Nuggets get pass happy against Raptors... (Nuggets/Raptors recap)
The Nuggets outscored the Raptors in the second half 66-48 en route to their eighth win of the season. Along the way, Billups racks up 10 of his teams' 34 assists.
In the first half of tonight's game ... the Raptors couldn't seem to miss and the Nuggets couldn't seem to get on track defensively. With the score tied at 64 a piece heading into the locker room, I was a bit concerned with the Nuggets focus in their defensive rotations because the Raptors were getting a lot of open looks and making them.
Before the contest I said this could be a "trap game" for Denver after coming off a big win with a lot of rest. The first half didn't do anything to quell my fears. But then the second half began and once again Denver came out ready to go in the third quarter and looked to have their killer instinct back and took control of the game's tempo.
The Nuggets held down the fast-forward button as the Raptors moved in slow motion after the break. Being at the game I couldn't really count, but Denver may have had 152 straight possessions that led to fastbreak points. (A bit of a stretch?) The Nuggets came out of the locker room and just owned the tempo of the second half. The Raptors started missing contested shots and the Nuggets took advantage in a major way. You could see the Raptors become deflated and Chirs Bosh even earned himself a technical foul after getting whistled for a double foul along with Birdman.
There was a stretch in the third quarter where J.R. Smith and Chris Andersen walked up to the scorers table, but were not able to get into the game for a large chunk of time because there was no stop in the Nuggets' fastbreak action. By the time play came to a stop you could see Toronto was worn out and the Nuggets starters were a bit gassed themselves ... as Lawson, Smith, and Bird entered the contest.
The passing got contagious as the game progressed and Billups (10), Lawson (6), Melo (5), Nene (5), and Double A (4) all finished with more than four assists. Sometimes the ball was being whipped around so fast that I thought the Raptors players were going to get dizzy and fall over ... then the play would end with a wide open dunk or shot for Denver.
That was a very fun game to be at with all the offensive firepower and Denver earned a 130-112 victory with a great effort in the second half. Definitely a tale of two halves.
Player Notes:
CB1 - logged his second game of double digit assists of the season. Denver is 2-0 in those contests. This was one of those games where the veteran guard realized his offensive prowess would be best served getting his teammates involved ... and he did just that tonight. Billups will probably always find ways to be useful on the floor.
Ty Lawson - "the Rook" logged meaningful minutes as the primary backup once again with A.C. on the shelf. Lawson's effectiveness allowed Billups to play just 27 minutes. More games where Billups plays less than 30 minutes and the Nuggets win, will prove very valuable down the road. Lawson made a play on a fastbreak that just shows his basketball I.Q. ... Amir Johnson was chasing him down on a breakaway and instead of trying to get the layup off over the bigger guy, Lawson used his body to shield Johnson off and almost made the difficult layup anyway. We've seen body defense on layups become a staple of the Rookie's game since getting some layups blocked in the preseason.
Double A - as he continues to get more comfortable with his new teammates we're starting to see the all-around game that Afflalo talked about wanting to be known for when he was traded to Denver. He shot 5-9 on the night and 2-4 from downtown ... it's nice to have a weapon like him. There seems to be some nice chemistry between Lawson and Afflalo as well. Lawson knows when he drives the lane that Afflalo is going to be in the corner waiting to launch one of his text book threes.
J.R. Smith - the Nuggets are a different calibar team with #5 on the floor. J.R. loves to toy with his defender ... especially if his defender is not as quick as him. Tonight Smith abused Marco Belinelli with his offensive arsenal. When Belinelli sank off and gave J.R. room he was burying threes (5-9) and when Belinelli tried to play J.R. straight up Smith would call for a clear out and take the ball to the rack. Belinelli had a nice night shooting the ball, but he was not up for guarding Smith. It was nice to see J.R. find his stroke and yet remain aggressive attacking the rim for 29 points.
