The Third Annual STIFFY Awards (and First Annual NON-STIFFYs!)...
Just for you, the fine readers of Denver Stiffs, we present the Third Annual STIFFY Awards and the First Annual NON-STIFFYs...
THE THIRD ANNUAL STIFFY AWARDS...
STIFF(S) OF THE YEAR: CARMELO ANTHONY AND LEBRON JAMES
This award has been re-labeled from the "Least Valuable Player" to the "Stiff of the Year," because it's hard to argue that either of this year's recipients - Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James - aren't "valuable." In fact, each is so valuable that they single-handedly changed the fortunes of the franchises they now play for and departed from.
The ruination of the NBA was started by LeBron on July 8th, 2010 when he decided to stab all of Ohio in the back and take his "talents to South Beach" by colluding with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh to form a super team in Miami. With that one move, LeBron, Wade and Bosh made two additional NBA teams unwatchable and not worth the price of admission for those who pay for season tickets.
And the ruination was continued by Melo for seven nauseating months soon thereafter as he forced a trade to New York to begin the formation of his own super team alongside Amar'e Stoudemire.
Thanks to these two self-centered assholes, the two most dramatic moments of the 2010-11 season came during press conferences: LeBron's "The Decision" in July followed by Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov's on January 19th when the big Russian declaring that the Nets would not pursue Melo.
I've spoken to a number of NBA executives who have told me that had LeBron stayed in Cleveland, Melo likely would have stayed in Denver. But LeBron's infamously moronic "The Decision" changed everything, so much so that the NBA will likely go on lockout for at least half of the 2011-12 season as owners and players duke it out to form a system where small-market franchises don't get annually hijacked by the star players they draft and develop.
But at least LeBron's callous and heartless act was quick. Melo, on the other hand, dragged an entire franchise, fan base, his teammates and coaching staff through seven infuriatingly frustrating months, threatening to destroy the Nuggets' 2011 playoff chances along the way. In fact, when complaining that the Nuggets don't have home court advantage when the playoffs start on Saturday, be sure to send Melo a "thank you" note for all the bad losses caused by the Melodrama before his departure.
After attempting to hide the worst kept secret of the 2010-11 season through the All-Star Game, Carmelo Anthony (and his wife LaLa Vazquez) finally got his/their wish and forced the Nuggets to trade him to New York. As if that weren't bad enough, Melo took Denver native/legend Chauncey Billups with him and upon arriving in New York, Melo couldn't be bothered to say one nice thing about Denver or even mention the city's name for a while. (Lest we forget the announcement of LaLa's VH1 show the very day they arrived in New York, proving that this was cooked up months and months ahead of time.)
Melo sure had an odd way of showing his gratitude to a franchise and a fan base that stood by him through numerous run-ins with the law, suspensions, hissy fits and failed playoff performances, notably in series-ending games. But it's hard to rag on Melo too much because at the end of the day, he helped formulate a trade that made the Nuggets immediately better and sure to be even better in the long run.
Nuggets vice president of basketball operations Masai Ujiri may be tired of the Nuggets vs. Knicks post-"the trade" comparison, but it sure doesn't get old here. Since consummating the trade to ship Melo out of Denver, the Nuggets are an incredibly impressive 18-6 and are 9-1 against sub-.500 teams, with most of those nine victories being blowouts. With Melo on-board in New York, the Knicks are a disappointing 14-12 and are a ghastly 7-6 against sub-.500 teams, with four of those "victories" coming recently against Leastern Conference bottom feeders tanking to get more ping pong balls in the upcoming Draft Lottery.
I still maintain that this trade will prove to be a good one for both teams in the long run. The Nuggets needed to rid themselves of the Melodrama and build for the future, while the Knicks needed more star power to lure a third All-Star who has never won anything to New York.
Cavaliers fans, unfortunately, aren't so lucky. LeBron left them in a state of destitution from which that franchise may never recover. But while LeBron might look good in a Heat jersey now and the Nuggets might look great in a post-Melo world, we mustn't ever forget what these two did to their loyal fan bases and how the NBA landscape now has more unwatchable teams than ever before due to the collusion these guys partook in. Topping that off, the Nuggets are surprisingly much better without Melo (in a superior conference) whereas the Knicks are just as bad with Melo (in an inferior conference).
So for all that, LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony are Co-Stiffs of the Year.
Runner up: LaLa "Yoko" Vazquez
Past recipients: Gilbert Arenas (2010), Allen Iverson (2009)
WORST COACH OF THE YEAR: BYRON SCOTT
I can now admit it: In Cleveland LeBron was better and his surrounding cast was worse than I originally thought. But his surrounding cast wasn't this bad.
How is it that I knew Byron Scott had a history of being Dan Issel 2.0 - i.e. being able to charm owners with his playing day pedigree to land a coaching job, only to have all his players quit on him at the first sight of adversity - and yet Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert didn't know this and gave the guy a four year, multi-million dollar deal?
I know Cleveland was devastated in the wake of LeBron's departure, but 26 consecutive losses is unacceptable by any measure, especially when you play in the Leastern Conference. In fact, Scott is so incompetent that the Cavaliers can't even lose right, as it seems they'll be tying for the worst record in the NBA rather than securing it.
Runners up: Vinny Del Negro (you have a top-three power forward and can only win 31 games?), Kurt Rambis (ditto), Tyrone Corbin, Mike D'Antoni.
Past recipients: Kiki Vandeweghe (2010), Michael Curry (2009)
WORST EXECUTIVE OF THE YEAR: LON BABBY
How do you turn a Conference Finals runner up into a sub-.500 team in one year? Hire former NBA agent Lon Babby to run your basketball operations.
On Babby's watch, the Suns lost Stoudemire to the Knicks and weren't smart enough to get David Lee in return (whom the Knicks were hell bent on trading to the Western Conference no matter what). With Lee playing alongside Steve Nash, Grant Hill, Channing Frye, Jared Dudley and the rest of the Suns inspiring 2009-10 roster, the Suns would be battling with the Nuggets for the five-seed right now.
Instead, as noted by Bill Simmons, Babby acquired two of his own clients (Josh Childress and Hedo Turkoglu) while overpaying for Hakeem Warrick and to keep Frye.
Nash deserves a better ending to his great NBA career.
Runners up: Danny Ainge and Donnie Walsh (by way of James Dolan, see more below).
Past recipients: David Kahn (2010), Steve Kerr (2009)
WORST ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: AL-FAROUQ AMINU
Remember when Nuggets fans (including this one) were hoping for a Melo deal to the Clippers that would have included Blake Griffin, Eric Gordon and Aminu? Perhaps we lucked out on not getting Aminu, at least.
The eighth overall pick in the 2010 NBA Draft, Aminu wasn't able to get meaningful playing time on an awful, injury-riddled Clippers squad. That's right, the eighth overall pick couldn't get PT on the Clippers! And in the few minutes he played, he made the least of it, averaging 5.6 ppg on 39% shooting to go along with more turnovers than assists.
Runners up: Evan Turner, Derrick Favors and Ekpe Udoh.
Past recipients: Hasheem Thabeet (2010), Danilo Gallinari (2009)
LEAST IMPROVED PLAYER: O.J. MAYO
Mayo has played marginally better lately in the absence of Rudy Gay and has helped the Grizzlies return to the playoffs for the first time in several seasons. But the numbers - and steroid test results - don't lie. Mayo, a third year pro, has seen his scoring average dip by over six points per game and his field goal percentage drop by five percentage points (to a lowly 40.8%). Oh, and there was that whole "failed drug test" thing that he got embroiled in late January, to which Mayo conveniently played the "I didn't know what I was taking" card.
Past recipients: Yi Jianlian (2009)
LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD: JAMES DOLAN AND ISIAH THOMAS
The feel-good story happening in Denver right now thanks to Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, Raymond Felton and Timofey Mozgov was happening in New York until Dolan and (allegedly) Thomas forced Donnie Walsh and Mike D'Antoni to take on Melo regardless of the cost. Until the Melodrama reared its ugly head towards New York, that was a fun Knicks team to watch and they won a lot of games.
