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Game 3: Nuggets 93 - Hornets 95

It's anybody's series

 

Had Carmelo Anthony made either of his last two shots to win the game for the Nuggets yesterday Denver would not have learned their lesson. A stinging loss to the Hornets may prove to be exactly the wake-up call the Nuggets needed after playing their worst game of the series.

The Hornets had/have basically one way to win games in this series and that is to turn the contests sloppy. And the Hornets were able to make yesterday's game a pig's paradise.

Yesterday's game featured 58 fouls (29 for each team) and 70 free throws (35 for each team.) It was just a very choppy game and one that never really allowed the Nuggets to get back into the rhythm they found in the game's first eight minutes.

In the opening eight minutes Denver carried out a great gameplan and carried over all the momentum from games one and two building a 22-6 lead. From there the Nuggets were outscored 44-25 in the first half (50-47 Hornets) and 89-71 for the rest of the game.

No matter what the final score says ... to me Denver lost 89-71. If yesterday's game was a boxing match you would have seen the Champ (Nuggets) come out swinging from the opening bell and connecting on a few good jabs and imposing his will on the Challenger (Hornets.) Everyone in the stands is just sitting and waiting for the knockout punch, but then ... it happens.

The Challenger in the closing ten seconds of round one out of desperation throws a looping left hook that connects right on the Champs chin sending him stumbling back to his corner ... (Denver up 22-6 ... then the Hornets closing the final 4 minutes on a 15-4 run ... 26-21 after the first.)

As the Champ comes out for Round 2 (the 2nd Quarter) you can just tell he's not right. Suddenly he's not using his much effective jab (attacking the rim) and the Challenger is slipping in punches on the suddenly cracked defense that you know if the Champ were on his game would be like the Berlin Wall.

You find yourself screaming, "Use the JAB ... THE JAB! WHY ISN'T HE USING THE JAB? That's what got him here! That sets up everything!"

And as the rounds wear on you realize you are witnessing the undoing of the title holder and it's not really because the Challenger is worthy ... it's that the Champ has gone away from his game and everything that earned him the right to hold the belt in the first place.

As the sting of watching your favorite fighter starts to fade a little you realize that he didn't get knocked out, he just lost a decision. And then you remember the best part ... there's a rematch clause!

And the Nuggets will get that rematch tomorrow night in Game 4 at 6:30 p.m. MDT on NBA TV or Altitude TV.

Heading into the rematch both teams know a little more about each other now and both teams have a few new tricks up their sleeves and adjustments to make ...

For the Hornets:

  • They have been getting stellar three-point shooting from Rasual Butler in this series. He's shooting 9-12 in the series and 7-9 in his last two games including 3-4 yesterday from beyond the arc. It might be a good idea for the Nuggets to start smothering Butler and stop allowing him open looks.
  • Sean Marks should be getting the majority of the minutes at the center spot for the Bugs. Tyson Chandler is not giving the Hornets anything except the hope that he can be effective, while Marks is actually the one who turned the tables down low yesterday. In games one and two Marks played just 15 combined minutes and had 4 points and 6 rebounds heading into yesterday's game. Chandler's foul trouble allowed Byron Scott the excuse to play Marks for extended minutes and he produced. In 26 minutes Marks put up 8 points, 6 rebounds (3 offensive), and turned in a +18 to Chandler's 2 points, 3 rebounds, and -9 in 18 minutes before fouling out. Marks should continue to be the primary center for the Hornets as he (being healthy) gives the Bugs the best big option.
  • Paul has to hope that George Karl continues to cut Dahntay Jones' minutes. Jones' minutes go ... 21, 20, to 17 yesterday. It's mind boggling as to why the most effective Paul defender continues to see his minutes shrink, but it's no surprise that Paul had his best performance in Jones' absence. With Jones on the floor Paul scored 14 points ... with Jones on the bench Paul put up 18 points. The math seems simple to me ... free Dahntay!

