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Game 12 Preview & Thread: Nuggets @ Clippers (8:30pm MDT)

Denver Nuggets at Los Angeles Clippers, Nov 20, 2009 8:30 PM MST


112009-kaman_mediumLOS ANGELES - After losing to the Clippers in the 2006 NBA playoffs, the Nuggets have owned L.A.'s weaker NBA franchise, losing just twice since and their last seven straight matchups.

Star-divide

What was once supposed to be a season of renewal for owner Donald Sterling's Clips has been nothing short of a grand disappointment.  After kicking off the season with an injury to first overall pick Blake Griffin, the Clippers came out of the gates losing nine of their first 13 games.  And there's no reason to believe that tonight won't be 10 of 14.

Simply put, there's no one on the Clippers who can guard Carmelo Anthony on a normal night, and Melo has had three days rest.  Good luck with that, Al Thornton.

The Clippers do pose one problem for the Nuggets, however: height.  Both Chris Kaman and former Nugget Marcus Camby have a substantial size advantage over Nene and Kenyon Martin, and the Nuggets struggled against taller teams last season.  And yet in spite of their height, the Clippers are as poor at rebounding as the Nuggets are (the Clippers rank 25th overall in total rebounds, the Nuggets 24th).  If the Nuggets play intelligently, they should be able to poach some offensive boards when the Clippers are napping on the glass...as they normally do.

Splitting my time between L.A. and Denver, I've been able to attend most of the Nuggets at Clippers games during the Carmelo Anthony Era.  The games are usually evenly fought in the first half, maybe even into the third quarter, and then the Nuggets remember that they're the Nuggets and the Clippers remember they're the Clippers, and our boys in powder blue and gold bring a W back to Denver.  I expect nothing short of a confident Nuggets victory tonight, and here are some players the Nuggets (and their fans) need to keep an eye on...

Clippers Stiffs

-Baron Davis: Shooting a ghastly 40% from the field, Davis has shot the Clippers out of games all season long with poor shot selection.  Even though he worked himself into great shape in the offseason, Davis is in danger of becoming nothing better than a more gainfully employed version of Allen Iverson.  Oh, and Davis is due almost $15 million...three seasons from now!

-Rasual Butler: What I thought was a good offseason signing by the Clips, Butler is shooting worse than Davis, connecting on just 36.7% of his shot attempts and a near career low 29.3% of three-pointers.

-Blake Griffin: The overall number one pick succumbed to the Clippers curse even before the regular season tipped off by fracturing his patella.

Clippers Non-Stiffs

-Chris Kaman: The aforementioned Kaman is having an All-Star caliber season, showing why Nene making the All-Star team as a center remains a stretch.  Kaman is putting up a career high 21.5 ppg on a career high 53.7% shooting from the field.  I'm not sure where I'll be sitting tonight, but I look forward to confirming whether or not Kaman remains on my All Shoulder Hair Team (Rudy Fernandez has been taken off after conducting some offseason grooming).

-Eric Gordon (injured tonight): He may be undersized for a shooting guard and have the funniest-looking pair of ears since Popeye Jones played in the NBA, but this sophomore can score and does so efficiently.

-Marcus Camby: Say what you want about Camby, but the 14-year veteran still gets the job done with his rebounding and shot blocking.  It also shouldn't be surprising that Camby has appeared in all 13 games and this just happens to be a contract year for the former Nugget center. 

Opposing View: Clips Nation

 

Photo courtesy of AP: Gus Ruelas

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Andrew said -

“The aforementioned Kaman is having an All-Star caliber season, showing why Nene making the All-Star team as a center remains a stretch.”

This is the first time I have heard that nene might have a difficult time becoming an all-star because of another player’s talent. If you were to listen to our friends at Altitude you would know nene has a shot at becoming an all-star only because of other player’s injuries.

