and beating half the Eastern conference stuff. NY’s bench isn’t weak so much as under-utilized. Having Kelenna Azubuike healthy would have been a HUGE boost. Denver has a little more depth, but in a running game against a squad that has been conditioned to not take huge breaks before jumping back in that might be marginalized.
Advantage: Denver
Denver and NY would definitely make for a fun series, and I’m DEFINITELY not saying the Knicks would have easy wins in this series at all, but the Knicks have shown this year they can hang with anyone(and then maddeningly lose to the Cavs the next day) so they’d make it a close one. If we did win the series, it’d have gone the distance.
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 1:58 PM MST up reply actions
What in the world
is a sex rose pimple. Pretty sure there are no pimples that are sexy…yuck.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
highly disagree
on the Felton billups part.
Experience matters in a playoff series,
ALso Billups is top 10 in True shooting%. He may be older but he knows how to get his.
Fair response
Honest break downs, nicely done. I still have Denver in the series though. Not trying to be biased, it’s just my opinion. Denver against LA, Miamie, Orlando, Boston any of those teams and I’d say otherwise. I thought Gallo played the 2 for you guys and Chandler the 3? Does Chandler really come off the bench for you guys?
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Well he DID play the Manu role for us earlier in the season
but no. I just had a brainfart after the SF spot and was following along with your post and just put Amare at PF and Moz at C. Lately it’s been Amare at the 5 and Chandler at the 4. Dantoni’s said Moz will probably start at the 5 to push Amare to where he’s comfortable and then we’d have another super sub situation.
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 2:07 PM MST up reply actions
Oh wow
Denver plays Melo at the 4 probably 30% of every game. I actually really like it cuz it’s usually Ty, AAA, JR, Melo and Nene and it makes for a freakishly athletic lineup.
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I hate that lineup
It’s the 17th most used lineup by G.K. with a plus minus of -7. The best lineup by plus minus is Lawson, Aflalo, Melo, Harrington, and Nene at +36, but it’s only the 13th most used lineup.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
The only difference in those two lineups
is Harrington for JR, which is counterintuitive.
Denver first.
Not sure why that would be counterintuitive
Playing a conventional two guard, two forwards, one center lineup works better in the NBA than a three guard, one SF, one Center lineup.
I know it’s shocking, but after many thousands of games played the long settled 2-2-1 lineup works better than G.K’s innovative 3-1-1.
It’s like when you are watching sports on TV. There is one camera angle that works best, but the production crews get bored and want to win awards for being innovative, so you end up with that court level shot where all you can see is the players butts.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions
way to commit there GAx:P
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haha, if I could guarantee shit I'd be in Vegas and not Jersey
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
Vegas may be the worst place I've ever been
Maybe Debuque, Iowa. Maybe. At least in Debuque you don’t get constantly hassled to get a hooker or a timeshare.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 1:04 PM MST up reply actions
I had a great time in Vegas once.
I was not hasseled by hookers at all.
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nor hassled either.
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There weren't a bunch of mute guys
on every street corner trying to shove hooker business cards into your hands which you had stuffed as far into your pockets as possible in a futile attempt to prevent their unwanted solicitations from ending up in your possession and requiring you to explain to your significant other why you had twenty business cards for hookers in the pockets to your jeans when she cleaned them out to do laundry?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions
Hey!
I almost played college basketball in Dubuque…then I visited and, Colorado State IM champion I became!
Founder of the only Joe Wolf fan club.
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Once witnessed Dwayne Schintzius (at the preempting of Antonio McDyess) drop, "Wanna be a balla, shot calla!" in the Nugs locker room
Landing at Dubuque was terrifying
One of those tiny planes with one seat on each side of the aisle. They had to ask your weight so they could balance the plane, and it was too small to stand up, you nearly had to crawl in. It was really windy, and the plane was going side to side. Out the window it was sky, pavement, sky, pavement. I have no idea how the pilot managed to save us all from a fiery death.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 2:11 PM MST up reply actions
Lost flash before your eyes?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
???
