Could LaLa be the Nuggets' Yoko?...
by Andrew Feinstein on Aug 13, 2010 12:47 AM MDT
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PrintThere are a number of plausible scenarios for why Carmelo Anthony could leave Denver. #1 on the list might be his wife.
When...ok, IF...Carmelo Anthony leaves Denver for New York or another mega market elsewhere, there will be plenty of blame to go around. Some will blame management for failing to build a championship-caliber team around the greatest Nugget since Alex English. Some will blame Melo's representation of Leon Rose and "Worldwide Wes" for manipulating the free agent system for Melo as they did this summer for LeBron James. Some will blame Melo himself for having delusions of grandeur about where he belongs in the NBA's star system...a belief that might lead him to the biggest market possible.
And others will blame Melo's wife and longtime companion, "television personality" LaLa Vazquez, for breaking up the Nuggets akin to the way Yoko Ono (allegedly) led to John Lennon's departure from the Beatles 40 years ago.
When...ok, IF...Melo leaves, all will be fair game for criticism. But don't for a second underestimate LaLa's role in a possible Melo departure.
LaLa's insatiable appetite for attention never seems to abate, evident most recently by having VH1 film and eventually broadcast a series based on her and Melo's summer nuptials in New York. She also has her own Twitter account (ok, who doesn't these days?) and allegedly caused quite a stir with Mavericks fans during the playoffs two years ago in another alleged attempt to get herself into the news.
Given all this, it's fair to question if Denver ever can satisfy LaLa's desire for attention on a national scale. In New York or Los Angeles (where she and Melo recently purchased a new $2 million home), LaLa can hang out with her friends in the entertainment industry, including Kim Kardashian and Ciara, and regain some relevance in those markets' TMZ-driven news cycle. In Denver she's a nobody. I suspect the average Nuggets fan doesn't even know who she is when she saddles up courtside center for games at Pepsi Center.
Having recently turned 31 (making her five years Melo's senior and almost cougar-worthy) and having not worked consistently for about two years, I get the feeling that LaLa wants to regain her somewhat lost fame one more time. And simply put, it ain't happening in Denver.
Like many Nuggets fans, I've heard rumors for years that the Brookyln-born LaLa doesn't like Denver and is counting down the days until she and the Brooklyn-born Melo can live in New York. But while I have no way to substantiate such rumors, it certainly doesn't give Nuggets fans comfort to see LaLa and Melo's Littleton house on the market during the same summer that they bought a house in Los Angeles, got married in New York and Melo is spending a great deal of time in LA or New York (where he was Thursday for the players union's negotiation with NBA owners followed by Nike's World Basketball Festival alongside LeBron, Chris Paul and Amar'e Stoudemire). Nevermind the continued dribble of sourced stories proclaiming Melo's own desire to jettison Denver for New York that many Nuggets fans are foolishly ignoring as heresy.
If LaLa proves to be complicit in breaking up the best Nuggets team in two decades, she won't be the first famous sports wife to have done so. Most famously, Janet Gretzky, nee Jones, was influential in getting her husband Wayne out of Edmonton and to Los Angeles in 1988 so she could continue her fledgling acting career (of course, I only remember her from Police Academy 5: Assignment Miami Beach). And other famous NBA wives have exerted their influence on their more famous husbands, ranging from Shaquille O'Neal's Shaunie (who has her own TV show, Basketball Wives, on VH1) to Doug Christie's Jackie. As a general rule, if you know your favorite player's wife's name, trouble is afoot (see Bryant, Kobe and Wade, Dwyane).
As if you haven't yet noticed, I don't share the confidence of many Denver Stiffs readers who still believe that Melo will sign the contract extension offered to him to stay in Denver. Regardless of your opinion on the issue, in the days and weeks to come we as fans must watch all the indicators closely to gauge how Melo is leaning before we get LeBron'd in the Mile High City. (Of course, it would be helpful if Melo himself actually said something on record regarding his future in Denver.)
And if you're looking for signs one way or the other - is he staying or is he going? - there's no clearer sign in favor of the "he's going!" outcome then that of LaLa Vazquez's desire to live in a bigger pond sooner than later.
She just might be Denver's version of Yoko Ono.
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You know, a month ago I would say that Andrew was just being negative, but now, i’m not so sure. A lot of evidence seems to be going in the “leave” pile, and not much is going into the “stay” pile, behond circumstantial evidence such as “he likes it here”, and “he’ll lose money”. I hate to say it, but it’s not looking good.
normally I'd agree...
…but don’t forget, she’s a very public figure. When you have VH1 broadcast your wedding you cede your right to privacy.
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by Andrew Feinstein on Aug 13, 2010 6:52 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
fair write up
although opinion driven, it isn’t like he is reaching with this article. I buy it.
"Nuggets' Problems Start At The Top"
LaLa and her impact? Who knows what goes on in a marriage. More importantly… What is going on within the Nugs FO? Dave Krieger writes an excellent column in today’s Denver Post titled “Nuggets’ Problems Start At The Top”. Check it out.
Andrew,
I feel like you’ve been on Anthony’s ass as long as I’ve been coming to this blog (only a little over a year now) with frequent criticisms, so I’m not sure why you suddenly care now whether or not he leaves the team. If anything, I would think,based on your history of criticism, that you might be happy that he and the Nuggets may part ways.
With that said, I don’t feel like this post about LaLa is entirely off limits. However your word choice at times is a bit strong. You act as if no other man would even think about consulting his wife prior to making a serious decision such as possibly moving across country. Consider me of a new generation that considers his partner’s feelings on a matter like that, but I would certainly ask mine prior to a decision like that.
I don’t blame Melo for not yet signing the contract extension. Does he have a reason to? The FO is unstable if not currently non-existent and they’ve done nothing to make me believe that the Nuggets can win a championship this year. I like Al Harrington and the acquisition, but he’s hardly the bruising, defensive center that this team has needed for the last 2 years. What’s worse is that everyone seems to know that we need a bruising, defensive 7 footer except the front office. You’ve given a lot of credit to Kroenke in the past as an owner with deep pockets and rightfully so. He has a history of spending. He took on Iverson, and when that didn’t work he brought in Billups, which has been great. But what has Stan done for me lately? Focused on buying a football team while cutting costs on the Nuggets. When’s the last time a team under the luxury tax won the championship? Once the team builds a true, deep contender around Melo, and once he sees his coach return to 100% health, he’d probably be more likely to re-up
Finally, please stop starting each sentence “When…If Carmelo leaves…” You might see the signs that us foolish fans don’t see, but at the end of the day you don’t know any better than we do. When I look at Melo I see very different signs, such as a guy who has been so loyal to a college that he attended for one year that he donates large sums of money and remains connected with the coach and team. I see a guy who could have signed a 3 year contract with babies like Wade, James and Bosh and elected not to. I see a guy who has been loyal to Denver even when people were calling for him to be traded the summer of 08. There are multiple sides to every story, but when you only focus on one, it’s easy to be a negative Nancy and relegate your readers to fools.
by NugNugz on Aug 13, 2010 7:48 AM MDT reply actions 11 recs
I rec this something fierce. He hates Melo. I'll never be convinced otherwise.
