Last team to score wins the game (Nuggets/Warriors recap)
If you were lucky enough to have a Physical Education in high school, often towards the end of the class period the coach/teacher would shout, "Last team to score wins." Well, that is exactly what tonight's thrilling Nuggets vs. Warriors game felt like ... an offensive showdown where the last team to score won. And luckily for Denver fans it was the Nuggets who scored last.
In my preview for this one I talked extensively about wanting Denver to show effort and if they did that than win or lose I'd be happy. Well, a funny thing happened tonight ... the Nuggets exerted a lot of effort on the offensive end and had Denver lost it would have felt like getting sucker punched.
The Nuggets were able to gain control of the game about midway through the second quarter. Denver would push leads and the Warriors (right in character) would bounce back with some hot shooting and get right back into the game. It felt like the Nuggets would assume total control at some point as the Warriors were bound to cool off at some point. That wasn't the case. Denver was getting to the rim, hitting difficult shots and hitting shots from the outside. The Warriors were relying more on a perimeter game and jumpers and usually teams can't maintain their hot outside shooting, but Golden State is an atypical team and did remain hot and even got some very easy buckets at the rim from time-to-time. Denver's defense just couldn't get stops and their offense would go into lulls with multiple turnovers. So, instead of Denver running away with the game it would be the Warriors who would capture the game late and look to put things away.
At the 4:10 mark of the fourth quarter Ty Lawson drove in from the elbow and came down awkwardly on his left ankle, he would leave the game and the Nuggets had been utilizing his penetration all night. At this point Denver was down 111-109 thanks to a Stephen Curry three-pointer. With Lawson out the Warriors put together a quick mini-run and grabbed a 120-115 lead with just 1:51 left on the clock. The Nuggets looked dead in the water with momentum gone and their slashing point guard sidelined. But the Nuggets didn't quit as J.R. Smith made a vicious two handed dunk through the lane and Anthony Carter hit two clutch free throws after Corey Maggette turned the ball over and committed a foul. Suddenly, just 30 seconds later, Denver was down just one 120-119.
Denver was able to come up with a loose ball and their third straight stop after Curry missed a runner and Ronny Turiaf fumbled the ball in the paint. With about 39 ticks left on the clock I was hoping Denver was going to go two-for-one on possessions and take a quick shot, but that didn't happen. Instead, Joey Graham got the ball with the clock winding down and took a difficult jumper from the baseline that Monta Ellis got a piece of ... the ball was sailing short and like he did all night, Kenyon Martin was there for a quick redirection and score. Denver leads 121-120, but 24.9 seconds remained on the clock.
The Nuggets were unable to come up with their fourth straight stop as Ellis hit a little floater in the paint and things looked very grim for Denver, down 122-121 with just 15 seconds remaining. Joey Graham was a hero all night and when the ball wound up in his hands from the elbow and he launched a three, you just hoped the shot would fall ... it didn't and Nene wasn't able to secure the rebound, but a jump ball was called between Arron Afflalo and Maggette.
J.R. gained possession of the jump ball and coach Karl immediately called for a timeout with 1.4 seconds remaining. The final inbounds play would be thrown in my K-Mart to Smith and J.R. floated towards the sideline just inside midcourt and loaded up a double-clutch three-pointer. As the shot left Smith's hands the right side of Ellis' body collided with J.R. and the refs blew their whistle and sent Swish to the line for three-free ones. I was watching the game on DVR and just caught up live at Smith stepped to the foul line. On the phone with my buddy Rory we discussed how Smith had missed free throws in this position before and his poor foul shooting this season was not a comfort. Swish nailed the first foul shot and then the second. Smith intentionally missed the third, but the ball went directly to a Warrior and they were able to get 0:01 seconds on the clock to try for a miracle tip-in. Martin batted the inbound lob pass away from the awaiting Anthony Randolph and Denver secured the win 123-122.
It was a crazy ending to a crazy offensive game. The foul on Smith was indeed a foul on Ellis, but we've all seen plays like that at the end of games result in no calls. Denver was fortunate to get get a whistle and Smith did what he needed and secured the win. You play the game the refs call and Denver, not luckily (correctly, but sometimes not called), finished the game.
Notes from the night:
- The Nuggets clearly wanted to play at a breakneck pace and they were able to accomplish that for long stretches tonight.
- Joey Graham played his finest game as a Nugget and is getting more comfortable with his newly increased minutes. Graham has desire, knowledge and skills. Maybe his skills are not starter quality or completely star quality, but he can and is a productive player. Melo will be back soon, but I have enjoyed seeing Graham make his case for a bigger role with the team. Tonight he started the first quarter with 8 points and could have had a few more had a couple shots fallen for him. Graham finished 7-15 from the field (0-1 from deep, 6-7 free throws) with 20 points and 8 rebounds (4 offensive). Graham's finest moment came at the 5:09 mark of the first quarter when he took the ball from the left elbow, drove the lane and took off for a power jam right in Anthony Randolph's face. That was one of the most violents dunks I've seen in a long time. Without Graham tonight ... Denver loses.
- Kenyon Martin led the Nuggets with 27 points on 11-18 shooting and went 5-5 from the foul line. Martin's foul shooting was awesome and came after he went 3-9 versus the 76ers. Martin was hitting jumpers, grabbing offensive boards and getting putbacks and made a couple circus shots. K-Mart doesn't often lead the team in scoring, but he had a great game and set his season-high in points. Martin also grabbed 13 rebounds with 7 of them coming on the offensive end.
