Game 30 Preview & Thread: Nuggets at Blazers (8:30pm MDT)
by Andrew Feinstein on Dec 25, 2009 10:54 AM MST
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PrintDenver Nuggets at Portland Trail Blazers, Dec 25, 2009 8:30 PM MST
Denver fans will be looking for some much needed Christmas cheer tonight as the Nuggets attempt to break their four-game road losing streak against one of the better teams in the NBA: the rival Portland Trail Blazers.
First off, why does the NBA and their network partners insist on ruining big events by having Mariah Carey involved? I'm all fired up to watch today's NBA penta- (is that right?) header, and I just had Carey shoved down my throat in the opening teaser and seen her during every other commercial break. This is reminiscent of when Carey almost single handedly ruined Michael Jordan's final All-Star Weekend when she serenaded him while wearing that atrocious half Bulls/half Wizards jersey.
Check that, she did ruin it. Bah! Humbug!
But I digress...
In the fifth game of today's penta-header, our Nuggets get to spend their holiday in enemy territory: Portland, Oregon. As everyone who follows the NBA - and especially Nuggets fans - knows, the Blazers have been decimated by injuries. Centers Greg Oden and Joel Pryzbilla are done for the season with destroyed knees, star guard Brandon Roy has a sore shoulder (and may not play tonight), and forwards Travis Outlaw (foot) and Nicolas Batum (shoulder) and guard Rudy Fernandez (back) are all out tonight. Even head coach Nate McMillan is recovering from an Achilles tendon rupture which prevents him from working the sidelines.
And yet the Blazers - so overly loaded with talent that they could start two separate starting fives when healthy - went into San Antonio on Wednesday and won behind 31 points from Jerryd Bayless. I watched that game and the Spurs color announcer (Sean Elliott, I believe) commented in the first minute on how the injured Blazers are like a wounded animal backed into a corner and are to be feared as a result. So true.
Unlike our Nuggets - who are 1-5 in games with a missing starter due to injury - the undermanned Blazers have rattled off three straight impressive road wins: at Miami, at Dallas and at San Antonio (that's not a typo). And they've won five of their last six, including a pair of home victories over the dangerous Suns and suddenly dangerous Kings. I hate to sound like Scrooge here, but while our Nuggets make excuses with their injuries, the Blazers just win games.
Back when our rival Blazers were fully stocked, however, the Nuggets impressively beat them at Portland on October 29th as the second of a back-to-back to open the season. Carmelo Anthony was spectacular that night, scoring 19 fourth quarter points en route to a 41-point night serving notice to everyone that he's an MVP candidate this season.
But what we thought was a victory that would set the tone for future Nuggets road play has proved to be an aberration, as the Nuggets are now 6-8 away from Pepsi Center since that game. And thanks to those four straight road losses, even a more-than-solid 20-9 record for Denver can't keep Portland at bay. The Blazers linger just two games behind in the division and will be one game back if they best Denver tonight. There's no such thing as a must-win at this point in the season, but tonight's game is a damn important one and there's no way to sugarcoat it.
Like the Blazers, the Nuggets could be underhanded tonight, too. Whether or not Chauncey Billups plays is being reported as a "game-time decision" and the same goes for Roy. The Nuggets finally won a game sans Billups when they clocked the Hawks at Pepsi Center on Wednesday, but there was no doubt that the Hawks - who were wrapping up a three-game road trip and had played the night before - already had visions of sugar plums dancing in their heads.
Lets hope our Nuggets pass on the eggnog and don't eat too much turkey today. We could really use a Christmas victory tonight.
Blazers Stiffs
Greg Oden and Joel Pryzbilla's knees: Oden and Pryzbilla aren't Stiffs when they play, but as mentioned above each is done for the season due to major knee injuries, all but guaranteeing that the most Portland fans can hope for is a feel-good Rockets-type season. WIthout Oden or Pryzbilla, the Blazers won't do any real damage in the playoffs.
Andre Miller: The former Nugget point guard was signed to a three-year, $21 million contract by Portland in the offseason and rewarded them by showing up at training camp out of shape and averaging career lows across the board in shooting percentage (40.1%), points (11.2), assists (4.3) and steals (0.8). Way to go, Andre.
Martell Webster: Webster deserves credit for coming back from a season-ending foot injury, but he still can't shoot straight, making just 37.2% of his field goal attempts.
Blazers Non-Stiffs
Jerryd Bayless: Buried on the bench for much of his time in Portland, Bayless is making the most of his opportunities with injuries to his teammates opening up playing time for the talented guard. Bayless unloaded on the Suns for 29 points a week ago and 31 on the Spurs this past Wednesday. Don't sleep on Bayless.
Brandon Roy: Even though his numbers are basically stagnant compared to last season, Roy remains on my NBA "Alpha Dog" list - i.e. guys who will put the team on their back and win a game for you, even when the chips are down. This list includes (in no particular order) Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Tim Duncan, Paul Pierce, Steve Nash, Roy and now Melo, too. That's it.
LaMarcus Aldridge: His numbers are down a bit, but that's because Oden was producing while healthy. In Oden's absence, Aldridge has stepped up and is even grabbing some rebounds, too! (Aldridge remains a woefully poor rebounder considering his size.)
Opposition's Take: Blazers Edge
Photo courtesy of AP Photos: Tony Gutierrez
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it might just be me but i would include kobe bryant in the list.
That was a typo...
He’s up there!
