Game 45 Preview & Thread: Nuggets at Rockets (6:30pm MST)
by Andrew Feinstein on Jan 27, 2010 9:40 AM MST
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PrintDenver Nuggets at Houston Rockets, Jan 27, 2010 6:30 PM MST
When President Barack Obama steps up to the podium to kickoff his first State of the Union address tonight, the Nuggets will already have played one quarter against the Rockets. I'll be DVR'ing both events, hoping that the Nuggets win their eighth straight and that Obama gets this country back on track.
Our country seems to be struggling mightily as unemployment continues to rise, our national debt goes up and our enemies remain emboldened while our two main political parties bicker like third graders.
Make that first graders.
Our Nuggets, on the other hand, have come together, put their bickering (temporarily, at least) in regards to J.R. Smith aside and are the hottest team in the NBA right now. Winners of seven straight and ten of 12, I'm glad I'll have something to feel good about on TV tonight.
And yes, the Nuggets have been the beneficiaries of some favorable scheduling. But as I've pointed out for months now, scheduling matters because if a team like our Nuggets can rack up a bucket of wins before hitting a tough stretch (as they're about to), their confidence will carry over into that tough stretch. As things stand today, the Nuggets are on pace to win a franchise best 56 games (I still think they'll finish with 53, just sayin') and this recent spate of victories just might be what ultimately sends the Nuggets into that rarefied air for this franchise by season's end.
Running into the buzzsaw that has become the Nuggets are the Houston Rockets, who have won just four games out of their last 11 and may finally be succumbing to the weight of their depleted roster. While Rockets head coach Rick Adelman continues to amaze by getting consistent performances out of a team with no All-Stars or anyone even close to being an All-Star, at some point a roster with a 6'6" starting center and a very thin bench can only go so far in the Western Conference. In the Rockets case, if they make the playoffs at all, it will be as one of the bottom two seeds.
All that said, the Nuggets seven-game winning streak could easily come to an end tonight. The Nuggets haven't won at Houston in three years and the Rockets are in the midst of a six-game home stand with ample breaks between each game. But of the Nuggets next three games - all tough, all on the road - this one feels the most winnable to me. Not only are the Rockets struggling, but they rarely draw a good crowd on a Wednesday night (comparatively, the Ford Center is going to be overly raucous when the Nuggets venture to Oklahoma City on Friday night) and as noted above, the Nuggets should be fairly fresh having had a day off and this being their first road game of the trip.
SCOUTING THE ROCKETS...
Rockets Stiffs
-Trevor Ariza's field goal percentage: The Rockets prized offseason acquisition is having a fine season overall, but can't shoot straight to save his life. Entering tonight's game, Ariza is "shooting" 37.8% from the field and just 29.8% from three-point range. In fact, out of his last 17 games Ariza has shot 50% of better just twice, including games in which he shot 3-14, 5-17, 1-10, 2-11 and 5-14 three times. And no, I'm not quoting J.R. Smith's games here (sorry, I had to).
-David Andersen: 6'11", 245 pounds, getting over 14 minutes per game, shooting just 42.5% from the field and white. This guy's a Stiff!
Rockets Non-Stiffs
-Rick Adelman: Is there a better coach in the NBA than Adelman? After all the roster lemons that Adelman has been handed in Houston, he continues to make great lemonade. Put almost any other coach in Adelman's seat and there's no way this team is 24-20 and jockeying for playoff positioning right now.
-Carl Landry: Landry is making a great case to be named the NBA's Sixth Man of the Year. For a guy who doesn't have a lot of offensive skills, Landry takes smart, high percentage shots and has increased his scoring average by over seven ppg this season.
-Chuck Hayes: Listed at just 6'6" (he might really be 6'5" - my height!), the tough Hayes admirably anchors the center spot for the Rockets. Hayes efforts haven't gone unnoticed nationally, as The New York Times recently wrote an entire feature on Hayes that I encourage my fellow Stiffs to check out.
Opposition's Take: The Dream Shake
Photo courtesy of AP Photos: Pat Sullivan
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Landry
is thought by some to be the best player on that team. I think if Kenyon takes it to heart tonight to stop him there is no way Houston wins this game. I’d also like to see JR focus more on running the pick and roll well, when he’s taking what the defense gives him he seems to play better.
If nothing else I’d like to see JR play better to improve his trade value!
Aaron Brooks vs. Ty Lawson ...
Speed never has a bad day!
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Really looking forward to that matchup!
