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Arron Afflalo is who is he is...J.R. Smith?...The world may never know.

Arron Afflalo or J.R. Smith...Simply put, I'm afraid we made the wrong choice. Try and prove me wrong, I dare you fellow stiffs! Granted I have a penchant for all things J.R. and while he was a pain in our neck I will always feel like J.R. was the kid trying to show he belonged when George would never give him a chance.

There is no question that AAA is a integral piece to the Nuggets future. He is a tenacious defender, he has a proclivity for on-ball defense, and he relishes the challenge of taking on the opposing teams top scorer. Much like Dahntay Jones did in our much-heralded season, he takes on the role of the hard nosed guard willing to chase, scrape, and contest his way to victory. However there is a black hole in his game, a gaping void of consistent scoring that he has NEVER proven he can muster when the going gets tough (save for one Mavericks game when C.A. fouled out a play earlier).

The point I wish to make is that AAA's game is strictly complimentary. Considering the money we paid him and the minutes we plan to give him when he is healthy/productive (30-35 a game) I feel we made a poor decision. Strictly speaking we need a scorer on the court. Or at the very least an efficient scorer on the wing who doesn't shoot much. Bottom line...(and I'm tired of excuses, my own included) Arron Afflalo has not and I believe CANNOT live up to his perceived expectations.

Listen I've sat here in the down-trodden city of Portland and watched Wesley Matthews be flaunted as the answer to B. Roy or the future 2 of the Blazers and frankly I can't help but seeing the similarities between AAA and Wes. Both are expected to shoot efficiently, defend well, and score, despite the fact that each of their offensive skill sets is boiled down to corner threes and uncontested jump shots. Frankly, they have both been found lacking.

This brings up good old J.R. (Our most hated-favorite Nugget possibly ever). Let's compare career stats shall we considering MPG has been roughly the same throughout both of their stints in the NBA. AAA, in 22.9 MPG averages 7.6 points @ 46%, 41% from deep, 2.5 rebs, 1.5 ass. Now J.R, in 23.9 MPG averages 12.5 points @ 43%, 39% from deep, 2.8 rebs, 2 ass. J.R. My point...It is my opinion that we need a scorer who can create his own shot when we need it. We do not need an 8 millions plus player camping in the corner and looking like Julius Hodge every time he tries to drive to the hole. I recognize that Gallo could very well become this person but for now I pine for the days when J.R. could come in and take over games off the bench.

Hindsight being 20-20 let's imagine if he would have been allowed to start in his tenure. How much more confidence would he have had? How much less would he have felt he had to prove coming off the bench each game? Could he have been better? (Not such a knucklehead at times). It is fun to muse about the prospect of J.R. integrated into the great team we have here. Much like Melo I think he gets a bad rap as a ball hog-stopper and a me first guy but I always saw the potential in him. Not to mention it was hard not to see George's reins affixed firmly about his neck every time he came out onto the floor.

I didn't write this to rile anyone up. I wrote it for two reasons. One, I feel we need a scorer who can create his own shot (if he can close, it's a bonus). Two, AAA is simply not close to living up to our expectations and is looking like more of a compliment to our roster than a starter.

For all of those fanposts and opinions which espouse the virtues of team play. I'm sorry but any cursory glance at past NBA seasons will tell you you need a cut-throat scorer to take you through the finals. Yes, despite what Karl thinks about this young, talented team we need a star. Let's hope that Gallo can step it up. Who knows maybe Masai has something in his back pocket before the trade deadline. Let's not let this talent go to waste Nuggets nation! Complete the puzzle! Bring home the Larry O' Brien before we all wither and die damnit!!! Go Nuggets!


P.S. I just want to say that AAA is one of my favorite Nuggets. I've simply been at a loss though when watching him on the court recently. I don't mean want to start a get rid of AAA campaign.

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On a scale of 1 to 10 how optimistic are you about AAA's future as a Nuggets?
1 Bleh...
1 votes
2 I don't know why we signed him long term.
2 votes
3 He's alright...I guess.
4 votes
4 He needs a wake up call...NOW!
31 votes
5 He's simply average, always will be
27 votes
6 He's coming around, just you wait!
18 votes
7. I've seen what he can do and he WILL do it again.
32 votes
8. AAA is an underrated player, he's great for his age!
8 votes
9. Afflalo is a savage, he'll be our cut-throat...just you wait!
3 votes
10. This post is garbage, AAA is our future dummy!!!
6 votes

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There was no "choice"

George Karl never liked J.R Smith and he was never coming back once his contract was up. They do not like eachother.

