Say it ain't so, Stan...
by Andrew Feinstein on Jun 3, 2010 7:36 AM MDT
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When the news broke Wednesday afternoon that a deal was imminent for Nuggets owner Stanley Kroenke to buy the St. Louis Rams - and thereby be required to jettison the Nuggets thanks to the NFL's stupid cross-ownership rules - the Nuggets "summer of distraction" just got a lot more worrisome.
And here I thought Carmelo Anthony's televised marriage to LaLa Vasquez would be the Nuggets biggest summer distraction.
Kroenke's full acquisition of the Rams (which, it should be noted, is not official yet) has been in the works and in the news for months. But ever since the rumors started circulating, it's been assumed - or, perhaps better worded, hoped - that Kroenke would figure out a way to finagle a deal with the NFL to circumvent their archaic cross-ownership provision. This could be done by having his son Josh or his wife Ann assume ownership of the Nuggets, the optimists thought.
Today's news pointed things in a surprisingly different direction, however. According to The Denver Business Journal's Daniel Kaplan, Kroenke will take over ownership of the Rams and will be given a "grace period" to sell the Nuggets and Avalanche, but not Pepsi Center or the Altitude Network (which, as pointed out by Denver Stiffs reader "Bob in Boulder" makes no sense to a future buyer).
My take? As a fan of a small market team, whenever I hear the word "sell" I automatically get concerned. Denver in particular is the smallest city in America to have teams in all four of the premier professional sports - NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL - which often results in the Nuggets and Avalanche trading off bleeding money for whomever owns them (lately it's been the Avalanche that are a greater financial drain on the collective sports enterprise, but in years past it was our Nuggets who couldn't put asses in the seats). Simply put, under the current economic structure of professional sports it's tough for a market of Denver's size to support two winter teams, but by no means is it impossible.
Regardless of what we're hearing today, it's too early to push the panic button. There are a number of scenarios still in play that could result in Kroenke transferring...errr, selling...ownership in the Nuggets and Avalanche to a family member. And if that scenario isn't viable, Denver remains an attractive enough sports market for a new owner to want to keep both franchises here (Denver multi-billionaire Phil Anschutz, anyone?). Not only is Denver a great sports city, but Pepsi Center is a relatively new facility, the Nuggets have had fairly good attendance recently and the Avalanche are on the upswing. Moreover, the collective bargaining system in the NBA is due to change in 2011, making NBA ownership - in theory - more favorable for the owners getting killed financially under the current structure.
All that said, I don't want to see Kroenke sell the Nuggets as he's been a good owner. I'm admittedly overly scarred by the disastrous era of Peter Bynoe, Bertram Lee, Robert Wussler and Comsat that preceded Kroenke's ownership, but by any reasonable and objective measure Kroenke's stewardship has been solid. Even with Kroenke's recent insistence on frugality, the Nuggets have been one of the more stable organizations since his arrival in 2000. The team has made seven straight playoff appearances, including three straight 50-win seasons, and almost made it to the NBA Finals in 2009. And while we may gripe about the Nuggets fold-like-deck-chairs 2010 playoff performance, this team will likely make an eighth straight playoff appearance in 2011, thus remaining relevant for the longest stretch in franchise history since the latter 1980s.
I had a few brief encounters with Kroenke after games this past season. I'm not sure he knows exactly who I am beyond being just another season ticket holder who occasionally says hello. But each time I've said hello to this titan of pro sports ownership he's been kind and gracious, just as he is with all the fans that approach him pre- and post-game. I wouldn't pretend to know Stan, but I can say for certain that he's a hoops junkie and wants the Nuggets to be a winning franchise on his watch.
I just hope Kroenke loves hoops enough - and Denver hoops in particular - to do whatever it takes to keep the Nuggets in the Mile High City. Stay tuned...
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stan saved pro basketball for denver colorado
it is up to the fans to keep the team here. there are all kinds of crazy things that could happen. the owners of the celtics and clippers switched teams many years ago. the sonics moved to ok city. phil anschutz owns the staples center where the lakers and clippers play. my pick has always been stan’s sister in law nancy fancy and her husband bill laurie. they were trying to buy the team before stan. they refused to sign an agreement with the city of denver to keep the team local for the next 25 years.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
I'd say
Dumars saved basketball in Denver by picking Milicic instead of Melo lol.
by higgyhoops12 on Jun 3, 2010 12:48 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Before Stan, the Nuggets were an absolute mess
Seriously, like Andrew once said in one of his articles before DS moved to SBNation, one of the owners right before him couldn’t even locate where we played, because he didn’t care.
