It's time to engage the Lakers in a Melo-for-Bynum trade...

Maybe LA would do it and it would definitely be better then the Knicks deal but to have to trade Melo to the Lakers and seeing them win a championship would just be too difficult too handle.

Nate did some snooping on twitter and it seems like the “pick” would be Minnesota’s 2014 pick because of a rule prohibiting the Wolves from trading their own picks two years in a row.

Lovely. A stiff, a guy who doesn’t want to play in Denver and a pick in 2014.

thinking about trading Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelo for the 2nd most injury-prone center in the league I might piss myself!!!! Couldn’t be better if you ask me! A big soft-hearted guy that is just waiting to break his next knee cap!? Hallelujah!

it could work probably, Melo would look like the biggest fool in the league if he were to leave LA for the Knicks. Still, making the Lakers the top contender from a team potentially in its downfall is an idea that makes me vomit.

yeah i’d rather take my chances with what cuban’s got. (and coming from me who isn’t the biggest cuban fan, that’s saying something)

when he is healthy, he is dominant, but the problem is he is never healthy and when you get older these injuries just keep coming back. At best we would only get 65 games a year from him for 15,000,000 a year.

I think that if we could pursue Beasley when he is available would be a great idea, he is on a 2 year contract and makes 5,000,000 a year, if we could somehow get him then we can build around Beasley because he plays exactly like Melo and for pennies on the dollar, not to mention he has a better FG% and averages a mediocre but solid 5.7 rebounds a game. If we could get him (this year, offseason or the year after when his contract is up and getting a big man like Gasol, Vajo, etc etc., and tweaking out our bench problems we could be back contending in no time.

Jackson would be great to help Melo, but he stated last week that this will be his last season, no matter what the outcome is. Who is going to take the reins of that team? Melo would thrive in LA, but would Kobe cede the power away? I highly doubt it, even if it brings Kobe more championships than any other player, he would not allow someone to be the #1 on his team.

Brewer plays no defense, can’t shoot and is a slasher passer, be should be riding pine on a good team and I would not want him. Chandler might play for us if he is offered way more than he is worth (he will most likely want 10,000,000 a year for his services) after this year and he would cripple us into mediocrity.

The only thing worthy about this trade are the draft picks, which could be a good thing but it is a crummy offer if you think about it, I think that riding the season out would be a better idea still.

But apparently Stephen A. broke it way before.

OK, diatribe time!!!

I’m sorry, but I think it’s officially time for bloggers to stop making fun of legitimate, world-renowned sports reporters and their “sources”. Sure, it’s frustrating not knowing who exactly these “sources” are, but does that automatically give you the right – as a blogger for crying out loud – to sit here on your high horse and criticize these guys like they’re selling their souls to the Devil? NEWSFLASH: These are real (believe it or not) guys who went through years of hardship and dedication to fulfill their career requirements, and you’re gonna sit back behind behind the protection of your computer screen and rag on them like it’s your job? Really? Really? The glorified “fan” who happens to express his/her opinion through a large outlet is going to try and pin down one famous journalist after another just because you don’t believe, or can’t trust their “sources.” Guess what? Sadly, you don’t know the half as a blogger, and often times preach what you criticize as well (like when Jeff tells EVERYONE not to believe a word from Sheridan, even though he’s been right from the get-go, and to believe his little personal “sources” and what not) – basically making you a hypocrite. It’s just ridiculous what this blog has turned into at times. I used to follow it for Nuggets news and analysis, but now, half the time when I come here I’m getting Jeffery Morton or Andrew Feinstein’s “opining” position on the national media. Really guys, I hate to break it to you, but I JUST DONT GIVE A DAMN about how you feel in regards to the media!!! I come here for NUGGETS news, NOT how you feel about the credibility of “sources”!!! I’m sorry if I’m the only one who’s extremely tired of hearing your worn out record, day in and day out about sports media, but I’ve had it up to here (pointing to the brim of my hat) with glorified fans thinking they know everything there is to know about the journalism industry. You simply don’t and to people who actually have a background in this category, you just look more and more vulnerable, naive and flat out ridiculous with each passing diatribe. Believe it or not, there’s actual reasons, as to why “sources” are kept confidential. I know that probably blows your universe into a million freakin’ pieces, but it’s true. But you know what, you guys just go ahead and preach your brainwashing material of incompetence regarding this subject and those who are actually informed will just look at you as a complete sham of a joke. Please, I’m sooooooooooo glad I can be informed by Andrew Feinstein and Jeffery Morton – two fans, just like me – that know EVERYTHING there is to know on the subject of ethical and legal issues in the sports journalism world. THANK GOD!!! What would I do without you’re guidance?!?!?!

