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How playoff seedings work

 

I was going to do a big breakdown on how teams will be seeded for the playoffs to refresh everyone because there are probably going to be some teams with identical records.

But cruising SB Nation allowed me to find this article by Dave over at Blazer's Edge. He explains the whole thing in great detail.

I'm still searching for an official breakdown of why the Nuggets are listed as the #3 seed and Houston the #4 seed even though the Rockets hold the season series over the Nuggets.

I've heard it is because the Nuggets are the division winner, but that s contrary to the tiebreaker breakdown on NBA.com listed below:

Tiebreakers
(1) Head-to-head
(2) Division record (if the teams are in the same division)
(3) Conference record
(4) Record vs. Playoff teams, own conference
(5) Record vs. Playoff teams, other conference
(6) Net points, all games

 

stay tuned ...

 

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I believe the first tiebreaker is always a division champ over a non-division champ. Pretty sure this has never come into play since the league changed how 1-4 is seeded. It would only effect the third and fourth seed, and they would have to have a tied record.

Seeding was initially changed a couple years ago to prevent scenarios where a clear #2 in the conference was also in the same division as the #1, but would be seeded at #4 because of the other division champs. They kept the division champ tiebreak in to leave at least a little reason to win your division, as it really doesn’t matter at all, unless you are tied like the scenario we currently might have, or the team has a worse record than the #5 seed but would still be seeded #4.

by cessair on Mar 31, 2009 5:10 PM MDT reply actions  

playoff seeding

I remember seeing this during one their games last week. The way I understood it was that since the Rockets are second in their division the tie-breaker goes to the division leader, in this case the Nuggets. If the Spurs were out of the picture, the Rockets would get the tie-breaker due to head-to-head.

Scenario 1:

  1. - Spurs 55-27
  2. - Nuggets 54-28
  3. - Rockets 54 -28

Scenario 2:

  1. - Rockets 54-28
  2. - Nuggets 54-28
  3. - Spurs 53-29

I could be wrong but this was my interpretation. It would be interesting to see what would happen if all three wound up with the same record. Rockets have the tie-breaker on the Nuggets, the Nuggets have the tie-breaker on the Spurs and the Rockets and Spurs are tied 2-2. My guess would be Rockets-Nuggets-Spurs.

by Battlecat on Mar 31, 2009 5:16 PM MDT reply actions  

If all three teams end up with the same record it doesn’t really change that much. #2 and #3 would be seeded as normal, first based on head-to-head then the other tiebreakers, since they would both be division champs. So, in the example with the Spurs/Nuggs/Rockets all having a tied record, it would be #2 Nuggs, and the Spurs and Rockets being #3 and #4 based on conference record. In reality, the Nuggs have the tiebreak over both the Rockets and Spurs, though for different reasons.

by cessair on Mar 31, 2009 5:28 PM MDT reply actions  

Thinking about it a little more, it’s a lot more complicated, and I could be wrong about how the seeds would go given a three way tie. Assuming that both the Rockets and Spurs would be considered “division champs” being tied for the SW division lead, it would actually be #2 Rockets, #3 Nuggets, and #4 Spurs since the Rockets have the head-to-head tiebreak over the Nuggs. If neither the Spurs or Rockets are “division champs”, since neither outright won, it would go per my previous post.

What’s really weird, is if they have to go to the Spurs/Rockets tiebreakers further down the list to determine a division champ. The Nuggets seeding as #2 or #3 would be determined by the division record of two teams that aren’t in their division.

by cessair on Mar 31, 2009 5:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Very interesting

Thanks for the breakdowns Cessair and Battlecat!

Such a crazy season and so many different scenarios. Hopefully none will come in to play and the Nuggets can take the #2 seed outright.

by Nate Timmons on Apr 1, 2009 9:07 AM MDT reply actions  

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