Game 23 Preview & Thread: Nuggets at Pistons (5:30pm MDT)
by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2009 10:48 AM MST
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Denver Nuggets at Detroit Pistons, Dec 10, 2009 5:30 PM MST
The Nuggets are in Detroit tonight to take on a Pistons team that is fresh off a 90-86 victory over the 76ers. Denver exorcised a lot of demons last season, but they let one slip away ... tonight they will try to get the job done.
The particulars ...
Records:
Denver: 16-6
Detroit: 9-12 (6-4 at home, 3-8 on the road) (key wins: vs. Orlando, Atlanta and Milwaukee)
Injuries:
Denver: Kenyon Martin (dislocated left pinky (there you go reader KarlSucks)) is out and Malik Allen (flu) is listed as day-to-day.
Detroit: Ben Gordon (left ankle sprain) is questionable after sitting out last night in Philadelphia. Richard Hamilton (right ankle sprain) and Tayshaun Prince (ruptured disc - lower back) are both out tonight.
Opposition's Take: Motown String Music
Click the following video as you read this post ... go ahead ... click it and have a listen. It's a Tom Petty song ...
Why in the world would I start the body of this post off with a classic Tom Petty song from 1994 that was released as a single in 1995 and won the Grammy Award for "Best Rock Vocal Performance, Male"? For the same reason that I'll tell you that in May of 1995 the film Braveheart was released. Also, in January of 1995 the O.J. Simpson murder trial began. On March 27, 1995 Forrest Gump won the Academy Award for "Best Picture."
But the date that should mean the most to Nuggets fans is this one: March 10, 1995. That was the date of the last Nuggets victory in Detroit. Denver won that game 99-88, led by Jalen Rose's 20 points, in front of the fourth largest regular season crowd that year for the Pistons of 21,454.
Denver has come close to winning along the way in Detroit ... like on November 13, 1996 when the Nuggets lost in overtime to the Pistons 95-94 or on March 31, 2002 when Calbert Cheaney scored 22 points in a 86-82 losing effort. But the closest the Nuggets have come to victory in Detroit since '95 was March 26, 2007.
On that fateful day in late March the Nuggets had a 98-95 lead with just 1.5 seconds to play and here is what unfolded:
Rasheed Wallace scooped up a loose ball and hit a 60-foot buzzer-beater to force overtime, then added another key 3 to help the Pistons defeat the Denver Nuggets 113-109 Monday.
The Nuggets appeared to have the game won as they prepared to inbound the ball at midcourt with a 98-95 lead and 1.5 seconds to play.
Marcus Camby's short pass, though, was tipped by Tayshaun Prince, and Wallace threw up a desperation two-handed set shot that banked in as the buzzer sounded.
Even before that Lakers series the Nuggets had a history of bad inbounds plays ...
But the good thing about the NBA is that every season you get another chance. Seems sort of odd that Melo has not been able to beat the team that should have drafted him in their own building. Most guys do all they can to try to stick it to the teams that should have drafted them, but Melo has been unsuccessful in exacting revenge on the Pistons in Auburn Hills.
The Nuggets get their first crack at the $95+ million future of the Detroit Pistons tonight. Of course I'm talking about the two big free agent signings of Ben Gordan and Charlie Villanueva, but the Pistons will probably be without Gordan again tonight as he is nursing a sprained left ankle. So who is going to play for this suddenly new look Pistons team that will be without Gordon, Hamilton and Prince?
Detroit has a couple retreads in the starting lineup with Ben Wallace and Chucky Atkins back in blue and red to go along with the excitable Jason Maxiell, Rodney Stucky (the Billups replacement) and Jonas Jerebko. The Swedish second round draft pick Jerebko has worked his way into the starting lineup and is having some success early in his rookie campaign.
In his last three games Jerebko has posted a 17-10, 10-11 and 16-7 point and rebound totals all in winning efforts. The 6'10'' and 230 pounder is going to be very interesting to watch tonight. Charlie V. has been coming off the bench since returning from a broken nose and the hairless wonder will probably be wearing the Rip Hamilton mask again tonight.
