Welcome back, Birdman?... (Nuggets/Heat recap)
I'll happily take the Nuggets being on the right side of a blowout any day of the week. But it's extra special when the blowout comes during a fair fight.
Before we recap tonight's events, it should be noted that I - Andrew - is covering tonight's game and not my partner-in-crime Nate Timmons. So while blowout wins for our Nuggets tend to come on Nate's watch, let's hope my recent spate of jinxes has begun to reverse itself!
The other blowout win I covered recently was when the Nuggets clocked the Lakers a few Fridays ago. But as I alluded to at the time, that game wasn't a fair fight. Not only were the Lakers playing shorthanded, but they had to fly into Denver in the middle of the night coming off the late TNT game the Thursday before. (It should be noted that the Heat playing at the Lakers tomorrow won't be a fair fight for the Heat whatsoever. Tonight's game against the Nuggets started a half hour late, the Heat will have to travel to L.A. in the middle of the night and the Lakers have been off since Tuesday. Have I mentioned that the Lakers schedule is a fucking joke yet?)
Unlike that Lakers victory we can gloat for a while about tonight's conquest. The Heat had no excuse to show up flat: they're healthy, had plenty of time to acclimate to Denver altitude, had more than one day's rest and had confidently beaten the Trail Blazers in Portland on Tuesday. The Nuggets are just a hell of a lot better than their South Beach counterparts, and it showed.
I don't know about you, but I thought the story of the game tonight was the continued - and desperately needed - resurgence of Chris Andersen. For the second game in a row, the Birdman reminded all of us why I started the "Bring Back Birdman" petition last season: blocking and altering shots, grabbing big rebounds, finishing around the rim and generally wreaking havoc - in a good way - inside. And his bench mate J.R. Smith also brought back the energy and production that made the Nuggets bench so special last season. Now the question is whether or not they can replicate this production on the road. I've always felt like if the Birdman and J.R. are solar panels, then the Pepsi Center crowd is their sun.
Tonight's victory might also send a more profound message throughout the NBA than the Lakers victory did. What does it say to the rest of the league when Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups shoot horrifically (and indeed they did, even as Melo eeked his way to the 20-point plateau for the - gulp - 19th straight game!) and yet the Nuggets can still beat a playoff caliber team in a walkover? It says we have balance and when we play the game the right way, look out.
A few observations that I'm sure most of you noticed, too...
...you have to love J.R. dishing out a season-high six assists. Imagine if he starts embracing the pass?
...under the radar, Arron Afflalo is finding his role with the Nuggets and is becoming a major contributor. I couldn't be happier having him on the Nuggets.
...I was thrilled that George Karl picked up at technical foul early in the game when he sensed the Nuggets sluggishness, and even more thrilled to see Kenyon Martin hold his coach back by embracing him. But I have to admit I was a little disappointed that Karl didn't get himself kicked out alongside K-Mart when K-Mart got tossed in the second half. Given that the game was clearly over anyway, I'd have loved to see the two of them walking out the tunnel together a la Humphrey Bogart and Claude Rains in Casablanca.
...for those who watched the Celtics/Spurs game beforehand, are you as frustrated as I am that the Nuggets didn't draft DeJuan Blair when they had the chance in the second round? Even though the Nuggets were able to sell the draft rights to their second round pick (Sergio Llull) for a record price, they were being penny-wise and pound-foolish by passing on Blair (along with 28 other teams). Blair is yet another example in a long line of slightly undersized but gutty, tough power forwards who kicked ass in college and yet NBA teams routinely pass on (just a few off the top of my head: Carlos Boozer, Paul Millsap, Jason Maxiell, Leon Powe and Glen Davis). Damn I wish Blair was in a Nuggets uniform right now. I just can't shake it.
14-5. Pretty damn good. A few more victories like this, and the home loss to the Timberwolves will prove to be a wake up call, and not a trend.
Go Nuggets!
Photo courtesy of AP: David Zalubowski
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AI
hey Andrew what do you think about Playing AI on Monday? Im excited!
We have to get through the Spurs first...
But yes, Monday is going to be epic and I can’t wait! More to come on that matchup in the days ahead…
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by Andrew Feinstein on Dec 4, 2009 12:10 AM MST up reply actions
Birdman
Any word on Birdman’s knee? He looked like he was in pain before he came out.