Knicks have leverage, but Melo will not be a happy camper if they could have got him his money but cheapskated it instead. Not a way to build a cohesive group by stiffing your incoming star.
That's a point I hadn't thought of before
And a selling point for the Nuggets on 2/25.
“You sure you want to play for a team that never made a serious offer that would have made you $20 million or more? We would have accomodated you if the Knicks didn’t try to lowball us.”
Denver first.
Carmelo's said he doesn't want to go to a team that guts itself to make space for him.
If the Knicks didn’t offer every available asset and acquiesce to everything Denver wants and a deal never gets done, I don’t know how much Melo would blame NY.
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 1:59 PM MST up reply actions
If they do trade Melo to NY
He’ll ask for a trade back to Denver as soon as Isiah takes back control of the team. Then Isiah would trade Melo back to Denver along with 3 first round picks for Balkman, Harrington, and a box of chocolates, partially eaten.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
yea
and he also said he doesnt want to give up 20+million.
he’s said both. you can take quotes and make them look anyway.
Personally, ill choose to ignore them all as they are all tainted and slanted.
Just pure speculation and knowledge of human nature though, i dont think someone would be happy losing 20 mil if there was another choice. I think melo wants that money and if the knicks try and lowball to wait until FA’s (not the nuggets the Knicks) i think he’ll be pissed. If its the Nugs who hold out i think he’ll take the pay cut and not be too upset, but if the Knicks try and lowball (brewer and WC anyone?), it’ll look like they just wanted to wait until FA and i think Melo wont be happy.
Who gives a shit if Melo's unhappy. If he's unhappy, stay in Denver. He knows the risks of holding out, and if he was gonna pout it's getting almost too late for that now.
But then, I don’t think he’d be unhappy about it.
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
unhappy stars
dont normally breed championships
I'd speculate, and it's definitely possible, but with this new CBA coming up it's impossible to forecast.
Considering revenues went up again this year, and the cap is tied to that under the current CBA, let’s say it goes up about $4M. Remember all the doomsdaying a year or two ago saying the cap for last summer would plummet to around $52M and it actually went up to $58M?
A good link for team salary caps: http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/knicks.jsp
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
?????
how can scoring numbers be inflated but rebounding numbers are not?
That makes 0 sense, there are more rebounds to go around if there are more shots being taken.
Rebounding is a skill and probably the most transferrable thing you can bring to the pro level from college.
That’s like saying anyone on the Cavs on any given night could be a 20 point scorer because there are so many opportunities for someone to score on that offensively-starved team.
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
He's just saying there are more rebounds available
If you get 10% of the available rebounds, and there are 50 missed shots in a game, you get 5 rebounds, but if you get 10% of 80 missed shots, then you get 8 rebounds. When you leave NY, the stats are going to go down.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
no its facts
if more shots more rebounds. therefore everyones numbers are slightly high.
If you looked at some of those advance metrics like rebounding % those would transfer but just straight stats wouldnt stay the same.
Fields has a TRB% of 12.6%.
Jason Kidd, regarded as a very good rebounding guard, has a rate of 10.5%. Fields just has an innate knack for rebounding as well as other areas of the game.
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
Do you know why it is so high?
It’s because the Knicks are awful at rebounding. There are a huge amount of available boards when the biggest Knick on the floor, Amare, has a TRB% of 13.1. Fields is a GOOD rebounder. Not great.
Stat inflation via two things: Pace and the fact that Amare, Wilson and Gallo are extremely poor rebounders.
totally wrong
More FGA= more rebounds to be had. Fields hustles his butt off on a marginally good team. Put him on a bad team and he’s out of the league in 2 years. The Cavs like hustle man Anderson Varejao have bigger contracts and better numbers because of Lebron, without him they are all mediocre at best. Field is just like that. Plus bigs come at a premium compared to wings.
