UPDATE: NBA Free Agency 2011: Nuggets extend offer to RFA Luc Mbah a Moute
by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 11:53 AM MST
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PrintWell, he's not Nene Hilario or Arron Afflalo, but Luc Mbah a Moute is a former UCLA product, 25 years-old, and a 2008 second-round pick by the Milwaukee Bucks - where he has played the past three seasons. A restricted free agent, the Nuggets have signed Moute to a four-year, $19 million offer sheet, according to the Denver Post. The Bucks have three days to match or let 6'8'' small forward become a Nugget.
Update: Bucks expected to match Nuggets deal and keep Moute, according to NBA.com writer Scott Howard-Cooper.
What the SB Nation Bucks blog, Brew Hoop, has to say about Moute possibly leaving. Click here.
The vibe I'm getting from Bucks Nation is that the nearly $4.75 million per season contract the Nuggets have Moute signed to may be too rich for the Bucks to match; even though the team has the resources to do so.
For those of you who are not familiar with Moute's game, he's a fierce defender and a great hustle player. What that also means, he has limited offensive game. Not a great shooter, but he can get to the rim. He's not going to be a threat from outside of 15-feet and would be a great candidate to show Nuggets rookie Kenneth Faried the ropes on defense as both guys have a similar build and height.
Moute has averaged 7.2, 6.2, and 6.7 points per game in his three NBA seasons to go along with 5.6 rebounds per game in about 26 minutes per contest. He started 52 of the 79 games he appeared in last season with the Bucks, but in Denver he'd likely be asked to come off the bench as Danilo Gallinari is expected to start at small forward and Arron Afflalo at the shooting guard spot (if he's re-signed).
This is an interesting signing by the Nuggets and if it goes through it's almost as if the Nuggets will have a more expensive and experienced version of Faried on the roster. I'm a little worried that the Nuggets might be a little too one dimensional with their bench players if Moute comes aboard as the Nuggets sorely need some scoring off the bench.
With Gary Forbes signing an offer sheet with the Toronto Raptors, I'm even more concerned about where the Nuggets will find points when the starters are resting.
What do you Stiffs think of the Moute signing?
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I'm not overly excited about this offer sheet
but then again as we’ve all mentioned we got to spend this $ somewhere especially if Nene goes to NJ or Hou. He reminds me a lot of Renaldo Balkman, high energy, solid defense (think Moute is better on D than Balkman) and limited on offense. Maybe being apart of GK’s fast paced offense will help him with his offensive liabilities.
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by Bob in Boulder on Dec 10, 2011 12:16 PM MST reply actions
In regards to the points off the bench?
Do you think this could be a sign that Denver is that confident in a player like Hamilton to be the guy to step up? I mean if he’s known for anything he’s known for scoring.
Maybe.
It’s tough to rely on a rookie with so many ups-and-downs in a season, but Hamilton is very talented and will get his chance this season with the Nuggets roster the way it is (he should get a shot anyway). I’d love to see another scorer sign, but not a ton of options out there…
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not too fond of relying on a rookie either
even though I will cast my vote into the camp that is really high on J Hamilton. I would love to add another trusted scorer off the bench
by swag surfin on Dec 10, 2011 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
Without JR, Chandler, or even Forbes
It’s probabably better to let Hamilton get experience this year, along with the rest of the youngsters for that matter. (Assuming Nene is a goner, that is. If they resign Nene, I like our chances in the discombobulated west for a top four spot.)
If Bah Ah Mooooooootay
ends up happening Denver needs to sign Nic Young to come off the bench to score or else this team has 0 offense coming off the bench like Nate said…. I think Nic Young would fit in just nicely with the second unit
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Hard worker, good defender, I'll take him.
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knicks officially amnesty chauncey
and sign tyson chandler. How? Last I heard ronny turiaf hasn’t been moved yet to make the cap space. or did they pull it off?
Moved to Washington
No details on what was in the trade.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
I think Ronny went to the Wiz
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 10, 2011 12:34 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
S&T with Dallas
for TEP and last I heard Turiaf possibly to Lakers if they lose Gasol and Odom or to the WIz. What I don’t understand is to me, right now a player like Chauncey Billups is more vital to a team like the Knicks than Chandler is. All Chandler really brings is solid rebounding and defense but I think they could have gotten then elsewhere. Billups really should play QB to that team but hey what do I know
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
yea
I know Billups is old but not that much older than Chandler i don’t think? Billups is what 34 and Chandler is what 31 32?
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
yep
so they are basically the same age then… I’d prob take the PG
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
And they aer losing Rautins to get Chandler.
Ladies and Gentleman, your 2012 NY knicks
Melo, Stoudemire, Chandler, and……Landry Fields, Toney Douglas, and Balkman.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
I think some of those qualify for your hate...
…but Landry Fields should probably be on the left side of that ledger
Just saying an extremely thin team
Even less than the Heat last year, and they’ll be fighting with the heat and lakers for the vet minimum types to fill out the roster. And the lack of depth will force them to play stoudemire too many minutes and wear him out.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
we may need to try for one or two amnestied guys
Especially if Nene leaves, we need guys who don’t care what city they play in or what superstars are around them, good locker room guys, can score when needed, and be trade bait for later possibly as they can be dealt after 30 days if the team struggles out of the gate and needs to go in tank mode.
by jd80229 on Dec 10, 2011 12:34 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Any news on other moves?
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Nets expect decision on Nene today. Offered 4 years and $64 million (most they are allowed to offer).
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
any prediction?
I think today comes and goes without an answer from Nene
by swag surfin on Dec 10, 2011 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
that's what i bet as well
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
Well, Nets want an answer.
I do not feel like he’s going to sign with the Nets. Total gut, but why go there with so many questions in the air in NJ. Deron Williams may or may not stay and no other legit bigs there. Brook Lopez is awful.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
If NJ
doesn’t get Nene or D12 i think D-Will ends up in Dallas next year
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
Mark Cuban is definitely saving his money for a big run next offseason...smart move.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
yep
and if D-Will has no company in NJ by then he will be off to his home town… I don’t blame him… if i was a superstar FA my first thought would be to go to my home town team who i grew up watching and loving.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
Plus Cuban will always do what it takes to put talent around his players…
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
That's my feeling too
Nets try to play hard ball by forcing an answer by today and Nene won’t go for it
by swag surfin on Dec 10, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
I think it is the nets holding things up
waiting on a howard trade. They are definitely in discussions.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
John Hollinger of ESPN tweeted that he thinks Nene is waiting on Pau trade to Rockets to see about signing there. Not sure why he’d want to play there w/ Pau. If I’m him, staying in Denver and letting Moz play 5 seems like a better fit.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
i just don't want Denver
going north of 14 mil per.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
Well, that's the reality.
Nets at $16M per and Masai Ujiri said the Nuggs are in same ballpark as other teams.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
ugh
not smart i wouldn’t do it.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
If he wanted to play in Denver
Why would he be waiting on Houston??
If he wanted to play in Denver, it should be done already.
exactly
I think the Nene ship has sailed
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
Making the Nuggets sweat like he feels they made him do?
haha … I feel like Nene is totally undecided.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
That's a lot of dough.
I don’t know what is best for Nuggets. Can keep competing w/ Nene on team and looks more like a rebuild without him. If Lakers lose Pau and Odom, West is pretty wide open with OKC maybe leading the pack …
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:46 PM MST up reply actions
He's not worth it
but is the extra couple of million he is overpaid going to matter? It’s not like they are saving cap space for another max player.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 12:46 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
True.
I may be leaning more towards saving money and keeping options open. Not sure Nene is the answer for a title run here …
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
I say
let these team offer max contracts to players who don’t deserve it… in the long run it just means more and more teams will be strapped with bad contracts and a harder time competing… no reason for Denver to conform… keep the money, develope young guys and go from there.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
Can't agree more nasty
The nuggets were strapped for years now it’s time to build something.Nene is not worth anything north of 12-13mil.
by tknuckle on Dec 10, 2011 1:28 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
It may be easier in the next few years
than it has been in the past. The league is soon to have 4 or 5 “super” teams with almost all the best players on them, but with them all very thin for depth. If you can beat OKC, a tall order, you can win the title.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
that's dumb. pau and nene will be fighting over who plays pf
and the rockets ditched all their perimeter players
Rockets will struggle to make the playoffs with Pau and Nene. My feeling anyway.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:46 PM MST up reply actions
They are high on Patrick Patterson (backup big) and Terrance Williams (attitude issues) …
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
If the Nuggets lose on Nene
I think Jamal Crawford could be a nice 6th man piece to add to this team as well.
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Bulls?
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Bulls are going hard for RIP
i think they will land him. I can see Crawford going to NJ too if NJ doesn’t get Nene and Howard
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
Bulls are high on Rip Hamilton
But Crwaford has history there too. If they got both, they could be even more dangerous. Crawford would be like their Jason Terry.
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by jd80229 on Dec 10, 2011 12:41 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
they can't afford both
I bet they end up with RIP at 3 or 4 mil per… they would have to trade a major piece to land crawford too… just isn’t happening.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
Crawford has no place on this Nuggets team.
They wont look at him…
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
yea he doesn't really sound like an Ujiri
type player…. but he does score.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
way more consistant
than JR IMO
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
disagree
Maybe points wise but Jr is a much better and more willing passer. Jr can also play some D from time to time
i never said which one was better
just that Crawford is more consistent
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
yea
He gives you consistent points and not much else, but I guess you’re right. Jr is the ultimate rollercoaster player, you never really know which Jr is gonna show up
and all denver needs
is points off the bench… they have the D in Dre, Faried and M&M
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
Let’s focus on you know what, and then look into him.
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We have that, we’re lending him to the Chinese.
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Measuring Value By Comparable Salaries
We know that when a team makes an offer for a restricted free agent it must ‘bid up’ the contract to make it uncomfortable for the team that owns the players rights to retain him. If Luc Mbah a Moute has an average value per year of $4.75m (which seems rich to me), then we can anticipate the bid for Afflalo is going to be quite high. Still, the Nuggets have no choice but to match it. For unrestricted Nene, it may take a maximum contract to retain his services, based on the rumors surrounding the NJ Nets. Without him, Denver will probably be a struggling team. No matter what happens with Nene, the Nuggets will need a shooting guard off the bench. Forbes is a restricted free agent. It’s not critical to match the offer, but he was a high energy guy off the bench that I would like to see return.
That’s why it’s best the Nuggets come to an agreement w/ Afflalo before he takes an overpaid offer from another squad. Not sure how many teams under the cap need/want Afflalo though. Most teams that need Afflalo are over the cap or right at the cap line. MLE is best bet for most teams, cheap re-sign.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
On a side note....
Have the nuggets gone from the most tattooed team in the league to the least? And if so, can the rest of the world please drop the stupid Thuggets moniker?