WE NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED AAAAAAAAAANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR BBBBBBBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGG MMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = QPU (Quantum Physics University) #25, and no, it's not because of Anthony Carter.
Antoine Walker will win the 2015 NBA 4-point shooting contest. That's right, I said it first.
Hopefully that gets through...
but if a new owner implodes the team to save $$$ (and that would be easy) it won’t matter.
#26 - Quitters Unite!!!
It was on company property, with company property. So, double jeopardy, we're fine.
Why is your vote for them?
If Nancy and Bill refuse to sign an agreement to keep Nugget basketball in Denver then to hell with them. We need an owner who, come hell or high water, won’t move this franchise.
I'm freaken pumped,I've been drinking green tea all goddamn day! God I go to church every god damn sunday,your going to bring the demons out of me...This is my hat now, this is totaly my hat !
Q.P.U. #Pi
by Joelsopinion on Jun 3, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
???? What?
What universe did that come from?
Stan was not part of the Mutombo years. He bought the Nugs, Avs & Pepsi Center (that was already built before Stan). The bad years were a deliberate salary dump to re-build & they ultimately got Melo et al.
The Nugs, Avs & Pepsi Center were owned by a single entity who sold it to Stan.
The Sonics were a single entity, the owner wanted the city to build a new arena, just like the city did for the Mariners & Seahawks. The city would not, the owner sold the team & the new owner moved the Sonics to OKC.
Apples & Oranges argument, no correlation at all.
"Maxie Miner Rules"
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
Carmelo Anthony saved pro basketball for Denver
People like to forget that around here a lot
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Quitter's People United Member #20
by Zachm219 on Jun 3, 2010 7:37 PM MDT up reply actions 5 recs
this +1 infinity and rec'd
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Matt Daley - He's pretty good
Quitter's People United Member #4
not Carmelo's people of Denver!
#26 - Quitters Unite!!!
It was on company property, with company property. So, double jeopardy, we're fine.
Ahh Hell...
…Not the kind of situation that encourages a young NBA star to re-up. Fingers crossed this works itself out.
Oh, shoot, I didn't even think about it from this perspective.
I am crestfallen(tm PF from PR)
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley has been freed!
Quitter's People United Member #4
Leaving Denver???
Granted having an ownership change is another distraction this summer, but I would say the chances of the Nuggets leaving Denver are slim to none. The Nuggs have a great arena, solid attendance, lots of TV appearances, a popular player in Melo, and a current owner who owns the arena and network where the games are played. Kroenke is too smart a businessman not to ensure that whoever owns the team keeps them playing in his arena and his network. My guess is that son Josh assumes ownership of the team..
Little Joshua
My understanding is that Little Joshua is going to be the primary owner of the Nuggets, while his dad buys the Rams.
How little is Little Joshua?
Because I’m thinking that if I dangle him over a balcony he would sign the franchise over. It worked for Suge Knight.
I'm freaken pumped,I've been drinking green tea all goddamn day! God I go to church every god damn sunday,your going to bring the demons out of me...This is my hat now, this is totaly my hat !
Q.P.U. #Pi
by Joelsopinion on Jun 3, 2010 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, ESK is 63
So I guess Joshua is in his 20s. He graduated from University of Missouri a couple years back (remember, he was like roommates with Kleiza or something)
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = QPU (Quantum Physics University) #25, and no, it's not because of Anthony Carter.
Antoine Walker will win the 2015 NBA 4-point shooting contest. That's right, I said it first.
So you're saying I'll need help
I'm freaken pumped,I've been drinking green tea all goddamn day! God I go to church every god damn sunday,your going to bring the demons out of me...This is my hat now, this is totaly my hat !
Q.P.U. #Pi
Ski masks were 2-for-1 at WallyWorld
I got you covered
by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 3, 2010 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I think this is the first ever conspiracy to hold a grown man over a balcony...
with ski masks
#26 - Quitters Unite!!!