Fields is not getting any better than what you see now. He’s a good hustle guy, that’s all
Pretty sure people thought Afflalo was even more limited, but they didn't know how he'd improve with every year.
Fields is like that. He might be like Taj Gibson in that he came into the league older than usual so his ceiling isn’t super-high, but the platform he’s starting out on right now is still pretty high.
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
The guy average 20 and 10 in college
And has almost improved every month in the NBA. That’s unfair to say that. If you looked at advanced stats (Pace adjusted) you’d see Fields is still a good player. He’s also a hard worker. And remember when Joakim Noah was just a hustle player? Look how much better he’s gotten, with hard work. He’s now considered a top 5 C in the league.
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by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 7, 2011 4:47 PM MST up reply actions
On a side note
Anyone ever had a dwarf hampster? I’m trying to train him to sit on my lap and watch Nugget games with me. Oley is a fiesty little shit though.
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What was a regular hamster too big?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
it is for my jimmy rigged cage
he’s living ina cheese ball container haha. And the littler they are the less they shit and piss. =) and no not Richard Gere why did he kill Hampsters or something?
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
Google Richard Gere and Gerbil
Though don’t do it at work.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
wow
never heard that but Oley has sharp claws and bites hard so i can’t even imagine. The things people do…. just scary.
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
Gerbils.......not hampsters
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True. It was a hamster.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 1:24 PM MST up reply actions
Small goat.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, because we’re talking about Denver right now. Try to follow the bouncing ball, mmmmkay?
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
No you're right. I wasn't jokingly tying this to Denver at all. Thanks.
Man, Boulder is a happening town.
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
I thought maybe you were joking, but it didn’t make any sense. And actually, hopefully a stoned granola god won’t strike me down for typing this, but I do prefer Denver over Boulder.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
Snopes said the trapped animal in question was a stoned granola god
(trying to bring it back to where we left off with small goat).
Denver first.
I like them both
and the hippies believe in Karma, not the stoned granola god. That’s Portland.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry Bob
Not a big fan of Boulder. I did raod construction there and lets just say I had to worry about most people either going 50 in a 25 and work zone in their BMW’s or riding their bikes on a concrete sidewalk I have clearly marked with Do Not Cross tape after i just poured it.
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Sorry about that
Too much pot and I go crazy for wet concrete. I zoom over in the beemer to get my mountain bike and try to put tire prints in it.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 1:58 PM MST up reply actions
hahahahaha
don’t worry my job was to put extended bike lanes in the road so hopefully now that will prevent most of those things from happening… or at least helping prevent it.
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Mr Gere was not living in Denver
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Nor do I believe was the alleged rodent/small farm animal from Denver.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
leeroy jenkins
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never thought
talking about my little Oley would bring up a situation like this hahaha
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It's really TIDBMTID's fault
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yesh yesh
it’s okay though.. you learn something new everyday
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Yeah, cuz no one else would have made that connection.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
We might have made the connection but probably not said it...
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that could be messy
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
This part of the conversation should just die before we all get banned...lol
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i didn't know
the joke untile now. and it is def over with.
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
true story, i searched on cheese ball cage and this is what i came up with
i dont kare if my wurds are spelt wrong.
by Over-and-back on Feb 7, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
That is just wrong.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
hahaha wtf?
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
Wow, Cage really let himself go.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 7, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
and grew two feet.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
Absolutely
they fell off while he was getting his bikini wax so he could wear that nut hammock.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
hahaha
Broutard. I like that even though I like Broussard more than Stein, Bucher, Hollinger, Ford etc.
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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 7, 2011 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
Looks like even Broussard is getting dragged into the mess
Of misreporting. The GMs are playing the media like fools, but I don’t know what their endgame is. Hopefully they will tell Nuggets fans what they are up to.
Seems like the only writer who hasn’t been sucked into the rumors has been Tomasson.
It is funny to think that the media personell can be played this easily though.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 7, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
/looks for another GN diatribe
I think we’re safe.
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Every ESPN NBA writer reported a different thing everyday while citing their "sources".