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You act as if no other man would even think about consulting his wife prior to making a serious decision such as possibly moving across country. Consider me of a new generation that considers his partner’s feelings on a matter like that, but I would certainly ask mine prior to a decision like that.
…which is exactly why Andrew’s post speaks volumes, in my opinion. Say what you will about a new FO, bringing in a legit 7 footer, backup bigs… when it comes down to it, none of that may matter if, as a family unit, they decide they’ll be happier in NYC.
by Artimus Mangilord on Aug 13, 2010 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1. Andrew, You are a hater
You hate on melo at every chance. Melo has been loyal to Syracuse and Denver in the past, why would that change? Melo was a beast in the utah series and none of his teammates were playing high level basketball with him. He had double-doubles in many of the games, but Chauncey was a zombie, our bigs were injured and JR was JR. I doubt Lala likes it here in denver, but its melo’s career and his decision to make. I think melo knows that his best chance to win is NOT in NY or NJ. Would Lala really enjoy Orlando more than denver?
I have to agree
Andrew, while I always appreciate your take on things, you are relentlessly negative with respect to Carmelo Anthony. As you well know, before Melo, the Nuggets weren’t even a threat to make the playoffs from year to year, much less a perennial playoff contender.
This is not to excuse Melo from criticism for his failures. But I think you’re a little overenthusiastic about tearing him down without thinking back to the bad old days pre-Melo in Denver.
Swats.
by Colin Neilson on Aug 13, 2010 12:54 PM MDT up reply actions
The rational side of me says...
marriage is a partnership, why not live in a setting where both partners can meaningfully pursue their careers, Melo is fulfilling his contract, it’s a free country, blah blah blah.
The problem is I’m not a rational person. The Beatles existed for one reason and one reason only — my musical enjoyment. I was robbed of at least another decade’s worth of Beatles music by Yoko and John’s happy family experience and I’ll be damned if I’ll go quietly when LaLa and Melo’s marriage and family is standing in the way of another decade of Nuggets playoff basketball.
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+1 marriage is best as a partnership...
We all know who wears the panties in my marriage. I don’t take a shower without clearing it with my wife.
The Yoko analogy is so accurate it’s painful.
So, I do NOT want to be LeBron’ed or Big Dike’d – of course, all Nugs fan hope we NEVER have a FO like Bickerstaff ever again!
I’m sure the Krieger article sights the current lack of direction (both FO and future at head coach) as a reason why Melo is hesitating. Who is running this asylum?
So, my vote – sign by the start of camp or trade.
I’m getting more nervous than watching a playoff game…
It's not just about you
That’s kind of the mentality that ruined the Beatles. A subject that has such a large impact on the world such as the Beatles have an obligation to society to think more in terms of the greater good than just for themselves in my opinion. Melo has that obligation with the Nuggets organization and hopefully he notices it, although it wouldn’t be the first time it hasn’t happened. On a side note, Lennon’s first solo album was one of the greatest albums of all time, so at least some good came out of it. I don’t know, maybe Melo is destined to be the savior of NY basketball similar to what he was here.
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by GoldenNugget on Aug 16, 2010 7:32 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll agree to many things you say but the Two Virgins album was a dog.
Perhaps you are referring to the Plastic Ono Band album. At any rate, Two Virgins was his actual first solo album.
Plastic Ono Band
Yeah my bad. I thought it was his first solo album, but sounds like he had one before then.
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by GoldenNugget on Aug 16, 2010 11:30 PM MDT up reply actions
The nuggs
only hope is for a good season and a extended playoff push. Otherwise, Melo is as good as gone
I don’t think that is going to happen. There is no way the Nuggets are going to have Melo in the playoffs if he hasn’t signed the extension. I still believe Melo will sign with the Nuggets, but if he doesn’t do it before the trade deadline, there is no way the Nuggets are going to let him walk away on his own. Look at how the playoffs went for Lebron, I don’t think the Nuggets want a repeat of that fiasco.
I don't think Melo will be as classless as LeBron...
even if he does leave.
If the Nugs are having a really good season and Melo still hasn’t signed, what would you do? Make the big trade in February and go for the one shot at the title even if it may mean lotteryville next season, or trade him to ensure above average (but not championship) basketball for a couple more years?
QPU # 2.
Even if he agrees to leave after the season,
the Nuggets can still do a sign and trade ensuring they at least get a TE or something in return.
by Melo'sPersonofSeattle on Aug 13, 2010 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions
and we all know how eager the FO has been in using their TE's...
it will just turn into yet another salary dump.
by InboundingLobPass on Aug 13, 2010 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Denver house
a $2M house in LA is nothing compared to the $9.5M house he is dumping here. The LA house is temporary living quarters. it’s been nice, Melo! Wish you could’ve stayed longer…
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by runningdonut on Aug 13, 2010 11:19 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
I feel like I'm at Safeway walking past the racks of US Magazine and Weekly World News
Andrew, when are you having the party to celebrate Melo’s leaving. I know it will be a big day for you.
I think I know why Andrew has seats behind the bench...
So he can heckle Melo.
Andrew, when are you going to admit you really don’t like Melo and don’t want him to be a Nugget anymore?
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I highly suggets everyon here read Dave Krieger's column in the Post this morning
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_15764171
Not a soul on this planet know’s what Melo is going to do. He has said NOTHING to anyone. Which has made this thing all the more anxiety ridden. Think of it….the only “sources” about Melo’s departure come from New York based writers who are trying to provoke an early trade. It’s what they do. Don’t pay attention to idiots with agendas.
The reason I point to Krieger’s column is exactly what my friend in the front office has been telling me. Regardless of Bearup’s “role” in the FO….the utter chaos that has gone on since the end of the season has hurt our chances in retaining Melo. Warkentein was said to be working on trades for mid season when he was told his contract wasn’t going to be renewed. That tells me there was some urgency to get something done. The Nuggets would be better off in naming Bearup GM/vice president and stop this charade they have been playing out
You can’t “trade” Melo at the deadline. We simply aren’t going to get what we want, forget about equal value. If Melo want’s to leave a sign and trade is the best option the Nuggets have.
