Addition of Miller keeps depth at the point strong
When the Nuggets made the draft day swap with the Portland Trail Blazers of 26 year-old point guard, Raymond Felton for 35 year-old point guard Andre Miller (plus the No. 26 pick - Jordan Hamilton) the Nuggets opted for an aging guard, but a guard who is still getting the job done. The addition of Miller insures that the Nuggets will still have one of the strongest back-courts in the NBA.
When teams go on to win the championship, other squads try to mirror that success any way they can. Well, the Nuggets now have the aging point guard - the Jason Kidd - and the Nuggets have the undersized speedster that can change the course of a game completely - the J.J. Barea.
Andre Miller and Ty Lawson, 23 years-old, give the Nuggets one of the best back-courts in the league. Miller is an incredibly durable player, shoots a high-percentage from the field and at the foul line, works in the post, knows how to get his teammates involved, and showed in Portland that he can lead his team. During his 12 year NBA career, Miller has never played in fewer than 80 regular season games. He will be joining his sixth NBA team (five franchises since the Nuggets count twice) and the well traveled guard can still do it all.
During his first go-round with the Nuggets, Miller was a reliable scorer for a team that needed to find a way to take the scoring pressure off of Carmelo Anthony. When Miller was around, the Nuggets seemed to have the alley-oop etched into the playbook with Marcus Camby and Kenyon Martin being the main benefactors.
When Miller was traded, back in 2006, to the Philadelphia 76ers as the key part of the Allen Iverson trade - he continued to have success, but now with a young team trying to find ways to win. During the 2006-07 season the Sixers finished just 35-47. The up-and-down season of dealing with Iverson was a distraction for Philly and it showed. But with Miller on board for the next two seasons the upstart Sixers finished 40-42 ('07-'08) and 41-41 ('08-'09) and made the playoffs both years.
The veteran Miller, moved on from Philly and signed a three-year, $21 million deal with the Blazers in the summer of 2009. The Portland franchise was decimated with injuries to their core players in Brandon Roy and Greg Oden. The Blazers brought in veterans Camby and Miller to try to plug some holes, but what they got from the two veterans was much more than stop-gap players. The Blazers finished the 2009-10 season with a 50-32 record, but were bounced from the first round of the playoffs. This past season the Blazers again reached the post-season after finishing with a 48-34 record and lost to the eventual champion Dallas Mavericks in a hard-fought first round series. Miller played well in Portland and he helped LaMarcus Aldridge become a star in Portland.
This past season Miller was fourth on the team in scoring with 12.7 points per game, first on the team with 7.0 assists per game, second in steals with 1.41 per game, sixth in rebounding with 3.7 per game, second in field goal percentage with 49.3%, and third in free throw percentage - finishing 79% from the line.
'Dre, as he's known, is not much of a three-point shooter. When the Nuggets moved Miller for Iverson and eventually Iverson for Chauncey Billups - the Nuggets finally had that point guard who could really stretch the floor. Billups made the Nuggets a very dangerous long-range team and Miller, unlike Billups and Kidd, wont be able to help the Nuggets from deep, but his drive and dish game will certainly set up good looks for Arron Afflalo and other Denver shooters. And you can once again expect the alley-oop to become a staple of the Nuggets offense.
Chris Dempsey, of the Denver Post, had a couple of nice stories on Miller this week. In the first he discusses with Miller the starting role in Denver. And in the second he talks to Miller about how the player did not speak to Nuggets head coach George Karl until this past Sunday (since being traded in 2006 by Denver).
It will be very interesting to see what Karl does about the starting point guard job as both Lawson and Miller are NBA starters. I'm not sure the Nuggets can put Lawson back on the bench. Last season when Felton came over from the Knicks, Karl went ahead and anointed Lawson his starter. It is well known that Karl absolutely loves Miller's game, so it will be interesting to see how Karl utilizes the former University of Utah star. I think we will definitely see Miller and Lawson on the court at the same time as Miller's size can allow him to guard most shooting guards, but what happens to Afflalo in those lineups? It's always a risk to play with a smaller team, so if Lawson, Miller, and Afflalo are on the floor at the same time - the Nuggets might be in a tough spot defensively.
With Lawson, Miller, and Afflalo manning the back-court I don't see much room for another guard to really work their way into the lineup for substantial minutes. Those three players all can play 30+ minutes every night. Miller has averaged 34.4 minutes per game throughout his career and played 32.7 mpg last season with Portland.
To some it seems crazy that Denver elected to swap a 26 year-old guard for a 35 year-old one. It was obvious that Felton was not comfortable in a backup role during the prime of his career. It wasn't fair to Felton to keep him in Denver. The former Tar Heel is in the last year of his deal as well and will make $7.5 million next season, and Miller actually will make roughly $300,000 more with his $7.8 million figure. Money was clearly not the issue here, but rather finding the right combination of players. The Nuggets not only added a starting guard to the team, but they also gained a very exciting prospect in Jordan Hamilton in the draft night trade.
