Game 48 Preview & Thread: Kings at Nuggets (7pm MST)
by Andrew Feinstein on Feb 1, 2010 11:28 AM MST
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Sacramento Kings at Denver Nuggets, Feb 1, 2010 7:00 PM MST
One of the few black marks on an otherwise splendid regular season have been the Nuggets two losses to the lowly Sacramento Kings (both games were played at Sacramento). The first time the Nuggets played Sacramento, they caught a peaking Kings team. Tonight? They catch a squad spiraling downward.
In one of those bizarre scheduling oddities that we see in the NBA from time-to-time, the Nuggets recently played the Kings twice at Sacramento within a two-week span, losing both games by a combined total of seven points. Looking at the Kings current record of 16-30, you almost forget that when these two teams first met on December 28th, the Kings had become the surprise darlings of the NBA and were threatening to sneak into the playoffs. Before beating Denver 106-101 that night (sans Tyreke Evans for Sacramento, sans Chauncey Billups for Denver), the Kings were playing near .500 ball, had overcome a 35-point deficit to beat the Bulls in Chicago and had taken the Cavaliers to overtime and the Lakers to double overtime (both were losses). At the time, I even suggested that Paul Westphal was doing the best job of any NBA coach to that point (right now I'd say it's George Karl, hands down...is there any dispute?).
Since then, the wheels have come off the Kings bandwagon. The Kings have won just twice in 16 games with the first of those two wins coming against - you guessed it - our Nuggets on January 9th. In that game, the Kings needed an Evans' buzzer beater to sink a Carmelo Anthony-less Nuggets squad that had pulled off a thrilling victory over the Cavaliers in Denver the night before. In fact, Evans torched the Nuggets all night in that Kings victory en route to 27 points off 10-15 shooting, unheard of for a rookie. Meanwhile for the Nuggets, Billups and Kenyon Martin once again picked up the slack in Melo's absence and were almost good enough to bring home a win for Denver.
So what's gone wrong in Sacramento? A lot of the blame may land on the shoulders of the "other K-Mart"; Kevin Martin. Martin, the team's best player before Evans arrived, rejoined the team from injury nine games ago and they've dropped eight of nine, including six straight during a recent Eastern Conference road trip. Since returning to the team he was once the de facto leader of, Martin has shot 50% from the field just once and has had a number of J.R. Smith circa two weeks ago type performances. Check out some of Martin's recent shooting nights: 4-10, 6-17, 3-9, 8-18, 1-7, 1-7, 1-9...egads!
Beyond the numbers, Martin has disrupted the rhythm of the team and Westphal hasn't figured out how to mesh Martin with Evans, both of whom are shooting guards with Evans being a better all-around player. We saw the same problem in Milwaukee when the Bucks imploded while rookie sensation Brandon Jennings and veteran Michael Redd didn't play well together, before Redd's season was shut down with yet another knee injury. And like Milwaukee, Sacramento has a huge problem when it comes to Martin: he makes too much money. Martin is due to make $13 million three seasons from now. Good luck finding a buyer for Martin.
(It must be noted, however, that Martin has picked up the pace in his last two outings combining for 64 points and shooting 50% from three-point range. He may not produce W's, but you always have to keep an eye on Kevin Martin.)
But the Kings being in a state of disarray should only benefit our Nuggets, winners of 12 of 15 games (could easily be 14 of 15 if they hadn't lost at Sacramento and at home to the lowly 76ers soon after the New Year). Quite simply, the Nuggets are the hottest team in the NBA right now and demonstrated as much by confidently beating the Spurs at San Antonio yesterday. And while most of the Nuggets players might be a bit weary tonight, the rumors are swirling that Carmelo Anthony will make his return from a sprained ankle. If the Nuggets can get a fresh Melo back tonight, we'll be looking at 13 wins in 16 games while the rest of the Western Conference continues to cannibalize itself. That's the homecoming we're looking for!
Kings Stiffs
-Kevin Martin: When you're supposedly the best player on your team but after rejoining them they lose eight of nine, something is wrong.
-Sean May: I saw May by the pool at the Palms Hotel in Vegas two summers ago and was convinced that if he dove in, the entire pool would overflow. Generously listed at 266 pounds, the perpetually overweight and out-of-shape May (uncharacteristic for a UNC guy) might go down in NBA history as another forgotten fat guy a la Robert "Tractor" Traylor and Oliver Miller.
-Hilton Armstrong: It's too bad Shelden Williams isn't on the Kings anymore, because by having Williams, May and Armstrong, the Kings would lead the league in guys-who-came-from-great-college-programs-and-were-drafted-early-in-the-first-round-but-are-completely-useless-in-the-NBA.
Kings Non-Stiffs
-Jon Brockman: I've been pimping Brockman all season and will do it again here. Brockman epitomizes my theory that if you have a second round pick, you should always take a bruising power forward from a major league college program (even if he's undersized by NBA standards). While the Nuggets played penny-wise/pound-foolish with their 2009 second round pick, they passed on DeJuan Blair and Brockman, both of whom have panned out nicely as NBA role players.
-Tryeke Evans: When you're mentioned with LeBron James and Oscar Robertson as only the third rookie ever to average over 20 points, five rebounds and five assists, you know you're a non-stiff. Unfortunately, Evans' rebounding has dipped a bit to 4.6 and he may miss being a part of that illustrious company. And unfortunately for Nuggets fans, Evans has a bruised left hip and may not play tonight...taking away the only real reason to watch the Kings play.
-Jason Thompson: The 6'11", 250-pound Thompson seems to have hit a sophomore slump of sorts during this recent losing stretch for the Kings, but he's still an effective big man and a ball hawk, evident by the 16 rebounds (five offensive) he grabbed against the Bobcats on Saturday night.
Opposition's Take: Sactown Royalty
Photo courtesy of AP Photos: Aaron J. Latham
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If Melo plays tonight
I get the feeling the team will rely heavily on him. Judging by Chauncey’s post game interview yesterday….he is READY to have Melo back.
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45 minutes for Billups?
Serious. Give the man the night off. Let Lawson and AC — who isn’t half as bad as a lot of you think he is — shoulder the load. Even without Melo, I think the Nuggets have enough talent to beat the reeling Kings.
A rested and fresh Billups is going to be very important if the Nuggets hope to make a deep playoff run.
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About AC
He’s definitely the worst point guard on the team. I agreed with calls earlier in the season to reduce his minutes. But it isn’t that he is bad: Billups and Lawson are that good.
Besides, I’d like to see Lawson run with the starters tonight and put up big numbers. It would help get him out of his slump, methinks.
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Actually...
AC really is that bad…out of 67 PGs on Hollinger’s ratings AC ranks 63 out of 67. That’s atrocious.
He's one of the worst PGs in the game
I’m convinced the Nugs would be better off bringing in a hungry D-league player to replace him. His shot is awful, and his passing isn’t much better.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
If AC was any good
he would have gotten offers from other teams as a free agent. He didn’t. No other team in the league even offered a minimum contract, and no team, not even the nuggets, offered more than a one year deal. If he’s your third PG who plays in garbage time or due to injury, he is passable. Anything more than that and you are substantially below average at PG.
you forgot his inability to guard anyone
by Rainbow skyline on Feb 1, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
Didn't include it
cause that’s the least of his concern.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Look at the BIG picture
Melo as at his best when OTHER offensive assets are on the floor. If you put AC in a lineup with Melo…..you are basically sandbagging Melo and allowing an extremely double team. If you want proof….look it up. Every shot AC hasn’t managed to clank off the rim was only because there was no defender in his zipcode.
AC SUCKS AND THE WHOLE NBA KNOWS IT
I can't even take Fly Agaric seriously...
and I quote “and AC – who isn’t half as bad as a lot of you think he is”
AC is horrible. Unbelievably bad. He might be the only Nugget who makes this team worse.
Also, the reason why the Kings were peaking last time we played them is Kevin Martin wasn’t in and he actually makes that team worse.
As far as Melo goes, I love him to death, and I look forward to having him back, but there’s no evidence to suggest that we’re a worse team with him out. I know I’m going to get killed for this, but those are the facts.
In fact AC is even worse than people think because....
When he’s playing, Chauncey and Ty Lawson, who are super super efficient, aren’t in the lineup. Not only do you downgrade to a D-league level player…someone who might be the worst player in the NBA (Dahntay Jones is putting up a strong case in Indiana…and he was the worst starter until they benched him), but you’re keeping two of your most efficient players on the bench!
I don't disagree with any of that
But Billups needs to play less minutes.
After 45 minutes yesterday, I suggest he get the night off against a bad team. You are overreacting, my friend.
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Billups can't ever take a game off
Nugs can be beat by any team in the league without him.
Don't take me serious.
