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A Carmelo Christmas Carol...

On the eve of the Nuggets Christmas Day game in Oklahoma City, Carmelo Anthony was visited by three ghosts.

Star-divide

I have a Christmas tale to share with you about an NBA player named Carmelo Scrooge.

Carmelo Anthony had been nothing short of a scrooge since the basketball team he played for – the Denver Nuggets – offered him a maximum, three-year, $65 million contract extension at the beginning of the 2010 off-season.  When presented with the offer by Nuggets management, Anthony defiantly said: "Bah, humbug!  I’m not signing that contract!"  And with that, Carmelo Scrooge promptly disappeared for the entire summer. 

During Carmelo Scrooge’s departure, he participated in a wedding toast with his friends lauding the possibility of playing in New York together, he put his Littleton, Colorado house on the market for $9.5 million and, when Nuggets president and future owner Josh Kroenke flew to Baltimore – Carmelo Scrooge’s hometown – to pay Carmelo Scrooge a personal visit and inquire about the contract offer, Carmelo Scooge again said "bah, humbug!" while refusing to sign the contract. 

Upon a begrudging arrival at Nuggets training camp, Carmelo Scrooge only spoke to the media for 10 minutes, hid his once childishly enthusiastic smile and when asked to participate in the Nuggets promotional photo ops for the season ahead, he again said "bah, humbug!"  Instead of building on the enthusiasm and energy brought by head coach George Karl’s remarkable recovery from cancer, Carmelo Scrooge’s refusal to sign an extension clouded the entire training camp…forcing his head coach and teammates to answer "will he or won’t he stay?" questions for weeks on end.  To all this, Carmelo Scrooge would just say "bah, humbug!" 

As the season began, Carmelo Scrooge played hard, but he was all business.  Carmelo Scrooge’s camaraderie with his teammates was professional at best and impersonal at worst, and long gone was that trademark smile.  At the end of each game, Carmelo Scrooge hurried off the court and raced to the locker room where he was diplomatic but curt with the media.  When asked about his future in Denver by members of the press, he’d say "bah, humbug!"  

His presumed frustration with having to play in Denver finally boiled over after a game one night, when he said: "It’s time for change.  Bah, humbug!" And as if all of that isn’t bad enough, Carmelo Scrooge allegedly to be demanded a trade to New York and New York only, severely limiting his team’s trading options even if they were to accommodate him.  

Not surprisingly, Carmelo Scrooge put a damper on an otherwise joyous Nuggets season.  Attendance was down.  The fans were confused, divided and fought among themselves when discussing Carmelo Scrooge’s future.  His refusal to sign the extension made it impossible for the Nuggets to give his teammates Chauncey Billups, Kenyon Martin, J.R. Smith, Arron Afflalo and Nene – all of whom were in varying degrees of one-year contracts – a straight and fair answer about their futures, leading to inconsistent and often frustrating play among them. 

And finally, Carmelo Scrooge’s refusal to commit to a future in Denver affected his performance on the court.  He averaged fewer points per game than the previous season.  He forced shots at the rim with career-low shooting percentages within close range.  And the NBA referees, having heard enough "bah, humbugs!" from Carmelo Scrooge all season long, tee’d him up for more technical fouls than any other player in the league.

After a frustrating string of basketball games that saw Carmelo Scrooge’s Nuggets lose three out of six games, including a loss in which Carmelo Scrooge got scrooged by the referees at the end of the game, Carmelo Scrooge found himself alone in his Oklahoma City hotel room on Christmas Eve, staring at the bad wallpaper on the ceiling, pondering his future. 

*****

Just as Carmelo Scrooge closed his eyes, he heard a knock at the door.  Looking through the door’s peephole, it was none other than Carmelo Scrooge’s college coach, Jim Boeheim.  

"Coach Boeheim?!" Carmelo Scrooge asked through the door.  

"May I come in?" Coach Boeheim asked.  

"Bah, humbug!" said Carmelo Scrooge.  "Don’t you know what time it is?!" 

But before Carmelo Scrooge could say anything more, Coach Boeheim magically walked through the door.

"What the?" said a surprised Carmelo Scrooge.

"You’ve been a bad boy, Carmelo," said Coach Boeheim.  "Thinking only of yourself.  Dissing your teammates.  Not appreciating your fans.  This wasn’t what we taught you at Syracuse University.  This isn’t the Carmelo that was a leader.  A leader who led his team to a championship.  You need to learn a few lessons, my boy.  And tonight, you’ll be visited by three ghosts." 

"Three ghosts?!  What the?!  Coach?!" 

And with that, Coach Boeheim disappeared. 

*****

Suddenly, Carmelo Scrooge heard another knock on the door.  "Bah, humbug!" said Carmelo Scrooge.  "Who could this be?!"  Looking through the peephole again, it was former Nuggets coach Jeff Bzdelik.  "Coach Bz-deh-luck…damn, I never could pronounce your name.  What’re you doing here?" 

"I’m the ghost of Christmas past.  Come on outside, Carmelo," said Coach Bzdelik.  "There’s something I want you to see." 

Carmelo Scrooge opened his hotel room door, but instead of standing in the hotel hallway he most surprisingly found himself standing along the back wall in Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke’s office.  Present in the room was Mr. Kroenke himself and his son Josh, Nuggets executives Bret Bearup, Mark Warkentien and Rex Chapman, manager of media relations Eric Sebastian and head coach George Karl. 

"Yo, Stan!" barked Carmelo Scrooge.  "Wassup?!" 

"He can’t hear you," replied Bzdelik.  "None of them can.  Right now you’re looking at events that happened in 2008.  April 15th, 2008, to be exact.  And instead of talking, you should be listening." 

Stan began to speak: "I’m afraid I have bad news, gentlemen.  Carmelo has gotten himself into trouble again." 

The group gathered around the elder Kroenke collectively gasped: "What now?!" 

"Well, I’ve just spoken with the Denver police department and Carmelo got arrested on suspicion of a DUI last night." 

"A DUI?!" said an exasperated Coach Karl.  "But we have to play the Lakers in the playoffs next week.  I doubt we’ll win a game to begin with because we’ve stunk all month, but without Melo we have no shot.  No shot whatsoever.  I’ve just about had it with this kid.  It’s one thing after another." 

"I know," said Stan.  "First it was the marijuana in the backpack…" 

"Bah, humbug!  That was my friend’s!" barked Carmelo Scrooge, unheard from the back of the room.  Coach Bzdelik gave him a suspicious look.  "It was!  I swear!" 

Kroenke continued: "…then it was the ‘Stop Snitchin’ video…boy, that one was hard to cover up…followed by Team USA wanting to send him home from the Olympics after we lobbied for him to be on the team in the first place.  That was followed by the brawl in New York and the suspension that ensued that cost us an entire season and forced us to trade for that nutcase Allen Iverson.  I know, George, it never ends with Carmelo.  I’m not sure what to do.  Should we trade him?" 

"Absolutely not," said Warkentien, while cramming mounds of popcorn into his mouth.  "This is child’s play compared to what my boys did in Portland and at UNLV.  As long as he didn’t kill anyone, I don’t see what the big deal is.  And even then, as long as he gets away with it does anyone care?  I mean, 30 points per game doesn’t grow on trees, you know." 

Everyone in the room looked perplexed at Warkentien. 

"No, no, no.  Don’t trade him," said Coach Karl.  "He’s a pain in the ass and he never listens to me, but he’s a good kid and has potential to be great.  Truly great.  I can work with this kid.  Just give me some more time and don’t suspend him for the playoffs.  Please." 

"I agree with the coach," said Josh.  "He’s just a kid and he’s a great kid.  He’s only 24.  He can still have a future in Denver.  He can deliver a championship to our loyal fans." 

"But how will we explain his latest incident to the fans and the media?" asked Sebastian.  "I can’t keep covering for this guy.  The press will be all over this." 

"Just do your best," said Stan.  "Look, I know it’s hard to stand by Carmelo.  But we’re a family here and we protect those who are in our family.  So once again we stand by and support Carmelo.  I just hope we don’t have to do it again." 

Coach Bzdelik turned to Carmelo Scrooge and led him out of the room.  "You see, Carmelo, these people care about you.  And look how you rewarded them…"  Bzdelik opened the door to exit Kroenke’s office and suddenly he and Carmelo Scrooge were standing behind the Nuggets bench at the Pepsi Center. 

It’s Game 3 of the 2008 playoffs first round and the Nuggets have lost the first two games of the series in blowout fashion.  Entering Game 3, Carmelo shot a combined 19-46 from the field in the series thus far, turned the ball over six times and almost fouled out of Games 1 and 2 in Los Angeles, hurting the Nuggets cause greatly in both games.  As Game 3 winds down, the 24 year old Carmelo is in the midst of a horrendous 5-22 shooting night and has been benched by Coach Karl. 