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by Andrew Feinstein on Dec 25, 2009 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
Adding on to the list
Wouldn’t Chris Paul, and Deron Williams fit that list too?
not yet
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by Andrew Feinstein on Dec 25, 2009 5:55 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
keys to the game
oden and pryzbilla being out may work to the blazer’s advantage. aldridge matched up against nene is a problem for denver. nuggets guards will determine the outcome. collectively they need to outplay portland. smith needs to stay under control. there is nothing wrong with taking a 3 pointer within the context of the offense. earl gets carried away he can misfire denver right out of the game. look for both line ups to go small for long stretches of the game. i hope denver’s coaching staff saved the memphis rebounding highlights.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
there may be a santa claus...
Lakers down 20 to cleveland at home? Life is good. Merry christmas everyone! I asked santa to send us gortat and matt (tats like a nugget) barnes for christmas.
by adub on Dec 25, 2009 4:17 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I've had a very merry Stiffmas!
By far the best present I got (or the best reaction from a present I got) was a box labeled “To: Kalen, From: Karl”. Being that there were no Karl’s in my family I was a bit perplexed at the origin from where this gift came from. But, I continued on with opening the present, and to my surprise, inside was a bag of cough drops! I thought it was a pretty funny gesture by Santa. I also received a Nuggets old school Ty Lawson jersey and Bill Simmons new book which I can’t wait to read. The only thing that could top this day off would be a win by the Nuggets.
Good preview
Merry christmas Denverites.
"Oden is a man among cub scouts."
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST
Hope everyone else has been having as nice a day as me
This seems to me like a good game for the Nuggets to really show something about what they’re made of. If they can play hard and win tonight, a lot of other bad losses this year will be easier to forgive.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 7:49 PM MST via mobile reply actions
That graphic of Portland injuries is somewhat comical
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exactly. the outside game is pretty and all, but I think it should be reserved for when the Nugs want to pull away with it
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Arrrgh
Poor rebounding is driving me crazy
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 9:39 PM MST via mobile reply actions
How'd that work out for you?
Nice for Roy to bring it for us tonight. Matched what Melo did back in october minus some of the 4th quarter heroics.
Happy Melo is in the MVP conversation for you guys….just hoping performances like this elevate Brandon Roy into that top tier aswell (where he should be after the month he has had).
Chad Ford on Oden, "He's definitely a defensive force... I don't think he'll ever put up the big numbers that Shaq did. But he could be the best big man defender in the league... frankly, having a 7 footer that can do that will produce more rings than a 6-11 small forward who can score 30 ppg. That was the thinking all along why GMs preferred Oden to Durant. KD is the sexier player and as an offensive player there is just no comparison. KD is great. Oden is aspiring to average. But defensively, Oden could be dominant. KD ... not so much."
Could have said it better myself. Thanks Mr. Ford!
and nene letting roy score a J in his face.
just wow… what a way to end the half
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 9:42 PM MST reply actions
2nd chance points
How many did the Blazers have in the half? Too many.
Roy’s got serious game, no doubt about that.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 9:43 PM MST via mobile reply actions
We always allow teams 2nd chance points
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 9:46 PM MST up reply actions
I don't get to watch very often
Had no idea it was such a problem.
Really dispiriting to see them work hard on defense, force a bad shot, but not get the rebound and end up giving away points on the possession anyway.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 9:53 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
If they beat us with jumpers
It’s our own damn fault for not taking it to them inside. Lawson and Bird need more minutes
Yeah, AA is not stopping Roy, so put Lawson or JR in, and get Martin out of there or it will end badly...
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 9:45 PM MST up reply actions
Naw, you gotta keep Afflalo on Roy
He’s really our only chance.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 9:47 PM MST up reply actions
Afflalo has the best chance
But don’t talk like that. Your a Nugs fan remember?
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 9:52 PM MST up reply actions
I think they should do some double-teams on Roy
nobody else is doing much for them.
Heck, he’s got more than half their points…
portland goes with a small lineup
bring in graham to guard roy.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
unless martin stops shooting Js, he is a CANCER
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:04 PM MST reply actions
just ridiculous
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:07 PM MST up reply actions
I don't think its up to him.
These refs are from the Donaghy School of Reffin’!
by Verbal Kint on Dec 25, 2009 10:10 PM MST up reply actions
fucking BS refs
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:09 PM MST reply actions
As if on cue
He gets stuffed
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:11 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Can feel it slipping away here
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:10 PM MST via mobile reply actions
ok lets do this.
When Melo is doubled, portland knows there is no trouble, bc carter isnt gonna do SHIT
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:12 PM MST reply actions
OK- home cookin's in full effect!
Thats a given. Now, pull Melo & Carter. Bring in JR & Lawson, double Roy at every chance.
2nd one
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:13 PM MST up reply actions
Birdman has been destroying shit so far
Did u see the first half?
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 10:14 PM MST up reply actions
what the hell happened with Martin should say
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:16 PM MST up reply actions
AC+Afflalo
We need at least 1 guard in the game who can consistently make plays. These two paired in the backcourt is disastrous. Especially with Melo limited by fouls. I think a Lawson/Afflalo and AC/JR combo would have more punch and would play more consistant D.
Did I miss something?
Is Chauncey hurt again?