I don’t care. All I care about is the team winning a championship. And we need Billups to be healthy and rested. The guy has gone deep into the playoffs what, six straight years now? I don’t think AC getting pack-up point guard minutes is the end of the world if it means less wear-and-tear on Chauncey.
I have a feeling that most people who post on this blog have no idea the sort of physical strain that playing elite professional basketball does.
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Point taken that a whole NBA season is grueling, and we need to save Chauncey, but playing AC more isn’t the answer. I’m fine with AC getting 3-5 minutes a game….anything more than that and he’s a huge, huge detriment to this team.
I rather agree with Agaric that AC is not the worst player EVER
he’s had some key steals, key 3’s at key times, and yes some key turnovers…but he does bring a veteran presence that cannot be dismissed entirely
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"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I got your -100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
right here….pffft
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
seriously what does this even mean?????
its stupid
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
It means you win, you had more zero's
and samdman dismissed himself from the debate in defeat…or so I can only assume.
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ahhh...well thanks for clarifying!
lol….
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
sorry I don't know what JR flips means?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
IDK
how anyone in their right mind could suggest that ANTHONY CARTER be inserted into a rotation on any NBA team.
He might be a terrific person off the court with his charities an all, however when it comes to NBA basketball he is ineffective and NBA challenged.
Let Ty Lawson run the show when CB1 gets tired.
How can anyone defend Anthony Carter’s ineptness from the PG’s position? That is a loss waiting to happen. Carter is an overrated on defense has no offense and is the Turn over King
Seriously you AC supporters need to stop smoking dope and take off those rose colored glasses
Ha ha
Clearly you missed some of the finer points.
Again, all I suggested was Billups get the night off after playing 45 minutes yesterday. It is important he be fresh for the playoffs. Remember, we are expecting a deep playoff push.
This means Ty Lawson plays Billups’ minutes. And this means someone needs to give Ty a breather.
In no way am I suggesting AC become a regular part of the rotation.
Serious, just mention the letters A and C around here and, like flies on shit, the haters bring it.
Peace and love, from one Nuggets fan to another.
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I understand the situation you refer to as I am under the same feeling about
the wear and tear on Kmart, Bird, and Nene. I eluded to this in the fan post "Is Stan Committed.
When it comes to AC well he’s like Crack to GK. Especially if he should have a game where he hits a couple of rare shots. GK doesn’t know when to pull his ass.
JR could run the point while Triple A played the two. Chauncey gets his rest
Peace out
I'd love to see a big time blow out tonight ...
If Denver can get an early lead and really put it on the Kings then Billups should be able to get some rest. He needs it and he deserves it.
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by Nate Timmons on Feb 1, 2010 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
Ya your right
The nuggets would do much better in the playoffs this year without melo (sarcasm)
by Cargo5 on Feb 1, 2010 11:46 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't even see that
The idea that the team is better off without Melo is a joke.
I am OK with taking my lumps on AC, but Melo? Ugh. I posted about this already. The Nuggets are perfectly capable of playing bad basketball without Melo. See Houston. See OKC.
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Did you watch last year's playoffs?
where Melo was in beast mode and almost got us to the finals? No Melo, no wcf(and Chauncey of course). I wonder if any Thunder fans believe Durant make no difference, or Lebron in Cleveland. We have a better supporting cast but we need Melo.
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Yes I know
Obviously you didn’t comprehend the sarcasm in my statement. The nuggets need melo, no arguing there
by Cargo5 on Feb 1, 2010 11:49 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I was replying to the orginial comment from chantech
press the up key to see to whom I was responding.
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He is what makes the Nugs into serious championship contenders
Without Melo the Nugs would struggle to get to the WCF and never make it to the finals. With him, they can beat any team in the league if he is sharing the ball.
wait a minute..
.weren’t you and I debating last week about Melo not being necessary to make the playoffs? You’re position being that we could get there without him?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I'm not saying that we don't need him...
I’m just saying that the numbers tell a different story. They say that without Melo, the Nuggets aren’t worse.
I mean, we’ve won games against the Cavs (arguably the best team in the league) and San Antonio without him.
Yeah, he’s awesome on offense, but the rest of the team is fine without him taking up a lot of shots and shooting at an inefficient rate. Also, you’re not taking into account how much worse we get on defense with Melo in there.
Also, Joey Graham is horrible…
First off, the nuggets would have also won both those games if melo was playing
And did you forget about the blowout in OKC? We could have really used him there, and I think we could have pulled away with a win if he was in the lineup
by Cargo5 on Feb 1, 2010 11:56 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
This statement is ridiculous...
How can you say a team would have won both games if he was playing? A large part of how well we did in the SAS was how efficiently Kmart shot and also the large percentage of 3’s we hit. If Melo is taking a lot of those shots and he happens to have an off night, how do we still win?
That's great logic...
Because a guy puts up 25 points on an off night, his team would have won with him. So, I guess Indiana should have won all those games in which Dahntay Jones put up 25 points? They’re clearly better with him in there!
thats piss poor logic
because you’re comparing apples to oranges. Indiana has a lousy team. Dahntay Jones has never scored 25 points on an off night and you know it. Denver is a good enough team to win with Melo having an off night. The point I was making was that Melo easily replaces K-marts production on the offensive end if he’s in there, and Kmart is still playing so you’re much better off with Melo scoring 25 and Kmart putting in 12 rather then just Kmart putting in 27
Alright, I'll bite...
For the sake of argument, since you brought it up, let’s replace KMart’s 27 points with Melo scoring 25 and Kmart putting in 12. KMart shot at a ridiculous 12-21, 1-1 from 3 point land and 2-3 free throws. His eFG% was was 62% yesterday. Yes, he played above expectation, but he still shot an eFG% of 62%.
Carmelo has shot an eFG% of 48% this year and a true shooting percentage of 58%. Assuming he scored 25 points at his usual efficiency, he would have required 4 or 5 more possessions to score his 25 points. If he uses up 4-5 more possessions…maybe we win that game, and maybe we don’t. I know this, it’s a much closer ball game.
So, let’s say Kmart still scores his 12 points, and he takes 3 possessions to do so. You’ve now effectively taken Kmart’s possesions away and given them to Melo, when yesterday he happened to use them very effiiciently.
KMart getting Melo’s shots yesterday resulted in probably the best possible scenario we could have hoped for. Sure, he’s not always going to shoot 62%, but in the small sample of 2 games where we won, you can’t say that having Carmelo would have been better than having Kmart.
Also...
That game was a 5 or 6 point ballgame going into the final couple minutes when San Antonio started fouling and Kmart hits a meaningless 3.
Melo inefficiently using those 3 or 4 extra possessions possibly makes that a tie ballgame. You can’t say with certainty that we absolutely win those games with Melo in there just because he puts up 25 points on an off night.
You are comparing a very small sample size to a large one
as in 7 games compared to last year and 35 this year. Melo averages 29 ppg, you are telling me our D is 29 ppg worse with Melo in? Which would balance the difference of Melo in and out. It is the responsibility of the other players to have the same mindset with Melo in as they did when he was out. But at the same time they need Melo to step up because it gives them less of a burdern which will keep them fresher for the playoffs. Chauncey was more then relieved that Melo is coming back today and he always knows best.
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Phil....
I agree that the sample size is small, but I’m looking at every single minute that Melo isn’t on the floor, and how our team performs vs every minute where he is on the floor. The sample size becomes significantly larger in this case. This # is also known in some circles as “adjust +/-” (yeah, there are some problems with adjusted +/- but I won’t go into them).
It turns out our offense becomes slightly worse per possession (not a whole lot as some of our other more efficient players like CB and Nene take more shots and use up more possessions) while our defense becomes significantly better.
I agree that over the long run, if teams figure out how to adjust, we might be worse without Melo, and to win close games at the end of quarters, you need some shot creation, but so far, the numbers, and the results would indicate that we aren’t worse with Melo out of the lineup. You can see what Pop tried to do yesterday…he doubled CB every chance he got. In the future, I expect teams to completely lay off Kmart and Joey Graham while double teaming Chauncey and Nene. If they do make this adjustment, it’ll be interesting to see if we get worse.
I must get to class so I don't have much time to debate
but I’m quite sure the team ppg with Melo in is higher then out, this stat is the most significant when it comes to how well an offense does. It seems after all you do agree Melo is valuable to the team, but in the short term it doesn’t make a big diff. If so then OK, I can give you that but come playoff time no one will be saying Melo does not make a difference and that’s a guarantee.
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That's exactly what I'm saying...
