Coach Karl fights cancer again...
"He's the toughest son of a bitch in the whole world," Nuggets head coach George Karl's attorney and longtime friend Bret Adams told me tonight. There's no reason to believe this isn't true, but at tonight's press conference Karl showed his vulnerable side and to say it was emotional wouldn't do it justice.
I knew at some point in my life I'd weasel my way into a Nuggets press conference, but I certainly didn't want to be at one under these circumstances.
When the news broke a few hours ago about Nuggets head coach George Karl possibly missing some games due to "a medical condition", I immediately reached out to Karl's attorney and longtime friend Bret Adams to let him and the Karl camp know that if there's anything I could do for them, count me in. I don't know where we go from here specifically, but the first step was for me to hustle down to the Pepsi Center to shake Karl's hand and let him know that I heard the sad news and was there to support him.
First off, I want to give a big time "thank you" to the Nuggets communications team of Tomago Collins and Tim Gelt for being cool with me sitting in on the press conference. With the highly sensitive nature of this press conference, only credentialed media people were allowed inside. But I felt given my history with Coach Karl, the right thing to do was to show up, say hi, keep my mouth shut and relay the experience to share with the readers of this site...all of whom I know are gravely concerned for Karl as evident by the thoughtful comments we're already seeing.
By the time most of you read this, you'll already know many of the details of Karl's second bout with cancer, so I'd like to share what it was like inside that room and some of the quotes that may not find their way into the mainstream news outlets that have space limitations.
After the press gathered in the very tiny and very hot press conference room inside Pepsi Center, all the Nuggets players and assistant coaches gathered along the back wall behind the podium and were clearly in a somber, depressed mood. You could tell right away that this collection of players is connected to their coach and this isn't easy for them to deal with. I wouldn't say that any one player was more emotional than another, but the Nuggets trifecta leadership of Chauncey Billups, Carmelo Anthony and Kenyon Martin seemed to be taking the shocking news particularly hard.
Soon thereafter, Karl entered with his doctor, Dr. Jacques Saari of the Sky Ridge Medical Center, and addressed the small cadre of reporters present. Choking up from the start, Karl relayed the series of events that led up to this press conference starting from feeling a lump on his neck before New Year's to the possibility of missing games and/or practices due to his "fatigue level." Karl said that he had "an emotional desire to stay with the team" but that he will have to undergo "six weeks of radiation and chemotherapy." Karl said he believes he has "a championship team" here in Denver and that he "wants to continue coaching," but that there's a possibility he'll miss games and/or practices based on his "fatigue level." Karl specifically mentioned that he won't be coaching at Golden State or at Minnesota in the coming weeks, but that the cancer is "curable and treatable" and he hopes to be "100% for the playoffs." Karl also confidently said that he's "ready for the competition with cancer."
Karl spoke at length about how blessed he is with his family, players, coaching staff and the Nuggets organization. He said he didn't "need sympathy but needs support" so that he can "kick cancer's butt and stay with the team." Regarding his coaching staff, Karl said that they have to "take on more responsibility" and will be guided by assistant coach Tim Grgrich whom Karl referred to a few times as the best assistant coach in the NBA. Karl went on to say that when the Nuggets lost Doug Moe and Mike Dunlap, he and "Grg" agreed to bring in young guys and that he's "excited' that they have this new responsibility, noting that John Welch would likely coach the offense while Chad Iske coaches the defense, Jamahl Mosley coaches special situations and that Adrian Dantley would be head coach. Karl then turned to his players and sarcastically said "as long as these dudes behind me cooperate with the assistant coaches, because they don't always cooperate with me...", to which the players collectively chuckled. It was the only light moment of the night and the only time the players smiled or let loose during the highly emotional press conference.
Karl's doctor spoke and said that Karl "can't skip a day of treatment" and that the "high doses of radiation effects the neck and mouth." Dr. Saari also noted that while the first four weeks of the treatment are manageable, the last two can be quite difficult.
During the Q&A with reporters, the Post's Dave Krieger asked if Karl wonders "why now?" given that the Nuggets are in the midst of competing for an NBA Championship. Karl said that he wakes up every morning and says to himself: "Oh, shit. I have cancer." And finished that thought by saying "there's no guaranteed contracts in this" while getting choked up some more to the point that he couldn't really speak anymore.