Miller told Denver Post reporter Chris Dempsey that he plans on playing another 3-5 years and that he'd like to finish his career in Denver. If Miller can remain productive for the twilight of his career and if Hamilton can show the promise the Nuggets hope he has, this will be yet another smart trade by the Nuggets. If you were ranking point guards right now, it would be hard to argue that Miller doesn't rank higher than Felton. Just look at their career stats:
| Min per game | FG% | 3pt% | FT% | REB | AST | STL | Turnovers | Points | |
| Andre Miller | 34.4 | 45.9% | 20.4% | 80.7% | 4.1 | 7.2 | 1.4 | 2.6 | 14.4 |
| Raymond Felton | 35.2 | 41.2% | 33.3% | 78.6% | 3.5 | 6.7 | 1.5 | 2.6 | 13.7 |
There are certain trade-offs between the two, as Miller shoots a better percentage from the field, but Felton can stretch the floor a bit better from beyond the arc. Felton however is entering the prime of his career and will be a great addition to the Blazers.
Felton showed, in his short time in Denver, that he was a very different player than what his days in Charlotte highlighted. He was a good defender who never shied away from a challenge (guarding Kevin Durant in the post-season), a vocal leader that the Nuggets needed in a post-Billups world, an above average rebounder for a guard who went in among the trees to try to grab the ball, and he was never afraid to take difficult shots.
Miller and Felton are both guards who like to score and who are at their best when doing so. I can recall being frustrated with Miller in the past as he looked for his own shot in Denver a little too much. But I also remember the Nuggets not having a lot of options and Miller, being a reliable scorer, probably felt he needed to do a little more on the offensive end with the Nuggets.
This new Denver team, and new front office, should be a welcoming place for Miller. At the post-draft press conference, general manager Masai Ujiri talked about how excited Karl was to be getting Miller back. Ujiri even hinted that the Nuggets might have found their "Jason Kidd". The reporters in the room also noted how much Karl respected Miller's game. It seemed as though everyone in the room knew it was hard on Karl when he lost Miller in that Iverson trade.
Looking back it's hard to be upset with the Nuggets for dealing Miller for Iverson because, at the time, it was exciting to think what Iverson and 'Melo could do for the Nuggets. It's even harder to regret that trade after the Iverson experiment failed because the Nuggets were able to turn Iverson into Billups and that great Western Conference Finals run.
And finally, the re-acquiring of Miller means that we don't have to imagine the Nuggets dealing Felton for a big man and then being forced to ink a backup guard in the form of Carlos Arroyo or Anthony Carter.
The addition of Miller means the Nuggets still possess a very dangerous back-court.
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You know the great thing about Miller is
that he really does drive to the basket like a fullback, he has never been faster than opposing pointguards, he just posts them up, wabbles and tobbles until he is close enough to the hoop.
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"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."
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Welcome back Andre Miller!
Logic is only the beginning of wisdom.
Miller always killed the Nugs after the trade.
I hope he finds anger to use against the rest of the league. He should play well against the Clippers after his bodycheck of Blake Griffin. Maybe we should post a photoshop of the opposing team’s post guard wearing a Andre Miller Sucks t-shirt in all the game previews to get Miller riled up.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
I like this video more now that Miller is a Nugget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQrNYIBw3fw&feature=related
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
i was just about to post that...
i dont think griffen flopped either. miller gave him the bums rush and dropped the kid.
by calvin brodus on Jun 28, 2011 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions
if you view some of the video suggestions
pretty much everyone “beats up” on blake…i mean he literally crashes to the ground on a slight bump
J.UST E.NJOY T.HIS S.HIT
This is Forty08.
I forgot all about that!
It is always good to have a guy who won’t back down from a guy who would easily kick his ass, that is the kind of grit you want on a team.
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Welcome back Andre Miller!
Logic is only the beginning of wisdom.
He got suspended for one game because of that
Broke his ridiculous streak of consecutive games. Something Nate forgot to mention is that Dre is incredibly durable and almost never gets injured
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
You missed the part where I said he has never played in fewer than 80 games in a season…
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by Nate Timmons on Jun 28, 2011 7:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
hmmm touche mr. timmons
You parried my advance quite nicely good sir (……beer)
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
I love the Dre trade
Felton really wasn’t that reliable behind the arc like Chauncey, plus I have a feelin we acquired a 3 pt bomber in Hamilton anyway so Dre will get him the ball and get those 3s people are worried he won’t get.