I do think Melo brings more to the table than he takes away. For evidence of this see last year’s Dallas game where he hit the game winning 3. The spots where you see teams struggle who don’t have great “shot creation” is in situations where they need to get a basket in close games against good defensive teams. If you want to see examples of this, watch the Houston Rockets play or watch the Portland Trailblazers play. They’re good teams, and they win more than their fair share of games with all their stars out…they just struggle when they need to score. I don’t think the Nuggets have as big of a problem with this as our team is pretty good all around offensively.
More points doesn’t necessarily mean better offense. A great example of this is Monta Ellis. Points scored is a function of total possessions, and usage. Dahntay Jones had a few 20 point games in Indiana, you wouldn’t say his offense is good just because he scored a lot of points would you? The Spurs have won games in the past averaging around 85 points a game. Does that mean their offense sucks?
What is your point then?
You say we are not worse without him, then you say he brings more than he takes away. I dont get your point. Lets clear this up once and for all. The Nugs can survive for the short term without Melo because this team is stacked, but there is no way, and I mean NO WAY the Nuggets are better without him. Period.
If you think about it...
You say we are not worse without him, then you say he brings more than he takes away.
These statements are NOT mutually exclusive.
by Count Shipula on Feb 1, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
BTW
Does anyone else think this is the best Nuggets team of our NBA era? I do.
by Count Shipula on Feb 1, 2010 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
I do
But it isn’t without its faults.
And the lack of a quality center could keep this team from winning a championship.
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Because a quailty center is necessary to win championships...
I guess those 1990’s Bulls won championships because of Bill Cartwright..
Bill Cartwright boxed out
Just saying.
I’m not slagging on Nene. but he is a power forward playing out of position.
Fact.
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Most teams aren't playing with true "centers" nowadays...
It’s pretty much broken down into a PG, 2 wings, and 2 bigs.
Fact.
ohhh, I like this debate...
…I wish I didn’t have to leave. But, yeah, fewer teams use centers traditionally anymore.
by Count Shipula on Feb 1, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
I don't disagree
A lot of teams do go without centers.
But look at recent championship teams: LA, Boston, San Antonio, Miami. They all had quality centers. I know, Timmy Duncan is a power forward blah blah blah. No. He’s a center. And Amare Staudamire is a power forward playing the C, just like Nene.
I really don’t care what works for most other teams. I care about what works to win championships.
Denver can win a championship with its current line-up. I believe this. But it is going to require some luck to stay healthy and a serious of consistently good games from our bigs.
Right now Kenyon is playing great and Nene is slumping a bit. We are going to need the stars aligned and everyone playing at the top of their game to beat LA (Gasol, Bynum, Odom) and Cleveland (Shaq, Ilgauskus).
We are 2-0 against those teams right now. So, my faith in this line-up is justified. But the prevailing opinion that a dominating big or even someone decent enough to expand the rotation a bit, is, I think correct.
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I agree...
We have been lucky without a big injury to one of our bigs. In order to make a run, we need all our bigs healthy as we seriously lack front court depth.
Are you saying Kendrick Perkins or Big Baby Davis are dominant centers? Is Andrew Bynum a dominant center too?
While Bynum and Perkins are not dominant centers, they don’t need to be because they have all-star caliber, seven-footers playing along side of them.
I mean, it’s cool if you want to get nitpicky about centers, but I think when I am talking about a team needing an elite big and mentioned those teams that I am referencing Gasol and Garnet, who, much like Timmy Duncan, are technically forwards.
People on the Internet really like to argue. I forget this sometimes. :)
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Since when is Kendrick perkins a quality center
Dude just takes up space, he’s a less talented Zach Randolph
What about Nene?
I would say he is a top five center. If you mean: “we need a bigger center to compete with LA so Nene can kill people at PF,” I think you might be right.
by Count Shipula on Feb 1, 2010 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
eh...
I would say that the top five centers this year (based on production alone) are Howard, Lee, Lopez, Gasol (Marc), and Nene. Nene does a little of everything and is incredibly efficient. He might be the most important player on the team.
by Count Shipula on Feb 1, 2010 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
YES!!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Do you think we are better without Melo?
Seriously?
To my knowledge
No one has said that the Nuggets are better without ’Melo. “Not worse” is not the same as “better.”
by Count Shipula on Feb 1, 2010 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
Lawyer wordy BS
Fine. We are absolutely positively in the long run WORSE without him.
What do you consider the long run?
I can show you evidence from at least 2 seasons that we’re not worse when he’s not in the lineup…
okay you have me baffled
Is your position that the Nuggets can win and make the playoffs without Melo? Because you seem to be coming back to the point that you assert we are not worse when he’s not playing.
whaaaa?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
My position is...
Melo brings several things to the table. The first is depth, the second is shot creation and ability to score in key situations. On this team, whether any of that matters currently is up for debate. In other words, are we worse with Melo in the short term? I’d say probably not. Are we worse without him if he continues to not play and teams are able to adjust? Probably yes, but that remains to be proven.
With the talent on this team, we make the playoffs without Melo. Whether we can close out tough games or get the points we need against elite teams is a different story. That’s where I think we actually do need Melo.
If you compared our regular season record, assuming he was out for the whole seson, to our regular season record with him in there, I assume it would be very similar.
And if we didnt have Melo for the whole season..
there is no way we get the 2 seed. We become Portland, Phoenix, Memphis, Utah, or any other pretender.
I disagree
I think you underestimate how much talent we have across the rest of the roster.
You’re saying without Melo, we become the 3rd or 4th seed? I still think we’re better than Dallas, Utah, and SA. So, the net difference with and without Melo is…4 games?
I know how much talent this team has..
But take away any of our key pieces ie Billups, Melo or any one of our bigs for an extended period of time and we are in trouble. Yes, without Melo we are in the middle of the pack in the West. Remember, George Karl is the coach.
are you crazy?!
Do you look at the other teams in the west, without Melo we are an 8 seed at best. Just like without Chauncey we were a 6 seed at best
Do you think we can win in the playoffs without Melo?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Yes, I think we can win in the playoffs without Melo
Do I think we can win a championship? Probably not.
reading your stuff is little bit like
watching LOST – (of which I am a HUGE fan and cannot wait for the new and final season) but is more confusing
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Lost is good
The only television I like aside from sports.
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doesn't the last season premiere
like….tonight?! or is it tomorrow, wait whats the date over there, damn New Zealand and its day in the future grumble grumble
Its on Tuesday night
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I sure don't.
I’ve been countering this opinion fairly strongly in the last couple of days.
Keep in mind, I can be just as critical on Melo as the next guy. He is not without his faults. But the Nuggets are a championship-caliber team because of him.
But you can say this about Billups and Martin, too. Minus any one of those guys and Denver is just a playoff team.
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wicked angry flash back to econometrics
Never mention the words mutually exclusive again arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!
The point is...
Most people, and I used to be part of this group, overvalue Melo’s contributions and significance to the Nuggets.
So far, most objective evidence I’ve seen shows that this is the case. More credit should be given to Nene, CB, Ty Lawson and Birdman for this team’s success.
More credit
Should go to Chauncey Billups and Kenyon Martin.
Birdman is a terrible on the ball defender who makes up for it with good rebounding and (less so this season) blocked shots. Even Nene isn’t the dominating inside presence that he should be. He is in denial about his size and plays too soft underneath.
Not to slag Nene and Andersen, I like ’em fine. But when talking about team MVPs, I think it is clear that it is Melo, Billups and Martin, sans doubt.
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I value everybody..
But to suggest they are better without him or minimise his importance because we have done well without him is ridiculous.
This is incorrect
PPG is not the most significant stat to determine how well an offense does. Seriously, just ask Golden State. Their PPG stat is like second in the league, but their offense is middle of the pack.
With that said, you are correct that the Nuggets’ offense is better with with ‘Melo in it. However, Chantech’s point is also true that their defense is worse with him playing. If you believe that offense and defense are equally important, these attributes cancel each other out.
by Count Shipula on Feb 1, 2010 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
The above post...
…refers to Phil H.’s statement, despite not appearing directly underneath.
by Count Shipula on Feb 1, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
GS has maybe the best offense in the league, why are they bad?
they have the worst D in the league, worse then their O is good. So I would still argue team PPG does show how good one’s offense is.
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More points != Best Offense
You, like George Karl, don’t understand pace. A few years ago, with Melo and AI, there was a common misconception that the Nuggets played horrible defense because they gave up a lot of points. In actuality, they played at a faster pace than almost any other team in the league and so while they scored a lot of points, they also gave up a lot of points.
Think about it, if you’re shooting with 15 seconds left on the shot clock consistently, the other team is also going to have more possessions.
The Nuggets defense was actually ranked 10 or 12th in actual defensive efficiency while giving up a ton of points. It was actually our offense which wasn’t as effective as people would think even though we scored a lot of points. It turns out our offense was 14th or 15th…while we scored a lot of points, given more possessions, the opposing teams scored more points since their offense was more efficient.