With all that being said. Melo has stated to Chauncey and many others he actually likes Denver quite a bit. Regardless of LaLa’s feelings (which are a minor consideration) Im still confident he will re-sign. If the Nuggets start out hot, and they make a great trade at the deadline (if they have a GM by then) then we could be looking at Melo staying long term.
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geh.....in header it should read "suggest" not suggets
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by deezNuggets on Aug 13, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
lol
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ugh. that article makes me sick
I am really down on the nugs future right now. We have no plan. Kroenke cares more about getting credit than winning. Melo can see this.
The obvious route for both success this season and keeping melo was a major deadline deal with our big expirings. Wark, who has pulled several great deals the last few years, was working on this, and gets dismissed for…I’m not sure. Apparently getting too much attention and so Stan could promote his son.
Now we have two extremely pressing issues going into the season (shoring up the frontline and keeping melo), which if they don’t get addressed the nugs are heading back to the NBA’s backwater, while having no discernible front office and an increasingly megalomaniacal owner.
Sorry to be chicken little but I honestly think the nugs are on a disastrous trajectory right now. Really hope I’m wrong.
by Rainbow skyline on Aug 13, 2010 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Eh
I agree with Andrew. There is a difference between wishing Melo would leave and coming to a pretty realistic conclusion that it may happen. There is no loyalty in sports any more and I would not blame him at all for picking a huge market like NY, and there is no doubt that LaLa will pull him in that direction.
Why aren’t there any semi-good looking, middle aged, pseudo-celebs in Denver that he could have latched onto? Come one Melo, what about Maya sparks?
Aside from Maya already being married?
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The ring on her finger during her broadcasts was a clue :)
And a quick read of her biography on altitude….:)
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wasn't she pregnant a couple years ago too?
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Yup...althought doesn't necessarily mean marriage :)
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Maybe the Nugs should offer to fire Maya
and give the gig to LaLa.
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by margabelle on Aug 13, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
meh...I'm not a fan of LaLa...but I see what you're going for....
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I don't think Andrew deserves the poo..
… he’s getting in some comments. Melo (and John Lennon) has every right to choose his own path and it’s perfectly fair for Andrew to show how significant others’ influence is not always in the best interests of the fans. Melo owes us nothing more than another year of 100% and to not be deceptive about his future intentions.
QPU # 2.
Please insinuating the LaLa = Yoko is dirty pool....
considering how Yoko was reviled by a vast majority of Beatles (whether or not she actually caused the breakup of the Beatles.)
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truth the be told....the Beatles would have broken up anyway
Yoko didn’t help, but without her it would have just been a slower death, so to speak
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Frankly this is just baiting the fanbase to hate on LaLa needlessly...or hate on Melo
for being with LaLa. Or piss off Melo….
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i agree
My initial reaction was to get suckered in and start seeing that LaLa undoubtedly affects Melo’s decisions. I started to assume that she’s selling him hard on leaving. It took me a second to give them all the benefit of the doubt; that maybe LaLa wants Melo to make the decision that’s right for his career and his dreams, because maybe she’s not a media hungry celebutante, but someone who loves Melo enough to let him sign on for another three years if it helps him to win a championship;
…but I do mean “let him” sign.
by deezNuggets on Aug 13, 2010 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions
So you mean you don't agree...?
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no, I agree
that it was “baiting the fanbase to hate on LaLa needlessly”.
(agree with you, disagree with Andrew)
I was trying to convey that my initial reaction to the post (resenting LaLa) was unfair to LaLa and Melo. My attention was a little scattered at the time, so I’m not sure if I was communicating very well. Does this clarify?
La La was getting beer thrown on her by Mavs fans in that series...
but in your words she was trying to get herself in the news again?? Come on man. You act like LaLa and Melo did something to you and you will never be satisfied till they are gone.
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they were also shouting racial slurs at her
Gosh, I hate attention-starved people like LaLa. (sarcasm)
Not looking forward to a whole year of this
I served la las table once when I worked downtown. Pretty pointless and doesn’t mean I know anything about her but already trying to stereotype his celebrity wife as this control freak is a little out there to me. IMO it doesn’t matter to a pure sports fan who pro athletes choose to marry or why. I honestly don’t care and blaming anyone except melo for bailing is a load of bull. It’s exactly like everyone pointing to Dan Gilbert or espn to justify lebrons douchebaggery. If melo leaves we will get over it and it proves that he just isn’t up to the task of leading this city to an NBA title and it’s time for someone else to get a shot. The real question is what does Andrew have to complain about if melo does make his way out of town
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by runningdonut on Aug 13, 2010 11:56 AM MDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
agree
every other post up nowadays is some sort of diss on Melo. Gettin old…
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alas I agree
I’m not looking forward to the speculation and the hand wringing that will be going on here. It’s all because of Lebron….people need to understand that Melo isn’t Lebron in more ways than just one.
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by jpage78 on Aug 13, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Very weak argument for LaLa wanting the limelight
I have my own twitter account, for crise sakes. And the Maverick thing? She asked those Dallas fans to be assholes (like their owner)? I’d like to think that if Melo wants to stay, it will be his call. Am I 100% sure he will stay? Of course not.
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by Bob in Boulder on Aug 13, 2010 12:15 PM MDT reply actions
I agree
It’s going to be up to Melo. I just hope he makes an NBA basketball-based decision for the prime years of his career. BUT, we really need to regain some of the momentum we lost towards winning a championship. We need to project in the coming months as unequivocal top contenders over the next three years.
If he signs the extension and wins a championship here, in three years he can go home to NY (Brooklyn Nyets?) a hero.
by deezNuggets on Aug 13, 2010 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Andres, since you are making up the news as you go...
What do you think of all those black helicopters flying over Denver lately?
I saw three of them
1 was piloted by lebron
2 was piloted by dwade
3 was piloted by bosh
pat riley was leading from the ground. they are searching for melo.
I wonder if Melo's ever seen the movie Red Dawn
Filmed right here in CO
by Artimus Mangilord on Aug 13, 2010 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions
It was actually filmed in New Mexico
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Ha not a burn
just a fact. I had to look it up myself but I know most movies are not shot where they play and no exception here. The new one is being filmed in Michigan…it better not mention Colorado at all.
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A lot of films are shot in New Mexico because they have more lenient taxes down there.
by InboundingLobPass on Aug 13, 2010 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions
tis true. I used to live in Albuquerque
Gov. Richardson made it a big part of his platform or something to turn New Mexico into like the new California. I don’t know how well it worked out, but I think the most recent Terminator was filmed in NM as well.