For the Nuggets:

  • Denver just took the Hornets' best shot and are still standing after having two opportunities to win the game late on Melo's rushed shot attempt and Melo's half court heave. The thought process for the Nuggets should be: They can't hurt us unless we let them. Play our game (defense and aggressive offense) and we'll win.
  • Nene layed a major egg in Game 3 putting up 2 points, 8 rebounds, and 3 steals before fouling out in 33 minutes. I know Beefyswats is very concerned about Nene as I'm sure many of us are. In an email exchange with Chris Tomasson of In Denver Times he thinks Nene's injured left hand may still be affecting him either mentally or physically as he pointed out Nene should be "totally dominating a gimp Chandler in this series." We need the rim rattling Nene back, but I don't know what can snap him out of his less-aggressive funk. I'm sure there is some fatigue there, but Nene has to get a second wind and let his nasty side come back out.
  • The Nuggets played right into the Hornets' hands by switching practically every pick-and-roll yesterday. Mismatches galore as Denver guards tried to cover the post with a big matched up one-on-one with Paul. Denver needs to get back to trapping Paul at times and fighting through the screens when they come ... switching only does the Hornets favors.
  • The rebounding was there yesterday as Denver won that battle 44-40 ... but if Marks is in the game the Nuggets have to lock him up and Denver needs to do a better job of not allowing offensive rebounds. The Hornets were only credited with 8 offensive rebounds yesterday, but I swear they had more off back taps and loose balls. The Nuggets seemed to give up crucial second chance opportunities and they must continue to box out and protect the glass going forward.
  • Team assists took a hit on the road as I feared they would. After putting up 25 and 26 assists in the first two games Denver only tallied 19 yesterday. When the Nuggets don't share the ball and go into jump shot mode they are in trouble on offense. When in jump shot mode Denver rarely has bodies in position for offensive rebounds and there is typically about 0.93% chance the Nuggets will follow their own shot on jumpers like they do on missed layups (which we all know by now ... Denver will miss roughly 415 layups per game.) Just think of all the missed jumpers you witnessed that had an extra pass had been made could have resulted in a layup and added to the assist total. If Denver gets to 20+ assists I can almost guarantee they'll win the game.

Views you can use:

  • The Nuggets last 2-0 series lead was in 1978 against Milwaukee. Denver lost Game 3 in Milwaukee, but won Game 4 and the series in seven games.
  • Denver found themselves down 0-2 in 2004 and 2006 to the Timberwolves and Clippers respectively. The Nuggets traveled home for Game 3 in each series and won to close the gap to 1-2. Those would prove to be the Nuggets' only wins in each series ... hopefully the Hornets will be resigned to that same fate. We'll find out Monday night!

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Let's be positive

We absolutely can win tomorrow’s game and then we won’t need to go back to NOLA.

Let’s just play defense, select well our shots, and make some FT’s, and the game is done.
I would also give some touches to Nene at the start so he can build some confidence for the rest of the game, would you not do this Nate?

GO NUGGETS

"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."

by Lucas Navarrete on Apr 26, 2009 12:02 PM MDT reply actions  

Do the math?

Just want to touch on a couple of issues with you, Nate. First, Dhantay Jones on Chris Paul. Let’s see, 14 points in 17 minutes against Jones = 0.82 points/minute for Paul. 18 points in 29 minutes against everyone else (Paul played 46 minutes) = 0.64 points/minute. I’m not sure what math you are using, but DP3 did better against Dhantay than against the rest of the Nuggets.

Second, the Hornets. Are you really naive enough to think you got the Hornets’ “best shot”? Not by a long shot. What really has happened is, the Hornets got Denver’s best shot in Games 1 and 2, still standing, and are right where they expected to be, despite playing terrible basketball. However, they now know they can beat the Nuggets, and as long as they continue to win at home, they have 2 more chances to steal one in Denver, especially if they actually decide to play even close to a real game.

Monday night is the key. If the Hornets win, then the monkey is on the Nuggets. A Denver loss on Monday, followed by a loss on Wednesday, and there may be no Game 7. Stay tuned.

by RobertM320 on Apr 26, 2009 2:29 PM MDT reply actions  

Though not specific I was speaking more about Dahntay matching up on Paul. Paul scored the first three buckets for the Hornets and I wouldn’t attribute them to Dahntay’s lack of defense.