Frustrated – and for all the Pepsi Center fans within earshot to hear – the younger Carmelo lashes out at Coach Karl: "Just don’t sit there!!"  And pouts on the bench. 

The game ends with a 102-84 Lakers victory.  One of the worst home playoff blowouts in Denver Nuggets history.  Led by Coach Bzdelik, Carmelo Scrooge follows his younger self and teammates into the Nuggets locker room where the younger Carmelo addresses the media. 

"We quit.  Everybody.  From the coaches to the players, we quit.  And I said it." 

Soon after that statement, the younger Carmelo, his teammates, Stan Kroenke and the team executives desert the locker room, leaving Coach Karl alone in the corner.  With one shaky hand clutching his dry erase board and another holding a marker, Karl desperately tries to come up with a game plan for the next game.  A game that could be his last as Nuggets coach if the Nuggets lose.  The Nuggets with Karl and Carmelo had been horrible in the playoffs in previous years, but they had never been swept.  It shows on the old coach’s depressed face. 

"Coach, I didn’t mean it!" Carmelo Scrooge said to Coach Karl.  "I didn’t mean it, coach!" 

"Remember, Carmelo, he can’t hear you," said Coach Bzdelik.  "No one can." 

Coach Karl finally gets up – tears in his eyes – and walks out, leaving Coach Bzdelik and Carmelo Scrooge alone in the locker room. 

Bzdelik continued: "And you see, Carmelo, even after all your boorish behavior since coming to Denver and even after stinking it up in Game 3 and fouling out of Game 4 of this series and ruining your team’s chances to win just one game…your coach, your teammates, your team’s owner, your team's executives and your fans still stood by you.  They stood by you.  And what have you given them in return?  I guess we’ll see…" 

"What about all the game-winners I've made?!" said Carmelo Scrooge.  "What about the seven-straight playoff appearances I've led us to?  What about the time I got us into the conference finals?  I've given them everything!  Everything!"

And with that final comment, Coach Bzdelik began to fade away, leaving Carmelo Scrooge alone in the locker room.  "Coach Bzz-dah-leck…damn, I still can’t pronounce your name.  Where’d you go?  Where are you?  What’s going on?!" 

*****

"No one can hear you, Carmelo," said Miami Heat superstar LeBron James, wearing a gaudy fur coat, sunglasses and a giant gold necklace spelling out "THE KING." 

"LeBron?  What’re you doing here?!" asked Carmelo Scrooge. 

"I’m the ghost of Christmas present," replied LeBron.  "There’s something you need to look at." 

LeBron the ghost opened the door from the locker room and revealed the inside of Cleveland’s Quicken Loans Arena.  Playing on the floor are LeBron James the player and his Miami Heat against his former team, the Cleveland Cavaliers.  The fans are booing, barking and screaming viciously at LeBron the player from the stands every time he touches the ball. 

"You hear that, Carmelo?" asked LeBron the ghost. 

"Oh, man.  That’s brutal.  I can’t believe they’d say that about your mother!" 

"Well, maybe if she and Delonte hadn’t…oh, never mind…the point is that I was once a god here.  They worshipped me.  They loved me.  They loved my family.  I could do no wrong.  Now?  They hate me.  They will forever hate me.  And you know what’s worse than that?" 

"What’s that?" asked Carmelo Scrooge. 

"Everywhere I go they hate me.  They hate me in New York.  They hate me in Los Angeles.  They hate me in Chicago.  No matter where I go, people hate me except for a few hundred Heat fans in Miami," replied LeBron the ghost. 

"You mean a few hundred thousand Heat fans, right?" 

"No, I mean a few hundred.  The Heat don’t have real fans.  Just a few bandwagoners who bring their dates during the second quarter and leave in the third quarter.  Miami is the worst place to play in the NBA – other than Newark, of course – and it’s a horrible sports town." 

The fans at Quicken Loans Arena start getting angrier at LeBron the player on the court.  Many start throwing beers, batteries and trash at him.  Fights break out in the stands between fans and police. 

"You see, Carmelo, I didn’t think I had it all.  But I did.  I could’ve been to Ohio what John Elway is to Colorado.  Bigger even.  But I didn’t think it was good enough for me.  I listened to everyone but myself and now I play in a half-empty, hollow stadium where no one cares about basketball.  And to top it off, I’m not even the leader of my own team.  I’ll forever be Alex Rodriguez to Dwyane Wade’s Derek Jeter.  And it sucks, man.  It sucks real bad.  Just remember that…" 

Suddenly more and more beer cups start flying down from the stands.  The game is canceled by the PA announcer. 

"It’s getting dangerous, let’s get outta here!" 

With that, LeBron the ghost walked Carmelo Scrooge down the tunnel and out of the stadium in Cleveland.  After opening the door to the stadium, the two former Team USA teammates walk into Nuggets headquarters at Pepsi Center where Josh Kroenke, current Nuggets GM Masai Ujiri and the Nuggets head of accounting can be seen talking. 

"Hey, Josh!  Masai!  What’s up?!" 

"They can’t hear you, Carmelo," said LeBron the Ghost.  "You can only listen." 

"What are we going to do, Masai?" frets a nervous-looking Josh Kroenke.  "I want to do what’s best for the Nuggets, best for the fans and best for Carmelo.  But I just took over this team and the first thing I’m supposed to do is trade our best player?  And making matters worse, he not only won’t sign that extension but he won’t accept a trade to any team but the Knicks.  Our hands are tied!" 

"Maybe we can convince him to stay," says Masai, ever the optimist.  "We have lots of cap space after the year is over.  We have draft picks to play with.  Ty Lawson, Arron Afflalo and Nene continue to get better.  Gary Forbes was an absolute steal.  The Lakers, Spurs and Mavericks aren’t getting any younger.  We could have a good team here with Melo!" 

"I know, but he doesn’t want to be here," retorts Josh.  "I flew to Baltimore over the summer and he told me to my face that he won’t sign that extension."  Josh turns to the team accountant and asks "how much money will we lose if Melo leaves us?" 

The accountant answers: "Millions." 

"But we already lose millions!" replies Josh.  "We spent way more money than a team in our market size can afford to spend just to build a team around this guy.  And now he wants to leave?!  I have other players who deserve an answer to their future.  How many more times can I tell Chauncey and K-Mart ‘hey guys, thanks for your hard work and physical sacrifice all these years but we can’t talk about your future until I know what Carmelo wants to do’?  Do you know how hard that is?  And what about the fans?  I mean, we raised ticket prices on them this year.  Raised ‘em!  In a recession, no less.  And the only reason they’ve stood by us is because maybe – just maybe – this team can be special with Carmelo here.  People are willing to spend their hard-earned dollars for that small chance at a championship.  And now I’m supposed to trade the guy and get virtually nothing in return?" 

"You have to do something!" Coach Karl barges into the room, exasperated.  "Our team is falling apart.  I’ve been working harder than hell to keep these guys together, but the team is fracturing.  Chauncey is worried about his contract.  Kenyon is worried about his contract.  Nene is worried about his contract.  J.R…well, he doesn’t worry about anything.  Arron is worried about his contract.  Gary is worried about his contract.  Pretty soon, these guys are going to refuse to play as a team and only play for their next contract.  I know I lied to my doctor when I promised to take it easy this season, but dealing with this isn’t what I signed up for!" 

"We’re trying, coach, we really are," interjects Masai. 

"Whatever you do, just give me a straight answer and soon," retorts Coach Karl.  "I’ll coach anybody you give me.  I will.  I just want to coach guys who want to be here.  I don’t care if we win 20 games…" 

"I care," says the accountant.

"…as long as we have guys who want to be here.  Please, is there anything you can do, Masai?" 

Masai replies: "If Melo won’t sign that extension here before New Year’s, I have little choice but to aggressively try to trade him.  I won’t let Carmelo do to Denver what Chris Bosh did to me in Toronto."  In unison, Josh, Karl and Masai put their heads down…wondering about the season that could have been. 

"I just said I wanted to play out the season, that’s all!" screams Carmelo Scrooge, to no avail.  "I haven’t demanded a trade!" 

"That’s what I said, Melo," said LeBron the ghost.  "‘I just wanted to play out the season.’  Ha, you sound just like I did.  But once you become a free agent, it’s easy to think the grass is greener elsewhere.  Everyone wants a piece of you and everyone thinks they know what’s best for you.  And no one thinks you should stay where you started.  Speaking of grass…" 

LeBron the ghost opens a side door and leads Carmelo Scrooge outside to a large, grassy yard.  They’re at Carmelo Scrooge’s 5.7-acre, 21,000 square foot Littleton, Colorado house.  In the yard Carmelo Scrooge’s beautiful wife, LaLa is playing with their adorable son, Kiyan. 

