Hochman: Koufos extends for 3-yrs, $9 million
The American-Greek is back in the fold with a reasonable extension that will pay him roughly $3 million per season from 2012-15. The 2014-15 season is a team option.
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 25, 2012 5:04 PM MST up reply actions
This is a sign that Bird is leaving soon
I really would like Bird for a 2nd rounder next year. I like the contract, he is getting paid the same as Petro is making but is a superior big man off the bench than Petro who as all Nuggets know infamously as the guy who has a left foot for a right foot and a right foot for a left foot and was still better than Malik Allen…
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don't talk about old 'stone hands' like that.
by InboundingLobPass on Jan 25, 2012 7:54 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I want to insert a .GIF of the 'big...strong...hands...' guy from The Never Ending Story
But I fear censorship and the ban hammer.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 26, 2012 9:39 AM MST up reply actions
All I have to say is
Holy shit son!
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I hate it
Why the love? The Nuggets had a ton of flexibility next year to sign another free-agent, potentially a max, and they’ve crippled that with this signing. Koufus wasn’t going for that much more in the free market anyway.
Miller is coming off the books
Still plenty of flexibility.
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It will be tough to sign a max...
but yes they have flexibility. My point is that the Nuggets could have risk-free put themselves in a position to land Dwight Howard. Let’s forget for a second that he wants to play on the coast, etc. IF he makes it to free agency, there won’’t be a better option than Denver from a championship equity perspective.
As long as you’re not risking too much, I think you’re better off not signing Kouf to give yourself more of a chance to land a transcendent player like Dwight. It’s a 5% chance, but the risk was so small.
We are talking about a max player now?
I saw your post in the Gallo thread, and I know you want Dwight Howard, hell I’d love a Lawson/Gallo/Howard team, but Howard isn’t coming to Denver… Do you really want to hold out onto that 2% chance he comes here?
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And you want to sacrifice that 2% chance
so that we can throw $3mil a year at Koufos?
I don’t think it’s that we believe we’re necessarily going to be able to lure a max contract player here, but why would you remove that option before we even get a chance? Considering our first round draft pick will likely be taking up another $1.5-$2mil more of cap as well.
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They can dump Koufos
and that contract any time they want. Real easy to get someone to take a 7 footer like Koufos making 3 million for two years. If they need the room, they can probably get a 2nd rounder for him. This move doesn’t hurt their flexibility at all.
Exactly
It’s a very reasonable signing, in my opinion.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 26, 2012 9:40 AM MST up reply actions
Yes.... absolutely!
Holding out on Gallo, no. Holding out on Kosta, who figures to be a career 8-9th man, yes!! The Gallo signing definitely upped Denver’s chances at acquiring a superstar because it added stability to their lineup.
Teams have cleared their rosters for much less. We aren’t talking about cleaning house throw our hat in the D12 lottery. Kosta could have been had for about the same at the end of the season.
It’s not horrible news, but I just think it’s an unnecessary signing at this point.
To be honest
This deal is such a head scratcher that I have no choice but to believe Masai has something else up his sleeve.
Howard wants Maximum Exposure In A Big Market
To grow his Brand. He wouldn’t play here for any money. Wouldn’t want him anyway cause he’d cost too much and get injured. Great player…but can’t shoot.
This
But, I’d still be happy to have Howard as a Nugget. But he definitely doesn’t want to come here. It’s a cowtown. Moo!
And Howard doesn’t need to shoot. Just needs to dunk it a lot.
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pipe dream to think that we have even a 1% chance at Howard
plus would make our already bad FT% even worse ;)
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I don't think that at all
Just saying that I think Howard is a good player and I’d like him on the Nuggets. I know there is no chance of that.
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sorry, didn't intend to respond to you directly
just the idea by rxmart2 that the Nuggets should be manuevering in any way to be in that discussion, we’re not the Nets or Knicks that got played against each other by the Nuggets in order to get the most possible, SUCKERS!
