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The state of our union is strong... (Nuggets/Rockets recap)

76464_nuggets_rockets_basketball_medium_mediumWhile Democrats and Republicans squabble over the future direction of the United States, Nuggets Nation is as strong as ever.

Star-divide

No Melo.  No problem.

As noted in my game preview, I suspected that tonight's victory over the Rockets would be the most winnable game of the Nuggets current three-game road trip.  What I didn't foresee was the Nuggets turning a major first quarter deficit into a fourth quarter walkover win, thanks to combination of stingy defense and smart shot selection.

For the second season in a row, the Nuggets are playing elite basketball consistently, are overcoming adversity and are doing it late into the season.  Just when we thought J.R. Smith might be a distraction thanks to rumors of a team suspension earlier this week followed up by rumors of a summons to be served in Houston, J.R. put up his best performance in a month.  And on a night that the Nuggets had every excuse to mail it in (on the road and missing their best player) after finding themselves in a 31-16 hole after the first quarter, they dug deep and pulled off their first victory at Houston in three years.

If Chauncey Billups isn't included on the list of reserves for the All-Star Game to be announced tomorrow night, this will be nothing short of a travesty.  In games without Carmelo Anthony but with Billups, the Nuggets improved to 3-1 including wins over Cleveland, Charlotte (a game in which Kenyon Martin was ejected early) and now at Houston.  And overall without Melo, the Nuggets are a more-than-respectable 5-2.  How many other teams would fare that well missing its best player for seven games?  

Winners of eight straight and 11 of 13 (note that the Nuggets two losses were by a combined five points...wow),  there are plenty of accolades to go around in Nuggets Nation, starting with head coach George Karl who clearly understands the pulse of his team right now and seems to be pulling the right strings.  Whether or not deciding not to suspend J.R. was Karl's final call, we'll never know.  But if J.R. continues to play at or near the level we saw tonight, it will prove to be a very smart decision (better to let J.R. take his lumps in the press and from bloggers like me rather than from the organization and the coach).  

Next in line for props from the fans has to be Billups and Kenyon Martin, the veteran leaders who have kept this team afloat in Melo's absence and did so yet again tonight.  In an interview I did on AM 1510 Mile High Sports Radio a few weeks ago, I scoffed at the suggestion that K-Mart deserved All-Star consideration.  Seeing how well K-Mart continues to play, this may not be such a far fetched idea anymore.

Remarkably, the Nuggets are finding ways to win even when they're falling woefully short in key categories.  For example, in tonight's game the Nuggets dished out a mere seven assists as a team - seven! - which is a Nuggets franchise record for the fewest assists in a victory.  And on top of the low assist number, the Nuggets couldn't shoot straight from three-point range, making just 23.5% of their attempts behind the arc.  But they made up for those shortcomings by being aggressive offensively, taking it to the rack and getting to the free throw line 39 times to the Rockets 19.

Simply put, the state of Nuggets Nation hasn't been this strong since the mid 1980s.  

Non-Stiff of the Night

-J.R. Smith: Adamant supporters of J.R. have been calling me out in the comments for being too harsh on J.R.  I stand by everything I've said about J.R. all season, but to prove that I don't have a vendetta against him (because, of course, I don't) he gets our Non-Stiff of the Night Award.  Even though he made just three of his eight three-point attempts, he made two of his last three attempts, including back-to-back three's to help blow the game open midway through the fourth quarter.  Moreover, J.R. seemed to take good shots tonight, something we need to see more of.

Stiffs of the Night

-Shane Battier and Chase Budinger: This Rockets duo combined to shoot 2-12 from the field and were flop-city on defense all night.  Seeing Battier and Budinger flounder against the more athletic Nuggets was further proof of why the Rockets have no prayer of making any noise in the postseason this year...if they even get that far.

Opposition's Take: The Dream Shake

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Really Andrew?

I was actually kind of offended by your piece the other day about getting rid of JR…
You seem to be a strong proponent of getting rid of him and the way you phrased the reckless driving incident was something that I took umbridge with. This is a 24 year old KID we’re talking about. In that accident his best friend was killed. Has something like that ever happened to you? And if so, did the entire country know about it?
I guess, all I can say is, that at a certain point we, as fans, have to understand that the team and players we root for are PEOPLE. throwing JR under the bus because of circumstances that we read/hear about and don’t have all the details nor the personal relationships to FULLY make a rational suggestion towards a solution is, well, IRRATIONAL.
As a person, basketball aside, the WORST thong that could happen to JR is to be traded. At least right now. What does it say? It says, “you have problems, and although your talent is immense, we just can’t spend the time dealing with your immature sulking because your upset about your performance…grow ip faster!”
my solution is to give him less money. Make the guy work on his game by reducing payment/minutes. NOT passing the buck.
Yeah, I get it. This is a game that is all about winning. But in the end, isn’t it ok to care about players who actually need some LIFE help?
Otherwise, let’s just go buy a team. I know! Let’s get, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Kobe, and Shaq on a team…OR let’s buy Garnett and Ray Allen to play with Pierce!
JR Smith frustrates the shit out of me at times. But he is part of this team. And personally I wanna see him help us win.
Kind of like tonite.

by SternfluffsKobe on Jan 28, 2010 12:31 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

I agree, although I don't know where the rant came from

I didn’t hear anything in Andrew’s comments that would have triggered that, but hey, good rant. The only thing I can say is that JR’s troubles seem to be never ending, and time after time when we think he has taken a step forward he surprises us with one backwards. I know where you are coming from Stern, but there HAS to be a line drawn at some point in time, otherwise JR will continue on the same road he has been on forever.

by GoldenNugget on Jan 28, 2010 2:09 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah...

