Another one bites the dust as Kenyon Martin goes to China!
by popex_17 on Sep 21, 2011 12:31 PM MDT
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PrintWell, I guess there is something wrong with the Denver air, because Kenyon Martin has followed Wilson Chandler, J.R. Smith and Melvin Ely and signed the largest contract in Chinese Basketball Association history.
Benjamin Hochman has reported this deal and the link to the story is here. It is worth knowing that the city in which K-Mart is taking his talents to is in the Guiness Book of Records and here is why, according to Wikipedia: "The largest city in western China, Ürümqi has earned a place in the Guinness Book of Records as the most remote city from any sea in the world. It is about 2,500 kilometres (1,600 mi) from the nearest coastline".
So, I think that as of right now we barely have a full lineup. The only guys under contract still in Denver are the two rookies, Big Al Hamburger (Al Harrington), Chris "Birdman" Andersen, and Andre Miller. Our only reserve is the Big Greek (Kosta Koufas).
Well, looking at the bright side we'll be in the mix for the big lottery ticket in the draft class of 2012 while developing our young core plus having loads of cap space to maybe attract somebody in the free agent class (but as it is now, everybody wants to leave town not come to town).
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Expanding His Name Globally
Kenyon Martin’s agent summed up the biggest issue, in my opinion, with the NBA today with his quote, “And it also gives him an opportunity to expand his name globally”
The NBA really hasn’t been about ‘team’ since as long as I can remember, and more recently it hasn’t been about the game. It is all about the wallet value and the Q rating of an individual, positioning themselves to be an entity.
In the past 25 years, the prices of tickets in most markets have increased by 900%, yet the product the NBA has put on the floor is marginally better at best. The NBA has done a remarkable job marketing itself and its players, making perception reality, while laughing all the way to the bank at the fan’s expense.
by JackBrewster on Sep 21, 2011 12:04 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
If the Nuggets had any intention to keep Kmart then I'd partially agree
but since it was pretty clear they were parting ways anyway, I say good for Kenyon. Nice to get a good pay day this late in his career.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Sep 21, 2011 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions
My comments were not about Kenyon
but about the general mindset of the league as a whole. I have no problems with Kenyon or any other player getting paid what someone is willing to pay them, nor do I have an issue with charging prices people are willing to pay in order to attempt to maximize profitability (method for determining is debatable). However there is a point of diminishing returns, and NBA may have reached it under its current model of a 30 team league that emphasizes the individual to drive its position in the sports/entertainment market.
Just my opinion……..
by JackBrewster on Sep 21, 2011 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
cmon Jeff
Dudes been cashing ridiculous paydays for almost his entire career. Nice would be if he took the minimum for a change
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
Why? Why would that be nice?
So he can prove to Zachm219 that he just plays “for the love of the game”? I never understood people who hate on athletes for taking ridiculous gobs of money handed to them.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
by GAx on Sep 23, 2011 8:15 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
^This x so many
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by love4nuggets on Sep 23, 2011 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions
I was replying to GAx,
but yours is ok too. haha
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by love4nuggets on Sep 23, 2011 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
I wonder how regulare workers right now who've been given a choice of either Taking a pay cut or Taking an Indeterminate Unpaid Leave of Absence feel.
I mean, they can give up some of their paycheck and it’ll help their employers! Who wouldn’t do that gladly? What? Oh yeah! The owner of said company will definitely put take my money and re-invest it into the company. It’s for the good of the company! It’s not like he has a nickname for being cheap or anything.
I could go on but come on man. Let’s be realistic here. I am a Knick fan. I understand fan outrage over misspent money. I also tried to convince myself Eddy Curry would opt out of the final year of his contract because “He might! He wants playing time and he knows he’s hated in this city! Oh god please.” But you can’t really get mad at a player for signing for more than he’s worth. Get mad at your front office and owner. It’s not like a player’s allowed to renegotiate his contract to help his team’s cap situation later anyway.
Fish Fingers give me a break.
I'll just recommend this comment to other readers
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@GAx
“So he can prove to Zachm219 that he just plays "for the love of the game"? I never understood people who hate on athletes for taking ridiculous gobs of money handed to them.”