But Dolan, a known starfucker, simply couldn't resist pulling the trigger on acquiring Melo, even if it meant gutting three-fifths of the Knicks' starting five, two-thirds of their core players and ridding themselves of perhaps the one center with the biggest future upside in the Leastern Conference. If you believe the many NBA experts that contend that Melo would have gone to the Knicks via free agency no matter what, then count me in for the next time Dolan hosts a poker game.
But this was just the latest chapter in the ongoing Dolan/Thomas saga that has ruined Knicks basketball since the departures of Patrick Ewing and Jeff Van Gundy. We needn't revisit the assortment of bad moves that brought in and/or overpaid for Stephon Marbury, Allan Houston, Steve Francis, Larry Johnson, Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Tracy McGrady, Larry Hughes, Vin Baker, Anfernee Hardaway, Tim Thomas and so forth since Dolan, and then Thomas, oversaw the organization. Just read that list again!
And for Dolan to have (again, allegedly) engaged Thomas in the Melo deal - after Thomas previously ruined the Continental Basketball Association (the CBA) in one summer, failed in Toronto, failed in Indiana, failed in New York and then failed at Florida International University - with an eye towards bringing Thomas back in the future while not re-upping Walsh, is so beyond ludicrous that there are no words to describe it.
Dolan and Thomas are alleged to be close because no one takes them seriously and they are publicly ridiculed and vilified. And with good reason. Well, now these two have something else in common: the Stiffy Award for Lifetime Achievement.
Past recipients: Chris Cohan (2010), Donald Sterling (2009)
THE FIRST ANNUAL NON-STIFFY AWARDS
NON-STIFF OF THE YEAR
ANDREW'S PICK: DERRICK ROSE
Carlos Boozer misses 23 games. Joakim Noah misses 34. Rose has seven new teammates and a new head coach. And yet the Bulls win a Leastern Conference best 60 games, the most wins for a Bulls team since you-know-who dominated the United Center. Now that's an MVP performance.
NATE'S PICK: DERRICK ROSE
25.1 points, 7.8 assists, 4.1 rebounds, has missed just one game, and his team has the best record in the East. I watched a lot of Bulls games this season just to watch Rose play. The guy is electric, a must watch, and a must catch in person when he comes to your team's town as he makes 3-4 plays a game that make you bulge out your eyes - Tim Duncan style. Rose plays with an unrelenting fire and is a gracious team player.
JEFF'S PICK: DWIGHT HOWARD
I'm aware that Derrick Rose is the sexy pick, but I also recognize that Orlando would be a below .500 team if they didn't have the big fella in there. He has the right numbers. He has the national publicity. I think it's time that D. Howard get's his due recognition.
BEST COACH OF THE YEAR
ANDREW'S PICK: GEORGE KARL
I love Tom Thibodeau. He's not a former player. He looks like a 1950s chemistry teacher. And he can coach the hell out of a basketball team. Are the Celtics struggling because they lost Kendrick Perkins at the trade deadline? Or are they struggling because they lost "Thibs" before the season even started? The Celtics regular season demise combined with the Bulls stunning ascension means I have no problem with Thibodeau winning Coach of the Year.
But no one has had to endure more adversity, both on-and-off the court, than George Karl. For Karl's with-Melo Nuggets to lead the league in offensive efficiency and position themselves for a five-seed in spite of the Melodrama, and then to transform the post-Melo Nuggets into a team that leads the league in defensive efficiency while still clinging to that five-seed is nothing short of remarkable. Call me a homer, but George Karl should be the 2011 Coach of the Year.
NATE'S PICK: TOM THIBODEAU
The Bulls earned the all-important No. 1 seed in the Eastern Conference, became a defensive juggernaut, and play outstanding team basketball. The former Celtics assistant coach did a great job in year one despite big free agent acquisition Carlos Boozer not playing over 60 games and Joakim Noah not playing in more than 50 regular season games.
JEFF'S PICK: GEORGE KARL
I'm saying this knowing that Tom Thibodeau will most likely win this year. I wrestled with this for a long time, but I think that Karl has overcome alot this season by holding the team together while the Carmelo Anthony mess was going on and then guiding the Nuggets to a sterling record after the trade (incorporating new players very quickly). No other coach has faced what Karl has faced this year (including coming back from throat and neck cancer) and this should be taken into consideration. Yet, it won't.
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
ANDREW'S PICK: BLAKE GRIFFIN
This isn't up to debate, is it?
NATE'S PICK: BLAKE GRIFFIN
22.4 points and 12.4 rebounds a game. Franchise changer.
JEFF'S PICK: BLAKE GRIFFIN
This will go to Blake Griffin. There's some question as to whether he should be called a "rookie" or not, but the fact is not a single player in the NBA has changed the culture of a team (despite Donald Sterling) than Griffin has the Clippers. While it hasn't reflected completely in the team's record, we Nuggets fans have seen first hand how dynamic Griffin can be. Game changer indeed. Watch out for those knees though.
6TH MAN OF THE YEAR
ANDREW'S PICK: LAMAR ODOM
Despite coming off the bench for much of the season and playing about the same minutes as last season, Odom was actually better in 2010-11 than he was in 2009-10. He even increased his field goal shooting by seven percentage points to a career-high 53%. And on the intangible side, Odom presents matchup problems, on both ends of the floor, that competing teams still don't know how to handle.
NATE'S PICK: LAMAR ODOM
Sure, he's started 34 of the team's 80 games thus far, but that's only because of injuries - not by design. Odom averages 14.2 points and 8.7 rebounds per game and transforms the Lakers into an unbeatable team when he gets going (not to mention he's a match-up nightmare as a 6'10'' big with guard skills). Odom could start for every other team in the NBA, but has taken on a special role with the Lakers to stay with a winner.
JEFF'S PICK: LAMAR ODOM
As much as this burns me I have to say Lamar Odom probably deserves 6th Man of the Year over everyone. While at times Odom can be just as large an enigma as J.R. Smith, he is more consistent and provides things that you just cant account for. One of the best passing/court running "bigs" in the NBA. He also has a great jumper and can drive to basket quite excellently. Yes, he has serious flaws - and he's married to a Kardashian - but that shouldn't stop him from winning this season.
MOST IMPROVED PLAYER
ANDREW'S PICK: KEVIN LOVE
In only his third NBA season, Love increased his scoring average by six points per game, his rebounding average (which led the NBA) by four rebounds per game and improved both his field goal and three-point shooting. Oh, and did I mention that he had 53 straight double-doubles? The best single season double-double streak since the NBA and ABA merged in 1976.
NATE'S PICK: ARRON AFFLALO
He's averaging career-highs in practically every statistical category. He's his team's best perimeter defender. With Carmelo Anthony still on board he became a fourth quarter assassin and his team has noticeably missed his presence of late. Not a player a lot of folks know, but he should be.
JEFF'S PICK: LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE
I don't think there's a single player in the NBA that has been more surprising than LMA. His season has quite literally come out of nowhere and considering the bevy of injuries that the Blazers seem to face on an annual basis, it's even more amazing. Aldridge went from a fairly passive power forward to a point scoring/rebounding machine. He richly deserves this award.
EXECUTIVE OF THE YEAR
ANDREW'S PICK: MASAI UJIRI
Again, this one's not really up for debate, is it? An award that should be shared with Josh Kroenke, Ujiri somehow, someway stood firm while always being positive simultaneously, and swung perhaps the greatest deal in NBA history for a superstar hand-picking his destination. Ujiri - a first year GM - was thrown into a seemingly impossible situation, and (again, along with Kroenke) yet he refused to take pennies on the dollar for the Nuggets lone superstar. With the Nuggets standing proudly at 18-6 "post-Melo", handing this award to Ujiri should be a no-brainer.