It was on company property, with company property. So, double jeopardy, we're fine.
denver sold out 22 of 41 home dates
that is not solid attendance by any measure. the bulls sold out all home dates AFTER JORDAN LEFT for 10 years. stan could make more money moving the team to st. louis. he could get rid of all the high price players, put a crappy team out on the floor, sell out all the home games and make money. stan never made money on the nuggets. there is tremendous overhead with any nba team. he could make a profit with lacrosse and roller derby. nuggets have been a money pit and a financial black hole.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
Where would they build an arena?
East St. Louis? No way St. Louis would go gaga for an NBA team the way OKC has. That’s crazy talk.
by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 3, 2010 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
scottrade center - home of the nhl blues
was opened in 1994 and seats 19,000+ for hockey. it is located in downtown st. louis. basketball can hold 22,000. the city of st. louis has had hockey since 1967. the chairman of the blues is dave checketts. he was the former cheif executive of madison square garden, which owns the rangers and knicks. back in the 1970’s the owners of the celtics and clippers switched teams. st. louis had the nfl cardinals. they located to arizona. people thought the nfl rams locating to st. louis was crazy talk too. walter payton of the bears tried to get an expansion franchise but it was awarded to jacksonville instead. baseball, football and basketball are way more popular than hockey. hockey has been there for over 40 years. atlanta hawks were in st. louis before moving. i can see a scenario of the nuggets moving to st. louis and stan swapping the avs for the blues. HOW IS THAT FOR CRAZY TALK!
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
You're rambling again, grandpa
Your first three sentences suffice…
R.I.P. Sweetness
by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 3, 2010 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions
bill and nancy laurie once owned the st. louis blues
dave checketts is mormon. he went to the university of utah and graduated from brigham young university. at the age of 28 he became the president and general manager of the utah jazz.. if he is going to run a hockey team he would prefer to do it in his home state’s back yard. checketts wrote a book called THE MORMON WAY OF DOING BUSINESS. i will spell it out for a naive dumb ass punk like you that does not know how the world of big business works. the walton sisters and their husbands take the nuggets to st. louis. they trade hockey teams with the mormon. larry miller the owner of the jazz died a year ago. the name of checketts company is called sports capital partners worldwide. they own the salt lake pro soccer team. what you have left is a mormon business coalition that has the rocky mountain region all to it self for hockey and basketball. these are business people and the bottom line is making money.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
I appreciate your attempt to spell it out
clear as mud
by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 3, 2010 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions
That scenario is simply conjecture based
In the interest of business, it would be more profitable to keep the hockey team with a more solid fanbase (the blues) then to trade it for the 4th most popular professional team in a city, especially when the fanbase knows you’re the reason they just lost their basketball team. It’s an interesting thought, building one rocky mountain professional sports empire, but selling the Blues for the Avs doesn’t make a whole lot of business sense, even travel costs will be roughly the same (not that they matter to sports owners anyways)
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Quitter's People United Member #20
lol +1
based on his writing i’m not sure if he’s a grandpa or a 4 year old.
yeah and once they have hockey and basketball in the rocky mountain region
I hear they’re going to being their conquest to take over the world…
and JFK was killed by a magic bullet too
*going to begin
sorry, I was too excited to point out how foolish your comment was and spelled something wrong.
lolz, fail.
P.S. I’m scared of a Mormon takeover of Denver sports. Have you been over to SLC Dunk?? those guys are ridiculous. I would never accept that, I would have to become a fan of the Longhorns and USC at the same time, I would root for the Lakers and Celtics to both win a championship in the same year, just so David Stern could cream himself, oh and go Yankees you haven’t won enough championships yet!!!!! and GOD how the eff does anyone watch the finals and not throw their shoe at the TV!?!?!? 32 total championships and a guaranteed 33rd!!! This sport is rigged….sad face
#26 - Quitters Unite!!!
It was on company property, with company property. So, double jeopardy, we're fine.
dave checkettes wanted to buy the st. louis rams in 2009
he had a business partner born in Missouri that wanted to be a co- owner. his name is rush limbaugh.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
That's some pretty decent crazy talk there nohhops
Next time raise the bars and speak in tongues.
I'm freaken pumped,I've been drinking green tea all goddamn day! God I go to church every god damn sunday,your going to bring the demons out of me...This is my hat now, this is totaly my hat !
Q.P.U. #Pi
Possibly Kansas City
Just because they haven’t had an NBA team for 45 years and David Stern is commish
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = QPU (Quantum Physics University) #25, and no, it's not because of Anthony Carter.
