Golden Nuggets: Out west, you gotta go BIG...
by Andrew Feinstein on Dec 5, 2011 8:00 AM MST
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The days of playing "small ball" in Nuggets Nation are over. Or at least they should be...
In a recent interview with the Denver Post's Benjamin Hochman, Nuggets head coach George Karl tipped his hand regarding the most likely 2011-12 lineup that Nuggets fans everywhere have been yearning for...
Hochman: If Nene returns, is your lineup Ty Lawson, Arron Afflalo, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov and Nene?
Karl: I'm not going to write that in stone, but that's probably what we're looking at.
FINALLY!
Many - including me - have been fearing that Karl would stubbornly stick with Nene starting at center, the spot the 6'9" Brazillian has admirably anchored for several seasons now, even though he is playing out of position there. But now that Karl has come around to the inevitable starting five that best serves the Nuggets, it may be too late. After all, Nene's future in Denver is most uncertain at present and I'm not sure I like his chances of staying when I hear numbers north of $12 million being thrown around for his services.
The bottom line is that a Gallo / Nene / Moz front line absolutely will be able to compete with the Western Conference's elite front line trios, including the Lakers' potent Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, the Mavericks' Dirk Nowitzki, Tyson Chandler (if he stays in Dallas) and Shawn Marion, the Grizzlies' Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol and Rudy Gay, the Thunder's Kevin Durant, Serge Ibaka and Kendrick Perkins, the Spurs' Tim Duncan, Antonio McDyess and DeJuan Blair, the Trailblazers' LaMarcus Aldridge, Nicolas Batum and Marcus Camby and the Jazz's up-and-coming big man foursome of Al Jefferson, Enes Kanter, Paul Millsap and Derrick Favors.
But even if Nene Hilario isn't re-signed and Karl is tempted to play small - as the coach himself routinely admits (and has shown) that he isn't afraid to do - the Nuggets should stick with their other bigs like Kosta Koufos, Kenneth Faried, Al Harrington and Chris Andersen and stand boldly tall. Because while the gimmickry of two point guards playing beside one another with Arron Afflalo at small forward may win you a few regular season games, it's not a long term solution nor a blueprint for postseason success. Lest we forget how ineffective the Ty Lawson / Raymond Felton duo was against Oklahoma City in last season's 4-1 loss to the Thunder in the playoffs (although to be somewhat fair, Afflalo was hurt for that series and Karl had little choice).
Simply put, with very few exceptions size has always mattered in the NBA. Sure, the 2003-04 Detroit Pistons were able to best the 7'1", 300-pound Shaquille O'Neal-led Lakers with the 6'9" Ben Wallace manning the center position. But that was the rarest of rare exceptions in a sea of evidence to the contrary. Last season's championship Mavericks were a big team. As were the 2008-2010 Lakers, the 2007-08 Celtics, the 2006-07 Spurs and so on.
Back to the do-we or don't-we re-sign Nene question, within the context of needing to play BIG out west...
I think all my fellow Stiffs are in agreement that we don't want the Nuggets to overpay for a 29-year-old previously oft-injured, overly sensitive (a $50-million, four-year contract is a sign of "disrespect"? Are you kidding me?!), and fourth-quarter fading power forward. But that doesn't change the fact that Nene had his best season ever in 2010-11, should be able to replicate, if not exceed, last season's production by moving to power forward and should be spelled more often with the development of Mozgov, Faried and Koufos plus a healthy Andersen and Harrington. Oh, and the top-tier Western Conference front lines aren't getting any smaller, especially when Dwight Howard gets traded from Orlando to Los Angeles for Bynum and Odom (you just know that's happening).
Throw in Nene's comfort level with Coach Karl and - in the absence of Kenyon Martin - his ascendancy as the veteran leader for the Nuggets' young big men, and you start piecing together just why re-signing Nene is of the utmost importance.
Just not with max dollars, of course.
On to the links...
Nuggets and the Nene dilemma - CBSSports.com
Ken Berger describes why Masai Ujiri and the Nuggets aren't - nor should they be - panicking over the Nene situation and goes as far as to suggest the Nuggets use the 66-game schedule as a rebuilding opportunity.
Andre Miller back to contribute again to Denver Nuggets - The Denver Post
Hochman catches up with former and now current Nuggets point guard Andre Miller who - shockingly - admits to not being in great shape.
Arron is one popular Afflalo - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN
Marc Stein writes about the many suitors for the Arron Afflalo, a restricted free agent.
Everyone’s after Nene and David West, apparently - Ball Don't Lie - NBA Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Kelly Dwyer foresees a Nene re-signing being yet another example of a small market team overpaying badly to keep its own player.
Nuggets' George Karl Q&A: Nene an important cog - The Denver Post
Hochman interviews the Nuggets head coach and goes over everything from Nene's future to the coach's health.
Masai Ujiri improbably climbed ranks to become Denver Nuggets GM - SI.com
Ian Thomsen wrote this interesting piece on Ujiri before the lockout ended.
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I've come to believe that Nene getting pretty close to the Max
First, he is considered the #1 Big out there.
Second, there are teams willing to “overpay” because they need the cred. (like Denver with K-Mart) … of course where Nene wants to play is part of that.
Third, if you crave a Big, Nene’s a very good Big so if he’s worth $12 why isn’t he worth $14, $15, and pretty soon he’s a Max player.