Thanks for at least giving nene the benefit of the doubt as a professional instead of being some sort of sideline thing that eats the leftovers of injured players.

by spokenwar on Nov 20, 2009 11:52 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I think Eric Gordon might be out tonight

Due to a g-g-groin, g-g-groin injury (to quote Sam Malone).

by Artimus Mangilord on Nov 20, 2009 12:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

This game

has me worried for some reason.

by CCH on Nov 20, 2009 3:45 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Me too

I always get worried when the Nuggets play a bad team. Because the fact of the matter is it is difficult to get it up for bad teams some times. The Nuggets are famous for playing with a lack of intensity against scrubs.

Denver pasted Toronto the last game, but it took a 3rd quarter run for the better team, the home team to assert itself.

But maybe being on ESPN will be enough to motivate my favorite team?

by Fly Agaric on Nov 20, 2009 4:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Kaman sucks

And he’s ugly. I don’t care what the stats say, he’s a stiff.

by stiffy on Nov 20, 2009 5:20 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

he's so ugly...

he’s so ugly they left him off of the all-star ballot. Wait a tick, they left Eric Gordon off too!

by All Day Jay on Nov 20, 2009 7:33 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Caveman

is garbage, he’ll stuff a stat sheet while healthy, but the guy has always been inconsistent and injured.

I still can’t figure out why so many people picked the Clips as a playoff team over PHX and Houston. That’s just retarded

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 8:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Clippers

Have a nice collection of individual talents but their veterans are most past their prime and don’t heed enough minutes or shots to their young guys. They lack a glue guy, a quality distributor and someone to set the tone defensively. They should have a bright future once Blake and those young duded become the core of their team.

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 8:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Nuggets win big.

Or at least I hope so, cause I took the over on my parlay card tonight. I think over 207 is a good bet.

Go nuggets!

by All Day Jay on Nov 20, 2009 7:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Can't sleep on any team

But you can probably lightly nap on the Clippers. Just keep playing your game. Pass, play some D, take good shots. Not hard to figure out.

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 8:31 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

What's goin on...

Nugs Nation!?!?!

I hear some of you guys about being worried about this game. The old Nuggets would have definitely lost this game. They would have been out partying all night, and on top of that played down to their competition. But with CB and a much more focused Melo, don’t worry too much. It may be a close game til about halfway through the third and then they will take care of biz. I feel a nice showing from JR tonight is in the works.

Lets get a win.

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Nov 20, 2009 8:38 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Do you think the Clippers crowd all came in the same car?

It’s good to see they’re doing their best to save the evironment.

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 8:41 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

They should offer...

free Sparks tix to get people into the building. lol

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Nov 20, 2009 8:44 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I hate these uniforms.

Replace these alts w/ a retro rainbow jersey.

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 8:44 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Bah

I’ll be watching this game in its entirety regardless of how it goes. Nothing better to do. :/
Hoping for some highlight plays though.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 8:45 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

AC

is he still out?

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 8:46 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I think so

Birdman is also out in this game… All that money he got blew out his knee

by CombatChuk on Nov 20, 2009 8:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

good start

we are hitting our shots and moving the ball well…billups 3 assists already

by stan_26 on Nov 20, 2009 8:49 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

He gets those dropping again and we're going to be tough to stop

And I think he will. He had a few slumps like this last year and with Detroit before that – he always comes out of it eventually, and we’ve got a lot of season left.

Almost wonder if the lack of pressure (we haven’t really needed him to hit those so far) is a factor…

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 8:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Two bad calls against Melo

Like how we’re hitting the boards early though

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 8:52 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Why aren’t we winning by 40 yet? Balkman should be in by the 2nd quarter of this game.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 8:54 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

exactly…and I’m predicting 30 for TLaw right now.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 8:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

melo

5-5 field goals 5-5 from the line

by stan_26 on Nov 20, 2009 9:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Refs won't help us

We’re gonna have to take it.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 11:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else feel like CB has kinda sucked so far this year? What’s the deal with that?

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:01 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Only

aspect he’s ‘sucking’ in is his jump-shooting. I’m not worried about that too much at this point. If we were in need of more scoring, we’d sign Iverson.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It seems like his passes have been a little wild and erratic too. And it doesn’t feel like he’s playing the court general role as much or as well as he did last year. But maybe I’m just imagining it?

