The book is out on Denver (Game 4 recap)
by Nate Timmons on Apr 25, 2010 10:38 PM MDT
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The Utah Jazz have drawn up the blueprint on how to beat the Denver Nuggets and they once again executed it taking a commanding 3-1 series lead. The depleted Jazz are now just one win away from eliminating the Nuggets from the first round of the 2010 playoffs ... can you feel it?
Through four games in this series the one clear thing ... the Utah Jazz are kicking the Nuggets' asses. They say the better team often wins a seven game series and the Utah Jazz are a better team than the Denver Nuggets. You know things are bad when Scott Hastings is glowing about the opposition in the games closing minutes as Utah won tonight's game 117-106.
You can argue until you are powder blue in the face about which team has more talent, but clearly the better team is the Jazz. Let us count the ways ...
1. ) Coaching: It all starts right here. The Jazz in Game 1 played more of the Utah Jazz style we are used to ... setting up designed plays on offense via their point guard that take a little time to develop and looking for the open shooter. Well, after losing Game 1 the Jazz changed their style. My buddy Rich says the Jazz adopted the Phoenix Suns offense against Denver, meaning they are getting quick offensive possessions. While I was telling him that Deron Williams is just utilizing what lots of point guards do in small stretches versus Denver ... get out in transition and attack the basket. Kudos to Jerry Sloan for exploiting Denver in many ways and putting his team in the best position to win every game.
For Denver ... well, without George Karl the Nuggets are obviously lost. Again, if I'm Karl I laugh at the measly one-year extension that Denver tendered to him and he previously signed. Karl never should have signed that deal because if he was a free agent after this season he could hold out for a King's Ransom from Silent Stan Kroenke as acting coach Adrian Dantley has made Karl look vital.
Dantley couldn't figure out that Ty Lawson is an asset, had no clue when or how to motivate his team as Denver got basically worse in every game this series and Dantley was hopeless getting the officials to adjust to his team's style or getting his team to adjust to the refs style (not totally sure how that bullshit works and I'm not sure why the Nuggets can't figure out how not to foul and complain when they don't get calls they want).
2.) Competing: Where is Denver's competitive fire? In Games 3 and 4 the Nuggets were resigned to letting the Jazz kick their ass. I know that if I'm getting smoked on the basketball court I'm going to fight with all I have to get back into the game. The Jazz have developed a swagger and certain cockiness as the series has progress that they will impose their will on the Nuggets and it happened again tonight right when Denver held a lead ... with the score 18-13 Denver the Jazz stole momentum and went on a 18-7 run to close the first quarter and never looked back. The Nuggets on the flipside have turned into a lifeless bunch that let the Jazz make predictable runs and let themselves get run down, run over and run right out of Utah.
Last season we saw Denver develop the swagger and the cockiness winning teams have, but this post-season we have not seen the same body language and chemistry from the Nuggets that we did last season. The Jazz seem to enjoy playing together and I don't think these Nuggets do. This just isn't the same team from even earlier this season. Tonight the Jazz just jumped out to 10 and 20 point leads without Denver even really flinching ... as if they are as resigned as I am to their losing ways.
In the fourth quarter tonight the Nuggets were down 86-71. The Nuggets put up a bit of a fight, but they had to have everything go absolutely perfect to overcome that 15 point deficit. You have to care for a full 48 minutes and the Nuggets did not.
3.) Defense: Can you name the Jazz's best shot blocker? Neither can I and you know why ... BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A SINGLE SHOT BLOCKER! The Nuggets have had to work for most of their shots in this series and they had to work hard for open shots tonight, but even when they got good looks tonight they didn't convert (blah!).
The Nuggets did a poor job tonight of getting to the rim, not traveling once they got there or committing some other violation. On the flip side ... I think I could take the rock coast-to-coast on the Nuggets. We heard the Lakers were too big for the Nuggets ... so what are the Jazz? Too small for the Nuggets? Carlos Boozer, Paul Millsap, CJ Miles and even Wesley Matthews looked like the bizarro world science project love childs of Wilt Chamberlain and Moses Malone tonight and throughout the series. None of those players listed are taller than 6'8'' (I don't care what Boozer and Millsap are listed at). The Nuggets let the Jazz turn the game and the series into a damn layup line for anyone willing to attack the rim. So the Lakers bigs are too big and the Jazz "bigs" have more desire.
I remember last season when teams drove on the Nuggets, the team sent a message with some hard fouls that the paint was Denver's territory and if they dared to enter they'd pay the price. In this series, I wouldn't be concerned at all to have my buddy let his 2-year-old daughter stand in the paint during a play ... the only concern, a Jazz foot landing on her after yet another lay in.
Not sure whether to put this under coaching or defense, but how many points could Deron Williams score if he just went coast-to-coast on every possession ... 100, 200? Where is the adjustment to Williams' transition bullrush? I got pretty sick of watching it, but either the coaching staff is clueless on how to stop it or the players just refuse to use any type of hustle in transition ... maybe it's a combo of both. As I've mentioned before ... Russell Westbrook kills Denver in transition, but he doesn't stay consistent ... Williams has stolen that page out of Westbrook's book and it's KILLING the Nuggets.
4.) Offense: This sort of ties into the above point, but Denver's shooting tonight was just awful. Denver found success when they drove the lane, but they just didn't do enough of what was needed to win the game. Passing on the road continues to be taboo for the Nuggets and if you are asking why Denver draws so many offensive fouls it's because they refuse to share the damn ball and too many dribbles leaves you exposed to charges and costly turnovers.
Carmelo Anthony put up 19 first half points and looked like the only guy who cared about playing hard and actually winning in the first half, but his one-man show was just not enough. Ty Lawson played a bulk of early fourth quarter minutes and showed once again he is very effective, but until he develops a deadly outside shot his game is a touch limited. Lawson 's defender often sags off on him and if he can start dropping shots in their face then his game will grow by leaps and bounds a la Tony Parker.
The Jazz are just too much and have Denver's number.
As tonight's game came down the streatch the Nuggets were able to cut the lead to 98-90 and they drew a touch of hope, but again with such a poor during the game ... having to overcome your mistakes is just too much. Also, Utah just need a bad possession here or there and again their huge lead would be safe. A K-Mart missed put-back dunk and a Billups foul on Williams allowed what could have become a 6-point game or less to quicly turn back into a double-digit lead.
Where do the Nuggets go from here? Last season when the Lakers turned the series around the Nuggets came home to Denver and got their asses handed to them on their home floor and the series was over. What can we expect from the Nuggets down 1-3? I said in the preview that this game would show us Denver's heart. I don't see much heart from this team and I don't see much desire or any sense of urgency to win.
I'm not expecting a miracle comeback from the Nuggets and it's looking like my 5 game series prediction could very well come true, but unfortunately I picked the wrong team to come out and dominate this series.
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Et tu, Nate?
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Well I'll give AD credit for this
he said you should know Utah will flop, other than that go screw yourself AD.
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damnit SD i guess it's just you and me left
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I think jpage78, and maybe Uh will be with us
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Here I am
Too busy posting a rant in pictures.
