Golden Nuggets: I've got your "game changer" right here
So, apparently Mark Cuban proposed a new system that union executive director Billy Hunter titled as Game Changer last week. Or did the NBPA propose it? We try to sort it out in this morning's Golden Nuggets.
According to Billy Hunter, during his interview with Bill Simmons on the B.S. Report podcast, Mark Cuban went outside the box and proposed a system called Game Changer. This "plan" (as speculated by Hunter) would essentially eliminate the salary cap as we know it. Replacing it with a very high threshold for a luxury tax - for example, setting the luxury tax at $75 million. Then having teams over the luxury tax pay an extreme penalty - like $3 for every $1 over. The new plan would also have a minimum spending floor and teams would have the ability to spend big for superstar players - essentially the Major League Baseball (MLB) pay structure.
This plan was rejected (however, Hunter said there were several owners who were on board). Then the following day the NBA owners claimed that it was the union that proposed the deal, not Cuban. So the finger pointing and bad feelings continue.
I'm aware that 99.9% of my fellow Stiffs here would reject that sort uncapped idea. I'm not going to put any sort of sway on my thoughts here. I happen to think hard caps only work for competitive balance when rosters are large and players are plentiful (per the NFL.) Or, it could work if there's a legitimate and fully funded minor league system to develop players (per the NHL & MLB). Talent is spread so thin in the NBA that you need smart drafting and key trades to succeed. That will continue regardless of any cap.
With all that being said, I'm not a big fan of the MLB system because their revenue sharing plan is TOO robust and quite frankly there's some unscrupulous teams that just take the revenue share and sit on it ... making money regardless. If it was Cuban who proposed the plan, then I think he must have been thinking some franchises will both get a hard cap AND sit on revenue sharing money. Yet, we can only guess at this point.
Put your thoughts below. The plan was rejected so I guess it's a moot point, but it does show that there are at least some people involved in these talks that are trying to think outside the NBA norm. Kudos to them (whether it be Cuban or someone in the union.)
Your morning links are below!
B.S. Report: Billy Hunter interview - Bill Simmons, Grantland
Here is the hour long interview Bill Simmons did with Billy Hunter on Monday. There's interesting tid bits sprinkled all over. Obviously Hunter is a politician and is deliberately spinning but it is still a very interesting interview.
NBA says union, not Cuban proposed elimination of salary cap - Washington Post (via AP)
And the merry go round continues. The NBA claims that it was the union, not Cuban who proposed the elimination of the salary cap. Like I said above, either way it was refreshing to hear an outside the box idea.
Karl biding his time while waiting for NBA to unlock it's doors - Woody Paige, Denver Post
Short interview with George Karl by Woody Paige. Short because Karl can't say anything about the players or otherwise he will be fined (which is silly beyond belief when you think about it)
Owners and players to meet in small groups today, game cancellations on hold - Mitch Lawrence, NY Daily News
In the "wheels on the bus go round and round" portion of the show, the NBA players and owners schedule another meeting. This time with small groups. Oh boy. I flatly refuse to get excited about this. It's like Groundhog Day.
Now - one of my favorite songs of all time
tears for fears -head over heels (via Gallard0o)
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Interesting article from True Hoop
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/32841/the-payroll-and-competitive-balance-myth
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by Jeffrey Morton on Oct 26, 2011 12:41 PM MDT reply actions
MLB Plan Works Okay
Look at the final 4 this year. The power teams always have a shot because they spend, but so do the other teams.
BUT, look at the MLB TV ratings…I’m sure Stern is paying attn to them and doesn’t necessarily want that type of parity. Catch 22…Stern wants to make the league competitive, but he also wants Lakers v. Celtics/Knicks/Heat every year.
Which is worse
the lockout or last year’s Melo-Drama?
It would help if there wasn’t a Melo ad on here every single time I’m here. I don’t care if he is “powering through the hudson”, I’m never buying a pair of his shoes.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Oct 26, 2011 4:12 PM MDT reply actions
I still have mine, they’re still comfortable as hell.