After the press conference was over, a few reporters huddled around Dr. Saari and Nene who loitered in the Pepsi Center hallway for a while. I decided to head out and share what I observed. Heading home, I called Adams to relay what I just witnessed and he said that Karl is "the toughest son of a bitch in the whole world" and that he and Karl would be in Cleveland together tomorrow when the Nuggets arrive to face the Cavaliers on Thursday night.
Adams also shared with me that when Karl first discovered the lump and was diagnosed with cancer again, he kept it to himself...even from Adams, his closest friend and confidant. This was George being George again as Karl knew that if the news leaked during the contract negotiations, it wouldn't be a fair negotiation for the Nuggets (imagine the PR shit storm that would have ensued had the Nuggets rescinded an offer to an ailing coach?). At the latest possible moment, Adams and Karl brought up Karl's cancer to the Nuggets organization and, according to Adams, Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke and the organization "didn't flinch, didn't budge" one bit. Adams said that the Nuggets showed nothing but the utmost integrity throughout the process, especially given that they had every right to hold off and play things out with Karl's health in question. So major kudos are in order for Kroenke, Bret Bearup, Mark Warkentien and Rex Chapman for having the class and the integrity to work out Karl's deal under these circumstances.
My take on all this is that we're lucky as fans to finally have a coach, a collection of players and an organization that does things the right way and is deserving of our support. But as Karl himself said it best tonight, in situations like these "health and family come first, basketball is secondary." How unfortunately true that is right now.
I know I speak for Stiffs everywhere in saying that our thoughts and best wishes go to George Karl and his family to beat this disease once more. As one of our readers aptly stated while commenting on the previous post, we'll be rooting for two things now: for Coach Karl to beat cancer and for the Nuggets to beat the Lakers. Let's hope both things come true this year.
Get well soon, George.
Related links...
For detailed information on Karl's situation, treatment and recovery please read Benjamin Hochman's article in the Denver Post.
The Post's Dave Krieger wrote a terrific column summarizing the emotional press conference.
To make a donation in Coach Karl's honor, please visit Hoops for St. Jude.
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Thank you Andrew.
I really hope the Nuggets take it upon themselves to win games now not just for themselves, but for their coach. Karl is a fighter and will survive and like he said, he doesn’t need sympathy, he needs support. I know if I was undergoing cancer treatment one of the things that would absolutely feel better is my team kicking ass in my absence.
We love you, Karl. Know that all of Nuggets nation is behind you.
Swats.
Well written Andrew...
Thanks for the behind the scenes look at this situation. Its really satisfying to know that the team I root for night in and night out is also truly a class act organization.
God speed in your fight George, I wish you a speedy recovery.
my hopes are
1. Karl makes a speedy recovery from this cancer.
2. The Nuggets rally around their coach and finish the last part of the year strong
I wish Coach Karl the best for a FULL recovery
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That's a real shame.
As I posted over at BE when someone mentioned it, we’re all so emotionally invested in our respective teams we forget that the people we spew utter hatred at are actually indeed that, people, With real problems, outside of the game of basketball. It’s an unfortunate situation, but from what I’ve heard is that he’s beaten it before, and we can all only hope he does it again once and for all and is not hampered by it again down the line.
I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
Just a thought
…maybe we could put together a fan tribute, sort of like the ‘bring back birdman’ petition except that we’re standing behind him too. highlight reel? a massive get well card w/ all the positive comments?
I'm in
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
by Garrett Olsen on Feb 16, 2010 10:06 PM MST up reply actions
Me too
Quite frankly, if it were up to me, I’d just throw in the towel.
by ParkHillNative on Feb 16, 2010 11:29 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Fo sho
Andrew definatly has the connects to get something like this done, lets make it happen.
"Jive turkey is a little over the line my man!"
by GoldenNugget on Feb 17, 2010 1:23 AM MST up reply actions
I'm in
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
that'd be awesome.
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Can't say anything that hasn't been said...
I wish Coach a full and speedy recovery. May everyone’s prayers be with GK and his family as endure this. God Bless, Coach. BEAT Cancer!!!