I CLEARLY had had a couple when I wrote that but when I re read it this morning, it’s actually pretty good!
I agree there has to be a line drawn. I guess I just fear a “Maurice Clarett” type of deal unfolding…
I guess my threshold for tolerance is pretty high, maybe ridiculously so…

by SternfluffsKobe on Jan 28, 2010 12:42 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Using a word like umbrage would be a lot more effective if you knew how to spell it. Looks like you’re the same guy who misspelled umbrage on the DP comments.

When I was a kid, every time one of my father’s 5 kids spilled something at the supper table, he’d say “How old do they have be before we can get through a meal without a spill?” I have to ask, how old does JR have to be before he is accountable? Twenty four years old is hardly a child. How old does he have to be before we can expect that we won’t be hearing about JR didn’t pay his lawyer on a case where he punched somebody in a pick up game in Houston? How old before we don’t hear about his running off to the lockerroom to cry during a game? How old does Ty Lawson have to be before; Oh wait that’s…

By the way at one meal my mother spilled something and all five of us kids started in “How old do they…” That didn’t go over very well.

"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson

by Thursty on Jan 28, 2010 8:35 AM MST up reply actions  

wow...so you're going to pick on someone because he quite just made a typo

maybe he actually does know how to spell..

Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card

Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

just like I did.

*quite possibly

Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card

Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

LOL

It does get really old

by Gasus on Jan 28, 2010 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah criticizing someone's spelling is the ad hominem of the net

It’s just a bad way to try and make an argument. If you disagree with someone, say why. It’s too bad you can’t raise your voice on the internet because that’s the REAL way you win an argument. Just ask Bill O’Rielly.

by GoldenNugget on Jan 28, 2010 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

HEY BUDY Learn to spell O'Rielly

its O’Reilly :)

Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card

Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

it's refreshing to learn

that your whole family is annoying and uptight and not just you

by NugNugz on Jan 28, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

rec-worthy

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

The exact same thing you posted here was posted under Kiszla’s column with the name Nayef A. So who are you taking umbrage with; Feinstein or Kiszla?

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_14283055

Of course you jump on the spelling issue, but who were you trying to impress using the word you couldn’t spell in the first place? You also have ignored the issue I raised: How old does JR have to get? You say he’s only 24, as if it was the same as only 16. It isn’t. He’s old enough to vote, drink alcohol, smoke, serve in the military, get married without parental consent, hold public office etc. The expectation for a 24 year old is that they have some accountability and you don’t seem to want to hold him accountable for anything. It’s as if you are hellbent on perpetuating the stereotype of the spoiled athlete. For myself and plenty of other people out there, I haven’t done as many irresponsible things in my life as JR has done in his time in the NBA and I’m more than twice as old as JR.

For the pack jumping on the spelling issue, “umbridge” wasn’t a typo. It was an attempt to impress us (and the Denver post readers) with vocabulary that failed miserably because it was misspelled. Many who have been howling about the spelling issue sound like a bunch of kids proclaiming that you’re uneducated and proud of it, but people should respect what you have to say anyway. I don’t mention any names because you know who you are.

"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson

by Thursty on Jan 28, 2010 3:03 PM MST up reply actions  

WOW!!!

Thanks for the life lesson DAD or MOM!! I doubt this person was trying to impress anyone. And even if it was misspelled why are you being such a jerk about it. We all knew what was meant by the word.

And who cares if this person posted in DP?

Also, coming to the aid of one who is being maligned over something pretty small does not mean we are all children or uneducated.

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 3:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Who goes around policing spelling on blogs?

Pretty god damned immature if you ask me. Most people post fast so you will get many typos. I don’t know about you but I’m not about to run every one of my posts through spellcheck.

by Gasus on Jan 28, 2010 3:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Ok ok

First of all: I didn’t post anything on DP, and If I had why would I not want anyone to know? Secondly, you’re 100% right, I totally misspelled umbrage. As to who I am taking it with? Well, both I guess. Although I haven’t read the DP article but if it is similar to Andrews then, yeah. I take umbrage…er, issue with it.
As to the ACTUAL subject of my comment: as I said to Goldennugget, the line DOES need to be drawn somewhere, but my tolerance isn’t used up yet. That’s all.
His BEST FRIEND died because of his wreckless driving. That ever happened to you? Has it been made public? The Kid has some demons and throwing him to another team to “deal” with just seems like passing the buck. All I’m saying is, this sport, and others, has a human element and it sounds like some think JR is as developed as he’s gonna get. I just disagree.
As far as wanting to sound smart? I think I’ve proved to everyone here that “smart” isn’t a word I really care to be known for…passionate? Yes. Smart? Eh…

by SternfluffsKobe on Jan 28, 2010 4:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I think we all care about how smart we come across!

Maybe I should only speak for myself though…

Either way, I’ll take passionate, optimistic and LOYAL fans over skeptical, pessimistic and dismissive fans every day of the week!

SternFluffsKobe: Keep it up! Call it like you see it and spell it however you like…

Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.

by Big Mickey D on Jan 28, 2010 5:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey!

You can still be passionate and loyal as well as skeptical. Not everyone is riding the Happy Train to Pleasure Town all the time.

by GoldenNugget on Jan 28, 2010 5:55 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn’t mean that there are only two kinds of Nuggets fans – just which end of the spectrum I prefer to land on. These guys (JR too) just went to the WCF and are perfectly poised to do it again. Seems like we ought to be bashing the Lakers et al., NOT our Nuggets. Just sayin.

Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.

by Big Mickey D on Jan 28, 2010 7:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess I should have rephrased it

I don’t think any one of us cares about appearing smarter than other commenters

Also I agree with GoldenNugget, we all have a little skeptic inside us

by Uh on Jan 28, 2010 6:04 PM MST up reply actions  

I care about being funnier ! :P

which ironically means I’m quite often not smart….

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 6:16 PM MST up reply actions  

First of all: I didn’t post anything on DP

Well then if I were you I’d wonder who was copying what you post here and re-posting it to the DP comments. What was posted on the DP comments was exactly what you posted here, not just similar, but exactly the same. If somebody copied your stuff to post on the DP comments you might want to take umbrage with that and report it to the DP. According to the posting times your stuff was posted here roughly 5 hours before the comment on the DP.

As to the ACTUAL subject of my comment: as I said to Goldennugget, the line DOES need to be drawn somewhere, but my tolerance isn’t used up yet. That’s all.

I don’t know if my tolerance is used up yet or not, but people have been saying that he needs to grow up for years now. My patience is about used up. What do you think was the point of running off to the lockerroom with a game going on was about? A tantrum? Going to go cry like a baby? What? It certainly wasn’t grown up behavior. How old does he have to get before he grows out of it? I have yet to see any growth from him. I also haven’t seen that sort of behavior from younger players, such as Ty Lawson.

His BEST FRIEND died because of his wreckless driving. That ever happened to you? Has it been made public?

No that never happened to me because by the time I got a driver’s license I knew something about responsibility and accountability, just the same way the vast majority of us did. You state this as if it is to his credit instead of his shame, or as if that somehow excuses him. The problem goes deeper than what happened after the death of his friend. You need to look at what happened before that too.

The Kid has some demons

What demons? From everything I’ve ever read about him, he had all the breaks in life, growing up in a stable middle class family with talent to burn. How does that load him up with demons that ordinary responsible citizens haven’t got?

throwing him to another team to "deal" with just seems like passing the buck.

So the Nuggets or the NBA owe him something beyond his paycheck? Just how far does their responsibility to him go when he isn’t holding up his end of the deal? For an employer to ask an employee to stay out of trouble with the law, show up for work, follow the directions of his supervisor and show some conscientious effort to do the job doesn’t seem like too much to ask.
As far as trading JR you have to wonder if other teams would actually want him, but trading him should be a basketball decision just as all trades should be. If trading JR can make this team better, then he should be traded, if not then he shouldn’t and that applies to every player in the NBA.

All I’m saying is, this sport, and others, has a human element and it sounds like some think JR is as developed as he’s gonna get. I just disagree.

On what basis do you disagree? I thought there was going to be some improvement in JR’s development this year, but it’s the same old stuff. What evidence do you have that JR is going to develop more; that the rest of us don’t know about?
All I want from JR is that he helps the Nuggets win basketball games and doesn’t behave in a way that is detrimental to the team. If that means he scores 2 points per game or 40 points per game I don’t care as long as he helps his team to win games. Obviously that’s not where his mind is (insert Cool Hand Luke movie quote here). His mind is on JR and that’s about it. If JR helped his team to win, but only scored 2 points per game, he’d be in the lockerroom throwing a tantrum about how many touches he got as far as I can tell.

As far as wanting to sound smart?

If you go back through what I wrote you’ll find I never accused you of wanting to sound smart, in fact this is the first time I’ve used the word “smart” in this thread.

"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson

by Thursty on Jan 28, 2010 9:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh boy...sigh...

Alright, I guess I HAVE to respond: I’m a little confused by the aggression and vehemence of your latest reply/comment above. First, dissecting a comment that I made in order to completely pull apart what you seem to think is some sort of attack on your stance, or my stance on the whole JR issue is a little frightening. Second, I like JR. sorry. I do. I feel like he’s made a ton of really stupid mistakes. But if we base trades off of stupidity and conduct detrimental(sp) to the team? then our
team would consist of Chauncey and AC…and maybe Petro…although who knows what kinds of shit he got into as a boy in France!!! (meant as a joke. But I’m aware your desire is a serious response so I diggress (sp))
Thirdly: show me one game that JR LOST for us and I’ll give you FIVE he’s won.
Fourth: i actually still believe that 24 is young. I don’t care if responsibility has been thrust on him based on raw talent. He’s a kid. I’m sorry that you were reduced to the 18 year olds can be in the military argument. It just doesn’t convince me that this organization takes a KID who CLEARLY has psychological issues REGARDLESS of his middle-class upbringing and passes the buck. You clearly disagree, but the problem with YOUR argument, is that this is how I FEEL. you can’t change that. Sorry.
Fifth: I AM concerned that someone stole my words and posted them elsewhere! Especially considering that they’re so ridiculous.
And lastly; most importantly: seriously. Stop being a prick.

by SternfluffsKobe on Jan 28, 2010 11:00 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

It would be a stupid basketball decision to let go of JR

If he is on, there isn’t 1 team in the NBA that can beat the Nugs. I’ll take all the emotional bullshit he is going through if the Nugs can get him back to being the most dangerous 6th man in the game.

You made a good point with JR not loosing games for the Nugs. Karl seems to have a really good feel for JR’s playing time. He rides the JR train when JR is playing well and replaces him when he isn’t. I love the Nugs now and I am getting really tired of people saying the Nugs should trade rotation guys during and 8 game winning streak. Man, the Nugs could win every game and there would be guys out there calling for certain players heads!

by Gasus on Jan 29, 2010 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

man you make it sound like you’ve never done anything wrong in your life. I can’t say that I’ve ever had a friend die in a reckless driving accident with which i was largely responsible, but I can say that I’ve fucked around enough in life to know that had something gone even the slightest bit awry, i could’ve been in jail or at least in serious trouble. If you mean to tell me that you’ve never done something in life that was a little illegal then I think more than anything else I just feel sorry for you.