I agree with GAx. These guys aren’t accountants (millions of them), lawyers (millions of them),… these guys are freaks of nature. They are like the primo book authors who no one minds seeing get paid big bucks for their writing. – they are the best of the best on this planet earth – they are super big, super quick, super hops, super-beings who make watching them play basketball COMPLETELY different than any other basketball game you will ever watch. Why shouldn’t they be compensated. Obviously these armchair fans have no idea of the injuries and work out routines these guys go through – of the THOUSANDS of college athletes that come out every year that are SO dominating in college, how many make it in the pros? 7? 10? These guys are the most gifted athletes on the planet – why shouldn’t they be compensated? They risk injury and tear up their bodies every day. You accountants, and geologists and lawyers and blue collar guys that complain about their salaries are clueless if you think they are in the same category as “us”. The greatest musicians are compensated, the greatest authors are compensated – and so should the greatest athletes be compensated. Just a stupid lack of appreciation – what you see on TV ISN’T a bunch of “normal” 6’ guys playing pickup – the true fan is in awe of the skills and talent these guys have.
by mtnmagic22 on Sep 25, 2011 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
@Jeffrey
I agree – when Kenyon was out, the Nuggets D stunk. He was the stopper – whoever he was on, was pretty much shut down. And all the surgeries he had and injuries – he still sucked it up and played through it. Good for Kenyon and best of luck.
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by Nate Timmons on Sep 21, 2011 5:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Decent point...
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by Nate Timmons on Sep 22, 2011 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions
I has an enormous sad. :(
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Agreed, SD.
So long, only bad-ass Nugget in recent memory. This fan will miss you, and will continue to proudly wear his Thugget #4 jersey with pride.
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by love4nuggets on Sep 21, 2011 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions
reccied
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by love4nuggets on Sep 21, 2011 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Gee, I remember Calvin Natt like it was yesterday!
"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!"...
"Ohhh; the Denver Broncos?!?!?!" ...Homer Simpson
"Denver isn't considered a frontier maam, not these days"... Josh Randall (Steve McQueen) in an episode of Wanted Dead or Alive set in 1871, filmed in 1958.
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Hopefully you are joking.
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by Nate Timmons on Sep 22, 2011 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Go grab a copy of "Loose Balls" by Terry Pluto about the ABA.
Reading is achieving.
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by Nate Timmons on Sep 22, 2011 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions
The other bad-ass Nugget in recent memory.
Yeah, it was a joke, Calvin Natt goes back to the 80s and that’s how far back you need to go for the other most recent bad-ass Nugget.
Live and learn Grasshopper.
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I think standing by your personal convictions constitutes being a bad ass
and that’s why I point to Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf.
And Fat Lever...
And for trivia, who was the third guy we got from Portland in that move? Calvin and Fat were AWESOME!!!
That's it...
I’m heading to China. That place sounds awesome.
hahaha, I'll go too!
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by Nate Timmons on Sep 21, 2011 5:27 PM MDT up reply actions
fine then
At least let me learn Chinese first.
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by Army of Nugs on Sep 21, 2011 9:38 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
i like the army way
Learn by forcing it down your throat.
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by Army of Nugs on Sep 22, 2011 10:21 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
From Kmart
OakcliffBully Kenyon Martin
Yeah its true people on my way to play a season in China. Be back to the NBA when the season is over in China!
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by Jeffrey Morton on Sep 21, 2011 12:57 PM MDT reply actions
more
OakcliffBully Kenyon Martin
And no I don’t need tha $!!!! Just wanna play the game I Love!
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by Jeffrey Morton on Sep 21, 2011 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice. Boy is a competitor.
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by love4nuggets on Sep 21, 2011 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions
he obviously doesn't need the money
after hitting up the Nuggets for 91 million dollars and tying up their salary cap for 7 years.
Same old whine and cheese.
Not his fault the FO offered the contract, nor that he got injured. Dude kept himself in phenomenal shape. And when he was healthy, he played his ass off. Actually, he got hurt because he always played so hard, IMO. Much like people think Blake Griffin will do. But thanks for whining about his contract again.
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by love4nuggets on Sep 21, 2011 8:09 PM MDT up reply actions
i never complained about him getting injured
Nor did I fault him for taking a contract for 91 million dollars, I think a player should get as much money as he can. However, he still obviously doesn’t need the money after hitting up the Nuggets for 91 million dollars and typing up their salary cap for 7 years. What’s false about that statement?
