Stiff List 1-3-12 by Fly Agaric
- David Stern: Vetoing trades, being generally meddlesome and presiding over the league during an ugly, protracted lockout that, apparently, didn't solve anything: Players still have a ton of leverage to collude and go where they want and owners are still overpaying. Stern's time is up. He needs to go.
- DeMarcus Cousins: It is real tempting to covet Cousins as a pro basketball player. He's 6'11" and 275 lbs. of muscle and explosiveness and looks like he has a long and productive NBA career ahead of him. Yet, teammates and coaches from Kentucky to Sacramento call him coddled and a bully, and the reports of his meltdowns and confrontations do little to dispel those whispers.
- NBA schedule makers: 2012 is looking ugly. Who wants to see a team play a third night in a row? Who wants to see bricks heaved up on the tired legs of normally steady shooters? No one. There was no need to pack 66 games into such a compressed schedule, except to get more home games for the owners so they can make that concession revenue.
- Tim Tebow / The Denver Broncos: Now, I won't capture in a few sentences the nuanced, media microscope/pressure cooker that Tebow found himself in after that crazy, statistically improbable mid-season run. Suffice to say, Tim, and the rest of the Broncos, got into the playoffs in such an ugly manner that Denver sports fans are probably, like me, not excited at all about facing the 12-4 Steelers.
- The Denver Nuggets from downtown: When you have Danilo Gallinari, Arron Afflalo and Ty Lawson all as notable and solid — if not spectacular — perimeter players and have the best passing big man, in Nene, to work the in-and-out game, you are not supposed to be this terrible from deep (25.6%). Bench player Rudy Fernandez was supposed to be a spark off the bench. Instead he's been dropping bricks.
5 months ago
Nate Timmons
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Good list, we better get that 3 point shooting taken sooner than later and this schedule is retarded
Colorado Offense: Making bad pitchers look like CY Young Winners.
by Colsportsfan on Jan 3, 2012 1:22 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Taken care of*
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by Colsportsfan on Jan 3, 2012 1:23 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Fly, I was LITERALLY logging on just to update the Stiff List and ran across yours.
Great stuff man, decided you should just run with it this week.
I do not want anything to do with Cousins, good call on him. The Broncos, just so disappointing, but STILL IN THE PLAYOFFS! BEAT THE STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!
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Always happy to contribute
I got the first Stiff list of the regular season last year, too. So maybe it is a tradition?
Feel kinda bad that I jumped the gun if you were gonna write one, though. I have way too much time on my hands these days. Basketball could not have started soon enough.
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I didn’t include your line about Al Harrington saving the Nuggets from deep though … he’s only good for 28% this season from deep … ouch! Lawson is up at 35.3% though … not too bad thus far with small sample size.
No worries about jumping the gun, you have the tradition now my man!
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yeah, I laughed about that today.
Glad he has a bit of a long range shot now!!!
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Why do I not believe you Nate
about you logging on to do it?
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Because you’re an asshole? hahaha totally joking man!!! That was funny though. No, I actually talked to Andy on the phone this morning and was going to get one up. Seemed redundant since a lot of what Fly had was stuff I would have likely included. Can’t steal his Thunder, Oklahoma City style?
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haha, I was joking man! You're my boy Blue!
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I dont think we can be friends!
just kidding. I forgive you. When is SNO????
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The Broncos, just so disappointing, but STILL IN THE PLAYOFFS! BEAT THE STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck Nate. Our running game is virtually gone. Good thing for you guys. I fully expect a well fought game. :]
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Mini Hulk!!! You’re a Steelers fan? I forgot! Dumervil must smash Big Ben! :-)
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I was never your friend on Facebook to begin with...
lol
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
I don't even use Facebook
It is evil.
Just a figure of speech.
‘sides, pretty sure the Steelers will romp in Denver and will have about half of Mile High waving those silly towels. That’s what happened the last time the Steelers played here.
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You guys have a shot
It’s the Playoffs, afterall.
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Proud of it. :]
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Great list Fly
David Stern: I agree – it’s time to step down. You did some great things once upon a time but now you should ride off into the sunset.
Cousins: Cancer with a capital CANCER. Someone will always take a chance on him but until he loses his baby rattle, let him stay in Sac town. Or better yet, trade him to OKC so it will distract them enough for us to become #1 in the west. lol
NBA Schedule: Ya! Why DID they do the schedule like that? They could’ve just had fewer games and a longer preseason. I don’t know if anyone would’ve complained about that.
Tim Tebow: Every sports station is talking about the Broncos – nothing to say here that hasn’t been said already.
3 Point Shooting: Ya – I hope they warm up from downtown soon… I believe they will.
All in all a great post and an ugly win last night… But hey – any port in a storm right? I’m not gonna dis the ‘W’. Go Nuggets!