Sorry Stephen A, but a blogger, a reader, anyone will lose confidence in a reporter who keeps changing their story. I honestly only really trust what Hahn of Newsday says now. Too many reporters’ sources are apparently team execs or agents who use them for their own PR gain.
by GAx on Feb 7, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
oh them....meh
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As a Knicks fan…The one thing I don’t get is all this talk about D’Antoni inflated #‘s. The Nuggets play at pretty much the same pace. Also the supposed trade that ESPN shows is nothing short of hilarious. There is no way on earth Denver would do that. That’s far from fair and would be considered robbery in most states!
It's not just pace
it’s the offensive system he runs. It’s much better than what Karl runs and gets him players better shots. There is a long history of players going downhill after parting from D’antoni.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
like who? Marion?
Marion was a great athletic player for awhile with the Suns but he’s old now and just not that good anymore because of age. Quentin Richardson was never good, he just had one season where he drained a lot of 3’s
Look at Marion, Bell, Barbosa, and House after they left Dantoni’s system: all mediocre.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 3:35 PM MST up reply actions
OK...
I have heard many things but I also heard that Amar’e would be terrible without Nash and that he is a product of Nash. I guess that was pretty wrong.
Amare's stats will go way down if Melo is traded there
He’s in Juwan Howard territory now where his stats are inflated by being by far the best player on the team, in addition to the D’antoni system.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 3:42 PM MST up reply actions
U r wrong with Amare
He is a true superstar in every sense of the word. Fucking beast.
I was clamoring for the Nugs to sign and trade Nene for him in the offseason but I guess the Nugs FO is just too shortsighted for that.
Defensively he is a liability. His knees could go anytime.
A bit of hyperbole to call him “a true superstar in every sense of the word.” Especially since he hasn’t won a title.
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anyone's knees can go anytime
it’s been almost 5 years since his knee injury. the dude is a beast. just accept it.
I think he is a top player
but his stats would go down playing alongside Melo, as Melo would take a bunch of his shots.
I wouldn’t touch stoudemire with a 10 foot pole. The suns have the best training staff in the league by far and they wouldn’t give him more than a three year guaranty. If they don’t think they can keep him healthy, the Nuggets have no chance.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 5:03 PM MST up reply actions
Theres
Gotta be a way to swing Chandler to someone for a pick. That way the Nuggets can get their 2 first rounders and expirings and MAYBE knicks can throw in fields if they have to to get it done
but Randolph gets you the second pick
Either you get 2 picks or you get Randolph and a pick
I agree
That’s why I don’t like the notion that the T-Wolves and Knicks three way is the best deal out there, or that playing the season out is still a legit option.
So, we don’t like Chandler (or whoever else the Knicks are offering), that doesn’t mean other teams don’t. I’m pretty sure we could swing Randolph to the Wolves for a first, then turn back around and flip Chandler for another first from a different team, and then likely be able to still get Fields or another player if we gave up some of ours.
Point it, there are a million possibilities, so settling for something like what’s being proposed now is simply inexcusable.
Hyperboles kill.
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Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
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That's being too kind
I’d say he’s definitely on the steady decline… he hit his ceiling 2 years ago and has been down ever since
I guess he's exciting...
If you like watching someone going for EVERY pump fake and fouling a bunch, as well as getting flat out pwned on D all the time
It's kind of exciting too, to see increasing levels....
… of comical self-mutilation every three months or so.
Denver first.
Did you guys pick him or did kiki after you just traded us the pick?
I always thought that that was the Nuggets who picked Nene.
Denver first.
He was the 7th pick in 02'. Drafted by the Knicks and then the Knicks trades Camby, Nene and Mark Jackson for McDyess and Frank Williams.
The Knicks got owned on that trade. Turned out REALLY bad for us. Nuggets made out big time with Camby and Nene
Well then, thank you.
Kiki probably would have used that pick to draft skitischvili’s 14 year old little brother.
Denver first.