Still have Bird
automatically keeps them in the tattoo running.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 12:48 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
he's gonna need to spend some more time in the chair...
to make up for all the lost ink. Take one for the team, Bird!
by All Day Jay on Dec 10, 2011 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
as long as birdman is on the team
We’re the most tattoo’d team.
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Birdman alone makes them the most tattooed in the league
Thuggets moniker can be retired though… and Birdman still looks like a comic book.
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my phone is the slowest...my bad
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i have a Droid R2D2, was good a year ago and free
Can’t argue with free
by jd80229 on Dec 10, 2011 12:58 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
So nothing happened with Josh Smith?
I thought he might demand a trade… maybe he wants to play w/ T-Mac?
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Yeah, but with Portland it's not their fault...
…unless there’s something in—or missing from—the water they pull out of the Wilamette drainage that enhances the odds of leg injuries…
that and Lamarcus Aldridge
has an apparent heart condition and his future is up in the air right now too.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
and camby is old
and oden not only “took a step back”, he signed the qualifying offer, so he can leave in a year. That team only moves one step sideways, then one step back every year
seriously? when it rains it pours...damn
by jd80229 on Dec 10, 2011 12:56 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
It's official
They sold their soul too the devil when they won with Walton.
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Not a good thing obviously, but something that can be addressed with routine procedures, was my understanding.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 10, 2011 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
My vote is "other"
For reasons already stated here: We. Need. A. Shooter. If Ujiri can still manage to sign some shooting for the bench, Mbah a Moute is without a doubt an excellent player to have on your roster. Maybe the Nuggets will improve defensively.
Sick of this waiting game!
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 10, 2011 12:57 PM MST reply actions
AC is just sitting there
what is taking so long?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
Word is the Lakers will take AC if they can't get Paul
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 10, 2011 1:02 PM MST up reply actions
sources say nets trying to get him too
nets wasnt shawn williams, D12, and crawford, and Nene… all over the place
What's his status?
He’s far from my first choice, but we may be beggars…
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 10, 2011 1:08 PM MST up reply actions
Youth movement + Rebuild + Defense
is the route I’m advocating now.
Try to imagine a “Future Power Rankings”, a ranking of teams who are poised to be winning championships 3 or 4 years. I know which teams I’ll have at or near the top.
1. OKC Thunder (Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka)
2. LA Clippers (EJ, Griffin, Jordan, whoever they get with Minnesota’s pick and their pick this draft.)
3. Sacramento Kings (Tyreke, DeMarcus, Hickson, Thornton, Jimmer, Thompson, Biyombo)
Middle ground:
1. Minnesota Timberwolves (Love, Rubio, D-Will, Beasley, Randolph, Wesley, this one’s a bit more iffy)
2. Golden State (Curry, Lee, Udoh, Wright, Thompson)
3. Indiana (Granger, Collison, Hibbert, Hill, Hansbrough)
4. Memphis (Gay, Gasol, Mayo, Conley, Xavier – depends how well some of their guys progress)
5. Washington (Wall, McGee, Vesely, Young, Booker, Crawford)
You may have noticed none of the power houses (Miami, LA, Boston, Orlando, etc.) on this list. That’s because in a few years, we’ll be fading out the current superstars and making way for the new ones. Teams that are jokes now are poised to be contenders in a few years.
(Now of course, this list is fluid because once the teams like Boston and LA get tons of cap space (Boston’s big 3 will retire, Kobe retire, etc.) they’ll likely attract good players, but the point stands, the focus is on youth and the future.)
This relates to us, because we’re one of the first teams at this “crossroads”. We have tons of cap space, and we’ve yet to commit to rebuilding nor are we a contender. Do we continue to try and compete now or set up like the rest of the teams I listed?
This time is so ridiculously important because the 2012 draft is going to change the entire power structure of the NBA, mark my words. Teams built for the future are going to be EVEN SCARIER, and some of the teams built for now are going to be a little more secure for later. As many of you know, I’m unbelievably scared of the “middle-ground”, as should all of you be after experiencing a decade of it.
TL;DR: I’m just not reassured by our actions in this free agent year and am scared about what it could mean for our future.
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by Agaliarept on Dec 10, 2011 1:07 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Oops, sorry.
Been a little while since the draft, forgot he was traded.
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But is that really what you got out of the whole thing? LOL.
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if they go that route
They need to lockup AAA, and extend Lawson, and Gallo sooner than later.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kick me when I’m down.
Come on SBNation, let me edit comments.
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by InboundingLobPass on Dec 10, 2011 1:16 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I still believe the draft is a crap shoot
Even if we suck it doesn’t guarantee us a top pick, and if we’re a “middle ground” team we can still end up with a good player out of the draft. It really can go either way, think of how many players who became great were drafted AFTER players who were complete busts. Happens all the time
Very true
And with the Nuggets luck its better to be middle ground. We already tried the tank method and it got us Lafrentz, Skita, and Battie.
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by JR15 on Dec 10, 2011 1:14 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha, if you figure that we're cursed, I guess that changes a lot.
But look at the list. OKC tanked (Seattle was terrible), almost LACs entire core was drafted in like the last 3 years, and same with Sacramento.
The quickest ways to becoming contenders in the NBA is by gambling. Both the draft and FA are crap shoots. The only real safe way is internal improvement, and that’s not all that safe either and is slow for sure.
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so i guess im saying
Put together the best team you possibly can NOW, because the west is about to be wide open
See this is where I disagree.
There are several teams in the West (if you notice, 6 of the 8 teams I mention above are from the West) who have headstarts on the rest of the league.
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I just never know with us.
If Wilson and J.R. were here, maybe I’d agree. But then again, I don’t think Wil wants to be here and J.R.‘s crazy issues and relationship with GK has stunted his growth immensely imo.
Gallo, Ty, and AAA are all great pieces, but AAA isn’t even locked up yet and if we have to overpay for Gallo and Ty next year, that could hurt.
Hamilton and Faried are both still question marks, but definitely could help.
Bottom line is we’re set up pretty nicely for the “future-route”, but I’ve seen ZERO indications from the organization that we’re committed to that, so until we make a commitment it’s all up in the air.
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I don’t think it’s fair to say we’ve seen zero indication of the organization’s commitment. There’s only so much you can do at any one time to improve your squad. We don’t even fully know what we have with our new draft picks and ex-Knicks from the tailend of last season to see where all the pieces are going to fit. I liked your post farther up though with the breakdowns, I guess I’m just too much of a homer.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 10, 2011 2:57 PM MST up reply actions
NOM NOM NOM
I would like to take Kevin Love from Minnesota. Pipe dreams..
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Holy fuck Chauncey is irate tweets from Woj
For teams considering claim on Chauncey Billups, he tells Y!: “A leader can be as disruptive as he can be productive..This is about me now.”
Billups: “People take my kindness and professionalism for weakness. They think I’ll be OK with (getting claimed). I won’t be OK with this.”
Billups wants freedom to choose team. Warns those who’d claim him: You’ll regret it. “I’m tired of being the glue guy.” Story soon on Y!
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by Vee Sanford's Velvet Tracksuit on Dec 10, 2011 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
Damn!
CB is one pissed dude right now! Funny that ny could have declined his option over the summer,but said they wanted him there….oops!
knicks wanted his contract just for this reason.
CB expiring contract would’ve traded at the deadline had he not been amnestied. You gotta feel for Chauncey. How many former finals MVP’s get treated like that?
Poor guy
getting $14 million even if he goes home. Life is tough sometimes.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry. I forgot its wrong to have sympathy for a ball player
by adub on Dec 10, 2011 1:30 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Especially if it’s one of the classiest ones. Now he’s like Bret Hart in ’97.
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knicks are a piece of shit franchise. i will enjoy rooting against them even more now that Chauncey is gone and was jettisoned in this manner.
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I'm just saying
playing basketball while being pampered on private planes and with catered meals isn’t so tough. He’s still getting paid a ton. If he’d rather be with his family, he has that option. It’s an option that about 99% of us would love to have.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 1:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
just look at the cost of living these days
You’ve gotta have all the new Benz’s / and Maybachs.
Your kids need bling etc.
Plus gas prices just keep going up…
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 10, 2011 1:44 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Seems Familiar
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At this point
The strongest message Chauncey could send is retirement. All this talk is great, and I respect that, but it’s not going to stop a team bidding on him and hoping he plays it out with them.
It’s sad because it’s obvious that he only wants to compete for a championship again and play the game he loves, but he’s caught up in the politics and business of the NBA. I just hope he’s kept his money in good order and he can accept a lifestyle away from the NBA because I fear that that’s what might happen.
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Seems like he has it together
but you never know. Look at Mark Brunell.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions
please please please
Do not overpay for Nene! We have a serviceable team without him. Who knows how our draft picks will turn out. C’mon nugget nation, we’ve been through a lot worse than this. In Luc Mbah goes through I like our line of Mozgov, Gallinari, Faried, Lawson, and Afflalo, back ups of Koufas, Bird, Luc Mbah, Hamilton, Miller, throw in a couple fillers.
who scores on that team?
especially when the second unit is in?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
that's a team built to tank.
Any injuries and you’re looking at a 12 win team there…
so you are saying
nene is the difference between playoffs and the lottery? Man we should have four championships by now
not really
I’m saying that any injuries to a Nugget team without Nene would be a ticket to lottoland. If you get 66 healthy games from everyone, it looks like .500 team to me.
The really bad part
is because of the shortened season, Karl has a built in excuse for his suckitude. I can already see the post game press conferences…
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
Personally, i'm waiting to hear his comments
after the first back to back to back. Should be youtube worthy…
difference between first round playoff exit and lottery
For all but one year, let’s not forget that, maybe not THAT important considering…
by jd80229 on Dec 10, 2011 2:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I really don't want Andre shooting very much.
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He scored 50!!
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There was partly sarcasm in there somewhere.
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well
He put up some good numbers in last years playoffs with Portland, can’t remember which game but he lit it up against Dallas in one of them.
Billups wants to go to philly
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 1:36 PM MST reply actions
Or spencer hawes is signing
Probasketballtalk says it’s billups, but when you click on the link, it says Hawes.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 1:39 PM MST up reply actions
With the Eagles and Phillies
They need all the false hope they can get.
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Any chance?
Does Detroit make a move for Billups again?
Rodney Stuckey is clearly not the answer, and Brandon Knight is a rookie…
Bucks expected to match deal for Moute...
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
hahahaha
this is awesome
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
That’s a whole lot of dead weight for Wade and co. to pull.
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Wow
Didn’t Eric Dampier play for them on a one year vet min deal? Does Dampier not want back? B/c he was turrible and there’s no way Curry is better than him. Dude has played like three games in as many years.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 10, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
Juwan Howard... Eddy Curry..
one too old to run, one too fat to run. What an intimidating backup front court.