- Ty Lawson. His twisted left ankle was pretty nasty ... NBA TV had a great replay of it and it looked fairly bad, but perhaps it wont keep him out too long. Lawson had 21 points and seemed destined to break his career-high of 23 points, but the freak ankle injury kept him from setting a new mark. Lawesome finished 8-12 from the field (3-5 from deep, 2-4 from the foul line), with 8 assists, 1 steal and 3 turnovers in 35 minutes. I can't believe how good this kid is and that he's a Denver Nugget ... just incredible.
- Denver's fourth player to score over 20 points was J.R. Smith. Smitty was looking to pass the ball early and started looking for his shot as the game progressed. Smith finished 8-20 from the field (1-4 from deep), but went 4-5 from the foul line and hit the game winners from the charity stripe. Smith also grabbed 5 rebounds and handed out 3 assists. Again, Denver needs production from Smith on a nightly basis and perhaps that will come as he continues to mature ... he's close to being an NBA veteran with years played, but still at 24 years-old he's very young. Smith is also rocking a mohowk in case you didn't notice.
- Nene had a rough night shooting the ball, going just 4-10 from the field for 9 points. The Brazilian did get after it on the boards by pulling down 12 rebounds (4 offensive) he also had 4 assists, 4 steals and 2 blocks. Nene did a lot of little things to help Denver win tonight as he filled up a lot of aspects on the stat sheet. Nene's steal off a lazy Ellis pass near the three-point line led to a pretty fast break dunk where Nene went around Ellis for a nice dunk ... man can move for a center.
- Arron Afflalo had a quiet 10 points in 26 minutes. He had a tough cover in Monta Ellis and got into a bit of foul trouble, but he shot the ball well (4-7) and continues to be a total professional on the floor. I found myself asking for more Afflalo in the first half, but his minutes continue to lag behind as Karl likes to play a two point guard lineup at times.
- I'm not a big fan of Anthony Carter, but he had a nice game tonight. In 21 minutes he went 2-5 from the field (1-2 from deep) and hit 4-4 from the foul line. Carter had 3 assists and 0 turnovers. Carter brought the game home after Lawson left with injury and helped the Nuggets tonight.
- After basing Malik Allen in my preview the guy comes out and plays like a solid veteran. Allen went 2-3 from the floor and hit a jumper while standing on the three-point line. The guy has decent range and hit his first two free throws of the season. I noted that Allen doesn't like to rebound and he went out and proved me wrong by grabbing 5 boards with 3 coming on the offensive end. I was pretty impressed with Allen's effort tonight and it's good to see an old man get up and bang inside to grab some difficult boards.
- Denver was 25-31 (80.6%) from the foul line and needed each one of those 25 in order to get the win tonight. With both of the best foul shooters injured it has been rough watching the Nuggets at the line, but tonight the team didn't miss a beat.
- The Nuggets defense was fairly horrific tonight ... Maggette scored 35, Ellis 32 and Curry 26 and somehow the Warriors lost ... oh ya they gave up 20+ points to four guys and hate playing defense.
- I was glad Andris Biedrins is not totally back ... when he was in the game he was getting on the boards and causing problems for Denver. Guy has a nose for the ball.
- With Maggette going off against Allen I was hoping that Renaldo Balkman or Graham could slow Maggs. Balkman didn't get the chance against the swingman.
- Ronny Turiaf looks like a bizarro version of Nene. Bizarro to me means similar, but worse in about every way. Turiaf has the shaggier beard, clunky braids/cornrows and a slightly top heavy body ... Biazrro Nene = Turiaf.
It was great to see Denver get back in the win column at home and it couldn't have come at a better time with LeBron and the LeBron's coming to town on Friday.
More on the foul or non-foul:
The NBA is a funny sport. In what other sport do the fans know that the officials are going to "let the players determine the outcome" most of the time?? When is a foul not a foul? Supposedly at the end of games when the refs are supposed to or often swallow their whistles.
At the end of close games fans have been conditioned to think whether a foul is committed or not that the call should not be made and decide the game. Why? What kind of logic is that? It's basically "cheat to win" if you are a defender and you know you can pretty much get away with murder at the end of games.
Often in the NFL you will see a costly pass interference call made on a deep pass towards the end of games that will result in game winning field goals. Why is that call made? Because there was a penalty and to not throw a flag would be shameful. Why is the NBA different? If a player is fouled on the last shot of the game and there is no call then the refs cost that team a fair chance at changing the outcome of the game.
This does not stem just from the call last night. This is yet another issue with NBA officiating. Against the 76ers Ty Lawson drove the lane and hit a layup as he was fouled, but he did not get the call that could have resulted with him hitting a free throw to tie the game. Last night against Golden State Monta Ellis wasn't so lucky and he committed a great basketball no-no ... he didn't go straight up in an attempt to block J.R. Smith's shot. And while Ellis didn't hack J.R. Smith he did come into contact with Smith's body as his body was leaning into Smith. The refs called it and whether they blew the whistle or not fans on either side have a gripe. For Warrior fans they can and have said, "the refs never blow the whistle there!" And if the refs didn't blow the whistle Nuggets fans would have been able to say that it was indeed a foul and the refs cost Denver a chance to tie or win the game.
For me this is just another in a line long of issues with NBA officiating. Even on the Warriors last scoring possession, Stephen Curry had an obvious carry and Monta Ellis was allowed to slightly tap the ball to himself across the paint before hitting his turnaround bank shot. Had Denver missed their last shot George Karl said in an interview with Travis Heath of Hoopsworld that:
Karl returned fire saying: "I could also send in the video of their palms and (traveling violations) before that. It was a tough game to referee."
It was a crazy ending to a offensive showdown and whichever team would have lost had reason to be upset with the last few calls, but had either team played a little defense and come up with a few stops here and there ... none of this would really have mattered. When you leave the game up to human officials in the NBA ... outcomes may vary.