I can't remember...
All I remember was Knicks fans boooo’d really loud when they heard Nene Hilario drafted
Doesn't that happen every time?
I swear, the Knicks could draft Michael Jordan and they’d still boo.
Hyperboles kill.
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Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
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Everyone always Boo's because the Knicks always draft foreigners and they always suck
Frederick Weiss among others, then Nene whose actually from Brazil i think, even D’anilo Galinari when they coulda taken Eric Gordon. Gallo has turned out alright tho
The one thing I don't understand....
Denver can’t really call the shots since they are at Melo’s will. I understand you guys are pissed and frustrated by this whole trade scenario but Melo is in th drivers seat when it comes to his future. If Denver holds on to him, he’ll just walk at the end of the year. And there is no way on earth he will lose these supposed 40 million that some say. The CBA will not have a superstar make substantial less than other superstars. It will not happen. Who knows what will happen with Melo.
These assholes
I’d love to just make an extra 10k this next year for a little extra peace of mind on our family’s monthly budget. Can you imagine just walking away from $10 million?
Denver first.
I've never understood this argument
So there are what 8 million people in New York? And about $2 million in Denver. So there is a bigger market in NY, I understand, but is there really that much in local endorsements? Seems like the real money is in the national endorsements like Nike, which he gets no matter where he lives. Do the local pizza joints really pay that much for an endorsement?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 3:49 PM MST up reply actions
*2 million people, not $2 million
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 3:50 PM MST up reply actions
there's just under 3 million in the Denver area
if you include Boulder and Longmont.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 7, 2011 4:04 PM MST up reply actions
I've got a friend in Longmont
who thinks she lives in a “small town”. She’s from New York, so I guess 3 million is a “small” town.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 4:09 PM MST up reply actions
Your number is seriously incorrect......
There is almost 19 million people leaving in the NY Metropolitan area. That is just a little difference.
his number was correct
He was talking about the Denver area … and that 3 million is a “small town” to New Yorkers
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 7, 2011 4:29 PM MST up reply actions
Go read what throwitdownbigmanthrowitdown
said, and it was in reference to his friend thinking 3 million people was a small town. Then you replied that he has his numbers wrong, either you were replying to something else or got your threads mixed up because it seems like you’re not following what he was replying to.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 7, 2011 4:35 PM MST up reply actions
I lived in LA and Lima, Peru
Sadly, Denver, at least to me, still feels like a smaller metro area. I know it is not, because I have been there so many times, just living in LA county, which has a ton of people, not counting the illegals, and Lima, which is HUGE.
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All I'm asking
is how much money in local endorsements is there, really? Sure there are a crapload of people in NY, but it is still small potatoes compared to national endorsements. The pizza joint and the local car dealer can only pay so much for an athlete to awkwardly endorse their product.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 4:47 PM MST up reply actions
It's like 70,000 people.
I work there and live in Lyons. Lyons is a small town but Longmont has every amenity you need without leaving.
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Michael Wilbon on PTI kinda went off about how the Nuggets are screwing
over George Karl with this trade debacle.
Dunno. I’m more concerned about the fans than I am with a coach with a titanic ego. He will survive.
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I like Wilbon
but that makes no sense.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 4:26 PM MST up reply actions
that this whole episode has been botched by the Nuggets
and it’s “unfair to George Karl”. Kind of a weird rant. Yes, this has been botched by the Nuggets but to say that it’s only unfair to George Karl is kinda laughable
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 7, 2011 4:33 PM MST up reply actions
You can tell
Wilbon and Korn are not really informed about what is really going on.
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Brewer is a great defender
If that helps.
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 7, 2011 4:21 PM MST reply actions
I think if NY wants to get Denver's attention for a trade, they have to do something involving Al Harrington and/or Chris Andersen, b/c besides money, they rly have no assets
I said it earlier, and I agree with you. This offer is actually worse than a giant TPE in the off-season, that doesn’t even factor in the possibility of a franchise tag or Melo re-signing and a playoff run.