Yes, as written earlier, it is Nene or bust for the Nuggets,
Without Nene the Nuggets will only have a mediocre season, with Nene there is a outside chance for a championship.
Here is plan B. If the Nuggets can’t sign Nene their is one more small chance. Go with a two year (second partially guaranteed) deal for Greg Oden for 13mil first year. If he improves to full health he singlehandedly gets the Nuggets into the postseason and beyond and future looks good. If he doesn’t get healthy the Nugs will hit the lottery. Either way I am happy.
umm...
I’m a nuggets fan, I really am. But with Nene an outside chance at a championship? Really? I just don’t see that at all.
He’d give us a frontcourt to compete with, but not consistently beat teams. I love Ty and AAA but don’t see them going deep in the playoffs.
Big question: where do points come from?
'"It could happen..."
by Jaybark7 on Dec 6, 2011 5:45 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
We probably beat the Thunder
With a healthy Afflalo/we can actually hit our free throws. But agree Championship team is a little over optimistic
You need a big who can score in this league.
And sometimes you just have to overpay for what you need.
and there lies the rub..
or the space between a rock and a hard place..
or the great unanswered question..
why Ujiri makes the big bucks.
I'm scared,
the next couple days are going to determine the future of the Nuggets franchise for years to come. So far I have been very impressed with Ujiri and hope he can keep it up.
It only takes one bad decision to ruin a team for the next seven years, see Martin, Kenyon.
I have gone from blase about basketball in general during the lockout to intense trepidation about the future of my favorite franchise. No middle ground. If Ujiri navigates this time well I’m gonna put him in my will, really, he gets my throwback jerseys and the condo.
I do feel differently about Ujiri
I think he said he won’t do something just for the sake of doing it a la Kiki.
His action will speak louder than his words, but the fact that he thinks about long term outcomes makes me comfortable he is the GM.
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by JR15 on Dec 5, 2011 9:04 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
If someone pays Nene Max money
and it sounds like someone will, probably the nets, they are making a huge mistake. Can’t pay 30% of your cap to a 14-7 guy. Recipe for 40 wins seasons right there. Too good to get a top pick, not good enough to compete in the playoffs.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 10:42 AM MST up reply actions
Tyson Chandler is smoking something
Thinking he is worth max money for many years.
That guy was almost washed up when he was in Charlotte and that injury history hasn’t magically left him. Plus he has no offensive moves outside of putbacks and alley-oops.
What an overrated loser. I hope the Pacers overpayfor him just to show Larry Bird’s incompetencey as a GM.
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by JR15 on Dec 5, 2011 9:08 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Even if.....
We overpay for Nene, I don’t think it will be too crippling. He will be much more tradable than K-Mart ever was.
Not sure what the Nuggets will do. Heck not sure what any team in the NBA will do. Get ready for some crazy rumors. Friday is going to worse than after the NFL lockout.
Nuts that free agency and camps open the same day. Probably the best thing we have is GK coaching since he has seen everything and is used to winning in crazy circumstances..
Cause it be crazy…. OKC gets a HUGE advantage out of the gate since there team is set from the start.
This is good news
BUT, I find it interesting that Karl’s pitch to Nene is now…“hey, after years of jerking you around, you now get to play PF instead of C…and if you go anywhere else, you will have to play C.”
Makes you wonder
how much they really want Nene back
Could be interesting to hear how the meeting goes
Between Otis Smith and Dwight Howard speculated to be as early as today..
Even the Pistons...
Despite the fact that their center was only 6’9, they had Sheed (6’10), Okur (6’11), and Prince (6’9) in the frontcourt, and they led the NBA in blocks.
A good point:
In basketball, it is length, not height that is ultimate more important.
Granted, a lot of taller players have a corresponding wingspan, but Prince up there has fantastically long arms and leaping ability, allowing him to play much bigger. Something the Nuggets will see with the 6’8" but really 6’6" Faried, who has great rebounding instincts and long arms.
Why to basketball players always lie about their height? Or guys in general? Charles Barkley is 6’4" or so, but was always listed at 6’6". Michael Jordan, too wasn’t quite 6’6".
Sorry. Getting distracted. I just think the importance of being 7’ + in the NBA is overstated. And it seems like more teams would rather play a mobile, athletic 6’9" guy in the 5 rather than let some clunky, awkward 7-footer man the post.
Nene’s limitations at center had nothing to do with being a little undersized and everything to do with attitude. He just does not like playing physical and banging with other big guys.
And you guys can talk all the smack you like about K-Mart, but the man was an awesome on-the-ball defender and could hold his own against many bigger opponents. Overpaid? Sure. But I’m going to miss his attitude a ton.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
AAA has a lot of length too.
I really think Moz has really good potential to be an amazing big. Nene would complement him really well especially the way he boxes out.
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The best thing about Moz
Is his shooting touch. Koufos, too.
And Moz is actually pretty athletic for a legit 7-footer. Of course, this makes me worried about his knees and ankles. But if he stays healthy and continues to progress, there’s no reason not to make him the starting center. I’m glad coach Karl is thinking this way.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Good point on length
It is all about wing-span. Look at Durant. His wingspan is ridiculous. His shots will never get blocked.
Agreed.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 5, 2011 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
Finally, I've been saying that for years.