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We were going to get M&M, but Bucks matched.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
Bucks matched…
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 2:05 PM MST up reply actions
Not officially they haven't.... have they?
Believe it has been “reported” that they intend to.
Maybe they’ll want a S/T, which might work.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 10, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
IS there any news what so ever
on who else we are targeting, I don’t care if it really is A/C someone give me something.
what happens if we don't hit the cap floor? do we write a check?
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Yes, I hear it's the same as it was. Write a check to players for amount you are under.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
wow
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:07 PM MST up reply actions
Can’t see KSE happy about giving away free money…
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 2:09 PM MST up reply actions
nope
I don’t see it happening. I think we are about to see trades and FA signings from the Nuggets. I honestly think CP3 is holding all of the big time moves up… And if Denver loses Nene I would actually think a move to add DeAndre Jordan for around the same amount as Nene was making might not be a bad idea.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:11 PM MST up reply actions
prob right
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
Agreed
But it’s very possible that Nets get Nene and Houston gets Dalembert. Where can we even throw money to that’s not a mssive overpay?
Bet we go in to the season under that cap and just try to use the space to accquire picks.
I just wish we could see the team make a stride to improve or improve the situation.
by remyrems on Dec 10, 2011 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
i would almost overpay for Jordan
the guy is a beast and he is way younger than Nene, Chandler, Dalembert West etc…
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
yep
they could get cold feet and decide to hold the money for jext year to make some runs at D-Will D12 etc..
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
Of course they'd get back a lot of their own money
Through payment of luxury cap… however that all works.
Maybe we just lock up AAA and then set ourselves up as salary dumpsville
by legendarywalton on Dec 10, 2011 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
yuck
but could be a possibility
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
Knicks trying to get JJ barea
have no cap space. Trying to do a sign and trade with Dallas. There can’t possibly anything left that they could offer for him. I can see it now. Dolan calling up cuban, “come on plz take balkman for barea.”
hahah yea right
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:11 PM MST up reply actions
if bucks match our offer
Can we just come back and offer a little more?
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nope
once Bucks match it is set in stone
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
yep
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
Wait, I thought that deal was dead??
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RE-started again.
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So wait, what makes it a more palatable
deal now than before?
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nope
they resturctured it and sent it back in… I believe LA still loses Odom and Gasol as well as future pics and money this time.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
yep probably so
my guess is O’Neil even tho I though once you get traded you can’t get traded again for like 2 months or something which in that case O’Neil wouldn’t work but im not positive on that
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
Time to pick up Chauncey through the Amnesty auction
He can be our new starting PF
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good question
I bet they just wait until the Amnesty period is done and then have the player auction for all the players at once for all the teams who are allowd to bid.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
How would Deandre Jordan look like at PF?
Him and Mozgov would be a tall frontcourt
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i think if Jordan did sign
this year he would play PF with Moz… but i could see a future of him and Faried locking down the front court positions quite nicely… they could form a nice tandem… not a lot of scoring from those two tho.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
that is true
very true… Ty would have fun playing with em
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:25 PM MST up reply actions
great if he had a jump shot.
DJ and Moz would work well together on d as Moz is a stay at home type and Jordan is good from the weak-side (ala Camby). PF’s have to score in the west though…
not necessarily
Ibaka isn’t much of a scoring threat
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
yea thats true
but i still wouldn’t consider him a scorer
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
Mannnnnn
looking at DeAndre Jordan’s stat line… he doesn’t deserve a max contract… his numbers suggest he deserves a little north of what the Nuggets offered M&M
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ya i know. clips offered 8mill
sounds like Gs and kings may each offer over 10million. I think they’re going off his “potential” and dunks/shot blocks more than anything else
yea that's what i reckon
id go 12 per tops on him.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
His free throw shooting is ATROCIOUS.
Like worse than Nene after Melo trade!
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
This is not possible. Nothing could be worse than that.
Well, me shooting free throws, maybe…
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 2:57 PM MST up reply actions
I do have a little...
Only teams UNDER the salary cap are allowed to bid on amnesty players.
Let’s use Billups as an example.
1.) Knicks are paying him $14.2 million this season, but it’s not counting against the cap.
2.) I’m not totally sure how the “winning team” gets awarded the player, rules not clear on that.
3.) Let’s say only the Clippers put in a bid, one year and $3 million.
4.) Knicks now owe Bilups $11.2 million and Clips pay $3 million = $14.2 million.
5.) Clippers have him until July 1st … then allowed to trade him if they want (although he’d be a free agent anyway).
Let’s say Billups DOES NOT get claimed by a team.
1.) Billups would become an unrestricted free agent. Knicks forced to pay all $14.2 million.
2.) Billups signs with Miami Heat for 1 year and $1 million.
3.) Billups makes $15.2 million for the 2011-12 season. He can essentially “double dip” on getting paid twice.
Make sense?
Any questions?
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks, Nate
Billups is getting the same money either way if a team picks him up on amnesty, so no wonder he’s not excited about that.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 10, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
He wants to chase another ring and get paid even more to do so. Probably wouldn’t mind getting some revenge on the Knicks either, but at least they paid him the $14.2 instead of buying him out for $4 million like they could have before they picked up his team option. Billups will be fine.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
good stuff
I’m still wondering how long the “claim period is” and when he would get awarded if someone put in a bid
Ya, that part has been unclear.
We’ll find out soon enough!
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 3:40 PM MST up reply actions
People made fun of our training camp?
There were 5 at the knicks today: melo, amare, fields, douglas, shumpert. they practice 2 on 2?
I thought that was Karl's problem with Balkman...
He doesn’t practice
Nope, he wouldn’t share his stash.
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yea balk
smokes hash man… hash ain’t stuff you share unless your sharin it with your close peeps… lots of $$$$$$
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
Rule no 1:?
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yes he's dominant
GK wasn’t classified as one of Balks close peeps
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
don't know why i said dominant
sorry have lots of #highdeas racing thru my brain at the moment haha doing several things at once
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
Gallo said Practice went well today
hopefully he starts loving Colorado
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does this sound like a guy who wants to be claimed by the nuggets?
I know some teams out there are saying, ‘Oh, Chauncey will be great in mentoring’ and I’m tired of that. I’ve got a few good years left to play, and I’m not trying to come in and sit on the bench, or be a mentor. I’m not going to be that guy. I want to go somewhere and win. I want to choose."
absolutely not
nope
let him go where he wants… he deserves it
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
And this is exactly why the notion of bringing him back to Denver is bad
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 10, 2011 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
Chauncey wants the Heat
Guarantee it. F-it he wants to win…can’t blame him.
I’m sure he would also like to run the Knicks nose in it. Can’t blame him.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 2:47 PM MST up reply actions
why does that mean prepare for dissapointment?
all it says is Karl wants to keep them.
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Misread.
My bad.
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Well that could just mean it would be a nightmare for him
Not to say it means they will lose either or both.
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Raptors announce they signed Gary Forbes to an offer sheet?
Any idea how much, or if the Nuggs will match?
It's a two year offer with team option for third year. Money unknown, but doesn't sound like more much than a couple million.
Nuggets should match, interested to see if they will.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
maybe this will work for NO...though it sounds like rockets may get more cap to go after Nene
Rockets will have changes to their part of proposed 3-way deal, league sources tell Y! Sports. They’d be sending more players to Hornets.
As SI reported last night, Rockets sweetening the @CP3 deal with young players. Unclear who is involved yet.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 3:02 PM MST up reply actions
Meet our New Guy.....
Same as the Old Guy, EXCEPT
Apparently the Warriors have come to realize that pursuit of being a Champ
Depends on Biedrins playing like he did three years ago.
Good luck fellows.
If we sign AAA to lets say 9 mill
and let Nene go, how much money would we have to offer to any free agents for us to be above the salary cap? How much money and or players do we need to sign to be a “complete” team?
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
lets take another look at at Keith Braumbaugh
LoL
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!
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a river dance
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 3:23 PM MST up reply actions
what's up with the raptors
signing nuggets guys? kleiza, weems, forbes and now AC.
Not that I have a problem with that. Good luck, AC!
Wasn't Ujiri asst GM of the Raptors at one time?
Hmmmm
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and demarr
and linus and sonny……… they are our scrub dumpsite
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
Kleiza was a scrub? I'd like to have that scrub again.
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he bugged me
always turned the ball over in clutch plays, was clumsy and streaky. Just annoyed me haha
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 3:34 PM MST up reply actions
So just playing around on NBA trade machine
cuz im bored and came up with this…
Denver trades Lawson and Gallo to NO for Chris Paul
Denver trades Mozgov, Hamilton, Dre and his 7 mil expiring contract and 2012 Den 1st round pick for Dwight Howard.
Denver then signs Nene and AAA as well as picks up Chauncey… won’t start but can play at home and for a championship, match for Forbes and then sign maybe Al Thronton or some SF to play… lets go with Thornton just for $ reasons.
Paul/Billups
AAA/Forbes
Thornton/Faried
Nene/Fat Al
Howard/ Bird
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any of you who think there is ANY f.a. more worth over paying for than nene...
are delusional. i’ll give you that his reason for free agency sounded childish, but he never felt disrespected. he said that because EVERY f.a. that needs leverage to get a good deal says that. it is agent speak.
he is by far the best one on one defender, and by far the most polished offensive post player amongst the free agents. the nuggets are so far from the salary basement that they need to either over pay for the best free agent on the market or else take on peoples dump contracts. for what? it isn’t as though they will be in the running for a top tier free agent next year, especially with n.j. and dallas likely hoarding their money for it.
as a huge nuggets fan i have come to the conclusion that the rest of you need to arrive at. in todays nba climate, denver is not, and will not be a top tier f.a. destination. passing up on ANY opportunity to sign a player the magnitude of nene (and no i am not comparing him with howard, but i’d take him over any other big in the league) would put us in the same situation we were in during the post mutombo years. i personally don’t want to go through that again. simply put, if we sign nene and afflalo we are contenders for the western conference THIS season, with okc being the favorite.
people are vastly underestimating the role quality depth is going to play in the post lockout nba.
one final note for those of you that are not as defensively minded as i peg myself to be. marcus camby won the defensive player of the year award in no small part because of nene. sure he a p.g. who let every single opposing point guard by him which was custom made for a player like camby to get off the ball swats (that’s all camby was. a help defender. a damned good one at that), but the reason that camby got so many rebounds and blocks is because he could wander around with the knowledge that nene was going to box his man out vehemently and leave him to clean up the boards, and that nene was going to eliminate one player from the opposing teams offense so that camby was free to roam.
now if you consider that for much of his career nene has been playing the post next to guys like camby, camby light (birdman) and a slower and undersized post operation k-mart, can you imagine the defensive presence the nuggets would now have with the 6’10 gallo, 6’11 nene and 7’1 timo on the court at once, and the opportunities that would present for ty and aaa? just a thought… or ten.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 3:41 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
it seems he doesn't want to be here anymore
and WE know he’s not worth $17.5 million a year like KMart wasn’t worth that either, and at that time the Nuggets paid that for Kmart without bidding against anyone else, not happening again, its diminishing returns with him and paying him even more given his history (playing wise and injuries) doesnt make much business sense. Maybe his agent was just assuming Nene would get KMart’s money once that contract expired and was taken aback by the lower offer.
by jd80229 on Dec 10, 2011 3:53 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Any more news……
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for real this time
Dwight Howard has requested that the Orlando Magic trade him to the New Jersey Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.