If this is the Knicks offer, then Melo will be a Nugget after the deadline and I’m happy b/c I’ve always been on the keep him side.
Not really...
There is no chance of the NBA Players Union agreeing to a franchise tag. Do you not see what Lebron has started? The superstars want to play together. Essentially, the Nuggets are renting Melo if they don’t trade him at the dead line. You will lose him for nothing at all. Go ask Toronto about that!
They have to do something
It may not be a franchise tag, it could be that changing teams means you earn half as much on a maximum deal, or it could be setting minimum compensation for losing a max player, or some other idea, but if this continues, it could bankrupt the league. You can’t have 25 teams with no chance to be good much less contend. If you have multiple teams in the playoffs every year with losing records, it would be a disaster.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 4:36 PM MST up reply actions
Chandler would play for us
if the money is right, he will want what Ben Gordan is getting in Detroit, and trust me, Gordan is making nearly as much money as Deng and plays at a significantly lower quality than Deng.
Maybe taking Curry’s contract and just getting rid of K-mart, Curry, etc etc. at the end of the year would be a good idea.
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No way the Nuggets pay Chandler
take that to the bank. The way this “proposal” is structured is purely for salary relief. Since Chandler is a restricted free agent, and the Nuggets wanted to retain him, they would ask NY to offer him an extend and trade.
Otherwise he’s just be an expiring contract like Brewer.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 7, 2011 4:39 PM MST up reply actions
plus, with Chandler saying he's not enamored with Denver
even if the Nuggets wanted him, he would try to get a team to inflate a contract so the Nuggets won’t match.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 7, 2011 4:41 PM MST up reply actions
well why not follow Miamis strategy
and take on as much expirings as possible? Curry, K-Mart, that would get rid of those contracts at the end of the year for what? 27 million? We could go for Marc Gasol (restricted), the restricted Beasley, restricted Batum, restricted McGee, Jeff Green (Restricted), Ersan Ilyasova (unrestricted).
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Restricted teams have the right to match
so you only get them by vastly overpaying or by trading them other assets. See Martin, Kenyon.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 4:50 PM MST up reply actions
without doing anything, and the Nugget buying out Chauncey
at the end of the year, the Nuggets will shed just about $52 million. All expirings would do is be place holders till they are shed till the end of the season.
With there likely to be a lockout, the Nuggets don’t have many options outside of trying to get draft picks. Free agents tend to not want to come to Denver…
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 7, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
but you can get a good price on restricteds
if the current team can’t afford to keep that player, and all the players I said above play in less lucrative and smaller or about the same medium market the Nuggets play for.
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No you can't
if the price is reasonable, they just match the contract and trade them to another team. You have to overpay or trade assets.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 5:00 PM MST up reply actions
well, are there any resticted free agents that you think
would be worth overpaying? Everyone does it with bigs, so I don’t think anyone here would mind overpaying for Mcgee.
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Can't overpay for anyone
otherwise you lose all flexibility and can’t take advantage of opportunities when the arise. The team has been in cap jail for too long to go back in now.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 7, 2011 5:05 PM MST up reply actions
Even big market teams have to overpay sometimes
look at Luol Deng. He’s a good player, but he’s not great. Chicago has been trying to unload his contract for awhile now.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Feb 7, 2011 5:06 PM MST up reply actions
every team that has won a championship
in the past 10 years had an over-payed contract in there somewhere, what the hell are the Nuggets going to do if there roster is full of crap like Brewer for 4 years, or Randolph for 4 years.. do we really want to go back to the Nuggets of the late 90’s and early 00’s?
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"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."
Yea, that is Bruce Lee in my picture.
Brewer is expiring next year
He has a team option.
but that is why you would take the expiring contracts
and shed money at years end. It worked for Miami, they are in top contention right now, yes it was Lebron and Bosh but there is a higher number of good quality players than last year. Beasley? He has upswing, plays like Melo and could be worth it.
