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The mockery that is the Lakers schedule...

Ap-kobe_phil_mediumWhile Nuggets Nation has obsessed over how the Nuggets will stack up against division rivals Portland and Utah, we've overlooked the tragic comedy (for the rest of the Western Conference) that is the Lakers 2009-10 schedule.

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Discussed ad naseum on TNT last night was the fact that the Lakers will play 17 of their first 21 games at home, and their four road games are at Oklahoma City, Houston, Denver and Golden State.  And those 17 home games?  12 are against teams anticipated to be .500 or worse.  In fact, the Lakers toughest home opponent will be the Mavericks or the Jazz.  I'm sure Kobe Bryant is quaking in his Nikes with fear right now.  TNT analyst Reggie Miller went as far as to say that anything short of a 20-1 start for the Lakers will be shocking.  I hate to admit it, but I agree with Reggie.

Pardon my language, but this is a fucking joke.

Before diving into my rant, let the record state that I understand some favoritism is warranted to the NBA's marquee franchises.  And perhaps they deserve it for the tickets they sell, the sponsorship they draw and the TV ratings they improve.  Frankly, I'm ok with some favoritism thrown their way.  But 17 of 21 games to be played at home out of the gate - against sub-par competition no less - is blatant incompetence at best and collusion at worst.  Is the NBA this desperate to get the Lakers into the Finals in a bad economy?  Are you telling me that in 2009 there's not a software scheduling program available that takes into account arena conflicts and national TV games while also balancing schedules among the 30 NBA teams to be relatively even?

Before you say (as Charles Barkley noted during last night's post-game show) "everybody in the NBA plays the same teams" and "it evens out over 82 games" (my Benedict Arnold Lakers fan of a brother's favorite retort on this now annual topic) let me stop you right there.  Yes, we all know that everyone in the NBA plays the same teams.  But no, it doesn't even out.  When you play certain opponents matters.  Even against crappy teams.  Try playing in Sacramento on a Saturday on the second of a back-to-back versus a Monday when you've had a full day's rest.  It's a completely different game.

Here's why scheduling really matters, though: confidence.  Confidence is the biggest X-factor in sports.  And while an easy early schedule boosts a teams confidence, a tough early schedule can decimate it for the entire season.  We only have to look to our own Denver Broncos as proof of this.  A team that was deemed by the "experts" (and yours truly) to win somewhere between four and five games miraculously won its first game at Cincinnati and then had the benefit of two easy games - home against Cleveland and at Oakland - to end up surprisingly being 3-0.  Suddenly, whether they were a legit 3-0 or not, the Broncos had the confidence and mentality of a 3-0 team and exhibited it against the Cowboys in Week 4.  And they won.  And then, entering Week 5 against the favored Patriots the Broncos played like a 4-0 team and won again.  By the time Week 6 at San Diego rolled around, the Broncos were exhibiting the confidence of an undefeated team and remain so.  It's all about confidence.

So while the 2009-10 Nuggets bear the weight of championship expectations with 13 of their first 23 on the road - including an opening season back-to-back against Utah tonight and then at Portland tomorrow - the Lakers get to work out the kinks with new acquisition Ron Artest from the cozy confines of the Staples Center 17 of 21 times.

And yes, there will be a stretch where the Lakers have to play an inordinate amount of road games to make up for their season-opening home stand.  But by then they'll be so far out in front in the Western Conference that they'll play loose and confidently and never skip a beat.  Meanwhile, should the Nuggets stumble just a bit as they hit the road continuously in those first two months, so much heat will be on the players and the coach that the rails could come off early.  I don't foresee this happening as I believe the Nuggets are mentally stronger than they've ever been, but their schedule is set up for this type of scenario.

Call me a whiner, a homer, an excuse-maker, a loser, etc.  All I'm asking for is a fair fight.

 

Photo courtesy of AP: Chris Carlson.

