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Thunder vs. Nuggets recap: "80s Night" in name only...

Just like there was nothing 70s about "70s Night" when the Magic came to town last month, there was nothing 80s about "80s Night" when the Thunder played our Nuggets on Wednesday night...except, of course, the final score.

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For a true basketball fan, attending a Nuggets game at Pepsi Center can be a very frustrating experience. The Nuggets Wednesday night matchup against the division rival Oklahoma City Thunder was promoted as "80s Night," but simply naming a night "80s Night" does not an 80s Night make.

Sure, the cheerleaders and "Big Mark" Randall wore 80s costumes, but other than that there was nothing "80s" about the experience. First off, you can't have an 80s Night when your opponent had nothing to do with the 80s. Yes, the Thunder were the Seattle Supersonics back then, but I doubt Thunder owner Clay Bennett will allow his team to be wearing those retro jerseys anytime soon. Second, you can't have an 80s Night without the Nuggets wearing their old rainbow uniforms. That point isn't up for debate. Third, all the music played in the stadium should be from the 80s and yet the Pepsi Center speakers were blaring more contemporary hits than 80s hits. Fourth, throughout the game the scoreboard should have shown highlights from the Nuggets Golden Era of the 1980s - you know, Doug Moe, Alex English, Fat Lever, Bill Hanzlik, and so forth. Guess how many 80s highlights were played on Wednesday night? I'll give you a hint...zero. And finally, you can't have an 80s Night without rolling back the cost of tickets, beer and food to 80s prices.

So once again, the Nuggets have proved that they're short-sighted when it comes to in-game presentation and treating their ticket-paying fans to something special during an otherwise tortuous season. (Conversely, the Nuggets did a great job treating their fans to something special during Tuesday night's "Big Night at Big Game".)

Now I know what many of you are thinking: so, what? Why make a such a fuss over the Nuggets in-game presentation??

I'm making a fuss because pretty soon the Nuggets will trade Carmelo Anthony and they'll have their memorable history and only their memorable history to hang their hat on. Once Melo is out of Denver, the fair-weather fans will go with him, leaving only the true basketball fans in their wake. And if the Nuggets don't present their games properly with respect for the game's history and artistry, they risk losing the fans who don't care who's wearing the jerseys knowing that the game and the team will forever be bigger than any one high maintenance player.

Despite the Nuggets botching "80s Night", I couldn't help but reminisce about those good 'ol days that turned me into a Nuggets and an NBA fan for life. You know, the days when a star player actually stayed with one team for most of his career. The days when the on-court drama was much more intriguing that the off-the-court drama. The days when the game was about the game.

In many ways, the Thunder represent what can still be great about the NBA, while the Nuggets represent what's so wrong about the current state of my favorite professional sport. The Thunder have astutely (and with some great luck, admittedly) built a young, deep team of high character guys who are on the verge of dominating the Western Conference for years to come. The Nuggets, conversely, are being torn asunder by a selfish, modern day sports superstar.

Carmelo Anthony probably isn't a bad guy per se, but his unwillingness to sign an extension with our franchise combined with his (alleged) refusal to be traded anywhere except to the New York Knicks makes him a bad guy at this moment. At least LeBron James got his "decision" over with in eight days. Melo has been dragging the entire NBA, the Nuggets organization and the fan base on an emotionally distracting roller coaster ride for months.

To the credit of Melo himself and the Nuggets' coaches and players, they've been able to navigate a reasonably decent season in spite of all this nonsense surrounding the team. They still have their distracted nights, like we saw recently against the Clippers, Kings, Hornets and Spurs. And yet they're still capable of beating any of the NBA's best teams, as we saw Wednesday night against the Thunder and I suspect we'll see again Friday against the Lakers.