As for actual basketball related information,…

The Bynum deal is a pipe-dream and a terrible one at that. Bynum is consistently one of the more overrated players in the entire league, and worst of all: he’s never healthy. Go look at his contract too; it’s egregious. And of course, on top of all this, I don’t see any situation in which we would deal with the Fakers unless they offered us a no-brainer deal, which is not happening anytime soon.

If this deal did go down, ehh, whatever. At this point, I’ll just be happy to finally get this entire debauchery over with. Brewer is alright, and Chandler is pretty good, but that first round pick from the T-Wolves could end up being cash money millionaires. With Khan at the helm, and just for the simple fact that they’re the T-Wolves, anytime you can get a first rounder, you’re golden. I see no reason whatsoever to belive that they’re going to be good anytime soon after how bad they’ve missed in the draft in recent years. Would I rather have Randolph? Probably, but a first from the Wolves I can dig anyday.

Bynum and Nene would give the Nuggets a powerful inside game, maybe the best in the League. Throw in great perimeter players like Ty, AAA, Chauncey and JR, and you have a pretty interesting core. Plus, it might force the Knicks to throw in Landry Fields into their offer.

I did some digging with the help of reader Bigdorph and a Tweet from Eric Pincus to determine the Minny draft pick would be their 2014 pick at the earliest. Read about it here.

If your post was to get “a rise” out of your fellow stiffs, you succeeded! If you were serious about your post – must be some good stuff you you had at 12:41 am when you wrote this – Lakers? Wow! Entertaining reading – like reading a comic strip

And the whole reason that there have been all these trade rumors is b/c Denver doesn’t want to lose Melo for nothing, but the proposed Knicks offer would be doing such. It would be better to just ride the season out and have Melo for the playoffs than renting two decent wings but far far inferior to Melo.

If Denver really wants to re-sign Chandler then they could just let Melo walk and use the cap space to sign Wilson to a big offer (or work out a sign and trade with Melo for Chandler).

Honestly, at this point, a TPE and a pick via sign and trade would be better then this current offer.

is that people for the most part have said ‘melo isnt the cornerstone of a team’, ‘melo will not win a championship for your team’, ‘melo is over-rated as a player’ and so on. many people seem to think of melo as the black hole of the nuggets. if any of this is true, then why are you not glad that he could be traded to the lakers. in such a scenario, if you weren’t talking out of your collective butts and what you say about melo not being a ‘franchise player’ is true then la would be guaranteed to not win a championship while he is there. you should either breath a sigh of relief or think before you post.

Bynum just looks to me like he’d rather be having a quiet chat with his family. He catches fire once in a while, but I doubt he’ll ever make a difference on an NBA team for long stretches. Plus, those consistent injuries…

Probably isn’t happening. Just as we have seen with countless other rumors, this will probably not be true also.
I really think that Ujiri is leaking it to drive up the price for Melo. If Wark is working on a deal, the actual deal will be quiet and no rumor would precede it.

The only reason Minni is even involved is because of their interest in Randolph. If it wasn’t for him, they wouldn’t be in discussions with us. It has got to be our job to make them more interested in some of our players (i.e. Al Harrington) so that in turn, we can land some of their more attractive assets. What about something like:

NY – gets Melo

Denver – gets Chandler, Wesley Johnson and a future first

Minni – gets Randolph, Fields, Al Harrington, Curry’s fat ass

I mean, I definitely like the idea of Johson coming here more than I do Corey freakin’ Brewer.

Why the Wolves do it: If they’re willing to give up a first rounder for Randolph (when they really probably only need to give up a second) then they obviously like the kid, a lot. And Fields at this point, looks better than Johson, and SG is a position they desperately need. You throw it Al, who’s a guy that can fill it up somtimes, and I think there’s enough solid assets coming back their way for them to pull the trigger. Plus, Khan is still at the helm remember? Anything is possible with that guy.

The only thing that I wouldn’t be sure of is if NY would do it knowing Melo’s going to be there next season, but I’m pretty sure if this deal got put together and was ready to be finalized, NY would sign off. There’s really no room for Chandler there anyways with Melo, Randolph doesn’t even get playing time, and although Fields is nice, he’s certainly not going to be a deal breaker I’d imagine.

i honestly can’t believe that we’ve arrived at this point where our options are:

A) Trade Melo for crap (Wilson Chandler is depressed cuz he doesn’t want to go to Denver; Brewer is lousy; and a 2014 1st Round Pick?)