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Let us not forget the horrendous back to back’s we face as you pointed out previously. And did we not have a 10 game road trip last year around the all star game?

by RyanMordecai on Oct 28, 2009 10:09 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

It's going to be interesting to see what this snow does ...

The weather here in Denver is basically a white out right now … the weather “experts” are predicting maybe 18 inches by tonight … I wonder if the Nuggets will be able to fly out to Portland tonight or have to wait until tomorrow.

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by Nate Timmons on Oct 28, 2009 10:48 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

How often do games get cancelled?

My brother has tickets…but we already have like 6-8 inches here…

by roxintober on Oct 28, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I highly doubt the game gets canceled tonight, but there is a chance I guess.

I’ll be keeping an eye out, but I’d say there is a 2% chance it gets canceled.

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by Nate Timmons on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I saw that too Andrew

Girlfriend laughed at it as well. What a surprise.

Swats.

by BeefySwats on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Also

Any chance we could get some Nuggets season schedule analysis? I kinda miss that from the old PA&R/

Swats.

by BeefySwats on Oct 28, 2009 11:39 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe Andrew got into this when the schedule was released ... (looking for story ...)

Here is what was written when the schedule was released … click here.

We’ll probably do more as the season goes on I’d imagine …

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by Nate Timmons on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

This makes the NBA schedulers look like a bunch of crooked collaborators

What’s tht sound? It’s Joseph Stalin rolling over in his grave…

by Geerten on Oct 28, 2009 12:13 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

why is everyone hating on Denver?

It almost feels like the NBA doesnt want Denver going as deep as they did last year, no one is even picking them as a top 5 team this year. I know other teams made additions but I think the free agents we have now are better than the players we lost. And not to mention Ty Lawson is VERY underrated, he is a baller. Everyone says aslong as the Nuggets stay healthy, but that goes for every team. I just wish they would give us some credit for once.

by feelinmelo on Oct 28, 2009 12:31 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Well ... both writers here at Denver Stiffs see the Nuggets as a Top 5 team ...

Check our predictions out by clicking here.

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by Nate Timmons on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's tough to be a top 5 team if you don't win your division.

I can’t wait to see how the lighter quicker Greg Oden does against the denver front court.

by Tulo2low on Oct 29, 2009 5:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right man Greg Oden is a beast.

Season opener…Greg Oden got 12 boards and 5 blocks…in 26 minutes. To go along with 5 fouls only 2 points on 1-3 shooting and a very low 7 turnovers. 5 fouls? 7 Turnovers…I’ll take that.

Oh, and that was against Houston. Houston. Who’s center is…..who….? Yeah.

by GottaLoveMelo on Oct 29, 2009 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

FREE CHUCK HAYES!

He is listed as 6’6.

He reminds me of a black Hanzlik

"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway

by LACK on Oct 30, 2009 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I prefer an easy schedule in April over an easy schedule in November. It is much more comforting fighting for a playoff spot going up against teams like Sacramento and G-State at the end of the year than crossing you fingers on the road against another playoff team.

by snafu on Oct 28, 2009 12:31 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You're joking, right?

If you think this is bad, imagine how much whining would come from Denver if the Lakers closed out March and April with 17 home games against weak teams. I bet you would be very happy if the Lakers, at 51-10, had the chance to close out 20-1.
Favoritism or not, they still have to go out and play.
Oh, I seem to recall a 6-0 road trip last season in which they beat both Boston and Cleveland, without Andrew Bynum and with Kobe Bryant having the flu. And a little more than a month later, they had a 7-game road trip which was said to be the longest an NBA team ever had that late in the season.
When you play teams does matter. Frankly, I think the Lakers would be perfectly happy playing Sacramento, Oklahoma City, etc., in the spring.

by jazz 61 on Oct 28, 2009 12:41 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Favoritism
I understand some favoritism is warranted to the NBA’s marquee franchises. And perhaps they deserve it for the tickets they sell, the sponsorship they draw and the TV ratings they improve. Frankly, I’m ok with some favoritism thrown their way.