The Pistons bench features two former first round busts in Kwame Brown and Chris Wilcox, Wilcox is making $3 million this season and has recorded 12 Did Not Play - Coach's Decisions this season ... pretty good way to spend 3 millon bucks. (Note: Denver is paying Antonio McDyess $3 million this season to play for the Spurs.) The bench also features backup point guard Will Bynum and incredibly skinny rookie Austin Daye who goes 6'11'' and 200 pounds.
If Detroit had health on their side they would be a pretty deep squad, but with a couple veterans out the young guys are getting some good minutes that will come in handy down the road should Detroit be in the playoff hunt in the Eastern Conference (right now at 9-12 they would be the 8th Seed).
If the Nuggets can pull off the win and snap their 12 game losing streak in Detroit then they will finish the roadtrip 3-1 ... pretty good considering a back-to-back was in there. The Pistons might be a little drained from their game last night in Philly and the Nuggets must take advantage of those tired legs. Denver hasn't put together a solid first half on this trip and tonight it'd be nice to see them come out with some killer instinct and tough defense.
I'll be watching Ty Lawson tonight because as Benjamin Hochman of the Denver Post reported yesterday:
The Nuggets traveled to Detroit on Tuesday night, but Ty Lawson said Karl let him stay in North Carolina so that the rookie can spend some time with his old teammates and coaches in Chapel Hill, where Lawson led the Tar Heels to an NCAA title last season.
That was a pretty kind thing of Karl to do for his prized rookie and we'll see if the "rook" is focused and ready to go after having some nice leisure time in Chapel Hill.
Injury update:
Thanks to reader Phil H. for finding the Post's story listing K-Mart out tonight. Denver is 0-2 without Kenyon this season and we all saw what happened against Charlotte without Martin. Denver's defense must not allow Detroit easy buckets in the paint and without the defensive "QB" the Nuggets must communicate on defense. The areas where the Bobcats hurt Denver without Kenyon: on the boards, points in the paint and on the pick-and-roll.
Joey Graham's defense got some talk during training camp and he must come with a good effort tonight. If Graham isn't effective, Balkman may see some minutes if Malik Allen isn't able to go and perhaps Johan Petro could see some time although a shooter like Jerebko could pose problems for the Denver bigs.
Views you can use:
- Denver's losing streak may have been 13, but thankfully they didn't have to travel to Detroit during the strike shortened 1998-99 season.
- Melo's career games in Detroit:
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- 2008-09: Suspended by team.
- 2007-08: 8-15 shooting, 27 points, 2 rebounds, 5 assists
- 2006-07: 6-19 shooting, 13 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists
- 2005-06: 4-15 shooting, 12 points, 4 rebounds, 0 assists
- 2004-05: 2-13 shooting, 5 points, 4 rebounds, 0 assists
- 2003-04: 9-20 shooting, 20 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist
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Ok let's hope we can get that streak out of our mind.
We should really get a W tonight.
I believe J.R will be the key os this one, because Melo will be matched up with Prince, who is a pretty good defender. I hope Melo doesn’t try to force his offense too much and stays in that “team first” mentality for tonight.
I’m looking forward to it, so
GO NUGGETS!!
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
Check the injury report at the top of the body ... no Prince tonight.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
That's a nice new (sorry for Prince though)
I don’t think the Pistons have any other deffensive stopper other than Prince and Wallace, so we should be comfortable on offense.
Stuckey is a really nice offensive player, as Villanueva, so the Nuggets better step it up deffensively.
I think Afflalo should guard Stuckey, I don’t want Chauncey having to catch him, fighting through screens and run on deffense all night long, or we won’t have him offensively.
GO NUGGETS
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
This is a no-brainer
We should be looking to rest our guys in the 4th…that would be nice.
How many times Detroit have gone to the ECF if they HAD drafted Melo…? That team wouldve been COMPLETELY different.
The stars aligned for both teams ultimately on that fateful day….
by SternfluffsKobe on Dec 10, 2009 11:13 AM MST via mobile reply actions
K-Mart
So he definitely won’t be playing tonight?