True enough, but I'm a huge Kenyon fan
and everyone on here whines about him. He’s been the defensive heart and soul of the nugs and I think we’ll see a huge fall-off until Faried can gain some experience in the D realm.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
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by love4nuggets on Sep 21, 2011 8:18 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree
Our defense is consistently worse without him. Next time check yourself before you wreck yourself.
Not sure how I wrecked myself,
although I’d like to be able to rec myself from time to time.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
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by love4nuggets on Sep 21, 2011 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice! Ditto.
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by love4nuggets on Sep 22, 2011 7:17 AM MDT up reply actions
You betta check yourself before ya rec yourself
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by SDcat09 on Sep 22, 2011 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd!
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by love4nuggets on Sep 22, 2011 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions
I get tired sometimes of people glamourizing him
You say intensity, I say stupid fouls
You say defensive quarterback, I say captain of one of the worst defenses in the league.
You say heart and soul, he says “Ain’t nobody in a hurry to give me a contract, I ain’t in no hurry to come back.” and “If I had an extension I’d be out on the court right now.”
poor shot selection, playoff implosions, bad knees, old….good riddance
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
by Zachm219 on Sep 22, 2011 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
unrec
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by SDcat09 on Sep 22, 2011 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
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by love4nuggets on Sep 22, 2011 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
right back at ya :)
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by SDcat09 on Sep 23, 2011 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
@love4nuggets
Me too – the guy brought the lunch box and did the work in the paint – and the guy could SKY!!! No one mentions his hops but man, he could get up!! And he did put the “beast” in the Nuggets defense – too bad Nene couldn’t get a little of that in his heart – looking at Nene makes all of the good points in Kenyon stand out.
Good Bye and Good Luck
Only player that signed in China that could haunt us is Chandler. Sure hope J.R., Wilson and Kenyon are ready for some culture shock.
Think Chandler was the only one that Denver was going to try and keep anyways. I have to say that IF (a big if) the season starts on time. The free agent period just got a lot more interesting for Denver.
Nene still needs to be the biggest priority. Think he could be a breakout Nugget if the team builds around him and not a half-hearted Melo..
I'm not against re-signing Nene
but if they build around him we’re doomed.
@NugNugz
I agree – no heart, no guts, no leaders – a good solid player to be a supporting role type.
i know that big men are a premium in the nba
but I hope the Nuggets don’t over pay too much for his services.
culture shocked?
He will likely still be a celebrity.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Waaaaaayyyyyy bigger celebrity now.
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by love4nuggets on Sep 21, 2011 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions
When does the Chinese basketball league end...
This may be no big deal at all for any of our players if the lockout extends past the end of the Chinese season.
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Nene is not someone to build around
He is a perfect 3rd man on a contending team. I say this because he is too inconsistent to carry a team day in and day out. Afflalo, as good a guy as he is, also isn’t someone to build around. He is an excellent role player now, one of the best in the league, but he is no cornerstone for a franchise. During the times of the superfriend teams, in order to win a championship, because that should be the goal, you need at least one superstar surrounded by 2 or 3 very good players (read: all stars) and some other good specialists (defensive specialist, 3 point shooters, rebounders etc.). As of right now, we are a few all stars away from contending. Maybe with this proabable shortened season and with all players leaving town, it’s a good opportunity to rebuild completely, let Nene go, and try to land a potential superstar in the 2012 draft, because let’s face it, Masai is a very good G.M. and will probably not Tskitishvili us. Either way, we will certainly have a lot of new faces in town and hopefully they will be as fun to watch as were those who left.
sorry i know this may not be the thread for this but i wasnt sure where else to post it
I am going to ufc this weekend in Denver, i paid alot of money for my ticket $400+ to be exact. and used the flashseats ticketing system i was wondering if anyone had any experience with this for say a nuggets game or other even and if so how well does it work? has anyone had any problems etc? im very nervous about the idea of not having a paper ticket and the fact that ive never paid that much before i bought the ticket straight from tickethorse not from anyone else but again have not experience thanks in advance for any help!
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by lesnarhypetrain on Sep 21, 2011 2:59 PM MDT reply actions
It's very easy.
Take the card you purchased the tickets with to the stadium. They put it into a handheld reader, it scans, then prints off your tickets right there. I did it for a Nuggets game last year and it was the easiest thing I’ve done ticketwise and you shouldn’t have any issues.
by Colin Neilson on Sep 21, 2011 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep, Beefy is right.