Also kinda looks like a black Adam Sandler.
Nuggets Can Go to 14 Million
I believe 14 million is the absolute cap for Nene. Denver offers him the most options (other than title contention) including money, position (PF), a coach he likes, a community he is comfortable in, and a young talente team he can lead. If he rejects this, he never wanted to sign here and food riddance.
by ACEIII on Dec 5, 2011 10:48 AM MST via mobile reply actions
He's gone
Someone is going to offer him the max. He’s already moved on mentally. Once that happened, nothing Denver could offer would get him to stay. Denver might get a couple of scrubs thrown in with a sign and trade, nothing more.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
Think it'll be Houston
They’ve been the most aggressive with him. I can see Thabeet, Courtney Lee or Chase Buddinger and NYK 1st round pick this year in a sign and trade.
Think Nets go in this off-season for Dwight or proceed to get Chandler.
Without amnestying Thabeet
They’re at around 9-10 million. They amnesty Thabeet it’s a different story.
The report is
the nets don’t want to risk waiting for Dwight and get Melo’d. Nene in the hand rather than Howard in the Bush. Their owner doesn’t care about cost.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
Don't forget
Kiki is there. And yes, they want to play him next to lopez. At PF, if you can imagine.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
Lopez, Nene and Deron Williams…
Moz, Nene and Lawson …
Interesting combos.
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Houston makes no sense if Nene wants to win like he claims
Houston is in worse shape than us.
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Houston makes no sense if Nene wants to win like he claims
Houston is in worse shape than us.
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Denver pursuing Nick Young
Restricted SG for the Wizards. Averaged 19.8 points a game for the Wizards after the Arenas trade. Obvious bad team stat inflation, but a very interesting young guy if someone steals AAA. Wizards have plenty of cap room, so they would have to get creative to get him.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 11:00 AM MST reply actions
AAA isn't going anywhere. The only way the Nuggets don't match is if he gets offered more then 9.5 per.
I think he’s worth around 8 personally. The only teams that can make a legit offer to him, are bad ones. The bulls will try but unless they amnesty someone I think the most they could offer would be 8.5. The nuggets would match that.
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 5, 2011 11:10 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
He's a chucker,
but would be worth it to replace J.R. 6th man off the bench, hopefully he can develop to be a bit more well rounded.
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would like to see him step his D up for sure
Karl actually had JR playing much better D the last 2 years so who knows…
haha agreed
but i’d rather take a flier on Terrence Williams who, if i understand correctly, is no longer wanted in Houston
T-Will is JR 2.0
All the talent in the world, just hasn’t lived up to it, I’d take a flier on him for sure
T-Will
wasa major part of the discussion at the start of last year when the Nugs were talking to the Nets about Favors. Nets fans loved him. Then he promptly flopped and they shipped him out. Haven’t heard much since then. Seems like a huge head case.
He got demoted to the D League
and tore it up there, believe he had a triple double or 2. Went to the Rockets and never really got any run there, although they kinda had a logjam at the wing spots so maybe they just didn’t have minutes for him
maybe a trade to the nuggets will make him realize
that he should get his shit together if he went from lottery pick to three teams in as many years. We could benefit from that.
I like Young
…as a replacement for JR. The scorer off the bench. I think Wash made an offer of $3.7 million, which seems low. I think the Bulls are also after him, which makes for an interesting competition.
I ran into him and his family in the airport right after he was drafted…literally, like the day after. He may have been flying back to the west coast after draft night. It was really interesting to see him in a “normal” airport setting…sitting around waiting for the plane with the rest of the regular folks. He was definately jazzed though, passing out some hi-fives to people that were congratulating him on the draft.
$3.7 mil,
Was that an actual offer or just the qualifying offer for restricted FAs?
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qualifying offer
they’d certainly give him more on a long term deal.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
Having a 6'9 center such as Nene
works when you are a fast court team. Nene is faster than most big men and when we ran a lot, Nene was at his most effective. However when you get into the playoffs, the better teams will force you into playing a half-court offense and that is where the lack of size shows. Teams hardly ever win it all with an undersized center, Ben Wallace with Detroit was an exception because he was an athletic freak and superior to Nene in rebounding and defense.
Its good to see Andre Miller in his typical off-season shape
Maybe all these non hard working off-seasons means he will be around for a long time? Who knows, but he always comes into training camp as a fatty.
I wonder why some people think Danilo Gallinari should play power forward?
Because he would be similar to Dirk?
Dirk= 7’0, 245 lbs
Danilo= 6’10, 225 lbs
big difference there.
Gallo is a tweener
He’s a little too tall for small forwards to handle and a little too quick (dont laugh) for power forwards to follow all over the court.
But he’ll help us most at small forward because he’s a decent rebounder, defensive player for a small but not aggressive enough at power forward.
Gallo would also be best if there are big, strong guys around him and Gallo’s role becomes outside shooter and facilitator where his good shooting, good ballhandling skills and passing can be optimized.
If Gallo plays a lot of power forward, he’s either buffed up or we are in deep trouble in the power positions. Pray that doesnt happen.
Nene is gone
unfortunately…. Would like to see AAA back, Young added and then possibly look at Landry as a replacement for Nene. Or just stick with Moz, Kouf, Bird, Faried…. Faried may come out the gates ready to play in the NBA and if that is the case save the money on a guy like Landry and save it for later. Should be interesting to see what happens.