I said it in the game thread, but have to say it again, I was thrilled with this win. Terrific defense and some great great ball movement. Seemed like the Nugs were getting beat on the boards, that might be my only complaint.
Great game all around.
As you said Andrew, the thing I am most excited about with this team, as opposed to any other Nuggets team, like EVER, is that our 2 best players can have slow nights and still dominate an opponent. When we play like that, we are capable of anything in this league.
-Birdman looked great, I hope his knee is good after he took that knock.
-Afflalo is getting better and better every game, he was the PERFECT pickup to fill the role that we needed. He shuts down the other teams best scorer damn near every game. Awesome. His offense is also significantly better and more consistent than Dahntay’s was, regardless of the numbers he is putting up on that bad Pacer’s team.
-Nene tends to catch a lot of flak from us fans for his lack of a perceived killer instinct. While I agree sometimes, and more so in the past, I think he is really rounding into a more solid and dependable player on both ends of the court. His defense (when our team decides to play it, together) is much improved from the last couple of years.
-Lawson. Because I haven’t been able to see all the games this season due to my living in south Texas, I haven’t been able to catch Ty throwing up the teardrop shot, ala Tony Parker. When you have a lightning quick guard who is capable of hitting that shot with regularity, it puts tremendous pressure on the other teams entire defense. Not only the opposing point guard who is charged with stopping someone to no avail, but the big men behind him who get frustrated at their incapability of swatting that ball as it floats over their fingertips and into the basket. Needless to say, I am elated that Lawson already has this weapon in his arsenal.
-I am still worried about Billups. I assume his struggles this season are only temporary and that his shot is just off at the moment. He is still tearing up point guards on the way to the hoop and drawing fouls, which is great. So I don’t think what we are seeing is a result of age, and that we still have considerable time left with him as our leader. I hope this is true, and he finds a way to get his stroke going again consistently, we’ll need him to get a good seed in the playoffs and obviously, during said playoffs.
-Best moment of the night: Kmart holding/hugging GK after he got his tech. It is clear that George has great rapport with the guys right now, and there is practically no drama within the team. A welcome departure from the stormy days with Melo and JR. I, for one, vote to quell all discussion about needing/wanting a new coach for the Nuggets. We have one of the best already, we should be thankful for that.
-This brings me to….. defense! We put on a defensive clinic out there tonight, with the exception of a couple lazy stretches early in the game. Again, when we play dogged defense, and play on offense the right way, without forcing shots and sharing the ball copiously, we are almost impossible to stop. I think if we can get more consistent with these kind of efforts especially on the road, we will end up the #1 or #2 seed in the West and in very good position to make a second consecutive trip to the Conference Finals. And frankly, with the talent we have on this team, we should expect no less.
Agree with everything
How far south are you? I’m anxiously awaiting snow here in austin. never thought i’d see the day. i’m still skeptical that it won’t just be freezing rain honestly.
I’m in Corpus! I’m surprised it’s not already snowing in Austin… I see you posted that early this morning so maybe it is by now… I know it is snowing in Houston. We have a chance to get some snow down here too, it would be awesome! Nothing like going to the beach and throwing down a bonfire in the snow.
To comment again on your indecision… Here’s another way to look at it:
Afflalo is a piece we HAD to have this year. He is essential to what we do as a team, even though he is a role player. I really don’t think we could be considered contenders without him. I look at Lawson as a really nice bonus that just makes us more dangerous.
fair enough
but I’m still chucklingn over Lawfflalo
by ParkHillNative on Dec 4, 2009 1:58 PM MST up reply actions
The only reason I checked the blog tonight...
was to see who was doing the recap and if the trend continued.
It didn’t:
So while blowout wins for our Nuggets tend to come on Nate’s watch, let’s hope my recent spate of jinxes has begun to reverse itself!
Good job Nuggets. Watch out for the Spurs. They just lost at home and are going to be hungry to get better. The next game could be one of the best of the season. Spurs 98 to 97.
I hope I’m wrong.
Haha.
“So while blowout wins for our Nuggets tend to come on Nate’s watch, let’s hope my recent spate of jinxes has begun to reverse itself!”