It’s pretty well documented though the papers that Jones’ defense has been bothering Paul … Byron Scott is on record calling Jones “dirty” … that’s a good sign for Jones getting in Paul’s head. I’d just like to see Jones in the game more … that’s all.

Jones 20+ minutes per game Denver is 2-0.
Jones under 20 minutes … Denver is 0-1.
That’s the math.

Can’t wait for Game 4 … like I said “It’s anybody’s series” now.

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by Nate Timmons on Apr 26, 2009 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Jones

Jones only plays usually around 5 minutes in the 1st period, only sometimes 3 or 4 minutes in the 2nd, and another 4 or 5 in the 3rd.

He should play more, agree on that Nate.

"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."

by Lucas Navarrete on Apr 26, 2009 6:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Do the math?

Just want to touch on a couple of issues with you, Nate. First, Dhantay Jones on Chris Paul. Let’s see, 14 points in 17 minutes against Jones = 0.82 points/minute for Paul. 18 points in 29 minutes against everyone else (Paul played 46 minutes) = 0.64 points/minute. I’m not sure what math you are using, but DP3 CP3 did better against Dhantay than against the rest of the Nuggets.

Second, the Hornets. Are you really naive enough to think you got the Hornets’ "best shot"? Not by a long shot. What really has happened is, the Hornets got Denver’s best shot in Games 1 and 2, still standing, and are right where they expected to be, despite playing terrible basketball. However, they now know they can beat the Nuggets, and as long as they continue to win at home, they have 2 more chances to steal one in Denver, especially if they actually decide to play even close to a real game.

Monday night is the key. If the Hornets win, then the monkey is on the Nuggets. A Denver loss on Monday, followed by a loss on Wednesday, and there may be no Game 7. Stay tuned

by RobertM320 on Apr 26, 2009 2:38 PM MDT reply actions  

Good research there

But, hands down, CP3 hasn’t played that bad 2 games in a row never since 2 years ago when he was not an all-star.
Jones has guarded him pretty good in both first two games, and yes, CP3 woke up in Game 3, but that’s also thanks to Denver’s transition defense, which was poor.
In 1on1, when Jones was guarding Paul, he was not changing the game that much.

I think all the Nuggets fans will agree with me on this.

By the way, do you think the Hornets got the Nuggets’ best shot on Game 3? If you really think so… you better buckle up for Game 4 my friend…
When Nene makes 2 points, Melo is in 50% on FT’s and CB misses 2 FT’s… that is not Nuggets’ best shot…

Good luck for Game 4.

Go Nuggets

"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."

by Lucas Navarrete on Apr 26, 2009 3:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Agree, Game 3 not the best

Of course, I don’t think that was the Nuggets best shot in Game 3. In my opinion, with the exception of Anthony, the Nuggets played their best possible games in Games 1 and 2. Chances are, they won’t do that 4 times in the series.

I give Denver credit for holding CP3 down. His turnovers are unusually high every time against the Nuggets, to their credit. Five or six turnovers a game is unlike him. Its more like 14 assists and 1 turnover/game. But, the reason Denver’s transition defense was so poor in Game 3, was because CP3 pushed the ball more. That’s one thing most Hornets fans have questioned all year. Last year we would push the ball upcourt and get easy transition baskets. This year, even when down by alot, they slow the ball down and allow other teams to get into their halfcourt defense. If they would push it more, it creates more matchup problems for their opponents and allows players like Peja and DWest to shoot on rhythm, rather than spotting up.