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I'd really like to see Faried play starter minutes
If we are gonna tank this season for a good draft pick, I’d like to see what Faried would do with 30-35 minutes a game, it would be entertaining at least seeing him run up and down the court.
Wasn't that picture when Moz laid the hammer on Gordon
That kept Gordon out for 2 months?
Don’t mess with the Moz!!
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Not a fan.
RT @nuggetsnews free agent al thornton is considering signing with the #nuggets: bit.ly/s6kK0S
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SMH
All we need is another 3. Especially a chucking one. He makes JR look conservative
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what's the negatives on Thornton?
He was highly touted coming out of college. He’s a chucker. What else?
Doesn't play defense unless its against Melo
Also very ineffective shooter. And we have enough 3s. He belongs on the Warriors.
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I mean Thornton is decent.
He just doesn’t do anything for us. He’d be okay if he was just bolstering our roster as a role player, but we’re not at the point where we’re in the hunt for a title, he’s not going to convince Nene to come back, and if we rebuild we should be developing young players, not guys like Thornton.
No thanks.
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All he does is score, ineffectively
he has averaged 4.2 rebounds his entire career. he is the type of player you have chuck a bunch of shots for a really bad team with a bunch of players ready to be released the next year so they have a lot of money to throw at good free agents. Id rather not have him on the team, at all.
Hope we resign Nene
because, if he walks there is no way to know what the Nuggets will be. May be good, OK or lottery participants.
But if he resigns, we can assume that what we saw post Mello should approximate what we get this year, if not more.
Look, nene and Ty Chandler arent really max talents but they are very important – much more important than they are “great”
Nugs should match almost anything Nene is offered as long as it doesnt cripple our ability to keep/get our resources. That’s where the front office comes in and they have their work cut out for them.
Can't match
Nene is unrestricted. We just have to hope his Colorado wife says play in CO or no big jokes (bjs)…ok I kid, but that would be pretty huge incentive. I love me some good jokes from the significant other.
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I know no self-respecting Coloradoan
Would enjoy living in Jersey or Houston, so that is the Nuggets hope of keeping him here.
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This from Ken Berger via twitter (One of the better reporter in my opinion)
“Good conversation” today between #nuggets and RFA Thaddeus Young, and more conversations planned, sources say.
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by stan_26 on Dec 5, 2011 2:27 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Post-Nene era start a lot worse than Thadd.
If we’re going to sign guys that aren’t Nene, they need to be young guys with potential/upside. Who cares how many games we win, it’s about developing guys like Moz, Hamilton, Faried, Ty, AAA, etc. And guys like Thad and T-Will (as mentioned above, no actual rumors) and Nick Young, fit that perfectly. It’s all about losing games, getting players PLENTY of minutes, and then having a great draft and FA next season.
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Berger goes onto say
Denver’s interest in Sixers’ Young is latest indication that Nuggets are preparing for Nene departure.
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by stan_26 on Dec 5, 2011 2:31 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
at a minimum they have to do their due diligence
even if they think they have a good chance to resign Nene (which I don’t think they do), they have to do their ground work with other options. If they only have a plan A, with no B and C options, they would be incompetent.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
Not to mention even if we re-sign Nene
We still have leftover cap space.
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I'm really starting to think
that the best option is to give AAA a front loaded deal, then not sign anyone else. Sit way under the cap, then use that cap space to facilitate the Howard and Paul trades that are coming. If they don’t end up at the minimum, all our players get bonuses at the end of the year.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
SF might not be our weakness
But Thadd Young could be our starting SF, depending on whether he’s the real deal or not.
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Could have a frontcourt of
Thaddeus at SF, Gallo at PF and Moz at Center, depending on if Nene returns or not.
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by stan_26 on Dec 5, 2011 2:42 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Also depends on whether we're fully rebuilding or not.
Would like to see Faried get a lot of time as well, but at that point it doesn’t really matter who our “starting lineup” is.
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This!
He is tall, but he lacks the defense and presence to be a good 4.
But he’s got great size and feet to be an excellent 3. Gallo is not PF material, aside from sliding over there when coach Karl inevitably decides to go small.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
You know you are going to love it
when he trots out the Miller, Lawson, A.C., AAA, Gallo lineup.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 3:12 PM MST up reply actions
I didn't actually say Gallo would play PF.
I was implying Thad would be better than Gallo.
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I don't know if I agree
Obviously it’s hard to judge because neither player has really gotten big time minutes, but I just am not a big fan of Gallo. Neither am I (or was I) a fan of Chandler either, so that’s why I wanted us to draft Hamilton so badly (I’m sure some of you remember that draft night). xD
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Hamilton
He definitely has the physical tools to become better than Gallo and Chandler…If Karl can coach the kid up he could become quite the player for us
ehh
i watched almost every game of Hamilton’s at Texas. He really struggled his freshman year. Mostly mental things like shot selection, attitude etc. But he made dramatic improvement his sophomore year and is able to do a lot of things well, like shoot, drive and rebound. Defense and effort is not a strength however. We’ll see if he continues to improve or if he struggles making this transition like he did coming into college.