It astounds me that by the time you were 16 you were this law-abiding model citizen walking eldery women across the street and carrying their bags of grocery too. You’re perfect Thursty, just a perfect citizen. This weekend I’d like for you to go buy yourself a medal and pin it right on yourself. Then I want you to run for president in the next election because you’re moral code is so fantastic that you’d win in a landslide.

by NugNugz on Jan 29, 2010 8:21 AM MST up reply actions  

rocky balboa

this game reminded me of the fight scene in any rocky movie. early rounds rocky gets the crap knocked out of him. middle rounds rocky rallies and beats the snot out of his opponent. the late rounds it becomes survival of the fittest. kenyon martin continues to walk the walk. whether it is continuing his hit parade of double doubles or PUTTING $35,000.00 OF HIS OWN MONEY WHERE HIS MOUTH IS TO STICK UP FOR A TEAMMATE. nice to see urkel smith take his second baby step to rehabbing his reputation and commitment to his team, franchise and the nuggets fans. he still has a long way to go making things right. afflalo struggled shooting from the field. he still found other ways to contribute when things did not go his way on offense with 6 rebounds. chris andersen stepped up with 8 rebounds and went 5 for 6 from the free throw line. nene was a force on offense down low with 18 points and opened things up for his teammates on the perimeter.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Jan 28, 2010 1:18 AM MST reply actions  

Great post!

Do you actually care about anything other than stats and contacts?
You’re waaaaay smarter than I am about that stuff, but man, is there any EMOTIONAL stakes?

by SternfluffsKobe on Jan 28, 2010 1:25 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I think you had to be there

It was from like 3 weeks ago, after JR went like 2-17 or something crazy and it was suggested that he wear glasses.

by Joelsopinion on Jan 28, 2010 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Joels' is correct.

I made a comment that I had seen JR with glasses on during an interview and he looked like a professor and it morphed into Urkel Smith

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 11:43 AM MST up reply actions  

earl smith III

urkel sounds a little like earl. at the start of the season smith wanted to be called earl instead of j r. the character steve urkel from the tv show family matters reminds me of smith. well intended bumbling goofball, he constantly screws up only to become the hero and save the day at the end.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Jan 28, 2010 3:05 PM MST up reply actions  

JR Urkel!! when is the hero of the game

so far we have
JR Urkel
JR Swish
JR Knucklehead…at least those are mine

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 3:09 PM MST up reply actions  

i've got your +/- rating right here buddy

kenyon martin shoots 6 of 12 field goals for 12 points, grabs 15 rebounds, blocks 2 shots, has a steal and is rated MINUS 18. go figure. i will take that -18 anytime.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Jan 28, 2010 1:26 AM MST reply actions  

Aside from that...

We won right? Eight in a row? With all the JR drama, AND injuries to some of our guys? Stats DONT MEAN SHIT IN THIS SPORT. it happens in the moment and SADLY, whether or not a ref decides to deem something a foul or not….
I hope the good nuggets energy keeps going..by the by, what was “spellcheck”/AAA/alphabet/the Duracell/etc…‘s stats tonite?
We won. And it had nothing to do with stats. NOTHING. +/- doesn’t mean shit. Sorry. I love you stat guys though….

GO NUGGETS!!!

by SternfluffsKobe on Jan 28, 2010 1:58 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Well, he was in the game in the first quarter

and sat out most of the 2nd quarter. K-Mart did shoot his patented outside brick a couple of times in the first (along with the rest of the team), so there’s your plus/minus.

by margabelle on Jan 28, 2010 7:11 AM MST up reply actions  

His +/- was probably skewed by the score in the first quarter.

"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson

by Thursty on Jan 28, 2010 8:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Awesome game tonight

This is the Nuggets team I love. Hard working, team effort, and one of the best on the defensive end of the floor. I don’t know what the absence of Melo has to do with the style of play, but I pray to God that when he gets back the defensive effort remains the same. THAT is what’s going to get us past the Lakers this year. Not Melo, nor Chuancey or JR’s hot shooting, defense. End of story. Stil gotta say I am more excited than I have ever been before about the Nuggets. The possibility of beating the Lakers seems to be shaping into a reality with every game we play.

by GoldenNugget on Jan 28, 2010 2:15 AM MST reply actions  

I think with Melo

Teams WANT to get into a shooting match because they know we’ll fire back. Melo is like Doc Holiday and every hot hand in the west wants to test him out. So our team ends up wanting to shoot their way out of the gym instead of buckle down on D and get it done the gritty way.

by Joelsopinion on Jan 28, 2010 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

I like that Doc Holiday analogy.

Good stuff.

Denver Stiffs.com: Defending the sovereignty of Nuggets Nation.

by Nate Timmons on Jan 28, 2010 10:09 AM MST up reply actions  

Why Kobe Bryant, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

That’s what Melo’s gonna be sayin in the WCFs after we beat them down.

by GoldenNugget on Jan 28, 2010 11:05 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't like the Doc Holliday analogy

He died young of consumption, with his boots off, in bed :(

Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card

Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 11:08 AM MST up reply actions  

You make it sound so shady

Who wouldn’t want to go out with their boots off in bed, sounds like a hell of a toboggan ride.

by Joelsopinion on Jan 28, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

well for a gunslinger who would have preferred

to die in a shootout, its kinda of a sad ending :(

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't like the way this started out at all

Seemed line the Nugz weren’t ready to play. But when they snapped into gear it was a thing of beauty. I think what people are missing is JR played some good defense tonight. I was nice to see that steal on the lob from Skola on toward the end of the game.