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We can't get Howard
But it’s not inconcievable to step into Houston’s role and land Pau in a deal that get’s Howard to LA . .
Orlando gets: Faried/Moz/Chandler/Picks from Denver and LA + their choice of LA players
Denver gets: Pau + out choice of Walton/Metta or Blaker
LA gets: Dwight/Hedo/Dre/Bird
Yeah
I’d not be interested in that deal at all.
Not to mention it is for the wrong Gasol.
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Howard WOULD NOT cost too much
I’m not sure you’re understanding how much he affects a team on the defensive end. What’s more, his skillset (defense, offensive/defensive rebounding) is exactly what the Denver Nuggets lack. Forget about this small/large market mumbo jumbo because it’s just posturing—Dwight will end up with the team that gives him the most championship equity over the next years.
And he never gets hurt.
no way he ends up anywhere
but LA, NJ, or Dallas. not gonna show up in a “fly over town.” as awesome as it would be to have him, i think there is <1% chance that we could pick him up. its worth it to try to make a trade for him now (as im sure every team in the league has sent the Magic an offer) but as has been reported, the only team he wants to go to are those listed above. better to focus on our own team building rather than on what a prima dona superstar wants to do to expand his brand
If you really want him
Then I think the thing to do is move to LA then you will have an awesome chance if having him in your town. The Guy has an ego as big as Melo… He wants Exposure and endorsements and Really fun parties with lots of celebrities, in other words, Los Angeles.
Nothing wrong with desiring any of this
And beautiful, successful people do end up in LA. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Howard there. He has a bright future in acting and endorsements. He is a great basketball player, but he is also a real likable and personable guy. His ceiling doing endorsements and expanding his brand outside of basketball is limitless, so long as he’s in a market that isn’t Orlando, etc.
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Howard wants to be a movie star.....Denver is not that atmosphere
Would love to have him and never said the Nuggets wouldn’t need him, just don’t feel the need to waste any thoughts that we have a chance to get him, I have plenty other things to waste time on. Markets do matter unless you are a San Antonio that made it happen in a small market for several years, they are the exception.
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Howard is NOT coming here....
seriously stop thinking this, he already wants to leave a team that is a playoff team. He wants a larger market like Melo, he is not coming here, he simply wouldn’t fit here anyways
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by Colsportsfan on Jan 25, 2012 5:40 PM MST up reply actions
LOVE IT
Hey, Kosta! Let’s hang out some time. We could get gyros at Pete’s and I could introduce you to some ladies. Oh, you don’t mind pick up the bill, seeing how you are a millionaire and all?
Top 1 percent right there, buddy!
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Oh
And I promise not to misspell your last name any more: Koufos!
Got it!
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I had to think about this for 15 seconds until...
I realized that…This Is Good News!
KK is a solid depth guy and the price is right.
Whenever Koufos has been given 30 minutes a game… He has shown the ability to produce about 18 pts and over 10 boards. I think K2 can play if given the opportunity.
im fine with this
this sings of bird getting the axe either through trade, amnesty or a permanent seat on the far end of the bench. maybe send him back to dallas for that second round pick we gave them?
3 y / 9mil . . .
For a reasonable back-up. You can always move that contact if you want to get more cap space. I don’t see this as significantly impacting their flexibility.
At the worst you throw in a second round pick as a sweetner for a servicable rotation big man. You don’t think PDX, LAC, LAL, or even Dallas could use a decent 7 footer back up.
It’s not a needle mover but it certainly doesn’t hurt. . . remember the Avery Johnson signing – that hurt.
I'd like to see tweet saying "Hochman went to the barber"
Speaking of Greek, he’s looking like a younger, plumper Yanni right now, of course coming from a short, fat guy myself ;) NBA TV doesn’t make him look any better, more like Froto with a stache. Grow a goatee around that thing Ben!