"Look how happy they are," said LeBron the ghost.  "Look at how much space you got.  You think you’ll get that much space in New York?  Or Chicago?  Or Brooklyn?  And for what you paid here?  I just spent every last dime I had on a house in Miami that will eventually bankrupt me on the maintenance costs alone.  They’ll be calling me M.C. LeBron in 15 years.  You wanna do that?  You’re in Colorado, man.  Colorado has plenty of green space, great schools, reasonable taxes and great people.  But I guess you think New York is better than that.  We’ll see…" 

At that point, the wind began to pick up blowing LeBron the ghost away and sending Carmelo Scrooge up into air, unable to control his body. 

"I never said I didn’t like Colorado!" screamed Carmelo Scrooge as he was thrust into the air.  "I just said I wanted to keep my options open!  My options ohhhpeeeeennnnn…" 

*****

Carmelo Scrooge landed on hard, cracked, dirty pavement.  His legs hurt from the hardness of the ground.  He is in New York.  

Since the electric flying car still has not been invented, Carmelo Scrooge is immediately engulfed in smoggy, dirty New York air, causing him to cough violently.  He next gets splashed by muddy water from taxi cab driving by.  Sopping wet and trying to clean himself off, he gets a tap on the shoulder. 

"Welcome to New York City in 2015, my man!"  It’s Isiah Thomas, grinning from ear-to-ear.  "I’m the ghost of Christmas future!  Even I can’t screw up this job." 

"Hey, Isiah, wassup man?!"  Carmelo Scrooge and Isiah high-five each other. 

"Well I’m gonna show you.  Come on…" 

Isiah leads Carmelo Scrooge down the street to Madison Square Garden where the New York Knicks are playing the Denver Nuggets.  The Knicks are trotting out a lineup that includes a noticeably heavy 31 year old Anthony alongside longtime veterans Raymond Felton, Bill Walker, Danilo Gallinari and Timofey Mozgov, who has improved his scoring average to three points per game.  Carmelo’s Knicks are barely playing .500 basketball.  

Meanwhile, the opposing Nuggets lineup features two-time All-Star Ty Lawson at point guard, all defensive team member and three-point shooting threat Arron Afflalo at shooting guard, five-time All-Star Kevin Love (whom they got after suckering David Kahn into dealing Love for J.R. Smith) at power forward, third-year sensation Quincy Miller at small forward and Marc Gasol at center.  They’re playing for a 64 year old George Karl who decided to coach for one more year since the Nuggets are on the verge of competing for the NBA Finals after getting to the conference finals in 2014. 

The Nuggets play hard and gutty, while the Knicks are in total disarray.  The Knicks never recovered from Amar’e Stoudemire’s latest knee surgery – his third since 2012 – and never delivered on the promise of the Melo/Stoudemire combo winning an NBA title.  The closest they got was a lone playoff series win in 2012.  As Isiah and Carmelo Scrooge look on, Carmelo the Knick looks more like Antoine Walker the Celtic or Glenn Robinson the Buck than the Carmelo Anthony of his younger years.  With a lifetime guaranteed contract under his belt and lots late-night partying in New York, Carmelo the Knick has let himself go…settling for jump shots rather than taking the ball to the rack, and playing in front of a disinterested Madison Square Garden crowd. 

"Damn," said Carmelo Scrooge.  "How’d I let myself go?" 

"Well, you are playing for the Knicks," replied Isiah.  "Do the names Eddy Curry, Larry Johnson, Steve Francis or Stephon Marbury ring a bell?" 

"Yeah, so?" 

"Then you should know that the Knicks don’t hold anyone accountable.  We throw money at free agents and big name stars and then never demand that they stay in shape off the court or stay focused on the court.  We’re the most disorganized franchise in the NBA.  Isn’t it great?" 

"Wait a second," said Carmelo Scrooge.  "Why do you keep saying we?" 

Just then, Isiah the Ghost of Christmas Future points to Isiah the head coach trolling the Knicks’ sideline.  "You see that?" says Isiah the ghost.  "After I convince you to sign with the Knicks in the summer of 2011, the Knicks re-hired me, I kicked Donnie Walsh out and then took over as coach for Mike D’Antoni in 2012.  That’s why we haven’t won a playoff series since, even with you on the team.  Instead of re-signing with the Nuggets – an organization that helped make you great and has stood by you through thick and thin – you choose to play in New York and you end up playing for me.  But hey, I needed one more colossal failure on my resume and it just wouldn’t be the same without having you on the team."  Isiah flashes his famously big smile while Carmelo Scrooge isn’t impressed.  "Anyway, this game is boring.  We’re going to lose…again.  Six straight home losses."  Isiah then held up a copy of the New York Daily News with a cover shot featuring Carmelo and a headline reading: "Carmelo A Zero for New York."  

"Let’s get you home," said Isiah. 

"Home?" 

Isiah and Carmelo Scrooge leave Madison Square Garden, jump in a taxi cab and head to the Upper East Side to Carmelo’s condo, located in an unimpressive high rise without a doorman.  When they walk into Carmelo’s unit, they see Carmelo’s wife LaLa seated on the couch and flirting with a handsome man in a very expensive suit and tie.  

"What’s that guy doing in my apartment?!" asked Carmelo Scrooge. 

"Oh, that guy?" said Isiah.  "That’s your wife’s new boyfriend.  Soon to be fiancée after she divorces you.  He’s an investment banker who works on Wall Street." 

"Fiancée?!  What the hell does she need a new husband for?  I play for the Knicks dammit.  I make tons of dough!" 

"Well, not exactly," Isiah corrected Carmelo Scrooge.  "As a professional basketball player living in New York in 2015, you’re barely middle class.  Thanks to the NBA’s new collective bargaining agreement that slashed player salaries by 40%, all the taxes levied in New York, the increased cost of living in New York, all the money your wife spends in New York and all the endorsements you lost for dissing Denver, you don’t have a lot left.  And compared to a Wall Street investment banker, you’re practically a pauper."  Isiah laughs.  "Plus, you're never home.  With all the distractions in New York...the clubs, the bars, the fashion shows, the women...LaLa needs a partner, not a partier." 

"That ain’t funny," retorted Carmelo Scrooge.  "Where’s my son?"

"Your son?  Oh, he doesn’t live here.  You and LaLa shipped him off to boarding school in Connecticut…" 

"Boarding school?!  He’s only eight years old!" 

"But New York doesn’t have any decent public schools and the private schools require a waiting list and a lot of money to get into.  You just didn’t have enough influence to get him in.  Remember, you’re merely a basketball player.  That doesn’t mean anything in New York compared to the models, actors, bankers, politicians, musicians, artists, restaurateurs, Yankees and all the other more famous-than-you people who live here.  And before Amar’e got hurt, you weren’t even the best player on the team." 

"I can’t watch this anymore, get me outta here," said Carmelo Scrooge. 

"As you wish," replied Isiah. 

Exiting Carmelo the Knick’s apartment, Isiah and Carmelo Scrooge magically stepped into the 2025 Hall of Fame ceremony in Springfield, Massachusetts. 

"Now we’re talkin’!" exclaimed Carmelo Scrooge.  "Finally…my Hall of Fame ceremony.  So I didn’t win any rings…big deal…but at least I made the Hall of Fame!" 

But instead of Carmelo the Knick being inducted, he’s merely a spectator as his Olympic teammates LeBron James and Dwyane Wade get inducted alongside former Nuggets teammate Chauncey Billups and head coach George Karl (at 75 years old now).  It’s a proud day for all involved. 

"Wait a second," Carmelo Scrooge asked Isiah.  "Why am I not on that stage?!  I belong on that stage!" 

"You could have been on that stage, Carmelo," replied Isiah.  "But you were more concerned about yourself than your teammates.  Even I was a great teammate before I became the worst executive in NBA history.  Do you think I liked living in Detroit?  Do you think I lived in Detroit in the off-season?  Hell, no.  But that's where I was drafted and that's where my teammates were...and that's all that mattered.  When you left the Nuggets, they got better.  When you got to the Knicks, they got worse…of course, I contributed to that.  And you weren’t invited back to the 2012 Olympic Team, either.  Your Hall of Fame potential died when you left Denver.  But hey, you got to play in New York, right?  A big, exciting city.  And that’s all that mattered to you." 

"No," an upset Carmelo Scrooge said.  "No.  This can’t be.  I belong on that stage!"  Carmelo Scrooge raced up onto the stage, attempting to squeeze between Wade, LeBron, Chauncey and Coach Karl.  But no one noticed him.  No one acknowledged him.  He would go down in history like the other would-be great but ultimately forgettable small forwards like Walker and Robinson.  A footnote – at best – in NBA history. 