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I never
realized that grazing the top of the ball for about .4 seconds can be categorized as “body contact.”
by Warrior Mentality on Jan 5, 2010 11:57 PM MST reply actions
Ellis didn’t foul when he swiped for the ball with his hand, replay showed that the refs called him for his right hip hitting J.R.’s right hip…thus the body contact.
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 6, 2010 6:51 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
If warriors fans want respect
They should stop arguing that it wasn’t a foul, because it was and instead argue for more foul calls overall. I mean who doesn’t want to watch a game where the starting five only last throughout the first half because they all foul out. Like Nate alluded to in the write up, I wouldn’t doubt the warriors would intentionally foul JR given his poor clutch free throw shooting this year.
The “starting five would all foul out” argument is bogus. The players know how to adapt their game to the way the game is called.
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
worst kind of homer
If the tables were turned. I’d be man enough to admit the Nuggets got jobbed. Why didn’t Cory Magette get a timeout, when replay shows him and Nellie screaming for one for at least a full second before Afflalo got his finger on the ball, yet just as J.R. Smith touched – and I stress TOUCHED the ball, a timeout was granted to Denver. This was a huge play in the game that you didn’t even mention in your writeup! – “Nene wasn’t able to secure the rebound, but a jump ball was called between Arron Afflalo and Maggette.” And your assessment of Monte Ellis “tapping the ball”. He never had control. You can’t travel if you have never established control of the ball.
It was a stupid play by Ellis to even take a swipe, but the contact was minimal if there at all. Despite what you’ve written, ADMIT IT – NOBODY EVER GETS CALLED FOR THAT. The refs should not have decided the game on a questionable brush foul on a 35 ft. prayer. As one of the 50 greatest players Nate Thurmond put it, “It was a homer job.”
by BackwoodsWarriorFan on Jan 6, 2010 4:50 PM MST up reply actions
man, the nuggs get all the calls
" I'm a human, not a sandwich"
by true_lakerfan on Jan 6, 2010 5:52 PM MST up reply actions
im kidding, i actually have to see the replay again
i kind of agree that there was contact with the body from what i saw lastnight. As minimal as it looked contact is contact, although why foul someone from like 35 ft away is beyond me. Just put a hand in their face.
" I'm a human, not a sandwich"
by true_lakerfan on Jan 6, 2010 5:57 PM MST up reply actions
Love the passion.
Home cooking call for J.R. at the end of the game? Sure.
Horrible … HORRIBLE basketball I.Q. by Ellis to allow the refs the slightest reason to blow their whistle? Sure.
Denver Stiffs.com: Defending the sovereignty of Nuggets Nation.
The foul on Ellis was a textbook example of “displacing the shooter”. The rules outline that case specifically to protect “the airborne shooter”. The officials had to call that one because JR was moved in the air by the contact from Ellis, taking away the opportunity to both make the shot and land on the floor without injury. Just tthink what would have happened if JR had twisted an ankle on that play and there had been no call.
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
by Thursty on Jan 6, 2010 9:25 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Monta Ellis
changed JR Smith’s shot. Just because he decided to double-clutch doesn’t necessarily mean that there was body contact made.
But I will admit, I was wrong about the no-call on Nene. Nene was fouled.
Refs did swallow their whistles down the stretch, except when it came to that final foul that pretty much secured the game for you guys.
by Warrior Mentality on Jan 6, 2010 10:51 AM MST up reply actions
It was also pretty bad that the refs missed Maggs calling for the timeout.
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 6, 2010 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah.
but at this point there’s really nothing we can do about it, just cut our losses and move onto the next game.
It was fun arguing for a bit, hah.
Good luck in your guys’ hunt to beat the Lakers! Hopefully our biggest problem come June will be what to do with 3 amazing PG/SG’s.
by Warrior Mentality on Jan 6, 2010 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
Yes, if nothing else the game sure got fans talking.
Curry was very impressive last night. In the first meeting between the teams Curry never got on track. Was fun to see him play better, but I was getting worried about his hot shooting.
Should be a fun game 3 in Oakland on January 20th …
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 6, 2010 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
I was luke warm on Curry
Until watching him play last night. Sitting right behind the basket, I was blown away when he slashed through two defenders into the lane and then did a 360 to dish the ball off for a big dunk… so sick. And the kid was 100% from beyond the arc, no? No wonder Monta was worried about his job… ; )
by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 6, 2010 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
I didn’t notice the play where Maggette was denied a timeout call, but from what everybody has written, it sounds as if the Warriors didn’t have control of the ball. You can’t call a time out if you don’t have control of the ball and just because you are touching the ball doesn’t mean you have control of the ball.
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
That Ellis changed Smith’s shot has nothing to do with anything. Double cluitching has nothing to do with anything, the replay showed that Ellis committed enough contact to deflect an airborne shooter. That makes it the correct call.
You’ll also notice I defended the no-call on ellis tapping the ball to himself which many on the Nuggets side thought was a travel.
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
Hip checks aint fouls?
hmm
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Tonight's game
was actually somewhat boring for what was definitely an offensive shootout. I was at the game tonight (through free tickets thanks to the Nuggets Facebook page :) ) and there were definitely times that I stood and cheered but more often than not I was looking at scores for the Dallas game and the first half of the Fakers game since I thought the Nuggets had this game in the bag, especially midway through the 3rd.
The last 4 minutes of the game had very big highs and lows with especially the last 40 seconds. It was very confusing being at the game for the last 5 seconds as nobody had any idea what was going on with the jump ball, why it was an inbounds pass, JR getting fouled or not, and why the warriors had the ball with .1 seconds. All in all an entertaining game and one that I was excited to see live.
by ColoradoAggie11 on Jan 6, 2010 12:01 AM MST reply actions
Sounds like
a typical NBA basketball game. It all comes down to the last five minutes.