Against the Thunder, the Nuggets won in a very un-Nugget-like way: they did it with stingy defense in the fourth quarter, holding the Thunder to just 21 fourth quarter points. And while they were at it on the defensive end of the floor, Carmelo Anthony reminded the basketball world why he's worth some (but certainly not all) of the attention being bestowed upon. I still maintain that you won't win a championship if Melo is your best player, but that doesn't mean he can't win a lot of games for you by simply out-scoring the opposition by himself. On Wednesday night, Melo erupted through three quarters en route to 32 points before the fourth quarter began. And like a great closer brought in to finish a baseball game after a masterful performance by the starting pitcher, the Nuggets diminutive but crafty Ty Lawson finished off the Thunder in the fourth.

If this were the 1980s, Nuggets fans would be debating about how far this team can go in the postseason and whether or not they can take down their division rivals and then the Lakers in the playoffs. But this being the 2010s, Nuggets fans are spending all their time wondering aloud about where Carmelo Anthony will end up and the what the team will look like in the trade's aftermath.

And I have to believe that even if the Nuggets had put on a proper "80s Night," the Melodrama would have dampened the mood anyway.

The View From the Not-So-Cheap-Seats...

...when his name was announced, Carmelo Anthony received mostly cheers from the crowd. Of course, there was hardly anybody in the building thanks to the crappy weather and dicey roads.

...I spent the entire game talking to my seat-mate about the Melo trade getting nixed Wednesday and then spent every quarter and halftime break talking to other fans about the Melo trade. Point being, no one cares about the games anymore and only wants to talk about the trade. Thanks, Melo.

...early in the game, you just knew Melo was going to have a big night. Whenever his effort is questioned, he seems to respond with big nights.

...Kenyon Martin may have had his best game of the season. And dare I say it, but the Nuggets should consider re-signing K-Mart to mentor the youngsters coming in after Melo gets traded.

...with the game all but over, Rocky tried to shoot his behind-the-back half-court shot but the Thunder's Russell Westbrook whacked the ball out of his hands. The fans booed Westbrook immediately as Rocky stood there exasperated. Then J.R. Smith went up to Rocky and yelled "I've got you, dog!" inferring that we would exact revenge on Westbrook for messing with Rocky. You had to love J.R. there.

...named the player of the game, Melo was interviewed by Altitude's Maya Starks after the game was over. Each time Melo tried to speak, the remaining Pepsi Center fans tried to out-do each other with cheers and boos. If the boos got louder, so would the cheers and vice versa. Eventually, the boos drowned out the cheers. Melo wasn't noticeably booed throughout the game, and yet the fans unleashed their boos on him at game's end. Very interesting.

Non-Stiff of the Night

-Carmelo Anthony: 32 points through three quarters and 14 free throw attempts. Meanwhile, Melo's opposing small forward Kevin Durant had an off night with 6-18 shooting.

Stiff of the Night

-Scott Brooks: The reigning Coach of the Year and former Nuggets assistant coach allowed a substantial second-half lead to become a second-half deficit too quickly by not calling a timeout to stop the Nuggets run and attempts to cool down Melo. Brooks should have known better than anyone what a mess the Nuggets are in and capitalized on it...but he couldn't.

Parting Shot

The Nuggets won't play the Thunder again until April, which begs the obvious question: did we just see the final game between Durant and Melo as a Nugget?

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really good win, one of the best for the seaosn!

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by stan_26 on Jan 20, 2011 12:06 AM MST reply actions  

*Season

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by stan_26 on Jan 20, 2011 12:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Since we are finding out that Melo agreed to the meeting

maybe that changes everyone’s point of view?

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by Jeffrey Morton on Jan 20, 2011 12:08 AM MST reply actions  

I always thought Melo would not sign there and I still do but I think the Nets just got tired of us asking for the moon.

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I may be wrong but I doubt it!!

by VicTor W on Jan 20, 2011 12:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Stop complaining

I wanna shoot myself when I read your recaps. All you do is complain enjoy the damn victory. Melo played good and so did the rest of the team. Enjoy the victory.

Plus your are wrong Melo agreed to the meeting and nuggets got Cold Feet Do some research.

by devv83 on Jan 20, 2011 12:10 AM MST reply actions  

Just because Melo agreed...