Lil’ Penny 2.0 vs. Against the Lawson
If its close at the end, when we inbound, let’s keep an eye on where Ariza is on the floor ; ) Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me; fool me three times…
by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 27, 2010 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, yeah
That inbounds pass, that’s the stuff of nightmares.
by ParkHillNative on Jan 27, 2010 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
If AC has to inbound one pass...
I’m going to buy myself an AC jersey.
….And then burn it….
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Time for Ariza and the bench to step up
Not sure I agree with the fact the Rockets have a weak bench, in fact it’s because their bench has consistently outplayed other teams that they have their current record. Landry, Lowry, Buddinger, have all been key to the Rockets success, along with the “stiff” David Andersen who I recall Andrew had “never heard of” until last time they played.
Ariza’s issues are shooting off the dribble, something he never was relied on for with the Lake show. He tries to do too much and then yells at other players. Still a fan of this pickup but I hope he wakes up and realizes where he is.
Hoping for a good game, good luck Nuggets fans.
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Yep, you're right with Andersen
Came from Europe on a very cheap deal, he is averaging 6 ppg and 3 rpg with 1 apg in 14 minutes per game. He was drafted 36th in the 2002 NBA draft (You know, the same one in which we drafted Skita and Nene over Amar’’’’’’’’’’’e and Caron Butler).
He can hit the occasional three, and is a decent defender. He seems to have a good work ethic, so he’s a stiff in the same way that Hanz was one.
He has to be the shot creator because they have no one on the team capable of doing that. If he’s doing something, it’s because their GM is asking him to play in that way.
Brooks can kinda create his own shot too
And he seems to be their PG.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Really? Still?
Andrew, come on! Did JR Smith pee in your coffee? Lay off already! Nugs are playing great! How about instead of constantly ragging on JR, perhaps you give him some encouragement? Like, “I sure hope JR plays well tonight. Been a tough stretch of games for him, but I’d love to see the Nuggets with him playing as well as he is capable of doing.” Hell, even Karl doesn’t take the diss-him-til-he-changes approach anymore. And by the way, you can probably just dismiss all those trade proposals you came up with because according to ESPN’s Chris Broussard, the chances of JR being traded are highly unlikely. Time to get behind ALL the Nuggets, not just the ones playing at a high level. JR will get this turned around, and you will be happy he did come playoff time.
by A Pimp Named Slickback on Jan 27, 2010 11:42 AM MST reply actions
A little sensitive?
It was a joke… a joke. Until a blogger’s words affect how an NBA player performs, there should be worries about encouragement.
by GoldenNugget on Jan 27, 2010 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
Young Money can nurse his hurt feelings
while crying into a pillow stuffed with $100 bills.
by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 27, 2010 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
For a pimp...
…you are very sensitive to the plight of an employee.
by Pusherman on Jan 27, 2010 1:25 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
rick adelman played for the chicago bulls
2 other players on that team went on to become head coaches in the nba- matt gukas and jerry sloan.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
bobby weiss also played on the same bulls team
and became an nba head coach.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
Jason Kosmizcki (spelling??) said on Twitter....
That Melo is OUT tonight and Graham will get the start tonight….
MELO!!!
MileHighReport.com
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Kind of makes me excited to tell you the truth
I really like watching Grahm and after the way we played the other night, I am really looking forward to watching again,.
by GoldenNugget on Jan 27, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
I see it
as a chance to prove if the recent play of the other members of our team is real or just a fluke. If Joey can hit double-digits again, Spellcheck can have another good night, and Chauncey explodes for 20+, I’ll feel a bit better about our team. Nene seems to play better when Melo’s out too imo, but i could be imagining it. :P
The Nugs have seemed to have an
easier time replacing Melo’s points when he’s injured as compared to Billups leadership or K-Mart’s D.
He’s been injured enough though that the Rockets should have enough video of Melo-less games to not be surprised by how we’ve smoke and mirrored our offense without Melo.
five consecutive games melo missed
denver scored 105, 105, 123, 99 and 100 points. the first 3 games billups was out of action too.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
Melo is NOT playing
according to the post
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Jan 27, 2010 12:27 PM MST reply actions
Meh Joey Graham is a pretty good player
And Afflalo can make up for the rest of Melo’s scoring with more assists. KMart will probably step up against the Rockets’ undersized frontcourt and grab 24 rebounds or something.
I'm not too concerned with Melo being out against the Rockets
They are a small team anyway. Although this shouldn’t mean that some greedy opportunists (you know who you are) should suggest the Nuggets are better off without Melo.
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They’re a small team that rebounds really, really well. Chuck Hayes defends guys much larger and outrebounds 7 footers.