I can’t shake the feeling that you just jinxed it again! :P
But I did make a point to come back and check for the recap after tonights game, just to see who did it. Haha.
That's a great wrap-up
Scents from last years playoffs wrap-ups. Awesome solar-panel/sun regarding smith and the bird.
ANDREW: Quick question: are we seeing JR re-emerge recently because it mightve taken this long after the suspension for him to get back in the flow? AND is JR cool coming off the bench as opposed to starting as was predicted before the season? I only ask BECAUSE I don’t want JR to start complaining about not startng therefore starting a rift in the chemistry….
Thanks for your thoughts!
Go nuggets! CANNOT WAIT FOR THE SPURS! They’re my favorite games to watch aside from lakers….was considering “sternfluffsspurs” for a while…not as catchy and might cause confusion…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 4, 2009 1:18 AM MST via mobile reply actions
i know you directed that question at Andrew and all, but I figured I would chime in with my thoughts….
I get the feeling that JR is used to coming off the bench, and relished the opportunity to come in and change the pace of the game off the bench and be a menace to the other teams second unit. He also ends up playing big minutes anyway, and is in to end the game if it’s close. I look at it as the same situation as Ginobili with the Spurs. Yes he comes off the bench, but is he their 6th or lower best player? Nope.
I hear what your saying and think the same
But you never know with these guys! Look at AI. Refuses to come off the bench even tho he’d be getting more minutes than most of the starters…there’s a lot of ego/pride and “status” things in this game…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 4, 2009 1:55 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Definitely. I think the difference in this situation is that JR has always come off the bench for us, while AI is a complete prima donna who has always expected to be the man.
I guess there could come a point where JR causes a fuss because he wants the start, but I think he is comfortable and accepting of his role, and I don’t see it changing, with the exception of Afflalo going down with an injury.
9 player rotation
with 8 players denver was using a 3 guard offense to give melo a rest. this maybe a reason billups struggles at times with his outside shooting. nothing wrong with a 3 guard or a 2 point guard offense. nuggets were doing it too much. last time denver played miami smith was out and kmart got hurt. no matter if it is an 8 or 9 player rotation this is the difference when smith and kmart are a part of it.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
Jeez I know
I was watching the Spurs lose before the game started and couldn’t stop thinking about how great our team would be if things had worked out differently and we’d chosen Blair. He AND Lawson together would have been electric! Great write up by the way, I almost think that protecting the Wade domination streak is more important that being the first team in a LONG time to lose to the Timberwolves. The Heat were in it early and The BirdMan just SHuT TheM DoWN!
GO NUGGETS!
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 4, 2009 1:22 AM MST reply actions
Andrew
It’s too soon to evaluate Blair as a pick. The concerns about him are health related. If he can make it through 2 seasons without a major injury, then you can start your serious grumbling. Besides, a 6’4" PF doesn’t really solve the Nuggets defensive big man needs (obviously the rebounding would be awesome).
casablanca..classic
great post andrew… I think if they had of walked out ala casablanca, well we all know who would be humphry in that picture (lol). I agree, games like this show how scary the nuggets can be, when their 2 of their 3 best scorers cant find the bottom of the net, and the game still isnt close. Its about attacking the rim. I think chancy did a good job of getting to the free throw line, but if melo isnt shooting at least 10 free throws a night, he is doing what he does best. Ah well those are tiny issues. All in all i think it was a very good game for the nuggets. Lets go nuggs.
Likes:
- One thing I took notice and am happy about is Birdman’s shooting (free throw or general) he looks like he retools his form and it works for him especially on the stripe. He’s now shooting rainbows from the stripe and swishing through net (not touchin the rim). He’s slowly becoming the Birdman of last season again, protecting the rim and changing shots… hope his knee is fine.
- Lawson’s defense continues to impress… his footwork on defense is just as impressive as when he pushes the ball on offense. I believe it’s Lawson’s defense that has convinced Karl he gets playing time over Carter.
- KMart looks better finishing around the rim this season, keep it up!
- Afflalo is becoming my favorite Nugget… he never lets playing hard… I don’t know what he wants so bad, but he plays like that on both ends of the floor, esp defense and offense during garbage time lol… But this guy totally increases the intensity, “seriousness”, and focus of the game for us. He’s rock solid.