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Agreed, but they're absurdly heavy.
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by love4nuggets on Oct 26, 2011 7:08 PM MDT up reply actions
It actually helped with my leg strength because of it.
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
Can I add Al "I can has a cheezburger" Harrington, to the Stiff List?

Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
We Chinese fans have taught JR some ways to use twitter and Youtube in China.
Here’s an interesting article.
NBA Player J.R. Smith Not a Fan of Chinese Net Censorhip
NO.1 NUGGETS FAN IN CHINA
http://twitter.com/#!/Albafica_DN
JR...
Better be careful. Too much more criticism of the govt and he might just “disappear”… You don’t mess with Chinese oppression JR!
by NotPinkFloyd on Oct 26, 2011 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey guys, we all may have our thoughts on different countries and what not, but let’s try to remember this is a basketball blog and also that comments are made in a lighthearted manner.
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by Nate Timmons on Oct 27, 2011 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't mean to offend
But the last time I checked, China has a very oppressive government and that isn’t really a debatable point. But again it was a off hand remark that, in retrospect, wasn’t in the best taste and I apologize
by NotPinkFloyd on Oct 29, 2011 11:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Hate the game changer plan
So what if NY and LA could go after any superstar player as long as they were willing to pay? How would any of the lower tier teams would be able to outbid these teams? The MLB system won’t work as their aren’t as many layers to basketball and by far not a true farm system.
I am eager to hear what changes we will have. But something that I’m fearful of is that with these changes we might be forced to overpay someone in free agency to meet min salary cap guidelines. If that min increases as well this off-season could force us to overpay a Kris Humphries and a Jamal Crawford type of player.
According to David Aldrige the League is looking at a high minimum
to reflect the changes in the system to get all teams in line with spending. Something along the lines of you can go below the cap minimum if you exceed the cap floor the next three seasons. A raise in the cap floor is inevitable because the players are afraid of teams “pocketing the difference” one the lower BRI is announced.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Oct 27, 2011 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Hope that is the case
If there was value in the market, I would be all for spending our cap space. But if Nene goes elsewhere it’s a lot of bench fodder out there. Gasol seems like an overpay canidate but also is still an RFA as well.
Has there been much broached as far as what compromises are being outlined towards future cap structure? Just seeing if I missed any articles.
I’m aware that 99.9% of my fellow Stiffs here would reject that sort uncapped idea. I’m not going to put any sort of sway on my thoughts here. I happen to think hard caps only work for competitive balance when rosters are large and players are plentiful (per the NFL.) Or, it could work if there’s a legitimate and fully funded minor league system to develop players (per the NHL & MLB). Talent is spread so thin in the NBA that you need smart drafting and key trades to succeed. That will continue regardless of any cap.
With all that being said, I’m not a big fan of the MLB system because their revenue sharing plan is TOO robust and quite frankly there’s some unscrupulous teams that just take the revenue share and sit on it … making money regardless. If it was Cuban who proposed the plan, then I think he must have been thinking some franchises will both get a hard cap AND sit on revenue sharing money. Yet, we can only guess at this point.
This quote is the exact reasoning why fans have a better pulse on this than the owners and the players to a large degree. Fans are the realists in this deal, and the owners/players are really the idiots on the sideline expecting to stamp their feet and get their way. I really wish I was writing this in anticipation of a deal instead of a false start.
Enjoy it as always JM.
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by pookeyguru on Oct 28, 2011 9:00 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Thank you very much!
Very much appreciated and I agree wholeheartedly that, at times, it seems like we know better than the fools who run the business and play in the business.
Overheard during Nuggets radio broadcasts in the 80's: "....Hanzlik.....HEY HANZLIK...don't ever dribble the ball again or I'll bench your ass!" Doug Moe
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Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/jmorton78
by Jeffrey Morton on Oct 29, 2011 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions

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