It turns out the Nuggets aren’t much worse without Melo…it’s arguable if they’re worse at all (I love Melo as much of the next guy, but that’s what the #s say). They become worse offensively, and better defensively and net-net, it’s about the same. Now, if you take Nene, Ty Lawson, or Chauncey out, we become much worse.
The Nuggets aren't worse off in the short term
as they say in the baseball stats world – SSS ( Small Sample Size)
Let’s see how we do if Melo is out for a month or the rest of the season (God forbid!!) And other teams figure out how to defense against a Melo-less Nuggets long-term
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Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Lets just look at how well the Wizards fare without Agent Zero for the rest of the season.
by InboundingLobPass on Jan 27, 2010 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
They might hit .500
and they will almost certainly have less grand jury cases
by Joelsopinion on Jan 27, 2010 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
The wizards will also be fine without Agent Zero..
He’s not actually good. Factor in how much they’re paying him, and he probably has the worst contract in the league.
Exactly.
chantech, I highly doubt the Nuggets would be 2nd in the West and a 30-win team without Melo. They’d be more of a lower tier playoff team (fighting the likes of the Rockets and Thunder).
And for some strange reason I disagree with your notion that Ty Lawson is more valuable than Melo to the team.
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
I love Chauncey and he was a game changer for us to be sure.
But the game doesn’t even sniff the playoffs without Melo….
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Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Wrong
Co-MVP of this team goes to Billups and Kmart period. Nugs still make the playoffs without Melo but they are not contending for the title.
NO YOU'RE WRONG
just kidding…but really I don’t think you can categorically say I’m wrong..
after all it’s just my opinion …just as you have one…
Can’t really prove it one way or the other, unless Melo is out rest of the year and we do or don’t make the playoffs.
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Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Looked to me that you were placing more importance on Melo than Billups
To that I say you are wrong and there is plenty of evidence to support it.
Wait ...
“Nugs still make the playoffs without Melo”
So you’re saying Nuggets would miss the playoffs if they didn’t have Billups or KMart? Because if that is what you believe, I am going to disagree.
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
100% that is what I am saying
Go look at the performance so far this year without either one of those guys.
Co-MVPs...Billups, KMart, and MELO
If any of those guys were to miss a season, it would take Denver out of the running for a title, and probably knock the team down to 7th to 10th.
Nene is another critical part of the team…but not on the same level importance-wise as those other three. Still though, replace Nene with an average player and the Nuggets fall to 6th at best.
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 3:40 PM MST up reply actions
Without melo, the nuggets are looking at about the 7 seed in the conference
Through an entire season, his points and rebounding production would be greatly missed, as well as the constant double teams that open up shots for AAA, billups, JR, and lawson. However with him, we have a legitimate chance at the nba title
by Cargo5 on Jan 27, 2010 3:58 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
that's not greatly different than what I suggested
although I’m not sure we even make the playoffs. How is this a +1 and mine is a wrong. Because I suggested we don’t make the playoffs?
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Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Yeah
And the fact that you suggested Melo is more important to the team than Billups. Don’t get too worked up bro…
Melo
When was the last time the Nuggets made the playoffs with Melo?
Not dogging Melo
But Billups and Kmart are more important to this team this year than Melo, period.
I respectfully disagree
…and man, I like K-Mart, but his stick has gone through the roof this year. Sell high.
Sorry, "stock"
I have to stop typing new..I mean now.
and I'm not a bro ...
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Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
I dont think he knows you're a she...lol
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If you people call me DUDE one more time....
Its DUDETTE!!!!
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
My bad Chica!
But to be totally fair the handles of “dude” and “man” are fairly interchangeable these days and not deemed to be sexist…besides what are we gonna say when you make a valid point ‘Go girl go’ I just don’t see it happening. I’ll try and remember though.
by Joelsopinion on Jan 27, 2010 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
that's a good point...
“YOU GO GIRL” works lol
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Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Sorry for the Bro thing
Hope you see my point on the Billups thing…
I actually don't agree.. I think we get further with Chauncey but don't get there at all
without Melo.
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
you mean a not-rec :P
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
records before melo and after ...Melo was drafted in '03 correct?