I’m still optimistic, but at the same time realistic.
i'm still here
and i’m not giving up. fuck that. there’s still a game to be played.
YAY!!! Melo's People of Denver Stiffs FTW!!!
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Daley for Closer!!
only one quitter can unite the world
i swear, he should have his own religion after going down swinging like that
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I think the new tagline for DS
should be
Denver Stiffs – The Quitter’s People United
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i love it, nate, andrew think about this
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every post would start with
“TWSS”
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
Or
Quitting is for Stiffs
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
you ain't a stiff if you ain't quittin"
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oooo...I like
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Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
minor addition,,, in honor of Chauncye
“You ain’t a Stiff, if you ain’t quittin’, Man”
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
you know i feel better despite the lost
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no kidding..
I will drink his blue Kool Aid anyday….
err…that sounds cree.p.
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
heh
watch out, Teblow might show up
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
hey we even accept QB's who can't throw
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lol..
He’ll definitely feel blessed to be here
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Daley for Closer!!
I heard this the other day
but he should be thankful to be in Denver as he is now one mile closer to god haha
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions
i will always stick with the nuggets to the end!
Defence wins games, if you hold a team to under 100 points and you score over 100 points, you almost always win.
Welcome to
“The Quitter’s People United!”
here is your Stiff pin
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thank you sir!
Defence wins games, if you hold a team to under 100 points and you score over 100 points, you almost always win.
that's Ms. or Ma'am :)
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my mistake.
Thank you Ma’am
Defence wins games, if you hold a team to under 100 points and you score over 100 points, you almost always win.
excellent!
but I have to Thursty you …
you need an apostrophe
should be Quitter’s
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I think you should add another line to your sig
“What Would Brian Boitano Do?
Quit!”
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:31 PM MDT up reply actions
maybe we should all be
Member 15
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i say we're 1 and 2 since we did kinda made it up
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but to fair...shouldn't ACEIII
be member 1, considering his whole quitting rant started the whole thing..
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true dat true dat i'll take 3 for BLURR!!!!!
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i wanna be Member #7
Defence wins games, if you hold a team to under 100 points and you score over 100 points, you almost always win.
Dibs member #19,
If #15 is already taken, that is.
by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:35 PM MDT up reply actions
member 15...Melo is number 15
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Well peeps
you need to add that in the sigs or else we can’t keep track.
Quitter's People United member # 42
I dunno
I was actually thinkin’ of 11 considering I’m backing Andersen up so much.
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He'd quit and eat a Twinkie with Charles Barkley
ill change mine now!
Defence wins games, if you hold a team to under 100 points and you score over 100 points, you almost always win.
i don't need a tag it was my brain child
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We can be co-presidents
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Daley for Closer!!
awesome
My problem is that if I add to my sigline. Purple Rower’s will hassle me a bit
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i got mine now
QUITTER'S PEOPLE UNITED # 3
a proud follower of pickaxes, the star, and the almighty cervelli\
Same here
With a little Barkley included
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He'd quit and eat a Twinkie with Charles Barkley
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methinks you should switch
proud and quitters ;)
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should've added a 5 buck box instead of a twinkie
the 5 buck box it rox it rox
QUITTER'S PEOPLE UNITED # 3
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Dr Suess would like his rhyming back
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The other blog I post at will be confused
but I must sacrifice for the good of the nation, plus maybe the PR members will catch quitting fever.
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I'm going for obscure
Proud Quitter’s People United member #2
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Wait, hold the phone
Wouldn’t Nate and Andrew be numbers 1 and 2?
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He'd quit and eat a Twinkie with Charles Barkley
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well, I did think about this
but I just figured they would be neutral…to a degree. But this is a fair question
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maybe they could be the sponsors
QUITTER'S PEOPLE UNITED # 3
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This is fair
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Ok, mine is there now
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by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:48 PM MDT up reply actions
okay done
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Tulo! Nice
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by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions
ha. well done!
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Number 12 has been added to signature
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This whole thread is really quite hilarious
and we have ACE to thank in a completely bizarre way
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Just like we have Thursty to thank for "Thursty'd"
These guys are such unwittingly great contributors
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Sure
Who’s #27? Kyle Quincey?
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by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Greg Smith or Garrett Atkins
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Oh, how could I forget GA?
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by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions
I hope he turns it around in Baltimore
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Hello? 2006? 2007?
I could never forget the magical times we had together.
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by airforcefoo on Apr 26, 2010 12:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah well 2009 is freshest in my memory
and Stewie is making me forget quickly, btw how awesome would a half Avs jersey/half Rockies jersey with the name Stewart on it be?
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Too bad one is 9 and the other is 25
Nothing will ever work as well as the Royker jersey, with both guys being #33.
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by airforcefoo on Apr 26, 2010 12:10 AM MDT up reply actions
how lame are we...poor Petro
well done
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Oh yeah. I'm really bad with player numbers
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by airforcefoo on Apr 26, 2010 12:01 AM MDT up reply actions
I propose we retire number 15
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I changed my to member #4
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Adrian Dantley?
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He'd quit and eat a Twinkie with Charles Barkley
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fffffffffffffffffffff
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who's 2?
QUITTER'S PEOPLE UNITED # 3
a proud follower of pickaxes, the star, and the almighty cervelli\
nobody's giving up
I’m in until utah wins 4 games. but I can’t delude myself into thinking we have much of a shot.
by Rainbow skyline on Apr 25, 2010 11:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd like to note that this comment spawned well over 100 more
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by airforcefoo on Apr 26, 2010 12:22 AM MDT up reply actions
well, what now?
well, unfortunately i thought this was the year. im speechless at the moment…im gona go cry myself to sleep…maybe tomorrow ill comment or post…im done..
by rickyestrada15 on Apr 25, 2010 10:43 PM MDT reply actions
fuck
go nuggets. whatever happens happens. thats all theres left to say
at least you are saying Go Nuggets!
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The most promising thing about this game was the finish
THe last 8 mins showed what it will take to beat the Utah Jazz. I just really hope they remember and play it out that on Wednesday and force a game 6
I agree with everything Webber is saying
which feels wrong, oh and Charles just through out the “turrible”!
Proud member of Thuggetz nation.
Dantley's dream is dead
He will never coach the Utah Jazz. The way we are being outclassed and out-executed this series is appalling. If you just watched his press conference, it’s all over his face – AD is defeated. It’s over for him. Those hopes and dreams of being a great head coached crushed in front of a worldwide audience
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The End of an "Era"
How embarrasing, how shameful…this was a team faced with some serious adversity this year and, rather than rise above it, this team has fallen apart. It’s no wonder George Karl has such a hard time watching this team from his home while recovering from a grave illness.
This looks very similar to the team that sucked in the playoffs during Anthony’s first years in the league. And, unfortunately for Anthony and many fans of this team over the past few years, it’s going to be time to shake some shit up after this series ends in the coming week.
I think Webber and Charles
are going to have fisticuffs
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Daley for Closer!!
Solid recap nate
But really? no mention of the fact that melo should have only had 3 fouls (tops)?