What’s the word on this injury, is he expected to return anytime soon?
by ParkHillNative on Dec 10, 2009 11:16 AM MST reply actions
K-Mart is listed as day-to-day ...
We’ve seen guys listed as day-to-day and play. He’s not listed as “out” so we could see him tonight. I haven’t seen anything other than the Nuggets game notes page listing him as D-2-D …
We should get a definite answer on Nuggets Courtside at 5 p.m. (if not sooner).
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2009 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
K-Mart is definitely out
according to the Post.
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
we should still get this one...
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
i think we can still beat day-twa without kmart...
but i really hope he makes it back by saturday to play the suns.
by calvin brodus on Dec 10, 2009 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
Nice find Phil ... didn't see that up when I checked ...
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2009 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
billups returns to detroit- take 2
the best part of last season’s game at detroit was the out pouring of admiration and gratitude for chauncey during player introductions. after that denver struggled and lost the game. tonight it is billups’ baby once again. he needs to set the tone and the pace of the game. he needs to avoid the transition 3 point shots and execute the half court offense. the bobcat game was a case of dumb and dumber. bad shots by everyone on the nuggets. the highlights were graham’s 3 pointer, nene’s air ball 3 pointer and balkman’s 18 footer. chauncey needs to set an example and run a clinic on smart basketball. the detroit fans will be there for an opportunity to pay respect to one of the best players in their franchise’s history.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
by nohoops4u on Dec 10, 2009 11:23 AM MST reply actions 7 recs
FYI ...
Did you guys know that you can “REC” comments? If a comment receives enough “REC” then it will be highlighted so that all can focus on your great post …
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions 5 recs
I'm dense
How does one recommend comments?
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 10, 2009 11:54 AM MST up reply actions
click on Actions and then Rec
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
Let’s not go crazy with the rec’s though. ;)
by Agaliarept on Dec 10, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Everything you said is right on. I’ll add that he also needs to get Nene started early – rather, he needs to provide the opportunity for Nene to get started early. Find him deep in the paint got get a couple of easy buckets. When CB gets 6 or more assists – we win… typically.
I really hope that the Nuggs got the cement out of their shoes after the Cats game.
Here’s to them getting this win – a 3 and 1 road trip would be awesome!
by Shannon1127 on Dec 10, 2009 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
b2b
Was Chauncey maybe fatigued on the 2nd night of a back-to-back? I worry a lot now about his age and am wondering if there’s any kind of trend forming wrt to his performance in back-to-backs.
by ParkHillNative on Dec 10, 2009 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
minutes played is important
philly game cb1 played 42 minutes. another thing i look at is how much denver plays a 3 guard offense. the ideal for chauncey would be less then 30 minutes and nuggets win.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
The spirit of A.C.
Here’s hoping Billups is back to form tonight. Last game, as my wife said, it was like Anthony Carter had somehow taken over Billups body and was forcing him to make terrible passes.
Anybody see an update on Birdmans leg injury? It’s not listed in the report, but he was limping around a bit in the last game. Hopefully, Karl adjusts the pick and roll defense. All the switching last game got them killed.
I haven't seen anything on Bird ...
I think we’re just going to have to live with him having a bit of a clipped wing this season. (It was as if Chris Marlowe took over my comment right there … )
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
With two(maybe 3) od Detroit's best players out
and them on a second day of a back-to-back this should be a no doubt blow-out win…so it’ll probably be a close game decided in the 4th.
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
Bounce back game
My theory on the Charlotte game. Utah and Potland are not playing well, plus Portland just lost Oden to go along with many other injuries, so the Nuggets see a cushion and almost guaranteed 1st place in the division…so they take the Charlotte game off, along with a couple of others. Melo doesn’t really car eas long as he puts up 30. Not a great excuse for a “contender” but…
Plus, they didn’t pass.
I see it playing out differently tonight. We’ll see.
Here's hoping for the best
Last time we saw Charlie V he torched Melo for like 45 I think. We gotta put a lid on that guy early. It will be fun watching Cb go against Stucky , and even better to watch Lawson’s speed against Stucky’s strength. I’d like to see JR, Melo, CB, and Nene in double figures tonight. And Balk to get some minutes other than garbage time.