NATE'S PICK: MASAI UJIRI
Looks like a homer pick, but his newly assembled team is 18-6 and is being talked about as a title contender this season. The team enjoys playing together, is much less expensive, and Ujiri collected multiple up-and-coming assets (including draft picks). The trade took awhile, but it propelled the Nuggets team and re-energized the fan-base. I can't pick Pat Riley because LeBron James, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade were the ones who decided to play together years ago, and all Riley had to do was dump contracts.
JEFF'S PICK: MASAI UJIRI
Along with Josh Kroenke, Ujiri faced one of the toughest tasks in the NBA. Trading away your best player during the season and hoping to get something in return. Kroenke isn't eligible because he's technically an "owner", but he deserves this award too. I don't think there's any debate. That would give the Nuggets executive of the year honors two out of the last three years (Mark Warkentien won the award in 2009). Ujiri and Kroenke waited out the New York media and Billy King. They got James Dolan involved in trade talks and are on their way to proving that a certain Denver Stiffs writer can be too tough on people. Good job boys!
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Gallo as past worst rookie =
Take all of this with a grain of salt.
Yeah true
I’m looking at that and I’m wondering “wowwww”
Makes me think about getting Aminu on the cheap from the Other LA team. He may be raw, but he is on a relatively cheap rookie contract, and Aminu’s and Gallo’s combined length will frustrate the hell out of opposing offenses (and defenses)
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Sometimes I get this crazy dream, that I could just drive off in my car. But you can travel over ten thousand miles, and still stay where you are" - Harry Chapin
Good read
But the bile toward Melo is unbecoming.
It is true that the trade talk was a distraction that hurt the team and Melo’s performance. But he still played hard every night (save a few notable exceptions). And, unlike LeBron, Melo was much more forthright with his desire to play elsewhere which gave the team time to plan for a post-superstar era.
A lot is made out of the fact that he never directly asked for a trade in the media. I think this was a savvy move to minimize the disruption. I don’t think Melo can be faulted for the seven months of angst. It was up to the front office to make a trade, and they didn’t make one until they had a good one.
Bitch and moan about Melo wanting out all you want. He was a great Nugget and made the team relevant again. I don’t see the point in clinging on to this bitterness considering Denver got good value in return, something that often doesn’t happen when you trade a player of Melo’s caliber.
I’ll be rooting for Billups, AC, Sheldon Williams, Balkman and, yes, Melo and the rest of the Knicks, in the Eastern Conference Playoffs. Go Knicks!
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by Fly Agaric on Apr 12, 2011 12:35 PM MDT reply actions 3 recs
I'll root for the bulls in the eastern conference
billips should go there next year to play behind rose
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by CloudBurst on Apr 12, 2011 12:40 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Go Magic!
NBA Champons for 2010-11 season=Denver Thuggets
NotWorriedAboutNuggets and Army of Nugs for Co-Head Coaches in 2013!
by Army of Nugs on Apr 12, 2011 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions
bulls wanted chauncey THIS SEASON
they wanted him to start at shooting guard with rose. bulls needed a competent shooting guard all season. thibbs was ripped all season for not starting kyle kover. they were willing to give players and a 1st round pick.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
the smart thing is just to be smart- chauncey billups
we're on a mission from god
Oh. I'm definitely on the Bulls bandwagon
Great team. I’m a huge Rose and Noah fan. Not that keen on Boozer. Oh, and Deng is great.
But I not shy about pulling for a bunch of players I used to pull for.
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I'm rooting for the Knicks.
Imagine a Nuggets-Knicks Finals. CHAOS!!!
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
Orig.Thugget Loyalist #4, UNugg #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I do not
want the knicks to get past 1st round
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by NewEraNugg on Apr 12, 2011 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess I'm just rooting for our former players to have some success
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
Orig.Thugget Loyalist #4, UNugg #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
That finals would be horrible
You can only imagine the number of turnovers, since the two teams were just flip flopped?
by Joelsopinion on Apr 12, 2011 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions
me neither
Said it in another thread, will repeat here — I will be unhappy if the Knicks make it further in the playoffs than the Nugs.
"There's no way I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team' ... I was trying to beat those guys." -Michael Jordan
by ParkHillNative on Apr 12, 2011 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly
the entire NBA needs the Heat and the Knicks to flame out badly. Unfortuneately, the Heat will almost certainly make the second round because the eastern conference is terrible.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Apr 12, 2011 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Don't know
I do think Melo played it smart by not demanding a trade in the media. However, I think that reflected his desire to get a max contract. This, combined with New Jersey’s re-entry into the saga, helps us to maximize our return. Which was awesome!
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Apr 12, 2011 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm just going to leave a recommendation here.
Could not agree with you more
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
Orig.Thugget Loyalist #4, UNugg #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Why thank you.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Apr 12, 2011 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions
I think you are confused about whom I'm recommending. That recommendation is for Fly Agaric. Sorry
But it was a clever try
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
Orig.Thugget Loyalist #4, UNugg #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
This is the Stiffy Awards
What else would you expect other than vitriol?
by Artimus Mangilord on Apr 12, 2011 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions
"Save a few notable exceptions"
which is likely why we are #5 instead of a higher seed.
Remember the season opener win against the Jazz followed by his locker room “if I don’t leave now, I never will” quote. That set the tone for the season that would have had the Nuggets fighting to even be in the playoffs at all had he stayed here. That took the wind right out of the team.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
by margabelle on Apr 12, 2011 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
The only problem that I have with Melo
Is he didn’t want to be a Nugget. He wanted to be a Knick. And that surely had a large impact on the team.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
The problem I have with Melo
Is he wanted to be a Knick, not because he liked the Knicks, but because he wanted the attention. In addition he wanted his $$$$$$. Without his cooperation, the Nuggets would have had no chance to get as much as they did from the Knicks. While he gets to play where he wants to play, he has set back the organization he now plays for how many years from being able to compete for a championship? To me that proves he is all about the fame and the money, and not about winning.
smello does not get any more credit than antonio mcdyess gets for nene and marcus camby
face facts the knicks got scammed both times by denver. the bulls said no way to give up rose or noah. the chicago media and fans all agreed that only deng for smello straight up would be worth it. knicks are right back in salary cap hell for the next 5 years. when smello’s career is done they will be calling it a worse deal than eddy curry.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
the smart thing is just to be smart- chauncey billups
we're on a mission from god
AAA was Nate's homer pick to make up for picking Thibodeau for Coach of the Year
Good read, harsh, but good. I find it very funny that Gallo was a former worst rookie of the year and now we all LOVE him.
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by NotWorriedAboutNuggets on Apr 12, 2011 1:01 PM MDT reply actions
Gallo really has improved his play and I believe he suffered a back injury his rookie year that really REALLY limited him.
AAA was a homer pick for sure, but the guy really went from being a role player to a guy that the team can depend on. LMA should have been putting up the numbers he is now last year, but he’s finally realized he needs to play inside and he should get the award. Good pick by Jeff.
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by Nate Timmons on Apr 12, 2011 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions
it is kinda weird that
LMA is getting no love from the media,.
i know love set records, but lma was by far and away a more complete player, and he played to win (and won game), while it seemed like love played to set records. And didnt win games. It snice to grab 15 a game but if it doesnt help your team win it shouldnt be looked at as well as LMA’s improvments.
Would LMA have been so improved if it wasn't required of him.
If Roy would have stayed healthy all year LMA would have continued playing the same game and wouldn’t even be in the conversation IMO. I suppose this doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be included in the consideration of Most Improved or the biggest All Star snub this year.
-Save the New Nuggets, re-sign everyone.
-Gallinari fan socio del club dal 2011
by NotWorriedAboutNuggets on Apr 12, 2011 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Okay I feel stupid, but who is LMA?
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
Orig.Thugget Loyalist #4, UNugg #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Wow you are stupid.
JK LaMarcus Aldridge
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
Thanks
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
Orig.Thugget Loyalist #4, UNugg #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
It's LaMarcus Aldridge
"There's no way I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team' ... I was trying to beat those guys." -Michael Jordan
by ParkHillNative on Apr 12, 2011 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Sure
Whenever you need an insult, just set me up.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
LaMarcus Aldridge
I don’t think you’re stupid. But maybe you are a baseball fan?