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Melo single handedly kept us in this game
and Webber calls him out for lack of assists….
Chris, I used to respect you
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WOW. .. AD Called Out Melo in the Press Conference
He said Melo’s 9 turnovers were the problem and that he has to play better. I sense a locker room implosion prior to Game 5.
AD was barely holding it together during that thing
It was so weird man, I thought he was close to breaking down or just totally freaking out during that thing It was one of the weirdest public appearances I’ve ever seen. AD is done man, he should be relieved
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by runningdonut on Apr 25, 2010 10:53 PM MDT up reply actions
maybe he wants out altogether
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AD is Clearly in Over His Head
He keeps saying offense is the problem, which it is, but what about the D?
Seriously he is about to throw in the towel here
I am pretty sure that he even knows not to throw your star player, who is the only reason you were in the game, under the bus. Apparently not
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 10:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe he's having an anxiety attack
or Melo chewed him out for being a bad coach…so he acted in retribution?
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Anxiety and stress
I thought he even cussed and just looked so annoyed. Just totally folding under the pressure. The reporters must have known something was up
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by runningdonut on Apr 25, 2010 11:02 PM MDT up reply actions
He did cuss, said shit
It was on NBAtv too.
LOL
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by runningdonut on Apr 25, 2010 11:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Change the name of the site to.
putdantleyinasylum.com
wow is right
Melo had that many turnovers because he was the only one playing. He was trying, at least.
he needs to back of melo, turn around and call everybody else
melo couldn’t have quit harder
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Melo needs to bitchslap AD
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slap him as many points he got. 39 for today's game.
Maybe that will wake the son of a bitch up.
Heh
Good work AD. Respect for him pretty much gone.
Hopefully he also called out the guys who actually deserved to get called out?
He should have called everybody else out
Carmelo was the only reason why they had a chance in the game. What an idiot!
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I'll finish the recap for you
5) Referees.
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
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by Uh on Apr 25, 2010 10:53 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Yes, I know the Nuggets did not play well
But the refereeing was, in my opinion anyway, very poor. Poor enough to sway the outcome of the game. I get that I’m in the minority, and I know the Nuggets shouldnt’ve needed the refs’ help or anything, but what I saw was an unfairly reffed game, and I’m disappointed by that.
I agree, there were a few calls that swayed the home team's way, but that's always the case when you're at home.
Blaming the refs for this loss and the loss in Game 3 is a fan’s way of avoiding actually coming to grips with the real problems with this team.
Blame something else every time and you’ll never get to the root of the ACTUAL porblem.
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 25, 2010 11:05 PM MDT up reply actions
There were several that I saw
In any case, I never said Game 3 was a result of the refs. That was just poor play by everyone involved (on the Denver side, anyhow).
But like I said, I am aware that the non-Melo non-Blur Nuggets played very poorly today. There was no passing, the defense was sketchy at best. I understand the problems with this team, and I’ve come to accept them. I can’t do anything about that as a fan. I do expect, however, that the refs call a fair game. In Game 2, the Nugs were screwed over. Now in Game 4, the Nugs were screwed over.
I’m not putting all the blame on the refereeing, as I mentioned. If the five or six bad calls were reversed, we could be talking about a very different outcome.
So you're not putting the blame on the refereeing, yet you're implying that if 5 or 6 "bad calls" would have been called the way YOU would have liked, the outcome would have been different?
Why try to hide feelings with a veil?
The refs are going to be blamed for this loss, just like in Game 2 and the real issues with this team (lack of passion, lack of focus and horrible shooting at key points in the game and a total disregard of defense) are going to be glossed over for another season and Nuggets fans will still be able to cheer for “Birdman”, “JR Swish”, “K-Mart” and another season of unfulfilled promise.
This team SHOULD be better and it’s not and it’s the TEAM’S fault, regardless of GK or AD running the ship.
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 25, 2010 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions
you have no idea what George Karl
means to this team.
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Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
He's a jackass
Let him watch his whiny coach and star bully their way past the 8th seed
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Yes, yes..... because GK never has anything "whiny" to say during a presser and it's a bad thing that the Lakers played well enough all season to get the #1 seed and play the 8.
And I’m a jackass why? Do you know me well enough to call me a jackass?
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 25, 2010 11:31 PM MDT up reply actions
You are a Lakers fan
On a Nuggets board at 1:32 am Monday morning.
I know enough
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Uh....... In LA it's 10:30. And I've actually been here since 9 since I was on the game thread.
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 25, 2010 11:36 PM MDT up reply actions
No, I do understand. It's a HUGE blow to the team. Not having your head coach is a big deal.
But I don’t understand how putting this on AD makes any sense.
This team has been making the same mistakes, taking the same ill-advised shots and lack of interest in defense since the WCF’s last season.
Like I wrote before, this team should have played with a chip on it’s shoulder all season after getting bounced from a WCF’s they felt they should have won and instead the meandered through the season and backed in to the division title and it didn’t matter who was coaching during it.
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 25, 2010 11:30 PM MDT up reply actions
They did until the biggest Chipper went down with cancer
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Daley for Closer!!
That's only been the case these past 6 weeks or so
Nuggets flew out of the gate, and did have that chip on their shoulder damn near til the all-star break.
I think alot can be said about the absence of GK
"I know the game of basketball is one-on-one (oriented), but the pain of beating a defense by the pass — it confuses and frustrates the defense more than just going by a guy one-on-one." George Karl
by NuggetsLife on Apr 25, 2010 11:36 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree that some of it can be traced directly to not having GK, but the fundamental issues I wrote have always been there with this squad, dating back to last year when GK was still healthy and in charge.
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 25, 2010 11:42 PM MDT up reply actions
He's saying that the Nuggets should've done more to win,
but the refs still affected the outcome. Those two points are not mutually exclusive.
by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:24 PM MDT up reply actions
You are really starting to annoy me.
Every single comment you’ve made is blatantly anti-Nuggets. THIS IS A NUGGETS BLOG. You don’t have to be argumentative like this.
You act like you know more about the Nuggets than I do, and it is getting tiresome. Stop, seriously.
Do you think you're the only one who watches the Nuggets and has an opinion on them? Do you think I don't have the ability to be a "fan" of more than one team?
Try not to look into my profile and see the Lakers as my favorite team and assume I’m “bad-mouthing” your squad.
I’m a fan of BASKETBALL and a loyal Nugget watcher since last season when your squad gave my favorite team all that it could handle in the WCF’s.
Grow up, Uh. I’m not “attacking” your team. I’ve giving my opinion just like everyone else here.
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 25, 2010 11:35 PM MDT up reply actions
You are trying to antagonize people on this board
Do you see people from here going over to the Lakers’ board and saying “Stop blaming your players’ heart. The Thunder were the better team.”
No.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Tan, I wouldn't care if anyone did.
These are PUBLIC FORUMS and as so, are open to everyone.
If you really think me giving my opinion (which actually is pretty much in line with what some other “real” Nuggets fans are saying) is antagonizing, I can’t help you see past your anger at your team’s loss tonight friend.