Nevertheless, Carmelo Scrooge continued to rant: "I belong on that stage!!  I belong on that stage!!  Dammit, I belong on that stage!!!  I belong…" 

*****

"…on that stage!!!!" And Carmelo Scrooge awoke in his Oklahoma City hotel room, in the middle of the night, full of sweat and fear.  Relieved that it was all just a dream - or was it? - Carmelo Scrooge leapt out of bed and raced down the hotel room hallway to Josh Kroenke’s room.  Arriving at Josh’s door, Carmelo Scrooge frantically banged on the door until the young basketball executive opened it. 

"It’s three o’clock in the morning.  What is it Carmelo?" a sleepy Josh Kroenke asked. 

"We have to talk," said Carmelo Scrooge.  "I’ve been doing some serious soul searching..."

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Great piece Andy. I really enjoyed reading it and I honestly could see this happening. I wonder what he’d think if he read this? Crazy stuff.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:05 AM MST reply actions  

Wow!

Worst thing I have read in ages. I really mean that.

You would rip on Melo, bring up all kinds of personal things as if they are real events such as his wife cheating on him and call yourself a fair person.

The only redeeming thing about this is that no trees were wasted in the writing of it.

by MMGraves on Dec 21, 2010 12:12 AM MST reply actions  

It's a blog

A blog is not required to check sources, it’s strictly opinion. You want “truth” or “facts” read the Post, or ESPNnewyork.com.

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by Melo'sPersonofSeattle on Dec 21, 2010 12:35 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks for the tip

Now I have the blueprint for legal slander in the form of pulp crap.

by MMGraves on Dec 21, 2010 6:23 AM MST up reply actions  

-1

I’m sure bringing a lawsuit against Denver Stiffs for writing a fictional parody of “A Christmas Carol” involving him is high on Melo’s priority list right now

Swats.

by Colin Neilson on Dec 21, 2010 3:07 PM MST up reply actions  

At any rate, I guess I can respond with the canned answer which is...

“This is a blog, it’s strictly opinion.” So there, you have my opinion.

by MMGraves on Dec 21, 2010 9:07 PM MST up reply actions  

why does feinstein hate christmas?

if he wanted to make up a story about melo and a holiday why not thanksgiving? melo could have been the turkey that gets pardoned by the president. melo would be alive but he is still a turkey.

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by nohoops4u on Dec 21, 2010 10:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow

That was 10 minutes of my life I will never get back.

Melo will be gone….get over it.

by philipba on Dec 21, 2010 12:40 AM MST reply actions  

/shaking head

dismayed

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:50 AM MST reply actions  

Ummm interesting Andrew. Very interesting………………………………………..

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by VicTor W on Dec 21, 2010 12:55 AM MST reply actions  

I liked it a lot Andrew!!!

It was an entertaining read, and I think you have some valid points. You seem to have a bit of Bill Simmons in you because I was hooked on the story.
Forget the haters on this site, the fact that they read it in its entirety speaks volumes.
Maybe someone can tweet this to Melo like last time and see if he reads it again?? I don’t have twitter and don’t care to sign up for it.
Kthxbai.

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by JR15 on Dec 21, 2010 1:36 AM MST reply actions  

Good work

Really good read Andrew. I actually got a really good picture from the detailed settings described though-out the article. You’re a talented writer Andrew!
Except for the fact that you start the article calling him Carmelo Scrooge, then Anthony Scrooge and later back to Carmelo I think it was very written. Good read!

by jrknight on Dec 21, 2010 1:40 AM MST reply actions  

Well I disagreed with some extremes

but it had me hooked and kept me reading at 1:45am(cool lunar eclipse, eh?). I thought I would hate it after paragraph one but I ended up enjoying it. Well written and some valid points within the story, I sure hope that Nuggets 2015 prediction comes true.

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by Phil H. on Dec 21, 2010 1:48 AM MST reply actions  

I liked it generally

but Lala and the investment banker kind of left a bad taste in my mouth. Still, a good read. Well written!

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by holyMonkey on Dec 21, 2010 2:27 AM MST reply actions  

Stuff like that happens to NBA players

Ask Allen Iverson and D Wade.
It is just opinion anyway. Not referring to you but the comments above, no need to get angry over this stuff. It is here for your entertainment.

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by JR15 on Dec 21, 2010 2:59 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah, i'm not angry

I was just surprised by it, I don’t know.

Anyway, as I said, it’s a good read. I was smiling the whole time, especially at the 2015 Nuggets.

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by holyMonkey on Dec 21, 2010 5:13 AM MST up reply actions  

lala and the investment banker was a very poor choice

lala and the hockey player would have been much better. think about it.

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by nohoops4u on Dec 21, 2010 11:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Damn

so our next all star-sensation will also have 27 Grammys as well? I can’t wait until we get Quincy Jones!

by CloudBurst on Dec 21, 2010 3:16 AM MST reply actions  

Andrew, you been hitting the Red Bull Margaritas again?

You must have stayed up all night!

Great fun to read, and appropriately over the top. But if Melo does go to NY, the Knicks will attract some other talent and become a playoff team. Little chance for Schadenfreude there, I fear.

I do agree that the Nuggs have every shot at a good rebuild if they deal Melo wisely, so the future could be bright for both Melo and the Melo-challenged Nuggets.

by slader on Dec 21, 2010 4:27 AM MST reply actions  

Really enjoyed that Andrew!

It was extremely creative. The only thing that I didn’t like was the part about LaLa and the investment banker, but other then that, It was fantastic!

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by stan_26 on Dec 21, 2010 4:39 AM MST reply actions  

Very good,

The part about JR for Love is a bit over the top but hey… it is Kahn! May Carmelo be visited!

by NugzD on Dec 21, 2010 7:55 AM MST reply actions  

Great read

It would have been a better ending if you had Carmelo going to NJ rather than NY.

Then it would have been believable.

by rod thorn on Dec 21, 2010 8:18 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting article

but certainly hits home. When Melo is traded, I can’t imagine too many Nuggets fans routing for him to succeed.

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by CSprings_Tommy on Dec 21, 2010 8:38 AM MST reply actions  

Now Andrew, if you were intending to make this an allegory to "A Christmas Carol"

you seem to have gotten the ending confused with the Sopranos…

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 8:38 AM MST reply actions  

lol... I couldn't get through it - maybe later.

Nets Daily blew up this morning over Woj’s article, but I favor Thomasson’s piece, FWIW.

by TakeFive on Dec 21, 2010 8:43 AM MST up reply actions  

(honestly, I found it rather mean-spirited)

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 8:54 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't really think it's stirring the pot..

It’s nothing new from Andrew about Carmelo really. Just in a shiny recycled story framework for Christmas….

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 9:33 AM MST up reply actions  

I think it paints a good picture

we’ve supported this guy through thick n thin
Denver fans deserve better!

by Melonugg on Dec 21, 2010 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, yes...make sure you ignore all the playoff appearances since he arrived

with little support around him until what 2006. Ignore that he’s invested millions in the Denver community helping others, lived here, paid taxes by owing a mansion here. Just saying, it’s as though Melo never did anything for Denver ever.

I get it.

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

*owning...

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 9:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Another point is...

Being an adult about this, we have to respect a players desire to come to Denver as well as leave Denver. If someone wants to come to Denver then it will be a positive thing for the town. If they want to leave then WHY would we want to force them to stay if we could. Not a good idea to have someone on your team who doesn’t want to be here.

Think of Cleveland as a good example of what NOT to do. Needy oppressive and smothering; these are not good qualities in a relationship.

by MMGraves on Dec 21, 2010 10:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Agree. But he's continued to play well and hard..

Think of how well he did before he got the flu. He’s been doing very well for the Nuggets regardless.
I think saying you would love a player to stay is not quite the same as saying he’s a total jerk for leaving…

I think we are more or less on the same page. If he goes I won’t be mad…It will suck…but I won’t hate him.

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm upset w/ Melo

not because he wants to leave, because he won’t allow this team to be good. This is the nuggets most talented team ever, but all it’s about is MElo

by Melonugg on Dec 21, 2010 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Exactly

Which SDcat i think you look at some of us posters when we say trade Melo as if we have no respect for Melo himself. It’s not that. The dude can leave if he wants too. It;s a free country no one can force him to live anywhere or force him to do anything he doesn’t want to. But it’s obvious when he says “I’m keeping my options open” than he wants to leave. The writing is on the wall. It’s time for everyone to move on and to get this done immediately.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 10:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed...but you must admit that there is quite a bit of ill-will that come across in posts

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh i know

But i think most of the “trade melo” posters don’t hate the guy. We just want something in return for the best player who’s ever suited up as a Nugget. It would really suck to lose a talent like that for nothing.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 10:56 AM MST up reply actions  

And I'm fine with those even if I think they are wrong...

It’s the constant spinning of Melo being only bad that really bothers me.