Orlando GM Otis Smith told @JoshuaBRobbins today that Howard has asked for a trade. Sources tell Y! Sports that request is for the Nets.
So does that mean if they get him they can’t afford Nene?
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nene is worth every penny.
if he truly does not want to be here anymore, then there is nothing we can do about it, but if they don’t extend a 5th year in an attempt to re-sign him, it is a huge mistake.
again, the only reason it appears that he doesn’t want to be here is based on his “disrespected” speech which i definitely think was his agent talking, and he is otherwise just waiting to see how the houston/n.j climate plays out so he can get the 5th year at the 15.1 million that n.j. reportedly offered, from the nuggets.
that is a bargain compared to the k-mart deal.
the k-mart deal is incomperable to siging nene since nene has been healthy for years now and there is no reason to believe he won’t be, and who’s to say that the k-mart deal wouldn’t have been worth every cent had he not lost all of his lateral movement in those injuries?
yes, i contest that nene is worth 15.1 million a year these several years later than the even higher priced k-mart deal.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:06 PM MST reply actions
I don't think he is worth that type of money
If there is one thing we all should’ve learned from K-mart, it is that his deal bound us from truly improving when we needed to. The same type of deal to a player that can maybe get you 16 and 8 is pretty hefty
by Mancar on Dec 10, 2011 4:09 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Nene is worth $15 million / year
Two months ago I would have said no way.
But times change. The market sets the price, not arm-chair analysts on blogs. And seeing how Denver can afford him, it is worth over paying for a guy we know — with his good and bad — than spending on someone else.
Just the way it is, unfortunately.
I’d be singing a different song if Denver didn’t have the cap room or wasn’t required to be at 85 percent of the cap. So if we don’t sign Nene, we are going to have to spend that money somewhere. And Denver will need a big. So who? Thabeet?
I’m drawing a blank here. Who’s out there to spend money on?
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
"he can get the 5th year at the 15.1 million that n.j. reportedly offered, from the nuggets. that is a bargain compared to the k-mart deal."
me paying somebody $20 to insult my mother and kick me in the balls is a good bargain compaired to the kmart deal. please, please find a higher standard of “bargain”.
nene is not now, nor ever will be worth 15 milli a year, and it borders on malpractice for any gm to award him that sort of contract.
if masai doesnt want to be kiki 2.0, hell stay far away from that sort of dough for nene.
by calvin brodus on Dec 10, 2011 10:46 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
also
i’ve been wearing an awesome nene hat with his name and number on it for years, and i don’t want to have to burn it in effigy hehe.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:08 PM MST reply actions
You know, even if he does go, you still don't have to burn it in effigy:)
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looks like we found what's holding up this cp3 thing
Lakers had been searching for deal in past day to obtain a first-round pick to send New Orleans as part of Chris Paul package, sources say.
the one and only reason the k-mart deal crippled us..
was because he got injured and wasn’t the same afterward. it was considered a major coup at the time. i’m 34 and have been a nuggets fan since alex english and fat lever routinely battled the rockets and mavs for the division and the lakers for the conference. that is to say that i was a very small child when i started loving/understanding basketball with an emphasis on my home team. i went to every one of those nuggets vs. utah playoff games in the mutombo era following their surprising upset of coach karl’s sonics. that was soon followed by 10 odd years of miserable basketball where all i had to root for were the likes of antonio mcdyess, and for a short time rodney rodgers.
we can not afford another mutomboesque (best word ever)exit which people may laugh at my saying this, but this is just as big if not bigger than that since nene is a two way player.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:18 PM MST reply actions
thats what i am saying
Nene suffered a pretty big injury. Yes he has been healthy since, and for the record I am a huge Nugget fan. And granted we are closer to a contending team with him than without him, our current team is not winning a championship. I think we have the pieces, in Lawson, Gallo, Faried and Hamilton, but we really can wait until next year. I don’t know I might be in the minority here but I love the talent coming out next year (both in FA and the draft) we can use money on our players and one year contracts. If you did handle those crap years, than a shortened season of (maybe) dismal basketball should be cake.
by Mancar on Dec 10, 2011 4:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
i hear ya, i started watching the Nuggets about the same time
since the Nuggets are not cap strapped right now they could do $15 mill X 5yrs, but they also have to look at Lawson and Gallo extensions coming up, as well as matching AAA offers if he gets any, and those guys have more upside than Nene at this point, even if he moves to PF. That won’t change him from not kicking the ball out when he is within 1FT of the rim with NO ONE guarding him, or finger rolling sure dunks and missing.
agreed on lawson and gallo,
but that is a good problem to have. it means that they have taken the next step and become commodities. and your example on nene is the exception seen through a microscope, rather than the rule.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:30 PM MST up reply actions
My main point
is that we should really see what we have in our youngin’s if we can’t get Nene back. I’m not bitter if he wants to leave, I really like Nene and hope he finds success if it is not with us. I know we can afford it at this point, I’m just not sure that it suits our best interests to tie up that money when we have to look to the future.
oh i'll still wear it
it really ties together my fluffy, scruffy anti-hipster look, but PLEASE come back nene. by far my favorite nugget of all time.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:19 PM MST reply actions
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sorry phil. first day. figured i'd sign up...
since all the rumors are directing me to denver stiffs anyway.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:32 PM MST up reply actions
if Dwight goes to New Jersey
Is there any way we can sneak in and get Brook Lopez out of the whole thing?
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No
Brook Lopez will be the key piece going to Orlando for Dwight
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but if Orlando is rebuilding
then maybe they’d be more interested in young assets over just a 50 cent All star.
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Would be nice
I mean, if Nene is set on going, a sign and trade where Denver ends up with Lopez would be OK.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
the next best guy imo would be jordan
from the clippers.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:23 PM MST reply actions
we don't need another center who doesn't rebound.
a p.f. who doesn’t but is teamed with a center that does, now that’s another story.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:25 PM MST reply actions
i'de rather get humphries than brook lopez.
by a small margin. lopez has a mental block when it comes to rebounding. something like some of those catchers who can’t throw it back to the pitcher.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:26 PM MST reply actions
but Lopez was hindered by some sort of injury or surgery he had last year.
The year prior when he was 100% he was very good.
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Just the opposite.
He was scoring about 24 ppg after the DWill trade, even when DWill wasn’t playing.
Hump was taking rebounds away from Brook and Brook felt more comfortable staying away from the basket as a result (and because of the pain in his arm with contact – from the calcium deposits).
He was recovering from Mono and never had a real off season, plus a calcium deposit during the last 4 months of year.
He had surgery for that but once again lost time over the summer.
His future is bright.
Nets wouldn’t trade him straight up for Melo (if you recall).
that was not the case imo.
i think that was underreported/understated. there would have had to be more players involved. either way, i’d rather have nene or gallo than melo or brook cause they are not one sided players.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:42 PM MST up reply actions
Both Woj and Bucher (on ESPN New) confirm that Howard wants trade to Nets (Lakers #3 choice) and ORL DOES want to get it done soon.
That means Nene could still be a Nugget. Bucher said Nuggets are higher choice that Houston, though he would probably go to Nets if Howard doesn’t happen.
Please root for Howard to Nets.
If we sign Nene
we can theoretically do a sign and trade with Orlando, some draft picks, maybe… Gallo along with it for Lopez? What do you all think!
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boooooooooo!
that’s not a good trade. nene AND gallo are both better than book (no r)
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:36 PM MST up reply actions
Lopez?!
he is a 50% FG for his career, has averaged 17 points a game his career with 7.6 RPG average. Now, lets not forget he is solid on defense. Imagine LOPEZ/NENE as a front court? That is a good front court, give or take the whole rebound thing. I think Lopez would be back at his usual self this year though and start rebounding 9 rebounds this time. Lopez won’t want to play alongside Dwight nor play the rebuilding game with Orlando. He’d be perfect with the up and coming same year-ish as him in Denver.
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I'd rather have Gallo than Lopez
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Wait
you mean Gallo+picks for Lopez? Not Nene and Gallo+picks? Because if it’s the latter you should step away from the computer screen for a second
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No, just the former
I wouldn’t want to give up Gallo, it would be like grinding teeth but you have to admit it would be worth it.
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Even if you make that deal
Who is our perimeter scorer?
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Lawson would be
We would give him Chris Paul minutes and see what he does with it. All of our plays would come directly from him.
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No.
Your point guard is not your primary perimeter scorer unless his name is Derrick Rose.
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by free7694 on Dec 10, 2011 4:44 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha ha
Oh man. You are one of these basketball purists. Where the PG must be an assist man and Centers and big forwards are only allowed to rebound and the only scoring should come from the wing.
Man, take your baskets where they come. I wouldn’t complain if a PG scored 20 a night. Or pulled down 10 boards.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I'm not saying there's a problem with it.
I’m just saying there’s not a lot of guys that can do it.
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Gotcha
I was getting sentimental about those football threads, with people saying a certain QB would always suck if he wasn’t a pocket passer.
I dislike boxes.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
“Certain QB FB”
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by Kevin L on Dec 10, 2011 4:52 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Okay fine
we keep Gallo, if Magic won’t take draft picks +Moz+Faried than we just forget about it.
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Hmm I'm not as much on the Lopez is awesome bandwagon so actually I rather have Gallo
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Wasn’t landing Faried a steal in the first place?
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But then we would have the smallest training camp again.
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smallest in what way?
Besides, aren’t you on team Kouf, not team Moz? All Twilight references aside.
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I’m with team keep the Nugs one of the tallest youngest and least stiffiest squads in the west.
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So is the Turk.
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but the Turk is more bigger
and Moz is too skinny, Moz needs to bulk up before he gets the “I break you” reputation he gets.
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So in agree
They’re both tall, white, clumsy stiffs.
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Turk is a
slob that is worthless at basketball now.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 4:53 PM MST up reply actions
He’s a clog on the defensive end though.
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hes terrible at basketball
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 4:55 PM MST up reply actions
Not THAT Turk!!
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Sorry!!!!!!
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
Turkoglu
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 4:55 PM MST up reply actions
I thought the Turk was..
Nevermind. I was thinking Kouf, but I got Turkey and Greek mixed up.