I never
realized mugging a guy as he’s going for the rebound can not be categorized as “body contact”
Heres hoping Ty is ok. The dude is amazing, I admit I underestimated him at the start of the season. And now for the really bad news. The nuggets are saying Nene aggravated a sprain in his ankle as well. Both Lawson and Nene are being described as day to day.
We’re getting thinner by the second
Nene was not mugged
he clearly lost the ball when he was going up.
by Warrior Mentality on Jan 6, 2010 12:26 AM MST up reply actions
Ellis and Curry were getting calls all night
Nene has great speed and control for a center. The Nuggets won, just go away
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
CB Ty melo bird and nene hurt??
Hey nuggets, Portland called and they want their injuries back.
by runningdonut on Jan 6, 2010 12:19 AM MST via mobile reply actions
kmart
is proving he is worth every penny he is paid. he willed denver to victory. graham, lawson, allen and afflalo were not on the team last year. they should become even better the more they play. the injuries to billups and melo are a blessing in disguise. 123 points with the two leading scorers not playing says a lot about the potential the team has. 46 to 34 rebounding advantage (19 offensive) and 81% free throw shooting.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
Worth every penny he is paid?
Dude, I love Kmart but let’s not get carried away.
He stepped up big time last night and did what the team needed him to do. No doubt. And I love his passion. But he’s a 12 and 8 guy making over $15MM! Compare that to say Shawn Marion who’s a 17 and 10 guy making $6.6MM.
OK, now back to our regularly scheduled program.
Shawn Marion?
Kmart will fuck up Shawn Marion so bad the dude may quit the game for good. No comparison there buddy. Kmart can score if he is asked to. The Nugs need him for defense and now rebounding. Karl asks him to board more and since that point he has been a monster on the boards too.
Funny thing is the Nugs are like 0 and 8 without Billups or Kmart and 2 and 1 without Melo. How come I don’t hear anything about this? You would rather bitch about the co-MVP’s salary and try to tell me that Melo jacking up 30 shots a night is because the rest of the team isn’t getting open. LOL.
I am not counting the games that Billups and Melo are out for this comparison
With just Billups or Kmart out the Nugs are like 0 and 8.
There’s a definite flaw in your math there. The two games won without Melo were also won without Billups. So they would have to be similar to 2 and 8 without Billups.
(Even if you can’t talk without saying “like” all the time, you could try writing without using “like”. Either they were 0 and 8 or they weren’t; they can’t be like it. )
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
That is what I was trying to say
I said like once, so you can forget being an asshole on that one. Nugs are 0 and 8 with just Billups out. LIKE 0 and 5 with Kmart out (I think they are 0 and 3 when he doesn’t play the entire game but I believe he left 2 games early and they lost both of those too). And guess what? I believe the Nugs are now 2 and 1 without the man I like to refer to as Melon. The Nugs have been a better team (and I emphasize “team”) without Melo and Billups as compared to just without Billups. Follow my math smart guy? Or can’t you infer what I was trying to say in my last post? A little dumb maybe?
I'm not bashing Kmart.
I’m just saying he’s not a $15MM a year player. Hell, he makes practically the same money D-Wade makes. Then again I guess it’s not as bad as Kirilenko making more – $16MM!!!!!!
When considering albatross contracts
K-Mart is a steal compared to Agent 00. At least K-Mart is productive and leaves the heater(s) at home. You have to take all those things into consideration. Besides it’s not his fault he has an agent that robs people blind. If D-Wade wants more he should get an agent that can get more.
by Joelsopinion on Jan 6, 2010 10:42 AM MST up reply actions
could not help it
albatross contract man persona
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
KMart
Regularly does a LOT that doesn’t show up numbers-wise.
by InboundingLobPass on Jan 6, 2010 8:17 PM MST up reply actions
Put Joey in the rotation
As Melo’s backup. All I can say is losing 3 in a row at home would have been totally unacceptable. Denver is slowly getting out of their bad habits and finding a boost from someone while CB and Melo are out. I suspect the injuries are having an effect running good practices because the defense is wildly up and down and mostly just bad.
Laker call
In the playoffs a few years ago Derek Fisher mauled Brent Barry in a situation like that and got away with it, so you can see why it’s a controversial ending but both teams had chances to win it and time just ran out. I will agree with dub fans that if Kobe is running out on that last shot no way in hell he would get whistled. That doesn’t make it right though. Warriors have a right to be pissed an d throughout the course of the season there are going to be tough endings for every team not named the Lakers. Warriors played very well and it;s fun watching them play. Fuck Kobe and fuck the Lakers tho
I don't know
Tonight was pretty bad, not just the bogus foul call at the end… there were several calls in a row. Not trying to troll or anything, just looked suspicious to me. Warriors fans can’t blame completely blame it on the refs… someone (anyone) could have played defense earlier in the game (for either team really).
Bogus Foul Call??
The ref was inches from the play and the replay clearly shows that Monta Ellis jumped into JR instead of straight up and down (as Nate mentions.) It was the easiest call of the night and probably the ONLY correct one in the last 5 minutes of that HORRIBLY officiated game. On every level of competitive basketball, the defensive design in that scenario
is to put a hand in the shooter’s face and if it goes in, AT LEAST YOU DIDN’T FOUL THE GUY. I suppose you foul him on purpose if it’s Shaq and even then, I’d rather take my chances with the clock running than with a guy at the line.
Warriors fan needs to be pissed at Monta and the fact that his BBall IQ needs to catch up to his incredible, natural talent. I love blaming the refs for changing games and imposing their will. Unfortunately for Nelly and team, this time they got it right.
Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
wait wait wait wait
A Laker fan complaining about officiating? In a Nuggets game??
HAHHAHhahAHaHa man oh man oh man
the fisher "non call"
thats exactly what I thought about when I was watching this game. Shoulda been a foul call. Goes back to what Nate was saying. So the refs shouldnt blow the whistle in the last seconds of a game? That means a player can get an extra shove or hip check (monta ellis) to alter a player’s shot. If its a foul call it.
by GottaLoveMelo on Jan 8, 2010 9:29 AM MST up reply actions
Personally, I am grateful to the refs for increasing our chances of getting John Wall. heh heh Seriously, though, that was not a foul. At the same time, I felt like Monta made a mental error being that aggressive. Great play, but 25% of the time, the refs will make the wrong call on that, which they did.
Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.
seriously
monta ellis complaining about stephen curry being a starter in the PRESEASON. do you think golden state needs another guard?
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
Exactly
What the hell are the Ws going to do with 3 undersized SGs/PGs? Who knows. I’m sure Nellie will find some way to work them into the rotation together.
Nellie sets the record for career coaching wins this season
and then gets canned at the end of the season. That’s my bet, without having checked if he has a long guaranteed contract in place.
by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 6, 2010 1:00 PM MST up reply actions
I don't think so
The Warriors are like the Nuggets in a sense that they are such cursed franchises that once they get their hands on a hall of fame coach, regardless of how well they perform or not they ain’t going to let them go simply for the security they get. I can pretty much guarantee if Nellie doesn’t have his track record and neither does Karl they are both already goners.
by GoldenNugget on Jan 6, 2010 11:49 PM MST up reply actions
True
But the Dubs fans I know have had it with him (I know that’s not a representative sample). If any coach has lost control over his players, it’s Nellie (Pietrus, SJAX, now All Day Monta). They’re so far removed from the upset over Dallas in the playoffs, there’s no magic left in the bay area for the fans to want to keep him. And yet there one of the best teams to watch on any given night.
by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 7, 2010 9:31 AM MST up reply actions
yes and no
true warriors fans know all the problems stem from above Nellie. Nellie isn’t the best coach but his coaching ability is higher than the roster talent level (if that makes sense).
i’d take nellie as our coach till he’s 90 years old if it meant cohan would sell to an owner who cared and ran a productive organization
so you'd pass on john wall???
i like curry and ellis alot, but Wall will be a superstar. We can always trade ellis or curry, but you don’t pass on a kid like Wall
maybe
the refs felt like there was a least a halfway decent chance the that shot goes in because JR is shooting it instead of someone else…
If theres a chance the shot goes in then a foul call is more likely, however if it had no chance in the first place….
by InboundingLobPass on Jan 6, 2010 3:21 AM MST up reply actions
I was at the game
From what I saw, it wasn’t a question of whether the Warriors fouled J.R. or not, but who fouled him. Also, before Ellis scored to make it 122-121, he traveled and Curry carried the ball.
The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.
We were this close to losing to the Warriors and Sixers back to back
Not trying to be a buzz kill or anything but the reality is we won that game on an absolutely horrendous call. I still loved this game. The passion and energy from our bench players (and Karl) were what I want to see every time I turn on a Nuggets game. Hopefully Melo learns something about the game while watching from the sidelines.
But I do have to ask. Why is it Karl waits till all his great players are injured to start getting exited about coaching?
Smith created all the body contact..
he threw his butt back awkwardly in an attempt to create contact, which was very little. No way that should of been called. He’s even quoted as saying after the game that he was surprised he got the call. Nobody would of said a thing if no call had been made.
Another clueless party heard from. We can tell because you write “of” where it should be “have”.
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
by Thursty on Jan 6, 2010 9:32 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Man
I would have hated to have had you as an English teacher in school.
by Joelsopinion on Jan 6, 2010 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
Ugh, reminds me of my roommate
The dude has to correct you on absolutely EVERYTHING you say. So now I just don’t talk because I’m tired of being treated like I’m a term paper being graded by a loud voice every time I talk. Not hating on Thursty, but I’m just saying, it’s the net man. People just try to say what they say. If I had an editor for every message I typed over the net I would never have any decent conversations.
by GoldenNugget on Jan 6, 2010 11:54 PM MST up reply actions
Hah, Good One!
Stop getting worked up over the outcome of something you can't control.
~Anonymous
by billybobjoe22 on Jan 6, 2010 7:53 PM MST up reply actions
good basketball analysis there by you
sorry if I was in a rush
The View from the Not-So-Cheap Seats...
Here are some things I noticed that may or may not have been caught on TV…
-For the second game in a row, Carmelo Anthony wasn’t on the bench with his teammates. I asked a few people associated with the Nuggets as to why Melo – who sat regularly with his teammates in some fly suits while hurt last season – isn’t out there and no one would/could give me a straight answer. Am I the only one that thinks this is bizarre? (Chris Andersen was also noticeably absent from the bench, but I was told he was in the locker room “rehabbing.”)
-Stephen Curry may be undersized, but he has one of the sweetest jumpers I’ve seen in a long time. The kid can play.
-Even though it happened right in front of me, I couldn’t tell how bad Ty Lawson’s ankle sprain was. The pass he threw before twisting his ankle might have been his most irresponsible pass of the season. The guy is such a stud, though. I think we’re looking at our starting point guard of the future in Lawson.
-It was hard to tell if J.R. Smith really got “fouled” or not on that final play in real, live time and they didn’t show the replay on the Pepsi Center scoreboard. From my vantage point, it looked like a no-foul and when I saw the replay later, I really think the Nuggets got lucky there. That said, Nene was gang-raped after rebounding the Joey Graham miss and no call was made and I’m pretty sure Monta Ellis traveled before making the Warriors go-ahead bucket a possession earlier.
