"Big Bertha" stays in the bag...
The Nuggets substantial trade exception - worth about $7.4 million - expired yesterday without so much as a whimper, so you can erase your hopes of a center like Marc Gasol or Jeff Foster wearing a Nuggets uniform anytime soon. Is this a good thing?
Two weeks ago, Nuggets vice president of basketball operations Mark Warkentien was quoted as saying "If we get stuck, Big Bertha's coming out", referring to the Nuggets $9.8 million trade exception that the team took back in the Allen Iverson-for-Chauncey Billups trade last November 3rd. At the time, I wrote that the chances of Warkentien using the trade exception to bring back a high-priced, talented big man was beyond slim given that the Nuggets clearly remain in "financial prudence" mode, and that appears to still be the case.
As great as the Nuggets are playing right now - and they are playing great, make no mistake about it - it's indisputable that a legitimate center would help the cause in the long run. Four games into the young season, the Nuggets are a middle-of-the-pack rebounding team (not last in the NBA as Chris Marlowe erroneously reported during last night's Altitude telecast) and the Nuggets power forward-turned-center Nene still struggles a bit against much bigger players, as we saw against a gigantic Stiff like Roy Hibbert last night.
But given how well the Nuggets are playing, I question if such a move is as necessary as I thought it was over the summer when I strongly advocated for the Nuggets to acquire Gasol, Foster or even Zydrunas Ilgauskas or Marcus Camby, and take on the additional luxury tax costs that come with those deals. Yes, that Marcus Camby.
Perhaps the story of this season will be written in praise of continuity over change, but only time will tell. Nuggets head coach George Karl had a great quote during the ESPN telecast of the Trail Blazers game last week when asked about the Nuggets making no big moves over the summer. Karl cleverly retorted that he actually had three new players on board entering the 2009-10 campaign; an MVP candidate in Carmelo Anthony, an All-Star center in Nene and an All-Star shooting guard in J.R. Smith. I loved that quote and there's certainly something to be said about drastic changes that can go awry (see Cavaliers, Cleveland or Trail Blazers, Portland thus far). But it's still a big gamble to assume Nene and J.R. will suddenly evolve into All-Stars and carry the Nuggets to the promised land of an NBA title.
As the season wears on and teams become more financially desperate, a can't-miss-deal could conceivably fall into the Nuggets lap. Moreover, there's a big difference between paying a high-priced big man for an entire season versus a half season, and we can only hope that the Nuggets brass are amenable to pulling the trigger down the road if the opportunity presents itself.
That said, the Nuggets remaining trade exceptions of about $3.2 million (thanks, Chucky Atkins) and $3.7 million (ditto, Steven Hunter) don't give them the wiggle room required to steal Jeff Foster from what's sure to be a cash-strapped Pacers franchise (I mean, did you see how empty that barn in Indiana was last night?...wow) unless two other players are thrown in to make the money work, like Renaldo Balkman and Malik Allen. Not exactly "Pacers material." If only the Nuggets had a white guy getting paid about $3 million right now, a deal for Foster could be a slam dunk. And getting a guy like Gasol? Fuggedaboutit. Even though Memphis is guaranteed to be in dire straits financially, they're still not giving away an 18/10 guy who's paid just $3 million (still very cheap by NBA standards).
So as "Big Bertha" stays in the bag the reality of a season sans a legit center starts settling in. But if Warkentien and the Nuggets brass can somehow swing a deal for a big man with one of those other two trade exceptions, Warkentien just might win a second straight executive of the year award.
Photo courtesy of AP: Jack Dempsey.
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I’m a little disappointed that the trade exception wasn’t used. I think we can all agree the Nuggets could use a bit more beef up front. Gasol would’ve been ideal, hell even Hibbert looks good, but those teams aren’t dumb and they’re not dumping cheap but effective centers.
The contract extension for Balkman makes you wonder what the Nuggets plan for him is. Did they extend him for themselves or for another team? He has proven to be quite effective when given minutes and he’s not very expensive. I’m still a bit baffled as to why he’s not playing. Could he be on his way out for someone a bit bigger?
I’d like to see the Nuggets continue to look at centers but i just don’t know who is available. The Twolves are holding a fire sale but they don’t even have any centers to trade (Al Jeff is technically a PF and i don’t think they’d trade him).
Haywood would be nice from the Wiz but they’ve got all their cards in this year in an attempt to win a championship. JaVale McGee is already in the doghouse though, and is affordable. Might he be an option?