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Apr 12, 2011 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah that was necessary
"I think I speak for everyone in here when I say it's playoffs or bust"- J. Hammel
Toddfather, Tulo, CarGo plus The Answer - Rox 2011 NL West Crown
Orig.Thugget Loyalist #4, UNugg #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I can't see GK getting COTY
Awarding Karl would be an acknowledgement that the Melodrama (and similarly, The Decision) was bad for basketball if overcoming that is a major reason he got COTY – there’s just no way Stern could allow for that perception.
by Artimus Mangilord on Apr 12, 2011 1:07 PM MDT reply actions
Good conspiracy theory
Karl was essentially doing nothing the during the PMT period. He was playing Billups too many minutes, and virtually non-existant during games. The only way he could have done less is if he had not been at the games at all, and that may have been an improvement for the team, based upon his terrible in game behavior. I don’t think he held the team together at all, and they had completely collapsed in the games leading up to the ASG.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Apr 12, 2011 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions
My point is the league wouldn't want to acknowledge
coming out of the Melodrama ahead as ovecoming adversity.
They could just give it to Karl for overcoming cancer as a feel good story, but I think Tom T. will get it.
by Artimus Mangilord on Apr 12, 2011 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions
coaching is more than the 48 min on the court
dealing w/ people, HR issues, management, etc. is a royal pain. The PMT period with the team I expect would have been exhausting for everyone including and especially for GK. I agree that he shouldn’t get it for coaching good games to your point, but I would argue that the bulk of his work was off the court and people management.
Interesting picks...
I’m done even mentioning Carmelo who?… “Nuggets vice president of basketball operations Masai Ujiri may be tired of the Nuggets vs. Knicks post-”the trade" comparison, but it sure doesn’t get old here." I strongly disagree; it’s past old and we need to move on. I wish Billups good luck in the playoffs because he was the victim of the trade and he deserves our consideration. But I’m not a Knicks fan and don’t wish them well.
The rest of the article was a good read and it’s interesting that Nate, Andrew and Jeff agree in most instances. I’m especially pleased to see Nate choose AAA as Most Improved Player. Nuggets fans can certainly agree with this pick. The Masai Ujiri pick for Exec of the Year is a no brainer. He, along with “owner” Josh Kroenke made the trade happen that truly has changed the face of this Nuggets team. This award should go to Masai.
I'm surprised no one selected JR as the most improved.
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Seriously why isn't JR the most improved?
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I don't know anybody else's rationale
but I wouldn’t choose him for that award because he still makes boneheaded plays and still isn’t realizing the full potential of his rather incredible gifts.
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by ParkHillNative on Apr 12, 2011 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions
I just remember how for most of the season we were all
remarking that he’s had the best season ever…so that to me was a big improvement over last season. AAA is doing what AAA do and better. I guess I just expected AAA to become what he has, so to me it’s no big surprise.
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I think its because of looking only at the present
JR seems to be having a great year because he had such a terrible one last year. Statistically he’s actually playing a little bit worse than he did in 08/09 so it’s hard to call him the most improved. Though I do fully support the argument that this has been JR’s best year as far as maturity, playing within the team and overall awareness.
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This was a good read for me as well because we didn’t discuss these picks so it’s fun to see who Jeff and Andrew picked along with where we were seeing eye-to-eye. Good stuff!
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Who is who
If Andrew, Nate, and Jpage are our supreme court, which justices are they?
I’m going to say Andrew is our Clarence Thomas because he posts the least frequently, while Thomas famously never speaks in court.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Apr 12, 2011 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions
I hope these awards are a sign...
…that we will stop bashing discussing Melo (or at least slow down.) The guy saved professional basketball in Denver and exercised his right to free agency in about the only way he could. Besides staying in Denver, I can’t really think of a way he could have exercised his free agency that would have appeased anyone on this site. If anything, Melo screwed the Knicks by letting them give away everything for him.
As well, Chauncey had a TERRIBLE second half and playoffs last year and was having a sloppy and lazy year this year. Combine that with the fact that we now have two, all-star caliber point guards, and I have to wonder if folks are letting nostalgia and a very nice fellow cloud their judgment about what is best for the team. Trading Chauncey was the best part of the trade considering what it did for Lawson and for the rotation.
Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
Neither side honors their end of contracts in the NBA
Or, at least, not frequently.
Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.
by Big Mickey D on Apr 12, 2011 4:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Um
There is really no way not to honor a contract you give a player in the NBA. If a player is under a guaranteed contract (which 95% of players are) and you are unhappy with him you have three options:Trade him so someone else will pay the contract, buy him out and pay him now, or wait out the end of the contract. Not sure where you get the both sides don’t honor contracts argument
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I meant to write:
“…to the end…” like NewEraNugg. Of course contracts are honored by BOTH sides or the NBA would have a courtroom for every arena. What I meant was that it is very rare that contracts are completed without trades, early extensions or other mitigation like “Bird” exemptions. I was (badly) pointing out that, technically, wanting Melo to honor his contract “to the end” would have meant that he’d still be a Knick next year but instead of us having Chandler, Gallo, Felton, Mozgov and Koufus, we’d have Chauncey and cap space. I doubt that is what NewEraNugg was trying to convey.
To your point, Melo and LaBoring both honored their contracts but in MUCH different ways. Technically everyone either honors their contract or retires. I certainly understand that.
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by Big Mickey D on Apr 12, 2011 5:26 PM MDT up reply actions
melo is not the savior of the nuggets basketball. the existance of the nuggets organization never hinged on melo.
hes not jesus. but hes got the judas role covered pretty well though.
by calvin brodus on Apr 12, 2011 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Kind of a fun post of video clips posted at the fan to go with the current stiff list #1 item
Comparing last night’s NBA fight involving Villanueva to a real NBA fight in the 80s between Laimbeer, Mahorn, Barkley and our very own Scott Hastings.
http://www.1043thefan.com/channels/MikeEvansScottHastings/Story.aspx?ID=1400986
Funny that Hastings and Barkley are now buddies. Don’t know that I’d forgive a grown man trying to sucker punch me.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
Great clip, Margabelle
Unprovoked sucker punch from Isiah Thomas to start things up. Another example in a long list – Thomas is a chump. I love how Mahorn regarded him like a pesky housefly.
by Artimus Mangilord on Apr 12, 2011 2:51 PM MDT up reply actions
holy shit do I ever hate Laimbeer
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by ParkHillNative on Apr 13, 2011 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions
good video
after watching Isaiah hit mahorn now i know where melo learned to punch.
fire george karl
by Over-and-back on Apr 13, 2011 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions
LMAO!
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by love4nuggets on Apr 14, 2011 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions
WTF plays
i think AK/Kmart should be #1 considering the game situation, but it looks like rudy is running away with it, with LBJs putback at #2
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/4/11/2104458/nba-wtf-play-award
I agree
Big baby getting stuffed by the rim was pretty funny too, but like you said, considering the game situation the K mart play was BY FAR the most WTF play I’ve seen in years
I gotta go with LBJ and the TWolves
cause that was just a failure all the way around. Kmart just had a brainfart of his own accord.
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that would be my 2nd choice for sure
but the fact that AK missed the layup to end the game was just sooooo WTF
I would have HATED to be a jazz fan after that ( or any time really )
I think that is forgiveable...players miss easy shots all the time
But for no player on the floor to realize the foul situation is just plain WTF?
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That was a fun link
Thanks.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
These Lala is Yoko comments must end
because that is insinuating that Melo is comparative to John Lennon…which is blasphemous.
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
Who is this guy that looks like John Corbett?
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Imagine
I wish I could implement that song.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Apr 12, 2011 4:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Imagine all the people
scoring points for the Nuggets…
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
Ujiri for MVE
Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
Like I don't know who John Lennon is....FFS
But seriously how much does John Corbett look like John Lennon…in fact he should play him in a movie or something.