1995–96 NBA Western Midwest 4th 35 47 .427
1996–97 NBA Western Midwest 5th 21 61 .256
1997–98 NBA Western Midwest 7th 11 71 .134
1998–99 NBA Western Midwest 6th 14 36 .280
1999–2000 NBA Western Midwest 5th 35 47 .427
2000–01 NBA Western Midwest 6th 40 42 .488
2001–02 NBA Western Midwest 6th 27 55 .329
2002–03 NBA Western Midwest 7th 17 65 .207
2003–04 NBA Western Midwest 6th 43 39 .524 Lost First Round (Minnesota) 4-1
2004–05 NBA Western Northwest 2nd 49 33 .598 Lost First Round (San Antonio) 4-1
2005–06 NBA Western Northwest 1st 44 38 .537 Lost First Round (L.A. Clippers) 4-1
2006–07 NBA Western Northwest 2nd 45 37 .549 Lost First Round (San Antonio) 4-1
2007–08 NBA Western Northwest 2nd 50 32 .610 Lost First Round (L.A. Lakers) 4-0
2008–09 NBA Western Northwest 1st 54 28 .659 Won First Round (New Orleans) 4-1
Won Conference Semifinals (Dallas) 4-1
Lost Conference Finals (L.A. Lakers) 4-2
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
don't know what happened to the matrix
sorry about the format….but as you can see we made the playoffs every year after Melo was drafted. He’s the common denominator after 03….
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Andre Miller and AI were involved a lot I believe
Then you add Billups and the guy that had lead his team to 6 straight conference finals takes the Nugs to his 7th. Nugs were stuck with Melo and another star in the first round exit category till Billups was around. Big difference from a player that can take him and his cast to a 1st round exit than a player that gets to the conference finals every year.
Why don’t you post the Nugs record this year without Melo first, then without Billups, and lastly without Kmart?
I'm not talking about this year only.
My point was that without Melo, the Nuggets didn’t make the playoffs AT ALL. The addition of Billups is a huge boost. I actually posted in a different thread that right now Billups is saving the Nuggets.
You seem to suggest that then Nuggets could easily lose Melo and be as succesful. I disagree with that.
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Not what I am saying at all
Go back through my other posts
well do you think that we make the playoffs without Melo?
I thought that was the discussion. Perhaps I got lost along the way
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
I do think the Nugs make the playoffs without Melo
Not a chance they win the title and they’d have a tough time getting out of the first round. Depends on matchup for the first round I guess.
Well I just pray we don't have to find out :)
on this I think we agree
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Billups is one of the all time greatest winners of our generation
There are only a few that have led teams to the success that he has. He is one of the most under rated players in history and I think he deserves his just credit in Denver of all places…
I agree with you about Chauncey.
But I thought we were arguing about Melo’s value…lol
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Everyone agrees the Nuggets don't win a title without Chauncey
But then again, they don’t win a title without Melo either.
They could win without KMart, though it would be a longshot at best
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
While u r at it
Go through Detroit’s record pre, during, and post Billups….
I'm not saying we don't need Billups
you’re trying to change the discussion I think.
I know what Billups brings, OMG I LOVE Chauncey. We are soooo much better with him, absolutely.
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
No
I responded with wrong to your post because you were suggesting that Melo means more to this team than Billups. I can provide plenty of hard evidence that is wrong. I love Melo but I also don’t believe Chauncey gets the credit he deserves as one of the most valuable players in the NBA.
Its a great debate
I was trying to support the position that we don’t even get to the playoffs without Melo. Do you think we get there without him?
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Well to be fair the Melo-led Nuggets (2003-8) never really did much
But you can blame part of that on AI and maybe on KMart as well, and definitely on all the injuries.
I have to agree. In fact, I can see the Nuggets as a Pacers-type team w/o Melo…just good enough to miss the lottery, just bad enough to earn any seed higher than 7th.
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 4:44 PM MST up reply actions
The thing I don't get
Where do people expect that scoring load to come from if Melo wasn’t here?
Chauncey? He’s aging and plays at a distributing position.
Nene? He could be great if he played up to his potential, but he’s not a dominant offensive big the way Shaq was or even the way Yao was last year.
KMart? I don’t think so.
JR? Yeah, we’ve had this discussion.
I mean, other than Melo (and possibly AC), the Nuggets just don’t have a natural scorer, who can take 20-30 shots and make a great deal of those. All of the recent championship teams have had one (Kobe, Wade, Duncan). Then you have the 6-7 rebs Melo brings every game, and the smart passing ability when he tries…Melo’s a great player.
We as Nuggets fans have been taking him for granted, this year especially. Melo is a great player. No way around it.
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
I agree Melo is great and the Nugs need him no doubt
But if you think he is a more valuable player than Billups then I will disagree till the day I die.
you know during the excellent 97-98 season I'll never forget the..
very convincing win against the Bulls
just say IAWTC and rec'd , then rec it ...if it goes over 3 I think it goes green or something
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
by SDcat09 on Jan 27, 2010 4:20 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
4 and up for DenverStiffs goes green, yep
I like recs…they bring out the best comments and help clear out the clutter a little. (I find the “+1” posts to be a little unnecessary if there’s no explanation for why you gave it +1. Maybe that’s just me.)