This AAA is not the same AAA, and not might be due to the difference of styles from last years team to this years team. AAA was more of a wing to hit the open corner 3 when Melo was doubled. Now he is struggling to find his nitch in this offense. I’ll still give him time, but Rudy F is perfectly capable of being a starting 2 for us. I’m not going to give up on him yet.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 30, 2012 1:34 AM MST reply actions  

and that*

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by CloudBurst on Jan 30, 2012 1:39 AM MST up reply actions  

i agree

sorta pointless wondering about JR, because GK won’t play him the way that’s being proposed. Both of them however, seem resigned to the fact that he’s not coming back to the Nuggets, so I just don’t see it happening. I also had hopes that JR would mature up a bit in China, and maybe he has some, but he still seems like quite the knucklehead.

by nugz4rollz on Jan 30, 2012 9:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree about J.R. and what you say...

I wanted to point out the contrast between the AAA and JR. I love Rudy as I watched him here and Portland but no offense if you thought JR was streaky…be prepared for a torrid ride with the Spaniard. I too wish great things for either one of our 3 SOLID 2 guards. Thanks for commenting cloud.

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by B(lue)Powder on Jan 30, 2012 1:41 AM MST reply actions  

*in Portland*

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by B(lue)Powder on Jan 30, 2012 1:44 AM MST reply actions  

JR is crazy in the mind body and soul kinda way. He can do things nobody else can.

He needs to be on the Wizards or Bobcats to help out some of the young guns there. He and John Wall/ Kemba Walker together would be electric.

by InboundingLobPass on Jan 30, 2012 2:48 AM MST reply actions  

AAA - inflated expectations by everyone

It’s very weird. Early to mid-season last year, all you heard about was how AAA used to be known as a defender, but that he was quickly showing that he could be an offensive threat as well … he was filling out his game. As spectators, we saw his game improve over the previous year, so it all seemed to make sense. Towards the end of the season, after the whole trade fiasco and with the dynamic of a brand new team, AAA seemed to be one of the few stable presences both on and off the court. Somewhere towards the end of the season, and especially into the playoffs, all of a sudden fans, commentators, and AAA himself began to see him as the critical player missing from the team (due to his injured hammy). Then comes the lock out, and I truly believe that AAA began to seem himself as “the man” and that the Nuggets could’ve gone much deeper in the playoffs if he had only been healthy (i think they would have btw).

I’m lost as to how AAA evolved from much improved player to “the man” in between seasons, and while many stiffs readers may disagree that he ever claimed to be such, it really seems to me that he’s convinced himself that he’s at that level, and many other readers believe he should be too (especially now that he’s getting the $$$).

i love AAA and his work ethic, but i don’t see him turning into a spectacular SG this season, although I would be happy if he just returned to last year’s form.

by nugz4rollz on Jan 30, 2012 9:26 AM MST reply actions  

move AAA and Chandler for Ray Allen or Paul Pierce!

by soloking on Jan 30, 2012 10:19 AM MST reply actions  

PP can play 2 guard! Our line up would be sick!

by soloking on Jan 30, 2012 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Ahahahahaha

AHAHAHHAHA You really want to trade for Ray Allen and Paul Pierce? Maybe Allen and Karl cna get into a few slug fests while Pierce can be the new fan favorite bringing his cane up the court on every possession.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 30, 2012 3:07 PM MST up reply actions  

can*

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by CloudBurst on Jan 30, 2012 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

wow you should watch some basketball sometime. Pierce has been playing great since getting back from his injury and Allen scored 20 last night. Giving up AAA and Chandler for a proven all star would be a great move.

by soloking on Jan 30, 2012 3:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Allen and George Karl hate eachother

So Allen is NEVER, EVER EVER going to be on the same team as George Karl.