I would sleep a lot better at night if I could convince myself to feel this way — I feel very strongly the opposite. But regardless, I think when a single franchise has made it to the championship round nearly 50% of the time throughout the league’s existence, that’s definitely too much favoritism, from any point of view. The Lakers get to the NBA Finals more frequently, percentage-wise, than the Yankees get to the World Series. It discourages me from wanting to continue following basketball.

The NFL seems to be the league that really gets this right. in 43 Super Bowls, the team with the most appearances? The Dallas Cowboys, with 8. Less than 20%. The NFL really strives for parity in a way that the NBA clearly doesn’t, and I think the NFL is a much, much better league for it. Fans of just about any NFL team can logically feel like their team has a fair shot at getting to the Super Bowl eventually.

Too bad I don’t like watching football nearly as much as I like watching basketball.

by ParkHillNative on Oct 28, 2009 1:50 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

If David Stern didn't suck so much

I might actually like him…

"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway

by LACK on Oct 28, 2009 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Actually, I'd never like him

Unless he gives me $1 million AND/OR a guareenteed job as a member of the Nuggets Organization.

"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway

by LACK on Oct 28, 2009 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parity in the NFL- not this season

There have been a ton of blow-outs this year then past recent seasons. I do understand where you’re coming from though. Teams like the Lakers have had the most superstar players since the NBA existence, and favortism not only hold true on the court in regards to fouls, but also scheduling.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 30, 2009 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

anybody, any where any time

if denver is truely a championship team and i think they are then the schedule is not a primary concern. they need to worry about themselves. the season chicago won 72 games one of the teams they lost to was denver’s worst team in history. nugs have no choice to band close together and excel with teamwork. their schedule will only make them better come playoff time. the bench players will need to come through in a huge way.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Oct 28, 2009 3:31 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

It is what it is

I kinda have to think like Barkley only because of what the Jazz fan posted… and he’s right, just as Andrew is. We could look at it either way. No, I don’t like the Lakers being able to build up their bench early on by playing a bunch of pushovers, but I like the fact that if we’re in striking distance for the #1 seed or something come April, we’ll have the favorable scenario at that time (if they have a bunch of hard games late, I don’t know, I haven’t looked).

The ONLY thing that needs to be (hopefully) getting crammed into the minds of the Nuggets is “hey, it is what it is, so step up, or step off”. If they can step up, we’ll be the better team in the end for it.

by stiffy on Oct 28, 2009 3:45 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Meant to say...

Build up their bench AND rest their stars, and build a cushy record.

by stiffy on Oct 28, 2009 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

You all are foolish in this. I agree with stiffy on this. It is what it is, so get over yourself! Focus on your team and how you can win, not on what other teams do.

by FoCo on Oct 28, 2009 8:35 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I try to be nice when I post on other teams blogs, but this is weak, very weak.

You really think the league schedule makers are biased? That’s sad.

First of all the Lakers play at Staples Center which happens to be the home of the LA Clippers and the LA Kings. It also hosts the X-Games, the Grammy’s, the World Figure Skating Championships and a ton of other events/concerts, etc. (Yeah I know the X-Games are off season) Each season the Lakers have a “Grammy road trip” which is the equivalent of the Bulls Circus trip or the Spurs Rodeo trip. The Lakers Grammy trip is usually the longest road trip any team has each year. They also play on the West coast which means they travel more miles than almost any other team.

The schedule makers have to factor in all events at Staples Center, other teams schedules (East coast teams are usually on a long trip which makes this even tougher), and mandatory dates off like Christmas Eve, the All-Star game weekend, and the NCAA championship. Teams even have to provide 4 open Mondays and 4 open Thursdays for Network games.

Also they have to adhere to rules of the CBA as outlined here by TrueHoop….

“Teams cannot play back-to-back home games on consecutive nights, nor can they play three games on three consecutive nights. Also, under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, teams must not play a game on a day during which they’ve been on a flight that crossed two time zones. The Agreement also regulates when games can be played on holidays, and states that no games may be played within 48 hours of the NBA All-Star game.”