Melo - had it going tonight ... his shot was falling, but it seemed like he knew he was starting to force some stuff so he started using his brilliant passing ability to find wide open shots for his teammates and they were WIDE OPEN ... maybe because the defense figured he was going to shoot. He scored 32 points in three quarters of basketball and didn't even play the fourth quarter as George Karl has adopted the superstar mentality with Melo ... meaning he may sit to start the fourth and then be used only if necessary. My favorite play that Melo made ... after stealing the ball with the quarter winding down in the third Melo drove baseline and drew a foul. He then walked over to the crowd and encouraged them to cheer the teams' effort in the period. Nothing better than players recognizing the crowd and mixing it up a little bit (no, Ron Artest does not typically mix it up correctly with the crowd.)
Renaldo Balkman - saw 11 minutes as K-Mart found himself in a touch of early foul trouble. Balkman wasn't effective and was trying to guard the massive Andrea Bargnani ... total mismatch. Balkman's hustle unfortunately didn't become a factor tonight.
K-Mart - had a nice game and got out on the fastbreak a few times and was rewarded for doing so with a couple nice throw downs. I don't know if there is another player on the team that can fire the crowd up with a dunk the way Martin can ... maybe Bird ... sometimes Nene, but a K-Mart dunk just has that anger behind it that lets you know it's a big dunk and probably a momentum changer.
Nene - had perhaps his best game of the season. He was attacking very quickly ... as soon as he got the ball he was on the move with it going to the rim with a pretty left baby hook. Usually Nene will get in trouble when he holds the ball too long, but when he attacks quick the way he did tonight ... guys can't stay with him. Nene notched his third double-double on the year with 20 points (season high) and 10 rebounds. Denver is now 3-0 when Nene has a double-dip.
Birdman - had a block where his elbow was just about above the rim it seemed. It was nice to see some of that Bird back. There was another play where he tried for a finger-roll on the baseline and came up just short ... he jumped a bit too early with the ball as his window for a clear path wasn't very open, so I don't think it was a lack of hops or anything like that. There were also a couple plays where after setting a pick, Bird rolled to the hoop and the ball hit him in the back as he wasn't expecting the pass. On the second one you could see the frustration on Bird's face ... I believe Lawson threw the pass and the chemistry will come eventually. Some of Nuggets Nation (including myself to a degree) are worried about the Bird and his ability this season. Suffering injuries to your legs (especially nagging ones like he's had) are very frustrating things ... I think we'll see a more explosive Bird as the season presses on.
Malik Allen, Joey Graham, Johan Petro - the end of the bench guys played very little late in the fourth quarter. I was surprised that Karl chose to use Balkman over Graham because Karl has a tendency to use guys who used to play for former teams ... Petro got some run against the Thunder whenever Denver played them. Speaking of Petro ... he was wearing sneakers that was white with a lot of yellow on it ... for some reason it looked like he was wearing two school buses out there. (I'm also a bit concerned about Afflalo playing in Adidas Superstar shoes ... they just don't seem like great shoes for bball, maybe he'd be even better in some Jumpman's?)
And speaking of former players ... Sonny Weems has found a home in Toronto this season. Weems played 27 minutes and scored 12 points. It was nice to see him get some burn in Denver and mix it up with his old teammates.
Photo courtesy of AP Photos: David Zalubowski
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andersen
is so focused playing above the rim he is not ready for passes in the paint. lawson may be on to something by hitting him in the head with the ball on the pick and roll. dwight howard last seasons block shot king had 3 blocks in the first 5 games then had 7 blocks in the next 2 games.chris will put everything together once his knee feels better.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
He has the worst hands
At least he does his job, which is rebound and block.
"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.
guard play
afflalo was the only guard to play more than 30 minutes. amazing thing about earl tonight is he played less than 22 minutes and had 29 points.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
Yeah
I pointed this out earlier, Spellcheck played a game-high 33 minutes IIRC. Intriguing if you ask me.
19 offense rebounds
That’s how many the Raptor’s got in their loss tonight. Denver had 3. The way we are playing I know it is hard to nitpick but it’s concerning nonetheless.I realize we give up size to a lot of teams but part of it is just putting a body on someone under the basket. I am hoping that Balkman, Graham, even JR and Aflac realize they need to help get on those defensive rebounds.