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 25, 2010 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Fair enough
Just let people vent. You’re not really being that antagonistic it’s just bad timing.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
I do see some of it as antagonizing
Baiting, antagonizing, and acting superior. Part of it is bad timing, and part of it is bad wording. It’s clear that you don’t have “trolling” intentions, but a lot of what you say comes out that way.
I can’t help you see past your anger at your team’s loss tonight friend.
Sorry, but showing up when the Nuggets are down 15, then telling us about how our team is a waste and sucks does not constitute “help” in my mind. You might mean well, but it sure doesn’t feel like it.
I'll give you that showing up while we're getting blown out is a little questionable
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by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Showing up? I was on here during the game thread! I've been here numerous times throught the season!
I don’t get this.
Would you feel better if I put the Nuggets as my 2nd favorite team?
Because the only reason I’m catching ANY kind of flak by giving my opinion is because of that. I’m from LA. I love the Lakers.
However, I love the GAME. I study the GAME. And I try not to watch any of it with “whatever-colored glasses” or “drink whatever-colored kool-aid”.
Sorry, friend. I’ve got opinions and as long as I’m not being disrespectful about it, I don’t see why I can’t.
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 26, 2010 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions
Could you please wait until after the game?
when emotions have calmed down? Yes you bring up valid points but we are too mad to deal with them during the game.
Quitter's People United member # 42
You showed up at 11:57 today, That's basically when we were down 18 with little hope of making it close.
Quitter's People United: Member 12
and i was on reading the whole time watching the game.
I’m sorry. Tuesday I’ll make a comment right as the game starts so that I’ll have proof I was on and be able to justify any comments I may have late in the game thread or afterward.
You know, so people don’t just think I came on to “antagonize”.
Way to make others feel welcome, friend.
Sheesh.
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 26, 2010 12:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I'd like to end this little subthread
It’s gone on way too long, and I should have shut up a long time ago. For that I apologize.
But I do think it would be helpful if you were a little less consistently argumentative on here. For one thing, you didn’t really make a lot of basketball arguments. You did include some in a parenthetical list, but oftentimes you were saying that I was trying to “hide my feelings with a veil” and that I ought to “grow up” and various meta arguments.
We’re here to discuss the game, not to argue about pointless things like this.
About making others feel welcome: again, I’m not exactly the best person even when I’m not upset with the Nuggets. I don’t want you to think Denver Stiffs is a place where the posters are hostile toward Laker fans…we aren’t, in general. Guys like Marty Mart, for instance, are Lakers fans who come here to discuss basketball (and not right after a Nuggets blowout.) They rarely have a problem here.
What can I say? It’s the Internet. It’s hard to tell when you’re being a troll and when you’re expressing honest opinions at times. That’s why timing and wording matter.
And you don’t need to comment right away on the game thread just to prove a point. But I do think showing up in the midst of a blowout is kind of degrading to us fans. Other teams’ fans spend whole game threads on here anyway.
So again, sorry for dragging this out so long. It’s not exactly either of our shining moments, and I think it will probably be hidden by tomorrow afternoon. I reread my comments (less frustrated) and some of them were over the top. Reread yours, same story.
Either way good luck against the Thunder (common enemy), and hopefully the Nuggets can pull out a miracle so we can see our teams face each other again.
Quitter's People United: Member 12
I'm not the one who has a quarrel with you
Notice that I stayed out of you and Uh’s (this SN is weird to use in a sentence) argument. I just jumped in to agree with him on that one point, that you did jump in the thread as we were getting shlacked. I don’t mind your presence, and I have seen you on here before (usually in an argument, but that doesn’t bother me; I enjoy my fair share of arguments). Have your opinions and let people disagree with them. That’s fine with me. This is America.
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by airforcefoo on Apr 26, 2010 12:17 AM MDT up reply actions
I'd sure like you to show me where I wrote that your team is a "waste" or they "suck".
I NEVER wrote that.
I gave my opinions on the issues this team has and why they haven’t been able to reach anywhere near the potential they have.
And oddly enough, my opinions mirror that of a lot of actual Denver Nuggets “fans”.
Don’t put words in to my mouth.
Seriously man, look past who someone roots for and instead concentrate on wht they’re actually writing.
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 26, 2010 12:14 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree that the refs called it horribly and that they were very inconsistent
the bad thing was not that it was from baseline to baseline changing it was from quarter to quarter as well. I want the refs to stay consistent throughout the game. The calls they get on one team they get on the other.
That said the Nuggets played horrible D again and could not overcome that and their poor ball movement to get the W.
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:07 PM MDT up reply actions
-1 for Chauncey reference
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Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
He wasn't horrible
But he wasn’t our number 2 player like we need him to be tonight
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:02 PM MDT up reply actions
He was in shooting guard mode and not point guard mode I think
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:02 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree and that is not when we are at our best.
His points are more supposed to be the extra topping on the cake. With his passing and setting up plays being his actual job
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:05 PM MDT up reply actions
I would just sit Andersen
He cannot do anything out there. It is more sad than anything knowing how he is without being hurt. He truly does need to be shut down though.
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:01 PM MDT up reply actions
I would love to
In fact, I’ve been saying that all year long. Sure wish Adrian would read our comments. Maybe he’d learn something
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
I still believe in the Nuggets
I know that if we just play the whole game like the last 10 minutes of the game we will be fine. We need to get Nene to actually step up. We pass to him and he passes out of it. JR needs to start going to the hoop. When he gets the ball play some pick and roll. Also when Melo is trying all out and starts dragging a soft double have someone move behind it to get an easy bucket.
We can do this, time for the 7 game series to actually start for us Nuggets!
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:00 PM MDT reply actions
Join the Quitter's People United!
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
can you find the pic of his monster dunk at the beginning of the year?
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
Damn.
This photo should be kept on a vault. You’ll never see it happen again.
missed the AD press conference
so he was freakin out or what?
Blaming Melo (ridiculously) and ignoring his 39 and all around effort
In favor of his 9 turnovers and lack of assists.
that bullshit
melo is the only one playing with a sense of urgency and a desire to win. i could give a shit how many turnovers he has
Nearly had a panic attack
Threw Melo under the bus too.
Called Utah floppers
twitter.com/skitalicious
by runningdonut on Apr 25, 2010 11:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Not the Coach or the Refs
The problem lies with the Nuggets themselves. You guys are acting like you didn’t watch the same game that I did. The Nuggets have just been over dribbling and shooting bad jump shots for the past 3 games. Bad ball movement, bad PG play, and weak front line work. Call people on here quitters all you want, but you should call a spade a spade… The Nugs have been playing like shit.
How the hell is Dantley supposed to change things. The coach doesn’t really effect the game play, aside from time outs and plays called out of those time outs.
Nothing ever effects anything
because effect is not a verb.
by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:08 PM MDT up reply actions
thank you Affect v Effect is one of the worst grammer mistakes ever
Oh and airforcefoo just Thursty’d Robin Z :)
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:09 PM MDT up reply actions
ninja'd!
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
I didn't get pwned ;9
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
Oh, I know
It’s just that Robin Z got
Thursty’d and Ninja’d
So I had to add my signature.