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Hmmm
I think you just like John Corbett
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
It's a striking resemblance don't you think
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Anyone can look like John Lennon with round sunglasses
But Corbett is too Hollywood dreamy. John Lennon was hardly a sex symbol after he went hippie.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
That's not true.
He has a similar nose and similarly shaped face already. If you plop those glasses on him, it’s a match
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I do like John Corbett but he looks like John Lennon
if a little more handsome.
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My Picks
MVP- Derrick Rose, hands down wins it. Rose single handedly (for most of the season at least) carried the bulls to the best record in the league. He’s an absolute game changer and can do virtually anything he wants on the court.
Coach of the Year- George Karl. Not a homer pick at all and I am not really understanding why George isn’t a lock for this. Yes Thibs coached a Bulls team that will have the best record and was missing their two starting post players for the majority of the season. Doesn’t matter, his team is still incredibly deep and still has the MVP and above all was still able to focus on basketball the whole season. Try leading a team to fifty wins when your best player demands out, you are the only liason to the media while this exodus is ongoing and then lead a team of largely new players to an even better record…on the fly, oh and did I mention he just recovered from cancer? C’mon people Karl should have it in the bag
Rookie of the Year- Griffin, moving on.
6th Man of the Year- I’d really like to pick someone who is not a Laker, but the 6th men just weren’t that great this year. Oh I could make a half-hearted argument for Thaddeus Young but it just wouldn’t stand up to Lamar Odom’s body of work so begrudgingly he gets my vote.
Most Improved Player- Kevin Love. Again another one that should be a no brainer. The only argument even close to Love would be Aldridge. Don’t let Golden State fans hear that though…Dorrell Wright over Kevin Love…. please, sure he went from being a bench player on a crappy Miami team to starting on the chuck happy warriors but he improved his scoring by 9pts!…No one seems to want to mention he also increased his turnovers and personal fouls while also shooting a worse percentage. No, Love gets this one because unlike Aldridge he literally has no one else to take the focus off of him and he still managed to be dominant.
Executive of the Year: SPOILER ALERT- I’m going to be hated for this. Pat Riley. Shoo-in. Yes I get the fact that even I could have taken over the Heat anytime post Bejing Olympics and probably ended up with the same squad this year, but fact remains that Riley landed Lebron James and Chris Bosh and then hoodwinked a bunch of guys into taking less money to play with these guys under promises that the NBA had already agreed to award them a championship. Plus, he was smart enough to politely decline Penny Hardaway’s shameless self promotion so bonus points for that.
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by Zachm219 on Apr 12, 2011 4:29 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Pat Riley shouldn't get Exec of the Year for the same reason Karl won't get COTY
Because it acknowledges ‘how the sausage is made’ in the NBA today
by Artimus Mangilord on Apr 12, 2011 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions
See I agree but i think one size fits all doesn't work in this case
I feel like Riley will win because the Heat are the good side of the story and Karl won’t when because the Nuggets are the bad side of the story
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Love the Stiffy Awards
Good read as always Andy. Here is my take:
Seems like these were more the “Andrew Stiffy Awards” than anything. You’ve long professed your disdain for both Lebron James and Byron Scott on this blog, but yet still can’t acknowledge the fact that Lebron really is that good as evidence by this quote:
I can now admit it: In Cleveland LeBron was better and his surrounding cast was worse than I originally thought. But his surrounding cast wasn’t this bad.
Andy, it was, and is “this bad.” Lebron is, and was, that good. Though you may not like him, you can’t let that blind your evaluation of the man as a player, and must sometime recognize how good he really is. Byron Scott did with that team what anybody else likely would have. Sure, maybe Grep Popovich might have led them to a few more wins, but they still weren’t going to hoist the Larry O’Brien Trophy at the end of the year. I agree Scott is an overrated coach, but what about Kurt Rambis? That guy had WAY more talent than Scott did and yet he’s sitting on a worse record. How do you explain that? What about Jay Triano in Toronto, where again the talent was head over heels better than in Cleveland? You’re talking about Barbosa, Bargnani, Bayless, Calderon, Ed Davis, DeRozan, Reggie Evans, Amir Johnson, Sonny Weems and Linas Kleiza, and you only managed four more wins than the Cavs who’s best player this season was a fat Baron Davis? Again, it seems like it comes back to you wanting to prove that Lebron somehow had a great team around him, when in fact all the numbers and stats point in the opposite direction. That’s just my take, but feel free to counter.
Worst Exec I’d give to Ainge. What he did trading away Perkins was suicide, complete and utter franchise suicide. They had the perfect roster, that took years to assemble and just like that he goes ahead and destroys everything. One of the worst moves I have ever seen.
Worst rookie has got to go to Evan Turner. Dude was gonna be the next D-Wade remember? Man he sucked this year. Funny to see Gallo up there. We would criticize the sh*t out of him when he was on the Knicks but boy do we love him now!
Non-Stiffy Awards…
Man Andy, I swear, you’d vote for George Karl every year if you had the chance. He’s certainly in the discussion, but my problem is: how can we give him credit for “weathering the storm” when Melo was here? Who’s to say somebody else wouldn’t have been able to get much more out of that squad? The talent level there was capable of winning close to 60 games and yet we found ourselves on pace for 45. I just don’t see how you can give Karl credit for coaching a team that talented — even with the problems — to such a mediocre record. What I will give him tons of credit for is what he’s done since the trade; that alone merits him some CoY consideration. But again, look at what guys like Thib and Pop did. They had their team playing the most outstanding ball on each end of the floor night after night for 82 GAMES!!! Thib especially though, that guy had injuries up the ass and there’s no way in hell he should have finished with that great of a record, but he did. Karl gets a nod, but no WAY he should win over Thib. No way.
Agreed on most everything else especially with Jeff about Aldridge.
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 4:48 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Totally should win over Thib
See my argument above yours as to why.
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Eh...
Haha, not bad. You make some pretty good points. But again, do we really give CoY to someone for dealing with problems brought on by a player? Is that really what, at it’s essence, coaching is all about?
Maybe. It would certainly be a crowning achievement. But I still like the total transformation Thib brought on to Chicago, where they went from 41 wins to 61, which is a HUGE jump in NBA terms, and became the best defensive team in the league along the way. Yes, they have Rose who’s been a total, 100% MVP, but they had no other All-Stars outside of him, and their next best players even missed a ridiculous amount of games on top of that. You gonna really tell me that a starting five of Rose, Bogans, Deng, Boozer and Gibson; or Rose, Bogans, Deng, Kurt Thomas and Noah are either ones that should be winning 60 games? I mean, the bench is definitely good, but it’s nothing outstanding. I just view 60 wins as a pretty damn hard thing to do in the NBA, and I don’t think people are taking that into account enough here.
Again, just my opinion. You’ve probably made the best case for Karl I’ve heard yet, and honestly, yeah I’m kind of rooting for him to win it just because I do think he’s done a great job. But being objective, Thib has done one hell of a job as well and it would be pretty tough not seeing him get it either as he’s done an outstanding job for a first-time coach in the NBA.
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions
The genius (I use the term lightly) on 102.3 this morning was saying the Bulls had no injuries.
So Rose shouldn’t win it. I almost spit out my coffee and crashed my car. I think Boozer and Noah each missed at least 30. He was talking about Deng like he was the second coming but fucked if I can name anyone else on their team. Rose and Tibs all the way.
Also, Tibs for Boston’s let down this season. Still in the Doc Rivers is a moron camp.
Are you blogging or acting as a journalist?
I won’t judge any rook since Gallo won the other year, CB was traded 6 times and still turned out ok but FFS Byron Scott is still better than a couple of scrubs as GN says. Rambis has an All-Star, granted he doesn’t play D and they suck way worse than the Cavs. I hate LeBron but I’ve screamed and yelled that the team around him was horrible and this is what you get without him. Given that I thought Scott did fairly well. I’d argue that Hickson is their best player and he might start on other teams but no one else in their lineup.