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 4:23 PM MST up reply actions
well sometimes you just agree..
although THIS works for that
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
I think of recs more
of serious recommendations. I don’t rec much..
agree = this
really agree = IAWTC
you totally rock in your comment and I want others to read it as well = rec
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
actually THIS and IAWTC
are interchangeable…
but I take reccin’ seriously lol
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Hm
I rec serious comments that I agree with about 50% of the time.
The other 50% I rec comments that are laugh out loud funny.
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 4:34 PM MST up reply actions
well those count too...
I guess what I’m trying to say is recs are reserved for the really special stuff
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Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Good points
It would also be cool if the whole DS community could utilize FanPost recs. That way the best ones (like LACK’s the other day) can stay up in the Recommended Fanpost area.
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 4:31 PM MST up reply actions
That's exactly right
What’s the point of giving “+1” if you aren’t going to rec it?
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lol for you?
really, you make some long posts…why is that too much work :)
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Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Without Chauncey, Nuggets will be an eighth seed that made the playoffs at the last game of the regular season
…………….
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"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Actually, the sample size is quite large...
This is every single minute the Nuggets have played this year without Melo in the lineup. That includes the games he was out and the minutes where he was on the bench.
He was actually a net positive last year, but this year he’s a net negative.
-1
Nugs need Melo big time. They are not nearly the same elite team without him. For a few games in the regular season they may be better as I am sure the team gets tired of him hogging the ball on offense but they need his ability to score at any time against anyone come playoff time and in games against great teams.
Nugs are fine without Lawson as well but he is a needed piece for some reliability and change of pace when Billups is on the bench or out with injury. The two guys the Nugs can’t live without at any time are Kmart and Billups. Nene may fall into that category as well as Bird but lets hope we don’t have to find out…
it is a big relief to have lawson on the team
in case something should happen to ac.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
by nohoops4u on Jan 27, 2010 2:51 PM MST up reply actions 6 recs
oh look its green!!!
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Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Rec'd
But remember, we need AC too because then Karl wouldn’t do some crazy lineup like Renaldo Balkman at PG…
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Gasus...
Here’s what happens when Carmelo is not in the lineup. The team plays less 1 on 1 basketball. The ball goes into Nene more often and the best thing that can happen on a Nugget’s possession is Nene taking a shot both because of how efficiently he shoots, how often the Nuggets rebound the ball when he misses, and also how many layups we get directly off his passes. It turns out, we are less efficient, as a whole on offense though. So, the team becomes worse offensively, no surprise here.
The other side effect of Carmelo being out is our team defense gets way better. So much so, that the team is the exact same with him in the game and out of the game from an efficiency standpoint.
You say the Nuggets can’t live without Kmart and Billups. I would argue that Ty Lawson would be at least equivalent to Billups in the starting lineup. Where the Nuggets get worse is AC plays…who is way below average compared to the average NBA point guard. When AC gets significant minutes, the Nuggets become signifcantly worse.
The most valuable Nugget is Nene. In fact, he’s hire in win shares than Carmelo. Add to the fact that the Nuggets have 0 big man depth, and he’s by far the MVP of the team so far.
Yes, Nene has the "hire" total of win shares.
He also happens to have played in more games and minutes, and win shares are not perfect when it comes to individual players.
You failed to point out, however, that Melo has the higher PER, which is a more valuable rating as to how well the player is playing. And it’s not close. Melo’s PER (24.5) is much better than Nene’s (19.1).
Here is what you said:
1) The team’s offense gets worse without Melo, Agreed.
2) The team’s defense gets way better without Melo. Ehhh, ok, I’ll give you this one.
3) When AC plays, the Nuggets get worse. We’ll see who has the last laugh when AC hits the gamewinning shot of Game 7 of the Finals this year.
Here is where I take issue: “the team is the exact same with him in the game and out of the game from an efficiency standpoint.”
Can you prove this? Admittedly the Nuggets have won many games without Melo. However, keep in mind that an SSS such as the ~8 games missed by Melo does not prove your point. Anything can happen in such a short sample of games, and I would bet that the loss of Melo over a whole season would damage us more than the loss of Nene. These two players are both crucial to the Nuggets’ success.
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 9:31 PM MST up reply actions
You wanted proof, here it is. Keep in mind my database is like 25 days out of date (I think it’s this season up to the 15th of Dec)…if you want updated #s from up till tonight, let me know.