…didn’t mean he’d ever sign there. Melo being adamant about not wanting to be a Net left Prokhorov with no choice but to call this off. Prokhorov couldn’t afford to get embarrassed.

Back to the drawing board.

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by Andrew Feinstein on Jan 20, 2011 12:25 AM MST up reply actions  

If you think you can’t win a championship with Melo then why are you mad he is leaving. Why?

Meloooooo!!!
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by VicTor W on Jan 20, 2011 12:14 AM MST reply actions  

I'm not mad that he's leaving...

I’m mad at how he’s leaving. The Nuggets organization and fans deserve a straight answer about exactly where Melo wants to go.

That said, if read my Melo/Paul Pierce comparison a while back, I believe you can win it all with Melo when he’s one of three options. But when he’s the only option no, we’re not winning anything – hence why the Nuggets have won just two playoff series since Melo’s arrival.

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by Andrew Feinstein on Jan 20, 2011 12:17 AM MST up reply actions  

unless kenyon

can “mentor” kids on how to be insanely athletic, I’m not entirely sure what value he’d bring to the next generation…but whatever. Man I miss caring about the score at the end of the game.

by Teekalong on Jan 20, 2011 12:23 AM MST reply actions  

Me too!!

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by Andrew Feinstein on Jan 20, 2011 12:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Well

No matter what else is going on, I’m happy when the Nugs win. So yay.

This most bizarre of all Nuggets seasons (that I can remember, anyway) is now half over. Nugs are on pace to finish 48-34, if that matters at all.

by ParkHillNative on Jan 20, 2011 12:33 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

First thing you should do in this sbnation

Admit that your ‘sources’ were bunch of bullshits

by Leo423 on Jan 20, 2011 12:36 AM MST reply actions  

and i recommend

if you are not friend with masai and kronke

dont use the word ‘sources’

by Leo423 on Jan 20, 2011 12:42 AM MST up reply actions  

All I have to saw is

Everyone called Lebron out when he had his decision and everyone said Melo should never speak out. He hasn’t, he has the right to play wherever he wants. If he plans on taking off this summer to play for the Knicks, I think he did the right thing in telling the Nuggets that was the only place he would sign and trade.

Cry baby Nugget fans get over it

More fireGK.com Andrew and less of this social media andrew please.

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by RPN on Jan 20, 2011 12:36 AM MST reply actions  

People don't understand

him telling us his plans only helps us. If we can’t keep him then at least we can get some ‘value’

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by RPN on Jan 20, 2011 12:37 AM MST up reply actions  

stupid front office

are you fuckin serious…for the trade you should blame the stupid front office for doing 5 months to think if they give him to nets…now we will take shit from other teams!

by Chris Kak on Jan 20, 2011 3:17 AM MST reply actions  

80's night done incorrecly

Andrew, I’d tend to agree with you about there not being enough emphasis put on Nuggets history in the form of video clips and such. It’s a shame you weren’t recently speaking to Josh K and Masai face to face to address this issue……..

by InboundingLobPass on Jan 20, 2011 4:08 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

I have addressed this issue...

…face to face with both of them and they’re very receptive. But a party isn’t the best place to have a serious conversation about in-game presentation. More talks will be had!

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by Andrew Feinstein on Jan 20, 2011 7:24 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

The Kroenke's Will Need a New Public Relations Team Once Melo is Gone

Once Melo is gone, the Kroenke’s are going to have to rebuild the fan base. The tickets are going to have to be cheaper, and there will need to be more thought and resources put into the game experience. Go watch a game in OKC and see how it is done.

by ACEIII on Jan 20, 2011 6:06 AM MST reply actions  

Time to Admit, Melo's Departure is Worse Than Lebron's

At least LeBron won a ton games in his year in Cleveland, and the city was talking basketball, not free agency, for the most part. This Melodrama has killed what could have been a truly feel-good season. Karl back from cancer. Kmart back from injury. AAA and Ty taking their games to another level. Nuggets competing for a WCF spot. As a die-hard Nuggets fan, I am just tired of this shit and want it over. Trade Melo for Eddie Curry, straight-up, I don’t care anymore. Let’s just get this over with and move on. I want to get back to enjoying basketball again, even if we have to go through a rebuild with Ty, AAA, Nene and Forbes.

by ACEIII on Jan 20, 2011 6:12 AM MST reply actions  

You won't have to go through that

At worst it’s Fat Eddy plus Fields and Gallinari and one 1st rounder.