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oh hahaha
sorry thought you were talkin about Turkuglu…. Kouf has game
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
Sounds like a lot of Tofurkey to me
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a Turducken?
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Wait he’s Greek? I’mma smash some plates now.
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by InboundingLobPass on Dec 10, 2011 5:51 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I <3 Faried
Not interested in drafting that rebounding machine.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
drafting = trading
for the purposes of this comment.
Ugh.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
trading, I presume?
Okay fine.. Moz+Draft Picks+Andre Miller
That is the final offer.. do you approve.
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Then let me guess
Make a run at Chauncey?
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I'd be OK with CB coming back
If he is OK off the bench and we trade Miller.
But, as much as I love Chauncey (Park Hill represent!) I don’t think he’d work here.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Replace one of the two players with Harrington
And I’d do it
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The second time within a year we are rooting for a player to be a Net
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the pigeon will then take over.
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Rooting for Howard to Nets
Commencing.
Also rooting for Gasol to the Rockets, since that trade would have eliminated much of Houston’s scratch.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
actually, doesn't it create more money?
they would give up scola and martins sallaries which i believe are higher than gasol. also i think that playing with gasol is enticing to nene since they are friends, despite the fact that the team would be sorry for a few years.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 4:39 PM MST up reply actions
When the deal was announced
Houston only had $13 million left to go after Nene. According to the sources I was reading at the time. I didn’t do the accounting myself; just repeating what I heard.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Yes, we heard the same.
It may be more now.
No one understands what Houston is up to.
It appears that Lakers are being pressure to find a decent 1st round pick for NO, but not sure how it relates to Houston giving up more players.
Bucher said if Howard to Nets gets completed, then CP3 deal is more likely to go through because the NBA doesn’t want Howard + CP3 to Lakers.
Bucher also said Nene to ORL was also a possibility..
which would mean Nuggets get something back. It could be a 1st round pick (IMO).
Honestly looking at NJ's roster....
what would orlando want? Outiside of Dwill, there’s Lopez….and farmar…..and morrow…and…and…and? I know they have LA’s 1st this year, so their 1st, la’s 1st and a 2014 first?
Is there any case that they have to take Turk’s contract?
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that's what I've been saying
I don’t see orlando accommodating him.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2011 4:48 PM MST up reply actions
I'm kind of surprised chicago hasn't been in the howard mix
they have the market and the assets.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2011 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
I've heard some things
The definitely plan on making some moves, but are pretty quiet, save being on the make for a SG.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
they are content with Noah
however Noah and Gibson for Howard could probably get done and D-Rose with Dwight would be pretty sweet. I think Chicago is trying to build a team around Derrick as the sole superstar and then just a bunch of good-decent players fill out the roster instead of 3 superstars and then scrubs or over the hill vets
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
The Jordan method.
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yeup
i think it could work with DRose runnin the show…. here’s to Ty developing into somthing as dominant as a force
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 4:52 PM MST up reply actions
I wouldn’t say Dominant. I’d go with Fast as F*ck.
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i know i just hope
Ty can dominant games like Rose can sometime in the future
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 4:55 PM MST up reply actions
I know who we should go after
Anderson Varejao!
What was I think.. Get the Vajo!
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NO
Great Oden’s Raven NO!
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
I can only take so much flopping
And Gallo supplies more than enough… I couldn’t take Verajo too
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
but Flopping =
we get the ball. Not to mention The Cavs were not terrible last year until Vajo went down. He is a glue type guy who would work well with Nene. He averaged 7.4 rebounds in 33 minutes last year. Also they are both Brazilian and maybe they’d play harder together.
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but Flopping =we get the ball.
Except when you have Denver Nugget on your jersey.
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by SDcat09 on Dec 10, 2011 5:01 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
THIS
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:05 PM MST up reply actions
isnt he like 6'9 tho?
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:04 PM MST up reply actions
That's it
He’s on that good stuff.
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by Kevin L on Dec 10, 2011 4:57 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
OOOOH...replacement ChiaHead
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Sideshow Bob…..
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This is a compelling argument
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I like Varegina...
He’s like Nene, but whiter…
What’s with Brazillians and not rebounding?
At least we Argentineans are excellent rebounders
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Oh this makes me laugh every time
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Scola, Manu and...
Who else from Argentina is in the NBA?
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As a German
this is another reason for me to heart him
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We want Chia pet puff hair not Sideshow Bob.
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Good point
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I totally read this as the Vao of Hair...no really.
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Guys...
Should I start DeMarius Thomas in the flex, or Pierre Thomas?
And which defense: Bears, Chiefs or Lions? Chiefs have the best matchup against Sanchez. But… I’m scared.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Start the Lions D
Against Joe Webb and Toby Gerhart
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Game-time decision
Doesn’t sound like he’ll play, though
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Sounds like someone should Ponder this idea
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When Tim Tebow has a thought
Is it a Christian Ponder?
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
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Bears D
sorry but Tebows run ends this week… Peppers Urlacher and Briggs will make sure of that. Then as far as flex id still probably play DeMarius for the fact that no RB in NO is safe besides maybe Sproles
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All Tebow's gonna need is like 7 points
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I think Denver will win 14-3
on two defensive TDs
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:10 PM MST up reply actions
ive been slowly proven wrong
with what I have been saying about the Broncos and Tim Tebow. I will start sippin that Kool-Aid after I see what they do against Chicago and New England
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:12 PM MST up reply actions
You'll see in February when John Elway hands the Lombardi trophy to Tim Tebow
“THIS ONE IS FOR TIM!”
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holy cow
your drunk on that kool-aid my friend
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:14 PM MST up reply actions
lol just BELIEVE!!!!
It was the same belief that Nene could be a double digit rebounder
HE-YO
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ha nice
keep hopin my friend!
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:17 PM MST up reply actions
I will literally throw something at my TV if he says that.
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Look I'm cheering right along but if we make it to the Super Bowl
It will be a more lopsided destruction than SF v Denver was.
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I'm certainly hoping to be proven wrong
but my fluke-o-meter is still pinging like crazy.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2011 5:13 PM MST up reply actions
tebows bells
will be pinging tomorrow when he meets Julias
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:16 PM MST up reply actions
I am being so very good right now
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sorry
are you a firm Tebow supporter?
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:24 PM MST up reply actions
She worships the water he walks on.
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Exactly LOL
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Not really.
I’m more of a Tebow agnostic
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hahahah
i got friends and family that are as well.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:26 PM MST up reply actions
Tebgnostic you might say
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ha love it =)
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:29 PM MST up reply actions
Meaning I still question his QBness
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I hate when that happens.
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It's the AFC West
a team can be a fluke and make the playoffs. So fluke to the postseason I say!
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I was like who the hell is Garret LOL
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hola
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:14 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah reading is fundamental
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hahaha
=)
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:15 PM MST up reply actions
Yes reading is fundamental
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Cat, you be interested to know that reading is fundamental
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I be?
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I just hate the month of May so much
although it is the month I graduate(5 more months!!)
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Say wat?
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Go ahead and put may in front of be and a word will have been constructed
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LOL gotcha
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Although in this case they should be separate
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Maybe
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It may be that maybe May be a month of great virtue
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Is this the non-sequitor portion of today's thread?
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Said that about Jonestown too.
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That's the joke
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I actually think it's going to be a tough game
probably overtime
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I honestly think it will be which
D can score a TD
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:10 PM MST up reply actions
Probably true
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I could always sit Michael Bush
And play Thomas there.
With Ingram out, Thomas will definitely get some touches. I’m afraid the GB / Raiders game will be a shootout. Not good for RBs.
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ingram's out?
good lord start pierre. forget demarius.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2011 5:10 PM MST up reply actions
yea didn't know that
beware of Chris Ivory tho.
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Sproles….
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yea but
Pierre will still get carries… Sproles usually only gets about 5-10 carries and the rest are passing plays
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:24 PM MST up reply actions
The Kittens play the Viqueens
The Teddy Bears are gonna get run on by Tebow
Go with the Kittens
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You are not being nice to yourself
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What are you watching?
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OT
Watch Step Bros or whoop my roomate in NHL 12 or NCAAF 12?
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What you're not watching the Heisman Trophy stuff?
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i have him 2nd
behind Trent Richardson and then the WIsconsin back 3rd.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:22 PM MST up reply actions
I hope the Broncos could somehow draft Richardson
Tebow, Richardson, and McGahee would be such a punishing offense
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Yeah but where's the QB?
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i agree
but Clev is picking wayy higher than Denver and Cleveland loves Richardson. Ive seen him taken as high as 5 in some mock drafts going to Cleveland.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:27 PM MST up reply actions
nah
i’ll just wait for the ESPN text. Im rooting for Trent Richardson and hate that he’s gonna end up in Cleveland but love the guy as a player. Best RB i’ve seen in college in a while
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:21 PM MST up reply actions
Baylor QB should win but won't because Baylor isn't as profitable as Bama for the NCAA
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Too bad Russel Wilson fell out
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Ok back to basketball.
Anything?
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Apparently
the CP3 deal is still being worked on and hasnt been submitted yet
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:30 PM MST up reply actions
I don't understand what would make the deal more palatable now than before
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i believe
LA coming up with a pick and Housten sending more than just Scola and Martin which for Pau does not make much sense i feel Scola and Martin is fair value for Pau
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:32 PM MST up reply actions
Dwight Howard was reported eating a bag of Bugles
how this relates to his future prospects playing with the Brooklyn Nets, is unknown.
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Bugles are awesome
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I wonder if Nets fans are tracking the plane of the Russian again?
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I'd be more impressed if they tracked his carrier pigeons
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Hmm
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/PROKYPIG5
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Well well
Cincinnati in a brawl.
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I was just watching this. Needs more KMart
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just saw
the two guys from cincy should be kicked out of school. Both teams are going to be in serious trouble.
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Jason Richardson has reached agreement on a four year, $25M deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells Y! Sports.
The Plan For Nuggets
Could we:
1) I’m wondering how many picks we could get by just bidding the most for amnesty players and trading those guys to contenders for their junk and a pick. Could we find enough guys to get Bosh from Miami?
2) Play our youth until our boys from China finish.
3) Resign Chandler, KMart and JR for the playoff run.
Ok. Skip step 1 if that is the case
I like KMart better than Nene anyway
OH NO BRAUN!!!
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I am seriously shocked at this.
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what happened???
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Oh wow, totally stunned
Oh wow, totally stunned……ESPN’s ‘Outside The Lines’ reporting NL MVP Ryan Braun faces 50-game suspension for PEDs http://es.pn/uZ7mOT
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wow
kinda shocked… he’s not really even that jacked… i mean stout for sure but not that jacked… crazy
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 5:53 PM MST up reply actions
Really....
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hahahahaha
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Kemp should’ve won (ducks)
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I actually agree
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If they started testing as vigorously in MLB and NFL as they did in Olympic sports then soon cycling would seem "clean"
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Right
I read the script incorrectly! Ryan Braun is an anomaly!!!