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

gotta disagree with that. Haven’t seen any signs of that yet.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It could just be that when Melo is playing as well as he is then you want the ball in his hands as much as possible.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

chauncey..

he is just struggling shooting the ball..he is still the florr general he was last yera and he still dishes out alot of assists per game. he will be fine once he gets his shot going again.

by stan_26 on Nov 20, 2009 9:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the only thing that's sucking is his shooting.

His leadership and passing ability are still as great as ever.

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 9:03 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Said it above - he's always had a few of these mini-slumps a year

But he always gets it back, and he still runs the offense well. I think he’s had a nagging (ankle?) injury too.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 9:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

His minutes are down

I think he will need to adjust to it a little and his efficiency will go back up, I kind of see Chauncey as a 3rd or 4th scoring option at this point so he needs to get used to it

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 9:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Predictions?

On who’s going to have the best ‘highlight play’ for us tonight?

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:04 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

i reckon nene

he will shatter the ring with a monsterous dunk!

by stan_26 on Nov 20, 2009 9:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I’m beginning to think we should trade for DeAndre Jordan. Can we please play some defense so I can stop having these thoughts?

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand

How Melo’s been doing this?!

Not that i’m not happy, but even as the best pure scorer in the NBA, he’s still human.

I’m beginning to question that now. Wow.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:07 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

He’s not pure human…he’s at least 6% THC. ;-)

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't remember which poster said it...

…but he looks like Neo at the end of “The Matrix.” Something clicked inside his head, and now it’s just effortless.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 9:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait,

Are all of you guys watching it on ESPN?

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:07 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

nope…Marlowe and Hastings for me thanks.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

I wish I had that option. I gotta admit, i’m not actually in Denver, or from Denver. So yeah…

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

They’re great. They bitch about the refs so I don’t have to.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding

Another example of ‘playing down to their competition’. When it’s even being reported on national TV that we tend to do this, it must be a problem.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

also

i’m watching this on a crappy feed, things are a bit fuzzy but did i see malik allen in the game?

by Zachm219 on Nov 20, 2009 9:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about all that

Clips are still an NBA team – they’re gonna make a few runs. And I think there’s something to the notion that teams expend a lot of energy just trying to keep it close in the 1st half. Then we bring the speed unit in the 3rd and step on their throats.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 9:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't just that run

It’s sloppy defense (uncontested dunks) the entire quarter as well. Did you see that wide open 3 that just cut the game to 2?

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I just don’t know that we play down to our competition any more than the next team.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 9:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Ty and JR in.

Time to turn it around.

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 9:14 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Memo to George Karl

12-0 Clipper run would usually a good time to call a time out

by CombatChuk on Nov 20, 2009 9:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Take Malik Allen out

Can’t play D or catch the basketball on O

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 9:16 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Are we really losing this game not? Sheesh.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Well then.

17-0 run by the Clippers. Staples Center: Where Amazing Happens.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:17 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

17-0 run? I’m not even mad…that’s just impressive.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:17 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

timeout

later is better then nothing i guess

by Zachm219 on Nov 20, 2009 9:17 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Clips got some players

Really shouldn’t be as bad as they are.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 9:18 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

really…the team better not lose this game or else… ;)

by Murph3000 on Nov 20, 2009 9:19 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Who is the only Clipper ever to be named league MVP?

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:20 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

My theory:

There’s some secret trade talks in the works with the Clippers, and the Clippers only accept it if we give them the win tonight.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:21 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Griffin for AC?

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I say we just

kidnap Kaman. Then give him a haircut.

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 9:22 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Is AC active?

by Murph3000 on Nov 20, 2009 9:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

We SCORED!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Look at all the stars behind Griffin!

There’s the dude from Dave Mathews Band, and Turtle from Entourage. All the big ones come out for the Clippers.

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 9:24 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I’m pretty sure I saw Corey Feldman!