Could also be Deng, Gibson, Asik and one 1st rounder.

The rebuild will be partial and presided over by Chauncey. The universe will come back into balance.

by slader on Jan 20, 2011 6:31 AM MST up reply actions  

That's silly

We can get much more from the Knicks. Wil Chandler anyone? That said, after what melo has put us through, we should NOT let him get his money this year. Let’s ride out the season just to be asses.

by Monkfish on Jan 20, 2011 6:41 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

You may be right

but Chandler is a FA at end of next season unless we throw big dough at him. Might turn out to be a longish rental.

But if Doniie Walsh coughed up Chandler, Fields, Fat Eddy and a pick or two, I’d go for it.
In this trade the Knicks would take back Big Al as well, and give us expiring Mason and Azubuike (not sure they’d do it):
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4kmlfqk

Riding out the season would be self-destructive, if satisfying.

by slader on Jan 20, 2011 7:25 AM MST reply actions  

Restricted Free Agent

Somebody will offer him good money.

Trade Melo to Toronto and Start JR!!!!!
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by Army of Nugs on Jan 20, 2011 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe I'm the only one that's gonna actually talk about the game

It was good to see Melo take the NBA’s goldne boy Durant to the woodshed last night

But who in the hell was guarding WestBrook they did a horrible job

by devv83 on Jan 20, 2011 8:01 AM MST reply actions  

Tell us all about those defenders who do a great job on Westbrook

They don’t exist. Plus, he’s got quite a few teammates hanging around to burn you.

by LongWindedHank on Jan 20, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

You have to admit

it was a very 80’s half time show Andrew!

by DannyG23 on Jan 20, 2011 8:30 AM MST reply actions  

Next "Stiffs Night Out"?

Maybe we can all have a “Stiffs Night Out” party the weekend after Melo is traded. I for one know that I would love to sit down with my fellow Stiffs and talk about the New Nuggets going forward and mull over our assets. We – well, the rational people, anyway – know that this season is lost already and that the Nuggets are more than likely heading for the lottery at best and an early-round playoff exit at worst.

For all the clamor about Melo, how good is it that we have Ty, Arron Afflalo and Gary Forbes? Ty Lawson showed last night why he’s one of the most dynamic guards in the league and that he’s getting closer to a starter’s role. I hope the Nuggets recognize his talent – and Afflalo’s – and lock both of them up for a long time to come.

Swats.

by Colin Neilson on Jan 20, 2011 9:44 AM MST reply actions  

Already working on it...

We’re going to have a “Carmelo Anthony Going Away Party” as soon as he’s traded.

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by Andrew Feinstein on Jan 20, 2011 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Excellent...

As a general question, is it usually the goal to have these get-togethers in downtown D-Town? I ask only because I’m on the north side of town (Broomfield/Superior) and while I do love the area(s) around the Pepsi Center and the 16th Street Mall, there’s certainly gotta be some other places we could crash on the North side of town.

Regardless, that sounds like one going away party that all Nugs fans need to attend.

Swats.

by Colin Neilson on Jan 20, 2011 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Just make sure

it’s a place with an outdoor patio where you can have a bonfire of Melo jerseys.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 20, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

And what will you do if he re-signs?

For all this talk about him being traded, he has asked the FO to get him help and he would consider staying. Of course that is overlooked. With the thousands of “Let’s trade Melo” options, why can’t anybody ever find a “Let’s trade to make Melo stay” option? Getting a half decent Center or PF could do so much good for us. But instead of looking at those options, we have made ourselves get into this mood that he will not sign and he is going to burn us, when we need to send as message to the front office telling them to find Melo help. Why don’t we try to get someone, even Elton Brand or Tyrus Thomas. Decent PF/C that could allow Nene to play the PF position a bit more.