Im starting to think this team is very close. Friends almost. They seem to stick up for each other and circle the wagons very well. I’m liking this

GO NUGGETS!! Ladies and Gents meet the hottest team in the NBA!

"Groovy" Ash from Evil Dead 2

"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple

by jpage78 on Jan 28, 2010 2:52 AM MST reply actions  

There really was a lack of energy and a gloominess to the team after Ariza stole ANOTHER inbound pass to end the first quarter and buried that bank shot … great bounce back win!

Denver Stiffs.com: Defending the sovereignty of Nuggets Nation.

by Nate Timmons on Jan 28, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

I think its good to let Melo rest

because he’s on more often than not. The rest of the team needs to figure they’re game out without him.
Now if only Melo could play team first ball upon his return we’d really be in business.

by InboundingLobPass on Jan 28, 2010 3:15 AM MST reply actions  

Good for Melo

But he’s not the only Nuggets in dire need of a rest…. if you guys know what I mean.

by Mini Hulk on Jan 28, 2010 3:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Repeating what I said from the end of the GDT about the assist total

You have to look at that assist total in context. There were handfuls of potentially assisted baskets negated by fouls. You don’t get an assist for making a pass that sends someone to the free throw line, and the Nuggets were at the line all night. In addition, one of the most effective offensive sets for the Nuggets tonight was getting Nene and K-Mart posted up against the smaller Rocket defenders and letting them go to work. All of the baskets they obtained in this fashion were unassisted, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t smart or effective offensive execution.

by snafu on Jan 28, 2010 3:42 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

From The Dream Shake's recap

“One of the surprising weaknesses of the Rockets’ has been isolation defense (i.e. guarding an opponent one-on-one). You’d figure that a team featuring great individual defenders such as Shane Battier, Chuck Hayes, and Ariza would thrive when an opposing team decided to go iso. That simply hasn’t been the case. The Rockets currently allow the fourth-least amount of assisted buckets per game, meaning that the isolation play is an opponent’s best friend. Last night was no different.”

So, yeah, the assist total isn’t that big a deal against the Rockets because they can’t play one on one defense.

by margabelle on Jan 28, 2010 7:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Athletic Teams vs the Rockets vs the rest of the West

Great point. And teams like the Nuggets take full advantage, as also witnessed by the Hawks vs Rockets prior to this game. The Nuggets simply had too many weapons and as the Rockets got hurt from foul trouble the more athletic team took over.

However, I take exception to this:
“Seeing Battier and Budinger flounder against the more athletic Nuggets was further proof of why the Rockets have no prayer of making any noise in the postseason this year…if they even get that far.”

Refer to last season where the Rockets took the Lakers 7 games with arguably a worse team on the floor than their current roster. The NBA is all about match-ups, and Rockets got taken to task last night. Against other teams like Portland and LA, Brooks and the quick guard can cause fits. I think the Nuggets have a great shot this year, but on the flip side of the victory is allowing 102 points per game and allowing a Rockets team who had no business stay in the game last night with a late run. If the Nuggets continue to play the kind of D their chances in the post season also don’t change much from last year. Hoping both teams step it up on D, with the Nuggets having a chance at the finals if they do.

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by crocktees on Jan 28, 2010 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Great point Snafu!

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by Nate Timmons on Jan 28, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, this is also what Jeremy said over at RMC
Denver was only credited with seven assists, which would lead you to believe they played a selfish, one-on-one game and somehow were able to get away with it. The reality is the Nuggets moved the ball pretty well as a team. If you want to know why their assist total was so shockingly paltry, I give you their 39 free throw attempts. A big reason why the Nuggets were able to earn that many free throws was because they were moving the ball and playing patient unselfish offense. By the way, three of those seven assists came from Chauncey in the four possession stretch we just outlined above.

by ParkHillNative on Jan 28, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

I think the Nuggs are still learning who they are...

Take AAA’s 24 points. I don’t think the team really expected that. I don’t think he expected that. it seems to me (and this is just an unscientific observation) that most teams have a formula that they rely upon. But now you have AAA coming on strong; Nene starting to get the ball; Lawson feeling as though he has the right to run the offense (to me he has seemed to be timid at times), etcetcetc…It looks like they are figuring out where all the pieces fit. AND I believe that they will have a hellofa mixture come playoff time.

by spokenwar on Jan 28, 2010 7:21 AM MST reply actions  

Blogroll suggestion

Jason Kosmiski’s Altitude page.

http://altitudesports.typepad.com/jason_kosmicki/

Hilarious story of AI and Melo on team bus in today’s post.

by margabelle on Jan 28, 2010 8:41 AM MST reply actions  

+1

I say it everytime JR comes through in a pinch for the Nuggets…Where are all of the haters now?

This team reminds me of the Rockies a few years back when they stormed through the playoffs. Every game we had a different hero. If Tulo wasn’t swinging the bat well we didn’t call for his head. The same with these Nuggets, when Alphabet Soup wasn’t shooting well JR stepped up. When Lawson seemed timid in NO and Chalotte AAA stepped up. When Melo & CB1 were out K-Mart came through. Just because JR isn’t the hero every single game doesn’t mean that we crucify him.