B) We keep Melo til the end and get “Ledbroned or Boshed”!

This is very difficult to swallow – how can you back a team that has a FO of incompetents.
Unless something special happens in 18 days, this will be a nightmare.

Largely for the reasons mentioned above. Melo frankly doesn’t bring enough to the table beyond scoring and rebounding to justify losing the linchpin of the Lakers’ defense, as Gasol has been rather inadequate as a full-time center on defense this year. I don’t think Kobe and Melo sharing the ball would be that big a deal, as either can operate in the post and can really do everything on offense besides being spot-up shooters for each other. That said, the Lakers don’t really have a backup at the five right now with Ratliff out, and this trade would indirectly force Gasol to play more minutes and give time to inadequate replacements like Caracter or Artest masquerading as a four. The Lakers’ primary strength (besides Kobe obviously) has been their frontcourt rotation for the past three years and there’s really no incentive to change that right now.

and wilson chandler will just fuck us over in the end…..the original New York deal was better than this.

Monta Ellis and Biedrins for Melo. These other trades doom the Nugs.

Maybe if we wait to closer to the trade deadline AND some other teams show interest in renting Melo OR NJ shows interest again we can ask for one more Knick player besides Wilson Chandler such as:

1. Landry Fields
2. Gallinari
3. Bill Walker
4. Randolph
5. That big Russian Center – Mogzov (sp?)
6. Toney Douglas

Fields would be my choice but the way its heading – give me SOMEBODY besides Chandler and please no Corey Brewer – though the 2014 pick I think would be nice

True – but really the way we play on the road, not likely we win a series AND even if we won a road game, these playoff teams are good, real good and they likely would return the favor and beat us once at the can – so…………come on Dempsey, get real!

…should be a non-starter and completely unacceptable to everyone in Nuggets Nation. If the deal turns out to have legs, I’ll say as much in a full column soon.

But in terms of gamesmanship, making a Melo deal, etc, I adamantly believe the Nuggets should try to engage the Lakers if for no other reason than to get a better deal out of the Knicks.

People on this site have been stating the fact the closer to the deal deadline, the WORSE the packages will become. I have no clue why people are suddenly up in arms about this latest three-team trade with Minny. You should have expected it. It’s simple negotiation strategy: the closer you are to losing your asset for zero, the more willing you’ll be to sell it on the cheap. People on Ebay and craigslist know about this, I have no clue why our FO wouldn’t. The only thing I’m surprised about the offer is Minny willing to even part with a 2014 1st for Randolph.

This is exactly why I wanted a deal done before training camp. This is why I wanted to jump at the NJ at any time previously, not caring about the side parts like dumping Al Harrington. That’s like holding up the sale of a new Mercedes because the windshield wiper blades need to be replaced. Now we’re stuck in the unenviable position of having decreasing leverage and likely only one destination for Melo. I blame our FO completely and absolutely for this. I said a while back that Ujiri and/or Kroenke(s) would come out of this looking like geniuses or complete idiots. Short of a miracle among miracles, it’s leaning decidedly toward the latter at this point.

Probably the most under reported item out there is the Stein article from a few weeks ago that says that the Knicks can’t really afford Melo. In order to get him in the off season and pay him anything close to 18 million they would at a minimum have to:
1. Renounce Chandler
2. Get rid of Anthony Randolph and Tony Douglas and possibly Mosgov and not bring back salary.

This is assuming that the cap is not more restrictive than it already is (which may be a big assumption). Denver will still have some options in the off season despite what Broutard says and should really consider keeping Melo and hoping for a Franchise tag.

the Carmelo trade with Minny and New York would be a lot like the half time show at the superbowl, it would make your head explode.

Now, if Melo would be willing to go to Chicago and play in a Noah/Boozer/Melo/Rose and win a few championships how about we do this trade

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5va2oxx

Ok so Deng is not worth 11 mil a year but come on, this deal is better than the crap New York is offering and Melo cements his legacy playing in a big market near his roots.

If LA is willing to trade Bynum 4 Melo then how about this trade.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=62y5a3d

Denver- We get Bynum, Caron’s expiring contract, a young big in Derrik Character, and we also get rid of Al Harringtons god awful contract.

Dallas- They get a a player then can take over Caron’s spot at the 3.

LA- They get Melo, Sheldon who can rebound and play D behind Pau, and a young sf to come off the bench.

This is probably will never happen but who knows right.

He’s not all he’s cracked up to be.