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:17 PM MST via mobile reply actions
He is not 100%
Lawson all of a sudden has been banished
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 10:18 PM MST up reply actions
Because George Karl's an IDIOT!
any questions?
by Verbal Kint on Dec 25, 2009 10:20 PM MST up reply actions
Bad coaching
When rebounding and inside scoring are your weakness, AC is the only answer. Duh
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 10:20 PM MST up reply actions
roy scooling NBAs top defender AC
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:20 PM MST reply actions
Roy or Bayless will destroy AC all night
He should not be playing, Lawson was effective
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 10:21 PM MST up reply actions
Because George Karl's an IDIOT!
any questions?
by Verbal Kint on Dec 25, 2009 10:26 PM MST up reply actions
I agree with GN
Hate her music, but love ogling her.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:54 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
AC, Lawson, Smith, K-Mart, Birdman
I’m actually glad they’re still up two after having that lineup on the floor for the last couple of minutes.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:28 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Take AC out of that lineup
And I really like it. Lots of energy guys.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 10:29 PM MST up reply actions
It's time to pull Carter
Anyone would be tired after playing this long? What the fuck is GK thinking?
this game is intense
reminding me of the last one in portland
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 25, 2009 10:33 PM MST reply actions
Melo
Maybe cool it with the fadeaways for a while.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:34 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Im starting to accostume...
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:37 PM MST up reply actions
Yep
There was some more terrible.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:40 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Balzers
Sometimes tonight these guys are looking unbeatable, sheesh.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:38 PM MST via mobile reply actions
No
It’s bad coaching. AC playing the whole 3rd quarter, No Afflalo on Roy
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 10:40 PM MST up reply actions
YEah
Those corner 3’s are just killing me though.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:42 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
yup
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
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Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
JR!!!!!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
yes
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:43 PM MST up reply actions
We are going to lose this game if we don't get tough,
start laying some hard hits, and playing tough defense. That was the staple of our team last year that got us to the wcfs, and it has been absent all season this year for some reason.
Definaly looks that way
but there’s still time. I got hope tonight being that it’s Christmas!
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 10:45 PM MST up reply actions
Gotta weather this somehow
& get back in it
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:43 PM MST via mobile reply actions
haha good one
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:44 PM MST up reply actions
Not my coach
GK did not even give us a chance to win in the 2nd half. I’m done with this, the only thing I can look forward to this year is getting a new coach at the end of it. Pathetic
oh come on..
we have plenty of time…don’t give up yet!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
yeah, we still have Nenes dunks!
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:45 PM MST up reply actions
YEAH!!!!!!! DUNK!!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Amazing
How long the Nugs stayed in it without him, actually.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:47 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Roy won't let em lose tonite.
Nene’s nowhere to be found, JR is up-n-down, & Karl’s coaching like its the JV! Melo’s shackeled w/ foul trouble, & no one’s stepped up!
All I have to say is
the refs are calling tick tack fouls on the nuggets and not the Blazers. They are calling it very one sided in favor of the Blazers
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 10:46 PM MST reply actions
agree
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
George Karl
Who thinks he should get an extension now? You guys are ridiculous, we cannot take the next step until he is gone
this
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
there is a reason he has not gotten that
extension yet
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 10:48 PM MST up reply actions
Gotta say
for the first time EVER, I have been really impressed with Roy. I have always thought he was really overrated but I got some respect for him tonight,
Bullshit
Roy is a legitimate idiot. The amount of contact this guys initiates…you’re an idiot.
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:06 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed he should get
a lot more offensive fouls called on him
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:08 PM MST up reply actions
Whoa, blazer fan here
I never comment on other boards, but that Melo’s whole deal. No hate when I say that. It’s just bball, but Melo bodies up in many, many ways to use his size. He initiates tons of contact. How can you hate on that?
Wouldja look at that
He can dunk
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:48 PM MST via mobile reply actions
gotta have a stop right now
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
ugh...who left him in the corner!!!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Nother corner 3
Makes me feel so stabby
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:51 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I can I say I hate Portland all around
not just the team but the state
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 10:51 PM MST reply actions
Portland is a state? :P
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
lol
there is nothing there. Just the state no one cares about above Cali
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 10:52 PM MST up reply actions
finally admitted it...
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:52 PM MST up reply actions
Come on
It’s Christmas, I was trying to have that “christmas spirit” ya know?
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 10:53 PM MST up reply actions
it is not happening man...
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:53 PM MST up reply actions
nowTHAT was a flop...
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
nuggets by fffaaaarrrrr worst rotations and defensive awareness in the L
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 25, 2009 10:52 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Silver lining
George Karl will not get his extension
5 game road losing streak
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 10:53 PM MST up reply actions
niiiice stat
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:54 PM MST up reply actions
I don't understand this...They already offered him $11 million, did they not?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
he thinks he is worth more money
even though he has never won a ring
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 10:55 PM MST up reply actions
Hey guy
Who do you think CAN coach this group?? Seriously, tell me? I’d love to hear you’re opinion…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:10 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
$12 mil
Is what I thought I saw
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 11:03 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
that could be , I wasn't sure on the exact amount...
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
It's ok do go below .500 on the road remember?
Thats acceptable. Doesn’t matter if you got a team full of All-Stars, going less than .500 on the raod is ok.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 10:55 PM MST up reply actions
yes but they had their best player
in Roy and he single handily won this game for his team tonight
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 10:54 PM MST up reply actions
You can't be serious
I want to kill myself every time I see that
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 10:56 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah.
Dumbest commercial ever. Are you a twelve year old Mariah Carey fan?