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
no no no
Robin Z was Thursty’d,
ColoradoAggie11 and I ninja’d each other on the Thurstying…
there is a sentence I never thought I’d type
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
I like that
Ignore the rest of my argument and focus on a typo. Proof-read this: Suck my fat cock!
It is a joke
A running joke that you probably wouldn’t get, being new. No reason to overreact like that.
golly, you think highly of yourself
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
ps. that was a joke...
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
I would want to know, because it's hilarious,
but I would not want to see.
by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:22 PM MDT up reply actions
oh my..
we were trying to avoid this exact thing
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
Quitter's People United Member #2
It's ok, I'm glad he said it before I did
And I’m laughing my ass off even though I already knew what it was.
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by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:54 PM MDT up reply actions
oooh, Thursty'd!!
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
"Coach" Dantley was an obvious mistake,
He’s as inspirational as watching paint dry.
Waaaay over-matched!
Dumping on Melo w/out mentioning Nene, CB, JR, et al.
Maybe this will cheer you guys up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlrbJ6oG7OM
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
what's a post game thread without your links
you have an extremely disturbing taste in music btw
"I believe that basketball, when a certain level of unselfish team play is realized, can serve as a kind of metaphor for ultimate cooperation. It is a sport where success, as symbolized by the championship, requires that the dictates of the community prevail over selfish personal impulses. An exceptional player is simply one point on a five-pointed star. Statistics—such as points, rebounds, or assists per game—can never explain the remarkable interaction that takes place on a successful pro team."
~ Bill Bradley
~~~
http://www.youtube.com/bektur34 - denver nuggets videos
I love this more than JRs 360
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
I don't think they hate him.
I think he is so unique and unstoppable, they don’t know how to handle him
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
Seriously, my friends & I asked....
that same question- & 2 of them are Utah fans! What gives w/ the no-call dissing of Melo? Its becoming obvious that something’s not kosher.
the nuggets are messing up my grades
im too focused to do homework during games, and too pissed to do it after when we lose, which is pretty much al the time now
oh so this is Melo's fault too??
/tongue firmly planted in cheek
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
So you said,
“Oh, so sis is Mewo’s salt, soo?
by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:11 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
hey i'm in the same boat just quit your way to it
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Best way to do it! Especially once you get up to Linear Algebra and Differential Equations!
Or Fluid Dynamics/Materials in design this year for me haha
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:11 PM MDT up reply actions
haha and i got a bio final tommorow
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Ya I am not a fan of Bio
which is why I am a mechanical engineer student haha
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:15 PM MDT up reply actions
uhhh that sounds tough
i’m only in Algebra 3-4, haha i think i have it rough
Algebra 3 is just like Algebra 2 just add another variable haha
that is all you need to know ;)
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:14 PM MDT up reply actions
why does this sentence
remind me of the Pandoval gif where he is tripping for cake?
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
I have no clue
That sounds like a personal problem.
by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions
oh I thought you might have seen this on Purple Row
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
I haven't. It sounds funny
I’m not sure why my calling Linear Algebra cake reminded you of it, though.
by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions
i have no idea either
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
I'm sorry guys
I know what it’s like to be on the wrong end of a 3-1 deficit. It’s not fun.
Well, look at it this way. Head home, pull yourselves back together to win game 5, and look at the rest of the series as a chance to do something extraordinary and shock the NBA world.
thats what the QUITTER'S PEOPLE UNITED are here
a proud follower of pickaxes, the star, and the almighty cervelli
except david stern, the people of utah, david stern and the troll of laker fans
we’re all good!!!!
a proud follower of pickaxes, the star, and the almighty cervelli
it's the quitter's people united
but i get what you mean
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I would be hilarious
if we could all go to the game and have T-shirts or placards.
with his smiling face from the ad, over the words
“The Quitter’s People United”…
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
yes good point
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
nate, andrew you gotta think about this man lol
a proud follower of pickaxes, the star, and the almighty cervelli
Didn't have a coach fighting cancer last April
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
Our head coach is throwing the franchise player under the bus
Our veteran leader and starting point guard admits that our system is flawed offensively.
We are such a huge mess.
How did we get here?
twitter.com/skitalicious
I was thinking the same thing....
if he wants to be traded because of AD….AD better go into witness relocation
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
Denvers Management needs to get their act together
Before Melo’s contract expires or he will be heading for greening pastures.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 25, 2010 11:15 PM MDT up reply actions
He wants to stay here, we want him here, a deal will get worked out
And if not, I’ll just shoot myself.
by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:18 PM MDT up reply actions
AD won't be HC next year
and he may very well be off the staff entirely, coach Karl knows who was the biggest asset tonight and if he could he would give AD a good tongue thrashing tonight.
Proud member of Thuggetz nation.
AD should be suspended for putting this loss on Melo
That is the last thing he should point to as the problem. We almost lost this game by 30+ points!
twitter.com/skitalicious
by runningdonut on Apr 25, 2010 11:15 PM MDT up reply actions
AD
I’m glad I didn’t hear AD’s comments I would have jumped into the TV. What an Ass. He could not coach his way out of a paper bag.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 25, 2010 11:16 PM MDT up reply actions
AD should be suspended for saying shit, or calling Utah floppers
sure it’s true but I just want AD suspended so he can’t coach.
Proud member of Thuggetz nation.
see and who said we couldn't recover from this
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what did our leader say
and how much will he have to pay?
a proud follower of pickaxes, the star, and the almighty cervelli
made some jokes about fesenko
and looked really sad, actually
Rebuild
Time for a quick rebuild while Melo is young. I’m sure that Melo wants so much to be playing for a Championship and it is not happening with the current team.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 25, 2010 11:21 PM MDT up reply actions
He's saying the right things
But hinting that this team has fallen apart
twitter.com/skitalicious
by runningdonut on Apr 25, 2010 11:21 PM MDT up reply actions
well thats an understatement
carmelo is the duct tape keeping our wagon together
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New at HomeDepot
Quitter’s Duct Tape,
for when you can barely quit anymore
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Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
Maybe Birdman should use some Quitter's Duct Tape
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
Melo in postgame:
"I need some help. I’m not out there pointing fingers at anybody… I can’t do it by myself.’’
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Understatement
If any of the other key players elevated their game we would be leading the series.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 25, 2010 11:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Seriously all we needed in game one was JR
if anyone else stepped up besides Melo we would have won at least one more game. game 3 it was Melo and Billups with absolutely no one else. This time it was Melo with very little from everyone else.
by ColoradoAggie11 on Apr 25, 2010 11:35 PM MDT up reply actions
i'm saying this right now the jets are the favorites to win the lombardy
not a jets fan but it’s a smart choice
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Oh definitely
Braylon will get a lot of opps with Santonio across from him and that defense is stacked. They also have a very good offensive line
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
revis, washington, LT, ed, and holmes
smart bet here
a proud follower of pickaxes, the star, and the almighty cervelli
I would have said the Steelers
But they’re in a state of shock right now.
So, I’m going with the Colts.