Moral of the story, faster pace + more points doesn’t equate to a better offense. Shipula is right, Golden State’s offense is middle of the pack even though they maybe top 3 in points scored.
That's a certain style they can play because they have good offensive weapons
are you really trying to argue that teams that score the most don’t have the good offenses? Ignore D completely, I said OFFENSE. Also I would love to be able to coach an NBA team as well as George Karl, so thank you for the comparison.
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm trying to argue
Teams that score the most points in the league don’t necessarily have the best offenses. This doesn’t include Phoenix. It just means they play at a faster pace.
Points scored DOES NOT equate to GOOD OFFENSE. If you looked at the Celtics before Garnett got injured, they didn’t score many points. Their offense was one of the best in the league. You want to know why? They scored on an amazing 60% of possessions. They were very, very efficient with every single possession they had.
No they had the most efficient offense
which doesn’t have to equate to best offense. They couldn’t score as many points as the Warriors on their d as the warriors could.
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Do you know what most efficient offense implies?
It implies that given the same number of possessions they’d score more points than the Warriors…
Warriors shoot more and score more but less % of possessions, Celtics shoot far less and score less but are more efficient % wise. You can’t assume the same amount of possessions because that will never happen in an NBA game featuring the Warriors and Celtics.
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For the most part...
Both teams in an NBA game get a roughly equal number of possessions unless you’re George Karl and squander possessions at the end of quarters…
The Warriors have to take more shots to score that many points. They score that many points because they create more possessions in a game. If the Celtics played the Warriors, they’d blow them out because 1. their offense is more efficient per possession and they get more possessions, and 2. their defense is way more efficient than the Warriors
Right they create more possesions
so they don’t have the equal amount of possessions.
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Think about an NBA game...
If one team turns it over, the other team gets a possession. As soon as one team scores, the other team gets a possession. Possessions are roughly evenly distributed to both teams throughout a game!
I'll chime in here to say that
Even if Boston and GS had different amounts of possessions, the difference would not be great enough that GS would have any sort of advantage.
Here’s the thing. If GS had, say, 20 more possessions than Boston, than GS would stand a much better shot at winning. But if Boston had 20 more possessions, than they would stand a much better shot at winning as well.
However, Boston has one of the best defenses in the league, and are much less likely to give up those 20 extra possessions in the first place. Whereas GS has a terrible defense, and are more likely to give up more possessions. The more possessions they give up to Boston, the higher chance Boston will have of converting simply because they are a much more efficient offensive team.
by Uh on Feb 1, 2010 7:38 PM MST up reply actions
I will not debate you on GS having the worst D ever
but I solely meant offense.
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Ok, but GS doesn't have a great offense, which is what chantech was trying to explain
Golden State’s PPG is hugely inflated by the sheer number of possessions they get per game (roughly 100, good for 1st in the league). But, as chantech said earlier, if you are getting a lot of possessions, then you are also giving up a lot of possessions. This becomes a problem for a team like GS because they shoot a poor percentage and give up a high percentage (thanks to terrible D).
So Boston, by virtue of making a lot of the shots that they take, will benefit more from the high-possession game then will GS.
by Uh on Feb 1, 2010 7:45 PM MST up reply actions
I disagree
I believe they have one of the best, they have some amazing offensive talents.
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Single talents will not win a game if they are inefficient
The Warriors have a team FG% of 47%. Compare that to Boston’s 48.4%.
Add to that the often-severe lack of ball movement, plus poor decisions (Monta Monta Monta), and you get a fast-paced, roughly average offense
by Uh on Feb 1, 2010 7:52 PM MST up reply actions
LIES. DAMN LIES. and STATISTICS :)
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I'd like to rest Bird
and put Malik Allen in the rotation until the all-star break. Bird can’t jump anymore.
He can jump
His problem is jumping prematurely. Plus, his hands are downright horrible.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
I agree with this
I don’t want Andersen benched. But his productivity is clearly down this year.
I do want to see Malik Allen get more minutes, however. See sig. :)
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I disagree
He winces all the time, his timing is off and he’s had dunks the last couple of weeks where it looked like he could barely clear the rim.
He’s dealing with the injury by doing better rebounding, but he does not have his legs. He is getting old.
He's not THAT old
But he’s banged up, badly. I don’t want him benched either, but maybe it’s time for Bird to take an early vacation. The upcoming games are getting brutal and the Nuggets are going to need a HEALTHY Bird. If Malik “Taco” Allen the chance, or even Joey Graham when Melo comes back. Simple as that.
Add Petro to the list
but did you see the alley-oop to Bird from Chauncey last night? It was perfect. The ball went right through his hands on the way up to the rim.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Also, George Karl doensn't understand Pace...
And I quote: "Nuggets coach George Karl said he expected Anthony to try to play Monday against Sacramento, when Denver returns home following a three-game road trip. The Nuggets have gone 3-1 without Anthony.
Before the game, Karl said the expected fast pace of the game held Anthony out as much as anything. He said Anthony still wasn’t comfortable making sharp moves."
The Spurs play at one of the slowest paces in the league…especially since TP is out. How could he possibly make that statement?
because the Nuggets combat the spurs by playing up-tempo
The Spurs want to force us into a half-court offense, because thats where they excel and we struggle. We want to play fast pace because that’s where we excel and the Spurs struggle. Apparently, unlike George Karl, you do not understand simple basketball strategy
You proved my point exactly!
The Spurs want to play a half court offense because they execute better in the half court, and the Nuggets don’t.
Why would he possibly make a statement that he thought the game would be fast paced when playing one of the slower paced teams in the league?? I understand us trying to speed the pace up, but that’s only one end of the equation…
Dispute
G.K. best in the league? Please. Let me know when the team is above .500 on the road and hasn’t lost to 7 teams below .500 on the year. Teams with the best coach have more than a goal of .500 on the road being a “great” record. Read the ESPN article about the game last night. Near the end G.K. tells Billups to burn clock. Billups ignores him and puts up a quick three that goes in. Billups is the coach of this team.
This team is playing very well right now, but that has more to do with Billups and Kmart stepping up than with the coach. Look at Houston to see a team where the coach is getting everything from his players. Karl gets credit for being the coach on a good team, but being “best” means doing something that another coach wouldn’t do in the same situation, getting a team to overachieve or to be focused and ready against lesser competition. Let me know when you see Karl do something that a high school head coach wouldn’t do, and I’ll let you know when I see the team know what it’s doing on inbound plays and stops switching on a 1-5 pick and roll.
by KarlSucks on Feb 1, 2010 1:09 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Reasons why Karl Sucks...
Just off the top of my head:
1. We never, ever get 2 for 1’s at the end of halves. Good teams who are well coached (Houston, San Antonio, and the Lakers). Why are we routinely wasting possessions?
2. His out of timeout plays are almost always Iso plays.
3. He doesn’t understand the concept of “pace”.
4. Like KarlSucks mentioned, he tells his team to switch EVERY SINGLE PICK AND ROLL. This results in tons of mismatches.
5. He likes to play the most inefficient lineups possible. He has gotten better about that this year but last year’s lineups were terrible.
AND
He sucks because you have one of the most energetic players in the NBA (Rodman like) who doesn’t need plays drawn up for him sitting on the bench.
Did you read the ...
… chrisandersenfiles.com blogpost on “crimestopper” tweeting gang references. Balkman turned himself into a loser if his slacking in practice reputation is to be believed. I’m surprised he hasn’t been cut yet.
Balkman doesn't give a rats shit at practice
so he doesn’t deserve to play and apparently he is fine with this, so he doesn’t have a great mentality to the game either.
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Balkman is TERRIBLE!
Dude has two good games rebounding…2! and people here say hes the next Dennis Rodman. He had his chance early in the year, he couldn’t do it, he belongs in the D-league
The Nuggets really needed Chauncey for those 45 mins yesterday
but we may pay for that decision tonight if the rest of the team doesn’t step up
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"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple
I think Melo is going to go off like a wild man tonight :)
30 pts – 10 rebounds – 6 assists :)
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PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
that would be great
I think Chauncey and Karl were gambling on Melo being available tonight. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
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"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple
If he takes 40 shots to get those 30 points...
Is that still going off? Because by your definition Monta Ellis goes off every night…but I wouldn’t want him on our team.
Does Melo take 40 shots a game?
Did we miss something?
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"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple
wat?
Did I say anything about Melo taking 40 shots to make 30? He could go 15-15 and make 30 pts…or is my math haywire?
Did you forget about FTs that also contribute to the 30pts?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I guess my point was...
Just because someone puts up 30 points a game doesn’t mean they had a great game. No, you didn’t say he takes 40 shots a game.
SDcat09 knows that ... most folks around here do.