Pierce is an old man. No way does he fit on this young core of basketball players, nor has Pierce ever said he would even play here, I wouldn’t want him anyways, he is on the downside of his career.

Come back when you did your research.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 30, 2012 3:38 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Cannot agree more

Not only are Allen and Pierce inappropriate for this team, they aren’t what is needed if any roster moves are made. Nuggets need an offensive banger who can get his own shot when the going gets tough, along with understanding a pass-first scheme, a la Millsap.

No. More. Stickyball.

by LongWindedHank on Jan 30, 2012 3:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ve done my research and a vet would be great for this team for the playoffs. Pierce can hit the big shot when needed. Its not like im saying to give up Ty, Nene or Gallo. I’m talking Chadler and AAA. We would get pierce for 1.5 years and then his money would come off the books. Plus we are a deep team so he would only have to play 20-25 minutes a night. Your right about Allen but maybe Karl and him can put their differences aside for the greater good.

by soloking on Jan 30, 2012 6:01 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

But what if the GM's plan doesn't include trading for that type of vet?

What if the front office knows exactly what it’s doing to build a championship culture? I believe they do. I don’t think “rentals” are part of their plan.

No. More. Stickyball.

by LongWindedHank on Jan 31, 2012 4:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Allen DOES Hate GK

And I mean HATES!!! Allen went through the GK ringer.

by mtnmagic22 on Jan 31, 2012 9:02 PM MST up reply actions  

agree cloudburst. Question...

For all you fans who want us to poach the Celtics re: Garnett, Pierce, Allen – uhhhh – if they are so valuable, why do the Celtics stink?

by sgiustra on Feb 1, 2012 9:16 PM MST up reply actions  

AAA is a better offensive player - but a worse defender - than JR

Numbers don’t lie, check this out:

AAA, career ORTG (higher is better) and DRTG (lower is better): 114/110

JR, ORTG/DRTG: 106/108

Bear in mind that JR has two seasons on Afflalo, but this was sort of startling. AAA has about a +6 advantage over JR on offense, probably due to the efficiency of his game, but allows 2 more points when he’s in than JR would.

AAA is what he is – a Shane Battier type with a three ball. That’s all I ever expected him to be and more than that is setting the bar a too high, imo. Does that mean we overpaid? Maybe, but I feel that Afflalo’s offensive game will come along this season.

by Colin Neilson on Jan 30, 2012 10:27 AM MST reply actions  

J.R played against the teams bench players

AAA was always defending the starting player for the opposing team. That metric of stats isn’t that good.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 30, 2012 3:09 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Bullsh!t

JR played as many core minutes as AAA – “metric stats”?? Say no more.

by mtnmagic22 on Jan 31, 2012 9:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Don't throw stats -

How about IMPACT on games, impact on Won/Lost?

by mtnmagic22 on Jan 31, 2012 9:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Liked what I saw of JR last year after the trade but

seemed like, with JR, it was either a New Years celebration or a natural disaster and I dont think I want to risk ulcers. But no doubt JR has great talent.

I love AAA but I am really really disappointed in him so far. But my fingers are crossed and I’m expecting a turn around because, well, just because

by sgiustra on Jan 30, 2012 11:23 AM MST reply actions  

AAA is going to Al Buckets all of you guys soon enough

JR Smith couldn’t even be given a contract seeing he went to China. We have a team that likes to play together and chemistry does not need to be undervalued. The Nuggets don’t need a scorer(I have no idea why JR Smith is all of a sudden seen as a dependent go to guy), they lead the league in that department. They need better D if anything, although seeing they are 14-6 they may just be fine.

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by Phil H. on Jan 30, 2012 11:27 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

He needs to pick it up

..but I like AAA. Between his slow start (out of shape), injury and a deep team, he is a little buried right now.

JR would have won us 2 games and lost us 2 games. AAA hasn’t won us any but hasn’t lost us any either. He will get better.

by Pusherman on Jan 30, 2012 12:04 PM MST reply actions  

Karl won't play JR so it's a moot point.

I think JR/ Rudy would be better than AAA/ Rudy, but you know how Karl loves his grudges.
Plus I would get really pissed when JR is siting on the bench in crunch time.
JR deserves better than Karl, so that ship has sailed.
Plus I don’t think AAA is bad, he will pick it up

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Jan 30, 2012 1:05 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Maybe JR is better suited for this years team.