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh…they’ve gone and pissed off Maybyner. It’s all over now.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Why does LA have two teams? There’s really no point. I think the Clippers should move to Seattle.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:28 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Or Vegas maybe?

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Bassy Telfair

is scoring on us. Christ.

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 9:28 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I think

they should get rid of the Clippers all together

by docescobar07 on Nov 20, 2009 9:28 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I could score on us right now

by Murph3000 on Nov 20, 2009 9:29 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Is that the same as scoring ‘with’ yourself? ’Cause I do that all the time. ;-)

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaahahahaha…well played sir.

by Murph3000 on Nov 20, 2009 9:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Melo has the “alright…watch me fix what you guys f’d up” look on his face.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Uh-oh

Does that mean iso to Melo every play again? I had hoped we were done with that.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If it gets the job done then…

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but unlike years prior...

He’s trying to get his teammates involved instead of doing it alone.

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 9:42 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN just did a crowd shot

A UCLA jersey, two Nuggets shirts, a Lakers jersey … and no Clippers gear. And yet it’s ALMOST A DOUBLE-DIGIT DEFICIT.

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 9:34 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Forget the ‘almost.’

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 9:34 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

We’re just toying with them….wait til the 3Q.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

where is earl?

by xyxtem on Nov 20, 2009 9:35 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

sigh come the fuck on.

by Murph3000 on Nov 20, 2009 9:35 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

No more. Time to start boys.

by Murph3000 on Nov 20, 2009 9:35 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

They need

some of Bird’s meth, or blow, or whatever it was. A latte, something.

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 9:38 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Defense is swiss cheese

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 20, 2009 9:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

too bad it’s not gouda…that shit is the shit!!!

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

or havarti as well

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 20, 2009 9:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Offensive rebounds

Again and again and again

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 9:41 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Wow…this is fucking pathetic.

by Murph3000 on Nov 20, 2009 9:42 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not too worried

If it starts this way in the second half, then I’ll be concerned.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 20, 2009 9:44 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

We just can’t dig too big of a hole,need to get it to single digits by half

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 9:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t want Kaman on the Nugs….I wouldn’t want to have to look at that dude every game.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:44 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

He looks like

the younger neighbor in The ’Burbs. I hope someone gets that reference.

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 9:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Good call!

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Or

the original Francis Dolarhyde from Red Dragon.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 20, 2009 9:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno – we could use a big fugly of our own to throw against Pau.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 9:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I immediately thought Greg Oden.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone under 45, preferably.

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 9:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

They're bringing in

STEVE FREAKING NOVAK. In the first freaking half. Holy balls.

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 9:45 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

3 traveling on ’Melo

by xyxtem on Nov 20, 2009 9:45 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Two solid defensive plays by Graham to end the half.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:48 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

down 10 is not so bad.

good thing we played well for the first 10 minutes of the game.

by 808inDenver on Nov 20, 2009 9:48 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yep

The Nugs got ’em where they want ’em.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 20, 2009 9:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

suckers!!!

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Almost got out of hand there

But , yeah down only 10 is good considering how bad that 2nd quarter went

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 9:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I would hope GK doesn’t even have to say anything about that. He should just let them sit there quietly.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 20, 2009 9:52 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Although I doubt it, I really, really, really hope somebody throws a chair in the locker room. Or punches Malik Allen in the nuts.

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 9:52 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I’d be surprised if anyone in the locker room knows who Malik Allen is.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 9:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

What I'm hoping now..

…is that the players can ALL step it up. Otherwise GK might replace someone with AC. Then it’s over.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 9:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

"And AC, remembah...

YOU…are my number 1…mmmGUY…"

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 9:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

"Do you know how to play winning hard-nosed basketball?

You play basketball like Ed Gennero played basketball! A guy who gave his life for this basketball team. He was a 5-foot-2 power forward, and he played like a goddamn wild man! No! Like a goddamn rampaging beast! And that’s the way you gotta do it. You go out there, you tear their fucking heads off, and you shit down their necks! Let us pray."