You're right
that should have read ‘took place’ in Colorado. At least that’s what I remember of that awful plot.
by Artimus Mangilord on Aug 17, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Suggestion: Andrew's Next Article
“I Heart Melo: He seems like a good dude, he’s a very good basketball player, and his wife is OK too.”
Meh
Just a little balance is all. Having every new post be some sort of negative speculation about Melo or the Nuggets gets really tiring after a while.
I’m all for telling it like it is, so of course there should be some negatives, but you gotta balance it out with positives. Otherwise it just gets depressing and hard to read.
Swats.
by Colin Neilson on Aug 13, 2010 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Except this isn't telling it like it is. This is more akin to something I'd read in Page Six..
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i agree
espn and national media will be speculating on this enough in the coming months. do we really have to read about it here too? give it a rest andrew. quit trying to stir up shit and make a name for yourself. let’s try and focus on this season rather than speculate about a future ‘summer of melo’.
Especially since some of here were chastised for a little teasing about LeBron's mom
But Melo’s wife is not off limits? Sounds suspiciously like hating to me.
MMGraves, that was me who deleted those comments. Seemed like the stuff the Nuggs were getting from Dallas fans and the owner in the playoffs. This is quite a bit different.
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by Nate Timmons on Aug 13, 2010 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions
All we did was joke a bit (nothing gory) about a tshirt that was made
Nobody was calling lebrons mom yoko ono, that’s freaking harsh man.
A few rebuttal points...
First off, as always I sincerely appreciate everyone taking the time to check in on this site daily and serve up your own opinions on all things Nuggets…whether you agree with me or not. But to suggest for a second that I’m inherently “anti-Melo” or a “Melo hater” is patently absurd. Did I not in this very article refer to Melo as the greatest Nugget since Alex English? And was it not me who advocated for the Nuggets to offer Melo a max extension back on June 8th?: http://www.denverstiffs.com/2010/6/8/1506732/melo-should-be-offered-an-extension
Just because I don’t love Melo (and no, I don’t love Melo but very much like Melo) doesn’t mean I hate Melo nor does it mean I want Melo run out of town. It doesn’t have to be one or the other (i.e. love vs. hate). Since this blog’s inception, I’ve repeatedly commended Melo for getting the Nuggets into the postseason seven straight times and have no delusions about where this franchise would be today without him.
That said, I absolutely refuse to sit quietly by and risk the Nuggets getting Bosh’d or LeBron’d by Melo at season’s end. Melo – and his public figure of a wife – have every right to go anywhere they want…if that’s what they indeed decide to do. It’s their family, their life, their choice and I wish them nothing but well wishes if they go about their business in a manner respectful to the great fans of the Nuggets. But Melo owes us one thing for the dollars we’ve funneled into his and LaLa’s pockets: a straight answer before it’s too late.
Simply put, anything short of Melo signing that extension – and of course that would be my and many fans’ preference – trades must be considered while the Nuggets can exert some leverage (more on this to come next week).
And if in some small measure Denver Stiffs can get us to that straight answer sooner than later, the better off this franchise will be.
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by Andrew Feinstein on Aug 13, 2010 1:52 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Ah....but as Nate pointed out Andrew
the Nuggets leverage is very slight. They couldn’t possibly trade Melo for equal value (pipe dream) and stockpiling draft picks won’t cut it for a fanbase that doesn’t want to retreat to the “bad old days” of the late 90’s early 00’s.
As Nate pointed out, once you put Melo out there….you can’t keep it quiet. Every team in the NBA will sniff it out and what will happen is similar to the Toronto Blue Jays saying they might trade Roy Halliday last year. They didn’t get even CLOSE to what they wanted for him….with teams preferring to wait out the Jays and get Halliday in the off season. If Melo doesn’t want to sign, a sign and trade at the end of the season is the best we can hope for.
Lets face it….Trading Melo to prevent fans anxiety is a horrible way to practice business. It’s horrifically stupid considering we don’t KNOW what Melo wants. This is all because of Lebron….and people are assuming (for whatever reason) that Melo will do the same thing. I think that is a ridiculous assumption
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by jpage78 on Aug 13, 2010 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
How do you know?
How do you know we wouldn’t be able to get great value for Melo? No, we arn’t going to get a player of equal value, but I think what Andys saying is that if you know Melo is going to leave, then you have to get at least something for him. A sign and trade after this year isn’t going to get us near the value as trading him before this season starts or even at the trade deadline. I’m just not so sure that teams won’t be handing over a shit load of draft picks and young talented players for Melo.
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by GoldenNugget on Aug 16, 2010 7:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Reality
Melo is under zero pressure to sign the extension anytime soon – and he will never say that he’s not planning on taking it. Maybe that’s the right thing to do for Denver fans, but we aren’t gonna hear about it a year in advance. The extension offer is dangling out there, with Denver desperate for him to take it. That’s a huge amount of leverage and he’s just not giving that up. If he’s planning on leaving, we will not hear about it soon. It’s likely to be sudden and painful no matter what – until the very moment Melo leverages his next deal with whatever team it is. It’s business and that’s the way it works.
The franchise remains in a holding pattern and taking the stance that we’re trading him no matter what makes Denver the sucker. Honestly, who is trading a top 10 player for Melo midseason even with a guarantee he will sign long term? It’s just a matter of waiting a few more months for him to opt out. Without knowing what the team future will look like trading Melo just to get something could do more harm than good. Especially since Denver could have a mostly blank slate under a new CBA one year from now.
Nate pointed this out already, but just weigh the pros and cons of saying “we have to trade Melo.” No question, what little leverage the Nuggets have probably isn’t worth all the downside risk. What’s a realistic Melo trade. Probably Luol Deng. I’m not sure the Nuggets aren’t better off starting over on their own terms with a clean salary sheet
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by runningdonut on Aug 13, 2010 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Deng's contract sucks
in that sense I agree with you.
But let the record show that I firmly believe that Melo isn’t leaving, provided we give him some stability and roster improvements.
To the argument that Melo doesn't have to sign the extension 'anytime soon'
The longer this goes on, the writing on the wall changes from “he’s holding us (the FO) to a higher standard” to “he has no intention of staying or he would have given us some positive indication”. It’s a mind game for sure, but the stakes change the longer this goes on. Does the FO want to further mortgage the future of a team that increasingly looks to go back to playoff misses (if Melo leaves) the longer the wait game goes on this season? In other words, IF Melo truly wants to stay, the longer he holds out on any verbal commitment or otherwise, the less inclined the FO may actually do, ironic as that may seem.
by Artimus Mangilord on Aug 13, 2010 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions
It’s curious to me that everyone assumes that Melo and the FO have not come to some sort of gag agreement in light of the labor negotiations. Stan and Melo could already have this thing done and are holding their cards close to their chest as Union v. Owner negotiations move forward. Don’t forget that just because we really, really, really WANT to know everything doesn’t mean that we know anything at all.