Antoine Walker will win the 2015 NBA 4-point shooting contest. That's right, I said it first.
The commish....maybe they could make a TV show about his escapades!
#26 - Quitters Unite!!!
It was on company property, with company property. So, double jeopardy, we're fine.
Let's try to put some realism in the Chicken Little Argument
So far the only argument I’ve seen is trying to play the “Sonics” card. Entirely different situation. The Nugs have a profitable arena they play in. A new owner can’t play the “I need a new arena card”…. errrr sorry that argument was resolved & built….BS (before Stan)
Plus, the believe it when you see it… Stan, like him or hate him, is not selling the team.
"Maxie Miner Rules"
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
Thanks for the ref Andrew! If I’m some bazillionaire like Anschutz I only buy the whole Denver sports empire, not just the Avs and Nugs so I can continue to earn money for Stan. So to me this only makes sense if he transfers ownership to a family member.
Quitter's People United Member #33
"I am a business major in college after all." - One MHR commenter's rationale for knowing more about the Denver Broncos than I do. LOL.
from the Post
http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_15214932
"Straight Cash Homey" Moss, Randy
Stan should take the Nuggets to St.Louis
How ’bout it? The St. Louis Nuggets?
Makes you want to watch them, eh? Lol!
Everyone has a right to be stupid. I just abuse the privilege.
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
top 10 new names for the nuggets when they move to st. louis
10. st. louis stans. 9. st. louis louie louies. 8. st. louis leapers. 7. st. louis lunatics. 6. st. louis slurpees. 5. st. louis gateway arches. 4. st. louis 5 goal tacos. 3. st. louis lauries. 2. st. louis golden bretts. 1. st. louis stogies.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
Those have got to be the worst names ever.
Everyone has a right to be stupid. I just abuse the privilege.
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
He's being sarcastic
How about the St. Louis Cellar Dwellers?
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = QPU (Quantum Physics University) #25, and no, it's not because of Anthony Carter.
Antoine Walker will win the 2015 NBA 4-point shooting contest. That's right, I said it first.
I know that
I stand by what I said though
Tim Tebow is the LeBron James of the NFL
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
Well if recent history is indicative of naming
teams, I expect
St. Louis Arches
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley has been freed!
Quitter's People United Member #4
or the Missouri Show-mes
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley has been freed!
Quitter's People United Member #4
I hate the name Golden Brett
That’s borderline blasphemy if you ask me. As good as Brett was, never should he be confused with his father who was a top ten all time player.
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Quitter's People United Member #20
Interesting
Isn’t Kroenke just saying he’s more concerned about football than the Nuggets by buying the Rams knowing the whole deal with the cross-ownership thing? That’s kind of what I draw out of it. If that’s the case then I would love to have a new owner who’s willing to spend to win a title (ie: the Nets new owner Mikhail Prokhorov). Of course that’s not guaranteed, but it’s a nice bright spot to consider through all this.
"Jive turkey is a little over the line my man!"
"I'm kinda grumpy today, dude. I didn't get a lot of sleep last night. I was having those dreams again. Ya know, how it's just me in a castle and I gotta fight, like, a thousand wizards and the only way to beat them is to punch them as hard as I can in their faces. Then, when I'm done, all their little wizard wives came out and wanted me to have sex with them - which is kinda weird."
Hmmm
I think a few of you are over-reacting. I don’t think Stan’s intentions are to buy the Rams and to simply move the Nuggets to St Louis. The Cardinals own that town. Stan is doing just fine in Denver.
Chill out..
There's a reason there's no NBA ball in St. Louis
It doesn’t sell there.
Any NBA team at risk of going to St. Louis would not be the Nugs it would be whatever team not connected to the hip with a NHL franchise. (MLB, NFL, NHL already in St. Louis) A stand alone NBA team… or an expansion team would be placed there.
Considering of course, Stan could get ownership of the St. Louis Blues… or are the Ave at risk of moving there too?
"Maxie Miner Rules"
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
BTW EssentialCo.... word!!!
I agree.
"Maxie Miner Rules"
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
Stan's Master Plan... redux
It’s all part of Stan’s master plan He wants to be the uber-owner, NBA, NHL, NFL, European Soccer, Pepsi Center, Altitude TV, it’s all one package, so he’ll do and try anything to make it all work. Selling NBA & NHL in order to become a majority NFL owner in St. Louis is not part of his plan.