Of course there are advantages to playing a lot of easy/home games early (as outlined above) and there are advantages to playing a lot of easy/home games late as well (conveniently glossed over above). I am sure the Lakers wouldn’t mind resting some players late in the season in easier games to get them physically ready for the playoffs without giving up position/seeding. You can make a case for either argument. What you can’t make a decent case for is the league making a biased schedule simply because you can conceive of a reason why they would do so.

The fact of the matter is the league has their hands full scheduling teams games without the added element of a conspiracy (which would involve way too many people to keep a lid on). Considering the issues involved at Staples Center in general they probably have a very tough time every year with the Lakers. In fact their schedule is usually home heavy early each year, probably for the same reasons I outlined above.

Like I opened with above (way above actually, man I get going sometimes) if you honestly think the league would conspire with their scheduling to favor the Lakers given all of the difficulty they already have as outlined above, coupled with the fact that they run a billion dollar business that can not afford a scandal in the wake of the Tim Donaghy situation, and the inherent difficulty in pulling off such conspiracy then I feel sorry for you. That is really sad.

I am an Angel fan and most of us feel there is a Yankee/Red Sox conspiracy every year as well. However deep down we all know that is a load of crap. I just can’t believe you felt the need to try and fool yourself and everyone else here as well.

On another note, the Moon landing was a hoax and Elvis is definitely still alive. (Andy Kaufman too)

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Oct 28, 2009 10:17 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

What are you saying here?

Are you telling me that it couldn’t be one person making the schedule for the entire league? I know if all the teams gave me their arena schedules prior to me making the schedule, I could do it myself. Just make an excel spreadsheet and bounce between one team and another. I could easily favor one team and crap on another and I wouldn’t have to collude with one single other person.

I think you are high if you do not believe this is possible. Really, very, extremely easy to pull off. Don’t you think the NBA would rather see the Lakers than the Nugs in the Championship? The Lakers bring in tonnes more revenue for the league. That is what it comes down to, dollar bills.

Of other note, why doesn’t the NBA show the ping pong ball hoax on Television that determines who drafts where in the Lottery?

by Gasus on Oct 29, 2009 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fail.

I don’t know how many people make the schedule, but I doubt it is just one person. It can’t be remotely as easy as you claim. You have to coordinate the schedules of all 30 teams. That is thousands of variables. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was done with a computer program/algorithm. Regardless it would still be a massive conspiracy. They wouldn’t just take this one NBA employee at his word and allow the schedule without tons of scrutiny.

“I think you are high if you do not believe this is possible.”

I never said it was impossible, I said it was unlikely and stupid (paraphrasing).

“Don’t you think the NBA would rather see the Lakers than the Nugs in the Championship?”

Probably, but that doesn’t mean they would risk the integrity of a billion dollar business. That is just stupid. It’s the same reason I trust major online gaming sites. Sure they could cheat, but why would they? They make billions by being honest, why take the risk?

“Of other note, why doesn’t the NBA show the ping pong ball hoax on Television that determines who drafts where in the Lottery?”

Don’t know. Don’t care. The Lakers are never in the lottery. However I think it is certified by a major accounting firm, (Price Waterhouse Coopers I think). Again, big conspiracy, not worth the risk.

“Just make an excel spreadsheet and bounce between one team and another.”

LOL, sure. Let me know when you have it finished. 30 teams, thousands of variables, CBA rules, etc….. good luck.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Oct 29, 2009 7:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

multiple schedules

are made out in advance then a committee reviews them. let’s face it the nba owners are in it to make money. nothing wrong with that it is the american way.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Oct 30, 2009 3:41 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well then this makes my point.....

If a committee reviews them then the conspiracy would have to include the whole committee. I suppose it is possible, but not very likely.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Oct 30, 2009 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

A committee of 5 good old boys?