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:11 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I hate these fing commercials
who the hell cares about kobe and lebron
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 10:54 PM MST reply actions
Melo usually shows up these days.
Its Nene, JR, & the other Stooges that’ll determine how far we go. Plus our very suspect defense.
Sadly even if the Nugs DID close the gap (which they won’t), Oden isn’t out there to miss important free throws.
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Fuck
This game was winnable. >:(
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:57 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Wheres all the people that support karl tonight, They wont say anything when we get are asses kicked
I’m right here. How are you crybabies trying to blame Karl for this one? OR will you be telling us about how we should trade Melo tonight?
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
I support Karl
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Shut up
Your a Bills fan, you like choking when it really matters.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 10:59 PM MST up reply actions
Awww, that’s cute. Start crying about the person who called you out instead of refuting or offering points?
Then again, you think Will Farrel is funny so I understand your intellect.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
And since when did an NBA game in December matter?
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
In an 82 game season? Next you’ll be telling me every ROCKIES game matters.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
well, if one game separates a team from the playoffs
or higher seeding…then yes, I would say every game counts
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Did you not watch last season
We tied Portland with the same number of wins but because we had a better division record, we won. Again, every game counts. Especially ones against teams in your own division.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:05 PM MST up reply actions
no ur just ignorant
and every game counts
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:03 PM MST up reply actions
Tell that to the Blazers
You are an idiot man. Karl deserves some of the blame, if not all.
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 11:04 PM MST up reply actions
Hahahaha, he does deserve some of it. Along with everyone else on the team. But not all.
Might as well bring in the Bulls coach, see if he can do a better job since this team is obviously nothing but a great coach away from success.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
Yeah, they are actually
They have a very talented team.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:06 PM MST up reply actions
Good idea
I’m being absolutely serious. Thansk for bringing a great suggestion to Denver Stiffs.
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 11:09 PM MST up reply actions
I can’t tell if you’re actually that dumb or if you’re trying to be funny.
You’re like those Rockies fans that were convinced that De La Rosa was a good pitcher despite all actual evidence. So convinced that Karl is the worst coach in the NBA that you won’t listen to things like logic.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
JDLR IS a good pitcher!!!!
he was a headcase….now that he’s got that straightened out…he’s proven it..
ps bad analogy…sorry….
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
We will listen to Logic
you just don’t have any logic
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:14 PM MST up reply actions
Your logic so far has been more circular than the earth.
“Karl is the worst coach in the NBA! It’s all his fault that the Nuggets lost!”
“But coaches can only control their players so much, it’s really the players that define how a game is won or lost.”
“No! Karl is horrible! He hasn’t taken the team to the finals yet and he has no emotion!”
“But he’s never missed the playoffs and took us to a WCF last season!”
“That was the players, not the coaches!”
…I won’t pretend there’s a chance you’ll get that.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
you are a tool and a waste of my time
so I am done arguing with you
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:41 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, those pesky points I was making were probably hurting your brain.
I tried to avoid insults, but since it seems that your vocabulary was limited to that of a middle schooler…
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
Wow you are an internet tough guy
feel like a big man now. I really doubt you would say half this stuff to someone in person. Really if you go back and read all the insults started on this thread is right around where you started to chime in.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:48 PM MST up reply actions
Even the guy who agreed with you thought you were overdoing it with the middle school crap.
I would say this stuff in real life if their arguments were as bad as the ones you’ve… well, actually you’ve made no real arguments so I guess I wouldn’t.
Who’s the internet tough guy? The one actually debating or the one who started every post with “WAH UR DUMB”?
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
Look
Anybody who watches and pays great attention to the nuggets can not possibly think Karl is a good coach at this point in time.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:04 PM MST up reply actions
I do pay attention to the Nuggets, and I never said he was coach of the year.
If Mike Brown can succeed in Cleveland, I don’t see why Denver should be so special as to need the best coach in the league to suddenly be good.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
Mike Brown>George Karl
Browns teams actually play defense. They made the lakers look bad in the lakers house today
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:10 PM MST up reply actions
…You have got to be kidding me. The Cavs suddenly learned to play defense while I wasn’t looking?
Last I checked they were only winning because LeCrab was putting up 40 a game and carrying the team on his back. The spurs they ain’t.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
They are top 3 in defense this year
and are always one of the best each year.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:15 PM MST up reply actions
they have been one of the best defensive teams
since Brown took over that job. That comment makes you lose all credibility
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:19 PM MST up reply actions
ARE YOU KIDDING ME
How can you trash Mike Brown and simulatenously support GK? LOL, Bravo man, Bravo
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 11:11 PM MST up reply actions
We don't need a really good coach to be good
just look at what we are doing now. What we need is a coach who wants to win the ship. Who wants to be here. Who wants to call plays, and argue for his players. What we don’t need is a guy who sulks on the bench like spectator, and doesn’t get actively involved in the game.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:12 PM MST up reply actions
I find it funny that your point to the Bills fan is that the coach needs to get more involved.
It wasn’t true with Dick Jauron in Buffalo, it’s not true with Karl in Denver. He’s a good enough coach.
And who pretell would you replace him with?
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
If Karl even got us to one NBA Finals
I would be begging him to come back.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:16 PM MST up reply actions
Again on the playersvscoach debate. Brown’s lame coach ass didn’t take his team to the finals.
