2008-09 Game 23: Denver Nuggets vs Golden State Warriors Game Thread
by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 12:54 PM MST
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Golden State Warriors at Denver Nuggets, Dec 13, 2008 7:00 PM MST
I am not sure if you guys are old enough to remember the ad campaign with the tag line, “This is not your father’s Oldsmobile.” Well, these are not your older brothers Golden State Warriors. These are more like your Uncle’s Golden State Warriors. The team that defeated the Dallas Mavericks in the first round two years ago is long gone. Golden State is more like the team that missed the playoffs for 12 straight seasons.
The Warriors have lost ten of their last 12 games. To be fair eight of those 12 were on the road, but so is tonight’s game against the Denver Nuggets. The Warrior’s problem is an absence of any kind of effort on defense. The Warriors are giving up 116.5 points per game during that 12 game stretch. Part of that is due to the fast pace the Warriors play at, but unlike the Nuggets last year, pace is not the reason they give up so many points. The Warriors are third to last in the league in defensive efficiency giving up 112.4 points per 100 possessions. I am willing to bet that number is closer to 120 over the 12 game streak we have been talking about.
More bad news for the Warriors is the Nuggets have been surging on offense. Over the Nuggets last nine games Denver is sporting an offensive efficiency of 116.8. I think it is safe to expect a very high scoring game by the Nuggets tonight. Now Golden State can score too, but when they are firing on all cylinders on offense, their defense still has been making sure they come up a point or six short.
From an injury standpoint, Kenyon Martin is expected to play tonight, but the official word is that he is a game time decision. Not to disrespect the Warriors, but I would prefer Kenyon sit out one more game in hopes that he will be as healthy as possible for the very difficult stretch of six games in nine days that begins on Monday. The Nuggets need to make sure they are not looking ahead to next week and take of business tonight.
Previous Matchup: Game 4
Update: Corey Maggette has a torn hammy.
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how about limited minutes for Kenyon?
Just to get back into the swing of things.
So far this year, the Nuggets have done a sensational job of not overlooking teams. Hopefully we have REVENGE on the brain tonight, to make up for the one loss we shouldn’t have suffered.
I’m looking for big games from Nene & Smith. My “picks to click” as it were.
by jakester on Dec 13, 2008 1:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Well both have done well so far
good picks, unlike mine of AC haha
by Missing Lynx on Dec 13, 2008 8:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Nene seemed to struggle against Andris Biedrins last time. However, if Golden State’s perimeter allows easy entry passes to the post, you’ve got to think he’ll have a big game.
pick of the game: Anthony Carter for 15 points and seven assists off the bench as Chauncey rests much of the second half in a blow out W.
by Missing Lynx on Dec 13, 2008 4:38 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Andris Biedrins
is good. Jamaal Crawford is capable to exploding on any given night. This is an NBA game and I hope our guys treat it like one, particularly since GSW is the only team that has beaten us in a matchup that we were favoraites to win thus far.
by joshhopp on Dec 13, 2008 5:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I totally forgot about Jamal Crawford
I’m still kind of upset he left New York….anyway are you putting up the link tonight?
His Wolves, My Nuggs
by Kay on Dec 13, 2008 6:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nuggets must defend the three point line
The Warriors are starting Rob Kurz who can really stroke it. Add in Crawford and Stephen Jackson and the Warriors can really fill it up.
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 7:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Biedrins is definitely very good
But he struggles with fouls. He has one already, which hopefully will quickly become two.
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 7:13 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Nuggets have yet to take a bad shot and are active on defense
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 7:15 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Great start
Also, I love that I actually get to watch a game on tv. And so far the Warriors announcers haven’t been horribly annoying.
by holly96 on Dec 13, 2008 7:20 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Hi
If anyone wants a great link, try http://www.ppnba.com/en/713.html
Go the Nuggets
by joshhopp on Dec 13, 2008 7:20 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
My bad. Game's not being shown there
by joshhopp on Dec 13, 2008 7:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Way to go joshhopp
Get your act together why don’t you!
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 7:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It was interesting though
some “best game ever played” thing via ESPN.
I thought it was an ad but it was a feature.
ATL up 2 on CLE with 2 mins left! Go the Hawks.
by joshhopp on Dec 13, 2008 7:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nuggets looking well before the real test
by markph on Dec 13, 2008 7:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Atlanta just beat Lebron and crew
Joe Johnson is for real
by joshhopp on Dec 13, 2008 7:41 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I miss Camby throwing those lobs
Carter does a good job however..
by Lethalturnip on Dec 13, 2008 7:54 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Camby was the best at setting up the Ally Oop, hands down.
by markph on Dec 13, 2008 7:56 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
What makes it more impressive
is how it looks like he throws them effortlessly
by Lethalturnip on Dec 13, 2008 7:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Whats with the missed free throws?
They keep rimming off!
by Lethalturnip on Dec 13, 2008 7:59 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
He should have sit tonight
Better to have his wrist healthy for the mavs
by Lethalturnip on Dec 13, 2008 8:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I missed Stephan Jackson's technical
what did he do?
by joshhopp on Dec 13, 2008 8:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crap....
I thought we’d lost KMART for a loooong time there.
GO BRONCOS!!!
by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 13, 2008 8:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
His midrange J is much better
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 8:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
His three-point shot needs work though
that was ugly..
by Lethalturnip on Dec 13, 2008 8:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a stupid question...