The guy can certainly put it up, but he’s does not have the potential of Gallo. Gallo is 6’10" and can really shoot. He’s surprisingly agile and athletic, much more so than Hamilton. He’s plays out of control at times, but his ceiling is still higher than Hamilton’s. I’m not the biggest Gallo fan because he seems to really struggle with consistency and I’m not sure he’ll ever be the team leader. But he could potentially. I don’t think Hamilton will ever be that player, but we’ll see. I hope he gets some minutes this year, he’s like a less athletic JR so it should be entertaining.
Well all I've seen is highlights
so my opinion might be a little skewed, but I agree about the concern with Gallo’s consistency. Seems he rarely has more than 2 good games in a row
He will have the full reigns
And hopefully has fully recovered from that broken toe. I really think that made him look bad after that Portland game. So it will be a good opportunity this year to see what he is really made of.
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Well I'm excited either way!
I want him to prove all us doubters wrong and blossom into a full blown NBA star!
we could always
max Nene out, or close too it then just ride out Harringtons contact and save the amnesty clause as insurance on Nene
Does amnesty apply to new contracts?
I seem to remember reading in Andrew’s column on the new CBA that it only applies to existing “bad” contracts.
no you can't...
This has to be a pre-existing contract to the CBA…So we can use it only on one of our existing contracts on the books, not one going forward.
Can you amnesty a traded player?
Say we take on a gilbert arenas for picks from Orlando, could he then be amnestied?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
Not sure you can take on someone else's mistake
However, why would the Nuggets do this? They would basically be giving away picks (for a loaded draft) in order to pay $20 million to Arenas…when they already have plenty of cap space.
Get to the cap floor
And then drop below it next offseason.
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Not giving away picks, receiving picks for taking the bad contract
like Cleveland did last year and got the #1 overall pick. I can certainly see them using the cap space to pick up assets and facilitate trades.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 3:15 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry, read it wrong
Still can’t see Stan taking on that contract
They've got to spend the money anyway
taking bad contracts may be the only way he’ll get to the minimum. They can take a bad contract, amnesty him, and still have his salary count against the cap. I’m just not sure if you can amnesty a guy you received in a trade.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 3:54 PM MST up reply actions
Puke
In a lot of ways, the Hornets and Orlando Magic are in a race to make a deal with the Los Angeles Lakers for Paul and Howard. They’re running so many scenarios across the big boards in their offices, but make no mistake: Los Angeles is the port that can entice Paul and Howard to sign extensions, with the one player – young center Andrew Bynum – as a centerpiece that can justify the trade.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 2:56 PM MST reply actions
Not a surprise
However, the Clippers have way better assets to give up and are in the same market. It would be really strange to see the Clippers thrive…but I would love for them to steal the Lakers thunder.
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Rec'd
Just for the line “Still the Lakers thunder”
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Uck, imagine having Howard one second, than having Bynum?
This is one reason I hate the NBA, the big markets can give away their old, cheaper toys for the brand new, most expensive gift everyone else wants.
There is a reason the Lakers
have made the playoffs 58 times in 63 years. I don’t know what the knicks problem is.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
It’s in the middle of MJ’s bulls and Isaiah as a GM.
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yeah
something like Howard and Turkoglu for Bynum, Odom and Barnes is what Im expecting to happen.
How funny would it be
if that trade happened and Bynum was healthy for a full year? Even better if they make it further in the playoffs than LA!
That would actually make Orlando pretty good
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 5, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
Iike we dont have enuff sf/sgs on this team, if you watched thad pIay then l dont see why you would want him on this team.
he has some post up game, unreIiabIe jumper, and just Iooks awkward usuaIIy on the court. you know that miIIer is going to be the back up sg when affIaIo goes out of the game, and we are going to pIay some crappy smaII baII, with like al, faried, and andersen in the front court.
the offense Iooked bad with out jr of the game, and nene was the onIy one they couId go to score against set defenses, so if nene goes expect the offense to take a huge pIunge as weII.
dont fooI yourseIves, this team pIayed weII down the stretch Iast season, but when it’s for a whoIe season, eh scratch that… but stiII l just dont see that they win Iike that for a whoIe season. the defense is gonna improve if koufos and moz pIay more, but the random offense that this team runs is going to Iook very bad, maybe they’II have some games where things are cIicking and put up a Iot of points, but if things are cIose in the fourth, and they have to pIay against some set defenses, your just going to see what happened in the pIayoffs in the fourth with out jr.
Reading the Article about Ujiri
I wonder what happened with Nene and K-mart. There is all the talk about how he built relationships with clubs to get to the Nuggets GM position, and how hard he worked. I know we will never know, but what work did he do to build relationships with Nene and K-mart?
They didn't want to sign anyone until they figured out the Melo situation
Those two took it as disrespect.
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So....
There are a lot of ways to present that message without making them feel disrespected. According to quotes from Nene, what made him feel disrespected was not the offer. but that it happened after the season was over, and just before the old CBA expired. Maybe this is not Masai’s fault, and was Stan’s influence that delayed any conversations. It just seems odd.
Bill Simmons
has The Nuggets signing Sam Dalembert at 4 years 40 mil after losing Nene to New Jersey in a huge Sign-and-trade
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says the Nuggets have interest in Josh Howard
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Not really huge
He has the nuggets receiving a second round pick. Partay!
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 4:25 PM MST up reply actions
wow
i really hope the Nuggets don’t go that route
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Second this
Ugh…Sammy D and Josh Howard. Although…Howard would love it here due to the liberal weed laws.