No excuses
Detroit doesn’t have a big physical front line so lets’ not focus on no K-Mart. We are shit if we drop to 7-6 on the road
I mean with the road schedule we've had
These guys need to get much better before we start heading to Boston, Orlando, and LA (to play the Lakers)
by runningdonut on Dec 10, 2009 1:13 PM MST up reply actions
Ben Gordan (left ankle sprain) is questionable after sitting out last night in Philadelphia. Richard Hamilton (right ankle sprain) and Tayshaun Prince (ruptured disc - lower back) are both out tonight.
If we can’t take this one, there will be no excuses…
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 10, 2009 1:57 PM MST reply actions
What the hell was I thinking? Fixed that ...
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2009 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
re-trends?
Detroit has a couple re-trends in the starting lineup with Ben Wallace and Chucky Atkins
Do you mean retreads?
The funny part (or not so funny part if you are me) ...
I looked that word up to make sure I was using it correctly and then went ahead and misspelled it anyway … FML!
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 10, 2009 4:39 PM MST up reply actions
when in doubt try and use the word in a sentence
because of a bladder control problem he was forced to wear re-trends.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
Balkman
So I’m guessing Balkman would still be rusty, but didn’t he and we do really well last season when he started in place of Kenyon?
I’m sure Andrew has those stats somewhere.
Julian from Australia
is anyone here?
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i would hope we can win considering that
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
okay I thought it was just me...thanks
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
blech
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Wow, you leave Earl that open...
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 6:21 PM MST reply actions
meaning the nugs...or SBNation :)
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
LOL.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 6:51 PM MST up reply actions
You can stop playing down to your competition any fucking day now nuggets
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
I'm surprised they're only down by 2...
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 6:51 PM MST reply actions
Just got home from work....
what’s the story so far?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
From what I saw, turnovers, lazy defense, and shots not going in.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:02 PM MST up reply actions
Melo has, like, 20 points, though...
So there’s that.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:03 PM MST up reply actions
cool…thanks.
No KMart again?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 10, 2009 7:05 PM MST up reply actions
Nope.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:07 PM MST up reply actions
Petro's already had some minutes.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:08 PM MST up reply actions
Aah, come on, they've been doing in all game.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:08 PM MST reply actions
* doing this
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:08 PM MST up reply actions
Wow, Chauncey gets one over Chucky.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:09 PM MST reply actions
13000 points.
Congrats.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:09 PM MST reply actions
hey everybody
joining the chat a bit late but heres what i’ve noticed.
No kmart is killing us, its making Charlie V look like a superstar.
We need to lock down on the glass.
Does Chris Andersen even feel like defending his man?
Melo needs to take it to the hoop, he’s got the step on whoever Detroit puts on him but still settling for jumpers too often..
Hopefully we can get it together and win this bad boy, be back soon!
this game should not be this close Detroit is a bad team
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:12 PM MST reply actions
3 words:
1. LAC
2. MIN
3. CHA
(well…sort of words)
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 10, 2009 7:15 PM MST up reply actions
Not as bad as the San Antonio guys.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:14 PM MST up reply actions
true
but they are really bad homers also
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:14 PM MST up reply actions
Oh, true.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:15 PM MST up reply actions
it would be nice is someone but
Melo would show up
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:15 PM MST reply actions
Wow, you Yanks really say "mobile" funny.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:15 PM MST reply actions
yes there is no urgency
looks like the could give a shit
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:17 PM MST up reply actions
Switching between games here and it really looks like the Steelers are thinking about losing to the Browns.
I don’t know which is more shocking: 1. The Steelers could lose their 5th straight (to the Browns no less); or 2. That the Broncos lost to this crappy Steelers team. Ouch!
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
LOL the Steelers
are not the same team without Troy P
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:19 PM MST up reply actions
True dat.
If Troy wasn’t in the game, it’d have looked different.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:21 PM MST up reply actions
Steelers played great against the Broncos
then all the analysts started saying they would win the super bowl and now look what has happened.