You wont have an issue at all. I have Rogan tix for Friday night – same thing! I was just at the UFC press conference at Pepsi too, Tweeted out some pics @Nate_Timmons
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by Nate Timmons on Sep 21, 2011 5:29 PM MDT up reply actions
I got in contact with you on twitter let me know.
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by lesnarhypetrain on Sep 21, 2011 7:50 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I hit you up on Direct Message on there - check it out.
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by Nate Timmons on Sep 21, 2011 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions
I responded let me know where you wanna meet
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by lesnarhypetrain on Sep 21, 2011 8:27 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Unrec.
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by love4nuggets on Sep 21, 2011 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I shall rec your unrec
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by SDcat09 on Sep 21, 2011 6:46 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I rec'd your rec of my unrec.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss.
by love4nuggets on Sep 22, 2011 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions
McDonald's disagrees
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Wow. Just wow.
Incredible.
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You forgot about Ty Lawson,
but I see your point.
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Kenyon talking like he isn't coming back
It was expected though. This from his twitter:
It’s been a great 7 years in Denver! Thanks to all the true Kenyon Martin fans!!! Love you all! Tome to move on
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by stan_26 on Sep 21, 2011 3:39 PM MDT via iPhone app reply actions
So that's it then.
We’ve lost Kenyon, Chandler and JR, our defensive enforcer and our two best wings.
The Nuggets may as well be the Sacramento Kings at this point. What’s our upside, Ty Lawson and Arron Afflalo? And that’s assuming that we keep Nene, who is also a free agent.
This is really depressing.
It does look bleak
But I have faith in Ujiri. Also the fact that the Mavs won a championship gives me hope. Plus you never know who we get in free agency. Still a long time to go before you pout a face.
I will pout for the fact we won’t have an NBA for a while :(.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Sep 21, 2011 5:52 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
why would that give you hope?
the Mavs have one of the best players of all time. The Nuggets have… a sack of crap.
Pretty sure it's the rebirth
of jungle and jim jimenez the sweetheart.
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by love4nuggets on Sep 22, 2011 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions
i tend to agree with that
NBA 2k12 will be interesting this year. I’m not sure how they’ll field us a roster.
I can't wait to see the spin this time...
Dahntay Jones
Linas Kleiza
Melo
Wilson Chandler
JR Smith
Kenyon Martin
Raymond Felton (through a trade demand)
So for the Diva Coach, Voiceless/Faceless Owner and blind faithful…
Just how is it that it is EVERY SINGLE players fault and the owner & coach have no blame whatsoever?
I do feel bad for Ujiri… he’s hired cheap and will be put in a no-win scenario, there’s little chance for him to succeed. Hopefully Short-Arm Stan gives him the Dan O’Dowd No-Fault Clause.
Ladies and Gentlemen… and posters, I present to you… The Denver Clippers owned by Short-Arm Stan Sterling… Same indifference to the point of incompetence… but with less racial insensitivity
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by the word on Sep 21, 2011 6:18 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
we just had a great... best one in years...
So there’s that.
by InboundingLobPass on Sep 21, 2011 6:51 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
draft... meant to say great draft
by InboundingLobPass on Sep 21, 2011 6:57 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
@the word
A voice of reality! I think I rant on the Nuggets because I was so pi##ed off last year at the way George Karl handled the team – while some let JR drive you crazy, I was looking at the source of ALL upheaval. This should be a topic for discussion unto itself – I know a lot of folks disagree, but so far ONLY DENVER NUGGETS have jumped ship – now, why is that? NONE of them like GK – and I don’t blame them – to come back and play on a team run by him when they can go play ball without being under his thumb must be paradise. I think other teams players have stuck by their organizations because the LIKE their organizations. Chandler, KMart, JR (and maybe even Ty in the closet) couldn’t stand GK and he couldn’t stand them. They “didn’t respect the game” – give me a break – they just didn’t play soldiers and zombies and do whatever he said because, as we see year after year, the guy can’t coach. So ya, I"m a Nuggets fan, but GK has/had me so disgusted that I find it hard to believe that anything having to do with his input is going to succeed or be to the benefit of our players. I’ll get over it – maybe :)
And the only legit FA they were ever able to sign was Harrington... once he was overpaid
New flash… it’s not the player’s fault when a team horribly overbids for him. Try blaming the stooge writing the check for a change!!!