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

I know

but he has done a lot of dumb things the past years that could have easily landed him in a trade to God only knows who and he could be in a completely different scenario. Yea, Melo is good but he hasn;t done it by himself. If he was traded a while ago for his Weed, bitch slap or DUI he could have been playing for a different coach and different supporting cast. He could have eneded up being only a 20 ppg player on a non playoff team and not have the opportunity he does now. One of the main reasons he does have the opportunity to be treated as a king is because of the Nuggets, the players they have brought in and the time and patience they have given Melo. He has overlooked all that which is fine. But it’s time to move him if that’s the case. Just don’t lose him for nothing.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 11:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Do you think Melo deserved to be traded for any or all of those things?

He was suspended and faced the appropriate punishments. But really, do you think the Nuggets were going to trade their cash cow over those issues?

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

It's happened in the past

to other players.

Look at Chris Webber.

Look at Gilbert Arenas

Guys get into trouble, they are sometimes banished.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

And sometimes they are not

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes

You don’t want your face of the franchise getting in 3 serious problems in the span of 2 years. That’s not good. I guarentee if that happened to anyone else in any other job other than the NBA they’d be fired from the get go. He’s very, very lucky. I wanted him gone after the DUI. I have changed my mind since and Denver made the right move in keeping him but i know myslef and many other fans i know were not happy with what he did. I’m fed up with JR too. But i have gotten to know about him outside of basketball and he’s much different than people think… Melo not so much. he is what he shows up to be.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 11:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Playoffs! Playoffs! (my more voice)

haha.

Making the playoffs in the NBA sucks. YOu cant get a potential lotto franchise saving player, you get 1 extra home game revenues i guess.

But then its back to the offseason (save one miracle WC run, when our side of the bracket was fairly weak).

1st rd playoff exitsis all our highly overpaid squad is good at.

by nsink on Dec 21, 2010 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

2 extra

home game revenues i meant

by nsink on Dec 21, 2010 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

And every other year

They either played SA or LA in the first round which ended up landing in the finals and most of the time winning it. We played the Clippers once in the first a long time ago. Besides that everytime they lose in the first round it has been LA, or SA and then obviously Utah last year but AD was coaching and Kenyon was gone.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

BS little support

I don’t care how people try to spin it including Carmelo “I need more help” Anthony. This team has tried to build around him. KMart, Andre Miller, Camby, AI, Billups…..not to mention trying to sign Gilbert & Ginoblli. They would continue to build around him if he would let them.
This is Carmelo’s doing. Not the fans, not ownership, Carmelo me first
Anthony wants out! It’s not the fans who want him gone, not ownership, not even me SD, it’s Melo that wants out.

by Melonugg on Dec 21, 2010 10:23 AM MST up reply actions  

+infinity^infinity

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by CombatChuk on Dec 21, 2010 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Spot on

Once the rest of you who want to keep him for the year realise this you’ll understand a trade is essential.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

LOL

I was going to draw out the ending with K-Mart taking on the roll of Tiny Tim, removing his crutches and playing great as Melo leads us to the 2011 NBA Championship, but I figured I had enough fiction in here as is and would let the readers use their imaginations for how this all ends…

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by Andrew Feinstein on Dec 21, 2010 10:13 AM MST up reply actions  

It'll end with Melo as a Net

and us with a promising Favors to pair up with a fro’ed Nene for a renaissance of DEFENSE and the Nuggets will be perennial champions!!!

/puts down pipe

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by CombatChuk on Dec 21, 2010 10:23 AM MST up reply actions  

I loved this fun article, but that LaLa part was extremely distasteful.

If it wasn’t for that part, I’d say give this story to Melo and see what happens. I said this when the rumors started, but I’ll repeat…

Loyalty in the NBA is never a 2 way street. LeBron leaves Cleveland and he’s the most hated sports figure of the decade, but if Cleveland were to trade LeBron (hypothetically, to New Orleans for Paul, West and picks) without his consent then how come nobody would care for the Cavs betraying LeBRon and sending him to a losing team. So when Denver backed up Melo all during his many problems, now he has a chance to return the favor by being grateful for what the team has done, no he doesn’t owe Denver anything, but the right thing to do would be to re-sign, but then again if a team offered an amazing package for Melo like 2-3 years ago, Denver would’ve dumped him in a second no matter where it leaves him, so why should Melo care what happens to Denver?

Just kind of a thought

by hvino on Dec 21, 2010 8:42 AM MST reply actions  

Wow

Very good Andrew. Must have taken you a long time.

Regarding the LaLa thing, I see where people are coming from but disagree. This is supposed to be a scary worst case scenario type deal. Divorce and an affair are things that can affect any marriage, whether you like it or not, and don’t make the people involved bad or evil. I’ve not been divorced or had an affair, but I’ve seen it happen a lot. I saw one of those “perfect couples” end in affair and divorce. It’s not like you said Lala is a pedofile or a murderer. You said that, under a worst case scenario, Lala could do what millions of other people on the planet have done and are doing.

Don’t think Melo would read it, or that it would impact him. But entertaining.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 9:41 AM MST reply actions  

lala cheating on melo was the only way the story could have worked

who would believe a pro athlete would cheat on his wife? then the wife divorces the pro athlete and takes all his money. then the pro athlete cannot pay his child support, goes to jail and becomes homeless. that would never happen in a billion year AND nobody would believe it.

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by nohoops4u on Dec 21, 2010 11:25 PM MST up reply actions  

the only think left is slashfic...let's hope that's avoided....

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 9:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Loved it

Melo is going to be a Net, we’ll have Favors and Nene which will eventually end up being a badass front court. Chauncey isn’t it going anywhere…

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by CombatChuk on Dec 21, 2010 10:06 AM MST reply actions  

Favors and Nene

could be a sickkkkk frontcourt =)

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 10:13 AM MST up reply actions  

A fantastic fantasy

starring Fabio as the investment banker.

Thank you for stating in a long rambling knock-off of a Christmas classic my exact feelings on the Melo situation.

Denver first.

by margabelle on Dec 21, 2010 10:22 AM MST reply actions  

wow....got thru 3/4 before checking out

but then back in after reading comments about the personal NY Post/Fox News like trash you had to insert about his future family relationships. You really have no life do you? If anything this article has made me recheck my priorities in life not to obsess about the local sports scene or sports in general, spend more time with my wife and kid, and focus on what is best for MY family, not psychotically absorbed with the lives of professional athletes who have always been business first since the advent of free agency if you haven’t noticed, and owe nothing to no one other than who pays their check. If some you fans would hold your political leaders (who actually can effect your life) accountable for their actions like you do meaningless pro athletes maybe this country wouldn’t be trending downwards like the Roman Empire revisited. I’m done with this loser site….get a life people, life is too short.

by jd80229 on Dec 21, 2010 10:33 AM MST reply actions  

Life is short

I want to see a Nuggets championship before it’s over!

by Melonugg on Dec 21, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions  

Good lord man

Andy writes as a hobby. He’s good at it and has a lot of followers and supporters. He made a story up. This is a blog. It’s opinionated. He can say whatever he wants. You took it wayyy too far and the wrong way man.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Here's the thing..

He did use things that happened in Melo’s life…so it’s not entirely fiction…that’s where it gets a little hinky.

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

True

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

No, it is still fiction

He’s using historical FACTS (like Melo’s DUI, suspension, and marijuana investigation) to create a parody of a Christmas Carol. It is fiction if the entire story isn’t true.

Swats.

by Colin Neilson on Dec 21, 2010 3:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Absolutely

It’s a good thing to spend time with your wife and kids, but see what happens if you have no hobbies and you spend all your time with your wife. She’ll kick your ass and tell you to get a hobby.

Got to have a hobby right now. In terms of time spent, my number one hobby right now appears to be plowing snow out of the driveway. I’ve already plowed as much this year as all of last winter.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

where the hell do you live?

I live in Fo Co, and my family lives in Westminster (CO) and we haven’t had any snow.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Grand Lake

I’ve got over 20" in my yard, and it drifts deeper into my driveway. It’s snowed every day since last Friday, is snowing now, and is forecast to keep snowing until Friday.

I thought it was more like 40", but my wife made me measure it.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 12:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Holy cow man

That’s nuts! Have fun with that!

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Damn how far is that from Fairplay?

My brother lives in Fairplay

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Couple hours north of fairplay.

On the south side of Rocky Mountain National Park. Estes Park is on the north side of the park.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh Duh! I knew that!! hullllo

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I board

and I normally don’t go this early – waiting for more terrain to open. But the snow is so good, I might have to make an exception.

Winter Park, to me, is the best resort to go to for people driving from Denver. Much less traffic than going over eisenhower. Much shorter (time) round trip than Breck and keystone.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 12:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Dude

my friends are saying it’s unreal. Best boarding they have had in a long time. I don’t go I never got to cuz my travel coach wouldn’t let us so i never learned but a lot of my friends do and they said it’s awesome. I;d get out there if i was you!