And I really appreciate the whole leave the past in past thing. That is the epidome of hypocricy. None of us have the worst moments of our lives shoved back in our face every time we’re not 100%.

by Joelsopinion on Jan 28, 2010 9:03 AM MST up reply actions  

We look at JR's history

Because you can use the past to help you understand why things are the way they are now. Time and again JR has been given opportunities to demonstrate that he’s improved his understanding of both the game of basketball and what it takes to be a champion and he still does the same stupid antics.

It’s easy to look at JR with rose-colored glasses and say “Hey, young, unlimited potential, could be a superstar” and just wave off his problems, but how long do you keep those glasses on? 3 years? 5? 10? How long will it take for JR to demonstrate the maturity and winning mentality it takes for a championship in the NBA, as Chauncey Billups, Carmelo Anthony, and even Ty Lawson have? Are you willing to give JR till he’s 30 until he finally “gets it”, even if that time could have been better used by another player?

I understand that we grow attached to the players who play for the Nuggets, particularly ones who have been as spectacular at times as JR has, but ultimately you must look at a player and ask if they are net contributors to the success of the team.

Swats.

by BeefySwats on Jan 28, 2010 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

In what ways has JR hindered this team?

Honestly aside from the first 7 games and being in action, has HE lost any games for us? Ummmm no. So why continually knock him is my point, and I think spokenwar’s too. The dude is going out there and he’s trying. Ask any coach and that’s all that they want out of their players is effort. Sometimes the shots fall, and sometimes they fall short, but he’s trying. Naldo obviously isn’t trying which is why he gets no minutes.

Back to my original point, it seems like you guys are upset at his lack of consistancy, and yes it’s frustrating at times. But he keeps trying. As long as he’s trying then I’ll continue to root for him.

by Joelsopinion on Jan 28, 2010 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

"... aside from the first 7 games" - that's a lot of games

not to mention the suspensions for the Knicks brawl and at the beginning of last season.

On the flip side, I think Nene’s ref complaining on non-calls while the opposing team scores a layup on a 5-4 break is more damaging than JRs 3 pointers. One of these days, we’ll lose a close game because of that behavior.

by margabelle on Jan 28, 2010 10:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Good points...

But why weren’t you bringing them up at the end of last season? They were valid then.

by spokenwar on Jan 28, 2010 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

rec'd

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by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

Well

For me personally, the reason I was frustrated with JR was because of his production, not because of his past. So in that sense, you were right. Hopefully JR will keep up the solid play we’ve seen the past 2 games and carry it all the way to June. If he does so, then it will be the ultimate test of whether or not he has matured enough to contribute every single game.

However, I disagree with

shut the fuck up unless you have something that might be helpful to say.

So…if we propose trading him, that’s not helpful to say? If we agree with suspending him a game, that’s not helpful to say? Are we only allowed to say positive things about him? Because that is what I am getting from your post.

If JR’s production falls off a cliff in the second half, then yeah, I will bring up trading him again. Or if he continues to act immature and not learn his lessons, then I will bring up possibly suspending him again. But here’s the thing: if JR does play well in the second half, then he probably won’t be pouting or acting up, will he? I was frustrated with JR for pouting/acting up because his teammate Chauncey is proof that you don’t have to pout/act up when you are playing badly.

by Uh on Jan 28, 2010 5:10 PM MST up reply actions  

+1 on the quote

I don’t know what the deal is but it seems like people here get really upset unless every damn word you say is encouragement to our players.

NOTE TO ALL STIFFS: The Denver Nuggets players don’t come here for counseling sessions! In fact, believe it or not, they probably don’t even read this blog!

I’m all for encouragement, but I’ve never really seen the point unless your target can actually hear you.

by GoldenNugget on Jan 28, 2010 6:00 PM MST up reply actions  

NOTE TO GOLDENNUGGET

JR calls me once a week for advice

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 6:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Why now?

I think people bring up his past as evidence that the things happening now are not isolated events. Yes, these things happened in the past and, for the most part, people forgave him. However, when he keeps doing dumb things over and over, it looks very much like a pattern that will not be changed any time soon…especially when he shows no indication of learning from his mistakes and improving his behavior. I suppose, at some point, if he continues to make mistakes, it will come to the point where the team just gives up on him. It has happened before, look at the old Blazers squad, or the Pacers.

FYI – Melo is a good example of someone that has made mistakes and learned from them. He has grown as a person and player. Let’s hope JR does the same.

The Tulo, Lawson, AA analogy doesn’t work well because they don’t F-up off the court…at least not that we’ve heard about. It is not just a performance thing…there has to be some accountablility for off court issues. Performance can only mask the other issues for so long.

by Pusherman on Jan 28, 2010 9:07 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

+1

Said it better than I could. One solid performance does not reform make.

Swats.

by BeefySwats on Jan 28, 2010 9:13 AM MST up reply actions  

@ Pusherman

So Melo gets a pass why? We’ve seen him make on-court mistakes, selfishness etc. We’ve also seen him make off-court mistakes, stop snitchin’, weed in the suitcase, and DRUNK DRIVING! But we can let that shit go because Melo goes for 30 on a nightly basis? What kind of lesson is that? ‘Play hard enough and all that illegal shit is ok.’ JR’s off court issues are not nearly as bad as Melo’s. Melo was driving a car under the influence in a situation where someone could have been seriously injured or worse. But JR is just driving and just happens to have the worst possible thing happen while he’s at the wheel, no drugs or alcohol around.