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by Big Mickey D on Aug 13, 2010 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Don’t forget that just because we really, really, really WANT to know everything doesn’t mean that we know anything at all.
Your scenario just isn’t very plausible. In light of the labor negotations, and assuming Melo and Kroenke want the same thing, why would they hold out from each other in some secretive manner rather than move on with the signing?
by Artimus Mangilord on Aug 17, 2010 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions
I intended it to be something implausible and fanciful
because so is EVERY OTHER FUCKING THEORY until someone (hmm Melo maybe?) says something.
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by Big Mickey D on Aug 20, 2010 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Melo isn't going anywhere
Andrew,
Thanks for all your good work. I completely agree that it’s not a love or hate issue. People overreact to any criticism.
As for Melo leaving, I think that we can than Lebron, Wade, and Bosh.
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/23851350
The new CBA will contain some provision that will make it very difficult, if not impossible, for Melo to walk out without compensation. Either they’ll be able to keep him, or they’ll receive a lot of compensation.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Aug 13, 2010 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
*thank
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Aug 13, 2010 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
i have not read one rumor of him saying he's going to stay
every thing you hear from his camp or associates is he wants to go to new york. whats a nugget fan supposed to think? i have to agree with andrew we need to put team first not melo. I myself do not like being held hostage by this pre-modanna and already becoming feed up with it and not looking forword to this season.shame on you melo and all the super-stars who think they owe the fans nothing. there going to ruin the nba and turn small and medium markets into farm teams.
I heard he's staying
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Aug 13, 2010 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions
from who??? melo told you??
you can go on bleacher report.hoopshype,hoopsworld,cbssports,espn and just about every nba media outlet everyday and read a story or rumor that he’s allready made up his mind and going to the knicks. now you tell me where those melo’s staying in denver stories are at? theres none, all signs are pointing to him leaving. if it looks like a duck walks like a duck quacks like a duck then……… its a f**cking duck.
Or it's people stirring the ducks on the pond
since LeBron is a dead duck in many people eyes, and they need a new duck to quack about.
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exactly
Melo staying is not nearly as exciting to the media as Melo leaving.
not to mention it's August
and the media’s choice for coverage can be Terrico White getting a minimum deal from the Pistons or invented shit about Carmelo wanting to go to the Knicks. Which is going to get a bigger audience?
when has his camp or associates ever said anything?
Can you provide a link?
and CP3 supposedly saying something at Melo’s wedding doesn’t count.
rumor
He asked for a rumor, not a factual story. I heard via the grapevine that Melo is staying. Pure rumor.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Aug 13, 2010 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions
You heard it from me
and I heard it from Tempestuous Binary who heard it from jpage78. If we don’t have a critical path of truth here then I don’t know what is.
In the past, has Melo's camp said much about his negotiations before he signed any agreements?
I’m asking a serious question. Because if not, then why is this time being treated differently.
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This time is different
because we all just witnessed the Lebacle in Cleveland. Now everyone is hypersensitive.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Aug 13, 2010 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm offended that anyone think's Melo is remotely the narcissist LeBron has become...
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so true...
Melo hardly gets commercials, let alone a freakin hour long special on espn. Nor does he dance around the entire freakin game like an asshole.
Lala has a profession which happens to showcase her in the public spectrum
just as her husband. She is a VJ and will want what is best for her profession, which would be working in New York. I assume Melo wants the same when it comes to himself and therefore will take the money and stay, I’m sure she can still work gigs from LA or NY while he is playing, he is on the road half the year anyway and they can obviously afford great care for their kid when away. But if he leaves I highly doubt his wife wanting attention will have anything to do with it.
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by Phil H. on Aug 13, 2010 3:44 PM MDT reply actions 8 recs
THANK YOU!!
/applauds
and rec’d
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I might as well
let you do the commenting for me, SDcat. I’m agreeing with you all day.
lol..hivemind....heh
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I have various reasons for thinking that Melo may not sign here
HOWEVER, those are just feelings. Not proof. I don’t understand this rush to banish Melo from Denver over some anxiety that he may leave. My mom used to have this saying….“you dread something enough, you’ll eventually subconsciously make it happen” and it’s so true here.
Lets look for the Nuggets to have a good year. That’s it. The other stuff will take care of it’self
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My mom used to say
If you talk about something all the time then you make it important. So I’m not gonna talk about Melo leaving anymore.
Good point. I'm going to worry about the Rockies for now :)
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My mom used to say
put your dirty clothes in the hamper.
…so that’s what I’m gonna do.
Didn't even bother reading the article. The title alone makes me say "boo".
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It’s sensationalism. Nothing more. No real news or quoted sources, just conjecture for the purpose of grabbing attention. I just pray the Carmelo Anthony doesn’t read any of his BS…
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by Big Mickey D on Aug 13, 2010 6:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Whether Melo stays or leaves...
I will always be thankful for the exciting basketball and winning atmosphere he brought to Denver. I sincerely believe he gives everything he’s got every single time.
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I know how Melo decides whether to go to NY or not
He bases his decision completely on whether or not the team has a Makoto
Melo and LaLa should think about the environment they’re raising their kid in. Obviously he will lead a very privileged and sheltered life, I’d think they see bringing him up in Denver would be better than New York.
haha but seriously I think we have to just be happy we have Lawson to look forward to, assuming they don’t trade him away stupidly.
by InboundingLobPass on Aug 13, 2010 5:36 PM MDT reply actions
haha yeah god imagine where we'd be if
Bzzzzdelik was still head coach…
by InboundingLobPass on Aug 13, 2010 6:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
In nba 2k10 my player mode
they traded Ty lawson for Mareese speights, and Nene for steven hunter, lol.
nooooooooooooo!
The virtual Nuggets are even more desperate for height and cap relief than the real Nuggets!
…and I thought we were in the next generation of gaming already.