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
They would certainly be the other pick
Of course, the Dolphins are a wild card. Chad Henne has a lot of potential and if he can develop chemistry with Marshall…look out
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Melo pissed but keeping his composure
this team just isn’t holding together right now, it’s sad
I still can’t fucking believe AD blamed Melo’s turnovers for this loss
twitter.com/skitalicious
AD
AD is completely lost. I would recommend that the fans voice their displeasure, but AD is barely holding it together already.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 25, 2010 11:22 PM MDT up reply actions
"AD is our coach. We're gonna fight with him."
Melo is not a douchebag.
AD is.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Melo has made some mistakes
but he’s not stupid
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
So you want a PLAYER to call his COACH out?!
And that’s going to help the cohesion on this team HOW again?
Puh-leeze.
"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."
by Themanthemyththelegend on Apr 25, 2010 11:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Come'on man. We talkin' 'bout PRACTICE. PRACTICE!!!
Practice? We’re talkin’ ‘bout practice. It’s PRACTICE.
AD
Behind closed doors I’m sure that Melo will voice his opinion.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 25, 2010 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah but he had the decency not to say anything in public
AD is supposed to be the classy former star and Melo is supposed to be the thug. I definitely don’t see it
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
AD is clueless
If he thinks Melo is the problem that explains why we are where we are. What a moron.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 25, 2010 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions
I have a feeling he'll be backpedaling
on these comments
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
AD Backpedaling
I hope so, he needs to be more accurate in his analysis. I’m sure he was simply looking at the stat sheet as he was obviously sleeping during the game.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 25, 2010 11:29 PM MDT up reply actions
It all started 2 1/2 months ago
That first half of the Lakers game was the champion nuggets. Then Lawson went down… then Kenyon, then George.
I now see why a good coach is important especially to a Denver team. We need that stability and leader on the bench.
Remember when Karl first came to the Nuggets and we went on a 32-8 run. That is why coaching is so important
by JR15 on Apr 25, 2010 11:26 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Also
It’s not over yet. What if Deron tears an ACL in game 5? Again I know that is probably the only way Denver wins the series, but as they say anything can happen.
Ok I’m joking, I am in medicine so I can’t wish for that… But if it is D Will. I will jump on the Quitters United team.
Is it me or do we play better against a fully healthy jazz squad than this version of them?
by JR15 on Apr 25, 2010 11:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Melo did not know
There’s no way Melo could have known that AD called him out. Unless Dantley said something to him personally, which I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t do, especially after a big loss. That’s what makes it such a low blow. Call out your best player when other guys simply didn’t contribute half of what he did
twitter.com/skitalicious
AD Idiot
If Melo does not know he does by now. Information flows at the speed of light and AD is cooked.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 25, 2010 11:30 PM MDT up reply actions
whew im sure glad we didnt have to face the Suns in first round
They would have killed us…
by InboundingLobPass on Apr 25, 2010 11:30 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Let's Be Honest
Management rolled the dice this past summer by A) Not getting a quality Big and B) Hoping both JR and Nene would finally grow into their potential, which did not happen. I love Nene as a person but his time is up, and JR was given a chance and didn’t use it. We also played CB way to many minutes during the season, and he is just wore out, you know his heart. Going forward I love Melo, Blur, CB, AAA, and maybe even Joey. Nene and JR need to be replaced, and with people who will be an upgrade. Kmart is fine but if you can get a quality player for his expiring contract, I would do so. All that said, I am with you fellas, Nuggets to the END. GO NUGGETS!!!
I liked Melo's postgame comments
I really have few inhibitions about Melo as a player or person at this stage. That’s the positive I’m going to take from this game. Melo is a bonafide star and leader, and I don’t care who wants to criticize him for whatever for the rest of his career, I will pretty much always defend him. When people question him after a mediocre effort in a regular season game or when he relaxes on defense, I’ll fight for him because any Laker fan would do the same for Kobe and Cav fan for Lebron, and those guys both do the same kind of things from time to time. We have a true superstar, and I for one am going to appreciate the hell out of him while he’s still here and in his prime (and I personally think he’s more likable than Lebron or Kobe).
This comment was basically a stream of consciousness that started with me watching Melo’s presser, but I meant it all.
by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:34 PM MDT reply actions 10 recs
Melo
Could not agree more! And at least in the playoffs he has not seen a friendly whistle ala Kobe or Lebron or Wade.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 25, 2010 11:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Completely agree
He’s there now. We waited all these years, and he’s there. He’s a leader, he’s clutch, and he enjoys himself out there. Let’s hope he sticks around for another decade or so.
you're green!
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My first one
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by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions
well said
Although I have to poiint out, every other professional athlete in the world is more likeable than Kobe Bryant. Bill Laimbeer is more likeable than Kobe Bryant.
by ParkHillNative on Apr 26, 2010 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
True
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by airforcefoo on Apr 26, 2010 11:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Its time to blow this team up in the offseason
-Get rid of Nene its obvious he doesnt care to play like his body is built.
-Trade KMart, not that I have anything against him but hes got too much money coming.
-Bird needs to be limited to 5 mins a game so he doesnt get hurt and suck all season.
-Give Petro mins, he has shown he wants to play and actually WILL play, unlike the Nugs this post season
I look for the starters next year to be:
CB, Melo, Petro, open, open. with jr and joey off the bench for now
I’ve loved the nuggets forever and when they were horrible at least they were consistent. We have a championship caliber team but not even they want to win or care about the playoffs.
Melo "I'm tryin' to beat them, I can't do it by myself, I need some help"
Melo said" I’m frustrated by the level of play the energy and intensity" AD said, “I thought our effort was real good” What game was AD watching ?
AD
Based on his comments he must have only been awake for the press conference.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 25, 2010 11:38 PM MDT up reply actions
question: Does another early playoff exit increase our chances of scoring someone big in the offseason?
I see JR + Nene for Bosh as a possibility…
Thoughts?
by InboundingLobPass on Apr 25, 2010 11:43 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
..
I like JR and i think in 2 years he will be a star like Ginobli is for Spurs, hes just young and needs time to realize….
Given that I like Jr and want him to stay…..
ANything that = Nene leaving w/o giving up Melo I’m all for it
JR has a long way to go to realize that he's part of a team
If he isn’t hitting shots he isn’t doing anything. He was lost out there on defense when we needed him the most. I was pulling for AD to replace him with Afflalo in the final minutes but we all know AD has no idea how to put winners on the floor.
Do you think he’s tanking these games so that the team that retired his jersey would win?
JR
He’s not that young anymore. He’s been in the league long enough now that it’s fair to expect him to show more maturity and consistency.
by ParkHillNative on Apr 26, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
I'd be happy if that happened
But then I’d be worried about our Bench even more.
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He'd quit and eat a Twinkie with Charles Barkley
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
so what have we accomplished tonight
1. kept our heads up
2. made a new religion/club
3. managed to not kill ourselves
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a proud follower of pickaxes, the star, and the almighty cervelli\
precisely!!!!