LeCrab did singlehandedly, and then he failed epically with the HELP of his coach sucking.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
No
He failed because he had jack sh*t in terms of a supporting cast. Meanwhile his opposition was one of the best PFs of all time, accompanied by a finals MVP, a defensive stopper, Manu Ginobili, one of the most clutch role players ever, and on and on. Who the hell did Lebron have? Larry Huges? That’s not gonna get you a title no matter who your coach is.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:22 PM MST up reply actions
I have to almost agree here...
because Lebron is the only person on that team with any speck of talent. Well…Boobie Gibson is okay.
"Fans like home runs. And we have assembled a pitching staff to please our fans."
Clark Griffith - Washington Senators owner
by RockyNuggets on Dec 25, 2009 11:23 PM MST up reply actions
Karl cannot do the following:
—cannot make Nene be more aggressive or dunk, instead of missing layups
—cannot stop bad jump shots
—cannot control ticky tack fouls
—cannot prevent a groin injury to Chauncey…
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Yes he can
As a coach, it’s your job to make sure none of that stuff goes on. I love how people think that the coach has no control over his players.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:14 PM MST up reply actions
please explain to me on all of my points
what Karl can do about ech..
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
OK, the fouls and the injuries, obviously he can't contorl
But if you are telling me he has no control over bad jumpshots and his Centers play, then you are crazy. Like I said before, it’s his job to ensure that bad jump shots do not become a staple of your offense, yet he has shown no desire to fix this issue and lets it happen every game. As for Nene, he’s one of the best post players in the league and extremely talented. If Karl ran the offense through him more often it would make Nene more comfortalbe with teh ball and it would open up the rest of the floor as well. It’s Karls fault for not running any plays and not going to Nene consistantly that Nene is clearly uncomfortable at times with the ball.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:20 PM MST up reply actions
Yep, right here.
I’ll say it again guys. A coach in basketball is completely different than any other sport…the players are in charge of effort….George Karl is not THE problem…please grow up…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:13 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
All you people that think this can only be
blamed on the players obviously have never played a sport in their entire life. The coach is just as important as the players playing in the game. Yes some players did not show up tonight but it is Karls job to get them fired up and make them play with more discipline
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:16 PM MST up reply actions
I disagree, I played sports
there is only a certain point that a coach affects a player’s head and ability
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
I can’t possibly imagine how you’re failing to see how shitty that point you keep hammering is.
It’s like you came to a debate with nothing but a sticky-note with “COACH IZ GOD OF PLAYRS” on it.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
The Cavs came damn close a few years ago.
And the Nuggets do have a coach. You’re just so stuck in your sad little fantasy that Karl is so awful that you won’t admit it. I do love how soon you forget that Karl has at the very least made the playoffs every season and took the Nuggets (mostly with the help of his PLAYERS, catching your stupid double standard here?) to the WCF last season as well.
And how your mouth is always shut when they win.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
I think the playoffs coincide more with Melo than Karl...
"Fans like home runs. And we have assembled a pitching staff to please our fans."
Clark Griffith - Washington Senators owner
by RockyNuggets on Dec 25, 2009 11:25 PM MST up reply actions
That’s my point. 90% of what an NBA team accomplishes is based on players. Not coaches.
But this group of intellectuals apparently feels every loss is nothing but the coaches fault.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
Players matter moron
but great players need great coaches also. Players can not win all by themselves as much as you want to believe it. Jordan would have not won all his rings without Phil. You are failing to realize how important a coach is
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:32 PM MST up reply actions
Going to the playoffs is no longer acceptable with this team
We have the talent to win a ring and Karl is not going to get us there. The only thing that should be acceptable this year is a ring. Yes he has taken us to the playoffs but how many of those were sweeps in the first round.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:30 PM MST up reply actions
But… they really don’t. It’s an incredibly talented team, but they’re not an NBA elite, as much as Nuggets fans want to believe it. The Nuggets lack depth at just about every position, and if they lose ANYONE (see chauncey) they lose their spark.
I know this is supposed to be the magical happy season for the Nuggets, but it’s not panning out that way
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
They really do not lack depth all that much
Tell me any of the elite teams that have a bench better than the Nuggets. The celtics maybe. The lakers bench is a joke except for Lamar. Orlando is very overrated. Cleveland is getting more impressive as the year goes on. Those are the teams that are considered Elite. None of them have a player with JRs ability coming of the bench. The problem with the nuggets is everyone but Melo disappears on the on the road. Nene, K mart, Birdman, JR most nights play like shit unless they are in denver. The difference between the elite teams and the nuggets is the road games. Elite teams win around 26-28 games on the road while the nuggets are around 20.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:46 PM MST up reply actions
It is obvious that you are a fucking moron and
none of your points are any good. It is like you forgot you do not have a brain
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:22 PM MST up reply actions
BLAKE WIDE OPEN GUYS, THATS JUST CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER D
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:57 PM MST reply actions
welp, Melo having 4 fouls midway through the 3rd period did not help to be sure
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
that was the turning point in the game
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 10:59 PM MST up reply actions
he played
he played his normal minutes, that had ntohing to do with this. Our D was the worst I’ve seen down the stretch
I agree
the haters talk crap and then expect everyone else to make rational points.
They need to shut up already.
wow...everyone....chill
can we have a rationale non personal attack discussion?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
stop telling people to chill
if you’re allowed to say irrational things about how to RUN THE TEAM then im allowed to say you’re an idiot…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:44 PM MST up reply actions
actually you're not ...
differences of opinion don’t have to devolve to name calling
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Yes
Melo can only take us as far as GK will let him. GK ultimately controls everything that goes on in terms of players on the court
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 11:23 PM MST up reply actions
"They"
do you mean fans who actually admit to the fact that they dont know what it takes COACH this game?