That’s when I get pissed we are contstantly holdinf JR’s demons in his face saying “remember this?” because he’s in a slump. I admit he has some growing up to do, but it will never happen if we keep telling him he’s a baby.

by Joelsopinion on Jan 28, 2010 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Melo doesn't get a pass

He’s scoring 30 and acting more mature. His last incident was about 2 years ago. Believe me, if Melo (or K-Mart or _________ filll-in-blank) was doing stupid things during this run, that could be interpretted as adversely affecting his team or his play or the community, he would be getting called out. Don’t believe for a second that people wouldn’t be saying the team can win without him (especially given recent evidence) and asking to trade him for Bosh…etc.

Fact is, Melo and JR are pretty much the same age and with the same level of experience. Melo has shown strong signs that he “gets it”, which is one of the only reason he is in MVP talks this year. He has stats before, but this year he is combining those stats with some important leadership and a winning team.

by Pusherman on Jan 28, 2010 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

His last on court incident was less than a year ago

When he refused to come out of a game. And oh yeah Melo is 2 years older than JR. Melo was 24 when he had his little DUI. Remind you of anyone?

by Joelsopinion on Jan 28, 2010 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Sorry

Melo was suspended after that game (JR was not suspended for his recent actions). Melo is about 16 months older than JR, with one more year of NBA experience. So, I guess we can give JR one more year right? Point remains the same…if Melo were still f-ing up during this run, people would be calling him out and some would be saying he should be traded…even, possibly me, and I am a huge Melo fan due to my Cuse roots. Fact is, you can only put up with so much, especially if a person (not just the player), shows no signs of changing. As I have said before, I hope JR proves me wrong…but in JR, I see more Spree and R. Davis, than P. Pierce.

by Pusherman on Jan 28, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

recent history

at yesterday’s game a process sever was about to give smith a court summons for unpaid legal bill. here is the problem as i see it. smith has a problem everybody has a problem. everybody else has a problem smith could not be bothered. last week the team was trying to win a game and smith walked out on them. a game against the bobcats smith gets elbowed in the face by gerald wallace, kmart defends smith, gets kicked out of the game and is fined $35,000.00. smith owes $23,000.00 for legal fees. he earns $73,000.00 per game. it would be nice if smith quits making more problems, takes care of the problems he already has and maybe try and help others with their problems for once. lucky for earl smith III other people do not show him all the thought, kindness and consideration he shows them. i have always liked urkel and his game. all because he has 2 decent games in a row i cannot forgive and forget just yet. there is an old saying. you are either part of the problem or part of the solution. i hope that smith becomes part of the solution more often on a regular basis.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Jan 28, 2010 3:53 PM MST up reply actions  

That's because he's not f-ing up...

..if he were acting stupid, believe me, people would say it. It took one recent well known incident for almost everyone to jump off the JR bandwagon…look at Andrew’s post and the comments after.

by Pusherman on Jan 28, 2010 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Not me brother

I’m on the other side for this one

by Gasus on Jan 28, 2010 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Great Game.

Good write up Andy. The first quarter the Nuggets were asleep, then the beast woke up and beat the Rockets down.
Interesting how AA has a great game when JR plays bad, then lays down the next game while JR plays fantastic. Is that team basketball?
I really hope Melo has watched the team closely these past couple games. I don’t care if he wins the scoring title, but would love to see him come back and keep the hottest TEAM in the Association playing at a high level.
My only complaint last night is Nene. I understand being unselfish with the ball, but standing underneath the hoop-then passing it out to somebody on the 3-point line is not a good decision.
C’MON BIG FELLA. All us Nuggets fans want to see you have a 30 point game.

by CSprings_Tommy on Jan 28, 2010 9:31 AM MST reply actions  

Re: Nene...

It’s funny you bring up Nene, because I was watching the game on the Houston feed and before tipoff, Clyde Drexler – one of their broadcasters – said something like: “With Melo out, expect a big offensive night out of Nene!” All I could think is: Clyde, you clearly don’t know anything about the Nuggets…

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by Andrew Feinstein on Jan 28, 2010 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

Funny 'cause in the second quarter I started thinking

Hey . . maybe this is the game Nene deciedes to dominant. He can score at will against these guys . . 30? 40? . . that’d be kinda cool. Then the second qaurter ended and Nene didn’t shoot the ball again until Billups fed him for the layup in traffic.

Some game, Nene is going to shock all us and drop 30+ , then he will go back to 7 shots for the rest of the month.

by Frontrange on Jan 28, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Nene deserves credit, not blame

Nene almost single handedly got the Nugs back in that game in the second quarter. He finished with a very respectable 18 points after going scoreless in the first, with 13 coming in the second when he was literally unstoppable. After starting the quarter down 31-16 the Nene led Nugs stormed back. Drexler probably saw the fact that no one on the Rockets would be able to cover him and he was right. The Rockets are so short that a talented big like Nene probably strikes fear into their hearts. If anything, he doesnt shoot enough. Nene was 6-7 from the field. Truth is he is an unselfish player who comes through when his number is called. Its all you can ask for from your center. The Nugs have so many weapons that Nene will never get 15 -20 shots a game nor should he. I for one am very happy with the play of our Center.

by gonugs on Jan 28, 2010 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I dont think Nene should force shots if they arent there

He is so efficient because he passes out of marginal situations to find the open man. Ok by me. Many people here are very quick to criticize Nene, not necesarily Andrew. The truth is he has played very well for two years now. Always in the top 5 for something whether it be shooting % or the fact that this year he leads the league in steals for centers. Keep it up Nene. Playing well.

by gonugs on Jan 28, 2010 3:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed

He has been playing well. But against a team with a 6’6" center Nene should go for 30. I’d rather he go for 20+ and shoot 55% than go for 15 and shoot 65%. No one else on the team is that efficient…

by Gasus on Jan 28, 2010 3:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm starting to get sick of the constant

“I’m surprised the Nuggets are THIS good” and “They are clearly the 2nd best team in the West” bull***t from the national media.