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So easy to say now
Try saying that when we’re perennial lottery contenders. NOBODY is going to want to sign in Denver if that’s the case, nobody. Plus, overpaying for talent in this league is as common as Charlie Sheen overdosing these days. Everyone overpays, everyone.
Hyperboles kill.
Never underestimate the power of infatuation towards athletes.
There's no such thing as a debate, unless there is a judge present; everything else is just an argument.
Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
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Why would we want Ersan
he shots way too much at way too low of a %.
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Take it to the bank huh?
So you’re telling me you honestly believe that Denver would be trading specifically with the Knicks ONLY for salary cap relief? That is insane. Look, I haven’t been impressed either, but they are a hell of a lot smarter than that Jeff.
If they strictly wanted cap relief, they’d trade Melo to the Kings. If they’re trading for Chandler, and he’s a restricted free agent, you better believe they have every intention of matching for him, even if it costs a little more. And THIS ladies and gentlemen, MIGHT very well be the MOST overrated aspect of this situation: the money Chandler will fetch as a free agent. If you guys honestly believe he’s getting Luol Deng type money, you need to march your butts right down to the hospital right now and have your head checked. Chandler is NOT that type of player, and he’s certainly NOT getting that type of money ESPECIALLY under the new CBA which is looking to lower players salaries. As for the argument that he won’t be willing to play in Denver, he’s NOT Carmelo Anthony. We’ll get him here, tell him to shut his mouth, and play basketball because A) we’re going to pay him, and B) he’s got the chance to start here, where as in N.Y. he’s going to be nothing more than in the shadow of Melo coming off the bench. See people, Chandler doesn’t have that type of credibility or reputation; not even close. Maybe he’ll be disgruntled for a few months, but eventually he’ll come around and if he doesn’t we ship him off for a first rounder or someone else! It’s that easy.
Hyperboles kill.
Never underestimate the power of infatuation towards athletes.
There's no such thing as a debate, unless there is a judge present; everything else is just an argument.
Move over Melo, there's a new #15 in town.
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chandler puts up almost exactly the same stats as luol deng
he’s only 23 and has no serious injury history. you really think he won’t get something similar? the “inflated” stats argument won’t stop some team from throwing money at him. it might be less due to the CBA but if the salary cap goes down, his contract will take up the same piece of the pie that deng’s does now. you know he’s gonna get PAID.
Source?
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I heard in on the Fan, sports radio
Karl said it was excused and he will play tonight.
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Thanks..!
I just read the article which says much more than “Melo is a no show at the shootaround”.
But quick everyone, you must get to speculating immediately!
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And now for the rest of the story.
George Karl said it was an excused absence and is expected to play tonight
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Probabaly not.
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I swear
its like I don’t even exist here.
"We'll move the Earth for A Title"
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."
Yea, that is Bruce Lee in my picture.
sorry friend...I think we were posting at about the same time!
You beat me by a minute…I didn’t see your post before or I wouldn’t have posted mine..
Truly sorry
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I know, I was only mocking you :P
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I know. I got the joke...which made me feel bad...but then I realized it was like at the same time.
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What is the point of tweeting or writing that article
IF IT WAS AN EXCUSED ABSENSE. Just to rile everyone up?
Because other press would have said, "Where's Melo"
so better just to address it immediately. The tweeter could have been more complete.
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He's only got 135 or so characters and a limited use of the grammar and spelling.
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Must be hard to tweet
Melo no show at shootaround, but it’s an excused absence.
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you used a comma and a period.
You’re wasting characters unnecessarily.
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But it still is less than 135 characters, right?
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I'm not counting but probably.
It just seems even with the short ones that have chance of going over you still have to employ poor grammar and spelling.
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Ohhhh. I gotcha.....
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Yes, but if he doesn't play or it gets exposed it was a bullshit excuse then Karl's lying
for Melo and that doesn’t really seem likely.
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Doubtful.....
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Everyone here
Is vastly underrating Chandler. He can light up the opposing team with his athleticism.