Maybe a committee of 10 minions chosen by 5 good old boys? LOL, that would stop it for sure!

by Gasus on Oct 31, 2009 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

It really is as easy as I said. You give it to me alone and with 4000 variables I would have it done in a week.

by Gasus on Oct 30, 2009 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well you are either a genius or a liar. Given the conversation I am leaning toward…………………

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Oct 30, 2009 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No algorithms unless you count all the algorithms that excel has built into it

Just easy spreadsheet work. A little time consuming but easy to create and backcheck. If they are rigging it for hundreds of millions more in profits, then why not. If I have learned anything in this country it is that greed has no boundries.

Just like you trust your church, you don’t know that the preacher doesn’t have a bank account in Geneva with 500k of the congregations money. You don’t know that your gaming sites aren’t taking an extra penny out of every pot. Of course as a Laker fan you think everything is hunky dory in the NBA because nothing is ever against your team!

by Gasus on Oct 30, 2009 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well first of all I am an atheist. Probably for a lot of reasons, but the preacher with the 500k is definitely one of them. Second of all, poker sites can take an extra penny if they want to they make up their own rake. However there is no reason to lie about it, everyone knows they make up the rake and no one would complain about an extra penny. Again no risk.

You haven’t shown me any reasonable proof of a conspiracy yet and certainly haven’t come close to a logical reason the League would risk everything for a small gain. Of course they might have something to gain, and of course they COULD possibly pull it off, but until the gain comes anywhere near the risk, they wouldn’t do it. Period.

’Of course as a Laker fan you think everything is hunky dory in the NBA because nothing is ever against your team!"

LOL, yeah the league gives us everything. It has nothing to do with a great owner, fans, coaches, players, tradition, etc. It’s just handed to us……LOL. You know it’s funny a few years ago the Blazers were called the JailBlazers. They got rid of all of their problem guys and they are on the way up. Maybe Denver should give it a try………….or just keep whining about league bias, whatever floats your boat. Nuggets problems have a lot more to do with personnel than bias. But it’s easier to blame someone else.

Billy Mac: "Lamar, can you see yourself actually getting in the (boxing) ring"?
Lamar Odom: "No. My face is too pretty."

by pslakerfan on Oct 30, 2009 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Nugs just beat the Blazers

In Portland on a second of a traveling back to back without their second most proficient scorer. Not too worried about the Blazers here.

I do agree that the Lakers have a great organization with great players. Many great fans who have true reasons to follow the team. Also, many fans who follow the team from China and around the world because they win. Many bandwagon fans who follow them because they win.

You have been given all the proof you need to start to think that maybe their is something fishy going on with the scheduling. Look at the schedule! Now as far as me giving you more evidence, I would have to quit my career and become a private investigator or join the FBI to give you hard evidence. You are arguing with me by saying that it is not possible and that the reasoning is stupid. Well, I think you are nieve if you don’t think it is possible.

Now if everybody just sat around like you and said, “aw, nothing is wrong why would they corrupt a big business like that?” then who would uncover scandals seen all over the world? How about the guy that reported Madoff to the SEC multiple times? I imagine it was a Laker fan at the SEC that got the reports and thought that something like that could never happen to a big business. How could the game be corrupt if my team wins all the time? Nieve buddy, nieve.

Why would the executives at Enron and their big accounting firm cook the books? I mean, they make so much money allready right? Why would the ruin a huge business like that? Why would the Black Sox throw the world series? Greed buddy, greed. Why would AIG make monsterous bets that had the potential to ruin a huge business? Come on man, think a little bit.

by Gasus on Oct 31, 2009 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lakers Actually Have a Hard Schedule

