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The Financial Ramifications of Trading Marcus Camby

The last angle of the Marcus Camby trade we have yet to pursue is what kind of difference does the removal of his salary make for the Nuggets payroll?

 

Even without the $10 million that was slated to go to Camby this year the Nuggets are still one of the highest paid teams in the NBA.  As of now according to Hoops Hype salary information the Nuggets have over $68 million in salary committed for the 2008-2009 season which still puts them in the top ten for team salary.

 

That number will increase as they will likely sign J.R. Smith to an extension and they still have to add at least four more players to reach the minimum roster requirement of 13.

 

When you take those things into account they will be looking at a team salary of around $73-$75 million depending on what the starting salary on J.R.’s new contract will be.  Even after letting go of Eduardo Najera and the Camby trade the Nuggets are still set to be a tax paying team.

 

(If I could quickly explore a tangent the luxury tax is based on your team salary at the end of the season.  That means the Nuggets still have up until the trade deadline in February to shed more salary.  They will not be able to pull off a Camby like salary dump due to the fact that Memphis is the only team currently under the cap and they are clearly dedicated to being as cheap as possible for the near future so that option is not available.  They still can slash salary via trade though.  The NBA trade rules stipulate that the salaries exchanged in any trade between two capped out teams must be within 75% plus $100,000 of each other.  For example, the Nuggets could trade Allen Iverson’s expiring $20 million plus contract and bring back roughly only $15 million.  That is some significant savings.  To further tangentalize (I made up a word today, what did you do?) at this point my ideal trade for AI would be to package him with Steven Hunter to Cleveland in exchange for Wally Szczerbiak’s big expiring deal, Anderson Varejao and a small cap filler contract.  That would save the Nuggets over $4 million this year, likely get them below the luxury tax level and bring in another defensive oriented big man who loves to force game winning losing shots in NBA Finals elimination games.)

 

As we pointed out above no matter what the Nuggets do, they will still have a very high payroll for this season.  However, depending on what happens with Iverson, they will have the flexibility they spoke of following the Camby trade.

 

If Iverson is not traded this year and his contract expires the Nuggets will be able to shed another $20 some million off of their payroll for the offseason of 2009.  The Nuggets have three big contracts on the books for the 2009-2010 season.  Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin and Nene will chew up over $40 million in guaranteed payroll.  You can add to that Steven Hunter’s nearly $4 million salary and whatever the second year of J.R. Smith’s contract is worth.  Probably in the $6 to $8 million range and they have suddenly approached or surpassed $50 million.  Kleiza will be an unrestricted free agent next year and he will be looking for an extension just like J.R. is this season.  However, his qualifying offer is set to be $2.7 million so he will be on the books for at least that much.  Hoops Hype shows that Chucky Atkins contract expires after next season, but I have read in too many places that it is a three year deal to know that for sure.  That is (perhaps) another $3 million on the books.  Even without Atkins at this point they have six players under contract for $53 to $55 million next season.  There are also cap holds that every team must carry until they sign a player to fill their minimum roster slots.  I do not know for sure what those minimum cap holds are, nor do I feel like looking them up right now, but it is safe to assume they are at least $500,000.  Add $3.5 million in cap holds to that $53 to $55 million and the Nuggets are right up against the cap.  Even if they manage to ship off Steven Hunter for an expiring contract in the next 11 months they will still only have $5 or $6 million in cap space.

 

Financially that is the best case scenario and it requires to allow AI to walk for nothing.  If they trade AI or do what at this point is unthinkable and extend him that is even more money on the books for next season.  If they trade him and being back $15 million in contract obligations that extend to 2009-2010 they will be sitting right around $70 million again.  If they extend him for say $10 million a season they will be in the mid $60’s.  Even in my “ideal AI trade scenario” from above the Nuggets will be bringing in Varejao who will be looking at a minimum salary of over $6 million for 2009-2010 and that will make sure the Nuggets are into the low $60’s. 

 

What is the point of all of this?

 

First of all, look for the Nuggets to make more trades in an attempt to cut more salary so they are not a tax paying team this season.

 

Secondly, and most importantly, I wanted to look at their salary structure for 2009-2010 in an attempt to determine what the chances are that they will use all or part of their $10 million trade exception.

 

It has been my argument that the Nuggets will indeed use that trade exception, even though many teams allow their exceptions to expire (as Golden State did last month).  I know that Stan Kronke wants to put a winner out on the court and I think they see the chance to really alter the Nuggets roster, while maintaining the talented young core, and come out with a potentially contending team for 2009-2010.  They cannot do that without using the trade exception and by looking at their salary structure unless they do something stupid, which is always a solid possibility, they should be in a position, depending on what they do with AI, to use it next offseason. 

 

Keep in mind, they do not have to use the entire exception to acquire a good player.  They could bring in a Tyrus Thomas, Anderson Varejao, Shane Battier, Udonis Haslem, Mo Williams or Leandro Barbosa by using only a portion of the trade exception. The Nuggets could also be players in sign and trade deals for any of the 2009 free agent class.

 

Unless the Nuggets trade AI and bring back a bunch of long term contracts (which would be completely against the direction they have set with the Camby deal) I believe the Nuggets will be far below the luxury tax line in the summer of 2009.  If there is a player they believe will help their team Kronke will certainly give the go ahead to use however much of that exception they need to use whether it be for a player making $4 million or $10 million.