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I also mentioned 10 rebounds and 6 assists...
to go along with the 30 pts. Does that make a great game?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Chris Tomasson just tweeted: Tyreke Evans out tonight "tweaked ankle".
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funny sentence, a tweet, a Tyreke and a tweaked
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
To further the does a star make a team better discussion...
The Kings actually play better without Tyreke Evans….
In fact...
I’d argue that the biggest steal they got out of last year’s draft wasn’t Tyreke Evans but Omri Casspi.
Are the Lakers better without Kobe too?
And the Cavs without Lebron? And the Spurs without Duncan? And Miami without Wade? And Suns without Nash? etc.etc.etc? Just stop.
To answer your question...
Definitely not in Lebron’s case. He’s by far the best player in the league, and it’s not even close.
The Spurs are definitely worse with Duncan. The Heat are significantly worse without Wade.
Dragic is only slightly better than AC in terms of horrible point guards. That team will take 10 point leads into the 4th quarter and will blow them in 5 minutes with Dragic in there…he’s terrible.
So you mean...
Teams play better without their stars… unless they need them.
My brain hurts now..lol
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
No...
Lebron, Duncan, Wade, Nash are all stars.
Players who aren’t actually stars who people think are stars: Monta Ellis, Tyreke Evans, Kevin Martin, Joe Johnson.
Players who aren’t considered stars who are actually stars: Nene, Rajon Rondo (people are starting to see how truly good this guy is).
What do the guys in category 2 have in common? They score a lot of points and are great shot creators….so people think they’re good when they’re actually detrimental to their team. Specifically, if all a player does is score, it doesn’t necessarily mean their team is better with them in there because 1. they might not be scoring efficiently and 2. they might not be doing very much of anything else to contribute to their teams or 3. they might be horrible on defense.
Where do you think Melo falls on your star spectrum?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I can't say for sure because I'm biased and actually love him...
I would say way better than the guys who aren’t stars but not on the Lebron/Wade/Roy level. Ellis, Kevin Martin, Joe Johnson, and Michael Redd make their teams worse. Melo obviously brings something to the table…I just don’t think he’s as valuable as the top guys that he’s often in the conversation with are.
I had a conversation earlier with a buddy of mine and he asked if I’d take Wade straight up in a trade for Melo and I wasn’t sure based on Wade’s injury history and how Melo had played this year. The #s would say take the trade in a heartbeat.
I think Nene matters to this team than Melo does…a lot of that is the Nuggets lack of big depth, but I can’t say for sure.
Not that I'm saying #'s mean everything...
But just to offer up a complete argument here are Denver’s #s this season with Melo…I’ve included sample size in terms of total minutes that player was on the floor. Also, I use the APBR formula for possessions instead of Basketball-reference’s more accurate formula…but the ratios are still accurate.
Offensive Efficiency: 1.2781663970125
Defensive Efficiency: 1.19312216207371
Differential: 0.0850442349387892
Minutes Played: 1451.93333333333
We’re obviously good with Melo. For each offensive and defensive possession, the Nuggets are .085 points better than the opposition.
Here are the #s without Melo:
Offensive Efficiency: 1.20842711426109
Defensive Efficiency: 1.14185085623258
Differential: 0.0665762580285094
Minutes Played: 820.466666666667
While we are slightly worse, we aren’t significantly worse. Earlier in the season, the discrepancy was even smaller. This suggests to me that if the season progresses and we play more games without Melo, teams will adjust and we’ll eventually see that over the long run we’re worse without him but for a few games, or for a couple weeks even, this team is still very good without him.
By comparison, here is DWade
All minutes Miami has played without Dwade this year:
Offensive Efficiency: 1.04368670545141
Defensive Efficiency: 1.18277549190273
Differential: -0.139088786451316
Minutes Played: 547.0
All minutes played with him:
Offensive Efficiency: 1.2308335015256
Defensive Efficiency: 1.16668920428489
Differential: 0.0641442972407118
Minutes Played: 1714.36666666667
They’re significantly worse when he’s not in there.
Again...
Take these #s with a little bit of a grain of salt because it also illustrates how strong these player’s supporting casts are. Specifically, after DWade, the rest of Miami’s team is horrible.
The Nuggets have a very strong supporting cast. Credit Wark and the Nugget’s front office for putting together a great roster, and in particular, getting great value with Arron Afflalo.
No...
I’m definitely not a trade JR guy. With the exception of this year (where I think we’re terribly misusing the guy), we’re way better with him in there. Plus I don’t want to see AC playing shooting guard again.
Last year, I was a huge advocate of play JR over DJ cause he makes our team significantly better.
Point taken, but this started with Melo..
You say we are “not worse” without him and I disagree. Monte, Evans, Martin etc are not in his league. Are you comparing those guys to Melo?
Not exactly..
I’m comparing them to Melo only in the sense that people overvalue all those players because of their ability to create shots and score a lot of points by taking a lot of shots.
There’s an aspect of does he make his teammates better, what else does he do, that makes Melo significantly better than those other players. Also, intangibles of does the guy win? Does he want to win?
Melo is significantly better than those other guys
Just so we’re both clear about that…
But he’s not close to Lebron’s or DWade’s level.
+100
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Seems to me...
That things are going pretty well if the worst thing we have to worry about is whether or not our star player (and one of the best players in the history of the franchise, current all-star, potential MVP candidate) is making the team better. What a crazy convseration!
by Pusherman on Feb 1, 2010 3:05 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, how about we trade Lawson for Boykins (he actually is in the NBA again..)
/sarcasm
Well, Boykins seems to have found a job backing up Randy Foye and Gilbert Arenas on the Washington Generals Suck Wizards!
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"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Tomasson also tweeting that Melo still doesn't know if he'll play tonight ...
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boo:(
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
This is a great opportunity for our bench players to step up
In a perfect world, we will lead 79-30 by halftime, so that George Karl has enough reason to take out Chauncey, KMart, and Nene for the game. We trot out a lineup of Lawson-Smith-Afflalo-Birdman-Stone Hands for the rest of the third quarter and the first half of the fourth, until the Nuggets lead 128-67. Then, Karl subs out Lawson for AC, Smith for Renaldo Balkman, Birdman for Malik Allen, and Afflalo for Rocky. I’d be 100% certain to watch the garbage time if a lineup of AC-Rocky-Balkman-Allen-Petro came out, even if just for 6 minutes. Because in that span, Rocky would score 11 points on three dunks, a 720-degree layup, and a no-look halfcourt shot, while Malik Allen will go 0-3, with the three bricked shots being his trademark turnaround 16-foot brick, while Petro and AC combine to set an NBA record for “turnovers in 6 minutes.”
Of course, we know that it won’t happen. But we can dream, right?
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"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
well this will chap the hides of all the GK detractors
Coach of the Month for January
http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_14311129
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Well the NBA seems to think it was...so you know there's that...
Hopefully Chauncey will be named player of the month as well :)
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
12-3 in January and Karl played his hot hands well in the month.
Kudos.
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I made this into a FanShot..
FYI
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis." - Chris Paul
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Can somebody tell me how many times GK has won Coach of the Month and when
so that I can research the team’s record in the month after receiving that award?
By the way, it’s nice to see the Rockies improve in the off-season. If they win the NL West and beat the Dodgers, and if Denver gets to the Finals…..SUCK THAT, L.A.!
Beat El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciúncula!
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
No it won't remember it is all the players who are responsible
well not when we lose, then it’s all on the coach….but hey.
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wait has he? or are saying he should be...
completely agree if he wins…
now lets make sure stern doesnt give billups all star spot to evans or ellis
maybe this is old news but Interesting info on Coby Karl
He signed a 10-day contract with Golden State….do we play them anytime soon?
http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_14307754?nclick_check=1
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Not anytime in the next 10 days.
Of course, Anthony Tolliver and Cartier Martin started for them AND contributed decent stat lines earlier this year for the Warriors, so you never know. Plus, since Don Nelson coaches them, Coby could play at power forward, which they have a slight gap at since 1) Anthony Randolph is injured. 2) Andris Biedrins is sucking, so Nelson is putting the 6’6" Maggette at center, and 3) Nelson doesn’t want to start Turiaf because Turiaf plays defense.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
UGH
Beat Sacramento! just doesn’t have the ring to it that Beat LA! has.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Hastings said today...
“There are people in the NBA that don’t want the Nuggets in the NBA finals. They have haters up there. And if Stern doesn’t pick Chauncey Billups (for the all-star game) that would give some validity to the conspiracy theorists. Nobody else in the west is more deserving than Chauncey Billups.”
Based on Numbers...
There is a case for Kamen, who is having a great season, statistically.
But I’m not one for statistics and numbers. I think the only thing that matters is winning, and this gives Billups a huge advantage. There is no way he is not named to the squad.