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
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Considering the shittiness that has been these last three games,
this thread has actually been a nice piece of respite from Nuggets depression. (And the Avs were eliminated last night. It really is a wonder that I don’t want to kill myself right now.)
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by airforcefoo on Apr 25, 2010 11:59 PM MDT up reply actions
He actually said that?
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He'd quit and eat a Twinkie with Charles Barkley
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
jr being jr
now listen to what you just tweeted!!!!
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Honestly if this is about Melo
Ugh. Jeez. Complete breakdown of team unity.
Come on JR, you’re better than that.
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Yeah and it's false
Considering he made way more stupid decisions.
The only person who might have a right to criticize melo is Ty Lawson. Everyone else just sucked
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
JR
JR is an idiot blessed with unbelievable talent. I don’t think his head will ever catch up with the talent. Trade him….
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 26, 2010 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Yes
I hate to say it, but after everything he’s been through this year, he’s still the same guy he was last year. Immature, inconsistent, and disappointing.
The loss of a friend, jail time, having the chance to learn from the best and classiest (Chauncey), etc etc etc. It’s a shame he never learned.
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I do hope I am wrong though
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Maybe it was about Chauncey?
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Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
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don't worry, he calls out melo he'll have to deal with the congregation first
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a proud follower of pickaxes, the star, and the almighty cervelli\
Like he did with Kenyon Martin
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He'd quit and eat a Twinkie with Charles Barkley
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
you gave me an idea
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
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I did?
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He'd quit and eat a Twinkie with Charles Barkley
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
yes I changed my member number to 4
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
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i swear to god, that ball boy is going to be the most hated man in this club
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a proud follower of pickaxes, the star, and the almighty cervelli\
methinks he already is
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
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He's not necessarily singling anyone out
I wouldn’t try to read anything more into it that isn’t there. JR isn’t exactly TS Elliot; if he was trying to call someone out, he’d probably just say it. As the comment stands, he’s right. I hope there is some introspection involved in this comment, but either way, I don’t think it’s a sign of discontentment in the locker room. Maybe I’m being hopeful, though. Shit, who knows?
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by airforcefoo on Apr 26, 2010 12:07 AM MDT up reply actions
JR
JR has had his shot in Denver. He will never grow up and become the player that he could be if he actually had a brain.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 26, 2010 12:09 AM MDT up reply actions
if that has anything to do with melo
JR probably just printed his ticket out of town
by Rainbow skyline on Apr 26, 2010 12:28 AM MDT up reply actions
JR's Ticket out of Town
Not sure JR will ever get another chance as good as this one. He is blowing it isn’t smart enough to know it.
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 26, 2010 12:31 AM MDT up reply actions
somebody needs to 'corn' JR's Range if he's tweetin' like that...
Just sayin’
by InboundingLobPass on Apr 26, 2010 12:04 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
ok, i'm done for the night
remember kids QPU’s number 1 rule: “you ain’t a stiff if you ain’t quittin, man”
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a proud follower of pickaxes, the star, and the almighty cervelli\
Wednesday
Should be an interesting locker room with AD’s and Jr’s comments
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 26, 2010 12:23 AM MDT reply actions
Yeesh
I hope you’re wrong. I hope they just come ready to play.
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by airforcefoo on Apr 26, 2010 12:24 AM MDT up reply actions
not sure if it's saying much
JR followed that tweet up with this gem:
“Haha y’all are to funny! Boy y’all sure know how to start something!”
if he is indeed joking around, it’s a horrible attempt at humor (par for course for him though; see popcorn incident). i just hope whatever this is blows over and the team can just get back to being a cohesive unit.
JR
The problem is that he can not see the difference
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 26, 2010 12:41 AM MDT up reply actions
He better start making shots in Game 5
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Carmelo Anthony and Chris Andersen appraently got into a little arguement
Did anybody notice that?
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He'd quit and eat a Twinkie with Charles Barkley
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
What happened?
Quitter's People United: Member 12
Dunno
It happened after Andersen shot that horendous jumpshot. Said so on denverpost.com.
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He'd quit and eat a Twinkie with Charles Barkley
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
Team
This is when you need a coach to pull the team together. AD is not up to the task
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 26, 2010 12:48 AM MDT up reply actions
reporter mentioned it to melo during his press conference
maybe he was just downplaying it, but melo didn’t really seem to make much of it. just told the reporter he talked to bird on the sideline about the shot and that was it. didn’t really seem emotional about it.
Ty lawson first of the bench
as opposed to smitty
by defjamaica8 on Apr 26, 2010 12:57 AM MDT up reply actions
Yes please
He changes the game dramatically! Now if we could actually get some cuts to the basket and play defense and …..on well…
by LongtimeNugFan on Apr 26, 2010 1:00 AM MDT up reply actions
The damn season is over. Now let’s talk about how FO fucks the draft.
P.S. Could I join the Quitter’s People United?
Maybe we could use
Petro as a starter the next game. Or Allen. Then when Williams drives to the hoop Allen would clothesline him and send him crashing head first. Maybe the refs will call it a playoff foul.
Summary
More Afflalo less JR
More Lawson less Billups
More Petro (For which ever big isn’t showing up) Nene or Anderson
Teach these guys how to deliver a hard clean foul. Kmart can instruct. I’m tired of Williams and Boozer driving untouched to the basket. If Williams is lowering the shoulder deliver a hard foul. (Jerry Sloan would come unglued if his team game up so many free be’s.)
i agree
jazz never give up layups they always foul and foul hard regardless of foul situation. why we do not do the same I can’t understand. those easy buckets always spark runs for them and it pisses me off. WHACK SOMEBODY HARD
It hurts
the odds are stacked against us, but there’s a bright side to this story. Melo is a leader, melo is the heart and soul of this team, Melo is the best player the Nuggets have and its not even close. I’ve never been prouder of #15, now we need to go get him some help, the type of help who will recognize his game is the focus and their gme needs to be molded around it.
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Balls
As just about everyone’s already stated, Denver needs to grow a pair! Or in Nene’s case, pretend like they have a pair. I know the guy battled cancer a few years back, but he looks like the biggest pu$$y on the planet in this series!
by DonnyDenverness on Apr 26, 2010 7:33 AM MDT reply actions
Wholly inappropriate and vile to
make these kinds of references to Nene’s cancer. Karma is a bitch
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
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That sounded worse than I meant it.
All I’m saying is that he has disappeared and gets pushed around by players who have no business manhandling him. He’s got some fire in there somewhere, he beat cancer after all, but he hasn’t shown one ounce of it on the court this series.
by DonnyDenverness on Apr 26, 2010 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
It's all good
It’s kind of a touchy subject here. If you had said “Birdman needs to grow a pair,” then no one would be complaining, but with Nene it’s a different story.
But yeah. Nene’s total absence from Games 3 and 4 have been extremely disappointing for a guy who we all thought would be the x-factor.