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Agreed
What free agent wants to come play for a coach who is trashed by every city and every star who ever had to deal with him – the only thing that overcomes that is $$$.
just saying
When NBA folks go to China a reminder of what that govt blocks..
Facebook
YouTube78910
Vimeo – Blocked since October 15, 2009.11
Twitter – Blocked since June 2, 2009.81213
Google Documents
Google+ – Blocked since June 28, 2011; accessible in certain areas of the PRC.
These folks should have taken some time and checked it out in person.. this is not Europe where many speak English and food is familiar…also they will have official escorts..and i am not talking about craiglist kind…no American TV..NFL..etc..
isolation in a nation of billions with a repressive govt. good luck with that..
Haha. The shittiness of the situation
is sadly humorous.
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by love4nuggets on Sep 21, 2011 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions
at least they'll have Starbury...
And each other.
by InboundingLobPass on Sep 21, 2011 8:22 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
trash them all you want
some day they’re going to come collecting on some debt and we’ll all be fucked.
I'm calling BS
There’s no way they’re signing to stay the full season in China. Chandler probably arranged an “under the table” deal to get released if the NBA season starts. Then, he told the rest of the team.
is anybody else doing these non opt-out deals?
why does it seem like its just nuggets players? this is fuckin bullshit, our team is going to be so awful. this better be as good a draft as everybody says it will be.
Here's what I've heard
Top pick Andre Drummond 6’11 C. Scouts say he’s the best big since Dwight. He’s said to be a mix of Amar’e and Dwight in terms of how he plays
2. Anthony Davis 6ft 11 pf compared to Kevin Garnett
3. James McAdoo 6ft 10pf compared to tim duncan
4. harrison barnes “most complete swing player since Kobe”
5. jared Sullinger pf 6ft 9 Kevin Love
Also in the draft will be Austin Rivers- steph curry, Brad Beal- ray allen and many more talents. And Perry Jones who was supposed to go #1 this year before he withdrew won’t make the top 5 next year.
do you really think that
5 once in a generation type players are going to come out of one draft? this is the same crap they say every year about every player. By the numbers, there will probably be one or two very good players, a few ok players and a bunch of crap in this draft, just like every year.
Are you the crankiest person
in the history of the world or what? Sheesh.
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by love4nuggets on Sep 22, 2011 7:20 AM MDT up reply actions
haha, you're so negative
this is from the same site:
1. Kyrie Irving pg- Rajon rondo
2. Derrick Williams – Michael Beasley
“same crap about same players” No. Want me to go on from the archives
2009
1. Blake Griffin 6ft 10 pf “physical specimen. Powerful” Karl Malone. Sounds right to me
2008
1. Derrick Rose 6ft 3 pg- Dwayne Wade in the body of a pg
All 3 China Fellas are single right?
I wonder what kind of perks are thrown in?
If there’s a season we are what? 10th in the West? Just a guess
by Nuggburg on Sep 21, 2011 10:05 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
They're all coming back with Asian Wives!
All except Ely… he’s not leaving.
by InboundingLobPass on Sep 22, 2011 2:55 AM MDT up reply actions
lol
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by love4nuggets on Sep 22, 2011 7:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Next year's draft will be awesome
It will probably be considered one of the best of all time if the players will fulfill the expectations that surround them. The Nuggets desperately need a franchise player and as enjoyable as the Knuggets were, they sorely missed a franchise player. If Nene signs elsewhere (he will probably do that), then we must give major minutes to the 2 rooks, try and see what can they do on the court while not forgetting to develop the MozGod (20+ minutes per game). Masai has to do everything in it’s powers to obtain another first round pick for next year (we also have Golden State’s 2nd rounder for next year from the Melo deal) and somehow get rid of Harrington because he clearly is the odd man out (much harder to do in reality than it is writing on a blog).
NOOOOO......
I’m sure gonna miss the only person on the nuggets team that made me feel a little bit gangsta.. Good luck kenyon in china all the best. And i’m still hopeful we’ll make the playoffs next year, hopefully UJIRI some how lands us a high draft pick in a trade… hopefully..
by Benjamin Sterne on Sep 22, 2011 3:20 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Hey Mr. Pro Athlete how about coming to Denver?