Yeah
But at least trading nene opened up playing time for my guy, the 7’5" center.
ha
y’know, I thought about it afterwards and figured it must have been a maxed out 7’5" point guard, or why would they trade Lawson? I like the 7’5" center way better. Just what we needed.
by deezNuggets on Aug 13, 2010 11:02 PM MDT up reply actions
He is kind of a beast, but kind of a stiff at the same time
He is this huge white guy, but he is a beast on the boards, esp offensive. He misses open layups though.
ha
I always wondered what we’d look like with a player like that. Undeniable paint presence with no touch.
they are 13th in the west
moral of the story, dont have 6 PFs on the roster, or trade Lawson and Nene for speights and hunter.
let's see
PFs:
1. Nene
2. Kenyon
3. Birdman
4. Harrington
5. Balkman
6. Shelden
…shit.
by deezNuggets on Aug 14, 2010 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Melo has earned the right to make his choice whenever he wants...
as long as the current FO (what’s left of it) is in flux. Its in their hands from this point to field the best team possible to get this team to the NBA Finals, as anything less guarantees he will be gone. If the Nuggets are not in the hunt near the top of the Western Conference AND leading the division come the trade deadline, then both parties will need to make the decision to move and get the best deal possible for all involved. Another championship contender other than L.A. or Miami will jump at the chance to trade for him, but that may not mean much in return for the Nuggets. Trading him to the east coast (NY, NJ, Washington, or Philly) might get the Nuggets some lottery picks and maybe some young talent as well. Be sure of this though, if the FO screws this team up by not making it competitive even before having to trade Melo, future cap space will be irrelevant as no decent free agent will want to come here post Melo unless they overpay. After getting rid of the expiring contracts I doubt Kroenke will want to spend like that again. Maybe this is all a master plan to gut this team and move them to St. Louis, but I don’t want to be a conspiracy theorist, even though Kroenke doesn’t seem to care about the Avs anymore either.
if lala is yoko...............
melo is john. chauncey is paul. kmart is george and earl smith is ringo. seriously lala is a pretty hot babe but……… there are hundreds of hotter women hanging out car windows on federal blvd., during cinco de mayo. melo has triple double talent. the fact is he is a ball hog on offense and he goes through the motions on defense. the utah playoff series exposed melo for what kind of player he really is. the jazz had a 7 foot ruski stiff at center. the 6’8" carlos boozer and 6’7" paul milsap dominated the front line. melo will always get his points no matter what. star power and being a pretty boy is all he cares about now. if he wants to be lala’s nuetered poodle that is his right. there is nothing wrong with being able to put your personal feelings aside and telling it like it is. andrew deserves major credit for being open minded and objective.
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Objective?
it is in the “news and OPINION” column.
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Was Melo neutered after he fathered Kiyan?
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Apparently Melo is responsible for taking about 3 front-line players?
Melo, in my opinion, was one of very few Nuggets that actually showed up for that series. Didn’t he have a game of 39 pts and 11 rbs that they lost? Maybe he isn’t the problem?
I would hardly call him a ball hog. Billups is the only other consistent scoring threat on this team (that is aggressive anyway, since Nene would rather kick it out for 3 than dunk it) and he was quite obviously out of gas during that series.
39, 11 & 9
9 is for turnovers. He was really the only one trying that game.
New Jersey Targeting Melo
New Jersey aquired Troy Murphy in that 4 team trade a few days ago because his contract comes off the books, at the end of the season leaving the nets with 20 million free cap space so they can go after Melo, Accourding to Hoopshype.
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Its attitudes like Nohoops4u & frankly, Andrew
that I could see Melo leave Denver after all. I’ve come to like the Nugs as a Cuse alum who followed Melo’s entire tenure there- but you’d have to be a total moron to not understand why Melo’s not signing that extension. For years, we’ve witnessed the lack of height & girth in the frontcourt, yet the FO only drafted/traded for smaller PFs & Cs. We watched last year as the Lakers added Artest & tinkered w/ their lineup- yet the Nugs did NOTHING! Why would any star player stick around w/ a FO that can’t get out of its own way? Where a journeyman unknown like Fesenko (“Fesenko”?) out-plays Nene, & some here jump in and immediately blame Melo. Any evidence of objectivity by Andrew & assorted douches like Nohoops4u (JMHO), went out the window when we witnessed the BLAME Melo got for “losing” the Jazz series! I well remember Andrew’s article after that last game…& it was downright shameful. (JMHO)
I’d love for Melo to stay in Denver, but if he does leave- I will come back to this blog just to read the rationale of those Debbie Downers who’ve dogged him his entire career there. I’m not saying some criticism hasn’t been deserved, after all no player is perfect. But unfairly pounding a guy, because you can’t face the disappointment of having a MEDIOCRE FO??? Well, thats just being stupid. (JMHO)
by VerbalKint on Aug 14, 2010 6:15 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
JMHO
melo was the guy that did an anti police no snitching video. thousands of innocent women and children get beat down daily on the streets of west baltimore by violent street gangs. melo’s advise to them- NO SNITCHING! melo gets bitch slapped during a basketball game and what does he do? stops playing basketball AND STARTS SNITCHING TO THE REFEREES. melo and all of his fans cannot have it both ways. when players like carlos boozer and elton brand have career 20 point and 10 rebound averages, melo has less than 60 career double doubles. he should have a minimum of 60 double doubles per season. you want to bring up the subject of douches fine by me. how about the douche that was arrested for DUI. talk about the douche that was caught trying to board an air plane with weed in his backpack. i cannot wait to hear your honest opinion of the douche that threw a sucker punch during a basketball game at madison square garden then ran away. why would any star player stick around? only a total douche would think a douche like carmelo anthony is a star deserving of a max contract (JMHO).
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I don't know...
He seems to have cleaned up his image the past couple of years.
I can only remember the douche who led the Nuggets out of the dungeon into the playoffs every single year. What a douche, that Melo.
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Nohoops
I dont even know what to say. I dont like what you said in the above comment, but you are of course entitled to your opinion, even if it is fucking retarded.
i will be glad to tell you what is really retarded
melo not being honest and up front with all of his loyal and dedicated fans. how can you really expect a douche like melo to be man enough and say what his intentions are? why go and string along the people that buy his shoes, buy his jersey, pay to see him play, invent execuses for him and try to rewrite history for his benefit? i would think people like you deserve better. it is very obvious melo does not think too much of his unwavering supporters as they do of him.
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maybe he hasn't made his intentions clear because he doesn't know yet.
Did you ever think of that?
You are talking like he is already a Knick
Last I checked, he is still in powered blue. All signs point to him staying, and dont say BS cbs sports articles count as evidence of melo leaving. I think those writers want to stir up fans like you, so we end up running him out of town by the trade deadline.
agreed
I imagine fan support is still a factor to Melo, and we’re going to need a little more solidarity.
nohoops, your morale sounds shot to shit. If you jump ship in anticipation of him leaving, you won’t get any credit for predicting his departure.
pull yourself together, man!
by deezNuggets on Aug 15, 2010 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions
the snitching comparison
is really incongruous.
…though I do think Melo complains too much.