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
It's the Curse.
Losing to the Broncos = success for the rest of the season.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:22 PM MST up reply actions
Unless you're the Raiders
although they probably consider 4 wins a success.
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
Hell, finally deciding to bench Jamarcus was a success.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:24 PM MST up reply actions
But he was one of Al Davis's mastermind draft picks
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
We’re just toying with them. Wait til the 4th. ;-)
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 10, 2009 7:21 PM MST up reply actions
We suck big time
No urgency whatsoever
I guess they are settling for five hundred on the road.
Melo need to learn how to pass the damn ball
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:22 PM MST reply actions
Tie game.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:23 PM MST reply actions
That's more like it bird
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
Yeah that wasn't more like it
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
Haha, Earl's hair.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:29 PM MST reply actions
1995 or something
it’s in nate’s preview up top
by runningdonut on Dec 10, 2009 7:30 PM MST up reply actions
OMG!
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:30 PM MST reply actions
K-mart & Shaq
The defensive issues in this game goes to show what a bad idea it would be trade K-mart for shaq. the nugs need their defensive QB asap
that was pretty sad...
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Every now and then he does this.
He goes for the spectacular dunks and even though he makes them most of the time, I always wait for when he fails… because you know it’ll eventually come and he’ll look really stupid.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:31 PM MST up reply actions
He does but that dunk attempt wasn't all that spectacular
he just payed too much attention to the defender coming in.
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
Yet we are making him look like a decent player
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
Come on, Nene.
Just shut up and play.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:32 PM MST reply actions
JR misses a dunk and the entire team implodes for the final 2 minutes
pathetic
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
Ben Wallace with 11 rebounds.
why did we not sign him in the offseason
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:34 PM MST reply actions
Come on.
Defense!
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:38 PM MST reply actions
Poor Chucky.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:38 PM MST reply actions
Hack a Kwame may not be a bad plan actually
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
Great stuff, Smitty.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:39 PM MST reply actions
wow they are making Charlie V
look like a superstar
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:40 PM MST reply actions
He is making a couple hard shots, though.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:40 PM MST up reply actions
Dang, my feed died.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:42 PM MST reply actions
Why on Earth is Petro in the game, we are not up 25 GK
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
why is petro in when we are down
and there is 8:13 left
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:45 PM MST reply actions
how do you get D up by a Rook Melo
that is just sad
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:47 PM MST reply actions
What was that 3 by CB
that is just a stupid shot he has been doing all year
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:49 PM MST reply actions
Those guys need to move.
Melo’s looking for a guy, and no one’s getting open, so he has to force these sorts of shots. Lucky that this one fell.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:51 PM MST reply actions
Agreed GK needs to teach his players
how to move without the ball. It is so Important
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:52 PM MST up reply actions
George Karl
If he still has a passion for winning I have never seen it.
All he does is fester in that leaned back fat guy position. It’s funny how his attitude reflects in the team’s approach to the game tonight
How the fuck was that an offensive foul
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:54 PM MST reply actions
LOL, Nene thinks the whole world is against him.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:54 PM MST reply actions
Come on Nuggs!! its right there, grab it!
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Great hustle.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:55 PM MST reply actions
And 1, come on Melo tie it
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
Melo's quietly getting the Nugs there.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:56 PM MST reply actions
Ooooooooooh... so close.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:57 PM MST reply actions
Personally I think
Ben Wallace would have been player to sign in the offseason
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 7:57 PM MST reply actions
I disagree.
He had a worse one earlier in this game.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 7:58 PM MST up reply actions
These dumb ass refs have never heard of a no call.
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
Refs just hate the nuggets
they always have and always will
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:03 PM MST reply actions
Bird sucks
i think we overpaid him this offseason
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:05 PM MST up reply actions
Fucking sloppy bullshit
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
We're gonna literally hand yet another game to the Pisstons
by the real stranger on Dec 10, 2009 8:06 PM MST reply actions
Sixty Million dollar man
is as bad as AC in passing the ball
I dont care if he is a fan favorite
he is very overrated
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:07 PM MST up reply actions
For who?