Wouldn't mind
Howard to replace Chandler at the right cost
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Maybe ...Howard circa 2007
He hasn’t done anything for 2 years.
nothing like
a change of scenary and going to Washington’s sorry team doesn’t count
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Maybe a Chandleresque type value
Player coming off a couple of bad years signs a “cheap” one year deal and does well.
I don't think
Sammy S is the right guy for 10 mil… I’d rather split that between Thadeus and Nick Young or even split 15 mil between both of them than sign Dalembert for 10 mil/yr at 4 years
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Don't know if 10 mil gets both Young's
Plus Dalembert will still have trade value if it doesn’t work out here
i'd give
6 mil to Nic and 7 mil to Thadeus
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alright, you convinced me
Plus I think we’ll be pretty set at C with Moz Koufos and bird… SF and PF are definitely our biggest needs(although I hope GK gives Fari ed some run)
with Thadeus and Nick while keeping AAA
Ty/Miller
AAA/Young/Howard?
Young/J-HAm/Howard?
Gallo/Faried/Bird
Moz/Kouf/Bird
Maybe one more swing man or pg…. Josh Howard?
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Please don't sign Sammy D for the love of god
I think this is Simmons spewing nonsense. Though I think Nene is strongly considering that armpit of the US formerly known as New Jersey.
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we shall see
but i agree i hope not Sammy
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Doubt it happens
Ujiri made it seem like we’re gonna stand pat for the most part….I don’t really see us giving ANYONE 10mil/yr unless it’s Nene
Come on AAA
Karl tried to call Nene and Afflalo on Monday – the first day teams could have direct contact with free agents – but his early morning calls went unanswered. For the time being, he would have to leave the sales pitches to Nuggets executive vice president of basketball operations Masai Ujiri.
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I don't believe it
we all know Karl never talks to his players.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 4:26 PM MST up reply actions
Only during his "out to dinner with the coach night"
each player get’s 1 night out per season
*this is actually true
It would consist of JR tweeting
and GK asking him what a tweet is.
I hardly see his name mentioned but
Chu Chu could be a real sleeper. I have been very impressed with Ujiri’s calls thus far, and there has to be a reason we traded up for this kid.
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You never know
But it seems we have a lot of big men. Moz, Faried, Koufus, Bird, and Harrington.
I would like to see Chuchu in the D league and maybe bring him up if our bigs get injured.
I am telling you Moz is going to be amazing, and I can see Koufus being a really solid backup big.
I can actually forsee a Moz/Faried/Gallo frontcourt as being pretty versatile and tough to deal with in the future.
I would rather have Moz/Nene/Gallo, but this will give Faried more opportunity to develop.
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Well
I think he would be signed to fill out the roster and then would have to hit the ground running, but that move doesn’t make much sense to me unless Masai has a trick up his sleeve.
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Pretty clear at this point
Nuggets made a big mistake not having a fire sale after the Melo trade. Could have gotten a lot of assets for Nene, J.R., Chandler, and Felton. At least they got something for Felton.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 4:33 PM MST reply actions
And we still can get something for Chandler
Too bad we really didn’t have any time to do any trades after the Melo trade.
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Al Thornton worked out at the Pepsi center today
Asked if he’ll sign with Denver, Thornton said, "We’ll see. Hopefully. We’ll see."
http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/2011/12/05/al-thornton-is-considering-signing-with-nuggets/5647/
Not too excited about this one
hm
so i guess that puts Denver out of the Young(S) sweetstakes? What is Thornton a 2 or 3 or swing?
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A 3 who is the ultimate chucker
All he will do is hinder Hamilton’s development. I don’t want this deal to happen!!
We need a 2 more than a 3 right now.
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so that takes
Thadeus out of the equation unless they see Gallo as the 4?
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He's not really a chucker
Only averaged 0.5 3s a game last year. He was a chucker at onoe point but appears to have grown out of it a bit.
He’s just another role player. Can shoot a little and potentially defend 2 positions.
Also
He was on the 2008 all rookie team and, at one point, averaged nearly 17 pts and 6 bds (when he was a chucker).
Again, he’s filler….insurance. Not horrible for a team that needs to make its min payroll.
Ah, I'm misreading everything today.
He’s still cheap filler…he made nothing last year.
NOOO
I don’t want Another clunker named Al who does nothing but volume shoot and sucks at passing, rebounding and playing team ball.
Not to mention he shoots around 30% from 3 point land, no thank you.
Could mean
they are thinking about amnestying Harrington. Very similar production last season.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 5, 2011 4:54 PM MST up reply actions
If he can replace Harrington at 1/2 the price
MAYBE… but I still think a healthy Harrington is better than Thornton
I thought we just covered this above? Lol.
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Actually there was a link.
And it was to the exact same article you linked lol. I guess it’s more convenient that you posted the quote though.
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Nah, all good.
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Whatever...the moment we sign Thornton
We are waving the white flag and saying we are rebuilding. There is a reason Thornton never made the playoffs.
I hope we do it for only 1 year. This will really hinder Hamilton’s growth. I really hope it doesn’t happen. We should focus our attention on getting Hamilton minutes and let the Warriors overpay Thornton since they love collecting wing players and maybe Tyson Chandler…that would be a really goofy team to watch especially with hand down man down at the helm.