Blogging or acting as a journalist?
I’m just giving my honest opinion about the Stiffy Awards and trying to be objective about who rightfully deserves them as always. I’m definitely less formal though when commenting though.
Hyperboles kill.
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 7:38 PM MDT up reply actions
ainge
mad a caluclated move for the future. He saw he wouldnt need size to get through the east, and gave his franchise a young baller to use for the future.
this is bostons last hurrah with KF, ALlen, pierce, and Rivers. he needed to place his franshise in a better spot for the future. IF Shaq can play decent mins they should be fine in the east (cant get by LA though).
Zarren talked about this at MIT
Basically said his owners gave the FO a mandate to win and win now. They made the trade with the intention that it would make them a better team – this year. Part of the evidence they had was how they played earlier in the year without Perk. They were one of the top teams in the league to start the year.
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suns
He did lost a game against Kobe, But still he has a better education.
To be fair to Melo
LeBron really was much more of a douche with his departure.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
Nope. Don't agree.
LeBron screwed it up and wanted everyone to bow down to him but he didn’t tank a season. Melo did, even the guys saying he didn’t tank the whole season agree he tanked a couple of games. In my mind that’s unacceptable.
Wait, LeBron never tanked a season?
Did you not watch the last three games of the ECF last year?
Attempted murder? Now honestly, what is that? Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?
by jcd823 on Apr 12, 2011 7:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
So he can't have off games?
He had shit games but how hard is it when you can focus on him and there is no one else.
There's having off games
Then there is being a no show when your team needs you. i.e. refusing to drive the ball on key possesions. We’ve all seen a large number of this guy’s games to tell when he’s having an off shooting night. He’s a scorer and the volume of shots he was attempting (IMO) wasn’t indicative of him trying to shoot his way out of a slump, or lead his team to a series win.
by Joelsopinion on Apr 13, 2011 8:28 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm not saying that Melo didn't play hard in some games but the off the court stuff was created by him.
His camp represents him so if you want to blame WW Wes that’s fine but they work for Melo. If you want to argue we won’t agree. I was in the screw the Knicks and Melo bandwagon from the beginning after the trade. i don’t care anymore but don’t act like Melo wasn’t a scrub ass teammate saying things like NY has a future and dragging the Nugs through the mud.
I think we're on the same page
Lebron was THE first time guy to pull what he did. Nobody else did it before him, because nobody else even had the slightest amount of hype/coverage he did. I’m sure that there would be many guys who probably would have done the same thing given a similar circumstance. At least Lebron did what was best for him though. We all rag on him for it, but every damn person in this comment section would do the exact same thing if offered the chance to do something great in their profession. If ESPN called Andy today and said, “Hey you wanna come work for us, and have your stuff featured on the front page of the website?” you’re damn well right he’d take that opportunity, and he’d be stupid not to. It’s just like that scene in Goodwill Hunting when they’re at the brickyard and Will starts taking about how being a bricklayer is honorable and he loves being in Boston and around his friends, even though he knows he’s got a gift people would die to have, then Ben Affleck turns to him and says, “Look – you’re my best friend, so don’t take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you’re still livin’ here, comin’ over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin’ construction, I’ll fuckin’ kill you. That’s not a threat; now, that’s a fact. I’ll fuckin’ kill you.”
Same.. exact.. thing with Lebron. The man has a gift the NBA has never ever seen, and perhaps might never see again, and people expect him to kick shit around his entire life Cleveland listening to Pink Floyd’s “Time” just because it’s “honorable?” Fuck that. Do something special with your life, and don’t ever fucking look back, because when at the end of the day you’re holding up 4-5 championship rings and in the conversation for the greatest next to Michael, all those sorry little trivial haters won’t have shit to do but suck on their thumbs till the skin gets callused and pale.
Same.. exact.. thing with Lebron. The man has a gift the NBA has never ever seen, and perhaps might never see again, and people expect him to kick shit around his entire life Cleveland listening to Pink Floyd’s “Time” just because it’s “honorable?” Fuck that. Do something special with your life, and don’t ever fucking look back, because when at the end of the day you’re holding up 4-5 championship rings and in the conversation for the greatest next to Michael, all those sorry little trivial haters won’t have shit to do but suck on their thumbs till the skin gets callused and pale.No, the real coward in all this is Carmelo Anthony. Lebron may have an ego (Who wouldn’t if you were Lebron James? Seriously, put yourself in his shoes and sit there and tell me you’d be the most humble person alive.) but it’s not moral justifiable to hold a man solely accountable for a one-hour long special that (A) was simply an announcement of where he’d play basketball next — nothing more (Seriously people get the hell over it. Quit acting like children, who found out the Easter Bunny wasn’t real.) - and (B) was a mistake, then judge him for the rest of his life because of this one action in which he was young, naive and advised by evil people who he thought were his friends at the time but were really only out for the money on. I’m just sick of it. I hear Michelle Beadle put ever damn day about how much she hates Lebron on SN, and it’s just infantile, it really is. Hosting a one hour special to announce where you’re going to move is only something that would draw hatred from a race as fickle as ours. "Oh, but you don’t understand, you just don’t understand how -" No. Shut up. I understand exactly what the hell happened. There’s nothing to understand about it. Move on already!
Same.. exact.. thing with Lebron. The man has a gift the NBA has never ever seen, and perhaps might never see again, and people expect him to kick shit around his entire life Cleveland listening to Pink Floyd’s “Time” just because it’s “honorable?” Fuck that. Do something special with your life, and don’t ever fucking look back, because when at the end of the day you’re holding up 4-5 championship rings and in the conversation for the greatest next to Michael, all those sorry little trivial haters won’t have shit to do but suck on their thumbs till the skin gets callused and pale.No, the real coward in all this is Carmelo Anthony. Lebron may have an ego (Who wouldn’t if you were Lebron James? Seriously, put yourself in his shoes and sit there and tell me you’d be the most humble person alive.) but it’s not moral justifiable to hold a man solely accountable for a one-hour long special that (A) was simply an announcement of where he’d play basketball next — nothing more (Seriously people get the hell over it. Quit acting like children, who found out the Easter Bunny wasn’t real.) - and (B) was a mistake, then judge him for the rest of his life because of this one action in which he was young, naive and advised by evil people who he thought were his friends at the time but were really only out for the money on. I’m just sick of it. I hear Michelle Beadle put ever damn day about how much she hates Lebron on SN, and it’s just infantile, it really is. Hosting a one hour special to announce where you’re going to move is only something that would draw hatred from a race as fickle as ours. "Oh, but you don’t understand, you just don’t understand how -" No. Shut up. I understand exactly what the hell happened. There’s nothing to understand about it. Move on already!Why I think what Melo did was worse was (A) because his team was FAR better than Lebron’s ever even came close to being, (B) the Nuggets had consistently year-in and year-out shown it’s commitment to winning (see: Allen Iverson, Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson, Kenyon Martin, JR Smith, Al Harrington, Arron Afflalo, etc.), © he DEMANDED a trade with two years left on his contract (two because he would have taken that option either way), (D) he DEMANDED a trade to New York of all places where there hadn’t been a winning season in a decade, thus proving his desire was simply to leave Denver more than anything, (E) he openly invited a cheers at his wedding with Nuggets players/personnel in attendance between CP3, himself and Amare as to them meeting up on day and forming their own “Big Three” while still currently under contract with the Nuggets (Why the hell wasn’t this a as big of a story as “The Decision?” Seems pretty disrespectful to me, and that’s what people’s gripe is with Lebron), (F) he snuck around for seven months not saying a word about the trade and brushing it off like everything was so damn hunky dorey when asked by the Denver Media about what was going on, then a minute later went and told the saint himself, World Wide Wes, whatever the hell he wanted to say about the trade, which was a sad and desperate attempt to “protect his image” and make him look like some kind of victim — pathetic, (G) he dragged other teammates, including one of the most humble, respected guys to ever play the game of ball and one of the most beloved Denver natives of all time with him to his big city (H) but finally, it was his “follow the leader, if he’s having it then I have to have it!!!!,” crybaby attempt to emulating what Lebron James did — which was bona fide trailblazing, like a real man, through uncharted waters and taking all the heat for it (no pun intended). That’s what, if anything, lowers my respect for Melo far more than Lebron. I don’t like followers, and I don’t like people that hide behind other people when they know they’re wrong, and I don’t like people that aren’t honest. Yeah, Lebron James messed up, but at least he took the heat like a man and backed HIMSELF up time, after time, after time when all the haters came bombarding like a storm full of acid rain. You know where Melo was when this happened? Hiding behind some fake-ass agent with his tail between his legs.