-Highlight of the Game: Knowing what an unreliable free throw shooter J.R. Smith is, all the educated Nuggets fans in the stands (like me) desperately tried to hush the crowd as to not distract J.R. Even Kenyon Martin got into it, turning to the crowd, flapping his arms in the “be quiet” motion and barked: “everyone calm the fuck down!” i.e. even K-Mart knows what a shaky free throw shooter J.R. is.
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by Andrew Feinstein on Jan 6, 2010 7:58 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
Things not caught on TV...
Interesting comment about K-Mart at the end of the game, Altitude must have known to turn the cameras away from Kenyon.
Nate said it right; it was a foul (albeit very minor) and is rarely ever called at the end of the game. In an 82-game season these games will happen, both ways. Nuggets should feel fortunate that they won this one.
I really hope Ty Lawson is able to come back quickly (the power of youth). It looked like he tweaked his ankle pretty good. Who’s our 4th string PG?
I don’t understand why Melo and Bird were not at the game? I thought that was a mandate from the NBA?
Last point…have to give Karl credit for calling a timeout with 1.4 seconds left after winning the jump ball.
by CSprings_Tommy on Jan 6, 2010 8:35 AM MST up reply actions
Was a good call by Karl, otherwise we're looking at a J.R. Smith halfcourt heave ...
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I forgot to mention one more thing!...
When Karl (smartly) called that timeout and the ref blew the whistle indicating as such, J.R. erupted because he thought it was a foul call on him. J.R. threw a tantrum, grabbed the ball and ran to the other side of the court. K-Mart had to calm him down, restrain him and explain that it was just a timeout call. For those of us who have long questioned J.R.’s “smarts,” this was not one of his finer moments…
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by Andrew Feinstein on Jan 6, 2010 9:12 AM MST up reply actions
Had he got a technical there ...
Good point.
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Smarts?
It was the method that the referee used to demonstrate the call not JR’s intelligence! The ref made a clear offensive foul gesture (one arm with pointed finger pointing in the opposite direction while also moving in that direction) instead of whistling, stopping and denoting the TYPE of timeout called and THEN pointing in the direction of the time-out. JR made the same assumption that everyone watching on television did. He found out later than we all did that it was a timeout because of his tantrum but his confusion was initially caused by the referee’s overly demonstrative and incorrect physical gesture.
I think JR can be a dumbfuck but I hate for him to get a bad rap on this one when it was the idiot ref forgetting how to make a time-out call.
Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
Ty Lawson's pass ...
Andy, the pass by Lawson where he hurt his ankle:
I think it happened because Ty was planning on shooting the ball, but came down on that ankle on the ensuing drive and just lost control of what he wanted to do and lost the ball before he crumpled to the ground. I think the injury effected the outcome there.
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i was wondering why melo hasnt been on the bench either.
other than that, i hope joey graham is playing himself into the rotation once we get all of our starters back. at least 12-15 minutes a game. i wouldnt mind us starting JR Smith now, and having Ty, AA and Graham coming off the bench. they seem to play well together.
front court rotation
have a 2 player rotation at center with andersen and nene, use a 3 player rotation at both forward spots- melo, kmart and graham. sub joey for kmart with 2 minutes left in the 1st quarter. put kmart back in at the 10 minute mark of the second quarter and take melo out for 4 minutes. graham plays a total of 8 minutes. take 4 minutes each off the total time for melo and kmart. the 2nd half denver can go back to a 3 player rotation at center-power forward and an 8 player rotation with the 3 guard offense.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
Lower leg and knee injuries
Players are almost always given the choice to stay straight legged and zero impact in the locker room when rehabing lower leg and knee injuries rather than sitting uncomfortably on the bench. If I were as big as Bird or nursing a hard tissue (bone) injury like Melo, sitting on a folding chair is the last place I’d be if I actually wanted to recover quickly.
Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
Jeez, KMart
Dude curses worse than a truck-driver. I wonder if he can say anthing without using mutherfuck*r or sh*t in the sentence. And he thought Cuban was being rude.
by GoldenNugget on Jan 6, 2010 11:59 PM MST up reply actions
I added in the body above about the Foul or Non-Foul ... give it a read.
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That was an ugly game
and as Nuggets fans I’m sure we all can relate to how the W’s fans feel about how it ended. We’ve certainly been there. And at the end of the day you just have to admit that allowing a game to get to that point is putting fate in the hands of others. Had the W’s made their free throws, it never even happens. Again, I think we’ve been down that road enough times.
I have been bashing Joey Graham and was happy to see him play a solid game. Hopefully this will translate when he is playing against real starters for real teams.
I also wanted to note that Ronnie Turiaf was the first guy to go and check on Ty when he went down. I thought that was righteous.
by My3Cents on Jan 6, 2010 9:06 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Didn't know
that was Turiaf but could tell it was a Dub. I like seeing that kind of sportsmanship in the game that I love.
I noticed it was a Dub too, but didn’t know it was Turiaf. Yes you have to give the guy credit for that. Most professional sports guys know that the guy on the other team may be your teammate tomorrow and there’s nothing personal about it. There are a few however…
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
I always like some hatred on the floor, but when injuries happen it's good to see folks come together.
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 6, 2010 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
Well not so much hatred as sprited rivalry and yes, when people get hurt nobody wants to see that. I I think we showed some sympathy for Greg Oden around here didn’t we?
It’s always better to say “We beat your team at full strength.” than to say “We could only beat your team when all your best players were out with injuries.”