 

Over the next two years the Nuggets have a great chance at getting healthy financially while remaining a talented competitive team.  There may be plenty of pitfalls ahead of them to avoid, and there is certainly no guarantee that the Nuggets management will successfully maneuver through them, but like Lloyd Christmas, at least we have a chance.

Of course if Mark Warkentien (how come I can spell Nikoloz Tskitishvili in my sleep, but I always have to look up Warkentien to make sure I spelled it right?  Dang you Skita!) follows the tradition laid out before him by general managers such as Issel and Vandeweghe they will sign J.R. Smith to a six year, $65 million deal and all of this discussion will have been for naught.

Like I said, plent of potential pitfalls ahead.

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cavs trade

You’re thinking much to small with the Cavs trade. Except for LeBron, their draft pick and Gibson (dumb signing of the year), their whole team expires by next year. The Nuggets can do much better than saving $4 million here. Think:

Nuggets Get:
Wally Szczerbiak
Damon Jones
Ben Wallace
Anderson Varajao
filler contract

Cavs Get:

Allen Iverson
Kenyon Martin
Steven Hunter

They effectively replace Camby with Wallace (a downgrade, I know) and Martin with Varajao. Martin’s contract actually goes through 2011 because of its player option, so the nuggets would save some $8 mil this year because of the luxury tax, and save about $30 million in 2010 and 2011.

by sliccat on Jul 19, 2008 9:10 AM MDT reply actions  

cavs trade

i said their team expires next year, I mean the season after this coming one.

by sliccat on Jul 19, 2008 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jeremy

I follow the CBA like Paris Hilton fans watch her videotape. That being said this is the best salary page I’ve found anywhere (when it gets updated). It’s done by a devoted English Bulls fan named mark. You can thank Matt Everhart for tipping me off. (He’s the dude who runs Blog a Bull for those who don’t know.) The site is called ShamSports. Since I’m a Kings fan I thought I would look at the salary page to see what players were included. From what I can see it’s very up to date and all that. Here is the page.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 AM MDT reply actions  

Some notes on what you were saying

The actual trade exception is 125% of the outgoing/ingoing salary + 100K. So in a sense you are right that the Nuggets could take only 75% of Iverson’s salary. But that’s the rule to the other extreme. I do suggest that the Heat could trade for Iverson straight up as you say. That would also give the Nuggets breathing room to sign JR Smith without paying the tax. Miami also has enough room under the Luxury Tax limit to pursue this as well.

Another thing is the whole trade exception the Nuggets got from LA. It’s only good a year after it’s received. So unless the Nuggets use it the first day after the moratorium ends, it can’t be that useful can it? (It can be useful, I suspect, though during draft time however. That is a bit different in a sense I imagine.) For those who don’t understand what a trade exception is, it’s an exception that allows the team to exceed the salary cap to trade for a player while only using the exception to do so. For those who understand the cap situation of the Nuggets much better I’ll say this to you. Having that exception come draft time is nice because Luxury tax for each team, or what they’re slated to pay, will be calculated before Draft Time comes around. So it’s potentially useful for the Nuggets as lxuury tax only starts from the time the season ends to the time the season ends. (It doesn’t begin and end at July like the rest of the season does. That’s a loophole Nuggets fans might want to remember.) Via Larry Coon:

When determining the amount of tax a team owes, the league uses its team salary (see question number 14) on the date of their last regular season game (i.e., if a player is traded before the end of the season, then none of his salary is taxed)
So basically what the Nuggets are looking at is to use the trade exception to perhaps gain a longer contracted player that a team would be looking to dump with conjunction of a draft pick. So in that sense I agree with Jeremy that having this trade exception is useful as long as the Nuggets don’t pay luxury tax. Since Stan Kroenke is dead-set against paying it, this season will be kind of what it is.

Anyway I enjoyed the post.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jul 22, 2008 11:07 AM MDT reply actions  

Fantasy vs. Reality

The financial implications are that the owner of the Nuggets is cutting and running from his big investment in the team before it produced any returns, thus turning his luxury tax payments into a complete waste of money.

Other implications of this mess of a franchise is that fans have to assume that the Nuggets will hit it out of the park with their roster moves in the 12-13 months after the Camby giveaway in order to continue to be fans and to not get upset about the Camby giveaway. The Camby haters and Kroenke excusers are thinking, and practically assuming, that the Nuggets will automatically replace Camby, Iverson, and whoever else with players who are just as good or better. But you don’t simply replace players such as Camby and Iverson with hopes and assumptions and flexibility.

Those who are glad that Camby is gone miss the point of why the owner of the Nuggets paid the luxury tax in the first place: to get a team that you can not get in the normal everyday wheeling and dealing, at or very close to the salary cap.

SUMMARY
Fantasyland: The Nuggets will use their “flexibility” to end up with a team in 2009-10 or the year later at the latest just as good or better than they had before giving away Camby.
Reality: The Nuggets are not going to have a team as good as they had in 2007-08 for many, many years, probably 20 or more years in fact.

by Nuggets 1 on Jul 23, 2008 10:30 PM MDT reply actions  

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