Other players who might be available include Alexis Ajinca (Cha) (not an upgrade from Petro), Samuel Dalembert (overpaid), Dampier (in the last year of his contract but plays for a conference contender), Hamed Haddadi (self-proclaimed superstar), Patrick O’Bryant (see Ajinca) and maybe Kurt “Crazy eyes” Thomas (if the bucks suck). Not exactly game changers.
by NugNugz on Nov 4, 2009 10:43 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Balkman and backup Bigs
Balkman was kept because it was cheaper to extend him than not to. Same reason that Thabo Sefalosha got an extension in OKC. His cap hold next summer would have been higher than the salary he’s going to actually get paid thanks to the extension.
As for adding a big, as much as it would have been awesome to steal Marc Gasol, that wasn’t going to happen. As the season goes I would expect the Nuggets to play smaller with JR at the 4 and Melo at the 4 to soak up some minutes from KMart and Nene. And hopefully Balkman can work his way into 10 minutes a night, but until and unless someone gets hurt I can’t see the Nuggs adding salary in the form of an underachieving big man who isn’t going to play much…
by ejb9 on Nov 4, 2009 11:26 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I still think the Nuggets need a legitimate, first guy off the bench, journeyman 7-footer. A guy that if he can’t slow down P.Gasol, O’Neal, Duncan or Howard; he can at least bang with them, rebound and wisely use six fouls. The problem is how to get one. My impression is that those guys only tend to change teams in multi-player trades. Trades like that tend to go as “We’ll give you one of our starters for one of your starters and a bench player for that 7-footer”. Usually these trades are made by mediocre teams trying to get to the next level.
So the first problem is which starter do you want to give up? I don’t think anyone is real anxious to give up any of our starters.
So I think the conversation about how to get that 7-footer starts
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
by Thursty on Nov 4, 2009 1:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
No Biggie
Even though I would like to see another quality big, is there really anyone out there that can realistically fit the bill at this time? Names are thrown around, but did we really have any chance of getting any of them this early in the season?
Otherwise, the talent pool (available bad players) is slim and why mess with a rotation and chemistry that appears to be working?
Wait a few more months and see where we are and if anyone wants to make a good deal.
by Pusherman on Nov 4, 2009 2:00 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
One thing we shouldn't over look
is free agent bonanza during this next off-season. If keeping the trade exemption helps defer some costs this season I think it might help justifying a big name signing for a worthwhile. Also I think Andrew might be right that as more teams see the new salary cap tightening they’ll get spooked and we might be able to find an affordable big we could let go if he’s not worth a contract.
Bleed Blue and Gold
by MileHighMonsters on Nov 4, 2009 2:02 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Let Us Not Forget the Girl That Brought Us Here...
This is not a post-up team. This is not a team that will win massive amounts of games by beating up on teams from the paint. Sure, K-Mart is fairly agressive, and Nene is the best on-ball defensive post player in recent Nugget’s history (Shot-blockers are not on-ball defenders), but what wins Denver games is a combination of an immensely precise offensive set with the first unit (along with exceptional on-ball defense) and the supremacy of the rhythm change brought on by the second unit (Birdman and Lawson are chaos incarnate).
Slowing it down and banging in the post is something for lesser teams to worry about.
And really, Jeff Foster?
by Firing On Alcindor on Nov 4, 2009 3:32 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
It isn’t really about being a post-up team. It’s about being able to defend post-up teams and being able to rebound with them. Offensive rebounds by players such as Gasol, Bynum, Odom, Duncan, Howard, etc. have had a tremendous impact on the outcome of games in the past. The Nuggets have not been rebounding well this season either.
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
by Thursty on Nov 5, 2009 10:18 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, not as big of a deal as originally thought
I remember a while ago people were making this out to be a huge move, myself included, but after watching how well we have started off the season I don’t really care that much. Nene is a legit candidate for All-Star Center in the West. Sure, compared to guys like Bynum, Duncan and Gasol he isn’t that tall, but he is tough as nails and bangs with them all game long. It would be nice to have a legit 7 ft center, but I’m not sweating it.
by GoldenNugget on Nov 4, 2009 3:37 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
In the interim
I just wish they could condition Nene to stuff the ball! Even though it’s early in the season, I just about lose it ever time he goes up soft and the ball drops off the rim. He also checks in and out of the game pouting about calls and loses focus. Granted, it would be great if he were taller, but he is a big body and can be very quick. I think his biggest problem is “bringing it” consistently and at least attempting to stuff it EVERY time he’s close to the rim! If he plays at the level he’s capable of consistently, he could be pretty dominate.
by BroncosRock! on Nov 4, 2009 3:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
i am a little
disappointed that nothing happened
by dumpster211 on Nov 4, 2009 4:17 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

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