Why do players raise their hand after commiting a foul?
GO BRONCOS!!!
by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 13, 2008 8:11 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Back in the day
Players had to raise their hand, now it has turned into exactly what joshhopp said.
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 8:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
cool…thanks everyone.
GO BRONCOS!!!
by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 13, 2008 8:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
man, this would be a BLOWOUT!
if we hit our freethrows. 12-20 is SAD.
Still, a nice little lead going…
by jakester on Dec 13, 2008 8:19 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Just looking at the boxscore
Kleiza is the only one with a negative efficiency on the Nuggs
by Lethalturnip on Dec 13, 2008 8:20 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I remain unconvinced that the +/- is an effective measure
but I’m not watching the game, and so can’t really comment on whether Kleiza is particularly sucking tonight
by jakester on Dec 13, 2008 8:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well its not perfect
but I am convinced the +/- is worth something, since Kleiza’s is consistently bad, like him.
by Missing Lynx on Dec 13, 2008 8:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He has missed a couple open ones
Not going to go on about it though. His contract and the trade rumours must be getting to him
by Lethalturnip on Dec 13, 2008 8:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Pickaxe
Is Julie Browman getting eased out of the commentary ?
by markph on Dec 13, 2008 8:20 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
its because
her bad hair and eye makeup was scaring viewers.
by Missing Lynx on Dec 13, 2008 8:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait
who the hell is Rob Kurz?
I feel like the Nuggets allow more players to score new career highs than any other team in the league. Maybe its scouting, maybe its coaching, maybe its defense… But it seems like it happens too often.
by Missing Lynx on Dec 13, 2008 8:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Maya Starks is hot
Julie B , pack tour bags
by markph on Dec 13, 2008 8:31 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Haha Karl...
“Just do what you guys are doing right now”
by Lethalturnip on Dec 13, 2008 8:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Belated Halftime Stats
Sorry, I had to finish a game of Sorry with my family.
Pace – 116.4!
Offensive Efficiency – 111.7
Defensive Efficiency – 87.6
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 8:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Why does Jones keep throwing himself at the rim
like he’s Allen Iverson, or something?
by Lethalturnip on Dec 13, 2008 8:37 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I am glad you added the tacos
Taco Bell needs to throw in a fourth taco if they get to 123.
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 8:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nene does not get the calls like he should
It appears that he rubs the refs the wrong way or something
by markph on Dec 13, 2008 8:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I see a high, high, high score
88 points with 16 minutes to go
by markph on Dec 13, 2008 8:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Melo
I think the Warriors announcers are Melo fanboys. It’s kind of cute.
by holly96 on Dec 13, 2008 8:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
That Melo dude is pretty good.
GO BRONCOS!!!
by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 13, 2008 8:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
He is in the Zone. Hopefully he will carry it through with the tough games to come
by markph on Dec 13, 2008 8:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
They’ll definitely need to bring their A game on the upcoming stretch.
GO BRONCOS!!!
by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 13, 2008 8:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Stephen Jackson
is having a brutal night. 1-12.
by joshhopp on Dec 13, 2008 8:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Nuggets, please don't foul Biedrins on his shots
My eyes cant take much more of his free throws
by Lethalturnip on Dec 13, 2008 8:55 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Ahhhhhh...
I wanted to have 100pts by the end of the 3rd.
GO BRONCOS!!!
by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 13, 2008 8:59 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
It will be interesting to see how much Anthony Randolph will play in the 4th
There is no reason to keep Stephen Jackson out there and the kid deserves more minutes.
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 9:00 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I thought Anthony Randolph would be a surprise ROY candidate
I was wrong.
by joshhopp on Dec 13, 2008 9:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
3rd quarter stats update
Pace – dropped to 111.3
Offensive efficiency – up to 118.6
Defensive efficiency up a tad to 88.7
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 9:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
there was a marriage proposal at the arena in between the 3rd and 4th.
Note to all guys out there: Most women will not want to be proposed to in public.
by holly96 on Dec 13, 2008 9:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Percentage of sports arena porposals that end in divorce
100%
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 9:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Orlando just beat Portland at Portland
And tonight they are in Utah and have outscored the Jazz 43-22 in the second half and have an 11 point lead with under 6:00 left.
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 9:09 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Portland are in struggle city!
I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t enjoying it.
Zach Randolph had a monster game against them last night.
by joshhopp on Dec 13, 2008 9:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a great game
I love league pass.
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 9:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Anthony Carter has made some unfortunate passes tonight
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 9:10 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Hey jeremy (or anyone else)...
Is ’Pace" a calcutation of how many offensive possesions a team would have during a game while playing at the current tempo?
GO BRONCOS!!!
by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 13, 2008 9:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Pace
It is a statistical measure of possessions based on shots, free throws, rebounds (offensive and defensive) and turnovers per 48 minutes. It is easier than counting possessions by hand from the play by play.
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 9:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm?
Sounds complicated.
GO BRONCOS!!!
by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 13, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Where has marcus williams been all season?
he was supposed to be the warriors main pg
by joshhopp on Dec 13, 2008 9:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Magic up 12 with 31 seconds left
The kicker…no Dwight Howard!
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by Jeremy on Dec 13, 2008 9:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
nice disposal of an outmatched team
have a good night everyone!
by joshhopp on Dec 13, 2008 9:26 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
yep...good win.
Here comes the hard part.
GO BRONCOS!!!
by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 13, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
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