Great stuff Andrew
Thanks for letting us know all of that. I got a little choked up reading this. I have had family member battle and fall from cancer and it is one of the most depressing and draining experiences for not only the person with cancer but the family and friends of the person as well.
I feel for you big George. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Denver has two things to play for now. A championship and thier father… Big George.
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
I haven’t made it a secret that I’ve been through cancer. Funny thing is that my oncologist referred me to Dr. Saari to deal with the after effects once I was cured. It was strange to see him at the press conference. Surviving cancer changes you quite a lot. The combination of chemo and surgery nearly crippled me. Be prepared that Karl may not ever be the same again in one way or another and possibly in ways that you can’t see.
I know that feeling of waking up and saying oh shit, I have cancer. The other thing you tend to say is “How can I have cancer?”. See the thing of it is, is that cancer is one of those things that happens to other people. Until it happens to you.
I went through one of the most agressive regimens of chemotherapy that there is and the regimen that Karl will go through will be bad too. I think he is being optimistic on the number of games he will miss. I tried to work a desk job while on chemo and couldn’t do it. If you haven’t gone through it, you just can’t understand what it is like. As my oncologist told me “We come as close to killing you as we possibly can without actually doing it.”
I realize I’m not the only one around here to have survived cancer, I noticed JR2’s post about having lost an eye to cancer. How many of us have actually been through chemo?
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
My mom had the exact same cancer
and although she has been cancer free, the radiation/chemo/surgery kicked her butt and she is still suffering after effects 15 years later. Still, life is life, and she’s lived to see grandkids and other milestones. But, yeah, Karl might not be the same after this.
Thanks for your post Thursty. Glad you overcame!
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by Nate Timmons on Feb 16, 2010 10:19 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Something for George
Andrew,
Wonderful post, as would be expected from The Stiff!
Tonight I took a slightly different angle. I made contact with a great person at St. Jude and expect to receive specific info (link/graphics, etc.) tomorrow regarding linking to and promoting Hoops for St. Jude which of course (see link) is a favorite of George’s.
I intend to put the info on our site and if you wish/can pass it along to you too.
Thanks again for your great info!
Thanks!
Vicki's Husband
(Russ)
Very nicely put Andrew,
Thanks for the behind the scenes insight. I hate to admit it, but my eyes watered up…but only a little.
Lakers are only up 6 on GS after 3. Lets go warriors!
Get well George
Dantley’s our man for now.
by the real stranger on Feb 16, 2010 10:40 PM MST reply actions
If the Nuggets Win the NBA Championship, This Will be a Team they Write Books and Make Movies About...GO GEORGE!!
it would be a good movie
but first, let’s see how the nuggets respond. watch and see…watch and see and hopefully cheer.
Best wishes to coach
Nugs have rallied around their wounded soldiers all year. It just shows you there’s more to the team than the basketball. GK is a tough dude
best wishes to coach karl from the philippines!
Get well soon!
Fucking cancer!
Leave George Karl alone!
My Dad was diagnosed last week. Now this. Godamnit.
I’m a HUGE Karl fan and an even bigger Dad fan…
The best part? Hearing the news my dad and I spoke and he said, “Well if George Karl can do it then so can I.”
YES YOU CAN!!
love you dad.
Now both of you: KICK CANCERS ASS!
by SternfluffsKobe on Feb 17, 2010 6:43 AM MST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Sorry to hear about your Pops
I hope he and GK will have stories to tell about beating cancer. keep your chin up man.
by Joelsopinion on Feb 17, 2010 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
Praying for your dad as well as George,
having faith and knowing they can kick cancer butt is the best support! Take care!
Kenyon Martin is swaggerific.
Carlos Gonzalez is amazing.
"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is."
~Bob Feller~
by AtkinsandTulofan on Feb 17, 2010 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
Sterns, I'm so sorry to hear about your father.
I wish GK and your father all the luck. I believe they will defeat cancer
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
GREAT IDEAS EVERYONE
I really appreciate everyone’s ideas about “what can we do?” Borrowing Russ’s idea above, I’m going to find out how we can donate money and/or time to Karl’s preferred cancer-related cause (I’m assuming it’s St. Jude’s as Russ points out). I’ll also investigate doing a virtual “get well soon” card, kind of like the Birdman petition as suggested above.