Nene is one of the most efficient bigs in the league, with a cap-friendly deal.
This is the team we’re going to war with. We could use another big, and I suspect we’ll sign a vet buyout… But, aside from JR, we have very few tradeable assets that have a contract that would net us much.
Bird just disappears on the Road
its pathetic. yes he has decent stats tonight be he has given up a ton of points by not playing defense
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:10 PM MST up reply actions
Wow, you guys need to do some yoga.
So many naughty words!
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 8:07 PM MST reply actions
Who?
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 8:09 PM MST up reply actions
This is beyond annoying.
These Pistons are NOT that good…the Nuggets should not be in this position at all.
You guys act like this is a gimme game.
Detroit is a tough place to play. It’s game 4 of a 4-game road trip and we’re down our best defender. We already don’t have a lot of size… Missing KMart is huge.
They are missing Rip Hamiliton, Ben Gordon, and Prince
this should be a gimmie
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
This should be a gimme game
we are a far superior team. They are missing 2 starters and are playing a bunch of young players. This should not even be close
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:11 PM MST up reply actions
Detroit is on a back to back
They are missing Ben Gordon, Rip, Tayshaun and Will Bynum.
No excuses for this horseshit
by runningdonut on Dec 10, 2009 8:12 PM MST up reply actions
or melo should take it to the basket and
try for the and 1
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:14 PM MST reply actions
why wasn't there a foul called at the end..
and we are cursed at the palace…that sucked
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Melo should have the Ball in that situation
not C bill. Bullshit loss and horrible last call by GK
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:16 PM MST reply actions
Well, this is disappointing.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 8:16 PM MST reply actions
They are still a contender..
but they definitely have a lot of work to do
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
They need to get their sh*t together.
Teams that supposedly have championship aspirations don’t drop back to back games like this.
that's great,
the best clutch player in the nba on a 40-point night doesn’t touch there
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2009 8:17 PM MST reply actions
Exactly
what a waste of a 40 point night. he should have taken it to the basket not Billups
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:18 PM MST up reply actions
there's a stat called "clutch" fg percentage for tshots like that
over the last few years, no one is even close to melo. I think it’s like a 15% discrepancy between him and 2nd place
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2009 8:21 PM MST up reply actions
This.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 8:24 PM MST up reply actions
I am so sick of this shit
we should not lose to team like this. When you lose to teams like this it is on the Coach
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:17 PM MST reply actions
Havent you heard it's a great success
We won half of our games on the road, that’s good enough for GK. No worries
by runningdonut on Dec 10, 2009 8:19 PM MST up reply actions
GK is a good coach
but there is a reason he has never won it all. We need a coach that has been there and can take a team back there. We should have signed Larry Brown when we had the chance.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
Not anymore
George Karl doesn’t have a passion for winning. This is a nice paycheck for him, money and job security are more important to Karl now than winning.
by runningdonut on Dec 10, 2009 8:24 PM MST up reply actions
Don't waste your time or energy
They don’t get it and never will get it. They are challenged just like this coach
....
A team with 3 potential all-stars (according to George Karl), loses to a team whose best player is Rodney Stuckey, and starts Jonas Jerebko/Ben Wallace…
by VancouverNugget on Dec 10, 2009 8:19 PM MST reply actions
And to think
The Nuggets were maybe a single JR Smith dunk away from victory
Quit it with the K-Mart excuses
This team lacks discipline and is not fundamentally sound. Detroit is badly injured and on a back to back, we were playing their summer league squad basically.
Villanueva killed us tonight
That wouldn’t have happened with K-mart, I agree there are plenty other reasons for why we lost but you can’t deny not having K-mart hurt us tonight
Anybody wanna bet...
…the Nuggets aren’t gonna win in Detroit for the next 16 years either?