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Hey that story is at least creative enough for it to still have merit 17 months later!
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Beats A-Rod in terms of creativity, that’s for sure.
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Don't be a dope
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Just more proof
that baseball sucks
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Meanwhile Price Fielder caught injecting barbecue sauce before games
thereby proving he is a fraud vegetarian!
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I have been sorely disappointed with this season :(
I hate Lori. I ship Rick and Shane. :) I like Shane because he’s out of his mind, love me some Daryl and thought the last 10 minutes of the finale went along way to saving this viewer
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I think its all of Sophias fault
I didn’t care if she was dead or alive and it was like the only thing that was happening in that entire season.
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I blame Lori for everything. The ZA, Shane being crazy
all of it. I don’t care what it is, I blame her for everything bad.
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I like Shane
because you never know what he is going to do next, the best moment was when he shot the redneck in the leg for zombie chow. He is psychopathic but has good intentions. My least favorite so far is T-Dawg.. must I explain? I just hope they get off the farm soon, and get to the Jail. (Hopefully, like in the comics)
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Spoiler alert man!
I don’t know anything about the comics.
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Did you know Daryl was not in the comics?
And Shane died at the camp in the first season in the comics? Its like a alternate universe so who the heck knows what they are going to do with the show.
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Well shit, now I do :(
Which part of I know nothing about the comics was unclear. Now I’m scared Shane will die. :(
Boooo you!!! :)
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Sorry, couldn't help keep my Glen up. :P
if you get that reference that is..
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I got $50
on Trent Richardson
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He won't win but this is awesome
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SEC
toughest D’s.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 6:04 PM MST up reply actions
Am I the only one who thinks Montee Ball is a fantastic name for a running back
or future game show host?
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Is it?
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by Phil H. on Dec 10, 2011 6:15 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Not seeing the comparison here.
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Oh get with it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DabmENJkRJA
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anyone know what's up with Michael Redd?
He’s a UFA coming off knee surgeries, should be healthy now. Did he have any issues with Coach Karl when with the Bucks? He could be a bench option for scoring…
Boston-NO deal for David West still on hold, sources say. Waiting on NBA. C’s rookies, JaJuan Johnson and E’Twan Moore discussed in deal.
Purdue PF? Gasp!!
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Hehe
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These are scary faces....dislike
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Finally! Sounds like this thing is moving
The New Orleans Hornets have delivered a reconstructed framework of the three-team blockbuster trade sending Chris Paul trade to the Los Angeles Lakers into the NBA office for approval, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
In the latest details available to Yahoo! Sports, sources say that New Orleans would send the Lakers Paul, and possibly two Hornets free agents – center Jason Smith and Marcus Banks – would be sent to the Lakers in sign-and-trade agreements.
The Rockets would send Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, a 2012 first-round pick and possibly young players or additional picks to the Hornets.
The Lakers would send Lamar Odom to the Hornets, Pau Gasol to the Rockets and league sources say that Los Angeles was pursuing a first-round pick to send to the Hornets.
"It’s in David Stern’s hands now," one source said. "He’ll decide on the trade."
And Khloe?
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They'll be divorced in a year
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You'd think Scola would be an up-and-comer
but he is only 1 year younger than Odom.
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Nor would I.
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The hell’s with LSU and their DB’s wearing No.7
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AAA deal?
are we just waiting for someone to make him an offer, then match it? I’m starting to get worried about the lack of movement here…
It is interesting how no one has offered anything yet
you’d think someone might throw a tiny bite at AAA just to see what happens.
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I get the feeling
we are simply waiting for someone else to make an offer, which is fine in any other season. Unfortunately this year camp is 17 days long and we currently have 11 guys there. Lets do this.
eh....
“My thing is, at the end of day, it’s a business,” Harrington said. “The lockout taught us that once again. I understand that if Nene doesn’t sign back, and it’s an extremely young team, it might be time for me to go. Or it may not. The feeling I get is that I’m going to be here and they look for me to be a leader to the young guys.”
I know Al gets a lot of crap here,
but truthfully I really like the guy’s personality. Who knows hopefully his plantar fasciatis heals he might be okay for us.
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I'm with you
He’s a nice enough guy and says all the right things and has a good sense of humor.
But, man, did he suck last year. Hope he turns it around.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
lead the young guys
in a burger eating contest, that is…
Good Sport, my hamburglar man.
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i like buckets, just not
on a rebuliding team…
Holy crap! RG III wins the heisman.
RGIII.
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Once again a quarterback who runs because he has no field of vision is the next great thing.
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RGIII wins
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Billups on possibly facing #Knicks in playoffs: “I would like a chance at them, I’ll tell u that much. I’d absolutely love that.”
Billups on #Knicks as title contender: “I think they are probably a couple of pieces short, but I wont say what those pieces r.”
More Billups on #Knicks: "From the 1st day I got there it was about who was going to be next pt guard, w/o giving me a real chance…
More Billups: “The whole deal with Denver was about Melo…But I dont think the #Knicks valued what else they got in the deal.”…
More Billups: “it’s like (the #Knicks) forgot all about the impact I did have on that team….”
Billups confirms Andy Miller threat: “If I get claimed by team I dont want to play 4, I would absolutely consider retirment.”
Billups: “Its not in my makeup to b selfish, but it just feel like this time i need to b a little more concerned with me.”..
Billups: “I can go back 13, 14 yrs where…everyone loves me…and yet Im always the one who pays the price.”…
Bllups on signing w/ the #Heat: “I want a chance to win, so any team that’s playing for it all, I’d be interested in.”
Billups: “I’m still playing at a hi level. I’m not interested in going somewhere to b a mentor coming off the bench.”
Have fun in south beach Chauncey. Be sure to screw Bron when we need you to.
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I feel awful for Chauncey.
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Good for him
Got fucked over his entire career. I felt absolutely sick when we traded him in February…
He’ll be the missing piece for the Heat
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You guys watching this special on Todd Marinovich?
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ZOMG!
It’s uber creepy…I don’t know if I like it or not…..
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Rubber. Suit.
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That's the least creepy thing.
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lol that's prbly around the levelnets are offering
how diff is say gallo+ 2picks from lopez +2picks. Maybe the core of ty, afflalo, chandler, hamilton, faried will work?
Can't trade rookies for 30 days
Hamilton and Faried already signed so they’re out.
Something that will come up is that if not signed by Jan 1 with the new team. Dwight loses money and 5th year.
Wouldn't be enough.
Unless they’re trading him for just a rental.
If I were GM of the Nuggets I would sure as hell push to be in the conversation. Especially if you get Nene back. With NJN possibly trying to hold on to their space to force the inssue next year you may have a shot.
Gallo + Mozgov + Chandler rights + our pick next year and NYK pick in 2014. For Turk and Howard. Might get you in to the conversation. Remember we do hold a 18 million cap exception to throw in there. As far as teh extension you don’t make that trade unless you have one. But don’t assume untilk you hear it from him.
I’d like us try and be in the conversation to spice up this off-season. Just try to be in the conversation later, even if you fall short.
he wouldn't sign an extension...
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 10, 2011 7:56 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
i wish
even for one 66 game season
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 8:06 PM MST up reply actions
now does the team
Howard is on going into his FA year affect how many years and how much $$ he can make like Nene and how Denver can offer 1 more year and more money?
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 8:08 PM MST up reply actions
Here's how it's done
Shit load of draft picks…
plus
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=79bvp8l
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get er done
technically it would be Moz Miller and Gallo plus a couples 1st for Howard then the TPE for Turk in a seperate deal
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 8:11 PM MST up reply actions
I'd rather have Gallo long term
than Howard for one season.
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by CloudBurst on Dec 10, 2011 8:11 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yup
So assuming AAA and Nene re-up this is how we’d look
PG Ty Lawson/Chauncey
SG AAA/Hamilton
SF Hedo/Alburgers
PF Nene/Faried/Bird
C Howard/Bird/Koufos
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With Bird rights and that this is a trade
We’d have enough money
and be a luxury tax team, BUT very competitive
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And then
when D12 decides that he’s not going to re-sign and wants to leave, we can package them together and ship Chauncey out a 3rd time!
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or actually
offer up 2012, 2014 1st along with knicks 2014 1st, mozgov, and hamilton. Get a roster of
c-howard/bird/koufas
pf-gallo/faried
sf-turdoglu/chandler
sg-AAA/chandler
pg-Chauncey (so he’s cool with it)/ty
dream on
if it looks too good to be true, it undoubtedly is.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 8:17 PM MST up reply actions
yes, but that deal is in effect because...
they have d.will and howard would do an extend and trade by virtue of that. last i checked he is not willing to do so to play with lawson.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 8:30 PM MST up reply actions
not really
they don’t have to trade him there just cause he will resign there. If they like mozgov, gallo+picks better lopez+picks, they can send him here.The nuggets will then have to bring back nene, chandler, afflalo, and maybe even Jr, and go full force into the playoffs to convince him to resign. It would essentially be a gamble.
do you honestly think n.j. would make that deal
without a deal to extend in place? not a chance.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 8:35 PM MST up reply actions
totally
Howard says he wants to go there,and he gets more money by resigning rather than extending.Plus Dwill is there, and they’re going to the NYC market. We could gamble to get him for a season, and see if post season success convinces him
"new york market"
most important part of all of that. we need to hope we can sign our two guys, not have delusions of grandeur.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 8:47 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
no but it's a cuban market
the kroenke’s will never again pay the luxury tax unless it is to sighn their own players. even then i doubt it.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 8:52 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
just look at the avs.
they BARELY payed to be on the sallary basement when they have glaring holes they could have filled in free agency.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 8:53 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Ehh don't buy this argument
They spent a large chuck on Ryan Smyth and Hannahan a number of years back. They got burned there as well as Kmart.
I do think they won’t drastically overpay for marginal upgrades. This off-season the only move that was questionble was Varlamov for picks instead of working hard on Vokkoun. No other real impact players there.
Previous to last year we were a top 5 payroll team for a number of years. Don’t say that screams we have a cheap owner.
comparing ryan smiths 2 year contract to k-marts?
really. all i’m saying is they STILL have all that money to spend and the only moves they made were the now gone joakim lindstrom, kobascrew and #16 who’s name o forget because he doesn’t warrant my remembering it.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
In fairness
The talent out there was dreadful.
Richards was the only guy that was a diference maker this off-season at center where they are deep.
As far as Kmart vs Smyth/Hannahan they were both deals that strapped the cap of the team by quite a bit. Less money but same cap situation.
Liked the Hedja signing this off-season just hated the Varmy trade as I still thought they were one more year away. That pick could be huge.
flash?
fleishman is killing it and he was ours.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 9:14 PM MST up reply actions
i'm with you on the trade though.
if they pressed it, they could have traded just one pick given that he wasn’t coming back to wash. and they already had two guys.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
Teams were reluctant with Flash
Missing an entire season due to a blood disorder doesn’t inspire teams to be all in.