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:26 PM MST up reply actions  

It's fantastic already (From what I hear)

I did the Colorado pass this year and Breck and Keystone already have some phenomenal snow.

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by CombatChuk on Dec 21, 2010 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Next time you are sitting in traffic for eisenhower

look at the exit for Winter Park. It’s 35 minutes from that exit to the Mary Jane Parking lot where you can ski from your car to the lift. No bumper to bumper parking lot on the interstate. No parking and waiting 10 minutes for a bus to take you to the lift. No parking and walking a mile to the lift.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 12:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh I know

I did the Rocky Mountain Super Pass last year and did a lot of Winter Park/Copper (With a weekend in Steamboat)

I’ll probably do that pass again next year…

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by CombatChuk on Dec 21, 2010 12:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Last time I was in Grand Lake, the pine beetle killed...

… everything, and some entity was just about to buy that cool hotel between GL and RMNP where our family liked to explore and eat lunch who was going to close the property to the public. Is the forest regenerating? Is that cool hotel a gated community now? I’d like to go back, but those were 2 downer things.

Denver first.

by margabelle on Dec 21, 2010 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Well

the pine beetles did kill a lot. But a lot of the dead stuff has been cut down, so you can see more of the views. Won’t be able to go anywhere and no see beetle kill, unfortunately.

The Grand Lake Lodge was closed for a couple of years, but they re-opened this year. They did develop some of the land behind the lodge into housing, but the lodge itself is still the same.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

This has been the weirdest winter so far

mountains getting record snow and front range getting nothing. I swear there was some sort of force field from Evergreen to the west yesterday, just a huge snow cloud hanging up to Mt. Evans but not budging west at all, just staying there all day.

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by Phil H. on Dec 21, 2010 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Over dramatization FTL

if you want political banter then go to….gasp….a political blog!(shocking revelation!). This is a blog fully committed to one sports team and you are going to be surprised when the conversation revolves around that one team? C’mon

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by Phil H. on Dec 21, 2010 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Hmmm....

Maybe I do take the Nuggets too seriously, and hold professional athletes to a much higher standard than maybe I hold myself. Maybe I should get more active locally, in church and the school board, and make a more active effort to rip myself away from the Nuggets broadcast while ripping my daughter away from anything “Glee” related and my wife away from the latest Oprah book-club book she’s reading to spend quality family time together in prayer and reflection.

Naaaaahh….

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by margabelle on Dec 21, 2010 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

After reading your reply...

I’m not so sure its a good thing if you spend more time with your wife and kid…
…and BOOM goes the dynamite.

by AC Ballz on Dec 21, 2010 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I loved it,

except the stuff about his personal life was a little out of line.

by Rainbow skyline on Dec 21, 2010 10:35 AM MST reply actions  

meh

poor taste, good writing, but not cool to melo (personaly).

dont talk shit about shit you dont know about… just saying
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by stardate armageddon on Dec 21, 2010 10:59 AM MST reply actions  

agree about the LaLa stuff being over the line

Also, I don’t think the stuff about LeBron accurately reflects how LBJ must be feeling these days about his decision.

The best stuff to me was the Ghost of Xmas Past part, the Nuggets tolerating all that boneheaded bad behavior.

by ParkHillNative on Dec 21, 2010 11:10 AM MST reply actions  

They tolerated JR's boneheaded behavior too...So it's not like a new thing for the Nuggets..

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

JR = role player

Melo = “star” franchise player

by Melonugg on Dec 21, 2010 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Nuggs as a team have taken on the personality of their star player

loads of talent, suspect follow through!
Time for the Melo era to end

by Melonugg on Dec 21, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh okay...

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

And because Melo is a franchise player, there is no way they trade him over those issues.

See my comment above….point being they had even more reason to NOT trade him….he put people in the stands…

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

My point is

what a great leader we have

by Melonugg on Dec 21, 2010 11:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Well, his teammates voted him a team captain for the past few years...so I guess they would

have some opinion on his leadership skills….And this was after his issues..

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

He's the best player on the team SDcat

come on now. Look at all the teams and their captains and tell me who they are. The best player on every team will be a captain unless they are a rookie or 2nd or 3rd year into the league.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 11:43 AM MST up reply actions  

Meh..I think there is more to it. I mean come on....

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Eh

Talent goes a long way with “captains” look at all sports. Hockey is the worst. The best players always has the C on their chest. But, the Avs have been different and Footer has it which is greatly deserved. But Duchene or Stastney will have it in a few years and it will be the same. I could be wrong, and Ian Lapperier wore an A for the Avs as a third line grinder which is pretty unheard of. But still Melo’s going to be a captain wherever he goes. I have never really seen him express leadership on the court or off but i could be wrong.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Interesting piece of satire. Sort of the dark side of it all and painting the Front office and others as the good guys and Melo as Scrooge. Where’s the part about the f.o. failing to bring in a legit center?!? And the part where the f.o. proves to Melo that they’re willing to spend to keep or build an elite team around him and not just “Todd Helton” him after K-Mart and Billups’ contracts are up?? haha…

Enjoyed it.

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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2010 11:49 AM MST reply actions  

That is true

Denver has had a dysfunctional FO over the years…. Passing up on David Lee for LK is about as much proof as you need.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

I see how it is...Nate says more or less the same thing as me...and now you agree

Nah, it’s cool…really…it’s fine

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I never disagreed with you

You are just always disagreeing with a lot of people and I made the point that I think everyone is trying to get across to you. I don;t agree with your stance on keeping him til the deadline or rest of the season though. I think he needs to go now.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:12 PM MST up reply actions  

..I disagree with your assessment of my disagreement :P

We just disagree about Melo. And I think he’s being painted in quite harsh terms at times by some here. I know it’s hard being a potential “jiltee”

I( was really just messing you with…where that’s sarcasm font thingee?)

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions  

hahaha

no i feel ya no worries. And I completely see where you’re comin from and why you’re defending him. It sucks that he’s leaving. I really would prefer him to stay (Unless we could get Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace for him in which I think we actually get better). But I am a realist fan. When he’s going you gota except that and look forward to getting somthing good in return. My friends who are die hard Bronco fans hate me because they asked me at the begginning of the year how many wins Denver would get. I said no more than 5. I am not on track on winning more than $100 from my friends. I also said Tebow would start by Christmas… I won that bet too ;)

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh I mentioned that above, but was shot down.

Maybe should have said a legit center and that would have made the difference.

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Good points

but they are $28 million over the cap this year. They’ve been over the cap essentially the entire time Melo has been here. They have the fifth highest payroll in the league, and are $8 million more than the 6th team. Aside from the Kleiza for David Lee deal, they’ve essentially been so hamstrung by the Kmart deal that their options have been very limited. What signing or trade have they passed on that could have brought in a legit center? Now that they are finally getting in a position to have some flexibility to bring someone in, Melo wants out.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 12:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Frustrating

isn’t it?

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

ehhhh

The FO chaos of this summer didn’t help things. The Nuggets, I would argue have made great decisions (Chauncey, AAA, Ty Lawson) and some bad ones (Kenyon’s contract, not using trade exceptions, flubbed drafts and bidding against themselves for Chris Andersen) as well as moves made for PR (Allen Iverson) that have contributed to where we are now.

Masai has no track record. So it will be interesting to see what he does.

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by Jeffrey Morton on Dec 21, 2010 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

He will WOW us

He’ll get us Dwight Howard for just KMart’s contract!!

BANK ON IT!!!!

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by CombatChuk on Dec 21, 2010 12:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll be everythin in my bank account

that he doesn’t… Ya down??? =)

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

hahaha

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by CombatChuk on Dec 21, 2010 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Come on Chuck!

Both my fantasy teams are in the Championship playig for over 1500 total and I have won all my best with my friends about the Broncos this year… keep my streak going!!!!!!!!

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:44 PM MST up reply actions  

won all my bets*

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:45 PM MST up reply actions  

agreed on chaos

but when people imply the nuggets haven’t demonstrated to Melo that they are willing to spend enough to field a competitive team, I strongly disagree with that.

Yes, they dumped Camby for nothing to save salary. Were they truly wishing to spend as little as possible, they could have also let A.I. go without trading for Billups.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions  

What about passing up DeJuan Blair?

I don’t know, I might not understand all the intricacies, but didn’t they sell for cash the draft pick that could’ve brought in Blair? And then not long after that, Stan is ponying up half a billion to buy the St. Louis Rams.