The Mrs. Stan or Son of Stan becoming Nug/Avs owner is a complete sham and everyone knows it. The only question is whether the NFL powers that be can pretend it’s a legit transfer long enough without giggling until the ink dries.
Buyer beware alert. When Stan is successful, his ownership style will not change; meaning financial profit over team success… even at the cost of a title. If you’re good with that then that’s cool. But that’ll also has a trickle down effect in player acquisitions & FA signings for all teams. There’s a reason why quality FA role players who care about winning a title (Michael Finley is a recent example) go to other teams rather then the Nugs… it’s because the word is out that this franchise will not do what it takes to win a title. So unless a FA is on a money grab they have no reason to consider the Nugs.
My bottom line is I respect honesty a whole lot more than propaganda. The garbage the coach & FO have been shoveling has been lame for a few years. If the team, owner on down simply admitted what they’re strategy was rather than pretending the fans are gullible, I would respect them for that.
Like it, hate it, buy it, sell it… that’s Stanley’s world. The teams will be managed financially sound but no guarantee on success or entertainment… you know kind of like buying a ticket to go watch Microsoft
Making a request, can we give the Nugs to Mrs Stan rather the Son of Stan? If you ever wondered why the Nugs made the draft night trade for Linus Kleiza??? It’s because him & Son of Stan were college roommates. I really don’t want Son of Stan to bring back Kleiza in a huge contract extension…. Cool, we get it he’s your bud, light a candle and visit him in Greece & enjoy the beaches when you go visit him!!!
"Maxie Miner Rules"
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
The plan according to the NY Timesis
for Kroenke to give a majority share of the Nugs/Avs to his wife or son, then complete 60% purchase of Rams owns 40% already. This would technically get around the NFL’s cross-ownership rules and was used successfully in the past to walk-the-line on this rule
My name is the One...
If this is the case....
Why is everyone panicking?
It’s OK, people. I think the chances of the team moving are close to nil. And I think the lack of a big man is a far greater concern than any ownership issues right now. Granted, not knowing who controls the purse strings will make it slightly more difficult to get someone in, but I don’t think it is that big an issue.
Oh: What’s up, Nuggets fans?
Quitters people united, member no. ∞
Infinite quit
by Fly Agaric on Jun 4, 2010 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
THANK YOU
Nugs aren’t going anywhere
by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 4, 2010 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions
+1
is it just me, or is there a lot of unnecessary panic (about the Nuggets) going about these days?
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Quitter's People United Member #20
It's because we have nothing better to do...
Tim Tebow is the LeBron James of the NFL
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
Rockies baseball man!
Ubaldo could win 25 games this year
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Quitter's People United Member #20
But baseball would still be boring.
Quitter's People United Member #33
"I am a business major in college after all." - One MHR commenter's rationale for knowing more about the Denver Broncos than I do. LOL.
by Bob in Boulder on Jun 4, 2010 3:03 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1, but Ubaldo is killin it!
#26 - Quitters Unite!!!
It was on company property, with company property. So, double jeopardy, we're fine.
You're forgetting something
I live in Reno. It’s all Giants and A’s over here.
Unless I move to Montana, then I have nothing. :[
Tim Tebow is the LeBron James of the NFL
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
Man don't be saying Giants & A's
Native Denverites still remember the days of the A’s moving to Denver.
"Maxie Miner Rules"
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
I remember this. It was quite a fiasco
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Matt Daley - He's pretty good
Quitter's People United Member #4
What are you guys talking about?
Tim Tebow is the LeBron James of the NFL
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
Back in the day, the A's were being touted
as moving to Denver. Long before the Rox were born
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Matt Daley - He's pretty good
Quitter's People United Member #4
I am a native Boulderite and I guess I am too young?
i’m 28 and don’t ’member this. Link?
#26 - Quitters Unite!!!
It was on company property, with company property. So, double jeopardy, we're fine.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=348&dat=19780406&id=7lcjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yzIDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1892,4094308
Ubaldo Jimenez-That is all
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Matt Daley - He's pretty good
Quitter's People United Member #4
Because what Kroenke wants to do is against all the ownership rules
So there’s a lot of posturing and pissing contests going on until someone blinks (ewww, pissing and blinking together… bad image)
Kroenke is betting on the NFL owners blinking first.