It feels like Masai has something up his sleeve that we won’t hear about until it happens
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haha, we just had Hoch on the podcast. Dude is skinny! He's been killing the gym.
And the stache looks reasonable in person …
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 25, 2012 5:46 PM MST up reply actions
is he training for a sprinting rematch with Aaron Lopez of nuggets.com?
good for him though, must have made good use of his time during the lockout. is he still trying to do standup comedy? Perhaps the look is to help him with that ;)
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He didn’t say if he was continuing with the comedy, though he did talk about it. He and Lopez had a rematch! It’s on YOuTube I think too. He’s a good reporter, cares about the city and fans. Proud to have him covering the team.
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 25, 2012 5:55 PM MST up reply actions
i like him, don't get me wrong, read and listen to him all the time
he does care about Denver even though he’s a St Louis guy and glad he’s on our side.
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Me too
Good to have someone genuinely wanting to cover the Nugs, as his work seems to indicate. It’s tough being a hoops fan in a football town.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 26, 2012 9:49 AM MST up reply actions
Who's Froto?
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Ohh....LOL sorry
I thought it was some Euro player…seriously.
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I am not worried about this signing down the line
All it means is that the Bird is gone and KK is taking Bird’s money which is an upgrade IMO.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Karl has shown that as he gains trust with youth
He starts to play them more often. KK is a development process, but I see him as a solid backup bigman in his stint in Denver.
And he will be better than the Bird ever was, I am pretty sure about that.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
And he's making less than Bird and may produce more ...
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 25, 2012 5:47 PM MST up reply actions
will the new contract get him more PT?
we can only hope, especially if Karl is gaining more confidence in Moz. Is a Moz extension in the works too?
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Man, the rotations are hard to see.
The Nuggets are getting to Rockets territory … too many assets. Not enough PT to go around. I’d love to see Kouf and Faried be the backups here … we’ll see what happens after this crazy season.
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 25, 2012 5:56 PM MST up reply actions
Not only is he making less than Bird...
but according to the salaries at HoopsHype the $3mil he will earn next year (if it’s an even split of the $9mil) is less than the qualifying offer we would have needed to make to him.
North Carolina was the first place in the U.S. that gold was discovered.
David Thompson then moved to Denver and played for the Nuggets.
Didn't know that, but makes it seem even better
Also, I love your signature!
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by Artimus Mangilord on Jan 26, 2012 9:51 AM MST up reply actions
Gallo: This was the moment..
The most important photo in Denver Nuggets history…
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Why is this in the KK thread?
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The old Ragu????
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 25, 2012 5:59 PM MST up reply actions
That isn't K2!
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by Nate Timmons on Jan 25, 2012 5:58 PM MST up reply actions
Opps
Wrong photo, Kosta signing his contract was the most important photo in Denver Nuggets history.
I guess SD is revealing her true self.
This is a real photo of SD guys… watch out.
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we dont have cap space for a max
Nene, Gallo, AAA, Al and Ty already puts us at $40M. we’d have to amnesty Bird, trade away Brewer, Moz, Faried, Hamilton and then even with cap holds, we probably still wouldnt have enough for a max contract.
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Al makes more than Bird.
He could always be amnestied if needed.
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Fine by me
Max contract players tend to have the sort of egos and ballstopping abilities I’d rather not see on my Denver Nuggets.
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K2 is a good signing
If he gets just a little better, it may end up being a swell deal. Wait for Nene to miss a few games and we’ll see how many minutes he can cover. I understand K2 is a hustler in practice – he and Moz push each other. A little hunger on the bench keeps everyone sharp.
I disagree with all this talk about needing to clear for a max signing. If we make a move it should be for a good young player who fits this team’s philosophy at whatever position looks weakest. And we have plenty of cap room and pieces to make a deal at need.
Anyway, it looks to me like we just signed a near-max player for half-max money in Gallo, so we are ahead of the game.
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