I don’t think Melo’s a douche. Then again I may also be a douche seeing as how I have also been arrested for DUI, and possession, and have exercised bad judgement in a physical altercation, and have been known to not live up to my potential… AND I also think Melo deserves a max contract.
Though some of those things don’t help, I don’t think any of them mean that I am a douche.
…though I do enjoy cleaning vaginas.
by deezNuggets on Aug 14, 2010 11:44 PM MDT up reply actions
thousands of women and children get beat down daily in West Baltimore?
where do you get your facts man? Don’t make blind statements or stereotypes.
Is Melo the only person to say stop snitching? No.
Is Melo the only person to ever get caught with weed? No.
Is Melo the only person to ever get a DUI? No.
Don’t hold him to god-like standards when he’s just a man.
Furthermore, the players you named that get double doubles are PFs. Melo is a SF. There’s a difference.
Nohoopus4u
Do us all a favor and rent and watch the shows The Wire (set in West Baltimore) and Treme and then maybe you can understand why African-American communities don’t necessarily want cops around. It’s not just so they can beat down thousands of innocent women and children daily. I know you’re an expert on West Baltimore and all, but it might just enlighten you some.
+1000
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by Big Mickey D on Aug 20, 2010 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions
he didnt “do” an anti police no snitching video. i dnt even think he said more than 10 words. and i highly doubt hes in baltimore helping ppl beat down thousands of innocent women and children. and at the garden, wasnt he helping out jr? and i couldve sworn Marty Collins had his hand wrapped around melos neck b4 melo punched him. but nevermind that, the douch built a rec center in baltimore for kids in the community. o yea, he even had 1 built at Syracuse and is even traveling around this summer having basketball courts built. u ever think maybe melo hasnt even made up his mind yet?
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What a fucker Melo is.
How dare he try to help out the inner city youth. He should be beating them down by the thousands.
he didn't say a single word in the video
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by Big Mickey D on Aug 20, 2010 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Nohoops..
Have you actually seen this video? Watch the ESPN documentary on Melo from last year. It addresses this video directly. Melo was implicated only through guilt by association. His appearance was manipulated by the maker of the video. I strongly advise you to watch this and then take some time to revisit your opinion of this video. In fact, I’ll help you with this endeavor and provide the links right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw3Y2-zHepw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlX2SwJMlC0&feature=related
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+1000
Nice links and well deserved condescension to, well, some very “douchey” comments.
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by Big Mickey D on Aug 20, 2010 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Thank you Nohoops
First off to Verbal, our front office since Melo has been here has been one of the best in the NBA. We’re currently one of the only teams who have made the playoffs for the past 7 years in a row and one of only a few that are on back to back to back 50 seasons. To say our front office hasn’t done a great job since Melo has been here is just plain wrong.
Like Nohoops and Andrew, I think you can look at Lala and ask the question about her influence on Melo. The dude has been head over heals for her since he was 20 and it wouldn’t surprise me if she played a larger roll in this than anybody. I mean, come on, look at all the celebrities that attended their wedding. The Kardashians??? I’m not trying to be a hater when it comes to chosing friends but when some of the biggest reality drama queens that have ever graced the tv are guests at your wedding you know the limelight is something that just comes with thier friendship. Andrews post is pure opinion and speculation, but the bottom line is it’s FAIR! Nobody’s hating on Melo here. In fact, if anything Andys been the most realistic one of anybody, as know ESPN is claiming Melo is for sure going to leave. How do you all look now calling Andy a hater. He’s the one crackin the case here. You guys are still several steps behind.
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by GoldenNugget on Aug 16, 2010 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I still think the cat inside the case
was alive before he opened it. I think what it looks like now might not have been what it would have looked like if we had opened it a few weeks before the trade deadline.
Andrew has played this card way earlier than I would have liked, and I honestly am surprised that the landscape has changed so much in the few days since he posted this.
Andrew took the enthusiasm out of GoldenNugget. That saddens me to no end.
Please wait ‘til the season starts and then reassess your trade demands. It’s easier to give it up when we have only talk that he is leaving, no front office, no transactions, no actual basketball games. When the season starts we’ll have more talk that he is leaving, but we’ll also have a front office, and maybe even a roster addition, and maybe we’ll even be playing excellent basketball. All of the evidence looks different in that light. Then when we have a healthy roster, all of the stuff that didn’t happened in the offseason looks a little more insignificant. Then maybe by the trade deadline something largely unpredictable happens to strengthen our roster and our outlook, and changes the climate of the situation dramatically. In our circle and out in the media. Then maybe we’ll have talks of Melo leaving AND increasingly compelling reasons for him not too.
If I were the FO I would try to reach an agreement with Melo that allows him to hold off his decision until the end of the season, at which point he either signs the extension or agrees to a sign and trade (a “don’t screw us over” agreement). Melo gets his max contract, teams will pony up, we will have done everything we can to keep Melo, while presumably making the roster stronger.
IN THE MEAN TIME, encourage Melo to notch it up a level and make the hype machine go crazy, let him know we’re serious by bolstering our roster, show Melo and every other team that he is worth the effort, make the Knicks and the Nyets and the Bulls drool over the possibilities… make the hype machine go crazy. That’s leverage. We won’t be devastated if he leaves, we get the sign and trade and more value than if we trade him now. And the harder we try to keep him, the better Melo looks, and the more leverage we will have.
In comparison, I don’t see us having any leverage now.
by deezNuggets on Aug 17, 2010 12:10 AM MDT up reply actions
If Melo decides to leave,
let’s usher him out as a hero, for a hero’s ransom; not as tradebait.
Suddenly, I’m starting to look forward to this crazy circus.
Rise up, Melo!
by deezNuggets on Aug 17, 2010 12:25 AM MDT up reply actions
I knew this ^^^^ would happen
…..when this article was posted. I’m getting sick and tired of this anxiety surrounding this Melo decision.
I’m going to say this again. We have ONE more year. Regardless. The fans in Cleveland’s reaction to Lebron leaving was going to happen anyway…regardless of that horrifically conceived “decision” program. They cast their lot by being in a constant state of panic regarding Lebron leaving. This is a fact. Their front office screwed them by getting over glorified “role” players like Sideshow Bob and Delonte West and overpaying for said role players.
While the Nuggets are only marginally better….if Melo leaves we can’t say he hasn’t been loyal (after this season it’s will be 8 years). How about we concentrate on the team having a great year regardless of Melo’s intentions
When you try to read minds you will end up being wrong. Let’s just stop this and have a great year.