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Man, looks like JR and Chandler aren't gettin out of their contracts anytime soon
sources said those teams could be willing to agree to steep buyouts to let the players return to the NBA. The players would have to return all the salary they’ve made, plus agent fees and an additional $1 million to satisfy owners – but that still won’t assure them they could play in the NBA.
Smith was the league’s most recent Player of the Week after a 52-point, 22-rebound performance. Chandler is second in the league in scoring with 32 points per game, trailing American Lester Hudson(notes) (33.7), according to EuroBasket.com.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;ylt=AoPaqbiBOobGMLVyiFiPfu8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_nba_free_agent_buzz_120511
In other news, with the beard, fro and crazy tats, Chandler looks pretty badass.
damn
Didn’t realize he had that much ink… he Belongs on the team!
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 5, 2011 8:10 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Nuggets Schedule
Just in case any of you are interested there is an unofficial version floating around. Home opener with Jazz on December 28th. Lakers are in town January 1st and February 3rd. Heat and Celtics on sames dates as original schedule. Thunder play in Denver once on March 15th.
No home games against Knicks, Bulls, Pacers, Wizards, Bobcats or Sixers.
where can i find a copy
of this unofficial schedule? Trying to see what home games the Nuggs have while I’m back for the holidays. Thanks.
First couple weeks of home games:
12/28 vs Jazz
1/1 vs Lakers
1/2 vs Bucks
1/4 vs Kings
1/9 vs Hornets
1/11 vs Nets
1/13 vs Heat
1/15 vs Jazz
This could change slightly tomorrow.
Al Jefferson being shopped by the Jazz?
He has 2 years left on his contract, 14mil this year and 15 mil next. Still only 26 years old and could possibly play power forward alongside Moz. Anyone bite?
Personally, I’d only do it if we get Utah’s 2012 in return (which is actually Golden State’s which is Top 7 protected this year, or so I understand), and we’re not giving up much in return. Not sure what Utah’s looking for in return, however, and skeptical that they would make any deal like this with a division rival like us.
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You dont think the head butt is mean
That is what I will really miss about Nene. I kinda want to see him head butt Perkins in his ugly mug. Alas we probably wont see him do it in a Nugs uni
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How about Kaman...$12.2 million/one year
He isn’t a free agent, but the Clippers will not wantto pay him and Jordan (I agree with Simmons).
Take a flyer, fill the cap, then have more relief next summer.
Kaman is good when healthy.
Too many white people
Will make the floor shine bright and make the Nuggets the new Indiana Pacers.
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Btw, am I the only one pissed that everyone is so upset over this?
They never actually leave home! Why do people think this is so bad?!
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Well they leave to go to Sacto
But no one wants the old Lakers to injure themselves..those poor old guys. They deserve our sympathy for bullying around the league for so long.
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I really hope you dont consider Sacramento
“Leaving”
But I agree with the rest of what you said lol.
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by Agaliarept on Dec 5, 2011 5:42 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Bout time IMO
They seem to have the most consistently easy schedule year in and year out….Didn’t they have the least amount of b2b’s last season?
i admit i don't know how hard it is to play a game
But how is this “bout time”? It’s still easy! I can’t be certain but I’d say a east-to-west b2b has to be harder than a b2b2b with all 3 games essentially at home.
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by Agaliarept on Dec 5, 2011 5:44 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I bet that is the Lakers only one because we know Stern wants the Lakers to undefinable advantage
That plus 2 other things
1. DH12 will be a Laker by March.
2. The Lakers will play the least amount of games at the end of the season (compared to other WC potential playoff teams) (OKC will probably have to play a b2b2b end the season)
Oh side note because of past scheduling I bet the nuggets are one of unfortunate teams to have to play 3 b2b2b.
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 5, 2011 7:39 PM MST up reply actions
Every team
Will have at least 1 b2b2b and as many as 3. Lakers will probably have 1, Nuggets will probably have 3. :-(
I'll make a bold prediction and say they come out of those 1st 3 games 1-2
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 5, 2011 7:29 PM MST reply actions
Then we can trade AI for Chauncey!
Wait, what.
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Just thought of something else
Under a normal schedule we hated the 4 games in 5 night thing
I wonder if Stern will put the screws in teams that the Lakers would have problems with in the playoffs (thunder or mavs) by making them play 6 games in 7 or 8 nights toward the end of the season. I wouldn’t put it past Stern to try help the Lakers by screwing with the schedule that way.
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 5, 2011 10:49 PM MST reply actions
This Lakers acquiring Paul and Howard is ridiculous
I still think that they need Phil Jackson to piece those egos together no matter how smart Mike Brown is.
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agreed
I’m not sure how well kobe’s gonna take having another superstar in town…let alone 2. Not having the Zen master around only makes is worse
IF that happens
It would be insane to think they would win more ships b2b2b
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 5, 2011 11:53 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
wouldn't win
God i really hate the fact you can’t edit your posts…
Who do need to talk to get that feature added to this illustrious blog?
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 5, 2011 11:55 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Its just a dream by Broussard.
However, if Lakers get CP3, which is more realistic, then Howard might push to go to Nets, then Houston gets Chandler and Nene is forced to reconsider Nuggets!
Deandre Jordan anyone?