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As much as Chauncey deserves it
I think it would be better to take the time off. That way, he can take a break. He’s been working his ass off, and I believe he deserves some time off.
This is a good point
But he doesn’t have to play. He will certainly have the ear of the coach.
Put him in for five minutes to give Nash and D-Will a break.
I don’t want him to play much. But he deserves the honor of an invite to Dallas.
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It's too bad he can't politely refuse..
but if he’s invited doesn’t he really more or less have to play?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I agree also
That being said I wonder if Melo should go and re-risk injury
No Melo tonight
Per Twitter and 9 News.
I think it is a good idea for him to keep sitting until the Lakers game. Denver can beat Phoenix without Melo. But, if he wants to use it as a tune up game and is feeling OK, that’s cool, too.
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As a King's fan we're just grateful that Denver has contributed to 10% of our wins
(I rounded up hoping we get to 20) and we’re also grateful that ‘Reke is sitting out this game so as to make Westphal’s job so much easier as he desperately (sarcasm) tries to figure out how to incorporate Kevin Martin’s game* back into our baby royals.
*Hint – Paul Westphal didn’t have anything to do with getting Kevin and "Reke to mesh. It was all on Kevin in the first 6 games he played when he came back. He couldn’t have hit any side of a big building with a shotgun standing 10’ back.
You guys are the most arrogant fans I’ve seen on a SBNation site. Appreciate what you have. You’ll probably never win it all and this level of wins won’t last. The Kings are going to lose tonight, likely a blowout. Dig the wins fellas cuz the losses will return in a few more seasons and then we’ll be loving life but your whining about "melo will be endless.
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Haha, I wouldn't say arrogant
What makes you think we are arrogant?
Paranoid and excitable…maybe. Arrogant, not so much. If anything we are the least arrogant of any of the championship contenders’ fanbases, in that we are constantly putting our own players and coach down, even at the slightest mishap.
by Uh on Feb 1, 2010 6:40 PM MST up reply actions
I'm playing the world's smallest violin for you right now
“Hey guys, my team sucks and I don’t believe they can win but you guys are so arrogant I get to talk trash anyway and I hope that arrogance catches up soon and you guys will LOSE and know what it’s like to be me”
Thanks for sharing your heartwarming story on the internet. Only a few months left till you guys get to do what you do best, jerk each other off about the draft. How bout that John Wall? Man he’s good!!!!!
Wait, wat??
Arrogant…my goodness, we are the least respected team in the league with some of the best players. How does that breed arrogance?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Who dis respects the Nuggets?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
They NBA's leadership
David Stern is a Nugs hater and also a giant schmuck.
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Un huh.
He must every small market team in the NBA. Which means he hates the Jazz and the Suns and the Spurs and the Magic and like everybody!
You would think ,though, that if David Stern only loved the big markets he could make the Knicks good once in awhile. Oh well. Not every dictatorship can run 100% perfectly.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
hate every small market^
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
No because much of the Nugs image goes against what he is trying to establish
he wants to make the NBA a league where his players are pure and well behaved all the time. The nugs have tats all over themselves and have had legal issues, they get down and dirty with teams. Little Davy doesn’t like this, also he screwed your team out of a NBA finals appearance.
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Other than JR Smith
Who is gettting in trouble? And if David Stern hates tattoo’s, why is LeBron James so popular? Or Kobe Bryant? Or Tim Duncan? They all have tattoos.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Do not make me list past legal issues with the Nugs
it is a long list, although of late only Balkman has gotten himself in trouble. Kobe and Lebron market themselves too well for Stern to shun them.
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But why would David Stern be concerned with the Nuggets legal issues?
Explain to me how I see David Andersen on commercials. He’s one of the players on the Nuggs with a “shaky” past isn’t he? Oh wait, he got booted out of the league for testing positive.
Yeah, Stern hates the Nuggets. I get it now.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Because it has all played into the Nugs "thug" image
you ask me, none of these guys are thugs but a hell lot of people believe so. The Spurs are the opposite of this. which is why they have done so well as a small market(as well as playing a great system, I must give them credit). Also it’s Chris Anderson and he has some great highlight real plays that worked well for their commercials.
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If Kenyon Martin is a thug
Then I’m black.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Last year in the playoffs
against Dallas many people were screaming he was a thug, good fro you that you aren’t that shallow but many are.
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David Stern never screwed the Kings at any point.
If anything, he likes Sacramento.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I'll try to do that.
I’ll go eat at his restaurant in Sacramento and ask him.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Of course not.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Please grab a dictionary
and look up the definition of arrogance. Also, next time don’t throw out words you don’t know the actual meaning of because they will be misplaced. We will go over 5th grade English tomorrow if you like.
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heh...good call!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Lame but...
Due to the economy, I had to drop Dish (and a bunch of other shit) and cannot catch the game tonight. Any of you know a good website or radio station?
wore out his elbow making 27 points last night?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Would you rather he have not made that layup?
and yes he does but he does something good so rarely it’s something amazing when it happens.
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crap I can't see the game tonight...and can't get a good radio stream
what happened to Chauncey?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
i feel dirty now...lol
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
It helps that Andersen can handle his passes.
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it is on-the clash of the titans
chris MATTRESS KING andersen vs. chauncey DENVER MATTRESS billups
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
ruh roh!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
ahhh crap...that sucks...
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
i have a denver mattress. i think they are pretty good.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
ahhh crap...that sucks...
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
He is on the sidelines
and looks like he is expecting to come back in.
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he is the new spokeman for denver mattress
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
Man.
I wish Chauncey just would have taken the night off. this sucks.
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Did Melo get an MRI, or did they assume he just had a sprain?
The longer he’s out, the more I wonder if he tore something.
You already answered your question above
you know, he SUCCCKKKKKS
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instead of putting Triple A back in
AC is left in as the PG
brockman playing center
hurry go skins vs. shirts
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
did anybody see the red, white and blue basketball?
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
not worried
tis has typical Nuggets W written all over it. Hang around first half, storm out of the gate second half, go through the motions in 4th quarter
I know it won't happen, but
is Melo allowed to dress for the 2nd half and play, or do you have to stand by an announcement that he’s inactive once the game starts?
16 points for the Kings....
Like I said, they just have the Nuggets by the balls this season, nothing we can do
Swats.
nugs, we know you prefer not to show up against shit teams,
but maybe, out of some sense of pride, consider showing up against the shit team THAT ALREADY BEAT YOU TWICE.
I'm chalking this one up to a loss because Melo sat
Another game where we really, really needed him
Swats.
Still time
Maybe if we get lucky the Kings will burn out in the 3rd quarter
by Uh on Feb 1, 2010 8:14 PM MST up reply actions
i don't know
The D is losing us the game tonight. and I don’t know that Melo would have changed that a lot.
It would
I really don’t get it. How come people still don’t understand how important Melo is to this team?
Swats.
See my rant below.
That issue drives me crazy as well.
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 8:21 PM MST up reply actions
Time for the coach of the month
to teach his team to guard back door cuts while kicking a couple of folding chairs.
Nuggets (see: Chauncy) need Melo to come back ASAP
I want Melo to be healthy when he comes back, but I think it’s clear the team is starting to wear down from the load everyone has had to pick up with him out.
This is what drives me crazy when people point to wins and losses over a small sample size when Melo (or any other team’s star) is out of the game: Yes other players on the team and the team as a whole can pick it up, especially when the team is as talented as the Nuggets. But when they have to carry the load game in game out for extended periods of time, it absolutely takes it’s toll. This is why stars are stars, because they carry that load game in game out for the whole season. I’ll let it go now.
Regardless, this doesn’t mean the Nuggets can’t come back tonight, and I hope they do, but the D was atrocious in the second quarter. Maybe yesterday’s game took more out of them than we/they thought.
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 8:19 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
Chantech, what's your point? The Nuggets are not better with Melo out, and it's likely that they lose more games
So your point is..what exactly?
Swats.
Actually, Melo was out last time they played (Jan 9th) and Chauncy was in
Melo played in the first game we lost against them (Dec 29th) when Chauncy was out.
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 8:24 PM MST up reply actions
I think the answer to what Melo means to the team
is best answered by Chauncey, Kmart, et al. If they think they need him, then yeah I think he’s pretty important.
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
blooming rock rec'd. We all need to read this over and over
We need Melo.
Stats that are accumulated over four-to-five game stretches where Melo is gone are entirely separate from stats that we would see accumulate over longer stretches.
by Uh on Feb 1, 2010 8:23 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
clapclapclapclap Tulo! errr....MELO!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Okay then...so in other words, they come in small spurts
Meaning each one is circumstantial and a product of small sample size…how does this help your argument?
by Uh on Feb 1, 2010 8:25 PM MST up reply actions
Cool
So start “TradeCarmeloAnthony.com”.