- Melo, he is getting better and better. I rarely praise Melo and was his toughest critic Nugget fan around pre-Chauncey era. I acknowledge I often took Melo’s performance for granted… he’s doing great this season, without a doubt MVP caliber season. He’s not forcing the issue, he moves the ball, he plays defense some, he is physical, the main thing is he is not forcing the issue…
- Nene’s defense in the paint.
Dislikes:
- Chauncey’s overall awareness is a bit off ever since that Laker series, is it aging? He’s fumbling passes, defensive assignments, chucking threes with hands in his face… and he just doesn’t have speed or explosiveness to get by his defenders. I think to sum it up, he lacks sense of urgency out there it seems at times.
- At times, J.R. just plays too casual, he could have got the ball in loose ball situations, but didn’t because he’s too casual and relaxed… I wouldn’t say he’s lazy or didn’t play with energy… but he lacks sense of urgency at times.
agree completely with you
It’s good you mentioned Chauncey in your dislikes. I know he was a big part of Nuggets success last year, but that doesn’t mean everyone should treat him like a perfect player or the smartest player in the world. He should still be held accountable for his actions even though he is such a good leader
Yeah on second thought, I wouldn’t say it’s lacking sense of urgency either… but at times, even for 2-3 secs, his mind seems to be somewhere else, doesn’t see defenders, leaving his man, what’s that fouling James Jones on three pt shot? He knows he can put his hands up but not getting close and closer… it’s bound to get a call.
Coming from Chauncey it’s kind of shocking, but it’s not at a level of concern, or panic, it’s just those 2-3 secs sleep-walking can cost possessions and eventually games.
by SnakefromHell on Dec 4, 2009 7:23 PM MST up reply actions
I was a Dejuan Blair hater...
…and I wouldnt admit that the Nugs should have drafted him. But now I must admit that he’s kinda nice.
Substitutions
Question:
When the Nuggets are up big in the 4th quarter (like last night) why doesn’t GK bring in the bench players (specifically Allen and Petro) sooner and rest his 3 big men? Appeared Bird logged way too many minutes (28) and now re-aggravated his knee tendinitis.
This has been Karl’s way of doing business for a long time. I bring back the brawl against the Knicks when Isiah got pissed because Karl still had the starters in the game and were up by 19 points with under 2 minutes left.
Why doesn’t he take the starters out sooner, keep them fresher down the stretch and to avoid injury?
I think it is because he’s seen them blow leads so many times in the past. Petro was sitting at the scorers table for about three minutes (nothing happened to stop the game clock) when he went back to the bench because he knew there would be a timeout at the next dead ball. So he didn’t get in nearly as soon as Karl had intended.
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
Don't know what it looked like at
the Pepsi Center, but on the telly it looked like GK was having too good of a time watching K-mart’s theatrics with the ref to actually get involved. Either that or he was disgusted. It’s hard to tell what that smirk means sometimes.
I agree, Birdman looked good last night. Let’s hope it continues.
Haha
Didn’t the Nuggets actually draft Leon Powe?
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
Well, they drafted him for the Celtics ...
Denver Stiffs.com: Defending the sovereignty of Nuggets Nation.
Right, right
but still goes down in the annals of draft history as an original draft pick of the Nuggets =p
I thought you knew that algebra was all razzamatazz. A Globetrotter always saves the good algebra for the final minutes.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 4, 2009 4:15 PM MST up reply actions
Nene's passing
Besides Gasol and Duncan, Nene has got to be one of the best passing big men around. And you had to love the steal to coast-to-coast layup. He’s impressive.
I’m lamenting not picking up Blair too. He has insanely quick ups. The Nuggets could use his rebounding bad…
He's 4th
behind Duncan, Gasol and the Cambyman. He’s also 2nd in steals behind non other than the Cambyman. Man, would it be nice to see Nene and Camby team up these days.
Gotta agree with everyone
Loving Nene’s game, very concerned with Chauncey’s.
As much as Nene and Carmelo have stepped up, Chauncey has stepped down. Both Nene and Carmelo are becoming incredibly good at finding their cutting teammates, shutting down offense in the paint, and generally being good finishers around the rim even when it seems like there’s no shot.