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by Uh on Apr 26, 2010 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions
i wonder if carlos boozer stinks!?
causing nene to stay away from the paint and avoid all body contact!? lol j/k.
i feel like we open the games strong and stick to the gameplan for about 7-8 minutes. utah weathers the early storm and stays composed. after about 8 possessions, our shots are falling and we resort to 0 or 1 pass iso-offense. utah slowly cuts the deficit and eventually takes the lead. once that happens, we go into MAJOR panic mode even though there is still 3 quarters of basketball left. we tense up and start forcing everything on offense. we get caught gambling on D bc we think we can take the lead with one steal and fastbreak, which leads to layups for the jazz. and we have cement in our shoes when there are loose balls on the ground.
everything is ass backward. we need to fight for the loose balls, fight for everything that could be ours. that means everyone is rebounding on defense, closing out on utah shooters and stop being lazy and grab the fuckin ball. as for offense, we can score but we jsut gotta stick with it. just bc we go down 1 or 3 or 7, we dont have to force things on every possession or rely on melo to dig us out of the hole we put ourselves in. keep moving, keep passing and stay composed. forcing shots only leads to utah fastbreaks.
if we’re gonna lose this series, at least go down fighting.
I think we will come out swinging.
I just really do believe this. I think it would be awesome if George made an appearance at the Can, just for moral support.
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Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
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I don't want to get into an extended back and forth
But I’m seriously curious: Why is Nene such an underachiever? I mean, he’s huge, quick, athletic, has great hands, wonderful smile, and a soft touch near the basket. And yet, he has no post-up moves, averages only about 7 rebounds, and rarely shoots. How is he getting so little out of his obvious talent and amazing physique? It seems like he could be a dominant force, but just isn’t?
JR Smith has performed as I expected, but the Denver bigs have been small. Martin and Andersen are ailing. What about Nene?
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 26, 2010 9:29 AM MDT reply actions
He's just not confident, I think.
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Daley for Closer!!
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Maybe he's not trying
They gave him the ball plenty of times when the game first started because they wanted to get Nene involved. What did he do? Miss layups and passed on open shots. he should have been able to get into the paint against a rookie and Boozer, but he didn’t.
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He'd quit and eat a Twinkie with Charles Barkley
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He’s literally double my size, yet quicker than me, and better looking. He’s a young millionaire who has ditched his last name. He is almost always more physically talented than his opponent. HOW is this guy not confident? He should be consistently getting 17 pts, 10 reb, and 2 blk. He needs to recommit.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 26, 2010 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions
two aspects
There’s the physical aspect — Nene’s great physically. Incredible talent.
Then there’s the mental aspect. He doesn’t have a killer instinct. He doesn’t thrive on competition. I don’t think you can really teach that to somebody. Either you have it or you don’t. There are lots of players out there who go pretty far on limited physical skills because they make up for it with the mental aspect.
by ParkHillNative on Apr 26, 2010 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions
And then when he says stuff like he wants to retire in five years
It makes you question if he’s even motivated or not.
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by Uh on Apr 26, 2010 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Fundamental problems
There are 2 major problems with this team and they were in place prior to GK’s absence, but they have become even more magnified as AD has taken over and doesn’t seem to have the insight or ability to adjust.
#1, They don’t defend the pick and roll. This is a glaring problem with this team’s defense. PG’s that run the P&R decently just kill the Nuggets and it is so frustrating to watch. DWill, Nash, you name it; if they run it with a big setting the pick we don’t defend it. I don’t know if it is coaching or if the bigs are just lazy, but it is so frustrating to watch the opposing big set a pick for the PG. Then our big sags back several feet while our PG has to fight around the pick. Then our PG is trailing their PG, who has several feet of free space to attack the big and now also has a big that is wide open for a 15 foot jumper or rolling to the lane wide open.
Why on earth don’t they understand that if that big comes on the other side of the pick. Then the big and PG can push the opposing PG back with a double team, can usually get back to his man while the PG has to bring it back into the offensive zone.
ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!! It drives me crazy watching these teams run this again and again and again and we still don’t get it.
#2, Lack of overall toughness/tenacity. This is several small things rolled into one, and some of these have just crept back into the Nuggets psyche recently:
- Can anyone on this team set a decent pick? I have watched most of the games this year and I think I could count on one hand the times that I have seen a good solid pick, either for the guy with the ball or off the ball. It drives me crazy watching someone come out to set a pick at the top of the key and then slip or roll before the defender had even touched him.
- For goodness sakes, please take it to the rim and finish strongly! Nene is probably the most frustrating culprit of this with his missed layups and finger rolls and half hooks. All the while teasing us every once in awhile with an occasional monster dunk. Melo also has some problems with the softness around the rim, but he gets a pass. He tends to finish his double clutches, plus 30 points a night buys you some leeway offensively. Ever wonder why Lebron gets so many calls, (other than us being witnesses)- he takes it to the rim with authority almost every time he drives the lane.
- If you don’t have offensive plays run for you and/or your jumper is suspect from 10+ feet, then hang around the paint for offensive rebounds. iI swear, if KMart did this he would easily average 20+ points a game. (see also Bird, Nene, Petro to a lesser extent) I am about to lose my dang mind watching guys who can shoot a lick stand around 18 feet from the rim and then bail as soon as a shot goes up. Those points are there to be had if someone would just take them.
- Make your fouls worth it! You know that you are getting called for a foul when DWill comes barreling into the lane, so put him on the ground – HARD! maybe after 5 or so time he has to pick himself up from a hard foul, he won’t be so aggressive into the paint. You have to give it to Jerry Sloan, the Jazz foul so much, it is impossible for the refs to call every foul. (see also Ron Artest) Maybe if the Nuggs started doing this the ticky tack fouls we see get called against them would start to disappear. I wonder if this left with D Jones in the offseason, because at least we saw this element last year in the playoffs.
I don’t even know if the Nuggets have the coaching, the personnel or the will to make these changes. It might end up taking a rebuild. I am more confident than ever that the Nuggets can win a championship with Melo as the star, but unless there are some fundamental changes, I am worried that it may never happen.
Sorry about the long-winded post, I am just trying to clear my head after these last frustrating games.
Ughhh...
What a disaster. I feel bad for both Melo, and especially Karl… I really can’t believe AD, he looks like he could care less whether we’re winning or losing out there. He’s all set as long as he’s got his ‘classy’ pinstripe suit and someone to blame at the end of the game.
It’s really too bad. We’re a great team when we execute. Not sure what KMart was doing, but it looked like he was pretty much just standing around waiting for a miracle to happen the entire second half. I have a lot of respect for him as a player… but you just can’t stand around waiting for melo to “save the team.” That goes for any of the nuggs big men really. And honestly…. Where was petro the whole game? At least throw him in there for a MINUTE and see what happens…. I’d bet money that he’d at least capitalize on his minutes and play hard playoff basketball. I’m liking Lawson a lot lately. I can’t wait to see the player that he develops to in the next few years. But really guys… Where’s the “playoffs hustle”??? Anyone that shows any less than 100% during game 5 should be benched. Earn your minutes, I don’t care who you are. Ugh….
My prayers go out to Coach Karl and his family… it’s nice to see him moving around a bit at least. I don’t care if we win or lose at this point really… I don’t see us winning 3 in a row at this point. But for Karl’s sake… just play hard at home at least. Like…. please? =/
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