Same.. exact.. thing with Lebron. The man has a gift the NBA has never ever seen, and perhaps might never see again, and people expect him to kick shit around his entire life Cleveland listening to Pink Floyd’s “Time” just because it’s “honorable?” Fuck that. Do something special with your life, and don’t ever fucking look back, because when at the end of the day you’re holding up 4-5 championship rings and in the conversation for the greatest next to Michael, all those sorry little trivial haters won’t have shit to do but suck on their thumbs till the skin gets callused and pale.No, the real coward in all this is Carmelo Anthony. Lebron may have an ego (Who wouldn’t if you were Lebron James? Seriously, put yourself in his shoes and sit there and tell me you’d be the most humble person alive.) but it’s not moral justifiable to hold a man solely accountable for a one-hour long special that (A) was simply an announcement of where he’d play basketball next — nothing more (Seriously people get the hell over it. Quit acting like children, who found out the Easter Bunny wasn’t real.) - and (B) was a mistake, then judge him for the rest of his life because of this one action in which he was young, naive and advised by evil people who he thought were his friends at the time but were really only out for the money on. I’m just sick of it. I hear Michelle Beadle put ever damn day about how much she hates Lebron on SN, and it’s just infantile, it really is. Hosting a one hour special to announce where you’re going to move is only something that would draw hatred from a race as fickle as ours. "Oh, but you don’t understand, you just don’t understand how -" No. Shut up. I understand exactly what the hell happened. There’s nothing to understand about it. Move on already!Why I think what Melo did was worse was (A) because his team was FAR better than Lebron’s ever even came close to being, (B) the Nuggets had consistently year-in and year-out shown it’s commitment to winning (see: Allen Iverson, Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson, Kenyon Martin, JR Smith, Al Harrington, Arron Afflalo, etc.), © he DEMANDED a trade with two years left on his contract (two because he would have taken that option either way), (D) he DEMANDED a trade to New York of all places where there hadn’t been a winning season in a decade, thus proving his desire was simply to leave Denver more than anything, (E) he openly invited a cheers at his wedding with Nuggets players/personnel in attendance between CP3, himself and Amare as to them meeting up on day and forming their own “Big Three” while still currently under contract with the Nuggets (Why the hell wasn’t this a as big of a story as “The Decision?” Seems pretty disrespectful to me, and that’s what people’s gripe is with Lebron), (F) he snuck around for seven months not saying a word about the trade and brushing it off like everything was so damn hunky dorey when asked by the Denver Media about what was going on, then a minute later went and told the saint himself, World Wide Wes, whatever the hell he wanted to say about the trade, which was a sad and desperate attempt to “protect his image” and make him look like some kind of victim — pathetic, (G) he dragged other teammates, including one of the most humble, respected guys to ever play the game of ball and one of the most beloved Denver natives of all time with him to his big city (H) but finally, it was his “follow the leader, if he’s having it then I have to have it!!!!,” crybaby attempt to emulating what Lebron James did — which was bona fide trailblazing, like a real man, through uncharted waters and taking all the heat for it (no pun intended). That’s what, if anything, lowers my respect for Melo far more than Lebron. I don’t like followers, and I don’t like people that hide behind other people when they know they’re wrong, and I don’t like people that aren’t honest. Yeah, Lebron James messed up, but at least he took the heat like a man and backed HIMSELF up time, after time, after time when all the haters came bombarding like a storm full of acid rain. You know where Melo was when this happened? Hiding behind some fake-ass agent with his tail between his legs.In Forrest Gump’s words: That’s all I got to say about that.
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 8:35 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
Haha, well...
I don’t know what the hell happened to that post. Looks like it was too long or something so a lot of stuff got squeezed together with black lines and such. At least I got it all out. Feels better now. :)
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 8:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I am not reading this, GN
two sentence summary please.
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
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GALLO!!!
LMAO
I feel like an idiot. Would have been a good read I feel if all those errors weren’t in it. I don’t know what happened because I went back and read it again, but when I hit post suddenly shit just got crazy! It was virtual sports therapy more than anything and I needed it. Nobody I know is into sports like I am, especially the Nuggets, so you guys are unfortunately the victims of my opinion at times. Two sentences? How about one? Lebron isn’t as bad as Melo. — There you have it.
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm going to rec that comment, just for the hell of it
It's Timofey MOZGOD time
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Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
Thanks man!
Makes me feel better, haha.
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 8:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Just remember
that soon it’s Friday, Friday
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Karl for COY
GALLO!!!
i'll put a wager down
on nobody you know being into sports like you are
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Boy, that was like reading Moby Dick in high school
I paid attention for the beginning of it, but then it was like reading words without it registering on my hard drive.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
I'll rec it too since I rec'ed diyoung's insane repititive ramblings from a couple of days ago.
Gotta stay consistent.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
You had to read Dick in High School?
What high school you go to? I can’t believe that, but understand what you’re saying.
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions
In which high school don't you have to read dick?
it’s plastered all over the bathroom walls…
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hahahahahahahaha
yes!
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Oooohh, well played
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 10:33 PM MDT up reply actions
THANK YOU
I mean, I’m not trying to defend Melo entirely. Some of the things he said sucked and I definitely don’t condone his actions in some games, like his pre-NYC game “injury”. That’s pretty terrible. No one can gloss over that.
I just think it is petty and small to be acting like a bride left at the alter now almost two months after the fact. I’m tempted to rant about the spiritual healing power of forgiveness and a bunch of other metaphysical hippie-dippy bullshit, but I’ll save that for another time.
I just think there are better ways for Nuggets fans to direct their energy than being bitter about Melo. He’s gone and the Nuggets are better off for it.
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by InboundingLobPass on Apr 12, 2011 8:49 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
so if the Lakers win tonight, then its going to be the Thunder we will play?
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Unless NO beats Dallas and OKC wins out
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
That Portland Memphis game tonight is pretty big for the 6-8 seeds.
Might just have to firstrow.net that one.
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Nicee
My picks:
COY= Tom Thibs… 60 wins in your first year? Come on. GK deserves this but he won’t get it.
ROY= Blake duh
DPOY= AAA dude is the best perimeter defender in the league
MVP: Derrick Rose… this isn’t even close
Exec…. Ujiri
MIPOY= Kevin Love… he was good last year but this year he’s incredible.
6th man= Odom… not really a debate on this one
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The LaMarcus Aldridge arguments have swayed me for MIPOY
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LMA is great
but Kevin Love is a lot better. The due tied or set an NBA record fr double double this year didn’t he?
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions
With how bad the T-Wolves are
I wonder if Love’s stats were like Camby stats, where Camby kind of expected teammates to let him clear the easy rebounds, like off of missed FTs.
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that is true
but honetsly a lot ofhis rebounds were offensive and put backs
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say Love is a stat padder like Camby
Kevin Love is in a front court with a guy named Darko, so you are bound to get more than your fair share of rebounds. Not to mention that I don’t understand the stat paddder argument, Kevin Love is like what, 6’8, has a minimal amount of hops? If you can go get 15 rebounds a game just to pad your own stats, you have to have a great ability at rebounding somehow.
That is sort of like saying, if James Posey wanted to average 30 points a game, he would but only to pad his own stats. Anyway you slice it, 15 rebounds a game is very impressive, once the T-Wolves get a guard who can ball, and then get a adequate bench (their bench was turrible this year) they will be where Memphis is right now.