Chauncey, on the other hand…
He’s just looked…off. Sure, he still manages to get himself 12-16 ppg, but his shot selection and passing game is just atrocious. Jacking up a contested 30ft 3 with 12 seconds on the shot clock, really, Chauncey? That’s JR Smith level shooting there.
I’m not seeing the same dagger shots, the same heady passing the same control of the game that he once had, and it’s worrying. Still, I’m confident that he will be able to fix whatever’s broken as the season progresses and in time for the playoffs.
It sure is comforting that we have one of the best young guards in the LEAGUE as his backup, though. Thanks for helping ease a lot of the concern, Ty. :)
Swats.
It's interestung
I actually think this is Cbills MO. He’s never flashy or incredible in the beginning of seasons…it’s almost as if he is molding/listening to the way this team, this year, on the court, on a given night. Cause, no matter how you look at it this team is different than last years. Period. I think like everyone else, Chauncey is trying to find his place. That might explain the wierd “JR like” shot selection. You know? Or the turnovers.
OR maybe he is making others step up as emotional on the court leaders by treating himself like a role-player therefore forcing someone else to make the pass or stop the ball or….does that make ANY sense?
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 4, 2009 2:03 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Finally
You said something that makes sense and is probably right!
I knew I could do it!
Thanks brother.
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 4, 2009 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
He said
according to my friend because I didn’t hear it very well, “That’s fuckin bullshit”. If thats true, I can see why he got ejected.
Hmmmm...
David Stern’s kinder, gentler NBA is really fucking irritating. Do we really expect NBA players to say things like: “That’s gosh darn garbage!” or is it that we do not want them to question the officials regardless of verbiage?
Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
Yrah
What is the deal? We don’t wanna hear ANY professional athelete swear or a coach or a fan sitting in the stands…because? Children. Believe me I get it. But it’s not helpful as an example. We’re teaching kids, on some level, “don’t care too much, or you’ll get in trouble even if your right”…
Backwards logic, I know, but in this world we live in, we’ve got to be a little more realistic.
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 4, 2009 2:10 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
JR's shot selection
Couldn’t watch the game but the box score would indicate JR had a great night with 6 assists and average shooting. I see he only attempted six tres, but want to know: was he just on and hucking them up from several feet behind the arc? I want to know if his shot selection is getting any more, um, wise.
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 4, 2009 9:36 AM MST reply actions
Shot selection...
Some of us have hinted at it but I think that it is becoming more evident each night, win or lose, close game or blow out: THE NUGGETS NEED SOME SHOT SELECTION DISCIPLINE! Nobody is excluded and, unfortunately, Chauncey is our biggest culprit for the same reason that JR might be our next biggest – trying to shoot themselves “hot.” I have never minded “heat check” shots because “the ZONE” is a real place and you never want to be conservative when you are there. The opposite just isn’t true! Very, very, very few players are capable of shooting themselves hot (granted, Chauncey has been one of them for many years.)
Hey Nuggets! Good win last night. Truly. But here’s a little hint from an old baller currently living vicariously through you guys: SCORE – STOP – SCORE is a 4 point sequence! Put two of these together and you just went on an 8-0 run using nothing but the law of averages, a pinch of defense and some disciplined shot selection. You currently have the best pure scorer in the NBA (and maybe ever!) why launch 3s at the top of shot clocks? That same pure scorer has gone to the foul line more than anyone in the NBA. I, for one, like the odds on free shots better than three shots…
Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
by Big Mickey D on Dec 4, 2009 10:20 AM MST up reply actions
JR's shooting
… was really good and in the flow of the game.
A lot of his missed shots came at the end of the game when he was playing with the bench players and heaving ill-advised threes. And I can live with those kind of shots when you are up 20 points.
I remember checking the box during the third quarter and JR was shooting over 50% from the field and 3/4 from behind the arc.
Box scores are great, but they don’t tell you much about the flow of the game, you know? He had a very solid night, I would say. As did Andersen.
Yeah, I know they can be misleading, that’s why I asked. Thanks for taking the time; it drives me wild when I can’t watch the games for myself.
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 4, 2009 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
Only attempted 6 treys?
That’s a lot, for anyone not named Granger.
You're absolutely right
I’m conditioned to think that’s not many when it’s Earl.