What can I say though, good win. This is the way the Nuggets are built with such an explosive offense. As long as we have ball movement like that and limit the turnovers on offense we can score a whole bunch of points.
rebounding formula
the guards collectively get 10 rebounds and 10 rebounds each from the center and power forward positions. that brings the total to 30 rebounds minimum. the small forward spot is the wild card that makes the difference. melo and earl had 1 rebound each but carried the offense.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
yea its not good
can anyone look up if we’ve outrebounded any of the teams we’ve played? I suspect we haven’t
ouch.
that off rebound stat hurts. I agree
by GottaLoveMelo on Nov 18, 2009 9:06 AM MST up reply actions
In all fairness it had to get an offensive rebound out of the bottom of the net . .
I don’t have a problem with 3 of reb if we shoot 62% and get to the line 35 times but giving up 19 to the Raptors is poor. Given that Toronto missed 49 shots if the Nugs had a good def rebound %, we should give up 10-15 off boards. So that means 6 fewer off boards would about average.
On the other hand turning the ball over only 12 times in the fast paced a game offsets that rebounding loss as well. If the Nugs go small (Lawson, Smith, Billups, Affalo all getting significant minutes), they should be able to handle the rock w/o the turnovers . . part of the offset fromt he board disadvantage.
by Frontrange on Nov 18, 2009 9:37 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Great points.
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by Nate Timmons on Nov 18, 2009 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
hey
anyone else has the same problem? On the home page of denverstiffs, I only see the latest 2 entries.
We had some site outages, but they should be fixed now.
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by Nate Timmons on Nov 18, 2009 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
IT takes care of that stuff!!
Let’s just assume you were thanking them … haha
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by Nate Timmons on Nov 19, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
Pattern emerging
Is anyone else noticing a pattern in these games? They play teams close to halftime, then make defensive adjustments at half, and takeover the game in the third quarter, allowing Billups and Anthony to get a lot of rest. It appears to me that this is due to both coaching adjustments in the defense, and in the players intensity. Hopefully this continues.
Is it me, or does birdman put grease on his hands prior to the games. It seems like every pass he fumbles or doesn’t catch at all. He needs to get some practice receiving interior passes.
I was going to post something similar. We’ve seen a pattern that started last year that especially in home games, it’s close for the first half maybe even into the thrid quarter, but then they blow the game open. I believe that the other teams are expending a lot of energy to keep the game close and they just can’t keep it up for the entire 4 quarters. The altitude may have something to do with that, but it also has to be to some extent the energy off the bench. This will be even more evident with Lawson coming off the bench. Look what happens when you’re the other team, you’ve just about done everything you could to keep up with Melo, Billups, Nene et al and just when they are going to the bench, here comes Lawson, Bird and JR to speed things up a bit. I don’t necessarily mean that teams have trouble running with the starters either. They tend to wear teams out in the half court offense too. Actually sometimes I think the other teams starters get worn out because they are scoring so easily themselves, they’re just not used to it.
Whatever the reason the opponents really seem to get worn out in the second half of games in Denver.
We had a Petro sighting last night. He looked a little better than he usually does, but that isn’t saying much. The thing is that if he could improve that much say every week, then he might be ready for about 5 or 10 significant minutes toward the end of the season and maybe get some minutes in the playoffs.
The Nuggets seem as if they don’t know anything about boxing out. Hastings keeps saying that they need to get a body on people, but I don’t think many know what he is talking about. Many times the Nuggets have rebounding position, but they don’t box out and by box out I mean that they need to stick their butts into the guy behind them and work their feet to try to move that guy back. I think they’ve depended on their jumping ability and athleticism for so long coming up the ranks that they just aren’t used to it in the NBA and haven’t developed the habit. If you do a good job boxing out you can pick up the rebound off the floor instead of at the rim. You’ll also start getting those rebounding fouls that help put the other guys into foul trouble
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
It's crazy to compare Denver's bench to other teams in the league.
Very few teams possess the speed, athleticism, and scoring punch that Denver has. Last season even A.C. ran like a wild man when he entered the game and upgrading from his pace pushing to Lawson’s is looking like a major factor this season already.