Someone was going to give him a try but a lot were scared away.
I must say Sacco has to go. This dump and chase offense is horrible. All teams have to do is beat you to the corners.
I don't believe that's a fair comparison
Basketball is close to Kroenke’s heart. That’s why Josh is personally involved as the president and works with Masai on everything. When the time comes to compete again, he’ll spend. The question is what kind of team do we have now. it’s not a championship contender…yet
You only have to worry on Nene
Set your price on Afflalo and let everyone else make his price.
I do believe market factors in to it. But there will be a money issue and NJ would be gambling a lot this year. They want D will to stay but he wants to see improvement to stay. Meanwhile they have to renounce Lopez just to have near max money next year. Dallas can get creative by slashing Marion or haywood. But even this year has no center. I know Cuban wants to act he’s smarter then others out there. But blasting this year for a shot at Howard in the off-season next year would be a rough sell.
Anyone watching UFC 140?
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NetsDaily must be full of a lot of pain
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NetsDailly like a constant roller coaster
But the opposite of Phoenix. With new owner and arena everyone believes in the Net’s future.
Whereas in Phoenix I’ve never seen so much depression, not that they don’t have
a good team but in the whole state of the franchise.
Who knows
maybe Dwight likes the Mountains hahaha
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
Tebow
since your arm is useless at least use your national attention and recruit for us!
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 8:23 PM MST up reply actions
Let's Pray
Everybody on one knee.
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What if they want Gallo and AAA?
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You and your realism!!
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Hard to sell the man staying with a core of Lawson/Nene/Howard
Orlando definatly needs a center back so Mozgov or Anderson would be in there.
Everyone jokes on Tebow
But if I were trying to sell Denver, Tebow can charm the pants off a lot of people. He has MJ-esque levels of charisma.
I thought this thing would be over soon
Lakers Offer Pau Gasol to Warriors; Source Calls Offer "Ridiculous"
Really…
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Very opposed to that myself
How quick we are to forgot what happend when he was the man in Memphis…
Kinda funny
Talent wise I agree. But if I want a more core component it’s Nene. You can build your offense through him. Gasol requires more spacing.
Kind of funny.
They get him for pennies on the dollar but try to trade him for full price. Even when less year saw a large drop off late in the season and due 3 years at 19 million.
well, yo know the lakers seem to have a policy, never lose the trade never
no matter how ridiculous you look, ask for more than the player is worth
Don't you remember
Lakers own the mother effin Death Star in the NBA world.
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I do that on my FF team...
Offer to trade Wes Welker for your whole team….
haven't heard much on the possible CP3 trade
LA seems to be stuck with needing to get a pick in there. Ebanks and Character aren’t going to be selling points.
Everyone looked at talent and thought it was a descent haul. But NO would be in a horrible situation. If Scola and Kmart jr can’t get it done with Houston why would that swing with switching Lowry/Buddinger/Lee for Odom/Dragic. The deal made no sense there.
Seems like LA stuck trying to find young talent with Gasol/Odom as the pieces.
in other words, like the knicks,
are feeling a sense of entitlement and assuming they can make something out of nothing. i sooooo wish they had held out for a hard cap so that the cities themselves would be the draw, and not the cities+their spending power. that is a completely unlevel playing field.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 9:09 PM MST up reply actions
Agreed
I wanted the hard cap for that reason as well.
I knew Amnesty would jack things up. Every time I saw that dumbass argument of “If you have compotent management you can compete as a small market” We’re not a small market but if you’re out of the top 6 markets there is no difference.
i think the league (owners of n.o.)should try to get as many
of n.o.‘s worst contracts onto the lakers to ensure that the lakers don’t turn around and trade bynum for howard…. if they have any that is. not many players left.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 9:06 PM MST reply actions
RT @MSteinmetzCSN Warriors to sign DeAndre Jordan to 4-year, $40 million offer sheet. No Biedrins amnesty to do it. http://bit.ly/t4OBTN
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Last I checked Clippers offered 5 years, $40mil
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Ah, that's completely different lol.
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still don't think its enough
i think around 12 a year will do it. you gotta overpay to steal RFAs away
and doesn't that mean that if the clip's match
he’s off the market?
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 9:18 PM MST up reply actions
saw that as well
it could be that there is no one to sign pretty quick here.
Dalembert looks like Hou or Dal. Nene could be Hou or NJ or us. The top 15 FAs beyond that are dedicated elsewhere. It could be Nene or bust for us.
the discrepency between his and chandlers deals
is unreal to me. chandler is a great defensive, injury free center…… for exactly one season, and not getting younger.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 9:24 PM MST up reply actions
Any word from our camp?
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Hamburger: "NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by moondoggie12 on Dec 10, 2011 9:49 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL I think we have a winner
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I'm glad I ordered the appetizer.
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"this hamburger represents the height of my vertical leap"
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crap
The three-way deal to send Chris Paul to the Lakers has “fallen apart,” league source involved in talks says.
double crap
Sources say Lakers will instead trade Lamar Odom to Dallas into Mavericks’ new trade exception
I don't know
Can we Masai? Pretty please. we have an exception too. Throw those GS 2nd round picks in if you have too. Plz Masai
Could be huge...
Takes Dallas out of max room even with amnesty in 2012 off-season. NJ may just sit on their space to try and make sure Orlando gets him forced their way. Means Nene could be headed our way. Also sets it so Houston only has about 10-12 million.
Bet Dalembert is headed their way.
Triple crap
Says one Western Conference executive: “The Lakers are shifting toward trying to make a Dwight Howard deal.”
Me thinks the Nyets got a head start there.
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HA!
What happened this time?
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too bad lakers fans
Lakers and Hornets won’t pursue a direct deal for Chris Paul either, source says. “L.A. can’t give them what they need,” source says.
got a link we can read ty?
the espn one is short and doesn’t include most of that.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 10:12 PM MST up reply actions
has anyone else listened to howard talk on the nba.com site?
he keeps going on and on about how wrong it is for people to be mad at him and how if fans don’t love him for changing uniforms they never did love him.
that is precisely the problem with the prima donnas in the league today. they take all of the “love” they get from fans cheering on their team and by proxy each player, and then expect the same fans to be happy for them when he abandons them.
guess what? if you break up with me i despise you now, cause i am a fan (look up fanatic) of my team and my city, which is no longer good enough for you despite making you filthy rich.
you are right. i never did love you so get over yourself. next time you hear people cheering for you, realize that it is themselves they are cheering for and not your ego.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 9:58 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
i know, i just never got the chance to say it to melo hehe. and never will.
yet another luxury dwight has that i don’t.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 10:04 PM MST up reply actions
The new generation of basketball superstars
Believe that everyone roots for the name on the back of the jersey less so with the one on the front. Who they play for determines exposure…instead of how they play doing that.
How a person acts and how they perform determine their exposure. Not if they do it in NY or Memphis. Sport is to nationalized, you show up on TNT and people will remember you.
Seems like misperception out there. But it maybe the new era in basketball.
heheh someone plz gimme a link.
i gotta read tht, but i’ve never done twitter. don’t want to start now.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 10:23 PM MST up reply actions
ok i got it.
it just wasn’t showing up cause i have a crap computer and every nba site known to man opened in a tab hehe.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 10:25 PM MST up reply actions
It's really okay. You don't have to tweet, You can just follow.
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More stickyball for NY
Alex Kennedy: The New York Knicks have emerged as a surprising suitor for Jamal Crawford.
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with 2.5 million?
not bloody likely.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 10:29 PM MST up reply actions
The mavs are getting lamar odom practically for free
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Sources say Lakers will receive unspecified draft considerations from Dallas for the rights to Odom, who slots in Mavs’ new trade exception
Oh shit! Not Dallas!
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can anyone explain what this means?
What does this mean? Can someone explain in simple terms?
John Hollinger on Mbah a Moute offer:
One interesting note here is that the Nuggets signed Mbah a Moute to an offer sheet using its midlevel exception, even though they could end up well under the cap if Nene leaves. The wrinkle is that the MLE will count as a charge against Denver’s cap room should they wind up in that situation, taking about $5 million off their available space. It’s probably not an issue — Denver also has large cap holds for Arron Afflalo and Wilson Chandler and might prefer to sign-and-trade Nene and get a large trade exception anyway — but it warrants mentioning.
it means...they've got something big pulled up behind their sleeves?
CP3 and Howard! Jk no idea why they did that
Who knows, Ujiri’s like batman, always in the shadows.
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yea
who the heck do we sign to get to the minimum? Travis Outlaw? FML
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Just means
That we didn’t drop the cap holds and used the MLE in place of our near 24 million in cap space. If we were to go over the cap our MLE is gone.
what are the practical implications of this?
what does this say about the FO’s strategy?
I’m still not sure i follow…
You just gotta love Nets Daily.
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Ledger_Nets Colin Stephenson
OK, so CP3 deal is dead, which means Lakers have all those assets available to ship to Orlando for Dwight Howard. Your move, Nets.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Knicks-offered-Amar-e-Stoudemire-to-Hornets-;_ylt=Ao1Zks4Q7z96T9uHvXiCyoW8vLYF?urn=nba-wp143
why anyone would ever play for n.y., the way they treat their “stars” is beyond me.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 10:39 PM MST reply actions
Time out.
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Any exception created by dealing Odom isn’t big enough to take in Turkoglu. I’m not seeing LA’s endgame here, nor why Dallas would help.
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that's what i said they just gave away odom for FREE
and mavs jumped right in FTW. Tylawsome is pissed off, for basketball reasons…
Seriously... Like everything is back to square one on the big deals
Except I’d guess Nets will want to stay with Nene
Nene should realize that there’s a large chance Dwill will bolt next year if Dwight is gone (Dallas?)
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Which Nene or his agent should know, probably leading him back to mile high.
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I don't buy into those that dismiss DWill as wanting to stay
I think he may choose to stay. There future is looking up IMO.
He’ll be in the same boat as he was in Utah only that the east it’s very easy to make it to the playoffs.
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ya...
Sources close to the situation tell ESPN that Clippers have emerged as “early frontrunner” to acquire CP3 now that Lakers out of running
can you tell me the best reporters on twitter to check? i got wojo, hillinger and manix.
anyone else?
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 11:04 PM MST up reply actions
a few others
berger, zachlowe, marc stein, david aldridge
Then we’d have three 5’s and no 4.
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And then?
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KOUF!!