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 9:57 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Oh my God

Defense! You know, you can do that every time down the court, Denver.

by MadAdam on Nov 20, 2009 10:10 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Tough, tough game so far

Someone off the bench will need to step up and score

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 10:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Dammit Chauncey

We needed that one.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 10:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

horrific

and this is after 1 game in the last 6 days

by Rainbow skyline on Nov 20, 2009 10:19 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Different team on the road

I really think GK’s comment about going .500 on the road will affect the team,

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 10:21 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Question: How is this bad coaching?

It’s too easy to blame GK for some of you, but it makes no sense. This has just been bad play since the end of the 1st quarter. Every player on the team has had a bad game. I don’t see any way to blame it on GK.

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 10:25 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Bad effort by everyone

We had a 12 point lead and LA nearly went on a 20-0 run before we got a timeout. Same thing at the start of the 2nd half. We would be losing this game either way but so far but I would argue the coaching hasn’t helped

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 10:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

is this the year chauncey is over the hill? this like a 8 game slump now

by 808inDenver on Nov 20, 2009 10:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Pass the fucking ball, Melo

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 10:28 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Interesting seeing karl get T'd up

after reading the interview posted here. its interesting if he that has anything to do with it

by skithebert on Nov 20, 2009 10:30 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Possible

But that guy walked up to him and got right in his face – that’s pretty fucked up, even for NBA refs. Karl had every right to be pissed. Last I checked, the dudes in black and white aren’t supposed to be the instigators…

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 10:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

"Giving it back" isn't really in their job description

It’d be one thing if he was just talking back, but to actually physically confront like that was wayyy out of line. I can’t remember ever seeing it from a ref.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 10:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I know

It was messed up, the officials are calling everything now. GK probably just said something to get the ref pretty upset

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 10:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Refs looking to finish us off

Nothing like an NBA game to make you appreciate NFL officials.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 10:30 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

We should just put the bench in

All this lineup does on defense is foul

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 10:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Refs will keep calling it tight

The only way we can get back is start running and getting more shots up

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 10:35 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Bad shot.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 10:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I try to never blame the refs, but this is unbelievable.

Melo has 4 clippers on top of him at one end: No call, then Ty Lawson grazes someone arm at the other end and it’s a foul.

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 10:40 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

This seems to happen sometimes when Melo comes out blazing hot

Guys get in sit n stare mode, no one else finds a rhythm, then when Melo cools off, we’re screwed.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 10:42 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Score in transition

Only way to catch up against these refs

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 10:42 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Heh, Muse.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 10:42 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

That sucks.

It’s not their best song by a mile.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 10:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

how much did JR drink last night? he is absolute garbage tonight.

by CCH on Nov 20, 2009 10:46 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Ooh, lucky.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 10:48 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

12 pt game

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 10:48 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Fellas!

let’s get this!

by CCH on Nov 20, 2009 10:50 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Put your rally...um...shooting sleeves on!!

What a drive by Ty

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 10:50 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Down 10 on the road with 10 min left? Against the Clips?

Very doable. C’mon Nugs – time to remind these bitches who they are!

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 10:50 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Just have to keep playing our game and don't start forcing it

keep playing solid defense and move the ball on offense. Come on Nuggets we have got this!!

by ColoradoAggie11 on Nov 20, 2009 10:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Eight.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 10:54 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Dang, back to ten.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 10:54 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Okay, eight.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 10:55 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Get back in there Baron

Feel free to start chucking

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 10:55 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Poor J.R. -- I mean Earl.

Open 3, and whacks the rim.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 10:56 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

WHOA!!

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 10:57 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

What a beauty.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 10:58 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

These refs are unbelievable

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 10:58 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Woot, Nene.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 10:59 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

NENE

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 10:59 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Smith's waking up now

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 11:00 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

MELO TO THE LINE

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 11:01 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Carmelo's "all-around game"

All this talk at the beginning of the season about Carmelo being an early MVP candidate was mainly due to his apparent development of an all around game. What happened to that? Is Carmelo willing/capable of doing anything other than scoring?