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:48 PM MST up reply actions
you know, if GK is as all-powerful as you guys make out
then you must be really glad we’re in first place
and we have beaten some of the best...
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
I'm aware of the teams involved.
my point is that we are 20-10 and have beaten some of the best in the league…I don’t understand why that is being ignored…
I’m not ignoring these losses by any means,
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
We are not in first place
And we will never get there with Karl in charge
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 11:30 PM MST up reply actions
Melo became less aggressive on defense once he had 4 fouls
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Yea it has nothing to do with 4 fouls
you are clueless. He could not be nearly as aggressive because he got his 4th half way through the 3rd
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:01 PM MST up reply actions
Okay refs
You can cut it out now.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 10:58 PM MST via mobile reply actions
exactly
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
fuck im tired of these nuggets. Last year was a dream
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
by Lucas Navarrete on Dec 25, 2009 10:58 PM MST reply actions
I fear
that I will go to my grave saying “if only GK believed in practicing inbounds pass plays, the Nugs might’ve won a championship in my lifetime.”
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 11:06 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Boo fucking hoo
Grow up guys. We’re not gonna win sixty games…but we’ll make the playoffs…and then I’ll let you guys blast everyone on this team…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:16 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Merely making the playoffs is no longer an acceptable goal for this team. They need to build on what they did last year, or make a big change.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 11:19 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
exactly
the Karl supporters are satisfied with mediocrity. We made the WCFs last year, anything less than that is a failure this year.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:26 PM MST up reply actions
i'm not gonna moan about the coach when
a. the team has a good record (with some obvious bad losses)
b. until the playoffs.
my gosh..
this board has gotten really nasty and going into personal attacks
what gives friends?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
come on man....
we’re allowed to ask for george karl to get fired and Melo and JR to be traded because of a myriad of reasons including persona attacks on them and you’re taking umbridge to “personal attacks” on people who AREN’T in the organization?
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:52 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not talking about the organization
I’m talking about people here calling each other names…
and for the record, I’m not a man…
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
oh sorry,
but seriously, come on man…..
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:58 PM MST up reply actions
That is bullshit
these refs are FUCKING horrible
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 10:58 PM MST reply actions
yup
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
No extension for GK
Go ahead and try to argue for that shit now. We were in control of this game the first half
How can a guy who is permastoned knock down that many 3s
You can say all you want about Roy, but Blake was the one who separated the teams in the 4th with his 3 point shooting.
JR had a decent game off the bench for the most part
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
bad bad fourth q
bad guard play on O
bad rotations on D
Roy kept them in the game till the rest of the team came awake late
He isn’t the one out there playing the shit D. He can inspire and talk to the team all he wants but if the team isn’t playing as one he can’t do a thing about it.
Bills fan? In Colorado? It's more likely than you think.
wow you are an idiot
did you listen to his timeout speech “play defense, rebound, blah blah blah” that is what you tell kids. These people are professionals. There is a reason is a good coach and not a great coach. Yes he has won a ton of game but he is yet to win the most important thing and that is a ring
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:05 PM MST up reply actions
me too
I was like you can pay me 5 million a year to give that garbage speech and sit on my ass with a smug look almost the entire game
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:08 PM MST up reply actions
You're the idiot
Unless you know something about coaching a bunch pro basketball players that we don’t…oh, I forgot, the magic serum…right. Why didn’t Karl inject the guys with that…damn Karl…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:19 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
You obviously know nothing about coaching
it is the coaches job to get his players ready for the game and make sure they play. George is not doing that. Winning half your games on the road is not acceptable and is not what the elite teams that win rings do. Karl is a good coach but he will never win us a ring
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:26 PM MST up reply actions
no, i get it but...
why dont you understand the difference of saying, “you have to rotate to cover the weakside”, and the ACTUAL execution of it…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:54 PM MST up reply actions
Thats an irrelevant & no-win argument right now!
George Karl’s not going anywhere- we’ll have to deal w/ it.
by Verbal Kint on Dec 25, 2009 11:03 PM MST up reply actions
I've been harping on Karl for years...
I could coach this team into the playoffs. They didn’t have an inbounds play until CB got here. He will give 20 minutes a game to AC and even let Petro in before he lets Balkman play a second. What example of good “coaching” can anyone cite for him?
"Fans like home runs. And we have assembled a pitching staff to please our fans."
Clark Griffith - Washington Senators owner
by RockyNuggets on Dec 25, 2009 11:09 PM MST up reply actions
really, man?
you seriously think that these PLAYERS cant think for themselves..
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:57 PM MST up reply actions
All the GK haters tend to use Hyperbole instead of actual analysis
and it’s almost pointless to argue with them because they just argue their point by talking louder instead of thinking things through
Why
Why sit Afflalo while their guard destroy us with jumpshots. Why play AC most of the 2nd half when Ty played decent to start the game? Why hold Birdman out of the entire third quarter when we were still in it?
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 11:08 PM MST up reply actions
this is exactly what I was talking about
I already offered my explanation for what went wrong.
I’m not gonna answer your questions. the burden of proof is on you to explain what you think,
I didn't know you could hear how loud I was talking over the net
I’ll try to keep it down next time.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:09 PM MST up reply actions
not having billups in the second half sucked.