Without Melo:
Offensive Efficiency: 1.22243672651654
Defensive Efficiency: 1.07404720079432
Differential: 0.148389525722217
Minutes Played: 251.55
With Melo:
Offensive Efficiency: 1.29065988884042
Defensive Efficiency: 1.20871162467026
Differential: 0.0819482641701588
Minutes Played: 800.866666666667
So, for each offensive and defensive possession when Melo is on the floor, the Nuggets should gain .08 points on the average NBA team. When he’s not on the floor, we gain .14 points per possession.
more playing time foe joey
I say this is a good thing…bench players need reps. Getting quality play time filling in for melo will make joey, afflalo and even jr more valuable going forward and in the playoffs. I think the injuries have been a blessing in disguise.
by porridgeorange on Jan 27, 2010 12:52 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I told you
That Melo would be out at least two games on that ankle roll.
I hate being right all the time.
We still win this game. But the streak comes to an end in Oklahoma City.
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on the contrary
I think Melo wants to be full strength to take on KD and the kids
by InboundingLobPass on Jan 27, 2010 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
melo is having same problem mike jordan did with bulls
jordan would not trust his teammates. when jordan started winning championships he was getting the other players involved in the offense first. when his teammates became viable scoring threats and options it became easier for jordan to score. right now melo is trying to shooting over, dribbling through and around double teams. it is very impressive on one hand to see any player do that. it should be the exception rather then the rule with melo. he can play less minutes, take less shots AND SCORE MORE POINTS. it is strictly a matter of doing things the hard way or the easy way.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
about jordan
it’s a common misconception that jordan didn’t play well with others because he “didn’t trust his teammates”. In fact, Jordan played solo mostly because his teammates sucked
by porridgeorange on Jan 27, 2010 5:23 PM MST up reply actions
Um, really???
Let’s see…
Scottie Pippen (Heard that he’s not that bad)
Toni Kukoc (3-point expert)
Steve Kerr (Ditto)
Dennis Rodman (He seems to have had a knack for the boards)
Horace Grant (Would be a top 3 center in the league today)
Luc Longley and Ron Harper weren’t bad.
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Um, Ty Lawson was snubbed from the Rookie team
WTF?
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Lawesome cares about winning the Golden Ball......
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I don't like this
To some extent I can see why they put Gibson, Jerebko, and Casspi on…Those three players really haven’t had quite the same season Ty Lawson has had, but they needed forwards on the team.
However, I am confused as to why James Harden got the nod over Ty. Harden is having a worse year in terms of efficiency, and is not shooting for a high percentage at all (39.1% from the field, compared to Lawson’s 49.8%). Plus Ty has the advantage in assists.
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
On second thought
Apparently Harden plays really good defense.
Hm. Guess there were just too many great rookie guards out there this year. Even though I still think they should have dropped one of those forwards for Lawson, who is having one of the best seasons of any rookie…
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 3:29 PM MST up reply actions
Lawson was ignored because he's a Nugget play and simple
Colorado Rockies 2009 - Best comeback in MLB history to win NL Wild Card
Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
by SDcat09 on Jan 27, 2010 3:34 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Heh
Harden does play good defense, but Lawson is better.
I love how you there aren’t any recs for SDC’s post despite there being two “+(some number)” things above mine.
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"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
While Adelman is a great coach...
More of the credit for the Houston Rockets should go to the organization, and particularly, their GM Daryl Morey who’s one of the top GMs in the game. They’ve created an offense where they have 0 shot creation. If you follow Morey on Twitter, he tracks everything from deflections to “true assists”. If you watch their offense it’s pretty much Brooks driving and dishing to guys for corner and open 3’s and then everyone crashing the boards.
Guys like Chuck Hayes and Carl Landry are huge assets who were vastly undervalued. While their roster may look like a bunch of scrubs, each piece brings something to the table and they have a young team that’s playing well together. Also, they have a retarded amount of money to spend in free agency after unloading TMac’s contract. When Yao comes back, getting a quality FA or 2 this offseason, and giving the young guys another year to gel, this team is going to be ridiculously good.
yao
I’m not really sold on yao taking this team up a notch when he comes back….lleg and foot problems are tough on big men. Bill walton comes to mind and yao was never as good as big red (though I guess yao could probaably use the moniker as well). Anyway the rockets are very good and morey is a great gm but shane battier will fade and I’m not sure yao ever lives to his considerable potential.
by porridgeorange on Jan 27, 2010 1:51 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
True about Yao
Good Bigs are like fancy etch-a-sketch drawings, sure they’re cool while they last, but one too many shake ups and you’ll have to start all over.
ps- That illustration will go with just about anything, a can of beer, shaken baby syndrome, a baseball line up, Kevin Costner’s career…It has almost as many applications as the “That’s what she said” line.
by Joelsopinion on Jan 27, 2010 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
Graham and Allen
need time on the court to feel like they have ownership in the team. I mean, 11 points in a quarter is a good start for Joey. Overcoming adversity (injuries) is what makes great teams great. For this we need these guys playing like they own the court.