If Melo were to just complain about stuff like that, he’d have my sympathy. But it hasn’t been clear this whole time what his deal is. If he just thinks Denver is lame and wants to be in big, splashy New York, he doesn’t have my sympathy. It’s kind of hard to figure it out from what he’s said the last few months.

by ParkHillNative on Dec 21, 2010 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Yea Blair was a big mistake

He was a second round non guarenteed contract pick too… big time fuck up.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Blair would have been great

There were several people on here (not me) who called that. But I also recall that Blair’s knees make Brandon Roy’s look fantastic in comparison. So I can understand shying away from a player like that given Denver’s experiences with knees.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 12:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes

Blair is missing both of his ACL’s. Thats serious for a guy of his size (he’s not the skinniest of all people). But still, a minnimum 2nd round pick contract not guarenteed for a guy who dominated college ball and is playing great in the pros without a knee injury?? damn that was a fail.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah

and it’s not just that they didn’t pick him — I’ll accept that they were nervous about his knees — but they sold the pick for cash. They didn’t bother using it for anything else, either.

by ParkHillNative on Dec 21, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Still for a non guarenteed contract

you freakin give the guy a chance… the scout should have been fired after that fuck up

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:51 PM MST up reply actions  

But what happens

when he gets off his rookie contract without getting injured? Now you are giving him $6 million or more a year on a long term contract and he blows out his knee walking back to his car after signing it.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

You trade him to a sucker team that's desperate...

Before he walks out…

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by CombatChuk on Dec 21, 2010 1:03 PM MST up reply actions  

He's got nothin to blow out!

All his ligaments are gone. He just won’t have as long a professional career as others.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 1:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Twice now you've misspelled guaranteed.

Why would you think there was an ‘e’ in front of the ‘n’ in guaranteed? I thought you wanted to be a sports writer?

Just watch, Blair will go down any time now and he’ll never be the same guy.

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by Thursty on Dec 21, 2010 6:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Cuz i really don't care

If i mispell on a blog. I state my opinion and don’t really take the time to re-read my stuff b/c this is a blog. Sorry if it annoys you but as long as I get my point accross then I’m happy. And I don’t want to be a sports writer much anymore haha I changed my career path to Communications to broaden my job possibilities.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks man!

You too!

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 11:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Good point

besides everyone wants a “legit” center, these types don’t grown on trees

by Melonugg on Dec 21, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

You can't blame...

The front office for failing to bring in a legit center. 27 other teams in the league have failed to bring in a legit center. They don’t grow on trees, but they do seem to grow on Phil Jackson’s ass.

by AC Ballz on Dec 21, 2010 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Column Requests

1) Andrew doing a hard hitting interview with SDcat about hitting the 74,000 post milestone this week.

2) Column of Doom 2.0. It’s been a month.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 12:46 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

and I agree on both counts

by ParkHillNative on Dec 21, 2010 12:48 PM MST up reply actions  

dislike

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I know , I just don't enjoy having it pointed out... I don't like unwarranted attention...

I just like good debates….

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Why? Seriously..I'm not proud of it you know...(

and it’s not an accurate assessment due to accidental double and triple posts

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

You're a devoted nuggets fan

What’s wrong with that…. Nothing to be ashamed of. I had over 15,000 comments on John Hollingers chat and more that 3/4 of them were arguing with a freakin Lakers troll for 3 years in a row… that’s not something to be proud of.

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Actually the majority of my posts are at Purple Row

that pesky 162 game season!!!

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Ohhhhh

so your 74,000 are all of SB nation, not just Stiffs?

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope not all of them...good god, I could never have that much to say about the Nuggets

except for telling GN he’s not funny repeatedly (sorry GN no offense)
I don’t even have 10,000 yet here at DS.

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 1:01 PM MST up reply actions  

hahaha thats funny

I’m a Red Sox fan. We have much to discuss ;)

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 1:04 PM MST up reply actions  

No no...we have nothing to discuss....lol

:P

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 1:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey

I like the Rockies a lot… but not when they are playing my Sox =)

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm sorry that I cannot say I like the Red Sox.....at all...:P

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 1:08 PM MST up reply actions  

not many do

it’s okay though =)

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I would say at least 3/4 are Purple Row,

and the remainder primarily here and some at MHR

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I see

so you’re a big Rockies fan then… I take it that’s what Purple Row is? I’m still fairly new to the SB Nation besides stiffs… all my comments have been here on stiffs haha

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh yes...sorry Purple Row is the Rockies SBNation blog

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

hahaha that's awesome

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by Garrett Olsen on Dec 21, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

74,000… damn. That’s a lot of posts.

As for “The Column,” I don’t know man. I’m not feeling so “doomy” these days. Once the Melo deal finally happens it’s gonna be like a weight lifted off my shoulders, and in the mean time, it’s just a waiting game. There’s really nobody left to bring over to the Dark Side, so I consider my mission accomplished.

Know when to fold em'.
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by GoldenNugget on Dec 21, 2010 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Ah but this is where you are wrong oh one of Doom..

Just because Melo may be traded does not mean we’ve (I’ve) gone over to the Dark Side…..that’s a false confirmation bias…

Is Melo they only reason you feel doomy? What about JR, or Kmart or GK and his terrible coaching? Surely there is something you can find to be unhappy about it!

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Or

that the games feel meaningless right now because of the imminent destruction of the team.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, that should warrant a couple of Doom and Glooms....

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I doubt

that GN is thinking he’s brought you to the Dark Side. I think he just means he’s brought over as many converts as he’s going to.

This is where you refuse to strike your father down and stand by GN’s side in his place. You throw your lightsaber down and GN says “And now, young SDcat… you will die!” and starts shooting blue lightning bolts from his fingertips.

by ParkHillNative on Dec 21, 2010 2:14 PM MST up reply actions  

And then I send out a mind message to Yoda

and he brings the whole Jedi force and we win. The End

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Not a chance

Know when to fold em'.
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I got people nicknaming their kids after me.
I'll reserve the optimism for the 17-win seasons; now is the time for scrutiny.
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by GoldenNugget on Dec 21, 2010 2:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Have you seen Return of the Jedi?

You know how it ends right?

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

What sacrilege is this

Has he seen Return of the Jedi? Of course he has. Anyone who hadn’t seen it was deported long ago as a heretic.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 2:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Then why does he think Darth Vader wins?

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 2:43 PM MST up reply actions  

/snort

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 2:43 PM MST up reply actions  

No, I'm actually a pretty easy to please person

Our team won’t be perfect, but at least I can invest my heart into it once Melo’s gone. I think George will be a different person, and coach, without a superstar and the team will likely play better because of it, including JR. Also my expectations will no longer be “championship caliber” if you will, so I won’t be as critical.

I guess I could write a piece about the fans transition from Doom to Optimist, because I’ll likely undergo this metamorphosis soon. I could compare different perspectives, and how they relate to the Nuggets future. Idk, something to think about. But in the end I think my job as Doomsayer is complete. SDCat is about the only one still living in Rainbow City with Unicorns and glittery rain falling from the sky, and I don’t think that will ever change. Everyone else seems to be living in reality, and it’s about damn time. It took a couple of Columns as well as a non-stop battle of arguments, but people eventually saw the light…. or dark, depending on how you see it.

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I'll reserve the optimism for the 17-win seasons; now is the time for scrutiny.
Josh McRoberts you STIFF!!!

by GoldenNugget on Dec 21, 2010 2:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Rainbow City

I want to see unicorns!

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 2:27 PM MST up reply actions  

(I'm sad that GN totally didn't get my joke. He must not have a very good sense of humor).

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 2:33 PM MST up reply actions  

No, I got ya

But I just wanted to let you know I’m really not like that because I feel you probably believe I am.

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by GoldenNugget on Dec 21, 2010 3:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I believe what you write :P

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

You, sir, are a fraud!!

You have let down your fans. I think you should be traded for a doomsayer from the Nets or the Knicks blog. I am sorely disappointed in your lack of doom stayitude.

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

To continue the reference above

He is Darth Vader, refusing to kill his son, and throwing the emperor into the pit.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 2:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I think you are confused. I was the one refusing to kill my father...according to PHN

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Are you excited

for the Christmas special on BBCA on Saturday?

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

BBCA?

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 3:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh BBC America? I don't have that channel

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

You have to get it

The Dr. Who Christmas special on Saturday.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 3:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I won't be here...I'll be in Denver

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 3:38 PM MST up reply actions  

loved it

I like good comedy – but the one thing Andrew is not predicting correctly is JR being a nugget in the future while gk is still coach – that will never ever ever ever happen.

by hungryhead on Dec 21, 2010 1:15 PM MST reply actions  

Melo is gone

Do you guys like the nets package? I think its a good move for the nuggets

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by Mike Viola on Dec 21, 2010 1:30 PM MST reply actions  

See the Melo Harrington trade link on the fan shots

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Sounds like it's the best we'll get...

I can live (happily) with Derrick Favors, him and Nene will be the formidable Duo for years to come.

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by CombatChuk on Dec 21, 2010 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

i agree.