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
by Thursty on Jan 6, 2010 12:34 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
ya as heated as some players get
almost all of the help eachother out… example, remember in a lakers/nuggets game, both teams hate eachother but despite that artest and melo go down and they help eachother up
Melo
Yes, we were joking around at the game wondering if when Melo returns to action if he will still sit on the bench with his teammates when he is not in the game or if he’ll just go to the locker room until Karl is ready to put him back in the game.
We did see Melo was at both of the games, but he stayed in the locker room for both games. Nuggets PR claims he was working out, but I think it would be better for Melo to be on the bench supporting his team.
OK, I wrote above why that foul on JR was a foul. Aside from that, the play by Ellis was just stupid. He had JR rushed and taking a slightly off balance shot to begin with, he didn’t need to play him that close. He should have known that JR wasn’t going to make that shot.
The non-call on Ellis tapping the ball to himself was the correct call. The rules concerning control and possesion of the ball make accomodation for a player fumbling a pass or loose ball while running, so that is not a travel. You see the same thing when a player taps a rebound to himself. It’s legal.
Marlowe had two glaring examples of what an idiot he is. He couldn’t figure out what happened to Maggette’s headband until he figured out he was looking at Devean George. On a play with one second left on the shot clock the ball went to Afflalo and was knocked out of bounds. The official clearly signaled Nuggets ball out of bounds and then a time out was called. The idiot Marlowe yelled enthusiastically “there may be a foul on the play!” . They immediately went to commercial, leaving anyone who listens to Marlowe wondering what the call was and expecting free throws coming back from the time out. When they come back, Marlowe doesn’t correct himself or anything, just acts like he never said anything and the Nuggets score on a sweet inbounds to KMart making a twisting shot in the air. If any of you did such a lousy job on your job, you’d be fired.
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
I forgot about those Marlowe plays in my post, but wanted to mention them.
I thought the Devean George mix-up was pretty hilarious. George looks nothing like Maggs so I just sort of laughed along with Hastings and the mix-up. Happens in football all the time, but in basketball you’d think it’d be slightly easier since you are sitting right on top of the action and not up in a box and well you know … the players are CLEARLY visible. I did like his recovery saying he needed to put his glasses on. It’s always funny when Hastings isn’t the goofiest guy on air.
The other call on the Afflalo out of bounds play that led to K-Mart’s pretty re-directed jumper: Hastings said just before the broadcast cut to commercial that referee Jason Phillips (I think it was him) would never give a foul there … it was said more as a slight to Phillips than it was a criticism of Marlowe I thought. But yes, you could clearly see the ref signal it was out of bounds and Nuggets ball.
Anybody hear after Bird’s block the other night against the Jazz when Marlowe said it was a block right out of yesteryear of volleyball great Karch Kiraly? Hastings didn’t even give that reference any play. I wonder how long Marlowe’s contract is for? I like the guy, but he is not your typical basketball play-by-play man.
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 6, 2010 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
The AC
Can I just say how I love how anything bad is referred to as the “AC of….”
I’ve actually started to use this in real life. The dinner my wife made last night (tofu something) was the “AC of dinners”. She was not happy and referred to me as the “AC of husbands” as I ignored her and watched the “AC of basketball” play as the “AC of play-by-play men” spewed about phantom fouls.
ac has been playing decent lately though
and he made some clutch free throws last night, in addition to the steal.
0 turnovers last night in 21 minutes ...
Like I mention in the post … I’m not a big A.C. fan, but he didn’t hurt Denver with turnovers against Dubs.
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Let it be known
AC is OK with me. I don’t blame him for the Nugs issues. He is a pretty good role player and third PG.
But, I will still use “the AC of….” at every opportunity because it brings me joy.
by Pusherman on Jan 6, 2010 6:01 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm definatly going to start using that
I dont’ even care if people don’t get, because those who do will likely find great joy in it.
by GoldenNugget on Jan 7, 2010 12:09 AM MST up reply actions
Lets take it another step
Instead of saying “you fucked up” one could say “you did an AC”?
It’s his job to keep track of who is on the court, particularly when coming back from a time out. The networks have a display come up to let you know, you would think that Marlowe should be letting us know about line-up changes, but obviously he isn’t paying attention. I doubt the network guys lose track of aho’s in the game, but we wouldn’t know because they are always yakking it up about something completely unrelated to the gaem in front of them.
Hastings saying that they wouldn’t get that call makes me think that Hastings didn’t know what the call was either, but I doubt that. He was probably trying to gently redirect Marlowe.
Marlowe is just flat out an idiot who is incompetent at his job and always has been.
Saying he is the AC of play by play men is complimenting him, he isn’t even that good.
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
Ya, whenever the game come back from TV timeouts I quickly scan the floor to see who is still on the court. I’d like to think I do a pretty decent job … and it’s unrelated b/c I don’t have Marlowe’s access, but I was confused as to who the hell Devean George was last night.
I knew he was on the team, but that was only the third time he stepped on the floor all season. He looked like he took a pre-game shower in cement last night too. (Simmons reference.)
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"comes back from TV" not "come back from TV"
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you guys are spoiled
marlow is nothing compared to the chicago cubs broadcaster the late harry cary. i was lucky to hear harry do a bulls exibition game one time. rebound bob love, passes out to bob love. bob love dribbles over the half court line and passes to bob love. bob love drives by bob love and scores! holy cow bob love is all over the court! harry even called jerry sloan and players from the other team as bob love.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
Hey - if the moon were made of cheese would you eat it?
I would.