While reading your post it dawned on me that maybe GK shackled JR to the bench was because him in the lineup with Melo would have been a disaster, but having AAA in with Melo was perfect. He could sit in the corner wait for Melo to get double teamed and hit the 3 when it’s kicked out to him.
With our team now, JR may be better suited to start at the 2 because of his ability to create his own shot. Maybe giving him the title of “starting” would massage his ego enough to calm down some of the knucklehead in him.
I think AAA will get better, but I am firmly in the JR fanclub camp.

by Larry Cunningham on Jan 30, 2012 3:42 PM MST reply actions  

Prefer someone besides Afflalo/Smith

While I agree JR is a more gifted, skilled, and talented player than JR, he hurt himself the most by being a black hole on offense. Afflalo moves the ball more and fits better in this offense. Afflalo also has the more team-oriented attitude.

That being said, we can do better than Afflalo, and I do believe we overpaid (although not by too much) for Afflalo. I am interested to see how the development of Hamilton goes, and whether or not he can play the 2 with Gallo at the 3. If we can get good play from Rudy consistently, I would like to see him get more of the 2g minutes, at least for this season.

by Kleiza's Corner on Jan 30, 2012 3:48 PM MST reply actions  

While I know you didn't mean to write this:

While I agree JR is a more gifted, skilled, and talented player than JR

But I got a nice chuckle from the irony.

"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss. But currently slumming in a high-level management position.

by love4nuggets on Jan 30, 2012 7:40 PM MST up reply actions  

We don't need Afflalo to be a spectacular shooting guard

This team has enough scoring. Rudy off the bench fills the JR role. We do, however, need AAA to re-establish himself as something of a glue guy for the Nuggets: solid on-ball defense; ability to hit the open shot, because it will be there; ability to handle the ball effectively as needed.

How true is it that he didn’t do much work in the off season, and how might that be affecting his game in this condensed season that hit much too fast and in which every game matters? Regardless, I voted #7, and I sure as hell hope I’m right.

No. More. Stickyball.

by LongWindedHank on Jan 30, 2012 4:03 PM MST reply actions  

Keep watching as the season rolls along

Maybe even more exclamation points would have made your point better. Or you could have decided to make an argument.

No. More. Stickyball.

by LongWindedHank on Jan 31, 2012 11:14 PM MST up reply actions  

By the way, as I've said here many times

I love JR Smith. I wish his game and his career and his character had worked out differently. He was game-changing presence for the Nuggets on many occasions, and he had (still has?) the potential to become a much steadier player. Ain’t happened yet.

No. More. Stickyball.

by LongWindedHank on Jan 31, 2012 11:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I LOVE JR TOPICS!!!

JR – where are you when we need you? AAA never was, never will be, never can be JR. Done. Been saying it for a LONG time. Nice to see a fellow JR fan.

by mtnmagic22 on Jan 31, 2012 8:57 PM MST reply actions  

I like JR so much I don't want him to come to Denver

I want him to have a super NBA career and he can’t have that when the coaches initials start with g and end with karl.

Be free JR, be free!

by georgekarl on Jan 31, 2012 10:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Can we just swap AAA for OJ Mayo and get a scoring 2 guard!

by soloking on Jan 31, 2012 10:02 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Smith is still stuck in China. While his sister sits in the stands each game and tries to start international incidents, Smith has been balling like mad on the court. Today, he went for 60 off the bench in a playoff game. Smith was 21-32 from the field, hit 14 of 18 three’s, 4 of 5 free throws, grabbed 8 boards and only turned the ball over 3 times. Granted, I only saw the highlights from this video, but it looks like the 2-3 zone wasn’t very effective.

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/02/01/j-r-smith-scored-60-points-off-the-bench-in-a-chinese-playoff-game/

by soloking on Feb 1, 2012 3:57 PM MST reply actions  

That has to be the worst defens I have ever seen.

Coupled with an offensive dynamo on a ridiculous hot streak. Why was the game so close?

"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss. But currently slumming in a high-level management position.

by love4nuggets on Feb 2, 2012 7:37 AM MST up reply actions  

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