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Also......the Nuggets official site has more quotes from Melo that mysteriously didn't make the Denver post site
here is ALL that Melo said in this article….and maybe it will give you some comfort.
http://www.nba.com/nuggets/features/nuggets_anthony_20100814.html
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Wow
The Post really cherry picked the quotes, totally different tone in the article above and the one in the paper.
I saw this and I thought
what agenda does the Post have in cherry picking these quotes….I’m serious. You read ALL the quotes and it comes across totally different than what the Post did.
I’m convinced Hochman has an agenda. I heard him on the new sports talk station with Klatt and CJ…..and he even referenced Andrew’s “Yoko” article….which is complete supposition by Andrew. I don’t understand this.
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The Denver Post is a rag
and always will be one. I give more credence to Westword than the Post and that is saying something.
The Post did this to Cutler, Marshall , Scheffler
Now they are after Melo and JR Smith. I guess that’s what doesn’t sell papers these days.
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This is similar to that
Based on this article on the Nuggets site….its sounds like Melo is taking his time and that is it.
In the Post version it sounds like Melo is already gone….
Shoddy journalism
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How is this article any more objective?
It was written by Aaron Lopez. He’s employed by Stan Kroenke. Of course the article is positive on Melo taking his time: Kroenke doesn’t want to drive Melo away when he clearly wants to keep him with a max contract offer on the table that puts asses in the seats and money in his pockets.
by Artimus Mangilord on Aug 17, 2010 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions
It's not
And should be ignored like all the rest including MOST of Andrew’s…
Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
by Big Mickey D on Aug 20, 2010 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Read that earlier
It’s the only article on Carmelo Anthony’s extension situation I actually believe.
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy.
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I would love,
with or without a center, if the Nuggets would play up to the full potential that they showed the last two seasons. I have loved watching it, and if it’s going to be our last year with this core, I want them to show exactly how good a team they really have been all this time.
by deezNuggets on Aug 15, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe, Nohoops4u, now we can see why
you can be referred to as the “HoopzNazi”, if I may borrow that term from Seinfeld!
Its a shame when someone is so bitter & angry at someone they’ve never even met, that they would want to hold them to standards that they themselves could probably never meet or aspire to. The " No Snitching" cameo, and " thousands of innocent women & children" getting beaten every day? Are you really intimating that somehow Melo is to blame for that kinda garbage? Really? I mean what else could he be responsible for- the Kennedy Assassination, or maybe the Hindenburg? Sheesh!
Dude, take a chill pill. Your over-inflated hyperbole is frankly kinda bizarre, & even a little disturbing.
Melo’s a 20-something professional basketball player who because of how & where he grew up, has made mistakes in his life. No one can or should “defend” those mistakes, but this isn’t Ron Artest or Dennis Rodman that we’re talking about here- the kid has matured. Moreover, he’s probably done more for those aforementioned “thousands” in inner-city communities in one hour, than you’ll probably ever do in your lifetime. So please, spare us the sanctimonious hypocrisy. JMHO
In summary, its clear that you post rantings that are " douche-like" in nature, & that clearly have no basis in Melo as he currently exists today. Moreover, they appear to originate from a bitter & antagonistic agenda. Consequently, IMHO, you are a douche…& to paraphrase your namesake….Mr. Hoopz Nazi- “No hoops for you”! JMHO
by VerbalKint on Aug 15, 2010 3:42 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Chill man
You’re honest opinions are kind of unnecessary.Calling fellow Siffs Nazis and douches just because he brings up the point that Melo’s actions of the past havn’t exactly been celebrated doesn’t make him a Nazi.
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by GoldenNugget on Aug 16, 2010 8:11 PM MDT up reply actions
-1 for reductio ad hitlerum
You lose. Godwin’s Law.
by Artimus Mangilord on Aug 17, 2010 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions
OK- no one's calling anyone a "Nazi"-
And maybe I’m aging myself, but if you’ve ever watched Seinfeld, there’s a famous/infamous episode entitled “The Soup Nazi”. The catch phrase of that character happened to be " No soup for you"!
Consequently, I attempted to link "Nohoops4u"’’s tag by paraphrasing to- “The HOOPS Nazi”!
No need for anyone to get over-sensitive & I certainly ain’t going down the Hitler road because of a post on a Nuggets blog.
God, did I REALLY just have to explain that Seinfeld reference???? I’m getting too old for this $h :)
but you are calling him a douche, right?
just giving you a hard time
by deezNuggets on Aug 17, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
I read that wiki link
and wow, it really did happen.
Yeah, I know. I saw that Seinfeld, but I’m pretty sure this still qualifies.
by deezNuggets on Aug 17, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
wow
170 comments and no one wants to address how egregiously offensive this article is? yoko didn’t break up the beatles. four people growing apart from a band they started as teenagers broke up the beatles. janet jones didn’t make gretzky go to la, the oilers traded him because they didn’t want to pay him what he was worth (see king’s ransom sometime.)
if you really want to promote the idea that lala vasquez is a terrible, controlling woman, you’d need better evidence than the fact that she used to be on mtv and she has a twitter. if melo wants to leave denver, then he will, and that’s that, and there will probably be a lot of factors going into that decision.
the idea that mariage turns men into automatons controlled by women who “whip” them is fodder for shitty hollywood movies. you use a fair amount of big words in the piece so i’d think that you might be smarter than that. it sounds like this was written by the one asshole at the bachelor party who keeps asking “why buy the cow?”
by tonycampbellshoutouts on Aug 17, 2010 9:27 AM MDT reply actions
I think many people (me included) found it offensive,
maybe not using that word specifically…
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It's kind of a funny thing.
Yoko Ono really isn’t that bad. She has done her best to protect John Lennon’s legacy. I like how she always writes a letter to Chapman’s parole board asking them to keep him in prison.
The thing that’s funny is how despite everyone’s love for John Lennon, they equally revile Yoko despite the fact that John loved her. So basically, to compare someone’s wife to Yoko pretty much means you don’t like that person yet you are accidentally giving her a compliment.
Heh..Pretty much.
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The Yoko thing may be before many of us were born
WAY before my time. I just gathered that people hated her in the comments and from the post its self.
HATED! Death threats and armed guards STILL!
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by Big Mickey D on Aug 20, 2010 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions
UGH..
I’M TRYING SO HARD NOT TO COMMENT BUT I JUST CANT STAND THE THOUGHT OF HER HAVING ANYTHNG TO DO WITH HIS DECSION. NOT BECUASE I CANT STAND HER BEING,OR HER NEED FOR ATTENTON AND A GOOD BABYSITTER..BUT THE FACT THAT SHE ISNT COMFORTABLE COMING SECOND TO BASKETBALL ..THAT IS MY WORRY AND HOPEFULLY NOT MELO’S!
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