Team isn’t capable of winning much without the top dogs. Leaving shooters open and giving up wide open dunks is embarrassing.
Denver Stiffs.com: Defending the sovereignty of Nuggets Nation.
by Nate Timmons on Dec 25, 2009 11:05 PM MST via mobile reply actions
That is a very good point
he looked fine in the first half also
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:06 PM MST up reply actions
Stop kissing ass
These guys (Nate and Andrew) are NO DIFFERENT THAN YOU AND I….this loss has nothing to do with Chauncey being in or out. It’s a matter if executing without having a starter in…it’s as if they think that if one of the starting five in excuses them from plating to win…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:26 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I am not ass kissing
he made a good point
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:34 PM MST up reply actions
yeah but why you didnt respond to the
first, second, third, fourth, etc.. who said it. come on….you dont need their approval. you dont even knoe them…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:00 AM MST up reply actions
Isn't that just infuriating?
Look at how the Balzers did with like 66% of their roster injured tonight.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 11:09 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
and you can attribute that to
the coaching and only the coaching. Portlands player are more disciplined.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:11 PM MST up reply actions
I dont understand the constant switching.
It plays right into the offense’s hands.
Rotations are embarrassingly bad as well…all this happens in wins too. It’s troubling.
Denver Stiffs.com: Defending the sovereignty of Nuggets Nation.
by Nate Timmons on Dec 25, 2009 11:07 PM MST via mobile reply actions
RMC
Not to call too much attention to one of your competitors, but Jeremy at RMC did a whole video analysis a while back showing how well it worked against the Suns.
Maybe GK thinks it’s the only scheme these guys will stick to?
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 11:12 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I read Jeremy all the time.
Ya, I don’t mind some switching, but it can kill you when it’s all you do.
Denver Stiffs.com: Defending the sovereignty of Nuggets Nation.
by Nate Timmons on Dec 25, 2009 11:14 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
i hate espn
they are a complete joke. Every person that works for that network knows nothing about sports
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:11 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, gnarlybroncodude, you're not a joke
Idiot. Grow up. Teams lose. And we hope they win the next game…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 25, 2009 11:29 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
you are a tool that should grow up
yes teams lose but we should not lose to bad and shorthanded teams. If you are ok with losing to inferior teams that is fine. I am not ok with that. I do not get nearly as pissed is we lose to legit competition. I do no accept games that we should not lose
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:36 PM MST up reply actions
stop being a fan then.
just hole up untilk they get the right line-uo, coach and schedule and then be a fan…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:01 AM MST up reply actions
Also if you like ESPN and think they actually report anything good
you are clueless.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:38 PM MST up reply actions
by the by
i love that movie “Clueless”…you remind me of her
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:02 AM MST up reply actions
It's hard...
I want to like Rivers because he is such a douche to the Broncos whom I hate…but he IS Rivers after all. Although I probably hate him mostly because he took Drew B’s job.
"Fans like home runs. And we have assembled a pitching staff to please our fans."
Clark Griffith - Washington Senators owner
by RockyNuggets on Dec 25, 2009 11:13 PM MST up reply actions
Rivers is a douche to all teams...not just the Broncos
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
I despise Rivers, Tomlinson, Norv and all their fair weather fans.
I was stationed in San Diego when the Chargers sucked and there were like 100 people at the game.
by broncofan8404 on Dec 25, 2009 11:16 PM MST up reply actions
+1
they have some of the worst fans in all of sports.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:17 PM MST up reply actions
He's a bad coach, no doubt about that!
But he’ll always win just enough to keep his job. The only way to get rid of him, unfortunately, is if the teams REALLY falls off., & I don’t know if I wanna see that. Either that, or he’ll have to “lose” Melo & the rest of the team.
I've been trying to remain neutral
But I’m really starting to believe that GK is just not the right guy for this group of players. All they had to do tonight was just keep playing hard and limit AC’s minutes as much as possible. The idea that Karl has lost this team, and that he makes bad rotation decisions, just seems to explain all the big problems at this point.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 25, 2009 11:17 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
YEAH!!!! Bring in....
oh i dont know, SOMEBODY ELSE WITH 900 wins!!! YEAH! go get em!!!
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:04 AM MST up reply actions
AA really pissed me off tonight
He had to pass up at least 5 shots that were open. He is almost afraid to shoot the ball. Melo needs to yell at this kid some more because he is not getting the job done
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:13 PM MST reply actions
He only played 18 minutes
AA couldn’t stay in front of Roy though. Then again, no one could. I honestly believe if AA and Ty had played more this game would have had a different outcome
by runningdonut on Dec 25, 2009 11:15 PM MST up reply actions
yea and he passed on at least 5
open shots in those 18 minutes. He is a fairly good shooter. When he get the ball and he is open he needs to shoot the damn ball. He should not just stand their and look to pass the ball right away.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:18 PM MST up reply actions
Did it seem like
Ty was hesitant to drive to the hole tonight? Maybe GK doesnt want him penetrating.. IDK but he looked like a different player then when I watched him last.