Granted the Nugz made no serious moves in the off season….but it’s like they expected the Nuggets to fall completely off the map. So frustrating.

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by jpage78 on Jan 28, 2010 12:23 PM MST reply actions  

Wheres your sig?? OMG

"Groovy" Ash from Evil Dead 2

"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple

by jpage78 on Jan 28, 2010 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

read my new sig

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 12:35 PM MST up reply actions  

geh....what do they know. It made you unique

"Groovy" Ash from Evil Dead 2

"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple

by jpage78 on Jan 28, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions  

well they kept complaining about having to scroll further

on their friggin ICracks’ and Crackberrys..

but I’ll find something else to say …..and it’ll be better

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 12:38 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

I think in a couple weeks they are going to be talking about whether or not LA is as good as the Nugs. Nugs with the best record in the game by 2/15, my prediction

by Gasus on Jan 28, 2010 12:36 PM MST up reply actions  

this.....

and WHAT A SWEET DAY THAT WILL BE!

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions  

It's just so strange that people are SHOCKED by this

I’m not saying everyone should think the Nuggets are great….I’m just saying that the shock is a but stupid.

Just because Denver is in the Mountain Time zone….doesn’t mean we live in some sort weird Dr. Who-esqe dimension that can only be seen with the aid of a Time Lord

(nerd)

"Groovy" Ash from Evil Dead 2

"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple

by jpage78 on Jan 28, 2010 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

+1 for the Dr Who reference

and who is going to replace David Tennant?

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

They got a 21 year old kid to replace him....forgot his name

I will MISS Tennant alot….he was great.

"Groovy" Ash from Evil Dead 2

"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple

by jpage78 on Jan 28, 2010 12:48 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

Nugs will never get the media hype unless they start winning the big one. Just got to get through the referees this year and they will do it

by Gasus on Jan 28, 2010 12:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Heh, the lack of respect is what drives this team

No one expects the Nuggets to win anything. We’ll see what happens. I have a feeling that many people are going to be very surprised.

by Uh on Jan 28, 2010 4:46 PM MST up reply actions  

The Nugs made two moves

getting a competent back-up PG who can greatly trouble the Lakers, and a shut down defender who is a better scorer then the one we had last year. The Lakers made one, they got a nut head for a player whom I believe is better then Rony. We almost beat them last year, we have a better chance this. The one thing I don’t get is the Spurs love from the media, woohooo you signed another player out of his prime to fit in with your other aging players! You will be amazing and obviously no. 2!!!!!

March 14, 2010: The great one returns!

by Phil H. on Jan 28, 2010 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Great Team Win

Nuggets really play as a team without Melo, and Nene’s and Kenyon’s games go up a notch when they get their touched. Love Melo and we need him back, but I hope he is able to slide into this team concept and hold back his game a bit. The nuggs are GREAT when They play unselfishly.

by ACEIII on Jan 28, 2010 12:46 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

double team

when melo is double teamed he needs to pass the ball right after he catches it. if he does the defense does not have time to rotate. the sooner he passes the ball the sooner melo gets the ball back. when he jab steps, shoots over, tries to dribble through or around the double team he makes it difficult on himself to score. melo can play less minutes, take less shots and score more points by giving up the ball sooner rather then later. by delaying the pass he takes seconds off the shot clock, allows the defense to set up and cannot get position to rebound. if melo becomes a willing passer and a determined rebounder he can get a triple double most games. he can do it the easy way or the hard way. nuggets can have huge leads early in the game and maintain the lead instead of having to fight their way back in the forth quarter or overtime.

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by nohoops4u on Jan 28, 2010 5:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Melo Has Made Good Progress

I will say that Melo is having his best year in terms of playing team ball, finding open players, not holding the ball too long, and forcing shots. No doubt, Melo is starting to get it. I wasn’t trashing Melo, just saying how great Nene and Martin play on both ends when they are getting touches, and I hope Melo can keep Nene and Martin playing at their current levels by sharing the ball when he gets back.

by ACEIII on Jan 28, 2010 6:22 PM MST up reply actions  

good overall game

there was a part where nene looked like a the best center in the nba in the middle of the 2nd, billups was mr big shot , JR played a good game, and kmarts defense and rebounding continues to impress….. now lets ride this momentum into OKC and get well melo

by hvino on Jan 28, 2010 2:27 PM MST reply actions  

JR will be doomed to this criticism

for the rest of his career every time he isn’t perfect or makes a mistake. It must suck to be a human being and play in the NBA

Because it's become tiresome

by SDcat09 on Jan 28, 2010 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

God,,,,Mike Evans went WAY overboard in his critique of JR

To the point where DMac and he got into it at the end of Evans show yesterday. Some people out there want you to be perfect all the time

"Groovy" Ash from Evil Dead 2

"No one came from miles around / and said man your music is really hot" No One Came...Deep Purple

by jpage78 on Jan 28, 2010 3:55 PM MST up reply actions  

I have a very convincing JR argument in the works

For all of you clamoring about his potential and soon to average 24ppg nonsense, just need to finish up the research but so far its been quite enlightening. Lets just put it this way, 24 years old and 6 years in the league is not as young as you might think it is

by Zachm219 on Jan 28, 2010 8:20 PM MST reply actions  

On a brighter note

Tony Parker is expected to miss the game on Sunday

by jb22 on Jan 28, 2010 9:41 PM MST reply actions  

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