Solid list.
Honorable mention:
George Karl’s infatuation with Rudy Fernandez: Through 6 games, Rudy has shot 12-38 from the field, including 7-28 from deep, while averaging 23 minutes per game. Not only is he not making shots, he’s taking shots at poor times (see end of 3rd Q @ LAL) from deep when they don’t need to be taken. Rudy’s leash needs to be shortened.
Yep, great list....
I would add the Oakland Raiders to the list.
I may be the only Raider fan who is also a member of DS (please don’t blacklist me Nate and Andrew), so this is closer to my heart. But the Broncos tank job against the Chiefs looked respectable against that of the Raiders….
I’m itching to ban you Raiders Fan!! I have a couple Raiduh fan friends though, so I’ll let it slide for now.
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Ah the Broncos suck
I am from Denver, but don’t really have a football team, this should be a haven for Nuggets fans even if they also follow the Yankees, Red Sox, or Raiders. Right Nate??
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Yeah man, definitely. Our Nuggets fandom unites us all here!!!! Bam!
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Niners mainly
Raiders are my AFC team. But I dont usually pay attention to anyone but my Niners
Let's start a riot!
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finally
it has been quite a while since i have not been embarrassed to say I am a Niners fan
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ha ha thanks
I’ll refrain from Bronco related comments on this site. Like many Alakans, I have a complicated fanhood story. But please know that my Nuggets blood runs as true as a Bill Hanzlik floor burn!
I hear you man.
My favorite Hanzlik story is from when he was coaching and took the team to go see Karl Malone workout before the Nuggets played the Jazz. He pointed to Malone as a guy the young Nuggets should be mirroring themselves after, from a work ethic standpoint.
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That is classic! I'd love to hear more Hanzlik stories
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 3, 2012 7:44 PM MST up reply actions
I have a good Bill Hanzlik story.
When I was in junior high, I went with my father and younger brother to a game at Big Mac. Hanzlik was retired and working on the Nuggets staff in some sort of support role, maybe assistant coach or something like that. After the game my brother and I went down into the tunnel area to try to score autographs. As the players were exiting, one of Michael Addams bodyguards pushed my little brother over and caused him to have a nosebleed. Hanzlik witnessed it, chased down Addams and the bodyguard, and made them comeback and apologize to my brother and give him an autograph. Classy move, and my 10 year old brother talked about it for weeks.
by All Day Jay on Jan 3, 2012 8:10 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
No way, that's awesome!
Class act!
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 5, 2012 4:30 PM MST up reply actions
I have been dying for a skyline Hanzlik jersey! Any ideas wher I can find one???
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss.
I liked Lichti
Didn’t his career get derailed by injuries.
How about Mark Macon? Has he been inducted already? Battie?
i think Cousins would be a nice fit on...
The Bobcats!
No way he acts up if MJ is there to give spankings.
by InboundingLobPass on Jan 3, 2012 5:42 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Cousins isn't even starting for the Kings
No wonder he wants to leave. I’d get him if we could cut our losses in a trade, maybe Moz, Rudy and a 2nd round pick? Eh? Eh?
"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"
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has mercer been nominated yet?
getting beat down in the hallway by mc cleod alone should find him on it.
by Patrick KB. Nugget on Jan 3, 2012 6:20 PM MST reply actions
Aren't we glad we don't have this guy with us though?

My nominee for the stiff list.
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Shouldn't Kobe and his 105 women be an automatic stiff list candidate
Kudos to his wife for waiting it out 4 more years so she can get half his value. 76million I heard. Nice payday.
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I considered Kobe's terrible shooting
… and Westbrook’s temper tantrums.
But. Only five for the list. I wouldn’t comment on Kobe’s personal life. Which is why I avoided the Monda Ellis scandal. As terrible as Kobe is as a person, it’d just be piling on. I know Denver fans hate him, but hating on Kobe is such a Denver sports blog cliché.
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Terrible outside shot selection
I the last 4-5 seasons I have heard plenty of talk about Nuggets shoot from outside too much. Nuggets rely on the three to win and so on. Mostly people blamed Melo and in some part Billups but guess what these guys are gone. This year it is a very different team yet they still rely on tons of outside shots, most of them bricks. The common theme here is bad coaching. I should know.
I loved your advice about the poor three-shooting:
“Just keep on shooting!”
Hilarious! Other coaches, seeing something that doesn’t work, would suggest a different tact, like, say, driving into the lane, something Ty and Danilo seem to have figured out.
Makes no sense to settle for zero when you can at least get two and maybe an and-1 with a bit of mettle taking it inside.
If the Nuggets don’t shoot at least 30 percent from 3-point land, I’m going to… I don’t know. Do something crazy.
Open to suggestions.

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Join cloudburst in eating the article that bashed Harrington?
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