Think about it … what benches would you trade for Denver’s? Not too many … if any at all.
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by Nate Timmons on Nov 18, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
I’m trying to figure out what I wrote that prompted that response? I’m not interested in trading benches, my point was that just when the opponent is thinking they’re going to get a break when the starters go to the bench, here come the reserves to teach them otherwise.
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
He was just making a comment
He was just adding to your comment, not arguing with you.
Ya, I was agreeing with you. Just saying it's crazy when you think about how good Denver's bench is.
Internet tone screwed me!
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by Nate Timmons on Nov 18, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
Remember last season's 3rd quarter meltdown syndrome?
It was as routine as the opening tip off. We’d build a 17 point lead at the half and piss it all away in the first 8 minutes f the 3rd. Every game I’d be cursing at the box “Why the **** did you do that?” or “Just grab the ****ing ball!” or my favorite “If AC turns the ball over one more time…”
I like the strategy this year much more, as do my wife and neighbors. Put em away early, rest your stars, get your bench players some decent minutes in the 4th.
I must admit that in the 1st half I was thinking that we may see a record high points total for the game, and I worried that Denver would get into a shoot out wth a team that shoots the lights out. Very nice job by GK and the starting 5 to just out run the Raptors in the 3rd and wear em down.
by Joelsopinion on Nov 18, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
The third quater meltdown was more of a two season’s ago thing than last season. Remember the brawl in NY? Karl said at the time that his team had had trouble protecting leads and that was why the starters were in to put the nail in the coffin, Which Thomas resented. You know the rest of the story.
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
True
But I recall a lot of games last year that we should have won, but lost a grip in the third. I think it was remnants of a lazy attitude from seasons past. I don’t think anyone will forget the rest of the story…Melo swings and runs for home base!
by Joelsopinion on Nov 18, 2009 4:08 PM MST up reply actions
I’m thinking that those were road games last year and both home and road two years ago. Am I right?
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson
Maybe, but...
Should it make a difference? The team was, whether at home or on the road, regularly melting down in the third quarter of games. I’m just happy that those concerns of watching my team melt down on national TV have dissipated.
by Joelsopinion on Nov 19, 2009 9:44 AM MST up reply actions
unfortunately it might
be his styling gel…. lol
he’ll be as strong as ever I’m sure!!!
by InboundingLobPass on Nov 19, 2009 2:09 AM MST up reply actions
Hip injury
He’s been out the last two games with a hip injury. No truth to the rumor that I caused the “hip” injury back wacking him with a stick.
Hip injury
It’s actually amazing how much my stress level goes down when I don’t have to see AC on the floor. I haven’t had to throw anything at the TV in two games!
Thanks boys... didn't notice.
I am glad your TV hasn’t had to be abused lately Philip. KarlSucks, I would venture to guess that you’d be on the short list of suspects if someone Tonya Harding’d him. LOL.
Great Win!
I too was worried about the “let-down” last night, especially after the 1st quarter. However, our Nuggets came back in the 2nd half (like they do) and ran over the Raptors.
One thing I really liked…
Nene! Best game of the year, by far. Played unbelievable D against Chris Bosh…and didn’t foul out!
One thing I didn’t like…
Chauncy Billups’ outside shot. Need C-bill, to get it back on track. Here is your last 4 games:
Chicago: 5-12
Milwaukee: 6-16
LA Lakers: 1-8
Toronto: 2-6
33%, C’mon Man!
by CSprings_Tommy on Nov 18, 2009 10:49 AM MST reply actions
Nene
20-10-5. Very nice all the way around.
"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.
Even better
That is a sick line indeed. Now, if he can just continue with a little consistency the Nugs will be sitting pretty.
"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.
It's nice, for sure,
but I would like to see him average something like that, at least the 20-10 part. Nene’s capable of such an achievement, and we need that from him in order to truly be in the league’s elite. As noted by Nate, he can trigger good things by his effort, or conversely act as a wet blanket with his inconsistency and frequent timid approach.

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