You mean the place where Darrent Williams was murdered? That Denver?
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I don't think that's legit...
But culturally, we are still “that ole cowtown” which makes it tough to draw these guys. And as always, I toss in the coach and his rep. It seems the front office redeemed themselves this year and have put a positive new light on the Nuggets from that aspect – but that 3 year GK renewal -ARGHHHH!!!!!! It STILL KILLS ME!
This goes against all my "anti-military" ranting, but...
Jerry Sloan would have made me happy – because a coach can be hard nosed and still have the respect of his players… other than that, I don’t know – I was a HUGE fan of getting George when he first came here – maybe because anyone looked better than Bdzelik (sp?). But I also remember a letter to the Denver Post from a Milwaukee fan that stated how GK had destroyed their team, how he hated superstars, killed the spirit of the players, etc, etc and I thought “no way” – so it took some proving for me to go from a GK fan to a “get rid of GK” person. He did or has done, in Denver, everything he was accused of doing in Seattle and Milwaukee – I’ve told the tale of reading how Ray Allen still blows steam out his ears at the mention of Karl’s name and I know Carmelo is breathing a sigh of relief – so back to your question – I don’t know – but I do know that our personnel has been in upheaval for quite a while and GK’s attitude and coaching have long run their course in our town. We should have beat OK City, despite what some folks say – Scott Brooks schooled George and looked great – but THEN, I remember that Rick Carlisle REALLY schooled Scotty in the next round when Dallas beat them – and I thought how the disparity between coaches exists, just as in players. Jackson, Sloan – great coaches, the Brooks, D’Antoni’s (ya, ya) – good coaches, the Karls… I mean, the guy even admits he gets a jag on these younger guys and “who they are” – there is a fine balance between coaching these guys/kids and still maintaining respect and communication – GK isn’t even close – just my opinion :) Another good “Topic for Discussion” – What constitutes a good coach these days in the NBA – THAT is a complicated discussion.
Interesting talk about what constitutes a good coach these days. It would be sweet to know what coaches think about players and if it has changed at all over the years. Of course, getting real talk from coaches would be impossible – to print at least. It’ll be interesting to see if Phil Jackson or somebody else comes out with a book.
Don Nelson would probably shed some good light on the subject.
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by Nate Timmons on Sep 25, 2011 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Since Adelman is currently employed I don’t think he’d offer up much, I’m thinking Nellie because he’s sort of a rebel and he’s retired, perfect time to open the flood gates with real talk.
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by Nate Timmons on Sep 26, 2011 3:42 PM MDT up reply actions
oh we already know that
Phil is going to cash in on another.
Hey Nate...
Why don’t you hang that out as a topic – should be REALLY interesting to hear what we stiffs think about this. You’re right though – any active coach who laid bare the quirks of their job and personnel would be in deep water….
Have the Nuggets have officially signed their draft picks yet, or do they have to wait for the CBA to be resolved first? It seems that they usally sign their draft picks right at the start of summer league, which would normally be after 7/1.
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Draft picks have not been signed
One assumes this will happen as soon as the lockout is officially lifted.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Sep 22, 2011 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
If the season starts late, I wouldn’t mind if we lost a ton of games. It will only put us in a better position for this draft, save money for a good free agency, and get our newbies some much needed playing time.
"I am te real mozgov. Stopp say I fake fans"
it would kill us if there's no season
and the draft order depends on an average of your last 4 years. However, I have also heard an option where the draft would be based on salary if there’s no season. That would give us the top pick
yes!
I like me some Anthony Davis! Go check out some videos of him, kid’s a freak of nature!
by InboundingLobPass on Sep 22, 2011 1:41 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Davis has a good chance at #1, but so does Drummond and McAdoo
If it was me, I’d take the center, Drummond http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx3bCS0FUEE
I wonder who Masai would take with the #1 pick? All 3 of those guys are seriously good, and no one is gonna complain to get Harrison Barnes at 4.
I didn't say not having a season
I said a late season.
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by KevinAwesome on Sep 23, 2011 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions
Some Chinese fans are planning to greet KM at Urumqi airport...
I`ve travelled there once, because of being surrounded by desert, it`s really such a dry city that I couldn`t adjust to.
BTW, former Nuggets Bateer is in that team too, if you still remember him.
GO GO NUGGETS!!!
still remember him!
I was just wearing his jersey last night!
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