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 4, 2009 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
Chauncey's play
…has definitely been a little lacking. But let’s try to remember that this guy is a veteran, an old pro who has played LONG seasons (conf. finals) for what? 6 straight years? I think partially he is sort of saving himself/slowly playing himself into shape for the second half of the season and the playoffs. Our team is so talented he knows that he can try to take some dagger 3’s and try to run the score up so he can get some rest, because if he misses we can overcome with all of our weapons. Maybe he’s trying to shoot himself out of this slump.
That said, his shot selection is pretty bad right now, I hope he gets back to being our ‘floor general’ soon. It’s good to be able to say that our biggest (offensive) problem right now is our smartest veteran’s shot selection, and we all know he can do better.
Chauncey's shots
I don’t like a lot of those shots either, but taking shots is the way to find your shot.
I’m guessing he and GK have discussed this matter…
I love when the Nugs play this way
They are going to need Melo when the team is tired and not playing well but they are at their best when he scores 20 to 25 points. Almost every shot the Nugs took last night was a good shot and they made the Heat do the opposite.
I was at the game and couldn’t believe the foul calls they were giving Wade in the second half. I imagine that may be the reason for the ejection of Kmart as he had enough of the one sided calling for Wade. Kmart was blowing up the stat sheet in the third quarter and playing one of his best halves of the year before he had enough of the terrible calls by the refs.
Nene, Birdman, and JR were on point big time last night. Those three along with a little help from everyone else put their foot on the Heat’s throat and didn’t take it off till garbage time. What a win!
Agreed
The Nuggets have never been a team that needs to give one guy 25 shots a game to win. Last year was a down year for Melo scoring-wise and it was one of the best Nuggets teams ever. When other players see the ball move on offense it raises the whole teams level of play. There are way for Melo to expand his game without trying to turn himself into 2006’s Kobe Bryant. It honestly has been cringe-worthy watching him Lebron his way through certain games and whine like a bitch when he doesn;t get a call on every trip down. There’s no reason the Nuggets shouldn’t be able to win when Melo scores 30, but they are at their best when other guys get going and high scoring games for Melo are a bonus. Melo is a great player but some of the reasons I have been so frustrated with this teams play is he seems to think too highly of himself in certain, the whole team is guilty of thinking too highly of themselves and not playing as hard as they should be. It’s a team game, the Nuggets are an amazing team when they play as they did last night
by runningdonut on Dec 4, 2009 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
I agree too
And now I’m wishing for them to take what they did last night on the road with them. They should be thinking of the next game in San Antonio as a playoff game, like they did when the Lakers came to town.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 4, 2009 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
I was at the game and...
The Karl technical with K-Mart holding him back was classic. I honestly felt like that was a moment that helped us peek into their relationship truly being fully mended. It was great theater that I wish we could see more of too.
great team game....
good balance… birdman was great…. but too many Ts this season between melo, kmart and karl…. lets get that under control…. besides that, keep it up nuggz
also like to add
afflalo is amazing… he has such a high bball IQ and makes great decisions… but the best thing about him is that he is on a long cheap contract…. hes ours for a long time… i love it… and unlike birdman and jones… we will have his bird rights to him so we could sign him…
Imagine Blair guarding Gasol or Bynum he will be abused
Blair is to short to guard long PF And C like Pau and Bynum
Hey Guys would you trAde K-MART for Elton Brand?
the 76ers Are trying to trAde BrAND
no trading bigs
why would we trade one of our bigs for another? what we really needs is a fourth legit big.
Not sure
we even need another big. If Nene can keep up his recent play throughout the year we will be very tough for any team to handle.
we need another big as injury insurance
if even one goes down, we are in real trouble
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 4, 2009 4:31 PM MST up reply actions
Plus I really like this roster
I thought the Celtics roster was nasty but man we are stacked too. I dont want to see any changes made.
chauncey's shot selection
isnt the only thing that bothers me. he doesnt play D. is he excluded from playing D?
U're stoned
Which is ok but if you think 1 can’t play d then you are smoking some bad shit. Dude was the leader of the Pistons’ champ team. Maybe the best defensive team in history. You can’t even begin to suggest that the starting point guard on such a team can’t play defense…

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