99% of your readers are going to be other teams’ fans
Swats.
yeah, that adjusted plus minus isn't my fav stat.
and by the way, how’s the Nuggets’ defensive efficiency tonight without the burden of Melo in there on D?
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 8:26 PM MST up reply actions
I made this comment a few games ago when the whole "we don't REALLY need melo" movement started
short term we can survive, long term no way
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I think this is probably a valid statement...
Long term, teams will adjust and you can’t play good teams 4 on 5…cause Joey Graham is a non factor
i'm not saying he's not important
but the nugs are as likely to play bad defense with him in there as they are if he’s out.
there’s a lot of basketball left to play. let’s not give up just yet. the nugs often come out strong in the second half.
It's clear that Billups is gassed and Nene and KMart are frustrated...
Melo takes the load off of them.
Heh...watching NBA TV hornets game
the announcers were remarking how the Nuggets beat the Hornets into submission during the playoffs. The announcer said he’d never seen a team just give up and not want to go back out and play again.
We need THOSE Nuggets to get going again :)
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
FACTS:
1. The Nuggets ARE NOT BETTER when Carmelo doesn’t play
2. Melo provides the offensive firepower to make up for this team’s defensive shortcomings, on full display tonight
3. The Nuggets lose close games without Carmelo
Swats.
wow just got here,
WTF I thought Melo’s returning tonight and the Kings were sucking now so this would be a wash….
no?
by InboundingLobPass on Feb 1, 2010 8:29 PM MST reply actions
Carmelo's injury is more severe than anyone has realized
We might have to start looking at him being out long term. See also the way the Celts handled Garnett’s “knee problems” last year
Swats.
this really really worries me....
and if Chauncey is out for any length of time….doesn’t bode well
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
but I think his point is that the injury is more serious
than is being known to the media…and fans
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
If this is true
Then I’m surprised that his teammates don’t know about it. Chauncey sure seemed eager to have him back on Sunday.
by Uh on Feb 1, 2010 8:34 PM MST up reply actions
well he may want him back doesn't mean it can happen
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Give them a little credit
They have figured the Nuggets out and have the right rotation to beat them.
Swats.
seriously!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
isn't he playing on a bad ankle right now?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
concur
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
You know what is real fucking sad
AC is playing the best out of any Nugget right now
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wow not watching this
but its sounding pretty bad….
ok I’m gonna go ahead and start the Petro chant…
lets see some Petro Petro Petro Petro
by InboundingLobPass on Feb 1, 2010 8:37 PM MST reply actions
get JR going ...
he can turn the game around in 2 minutes if he can start making 3s
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Mempis beat the Lakers !! woot
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Uggh this makes me even more angry
Nuggets could’ve gained a full game on the Lakers
by Uh on Feb 1, 2010 8:39 PM MST up reply actions
did the game end already?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Lakers Lose!
:) Almost as good as a nuggets win
Too bad we can’t win on the same night against a crap team
well the game isn't over yet
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Lakers loss means nothing if the Nuggs don't win
You don’t catch the #1 seed in the west by idling
Swats.
Now we have to win.
We cannot blow this opportunity to gain ground vs. LA.
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We're not winning tonight
Let’s start looking ahead to Phoenix on Wednesday, shall we? I’m really getting sick of " Nene Hilario misses layup" on my gamecast
Swats.
This is mostly directed toward chantech after reading through this thread, but anyone else chime in. Here's my thing:
1.) I am harder on Melo than just about anyone I know, because he has the talent to be in a very select group at the top of the NBA (re: James, Bryant, Wade, Duncan).
2.) He frustrates me to no end by not giving max effort on the defensive side of the ball, not going after rebounds more, and holding the ball too long on isos.
3.) All those things being said, that’s not what the team needs him to do right now. He is the most gifted scorer in the league . . . cannot be stopped. He is more valuable focusing his efforts doing that over the course of a long season.
4.) In tight games, as the playoffs approach, and in the playoffs: yes Melo needs to be a better all around player. I think he will be and I think he proved that he can be last year.
5.) Until then, you can have your adjusted +/-, defensive efficiency while Melo is on the floor. I just want wins. And over the course of 82 games, Melo gives us many more wins than we would have without him. And in the playoffs, he will turn into the beast he was last year and can lead the Nuggets to the promised land, without him, they’re done after one, maybe two series.
Now I’m done. Sorry for the long post, I know this belongs more in a post game thread or fan shot, but the opportunity presented itself.
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 8:41 PM MST reply actions 5 recs
reccin dis
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
ooooo what a good category to add!!
A super-rec and a not-rec are needed
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
any way we can
trick JR into making like 7 3’s at the end of the game???
If Karl promises to get “EARL Jr.” tatooed on his ass I bet Smith would start dropping em in like nothing….!
by InboundingLobPass on Feb 1, 2010 8:41 PM MST reply actions
AC always play hard....no matter what one says about the rest of his game
he never ever quits
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
All they have to do
is take away the backdoor layups and easy pick and rolls. That’s why the Kings are shooting 53%
That is more of the D we need
Tonight is just one of those games we can only win by out hustling the other team. granted I have not been watching the whole game but it seems like we are kinda picking it up now.
wow. ac hit a jumper! a sign the tides are turning.
what’s with chauncy tonight? 1-13 . . . dude’s completely gassed from the past few weeks and playing 45 min yesterday. that three’s a good sign, hopefully his ankle is alright.
We need to be sub-9 down if we want a chance to win tonight
I still think this game is mostly written off
Swats.
clutch carter brings denver back single handed
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
a bit OT, but you mentioned Yorvy earlier
he has an offer from the Padres of all crazy things….
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
oh no way...
we stand a great chance again this year. stay tuned. seriously
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Dodgers will be weaker this year.
No pitching depth and no Many on the ’roids.
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 8:51 PM MST up reply actions
Thank you for mentioning them
man am I happy they have done nothing this off-season, well except gotten worse.
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
Disagree with this comment
1.) One of the best young cores in the league.
2.) Best pitching staff they’ve ever had,
3.) Deepest bench they’ve ever had (esp with Mora signing yesterday).
4.) Don’t underestimate Tracy for a full year . . . people forget how not-good Hurdle was, and they still made the playoffs two of the past three years.
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 8:49 PM MST up reply actions
That would be cool with me
they are going nowhere fast and it’s not the giants!
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
how weird that he would be right here in my back yard...crazy
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
how weird that he would be right here in my back yard...crazy
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
well that would feel a little treasonous...lol
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Rooting for the Padres when they play SF and LA is not treason
especially seeing they will win about 10 games this year.
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
maybe Sac is bad enough
to let us back into the game…
man they really are playing like the nuggets usually do…
I’m tired of this stagnation
COME ON NUGG NATION!!!
by InboundingLobPass on Feb 1, 2010 8:47 PM MST reply actions
Maybe I should keep talking about how poorly Chauncy is playing and he'll keep raining threes!
Let’s get it to 5 going into the fourth.
can I trouble for the score as I am flying blind and deaf ...nothing working
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Don't do this to me Nugs
If you guys are gonna make it a fight, make it a fight, don’t crap out these last few minutes/quarter
Swats.
come on NBA TV yes Kobe is great blah blah blah
switch to the Nuggets game dangit!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
K-Mart is dominating lately.
I like how he’s playing. Must be feeling healthy again, finally.
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 8:53 PM MST up reply actions
man thank God for Kenyon Martin
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
hey as long as they drop
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
crazy: 38 point quarter followed by a 14 point quarter
hopefully the Nugs woke up
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
Like I said within 6 we have a chance!
Now we just need to keep up the energy. That is how we are going to win tonight hustle
Much better D
And Billups is starting to get his shot going.
I’m feeling good.
But still angry that we feel so far behind.
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There's my five point margin!
I just pray the poor FT shooting doesn’t come back to haunt them (like the first Sac loss: 20-35, and the home Philly loss: 17-29).
Chauncy needs to be shooting the FT’s down the stretch.
In TyLaw I trust!
I’m glad he got the rookie/soph game snub . . . now he has even more motivation.
If we win
One of the best games of the season.
Denver has the momentum. Now keep it up.
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its pretty funny tracking the game through the
game thread
1) Melo- who needs Melo
2) OMG AC is playing we’re DOOOOMED!!!
3) 14 pts down game over
4) OMG AC scored, we’re gonna get back into it
5) TIE GAME!!!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
by SDcat09 on Feb 1, 2010 9:01 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Yup.
This game thread will go down in sports blogging history as a classic.
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Don't forget
4.5) Random Rockies discussion leading to Nuggets come back.