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by Mike Viola on Dec 21, 2010 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

We just need to figure out

a way to get David Khan involved in these Melo trade talks. Then we could do a balkman for Kevin Love trade.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 2:12 PM MST reply actions  

Fun story

Really creative for sure. I agree with whoever made the Sopranos comment; it definitely just kind of dropped off and left you hangin. But overall it sent a great message, a really great message.

The Lala stuff was pretty tacky I have to admit. I’m not one to be easily offended, at all, but you’re just pushing it when you get so personal like that. Nobody ever wants to see someone’s marriage destroyed, and though you weren’t implying that, it just wasn’t necessary for the story, and neither was the part about Kiyan.

But again, overall it was a great read with a fitting message, though I will say when it’s all said and done Lebron will probably consider leaving Cleveland as the best decision he ever made.

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by GoldenNugget on Dec 21, 2010 2:12 PM MST reply actions  

I made the Sopranos comment :)

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 2:15 PM MST up reply actions  

That noise you just heard

was hell freezing over as GN and SDcat agreed about something…

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 2:16 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL!!!!! that's funny.

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I think some Stiffs readers are overreacting a lil

Andrew is free to write whatever fiction he wants. I don’t think including the parts about Kiyan and LaLa was over the line or distasteful at all.

He was describing an alternate future version of events in a clear parody of Dickens’ “A Christmas Carol”, not saying that those things were likely to happen. Could Lala end up cheating on Carmelo if things go south in New York? Potentially. Could Carmelo end up spending less time with Kiyan due to the hectic nature of a New York life? Maybe. Why is it so distasteful to everyone to simple point out that these things are possibilities? I understand that both Kiyan and Lala are a part of Melo’s personal life, but people write “fan fiction” about similar events all the time. Is it really that big a deal to say “Hey, Carmelo’s wife could end up cheating on him” or “Kiyan might have to go to school that keeps him out of Carmelo’s life” or “Carmelo Anthony might end up blowing up to Glen Davis proportions”? I don’t think so.

That being said, I thought it was an enjoying read. I think the ironic part of it all is that for everyone nailing Andrew to a cross for creating a fictional telling of Carmelo’s “Scrooge” experience, he’s actually suggesting that both he and the Nuggets (and Denver) would be far better off if he actually stayed with the team and realized what a great core he has around him.

In any case, some of you need to lighten up some. Sheesh.

Swats.

by Colin Neilson on Dec 21, 2010 3:26 PM MST reply actions  

thank you

it was a great read and funny as hell……. chill out people

by JBnuggs on Dec 21, 2010 5:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Like I said, I was not offended - at all

I just don’t understand why the story needed to include the “possibility” of Melo and LaLa getting divorced to make it’s point. It doesn’t bother me like it probably does others though.

Know when to fold em'.
Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of Denver Stiffs.
I got people nicknaming their kids after me.
I'll reserve the optimism for the 17-win seasons; now is the time for scrutiny.
Josh McRoberts you STIFF!!!

by GoldenNugget on Dec 21, 2010 5:55 PM MST up reply actions  

You call it fiction but it is closer to tabloid pulp than anything else.

Oh but this is just a blog, it’s only opinion and apparently anything goes so don’t take what I say seriously. Geez Beefy, lighten up, just expressing my blog-like opinion.

by MMGraves on Dec 21, 2010 9:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Pretty Funny

FYI – I don’t think Boeheim would ever consider Melo a Scrooge given his huge donations to ‘Cuse and the legitimacy Melo has given Syracuse’s recruiting, which is through the roof since 2003.

by Pusherman on Dec 21, 2010 3:29 PM MST reply actions  

Upon further review, it seems to me that the

Scrooge factor is out of place. I think

an “It’s a Wonderful Life” would have been a better story to build from…..

and given that Andrew doesn’t have an ending…

“Every time Melo gives another cause he’s money, a Denver Stiff gets annoyed….”or something…:P

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 3:33 PM MST reply actions  

gives his money to another cause, a Denver Stiff gets annoyed....(I'm just kidding)

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 3:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Eeesh

“His legs hurt from the hardness of the ground.”

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by chiy on Dec 21, 2010 4:20 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Question on Karl

It has been mentioned more than a few times that him being able to coach this season is “remarkable”. Is it remarkable just for the fact that he survived at all, or is it also remarkable that he has recovered quickly enough to be able to coach?

Everyone I’ve ever known that had cancer died, so surviving is remarkable to me, but among survivors is there typically a long recovery period, a la recovery from knee surgery?

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2010 4:30 PM MST reply actions  

I am surprised he is talking let alone coaching

He had stage 4 squamous cell neck carcinoma (this means it metastasized) and normally has a horrible prognosis.
Right now, it appears he is that 1% chance of having an increased 5-yr lifespan from successful treatment.
It is a miracle he is on the court at all.
There is no 100% eradication of cancer especially because it was a carcinoma. It will still be with George his whole life. I am hoping he keeps it at bay though.

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by JR15 on Dec 21, 2010 5:27 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Funny how so many don’t get it that it’s just a story. Andrew, you must have spent a lot of time on that. As a piece of writing it has it’s ups and downs as so many do but it’s not something I could have written so I do appreciate the work that went into it.

So for the most part I liked it.

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by Thursty on Dec 21, 2010 6:40 PM MST reply actions  

Oh we all get that it's just a story........

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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2010 8:07 PM MST up reply actions  

ha!

Great read.
Thanks

by CCH on Dec 21, 2010 8:31 PM MST reply actions  

Why would the ghost of bzdelik

give a hoot about Carmelo or the Nuggets organization, ghost or otherwise?

by CloudBurst on Dec 21, 2010 8:33 PM MST reply actions  

good job

Was thinking of the Movie SCROOGED while reading this.

by InboundingLobPass on Dec 21, 2010 8:35 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

this story is complete crap

i find it funny how melo isnt gonna be a hall of famer because he left his teammates but lebron is obviously up on the stage after leaving cleveland. you guys should just suck it up and realize that he might leave and your just gonna have to deal with it

by lolwhatanazn on Dec 21, 2010 8:51 PM MST reply actions  

Sucking it up and accepting it

is the exact opposite of what we should be doing. I want Melo to stay, and I hope he does.

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by MontyIII on Dec 21, 2010 10:37 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Great read Andrew, thanks!

As for the comments, why is everyone so damn sensitive?
Some of the story was out of line? Really?? Why? The New York section was painted in a worst possible scenario. Barring death/injury, what could be worse than your dreams collapsing and your wife running away with someone else?

Really guys & gals, it’s a blog, you read it for the ENTERTAINMENT and post for the discussion, so leave the overly sensitive BS somewhere else.

by iamhe77 on Dec 21, 2010 10:04 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Great piece Andrew!

Man I hope that Kevin Love/Marc Gasol future happens!

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by Battlecat on Dec 22, 2010 12:04 AM MST reply actions  

Finally got a chance to read through this

Kinda ridiculous, but thoroughly enjoyable nonetheless.

Nevermind the fact that the Heat should be collectively and individually successful for years while owning the biggest media spotlight in the NBA. Or the fact that the Nugs need two christmas miracles to get Marc Gasol and Kevin Love here ever.

Despite all that, I took away from Andrew’s writing that doing things for the right reasons can ultimately be more rewarding than trying to take the easiest route.

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by runningdonut on Dec 22, 2010 4:33 AM MST reply actions  

Melo doesnt owe anyone anything

There is no loyalty in sports and some people act as if you own Melo and he should do as you wish.

If two years ago, Dwade, or if diwight or cp3 was offered straight up for Melo you guys would kick Melo out of here so fast, without a good bye or even thinking twice about it.

If George Karl was offered an extension and the Tar Heel job opened up and he declined the extension to go coach there, I’m pretty sure you guys would not be trashing him.

What about Chauncey where was the loyalty to the Hometown Kid when he played in Denver the first time. What about Camby where was the loyalty towards him when he was traded for a bag of peanuts. What about Melo 3 yrs back when A.I. was here, I’m pretty sure Melo was being shopped that summer and was on the trading block.

Before Chauncey got here alot of people wanted to get rid of Melo.

Now people are trashing him cause he wants to make a decision that doesn’t favor the nuggets regarding his future and his family’s future.

Melo should do whats best for him, because I’m sure the Denver nuggets front office would do whats best for them.

People keep saying oh well we supported him when he was in trouble, not all of you did. I read alot of he is a thug get his ghetto ass outta here and all this other stuff.

by devv83 on Dec 22, 2010 10:38 AM MST reply actions  

i have been reading denver stiffs since march 2008

not a single time did anyone use the words ghetto ass in reference to melo. nobody ever specifically use the word thug about melo. i have said time and again he is a snitch and a pussy for throwing a sucker punch and running away at madison square garden. huge difference.

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