3 rebounds in 35 minutes… when was the last time ’Melo had more than 8 rebounds? Is it that hard for Carmelo to average 8-9 rebounds with the “bigs” that we have on this roster?

by VancouverNugget on Nov 20, 2009 11:01 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Defence.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 11:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Lawson is playing excellent

even on defense. very impressed

by skithebert on Nov 20, 2009 11:02 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

No calls

Can you really blame the refs when Carmelo is putting his head down and forcing it every time down the court? Would you have the confidence to make that call every time?

by VancouverNugget on Nov 20, 2009 11:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

They are just confused because it is the Staples Center

And they think we are playing the lakers with Thornton getting Pau/Kobe’s calls

by ColoradoAggie11 on Nov 20, 2009 11:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

See the Milwaukee game

You gotta live with the calls and try something else. There is more than 1 way to score Melo should know that

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 11:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

Yeah, I’m tired of this Melo iso already. I cringe everytime he’s getting the ball now.

by Agaliarept on Nov 20, 2009 11:03 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Who would you rather get the ball?

No one else has done shit tonight.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 11:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

JR

At least he is capable of passing it once he gets in the lane.

by VancouverNugget on Nov 20, 2009 11:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Open shots

for everyone else if they double or triple him.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 20, 2009 11:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Earl.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 11:06 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

GK you can't take Ty out...

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 11:07 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I know

they’re treating him like he’s an elite player.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 20, 2009 11:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lets see some D!

and chauncey penetrate and kick out to JR so he can rain some 3s

by skithebert on Nov 20, 2009 11:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

6 pts - plenty of time

Now let’s see some D!

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 11:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Hey guys and gals, what happened to the lead we had earlier in the game? Just checking in now for the first time since the first

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2009 11:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Geez.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 11:12 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

15 turnovers in the first half? Damn Guess that answers my question

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2009 11:13 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Chauncey

Is he actually hampered by an ankle injury or has he regressed as much as it appears?

by VancouverNugget on Nov 20, 2009 11:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

JR = 0-5 from 3-point land

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2009 11:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

i mean, Earl. Earl Smith.

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2009 11:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He's been cold all game.

Woke up only recently…

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 11:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

hah that didn’t last long. I didn’t catch the update, so thanks

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2009 11:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I've never seen so much

respect given by the refs to such a crappy team.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 20, 2009 11:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Agree

Nuggets also did their part by laying down in the 2nd quarter

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 11:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Gave up at least 15 points on uncontested dunks

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 11:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Mardy Collins

Isn’t he the guy ’Melo sucker punched in the face?

by VancouverNugget on Nov 20, 2009 11:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

There ya go JR. Start shooting from half court and it’s all good

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

Those deep threes are just crazy.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Great play by Kaman

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

just need a stop with a rebound

and then a quick two. full court pressure. Then draw up that play for the three to go to overtime.

by ColoradoAggie11 on Nov 20, 2009 11:21 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I say let it tick, then foul

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2009 11:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

and by that I mean, after the Den possession

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2009 11:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

D was bad

But lack of pts from CB and JR really hurt us.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 11:21 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

He didn't have a good defensive game though

and his rebounding and passing were not that great.

by ColoradoAggie11 on Nov 20, 2009 11:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

I think the reason it appears everyone else had a bad game is because of Melo. He was hot in the first quarter and thought he could carry that through the whole game. Melo is a great player, but even he can’t stay that hot for 48 minutes. We’d almost be better to limit Melo’s shots until the 2nd half, at least that way the other players wouldn’t get into “stop and stare” mode. That’s not even mentioning Melo’s defense tonight…. how many points did Rasual Butler have??

by VancouverNugget on Nov 20, 2009 11:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever man

Melo’s not the point guard. He’s not responsible for everyone else getting theirs. And other guys had plenty of open looks – they just couldn’t hit. That ain’t Melo’s fault.

As for the D, that was bad across the board – Melo was no more to blame than anyone else.