According to Woj Clippers are going to offer a 5 year 40 million dollar deal. Most likely he will not accept and force the Clippers to match an offer so he can get more money. What would it take to pry him away from Clipperland? Should the Nuggets offer him a contract? I definitely would consider it if Nene leaves. He is young, athletic has a great presence on the court, is 7-foot and actually plays good D, as well as being able to run in an up tempo offense. Sounds like a perfect fit to me. Just needs to develop his offense an post work.
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by stan_26 on Dec 6, 2011 1:57 AM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Last time I checked, that is $8 million a year
…which isn’t over the top for Jordan…and is way cheaper than Nene or Chandler. Perhaps the Nuggets should push the Clippers a bit on this deal. He really needs to develop a post game though….and his FT shooting is terrible, something like 40%.
And just like other bad free throw shooters (Nene in the post-season) they will shy away from the ball in big moments, and you can’t have that out of a guy you spend big dough on.
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I agree.
He was a good prospect coming out of A&M, came out too early. Could have been a lotto pick if he would have stayed in school longer.
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Jordan always reminds me of Birdman
Good help defense and athletic. But overall he’s got nothing but put backs and ugly iso defense.
Why I prefer to pass on a rehash. Only seen 5 or so clips games last year, so take it for what it’s worth. But I’d pass. Also have to overpay to get him away from the Clips.
Reminds me of Perk...a little
Works hard, big dude, good D, no O, poor FT shooting. Maybe I’m talking myself out of it. It’s not going to happen anyway.
Nets will wait until answer from Orlando on Howard, then re-sign Kris Humphries, Amnesty Outlaw and then sign Nene.
Howard was in 4 hr. meeting with Otis yesterday.
If Paul goes to Lakers, Howard’s options are Clippers of Nets. Deron Williams assured public yesterday that Howard WOULD sign extension with Nets if traded.
Nets still have best rebuilding package for Orlando, because of cap relief to take back Turk, 2 1st round picks and the potential of BLopez becoming the 2nd best True Center in NBA (still age 23).
Remember Nets wouldn’t trade Lopez for Melo. There is a reason. Brook had Mono and arm injury (surgery in off season). Future is bright. Nuggets would have been better off to take Nets deal.
Orlando will have to decide quickly, because Nets cap space will be gone by end of next week:
Nets will settle for either Chandler or Nene, and will use Chandler to get Nene to sign for a little less (will certainly offer 15 million). Nene+Lopez +Hump trio would work. Nets probably couldn’t unload Petro in near future, but he has been the hardest worker in the off season, so maybe he stays too, as 2nd backup Center behind Nene (who would rotate with Hump at PF).
Nets would also try for discount on AK47, with Proky and Brooklyn/Russian connection.
Yesterday Deron Williams said that Marshon Brooks could be the next Jamaal Crawford (I agree) and that everyone point guard would love to have Anthony Morrow. Therefore, Nets are focused on Multiple Bigs and Billy King admitted that in his interview.
The only question I have, is whether there is any possibility for Denver to cooperate in a S&T for Nene, to get him the extra year? People can tweet directly to Billy King (@bkdefend) since he reads the little tweets he receives.
I don't think the Nuggets would have been "better off" with the Nets deal
Yes, more picks…but it’s pretty clear George Karl didn’t particularly care for Favors and he would have been either a wasted on the Nuggets or a bust, depending on your view of him.
I’m not seeing how the Nuggets would S&T with the Nets…they do’t seem to have much to offer right now considering their draft picks currently belong to Utah.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Dec 6, 2011 10:00 AM MST up reply actions
Agree with this
It’s yet to be seen how things pan out.
Favors has potential but I like Gallo’s over his currently. The lottery pick last year in a very meager class. the GS pick this year could have good value but we’d have to see where it lands.
Would take Chandler over Harris for talent wise.
We’ve gaiend space and ability to make moves. We’d have to see where those moves end before juding the trade as a whole. I also hold a slight amount of hope that that NYK pick in 2014 might be better then we think…Just like many others I don’t trust Amare’s knees. They’ll only have picks in every other draft and without a serious talent infusion could be meddling fairly quick.
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I was gonna cheer for Chauncey and boo the shit out of Melo.
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by InboundingLobPass on Dec 6, 2011 11:06 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
haha I love Storage Wars!
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuupppppppp!
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It's amazing any of them but the yuuup guy ever make any money
The guys always let their testosterone take over and pay too much. Every show, you are guaranteed to here some variation of: “I don’t care how much it costs, I’m not letting anyone take this away from me.” Then they spend $3,000 on a couple of old mattresses and a box full of used underpants.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 6, 2011 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
hahaha so true!
I got my mom and stepdad watching it and my stepdad called me to let me know he found a sale going on in Colorado and we were going to check it out and try it ourselves, but we didn’t end up being able to go. Almost was a Storage War guy myself…
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That show is totally awesome
And the Texas version starts tonight
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Do they shoot their rivals?
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What happened to the Tim Duncan superstar?
He decided to stay with the Spurs despite a tempting offer from Orlando.
He trusted his FO to get things done and he got 4 rings.
We need that kind of superstar who just knows they are good enough and not paying attention to what is going on around him.
I think that type of player is gone, but I always feel there will be one eventually and hopefully the Nuggets get him.
Btw I think Durant will flee when he gets the chance, he can talk all he wants now, but he hangs around LBJ way too much.
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