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white sox back in the 1970's
had harry cary and jimmy pierssall. jimmy wrote a book called fear strikes out. it was later made into a movie. anthony perkins starred. he was the same actor that starred in alfred hitchcock’s movie psycho. they were very entertaining the white sox were lousy. the white sox are the only team to forfeit a game in modern baseball history. there was a promotion between games of a double header. if you brought a disco record to the ball park between games they would take all the dico records and blow them up. disco music was taking over the world and chicago was at the forefront of the disco sucks movement. when the disco records were blown up thousands of sox fans went on the field and started tossing the records like frisbees. when the fans refused to leave the field and quit launching disco records the chicago police began to tear gas the field. between the broken disco records, tear gas and rowdy fans the game was called. and you guys think rocky the mascot is entertaining.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
LOL!
You stole my line! That’ is the funniest impression I may have ever seen. So everyone else gets what we’re talking about here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haAhdtDmsOw
Best. Comedian. Ever. Period.
by GoldenNugget on Jan 7, 2010 12:13 AM MST up reply actions
My buddy Jason dressed up as him for Halloween (Will Ferrell version)...
It was dead on and he never broke character. It was insane!
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 7, 2010 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
Question
Ok, so me and my roomies got into a huge argument last night after this shot, by, i can’t remember who. But anyways, the shot clock was winding down and someone on the Dubs hoisted up a j that left their hand just in time yet it then hit the backboard and banked off the rim. I screamed “shot clock violation” while my other roomate screamed “your an idiot, it hit the rim”. My argument was that it hit the backboard first, and at that moment the violation should have been called, but he was saying that it then hit the rim and the violation doesn’t count until it hits (or doesn’t) hit the rim. Anyway, I think he’s right, it’s just it was such a bad shot that I guess I didn’t want it to count. Ok, I’ll stop rambling now.
by GoldenNugget on Jan 7, 2010 12:30 AM MST up reply actions
Your roommate is correct. So long as another player doesn't touch it and it hits the backboard and then rim ... it's ok.
See it all the time.
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 7, 2010 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
Whatever
Hey, the warriors got screwed last night. The backcourt no-call on JR Smith. The warriors calling a timeout when Maggette was on the floor. How did JR Smith get off a shot in under a second. The foul-call was 40 f-ing feet from the basket.
However, George Karl said it best…“you don’t always win the game perfectly, or right, but it’s a win”
Truer words have never been spoken by the man.
The Warriors got screwed last night. The Nuggets will get screwed in a game against the lakers. Kobe will go to the line like 40 times. In sum, NBA officiating is garbage.
It’s all good. Nuggets have a good team. As a Warriors fan, I wish your team luck this year. I like the way your team plays. I wish we had Billups on our team : )
Peace
nice sportsmanship right there.
Good luck to you Warriors too, I also like the good looking basketball you guys play
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Jan 6, 2010 1:48 PM MST up reply actions
he got it off in exactly one second
That isn’t impossible…next game vs the Lakers, Kobe might go to the line 40 times, but Afflalo will force him into a 1-25 FG shooting night, thus eliminating any impact the 40 FT might have.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Denver Gets Lucky
On what was supposed to be the last play — the one that Karl drew up in one of the final time outs — J.R. gets hung up and dishes it to Joey Graham for a three????
WTF, Karl?
Play probably broke down or Karl didn't design anything
I’m thinking the latter.
Swats.
by Colin Neilson on Jan 6, 2010 1:17 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe he was drawing pictures
Maybe pictures of the Panda sexual harassment thing
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
JK
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Does JR feel the same way about GK?
(JR’s, Sister’s twitter)StefanieLinette: The Denver Nuggets need a new coach ASAP
@StefanieLinette You dont like Coach Karl?… 6:28 PM Jan 3rd
@afea18 hell no. I can’t stand his bitch ass 6:33 PM Jan 3rd reply to afea18
@StefanieLinette I dont know why he wont start JR 6:48 PM Jan 3rd
@afea18 me either 6:55 PM Jan 3rd reply to afea18
by BlueDane on Jan 6, 2010 2:11 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
HAHA Love the "love" for GK
JR don’t need to start if he gets half of AC’s minutes. 30 mpg should satisfy JR, as he’d get the same amount starting.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
She's not a Smith
Obviously someone that smart couldn’t be JRs blood related sister.
by GoldenNugget on Jan 7, 2010 12:33 AM MST up reply actions
What a fun game to attend(although not for my heart)
my friend got a great deal through his school(UCCS) which gave us 25 dollar seats in the lower sections and we got to hit the court after the game. All I can say to Warriors fans is that your team just allowed an AC led team that was down by 4 with 4 left to come back, that is all on them. After the game we waited to get on court and some of the students yelled hey to Hastings and he gladly came over and said high and gave one kid a high five, he seems like a damn cool guy.
March 14, 2010: The great one returns!
That's pretty sweet you got that ticket deal.
Also like hearing stories of encounters with players, coaches, announcers …
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this lil break should be good
with melo/billups/birdman out (now add lawson and nene) our players seem exhausted because karl wont play petro or balkman…
its important that guys like JR, Kmart, and nene get rest
what a fun/nerve racking game to watch btw
I'm a little worried about Lawson ...
guy’s best strength is driving to the hoop in heavy traffic … not always an easy task for ankles.
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That twisted ankle was pretty nasty
How long is he out?
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Warriors fans should be embarrassed
Their team was up 5 with 1:30 to play on a team with Joey Graham and Anthony Carter on the floor. That game shouldn’t have come down to a last second call.
The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.
by free7694 on Jan 6, 2010 3:17 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Hmm...we gonna see AC for 40 min unless Chauncey plays
Line: 8 pts, 10 asts, 11 TO
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Warriors got what they deserved
attempting to block a 35 ft “chuck” is just stupid. Be it a foul, block or whatever one thing is for certain… it was bad defense and the warriors lost because of it.

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