Allen needs to play in the post.
He spends too much time wandering around 15-20 feet out.
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welcome!!!
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Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
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Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Why, thank you.
I’ve been reading your blogs for a few weeks and I decided to become a member. Pretty neat.
I'm fairly new here myself....I mostly hang out at Purple Row..
One tip…if you use the reply link, it keeps the topics grouped together better. Took me a couple of go rounds to figure that out :)
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Troy Tulowitzki- MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Brad Hawpe- The Original Rockies LASER arm
Dexter Fowler- Blinding speed, blinding smile, leaps Utleys in a single bound.
Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
Great to see a new poster
Hope you can stick around, DenverStiffs is the best Nuggets blog out there
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
DS is also the best blog out there too
Although I love reading the Blowtorch and Basketbawful. It was there in which I got the reason for my screenname.
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Let's just hope
The 2% we’re off isn’t about the Nuggets taking the title this year that’d suck. oh yeah and welcome. if you have the time and a nice PC connection, the chats during the game are awesome even if you don’t participate they’re a blast to read. Crack a brew (or a glass o wine) and enjoy!
by Joelsopinion on Jan 27, 2010 3:41 PM MST up reply actions
I really hope you're old enough to drink
if not please disregard Joelsopinion and don’t call Chris Hanson
by Joelsopinion on Jan 27, 2010 3:42 PM MST up reply actions
Welcome aboard Mini Hulk ...
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 27, 2010 3:58 PM MST up reply actions
Man two game in a row I won't be here for a game thread
Try to enjoy yourselves without me :P
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Yorvit Torrealba- Thanks for all the clutch in the playoffs!
I'm guessing it's going to be a closer game
But the Nuggets are going to pull it off. Not sure if Bird should even play tonight.
So I am in College Station, TX
and I assumed since Houston is only an hour away I would finally get to see the nuggets tonight at home…guess not. Stupid dish network!
by ColoradoAggie11 on Jan 27, 2010 6:39 PM MST reply actions
Karl pissed off at the team's defense and shot selection...and so brings in JR early
by Rainbow skyline on Jan 27, 2010 6:50 PM MST reply actions
Dear Joey Graham
I know you’re filling in for Melo, but don’t take the shots like him (He can at least make them, most of the time). Do make me want to trade you for a Ham sandwich.
http://channelsurfing.net/watch-nba-8.html
Or…. you could just cut and paste….
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This quater is a joke
perfect representation of how horrible it was with the k-mart 3 and idiotic JR foul.
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And of course the stupid Bird pass giving them two more
Nugs didn’t show up so I’m done watching, I’ll tune back in if they get it going again.
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Nene needs to do that more where he makes his move immediately after getting the ball
don’t wait and hold the ball and allow the defense to adjust or double team
Oh it appears the Nuggets have started playing something called "basketball"
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Margebelle
you see the blond dude all out of air when he’s walking up the steps talking ? The other dude looks like he’s just about to crack up
50-51 Rockets
This game will be over by he end of the 3rd. The nuggets started trying and they were better. Go figure
is it half time?
obama’s speech is killer.
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killer good or killer bad?
Anybody Republican yell “you lie” or “say it don’t spray it” yet?
Hmmm, basketball or DC politics?
Nothing that exciting
Still some funny moments. Obama knows the story. The stone-cold lack of applause from the GOP and some funny reaction shots.
But I say killer good because I am a liberal. But I love republicans. Don’t hate!
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Since you're a liberal, did you know
that one of the two main creators of SBNation was Markos Moulitsas of Daily Kos after he was frustrated with how the San Francisco chronicle covered the Oakland A’s?
I did not know that.
Thanks for the tidbit.
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bad half
we got it going in the second kind of but two assists only come on stop being lazy and taking bad jumpers pass the ball…..
Obama is having a great speech btw
Another instance where Nene didn't run back
to protest a non-call and the other team gets a layup. Karl should threaten to bench Nene for a game if Nene doesn’t stop that (maybe the game against the Nets :))
GK wont
i’m pretty sure Karl is afraid of the players sometimes it sure seems that way no way he yells at nene
JR Smith
+/- is +15.
Crazy shot right there, though. What does he have against moving up a few feet?