AND THENNN
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
by CloudBurst on Dec 10, 2011 11:48 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
BAhahahah!!!! ROFL
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this is scary
i wish Paul had gone to lakers instead.
flynn is a mchale draft pick though
i doubt he’d want to give up on him.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 11:20 PM MST up reply actions
i'd be all for that trade...
if not for the nene to rockets implications. why nene would want to go to a rebuilding team with literally just gasol though is beyond me.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 PM MST up reply actions
borrowed the nuggets to do this since mavs don;t have exception yet
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8y8emgb
lakers are worse losing their 3 bigs and adding howard
One thing seems real clear
Nene’s got two offers from which to choose. What’s it going to be Big Guy?
One year with DWill or Playing 4 finally.
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Nets Daily seem to believe he’ll be gone.
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A little?
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What's happening
Nothing doing
Taking our cap space to our grave!
yes, the desperate would
Odom is a great player with a desireable contract. Lakers would never gift him to the team that swept them from the playoffs? Right?
Golly it's past midnight back east. And not one Nuggets deal!
Booo! Boo!!!
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I can tell you one big NBA news that no one here knows..
pssh, closer..
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/leans in
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Okay, I can't hold it in
In case all of you didn’t know, the former Nugget player Shelden Williams, is now on the New Jersey Nets.
Pretty awesome huh? Great consolation prize if they don’t get D12, don’t ya think?
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
Here's an extra
Knicks are getting the Legend of Mike Bibby.
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Well, that is all that is left of Mike Bibby
Weren’t you the one who said the Heat would be dangerous once they got him last year?
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I am not viable to myself when I say something that’s completely wrong.
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Consider my breath baited
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 11, 2011 12:17 AM MST up reply actions
/Hangin on your every word…
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by InboundingLobPass on Dec 11, 2011 12:24 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
still not over LA gift wrapping and stamping "merry christmas" on Odom's Ass
ans shipping him to Dallas! Come on Masai!
Again can they afford Nene if they land Howard.
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who knows?
the man is many times richer than most owners.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 11, 2011 12:30 AM MST up reply actions
There’s a cap.
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there's a SOFT cap
i’m saying he’ll be willing to pay the luxury tax.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 11, 2011 12:39 AM MST up reply actions
it's not me saying that because i want nene back
that statement comes from my desire to shove it in the lakers faces
god i hope so.
that would royaly screw them. their strength was their three near 7’ players.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 11, 2011 12:29 AM MST up reply actions
theres surely some back channel talk going
I saw the Dwight on the tonight show and he was doing impressions and stuff so I’m sure he wants to be in hollywood…
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 11, 2011 12:31 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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nite all
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zombies are so fucking stupid
so sick of zombies and vampires.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 11, 2011 12:42 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Look how wrong you are :)
Alexander Skarsgaard proves how wrong you are :)
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Oh and you are soooo not on
the ZA survival team.
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Rule 32
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This is totally me right now lol
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Here's another vote of confidence for Ujiri and Kroenke
I like how they don’t leak nonsense—or anything else—to the media. They’re just doing their job, and I’d bet a hundred bucks they’re doing it extremely well.
Sleep well, Stiffs.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 11, 2011 12:34 AM MST reply actions
I love Nene's grin
best part of that gif, for sure.
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by CloudBurst on Dec 11, 2011 12:37 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That is an awesome grin
Lets resign that guy
May has well acquire Luke Walton also
Since he is in the gif
Holy crap
Luke shot Pau in the back w his finger gun!
Ahh
Luke: Sorry Pau, but this is the only way I’ll get playing time
Pau: NOOOOOOOOO!
Nene: Whisper you mad? You mad Pau?
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
Thank you for the title.
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I meant that I can hide obscenely large pictures and not let the thread lag.
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I think we should go for Boozer
if we can’t resign Nene, what do you think?
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He’s got the potty mouth. Basically K-Mart without Teh Crazies.
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Was goin for the football head slap
He just missed
Is that what you kids are calling these days?
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hehe
kinda scary if you watch it about 70 times in a row. then i assume about anything would be. like this site for instance.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 11, 2011 12:41 AM MST up reply actions
of course not. they were up getting high in nederland
for basketball reasons.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Dec 11, 2011 12:44 AM MST up reply actions
What are they doing again?
I’m not in media. They can tell me
Melo's take on Billups
“Just the goals we had this season, the fun we were going to bring back to the team, bring back to the city this season. It’s a sad situation, for me, coming from a friend of Chauncey’s.”
“We got what everybody wants New York to get, which is a big man,” Anthony said. “Tyson has established himself as a dominant force on the defensive end. He showed that on the biggest stage in sports last year in the championships.”
“We’re good. We’re good,” Anthony said. “We just have to prove that. On paper, we have one of the top front courts in the NBA. But until we actually get that going, get Tyson here, communicating, talking, practicing, we shall see.”
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
Notice he doesn’t say Defense on the third block.
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Dam it Masai! Were you not paying attention?
Lakers had offered Lamar Odom to teams with salary cap space, one GM says. “He wanted out and they really wanted to reduce the tax bill.”
ewwwwww
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x
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ffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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heh.
MarkKriegel Mark Kriegel
David Stern couldn’t be screwing the Hornets any worse if he gave the GM job to Isiah Thomas
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Pick your Poison
Kahn or Isiah.
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Surely Demps will resign
Stern’s performance has been so vile. How could he undermine his own employee this way? Yeah, he’s undermined ALL his employees with the lockout and the unwillingness to negotiate in good faith. He needs to go, but it will be Demps instead. Too bad.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 11, 2011 1:09 AM MST up reply actions
SDcats new shirt!
http://derailedink.com/john-elway-wears-tim-tebow-pajamas-t-shirt.html
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I would so punch you in the face right now....lol
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BOOOOO!!!!
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Too many laker GIFs.....
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by Kevin L on Dec 11, 2011 1:07 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
well played
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Wow, what a great moment that was
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 11, 2011 1:10 AM MST up reply actions
well we're kinda seeing the calm before the storm
But I’m not sure whats coming…
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 11, 2011 1:09 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Who knows when it’s Ujiri, he’s in his batcave right now plotting for his next troll.
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Okay I'm too sleepy now...
Nite Stiffs
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Nene is Jersey Bound
Latest report has NJ offering Nene 80 million over 4 years. 20 million a year for Nene?? Glad to see the new CBA is having an effect on big markets stealing mid-market players with over-inflated contracts. Nuggets need to go into full-blown sign and trade mode with Nene’s team. With this soft a free agent market class, particularly for big men, it is no wonder Nene opted not to sign the 50 million dollar extension last summer. That looks like it may be a 30 million dollar decision for the Big Brazilian and his team.
BTW, I have no doubt that NJ has hard feelings against Denver and the way they were used as pawns in the Melo Drama. They LOVE that they are hurting Denver by signing Nene – -win-win in the rich Russian’s mind…Hurt Denver and Get Better.
Then let's go for Pau Gasol...
Lakers trying to move his salary, and we got a nice TPE we can send them back.
Pau and Mozgov will anchor our Euro frontcourt!
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let him go for that amount
i’d rather have Speights anyways if Nene is gonna ask for that much
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 11, 2011 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
How do you account for this statement early in thread
Nets expect decision on Nene today. Offered 4 years and $64 million (most they are allowed to offer).
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2011 11:41 AM PST
Lol, WAAAAY too much.
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So it doesn’t really hurt us if we can find another 4.
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New Jersey can't offer that much. Highest is 4 year and $64 million.
Bad info here.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 11, 2011 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
Hmm dunno about this one...
According to sources, the Philadelphia 76ers and Denver Nuggets have had advanced discussions about a trade that would send center Marreese Speights from Philly to Denver for a future second-round pick. However, the trade has not been completed and may not occur, depending on whether the Nuggets are able to retain their free agent center Nene. NBA.com
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 11, 2011 10:48 AM MST reply actions
good
Speights has great upside and can score a bit for a PF… just was alway cought in the PF logjam in Philly including Brand, Thad and him so with some room to grow and develope I like Speights a lot more for a PF spot than Thad.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 11, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
The Denver Nuggets and the Philadelphia 76ers are involved in trade discussions for center Marreese Speights, according to NBA.com’s David Aldridge. The deal reportedly would send a future second-round draft pick to the 76ers; however, this deal appears to be contingent on free agent forward/center Nene spurning the Nuggets and that all other options are explored.
Speights, 6 foot 10 and 245 pounds, was the the 16th overall pick in the 2008 NBA Draft by the 76ers. He’s been a bench player for his entire three-year career, making just four start in 205 career starts. He’s averaged 7.2 points and 3.7 rebounds in his career.
The Nuggets will surely want to explore more options than Speights, but a second-round pick is not too much to give up for this center.
helll no its not
Denver is usually pretty good about finding dubs on one roster and turning them into gems on ours. Like i said Philly had a logjam at PF and C in PHily. Speights has potential… I like the move if all else fails. and at leats we are finally hearing something.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 11, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
Wondering why they can't get more for him...
But then “extra” bodies, even with potential, are a luxury many teams don’t want or can afford.
I also like the deal if it’s this cheap to give him some run.
yep me too
and the fact that he isn’t demanding more in return is because he simply hasn’t played much in the show. WIth starting minutes at PF i think Speights could prob average 14 and 7.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 11, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
same as AAA?
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 11, 2011 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
When I first heard we were chasing Young
I though he was Speights. I remember when Speights lit the Nuggets up. He has a great 15 footer if I remember correctly.
He reminds me of David West, but it seems like he is solid.
I still think we should go after Pau Gasol, I would not mind a euro front court.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
i would absolutely hate that
and LA isn’t trading Pau unless they get Dwight or Paul back… i promise you this.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 11, 2011 11:58 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
From Liberty Ballers
it’s been clear since Doug Collins came in that the two didn’t like each other. Mo Speezy took to Twitter to complain about not getting minutes, Doug Collins took to his corn-cob pipe to complain about young kids on his lawn. Mo is definitely a talent, but it’s obvious that this is Doug’s team and it was only a matter of time before Speights was nudged out for his lackadaisical play and me-first mentality.
Finally, a move and we can move him to 4.
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not a move yet, contingent on Nene not returning
since we haven’t pulled the trigger, I guess we’re still talking with him, or he’s waiting for something.
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The only truly new noteworthy news (sort of)
Is that Chicago is “preparing” an offer for D Howard. They are capable of making a very
attractive offer, though it was noted that without the same kind of love from Dwight like the Nets et al about extending they would balk at including Noah.
hmm
that would be an interesting team… not many shooters tho.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 11, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
I don't get what's wrong with the bulls
It’s not like chiago is a small market, and they have the MVP over there, and a top notch coach
I would love to live in Chicago
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 11, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
Bring a kite.
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Don't mind the wind
love the city of Chicago
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 11, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
don't know what they have left to offer or how to get the space take his salary
#Knicks working on another 3-team sign-n-trade with ATL for Jamal Crawford, source tells Newsday. Confirms @NYPost_Berman report. #fb
Who cares
Ball Stoppers FTW
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