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 11:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Melo took 20 shots in 42 minutes and went to the line 13 times. He did have 6 turnovers and 4 assists but he wasn’t the reason the whole team didn’t defend the Clippers bench. If you want to say Melo caused Chauncey to put up that embarrassing performance I think that’s ridiculous. Honestly there were too many big Clipper runs and the defense disappearing for long stretches caused the loss, so that’s on everyone.

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 11:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

you are so fucking dumb...

what is with all these guys recently, melo starts playing great and now lots of ppl saying he plays like shit and blaming it all on him… i rly dont c anything he could have dont better except limit his TO (which at least two should have been fouls called)…. seriously im not trying to hate but damn its annoying… if you wanna blame some1, blame chauncey, he had a horrid game

by hvino on Nov 20, 2009 11:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Why draw up a play? This thing is done

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2009 11:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Refs going to find the bookie.

They must have made a killing w/ the odds of this game. Just kidding…kind of.

J.R. is my homeboy

by Greyson on Nov 20, 2009 11:25 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

aren’t you aware of the repercussions for speaking out against the refs?

They will find you. THEY WILL FIND YOU

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by FrankD on Nov 20, 2009 11:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, give some credit to the Clippers...

But this is what happens when you play a lazy game of basketball; anyone can beat you.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 20, 2009 11:26 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

ya i rly wud give credit if...

the refs didnt give them the game in the 3rd… whenever we got close they started calling random shit… even the dumba$$ mark jackson realized it… damn

by hvino on Nov 20, 2009 11:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

potland lost

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Nov 20, 2009 11:27 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

earl needs to start

smith can take some pressure off him

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Nov 20, 2009 11:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

smith starts

billups just has to worry about setting the other guys up. when afflalo starts the best defender will be on billups. earl in the starting line up chuancey can be the 5th scoring option instead of the third. if you want to kill a snake cut off it’s head. stop billups and the offense stops.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Nov 20, 2009 11:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

the game was lost

when he came back in. he owes an apology to the team for how much he mailed this one it. I love the guy but that was awful, AC could not have played worse and probably wouldn’t have been beat to a key loose ball by a 7-foot serial killer looking stiff.

by Teekalong on Nov 20, 2009 11:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

the thing is

i understand hes struggling with his shot, but hes not even playing defense or hustling.

by 808inDenver on Nov 20, 2009 11:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Non-agressive

Chauncey should be able to get to the line when we are having an offensive drought, he only took 4 free throws in 30 minutes and scored 5 points total. One of the guards needs to look to score, that means Chauncey or Afflalo in the starting lineup.

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 11:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Shit (Clips?) happens

Bounce back strong tmw against the Bulls. Night all!

by CraftyB on Nov 20, 2009 11:38 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

we lost to the damn clippers...

wow horrible execution by the nuggets… bad game by chauncey… bench had no energy without birdman… nene melo and lawson actually played well… but seriously the clippers got so many calls its not even funny… melo was getting beat up in the lane… jeez

the only positives i could c out of this lose is that we will destroy chicago at home tmrw… and mayb it persuaded the FO to be more active looking for a back up big… likes its prty sad when malik allen is playing… and kmart played a lot of center…

by hvino on Nov 20, 2009 11:38 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Not sure we needed to double Kaman so much

He wouldn’t have made those shots all night, and it allowed them for 3 or 4 wide open kickout threes, and drives to the hoop by Thornton

by runningdonut on Nov 20, 2009 11:43 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

It’s obvious Chauncey is getting old he can’t finish around the rim anymore… we must take ball handling duty off Billups.

What is not lost with age is shooting… so he has to play off the ball more. We need to have someone else who handles the ball more than him, so he becomes secondary, instead of primary. His age is showing when he’s the primary ball handler… but as a secondary with the role to shoot the ball, he will be rejuvenated.

In other words, we need Ty Lawson to start at PG or J.R. at SG alongside Billups… they’re to be the primary ball handler…

Wash it off in the shower, got a game tomorrow in Denver vs. Bulls, gotta take care of business.

by SnakefromHell on Nov 20, 2009 11:44 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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