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Birdman
has been great on the boards this quarter.
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When Kenyon Martin has an awesome put-back dunk in the 4th Q...
… the Nuggets are 5-0.
Fact.
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What's so funny?
I have learned to keep the sound down. It is barely audible.
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Big steel from JR
He’s having a great game two games removed from that drama.
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Note to all Nuggets:
If the Rockets mount a comeback run and you make a play ending with a dish off for a go-ahead shot, make sure you don’t follow through and charge anyone.
Julian from Australia
Bad foul Nene.
You never foul when you are protecting a lead.
Never.
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More like Bad Call
should have been a push off on Brooks. Two separate times, once to get open to get the ball and once when he extended that left arm to get space again.
EIGHT STRAIGHT
Has a nice ring to it. Let’s make it 9 straight on Friday.
Nope
I’ve been saying all season that OKC is due to beat Denver. It will happen Friday.
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Yeah, you're right
8-1 has a much nicer sound to it. And now I know for a fact we will lose on Friday because you just said so.
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 9:09 PM MST up reply actions
Ha ha
Trust me.
I hope I am wrong. The Nugz need all the wins they can get with this tough schedule.
Just being realistic. OKC play some mean basketball in the Ford Arena or whatever it is called. That team is going to be huge in the coming years. Not only do they have the best pure scorer in the league (sorry melo) but they have a ton of money to spend in the off season. Look out.
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Honestly, i think Melo is better than Durant RIGHT NOW
2-3 years from now, KD is probably better than Melo.
Will OKC be a great team for years to come? Ehh. I’m not sold. They have Durant, who is great. Green, Westbrook, Harden, and the Unspellable one all seem like role players at best. On the other hand, the Nuggets have Melo, who is great. They have Nene, who should be great. They have JR, who could be better than any of the four OKC role players. They have Ty Lawson, who is AWESOME. Let’s not forget that the Nuggets’ future is just as bright.
(By the way, I am very bitter about this. Having lived in Seattle during the Sonic years, the Sonics used to be my second-favorite team. Now I just wish for the team to fail miserably in OKC.)
by Uh on Jan 27, 2010 9:20 PM MST up reply actions
They have 3 more games
I’ll take the hottest team in the league over the team that just lost to Chicago at home.
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I didn't know about the Chicago home loss
But Chicago is hot lately.
And it will make OKC even hungier for a W. I hold by my prediction.
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You think OKC has payback
on their minds. Or Brooks is a better Coach.
If GK and CB1 due their due diligence the Nuggets will win
Solid win. especially after the terrible start
championship team like effort in the last 3 quarter’s, now lets beat OKC.
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from the last game
he took a shot going to the rim, right? it led to K-Mart’s ejection, I believe
by ParkHillNative on Jan 27, 2010 9:08 PM MST up reply actions
gerald wallace elbow on a post up-smith was playing defense
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
he bought kmart dinner on the plane
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
JR said Karl gave em a good talking to at half
but I thought he doesn’t actually coach…
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No be Karl he meant Karl
sometimes he needs to be given some credit, I know supporting a coach who’s team is 31-14 is tough sometimes.
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I suppose AAA was due a shit shooting game.
JR better though.
K-Mart another 15 boards!
Julian from Australia
aaa had 6 rebounds
and made both his free throws. he struggled shooting but did other things to help the team win.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
Good win
JR great game, Nene great game, Bird played well and Chauncey was Chauncey. Also liked Lawsons defense on Brooks in the fourth. Stop bashing JR and Nene people. This team is stacked.
True
But only 7 assists? Really? That’s unacceptable. The turnovers have to stop as well Sure, they won today, but you can’t win the NBA Title like that. I’m sure Karl will say something….or not.
Dude
All of the Nuggets assists lead to free throw attempts instead of buckets. in this case, 7 assists doesn’t mean the Nuggets weren’t passing, it just means they got most of their points from the free throw line and isolation posts ups that were super efficient (Nene in the 2nd and K-Mart in the 3rd most notably).
by snafu on Jan 27, 2010 10:49 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Overall a solid win.
Glad the team could pull it out, JR was huge. And how bout that K-mart put back? Yet the biggest reason why we won this game was because of our consistently hard defense to force the Rockets into difficult shots. That 31-14 record is looking awfully nice with the 2nd seed in the West, and only 3.5 behind LA. Go nuggs
I popped over to The Dream Shake thread
So about 60 or so comments. Most bitching about the refs covering the spread and handing the Nuggets the game. Honestly about half the comments are about the refs calls favoring the Nugs ! What a pathetic bunch. Go Stiffs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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