I hope we keep JR and somehow trade Wilson/ Harrington for some prospects/ useful players. That way Hamilton will get some chances to show what he is made of.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Jun 28, 2011 2:01 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
if they lose KMart they still need another veteran
Or Dre will be the only elder statesman to lead a very young squad. A veteran playoff tested back up big man could do wonders to teach our young bigs, and provide some leadership. Any suggestions?
by jd80229 on Jun 28, 2011 3:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Howard is available, and done
He couldn’t get minutes on a team that had zero depth, only 5 nba caliber players, and only 3 starters.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 28, 2011 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions
NO thanks
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
If we're talking about needing a veteran presence
why not fill a need as well. If we lose Chandler (likely) Shane Battier would be a great pick up
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
Outside of KMart...hmm
We need a PJ Brown type of player. I was going to say Juwan Howard, but is he still stuck on the Heat roster?
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Jun 28, 2011 3:42 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow I just typed that the same time JBNuggs posted
Without seeing what he said. Creepy, I guess Juwan wouldn’t mind another tour of duty here, it seems a lot of players are doing that with the Nugs these days.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Jun 28, 2011 3:43 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
OT: Nene free agent story (oh and JR too)
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/shaun_powell/06/28/top-10-free-agents/index.html
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GALLLLLLLLLLOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by The U.N. Fab Five on Jun 28, 2011 4:46 PM MDT reply actions
NO is in a very tough spot.
Take a flyer on Oden? My brain says no way…but what if he actually stayed healthy? He (if healthy) and Nene on the front line would be epic. I don’t think he’s ging to try and come back until January though.
did they mispell Big Baby Davis??
I would love to have that dude, high energy, aggressive, and can score when needed. The Celtics would be dumb to let him go, like they did with Perkins. Imagine OKC with no Perkins to intimidate the Nuggets in round 1, different result.
by jd80229 on Jun 28, 2011 5:00 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
i would let Nene walk to get Big Baby Davis
We know he has a motor and was a vital piece to the Celtics championship, and dude plays bigger than his height while Nene is the opposite. The last 3 years of Nene have been almost solid not spectacular, and he has been durable compared to years previous but I get the feeling that Nene paces himself throughout the season so he can stay healthy given his injury and healthy history, which is understandable at a human level but maddening as a basketball fan. How many times can we say Nene has performed well on the second of back to backs the past 3 years?
by jd80229 on Jun 28, 2011 5:54 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Disagree
Faried will end up being more valuable to us, regardless of whether or not he develops a jumper, plus I just don’t like Davis…. dude is a horrible flopper and we aren’t gonna need another 6’6 PF
6'6" PF whos better than our 6'9" PF who is a horrible whiner
by jd80229 on Jun 28, 2011 7:12 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Martin's defense is light years better than Baby's D
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by LACK on Jun 30, 2011 4:58 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
IoI what, I know the bbaII inteIIect on here is more casuaI than other sites but srsIy... THIS.
have you watched davis pIay, he’s Iike the Cs version of feIton in the front court, or when karI tries to pIay aI at pf or center, except with more defense and Iess range but he sucks at shootin around the rim.
someone had to say it
nene = borderline all star
baby = solid bench guy
by Rainbow skyline on Jun 28, 2011 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions
i'm not saying to pay Davis like they would for Nene
Or start him for that matter, he would be a solid bench guy for us to or spot starter. He may be a clumsy oaf, but he goes after it and the Celtics wouldn’t have won a championship without his contributions.
by jd80229 on Jun 28, 2011 9:27 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
The Lakers wouldn't have won a championship without Trevor Ariza's contributions either.
That doesn’t mean he’s a better player than what we got already.
by All Day Jay on Jun 28, 2011 10:49 PM MDT up reply actions
dumb analogies but whatever
I like the more defense, takes charges (and flops), gets OFFENSIVE boards, and can hit an outside shot when necessary.
by jd80229 on Jun 28, 2011 9:37 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Nuggs May Need to Overpay Nene a Bit
I believe the Nuggets will sign Nene this week, even if they have to overpay him a bit. If they are not happy with him at his new price tag, he would be highly tradeable. You just can’t let assets walk for nothing.
by ACEIII on Jun 28, 2011 7:13 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
especially big men
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
I miss the 4 point, 15 rebound games he would ususally pull.
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"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."
President of the AAA fan club.
Welcome back Andre Miller!
Logic is only the beginning of wisdom.
I missed him abandoning his man to try and get a block
then watching his man get the ball for a wide open dunk.
Also, don’t forget the knuckle jumper
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
AKA
the slowest shot in the history of basketball. I especially loved how he would pretend he might pass the ball, then decide, nope, I need to clank up another miss here.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 29, 2011 9:10 AM MDT up reply actions
Remember when he got the DPoY back in like 2007 or 2008?
If I remember correctly, we were bottom 5 in both points allowed and defensive efficiency.
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Sometimes I get this crazy dream, that I could just drive off in my car. But you can travel over ten thousand miles, and still stay where you are" - Harry Chapin
by LACK on Jun 30, 2011 5:00 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions

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