No biggie boys. The road game in Motown is a calculated loss EVERY YEAR. I know even the best Nuggets team you could ever think of would go 81-1 on a season, dropping the one i Detroit…
Not true in the least bit.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 8:23 PM MST up reply actions
This is the Exact
reason the Front Office has not extended GK
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:22 PM MST reply actions
There is absolutely no Urgency with this team
They think they can go out every night and win on talent alone which is the worst mindset to have.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:23 PM MST up reply actions
We have great ownership and executives in the FO
That’s why we have turned the corner and succeeded.
by runningdonut on Dec 10, 2009 8:28 PM MST up reply actions
WOW, We have the most clutch player in the nba
AND WE DO THAT ! WOW. MELO taking a contested 3 is a gurantee make and we do that. Nice ball hog action iverson cough billups
well, we already knew we were in HUGE trouble if one of the 3 bigs ever went down
still, detroit has worse injury problems than us.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2009 8:25 PM MST reply actions
We deserve to lose...
if we are only going to play hard in 5 minutes spurts and not block out. ridiculous. you dont have to be good to play hard and block out. i just cant get over it. every loss like this i feel we learn our lesson but 2-3 games later we pull the same shit all over again. just how we are i guess, so i expect an early exit from the playoffs this year.
no gordon, prince and hamilton. classic. how do we lose?
This team looks like the
nuggets teams that made it to the playoffs and go their asses handed to them in the first round
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 10, 2009 8:35 PM MST up reply actions
Inconsistency
its a worse problem to have than a low playoff seed. This team has regressed defensively and they are not fundamentally sound. They are better than those first round exit teams but mentally weaker and worse than last years squad. At least last year, they did play hard most nights
by runningdonut on Dec 10, 2009 8:37 PM MST up reply actions
This is the sort of game we'd win last year.
Play like crap all the way through, but we’d still stay close enough and show the mental toughness to win it out.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 8:26 PM MST reply actions
WTF man
i miss how the nuggz always did great last year against shitty teams and late game situations
I feel sorry for the guy that's got to do the game recap.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 10, 2009 8:41 PM MST reply actions
Defend Karl, I dare you
To all the GK apologists, defend him. I dare you. Defend his coaching tonight. Defend how the team’s best player – having a great night, and thus far into his career, a fantastic clutch player – does not have the ball in his hands at the end of the game.
Kobe, LBJ, Wade, etc. – take the last shots. The coach’s job is to get the best player the ball in crucial situations – ideally getting that player the ball in the right place at the right time.
But no.
Please, explain…
So disgusted with...
the fact that the management fails to notice that this team is not quite a championship caliber team dissapoints me. They fail to make the necessary moves to aquire a big man who can rebound the ball or a big man with some kind of consistent offensive game. Nene shows glimpses and promise but that seems to be his thing now for awhile never stringing things together long term. One thing Im really dissapointed in especially is the play of CB. IMO hes passed his prime and the only thing he seems to do well now is hit free throws and bring veteran leadership. Hes been out right awfull and at times selfish. Not to mention iv thought more and more that hes simply overrated. A big point guard who shoots under 40% and under 6 apg with a team like the denver nuggets is unacceptable. Its no surprise the team is alot better when CB gets 8 or more assists. Wouldnt surprise me in the least if billups demanded that last opportunity in tonights lost to tie the game. You could tell by Melos frustration leaving the court tonight he wanted this win and that last shot. None of the players have stepped up this season other then Melo. I think the team would have renewed energy and dedication if the front office were to get rid of GK as the coach get someone new and acquire a productive big man. Also wouldnt hurt if CB actually played decent. Everyone bashes on melo for his defence but has anyone taken notice that billups just gets destroyed almost daily by the oppositions PG. I wouldnt take offense at all if the nuggs made every one expandable on the team and retool around melo.
by MeloBackPacking on Dec 10, 2009 8:49 PM MST reply actions
If
management wants to stay as is im sure they still have a shot at making the NBA finals once playoffs come around but I wouldnt bet on them. If they arnt going to make the moves to make this team a solid contender for the title rather then an inconsistant contender than they should take the time to go young and develop talent and get rid alot of the cap they are spending right now.
by MeloBackPacking on Dec 10, 2009 8:58 PM MST reply actions
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