Chandler is good, Problem is recently he's been playing like turd.
Probably because of the trade rumors and slight injury
The post article's quote from JR is interesting
Makes me think something is more imminent.
I’m surprised JR didn’t say “we should bench his ass, missing practice… Sheez!”
Denver first.
Even JR isn't THAT stupid.....(I hope)
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Starting center Nene is out for the Nuggets tonight vs. Houston due to illness.
Meloooooo!!!
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Stop Snitchin!!!
I may be wrong but I doubt it!!
If you want a better deal for Melo from the Nets, then Nuggets can control the situation. Here's how:
The assumption is that Melo wants to get the Money Now rather than risk up to $40 million total by waiting to this summer.
If Ujiri were to contact Billy King (no leaks) and put in writing a deal similar to what King was OK with in the past (Favors+Murphy+ choice of 2 first round picks (likely Lottery)+$3 million), then all that Nuggets need to do to get Melo to agree (to his 2nd choice – The Nets) is to..
Threaten to trade Melo to Dallas or elsewhere or even to keep him with Denver without the extension.
As long as Melo would finally concede to signing with Nets, then I am certain that Proky would allow Billy King to make the trade.
Melo knew of that possibility by his reaction at a recent Hockman interview. Melo said “I’m screwed”. That is because Nuggets control his destiny as long as Melo wants the money now.
It might even be possible to get the Nets to take Harrington’s bad contract (Nets won’t give up Harris or Morrow any more).
Melo’s agent has supposedly been telling other teams that Melo will only sign with Knicks. However, there is no word that Billy King has been notified. And since Troy Murphy hasn’t yet been traded, that could be a sign that Melo hasn’t ruled out the Nets as an alternative.
by jerry25 on Feb 7, 2011 8:12 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
looking at the ny trades, the nets deal is a wet dream.
i would shit myself with glee if masai managed to somehow pull it off with joysee. i just dont think melo is down with nj. i didnt always think that, but thats why im thinking proky killed the deal. clearly many on this site think masai pushed his luck too far and thats why proky merked that shit. im hoping once melos fate is decided the whole story comes out on why nj fell through.
for the time being though, the nj deal is just soggy sheets and more laundry…./tears
by calvin brodus on Feb 7, 2011 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
I am certain that it was Proky who killed the deal on his own for 2 reasons (rest of Nets FO knew nothing ahead of time).
1. Proky didn’t like the way Ujiri/Kroenke kept changing the goal posts and King said in interview that they weren’t even serious about trading Melo until the last week. King was told to make a deal for Melo, but in the end, he was competing without any competition. Ujiri/Kroenke just went too far.
2. Proky didn’t want to get go along with meeting with Melo without any guarantee. It seemed that Melo wasn’t ready to make a commitment Prokhorov’s reputation would have been damaged. Instead he comes out looking decisive.
However, as long as Nuggets are prepared to reject Knicks offer(s) as most of you would like, then as long as Melo wants the money now, then Nuggets are in control (if they try again to trade him to Nets).
SI's Chris Mannix reported yesterday that Minny is not interested in trading Corey Brewer to Nuggets:
And I’m not sure why Minny would agree to absorb the $11 million contract of Curry?
I’ll bet Kroenke would be stuck with that contract.
All we know is that Minny has some interest in Randolph.
Nothing is happening. This is going to go on for 2 more weeks.
Best option is to threaten Melo if he doesn’t accept trade to Nets.
He doesn’t want to get traded to the Nets get over it already Sheesh!!
Meloooooo!!!
JR Swish From Way Down Town!!!
Stop Snitchin!!!
I may be wrong but I doubt it!!
It is up to Ujiri and Proky. Not Melo. Not you.
Melo wants the money, and that will be the only way he gets it.
If Ujiri trades Melo to Knicks for peanuts, he will eventually be fired when Nuggets become Raptors 2.0.
as a nets fan, and a fan of karma, all i have to say about this deal is
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA………..HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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