I do not think he is using Ty to the best of his skills
Ty is not a spot up shooter like they are asking him to do. He is a scoring PG that needs the ball in his hands. He is at his best driving to the basket and dishing the ball to open shooter. He is not doing this and that is why he is struggling
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 25, 2009 11:27 PM MST up reply actions
look at how bad Bayless was last year, it’s extremely tough for rookie point guards to sustain success in the NBA. Lawson is good, he’ll be doing well again soon.
draft patrick patterson
#52 #88 #10 #8 #5 #25
by Cablinasian on Dec 25, 2009 11:28 PM MST up reply actions
Bad calls
Give me a break. Denver leads the league in free throws. Portland won this game. They won it because they get a lot more out of a lot less talent. That comes down to heart and coaching. This one is on George Karl, period.
well, I feel like tonight Nuggets fans are turning on each other
in a really nasty way. I think its unconstructive calling each other morons and idiots.
I hope everyone had a great holiday with their family and friends!!!
GO NUGGETS!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
LOSSES TO- BUCKS, TIMBERWOLVES, BOBCATS, PISTONS, CLIPPERS, GRIZZLIES.
This is unexceptable. Great coaches do not lose these games in that ratio. Thats a fact.
Again
We, for some reason, allow a role player to go off for a career night. Steve Blake’s career high is 25, he had 17 tonight, which is one less than the most points he has had all season. He also has a career high of 6 3 pionters made in a game, we allowed him 5, most of which came in one quarter. As for a non-role player, Roy, we allowed him to make 3 more filed goals than his season high and one more than his career high. I get that players go off for points every now and then, buy why is it always against us?!?! All it is is solid proof that our defense is nowhere near where it should be, and you know who that’s on? That’s right, Karl.
That's pure lack of discipline, concentration and effort
All of which should be fundamentally implemented every day at practice by the coach. I have never heard of a team made up full of lackadaisical players as talented as the Nuggets, because that’s just not something that happens.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 25, 2009 11:52 PM MST up reply actions
Sternfluffskobe
You call everyone idiots. I believe that most of us are making valid arguments against yours and yet you still call us idiots. You are in the minority of this coaching argument in this blog. Come up with some better arguments than “Your and Idiot” LOL
how about 900 wins
and if you can come up with ANOTHER guy who these players will ACTUALLY listen to then, my god, please tell me. thats the fucking problem, “going along with the majority” guy. NO ONE come up with adifferent name to coach…AND if you’re so quick to fire Karl because of how horrible we are this season, then doesnt that mean that Karl has SOMETHING to do with how far we got last season? if not, the you’re making my argument that its the PLAYERS who determine the outcome of a game…..
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:10 AM MST reply actions
just write "thats so funny" or "Im laughing at you"
LOL is so 12-year-old girl texting her friend about who she sat next to in the cafeteria that day
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:11 AM MST reply actions
exactly
Anybody who has been in the league as long as Karl and has had the players he has had (Melo, A.I., Payton, Kemp, Ray Allen,ect.) would have 900 wins too. The problem is, none of them are championship clinching wins. Even so, that argument is bad. Who cares even if Karl has won a title in the past, right now in the present is where it all happens, and the decisions he is making are that of a coach who has no idea what he’s doing.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 26, 2009 12:25 AM MST up reply actions
okay
then lets get one of them! guys, im asking, once again, (and since you all know who we should trade for, as far as players are concerned) who should be the coach?
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:28 AM MST reply actions
how many championships has Sloan won?
lets get him, right? we all agree hes the better coach right?
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:30 AM MST reply actions
He's way better than Karl
But I think he’s getting old, and right now he might be in a similar situation as Karl, as in, kind of losing it.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 26, 2009 12:31 AM MST up reply actions
this game happens on the court.
the PLAYERS determine the outcome…
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:31 AM MST reply actions
What if the players dont' want to play for Karl anymore?
Ever think of that?
by GoldenNugget on Dec 26, 2009 12:32 AM MST up reply actions
Ok buddy
You;re saying there are no bad coaches in this league, only bad players?
by runningdonut on Dec 26, 2009 12:34 AM MST up reply actions
guys
i hear you. but you think the players “not wanting to play for the coach” means that they are spiting him by wabting to lose? makes no sense to me.
20-10….its wierd that we are this upset right now….do you think that a coaching change is going to result in anything other than an immediate conflict of energy?
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:36 AM MST reply actions
I just want to see us playing the right way
Wasn’t it wierd how when Chauncey came over last year, for the first time in a long time we started playing the right way? Now we are back to our old habits. I just want a real coach, that’s all I want.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 26, 2009 12:43 AM MST up reply actions
Heres why i hate the man
He never calls appropriate time outs, his rotations are never consistant nor effective, coughdrops enough said, kobe karl enough said, HE ACTUALLY PLAYS ANTHONY CARTER
im going to bed but
planning on doing a Fan Post tomorrow about this. Id love it if you guys post on there so we can contine to chat about it…seriously.
Good night
GO NUGGETS!
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:40 AM MST reply actions
Great
Plan on discussing this in great detain tomorrow. Hopefully you’re up for the challenge.
by GoldenNugget on Dec 26, 2009 12:44 AM MST up reply actions
I'm in
Here’s the thing, the majority of us who can see basketball outside of our Nuggets-centric bias and make an effort to watch every game objectively, we all know how Karl’s coaching is costing this team. It’s a matter of having low expectations for a franchise that has perennially had trouble playing at high level consistently. Having irrational blind faith in Karl doesn’t make you a better Nuggets fan. I am willing to bet the majority of true Nuggets fan don’t want a future with Karl
by runningdonut on Dec 26, 2009 12:53 AM MST up reply actions
merry xmas!
i love arguing with you guys!!!
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 26, 2009 12:41 AM MST reply actions
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