This negativity towards a player who wanted an extension a couple years back and we thought to trade him is not warranted in my mind. For once, one of these days, with Melo still on the team, I would love to see a game preview and recap without negativity towards our best player and without saying how it is going to be his last game. Can we please try to do that once?

Trade Melo to Toronto and Start JR!!!!!
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by Army of Nugs on Jan 20, 2011 5:47 PM MST up reply actions  

the best and quickest way to get melo help would be for melo to

play defense, rebound, quit snitching to the referees and hustle. he wants a max contract but has NEVER GIVEN MAX EFFORT AT BOTH ENDS OF THE COURT. blake griffin will have more double doubles in his 1st year playing in the nba than melo has had for his entire 8 year nba career.

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by nohoops4u on Jan 21, 2011 10:22 PM MST up reply actions  

JR JR JR JR JR

Lost in all the Melo Madness is the latest incarnation of JR Smith as a settle-‘em-down, pass-first offensive presence — and a damn fine passer he is — and a hard-working defender. He’s cutting off passing lanes, otherwise disrupting offenses, and doing a decent job one-on-one. That block of Durant’s shot that resulted in Lawson’s fast break lay-up was a dagger in OKC’s heart.

And the guy can still fly to the basket or nail the trey. I’m well aware he’s teased us for years, yet I believe his train is coming into the station. Hope so.

by LongWindedHank on Jan 20, 2011 12:06 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

If Melo leaves

We better start hoping it clicks with JR. He has the talent, George Karl has the technology to make him the $65 million dollar man, but will he do it?
Watching JR and Nene develop will be the reason I watch the Nuggets in a post-Melo era…whats your reason?

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by JR15 on Jan 20, 2011 12:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Anyone listen to the post game locker room interviews on 950 AM?

It’s been a while since I’ve posted but I didn’t see anyone mention this…

Melo was being interviewed by Aaron Lopez (?) and a teammate in the background interjected about practice, leading Aaron to ask about poor team practices recently (first I had heard of this), to which Melo got ruffled and said something to the effect of dismissing critics who emphasize practice. He didn’t go so far as to give the infamous A.I. diatribe, but it was clear where Melo stood from his response.

Then Aaron interviewed Afflalo, asking him the same question re: practice. AAA’s reply was great (in my opinion). He scoffed at the notion that bad practice habits could lead to success and chalked up the victory to luck. I found it to be an interesting contrast for a team that has in recent years been questioned on giving up, apathy, etc.

by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 20, 2011 12:44 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

The bad practice reference

was to Karl calling out Melo for lacking focus in practice on Tuesday. Obviously, Melo didn’t enjoy being called out. Given his response in games after being either booed by the fans, or called out by his coach, perhaps he should be booed and called out for every game.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jan 20, 2011 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

My understanding was that the whole team had a bad practice...

not just Melo.

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by SDcat09 on Jan 20, 2011 2:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Great game last night

Finally had good tickets thanks to my ex-girlfriend and her family. They are all from OKC and rooting for the Thunder, who, as you know, I think are pretty awesome and fun to watch. My fav team AFTER the Nuggets.

BTW: I cheered for Melo at the end.

Bring on the Lakers. Meh. Not as exciting when they aren’t as good. Oh well. What can you do?

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 20, 2011 12:45 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

The Lakers are still the defending Champs

Can’t disregard them until they are out. Still they always fire the Nuggets up and we tend to play them well.
Just an aside, but I hate watching Nugs vs. Spurs b/c of the refs. I thought the refs favored the Lakers, but the Spurs get so many favorable calls it is asinine.

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Jan 20, 2011 12:57 PM MST up reply actions  

No doubt

By far my #1 hated team. NBA loves those guys!

by Gasus on Jan 20, 2011 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

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