For Yogi’s sake this truly is one of those “it ain’t over til it’s over” thangs!!!
"Maxie Miner Rules"
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
Pissing and blinking
Kronke is R. Kelly
I'm freaken pumped,I've been drinking green tea all goddamn day! God I go to church every god damn sunday,your going to bring the demons out of me...This is my hat now, this is totaly my hat !
Q.P.U. #Pi
by Joelsopinion on Jun 7, 2010 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome...
Your. Seattle. NUGGETS!!!
With head coach George Karl!
—
Noooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
Has this been the plan all along?!?
Announcer voice: (Will the Nuggets stay in Denver? Will Carmelo choose the silver or the blues trim for his cake? Will Seattle embrace AC like the fans of Denver have? Stay Tuned! Only time will tell…)
NATE OR ANDREW!!!
now that i got your attention… can you allow comments in the offseason thread again, if you don’t then we’re gna get a shitload of new fanposts about trades and stuff…
Your wish is my command ... it's up and running again!
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by Nate Timmons on Jun 4, 2010 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks Nate
you are the genie of Denverstiffs. Next, could you please send all the single members of this site beautiful, intelligent and witty partners who are also incredibly rich but humble? Thanks a bunch!
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
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Ditto for sending female members good looking, witty, intelligent and able to cook men
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Matt Daley - He's pretty good
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I fall into all those categories SCcat
I , however, to not suffice in other areas you may need…./cough
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"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple
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on another note.....I expect Nate to do the same for me. lol
"Groovy" Ash from Evil Dead 2
"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple
Quitter's People United Member # 78
lol! awesome
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Matt Daley - He's pretty good
Quitter's People United Member #4
And this is the story of my life!
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Yep, proving y'all wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Matt Daley - He's pretty good
Quitter's People United Member #4
Right after I send myself the winning Powerball numbers...
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Nuggets arent going anywhere guys
I keep saying this….Stan doesn’t want to give up the Nuggets. I get the feeling, however, he may consider giving up the Avs
Thats just a hunch though
"Groovy" Ash from Evil Dead 2
"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple
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The Avs would be a good buy for a prospective owner
A lot of good young (read “cheap”) talent.
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Infinite quit
Let's Pool our Money together
and see if we can come up with a lucrative offer
by ndrwbrgr on Jun 4, 2010 2:46 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
We will only have to come up with a little
Nate can cover the rest because he is about to win powerball
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
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I got like $1k in the bank, that enough?
#26 - Quitters Unite!!!
It was on company property, with company property. So, double jeopardy, we're fine.
Can I sell my nuggets fan-dom?
seems ironic enough
#26 - Quitters Unite!!!
It was on company property, with company property. So, double jeopardy, we're fine.
I bet Stan will just "sell" the team to his Son.
Hey I was right!
by InboundingLobPass on Jun 8, 2010 4:45 PM MDT reply actions
there is more to it then that
what has happened already- nfl will allow stan to buy the majority of the rams BEFORE he sells the hockey and basketball teams. the nfl would NOT allow his wife to own the nuggets AND allow stan to buy the majority of the rams. STAN has an agreement in place with the city of denver HE would not move the team for 25 years. stan transfers ownership the new owner would not have that legal obligation.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
C'mon Mr Rain Cloud
I’m sure the Nuggets and Avs aren’t going anywhere. Besides the sound of the St. Louis Nuggets sounds horrible. I mean who will their mascott be Archie the Arch? That’s dumb…just dumb enough to work. We’re screwed.
I'm freaken pumped,I've been drinking green tea all goddamn day! God I go to church every god damn sunday,your going to bring the demons out of me...This is my hat now, this is totaly my hat !
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by Joelsopinion on Jun 9, 2010 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions
the devil is in the details
right now KSE is trying to sell season tickets. no way will they tip their hand to any future plans. stan’s wife is a billionaire in her own right. there are huge tax consequences with changing ownership of any pro sports team. buying the team is one thing. josh kroenke does not have the money to buy the team on his own. stan GIVES him the team the IRS will have something to say about it. stan’s agreement is with denver. stan owns the building but not the land that the pepsi center sits on. the hoosier dome was built in 1984 and demolished in 2007. life span was 24 years. pepsi center was completed in 1999. it is about half way through it’s practical usefulness. you can bet there are plans on the drawing board for another future use.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
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