Let me start this by stating up front that I’m a Spurs fan, so I hate the Lakers as much as anyone. But I don’t think the NBA has really done the Lakers any favors with their schedule. First of all, as other people have stated, the NBA is probably one of the most difficult sports leagues to schedule for because NBA arenas are used for way more functions than basketball, the Spurs have their Rodeo trip, the Lakers have the Grammy trip, and then of course there are all the single day events that occur at all the NBA arenas. So although I think the NBA does try and help out its premier franchises at times, particularly with some officiating, I think they’ve got enough to worry about with just making a schedule that logistically works without trying to help one team over another. Second of all, I think the Lakers actually have one of the tougher schedules this year. I read on one of the Lakers blogs where they have the most back to back games this year, which is certainly a disadvantage. Furthermore, I think having so many home games against easy teams at the beginning of the schedule is bad for a team like the Lakers. An easy beginning is helpful for a young team that needs to gain confidence, or a team trying to figure out how to incorporate a bunch of new starters. The Lakers are the defending champs, they change out one starter with a veteran who knows exactly the role he’s being brought in for. They hardly need a quick start to gain confidence or chemistry. It would be far better for them to have an easy schedule down the stretch so they could rest players to stay healthy and fresh for the playoffs, or make it easier to stay afloat while they wait for an injured player like Bynum to make it back to the line up. Think of it this way, a soft stretch of the schedule is like the NBA’s equivalent of the NFL bye week. Would you rather have the bye week early in the season, when your team is fresh and healthy anyway, or later in the season when you’re getting a little worn down and dinged up?

GO SPURS GO!
5 IN '10!

by WillyD on Oct 29, 2009 8:34 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree with you Spurs fan ...

As a frequenter of SilverScreen and Roll, I’m really surprised that a moderator of Denver Stiffs would post such a low-quality article.

Not only have you failed to address the fact about the Lakers having the most back-to-back games, but it is will known that this is a Laker team that is culprit to OVERCONFIDENCE. If anything, this schedule is unfavorable to the Lakers. Momentum going into the playoffs at the end of the season is as important as, if not more important than, confidence at the beginning of the season.

That said, I respect the Nuggest, I think Denver put up the best fight of any playoff opponent in the Lakers’ run last year, including Orlando and Houston. You guys also seem to have quite a pick in Ty Lawson.

by nilwnah on Oct 29, 2009 3:11 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

The Lakers have the most back to back games?

You should research the Denver Nuggets then buddy. Try 22 back to back games for the Nugs. How many do the Lakers have? 16 maybe?

by Gasus on Oct 29, 2009 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

sad but true

low-quality article?! it is THE TRUTH

by xaled on Oct 31, 2009 10:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that this article reeks of tears but...

It is not true that the Lakers have the most back to backs. I’m not sure which team does, but the Lakers have 20 (22 counting preseason) b2b games while the Nuggets have 22 (23 counting pre-season).

by decrepito on Oct 30, 2009 12:35 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Corruption in NBA

Lakers can get everything they want

1- they get easiest and most comfortable schedule with good start and ends (Phil Jackson always whine saying that good start is so important for teams) examples:
2007-2008 and 2009-2010 seasons

2- they can get Gasol for K.Brown (non-sense trade)

3- they can get Artes for Ariza (another non-sense bullshit trade)

4- they can gain referees’ empathy in most important games like they did last when they undeserved but won against Celtics and Cavaliers and in 1st and 6th game against Nugget and in all games of NBA’s finals

and FOR EVERYBODY if you do not want to be part of this corruption and fixing DO NOT BUT LEAUGEPASS or you make those thieves richer

by xaled on Oct 31, 2009 9:29 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Artest signed with L.A. as a free agent ...

Ariza signed with Houston as a free agent. It was like they were traded for one another, but they were not.

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Rumors of the re-birth of the Eastern Conference have been greatly exaggerated.  Yes, the Cavaliers are awesome but the sixth playoff seed might be sub-.500.  And do you think any of the West's top six teams fear the Celtics, Magic or Hawks?  No chance. 

STIFF #4: ANKLE INJURIES
First Carmelo Anthony.  Then Chauncey Billups. And now possibly Arron Afflalo?  Tape those ankles up, dammit!  

STIFF #5: NEW JERSEY NETS
4-46 and losers to the lowly Pistons on Saturday night.  But Lawrence Frank was the problem, right?

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