Stay tuned. Nate and I really appreciate the outpouring of support here…
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by Andrew Feinstein on Feb 17, 2010 7:28 AM MST reply actions
To this point no one has mentioned Adrian Dantley
I would rather see Coach taking care of this cancer and not worrying about the team. At all. I have all the faith in the world in the Nuggets coaching staff headed up by Adrian Dantley. Coach, take a breather. You have earned it. Let the staff carry the weight.
+1
Karl shouldn’t try to deal with the team during this time unless he truly wants to.
"Jive turkey is a little over the line my man!"
by GoldenNugget on Feb 17, 2010 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
It sounded to me like he does want to, at least as far as he's physically able.
I would think it would help get his minds off the treatment, rather than sitting at home all the time.
Good Luck Coach Karl
From all the nuggets fans in NJ, we wish you the best
by The Great Cambino on Feb 17, 2010 9:44 AM MST reply actions
HOPE YOU RECOVER SOON, GEORGE
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Feb 17, 2010 10:37 AM MST reply actions
This news was hard to take
I’ve always treated Nuggets basketball like life and death, but we all know that sports are a diversion from reality. I personally have lost two family members to cancer in the last month. With this and my own struggles over the last several months, sports, and especially the Nuggets’ title push, have given me respite from harsh reality. So for cancer to now force itself into this arena as well is just piling it on. However, this is a good reminder of the human element that comprises sports and that makes them more than just pure entertainment. I’m thankful for what George and the Nuggets do and I wish him nothing but the best. I’m confident that he will win this battle like his last one against cancer.
As for George returning to full health for the playoffs, from what I’m hearing, that might not be realistic (I don’t really know anything of course; I’m just speculating based on a small amount of reading). While nobody (besides maybe the Nuggets themselves) is more emotionally invested in the Nuggets’ title chase than me, I hope that George doesn’t rush back at a risk to his own health. I imagine that his chemo will be extremely draining, and it sound like he could be fighting the effects of it for a while. I know it’s hard to swallow for him and Nuggets fans, but our best chance at a championship in franchise history is now entirely secondary to a man’s life.
by airforcefoo on Feb 17, 2010 11:54 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
So sorry for your losses.
And yeah, GK’s recovery from this is more important than any trophy.
Quite frankly, if it were up to me, I’d just throw in the towel.
by ParkHillNative on Feb 17, 2010 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
I like that GK is basically staring cancer right in the face (again) and saying F You. I was pretty touched by his press conference, especially the part where he mentioned how you wake up with it and still have it, go to bed and still have it. I think that was pretty powerful. Coming from someone who lost a family member to cancer, even if someone close to you has it you feel yourself going through the struggle as well. I think when it comes to a big enough entity like a fan base, and a loyal one at that, you almost feel as if you’re going through the struggle with a player or coach. That’s why I feel this sense of “We can do it, George” after today’s news.
Good luck GK. And btw, great work on this Andrew.
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F*ck cancer
Good luck in you fight against this terrible disease. Our thoughts and prayers are with you. This will be the most important win of our season.
by adub on Feb 17, 2010 6:05 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Squamous Cell Throat Cancer
My heartfelt prayers are with Coach and his family. I was diagnosed with the same cancer in February 2006. I started to shiver when I heard the news about Coach. The post earlier in the thread from another cancer survivor was spot on. To a small extent keeping an interest in the things you love can be a powerful force in your healing. On the other hand you don’t even want to know the side effects and challenges that come from 5 day a week chemo and radiation as well as the likelihood that he will need alternative nourishment options. I use that last statement in an intentionally vague manner as it represents one of the most difficult parts of treatment. Coach will need all the rest he can get . The physical toll from this treatment is dramatic but I am living proof here 4 years later that you can come back and resume your life and continue to pursue your dreams. I’m sure it will be the same for GK
by relgan on Feb 17, 2010 7:48 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for sharing relgan … great to hear you pulled through and are back on your normal life track!
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by Nate Timmons on Feb 18, 2010 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
I’ve had several family members die from Cancer so I know how fucked up it is. Here’s to a healthy and happy George Karl! (And a 2010 NBA championship to go with it!)
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