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
good point...darn my bad
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Oh I'm not criticizing
try a Rox game thread or three..
spillyslam game especially
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
okay I am officially unbelievably totally ridiculously
unfairly JEALOUS !!!!!
BEST freaking game of the year!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Also was at the 2007 play-in game
but let me tell you, that Spillyslam game was incredibly boring and frustrating to be at for awhile.
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
Are you single? lol
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Lol
the advantages of living in Denver. But of course I also experienced the incredible screwage that was game 3 of last years NLCS.
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
I was joking ...in case anyone thinks otherwise..
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I still have the SpillySlam game on my DVR
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
What's with AAA tonight? Off game.
secretly hoping he hits a couple threes to make me eat these words.
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 9:03 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
some beer with that crow?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
how about some New Belgium 2Below?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
a little more smooth I think
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Yay!!! NUGS game on NBA TV!!! woot
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
sorry I meant actual NBA on the TV :(
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I would love for the Nuggets to keep going and not look back
Step on their throat!!!! They have trouble doing that sometimes.
The Refs we looking upcourt
Got lucky there.
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nene did something against the rules?
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
thanks for the tease NBA TV blargh
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
YEAH!!!! :)
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Nene has been getting a good amount of boards in the 2nd half
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
oh ye of little faith :)
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
you're telling this to a Rox fan??
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I was more a panic fan when it came to the Rox
“oh crap we got swept at SF year over”
“shit here come the fighin Braves, we will blow this”
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
i think he's playing hurt . . . for most of the year
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 9:13 PM MST up reply actions
tenditiis...FTL
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Why do they switch to shooting jumpers?
They got back in it attacking the rim, come on guys!
damn skippy better be
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
OHHHHH DAYYYYUMMMMM JR!!!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Wow, that was nasty by Earl!
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Isn't this a contract year?
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
isn't his always a contract year?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I'm confused
He hasn’t really lived up to his contract up to this point.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
okay guys quit screwing around
lock it down!!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
D is too soft
But Denver is answering.
Nuggets can’t be content to trade buckets. You have to get some stops.
FFS.
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I'm taking back
all the bad things I had to say about Kmart!
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Kenyon is the true BEAST of Denver
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I'll see your daym and raise you a DAYYYYYYYUUUUUUUMMMMM
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
dammit...i gotta go back to work....
Apparentally the country needs protecting with 3 minutes left in the game. I expect full recap when I get back. Thanks guys…..GO NUGGETS!!!
screw the country!!!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
that kid looks lost against CB1
he’s like WTF am I doing here..
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Where's Casspi from?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I know
developing good basketball players, supplying the best hummus, and winning a ton of wars. What don’t they do well?
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
by propheteer on Feb 1, 2010 9:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
no the houston announcers are much worse
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
wish I could have TACOS!! :(
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Didn't seem to be a bad pass
It hit CB in the hand.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
He should not take inbounding advice from AC
Just saying.
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NOOOOO
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Why do the Nuggets always struggle to get the ball in bounds?
Karl must really not believe in them. Shudders just thinking of the WCF last year.
Not a good shot when you're tied with 3 seconds left in the game.
TAKE. IT. TO. THE. RACK!!!
I agree
Or drive and dish it out to an open man. CB definitely looks tired tonight.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Okay, starting at 0-0 now. Let's play some D!!!
Should have won that in regulation, but I won’t complain since they fought back from the dead.
OK we all wanted Chauncey to take that shot
come on now, we were at least thinking how sweet it would be if it went in.
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
OT it is....I can live with that
game thread today
1) Melo – we don’t need no stinkin’ Melo
2) AC SUXXORS – We’re DOOOOOOOMED!!
3) 14 points down game over
4) AC made a shot….we’re gonna win1
5) TIE GAME!!
6) We have the lead we are awesome!!!
7) We lost the lead OH NOES GAME OVER
8) Wait, WAT >>> OVER TIME!!!??
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I updated it to reflect the
4th quarter
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Ponderosa Mustangs
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Kmart for Mayor!!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Earl steppin' up on D!
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
hmm JR STEEL
I like it
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
He's on quite a run lately
It’s finally good to see.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
AAA is looking like he's a kid in trouble with Professor Chauncey
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
crap crap crap. oh noes
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Nene's defense has been atrocious!
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
by propheteer on Feb 1, 2010 9:43 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if Melo would be of help about now?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
right my bad....
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
DUNK THAT SHIT NENE
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
yikes sorry for the language!
you’d think its the playoffs
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
STOPZ NOW PLZTHXBAI
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Good D there guys keep it up
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
WT FRAKKITY FRAK CRAP IS THAT!!!!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
OMG!
That was complete garbage!!!
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Why did Kmart put that on the ground?
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
spellcheck!!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
AA!!!
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
NICE!!! AAA making me eat my words from earlier!
I will gladly eat my crow if they can get one . . . more . . . stop. Please?!?!?!
floptastic !!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
K-Mart vs. K-Mart
K-Mart wins.
Go Nuggets.
Member: 10-man rotation for deep playoff push advocacy group
Nice! K-MART!!!
Good to see Melo cheering on the boys. Come back soon Melo!
Oh yeah!!!
Martin acts like he is an elite player.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
THIS
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
twss?
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
you said it!!!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
nugs win nugs win holy cow nugs win
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
It's over
Thank goodness! Goodnight y’all.
"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.
Big win, couldn't drop the one game against a crappy team during this brutal stretch
nice comeback now Melo comeback!
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
^5
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
NIce!!! We will remember this game when teams are jockeying for positioning in the coming months.
K-Mart, AAA, Chauncy, JR, Nene, Bird, TyLaw, even AC . . . everybody played with a ton of heart tonight. Horrible second quarter, great comeback, great win in SEGABABA!
what is SEGABABA
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
SEGABABA =
SE-cond
GA-me
BA-ck to
BA-ck
Think it’s kind of dumb, personally, but it’s caught on around the blogging world.
by blooming rock on Feb 1, 2010 9:57 PM MST up reply actions
ohhhh yeah kinda weird ...thanks for clarifying
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
wow!
that was some emotional game
Great win combined with Dallas and La losses…..
by Crisse_molle_ti_senti on Feb 1, 2010 9:55 PM MST reply actions
No doubt
We really needed to win tonight.
Great team effort second half.
Afflalo with the game winner
trade him right away
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
0 for 7
but he did not force anything you are right
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
but boy are his stats gonna show he had a crappy game :P
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
we don't need Melo....man have you not been paying attention today ? (kidding)
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
See you at the Phoenix game, folks
This was not a pretty game. Even the second half was marred a bit by giving up leads in the final minutes that take it to OT.
But the Phoenix game will be fun.
G’night Nuggets fans. G’night Sacramento fans. Good job making it close.
Member: 10-man rotation for deep playoff push advocacy group
nite Fly!!
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
Nice to look at the standings:
1) LA
2) Nugs 3.5 back (2.5 if the Celts hadn’t choked yesterday)
3) Mavs 6.5 back
4) Jazz 7.0 back (they are freaking smoking hot right now)
5) Spurs 8.5 back
6) Suns 8.5 back
7) Blazers 9 back
8) Grizz/Thunder 10 back
the stats aren't pretty, in fact, when you look at them you sort of wonder how we won
but Sac had 19 turnovers to 9 from us.
I'm not surprised
The first half was TERRIBLE!! Poor defense, little offense. The missed free throws…etc..
I’m going to watch the 2nd half of the game, considering I missed it. >:[
Not pretty, but a win is a win.
This was one of Chauncey’s worst games in a long time, and you could tell at times that he was out of gas and forced a lot of shots. I thought Lawson and AAA had good nights. That third-fourth quarter run was great, and i think Lawson’s drives helped us take the lead. Got scary at the end, but now were only 3.5 back. Overall, this was a tired tired team tonight, and it will be terrific to get Melo back wednesday. Glad we got the win, go nuggets.
IF he comes back...
They said he was supposed to come back today, but since they’re playing the Lakers on Friday, I can wait another game.
this
2009 Colorado Rockies - Greatest comeback in MLB history to win NL WildCard
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
"With a guy like Melo, it’s tough to stop him with one person. You can’t. I don’t know one guy who can stop Melo on a consistent basis."-CP3
PS Let's win the NL West in 2010, shall we?
I couldn't watch this game unfortunately
No altitude up here in the state of Wa, but the only thing as good as a Nuggets win is a Laker loss. And those bitches managed to lose tonight. I’m starting to think this tougher schedule is going to really benefit us. We play down to the competition sometimes, but when we face the NBAs best teams we play at a very high caliber.
by wangstu13 on Feb 1, 2010 11:00 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I didn't participate in the game thread....
I just read through as much as I could….and I have to nominate this thread as the best in-game thread EVER.
lol
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