Game 4 will be interesting.

by RobertM320 on Apr 26, 2009 3:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Nene

Nene is never the dominant force in the paint we expect him to be. He is a very nice big, but he does not dominate offensively or defensively. That’s why I’m confused when people say things like “he should be dominating the injured Tyson Chandler.” No. That’s not his game. He is a great man to man defender, a moderately skilled shot blocker and a one dimensional offensive guy. He is capable of playing the pick and roll very well, which he hasn’t done a great job of so far this season, and he has never been a very good post up offensive player. I have been a little disappointed by Nene’s inability to dominate but not nearly as surprised as some people seem to be.

by joshhopp on Apr 26, 2009 7:57 PM MDT reply actions  

I have to disagree on Nene ...

I don’t think Nene can be called a “one dimensional offensive guy” at all. He’s worked hard on his jump shot and it’s been falling pretty consistently this season. He has a pretty good array of moves in the post and can finish with either hand. He shows flashes of being very aggressive around the rim and has throw down plenty of powerful dunks this season in traffic and over guys.

Nene has even been known to go coast-to-coast off steals and has underrated handles. I’m not quite sure as to how he can be called one dimensional, but I will agree that his post game is not picture perfect – but Josh I think you underrate his offensive game. You also may be right that what we see if what we get with Nene, but I think with him finally being healthy we still will see some growth out of his game.

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by Nate Timmons on Apr 27, 2009 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree, I like Nene's jumper this season

He’s consistent from 10-14 feet out but the layups are just killing us. He’s been stripped, poked, blocked and misses way too often when he’s underneath and doesn’t throw it down.

Maybe he’s fatigued, as you hypothesized in an earlier post, from playing 77 games this season, Nate?

by Colin Neilson on Apr 27, 2009 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Perhaps fatigue is playing a role ...

Jeremy over at Roundball Mining Company talked about that as well the other day here.

I just don’t know what the reason is and I highly doubt you will here from Nene that he’s exhausted, but he almost has to be. His lift isn’t what it was earlier in the year and that could be why we are seeing him go for layups on tired legs instead of throwing down huge dunks like he is capable and should be doing.

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by Nate Timmons on Apr 27, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well,

Nene has had his best season he’s ever had offensively, so the fact that he’s suddenly struggling to find his game should be at least a bit concerning to you. You’re right in the sense that he is a fairly one dimensionsal post player and can’t really do more than an up-and-under/one handed dunk, but the fact that he continues to try and lay the ball in is really doing his stats and the team a disservice,

I am surprised. Chandler is injured, Marks is NOT on Nene’s level and we’re struggling. He has to start playing better or we have no shot against Nowitzski/Duncan/Yao/Bynum/Gasol in the next series – assuming we get past NOLA first. Which is a pretty big assumption.

by Colin Neilson on Apr 27, 2009 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

I just hope

we show some more heart and play harder in game four. Hornets were tough and deserved the last win, period. I thought we played pretty selfish in the second half and wasted too much time on offense. Nugs have to realize how hard it is to get a win against a team who is fighting hard with their whole city behind them. We just need more team play.

by runningdonut on Apr 26, 2009 9:47 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I was pretty disappointed in Chauncey's heave into the crowd at half

I know he was upset with the play to end it, but that was pretty unsportsmanlike and imo he was lucky to not get called for a technical.

Also, donut, you’re absolutely right – assists are the lifeblood of the Nuggets’ offense. Nate, any idea what the Nuggets W-L is when posting 20+ assists on the road? I’d bet it’s a fairly consistent trend.

by Colin Neilson on Apr 27, 2009 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

no more same old....

Having watched the nuggs quick disappearance in the last few season’s playoffs, game 3 was like a flashback. billups brought in more team effort and hustle. game 3 was a return to one-on-one offense with 4 nuggets standing around. I thought they learned. let’s see cuts and movement w/o the ball. And no more 1 guy trying to penetrate on double/triple coverage. They forget about that approach and move like they did in games 1 & 2, and we’ll be hosting dallas in no time….

by theyliveforbrains on Apr 27, 2009 1:48 PM MDT reply actions  

I hope we will be hosting Dallas, but nothing sure after Saturday's game man...

Let’s just win tonight so we don’t have to go back to NOLA…

Please Nuggets, do it, you can.

GO NUGGETS

"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."

by Lucas Navarrete on Apr 27, 2009 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

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