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So you got
LMA or Love for most improved?
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions
I would say Aldrige
Look, when you got Greg Oden who everyone knows when he is healthy is a lock for 10 rebounds, 12 points, then have Przbella the vanilla gorilla gone, then Marcus Camby, who has missed a lot of games this year, not to mention the fact that Roy was injured a good portion of the year, and then turn into the player he has turned into, and WILL his team to the playoffs with a decent but a not so amazing team of players on your back, that is more impressive than Kevin Love, I still think it will be a close one, but Aldridge gets the nod, if the T-Wolves won 30-35 games this year I would give it to K-Love though.
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fair enough
I didn’t think abou his impact on Portland and everything you just mentioned… well done
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions
So Bynum hurt himself apparently
well all of a sudden LA falling to the 4 looks tempting…also skitthebert just posted that above…sonuvabitch!!
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How bad?
A tweak or a season-ender?
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We beat LA when they had Bynum
Hope he’s OK. He’s too young to have f’ed up knees.
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hes already had so much damage on his knees
he will be just like Shaq for the rest of his career, he will play 50-60 games a year at best then take a break for a good part of the year, only thing is, Bynum is shaq-lite.
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I'd say wait til the MRI
obviously but that big of a man puting that much force on a sergically repaird knee and it bending like that… I’d say ut oh. To put it in perspective I actually blew out my left knee 4 years ago when I was 16 in hockey. This last sunday I was tripped into the boards going feet first and the blade of my left skate (sergically repaired 4 years ago) hit the boards funny and i hyper extended my knee. but it hyperextended and also bent left. I haven;t been able to walk on it without a brace and an incredibly painful limp for 3 days now. I don’t think I tore anything cuz I didn’t hear it pop but god dang it hurts. Looking at that video he either tore something or will be in pain for a while.
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
When I tore my ACL, I never heard the mythical "pop."
Get it checked out, especially if it’s a knee you’ve had surgically repaired before
I'm gonna try to
play in our game Thursday and see how it goes… if I can’t then I will prob get it checked out… I didn’t blow out my ACL in my left knee just the PCL and my meniscus was all jacked up. This is def a different pain tho. The last time it was more of an aggrivating/annoying pain… this time it flat out hurts
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions
also
there is a pop sometime.. my cousin blew his ACL out on a bench when he got tackled into in a HS football game.. I was in the bleachers and the pop is loud. It was disgusting… I knew it was his kneww because he wasn’t tackled into teh bench he was pushed into it so no pads collided just his knee and the bench.
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions
wow
that was pretty hard to read my bad… basically he was pushed into the bench so no pads touched therefor leading me to believe that pop i heard was every lig in his knee snapping. Those ligs are pretty tight.
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Hehe...no worries.
I got the gist of what you were saying. Mine was ACL, MCL, and meniscus. No pop, but close to the worst pain I’ve ever felt. I also went for about a week before I had it checked out. That turned out to be fine, because they wanted to wait until the swelling went down before doing an MRI. So, my stupidity turned out all right.
see mines
not that swollen anymore so i don’t think I did anything too bad… hopefully just twisted her a bit.. The only thing that scares me is it gave out on me in the shower last night and twice on campus today
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions
haha i know
I need my knees.. I already lost some teeth and my damn back! Thanks for the advice tho! Anyways Bynums injury looked bad in my opinion.
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions
The royalty check is in the mail right?
For the naming rights to these awards. ;)
(But Andy, I’ll settle for a beer at Jakes)
Oh, and you guys write for the Nuggets blog? You don’t say!
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WORST ROOKIE OF THE YEAR: DANILO GALLINARI
It’s never advisable to spend the sixth overall pick in the NBA Draft just because your coach formerly played with the player’s dad…especially when you passed on Brook Lopez and Eric Gordon. But in fairness to Gallinari and the Knicks’ brass who drafted him, the jury is still out (of course that’s what the Nuggets said about Nikoloz Tskitishvili for about three years).
Runner Up: Robin Lopez (the last time Shaquille O’Neal played with a stiff rookie – Mark Madsen – he bought him a new car…all Lopez got from O’Neal was a public berating).
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Gallo>Gordon and Lopez in the long run
yeah I said it, yeah I’m a homer, no I don’t care. But hey he got them Melo!
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I should say Gallo>Lopez already; Gallo>Gordon eventually
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I agree with this
to an extent… it’s hard to argue a 3(Gallo) with a 2 and a Center. It’s like my roomate who was tryin to annoy me last night by comparing melo and ty lawson and I said you can’t really compare those two as players because they are so different in style and how they contribute. I don’t think Aminu will end up being like Gallo tho.
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 11:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Gallo's already better than Lopez
Gordon I could see, but he’s not better than him now. Gordon’s a pretty tight player, can’t take anything away from the kid.
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Lopez is such a stiff
at least Mozgov can move, Lopez is such a bad rebounder for his size, and he plays out of position so much, it is almost embarrassing to watch, why they have Gortat coming off the bench for Lopez just because of “potential” makes no sense to me.
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Oh, I was talking about Brook
Robin’s a scrub’s scrub. Can’t even believe that dude when I watched him play. Both those brothers are bad rebounders for their size and to me, what’s a big if you can’t board?
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Portland has clinched the 6
Portland will beat Dallas if they match-up
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What a quandry for NO tomorrow.
If they beat Dallas, then they get to play LA in the first round, tank and they get SA instead.
They may end up staying in Dallas and playing them
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I'm pretty sure that LA is going to end up winning this ugly game w/SA.
BTW, spurs shooting 30% and are in the game…wtf
other than losing homecourt to the bulls
its in the spurs best interest to lose so they don’t meet the lakers in the 2nd round.
I think it's too soon to say Bynum is out.
He told Phil Jackson at halftime he would be fine. We’ll see.
Of course he'll be fine
But will he be fine tomorrow or will he be fine in a month?
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Hahahaha
Why is that so funny? I don’t know, but I read that and cracked up.
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by GoldenNugget on Apr 12, 2011 11:21 PM MDT up reply actions
you have it all wrong
i had an hour long conversation with josh kroenke last night. he said that melo was actually the good guy in all of this. he told kroenke up front he wanted to go to nyc nothing else would do. according to josh this put them in a great position because a dozen teams wanted melo and what took so long was sifting through the offers, endless negotiations. also that melo was true to nuggets all the way as he would not give away not even a peep about what was in the works. this was hugely favorable to denvers ability to negotiate. he relayed a story from masai about chris bosh where everytime the raptors organization met with bosh he would say ‘everything is great. i don’t want to change anything’. next thing you know he’s on twitter having people vote what team he should move to. he went on to say that if melo had not been straight with them things would have been much more difficult.
fire george karl
by Over-and-back on Apr 12, 2011 11:23 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
interesting
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 12, 2011 11:37 PM MDT up reply actions
i think this certainly could be true
but i also think if the cba situation wasn’t what it was, that melo wouldn’t have cooperated. he would have been happy to leave by free agency after this year. but he had to cooperate to get his max deal and play in NY. In the end everybody pretty got what they wanted.
veru true as well
Melo got lucky, NY didn’t. The new CBA could cost NY a third max contract b/c Melo’s deal is high as is Amare’s where Bosh/Wade/Bron all took a minor pay cut under the max.
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TyRay Felson for MVP!
by NastyNessy71 on Apr 13, 2011 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions
they
dont need another max.,
they need some nice complementary players. Defensive bodies, rebounding bodies, and corner 3 pt shooter. they have enough star talent. a CP3/Deron only gets you a little more speed at the PG position. Doesnt address the major rebounding and defensive liabilities.
while you are correct
I promise you NY finds a way to copycat Miami and land either D-Will or CP3. In which a trio of Amare/Melo/Cp3or D-will scares me more than the 3 stooges in Miami. Regardless they all suck and I dislike all of them very much for trying to dictate the league… you will be able to see my frustration in person when I give my franchise tag speech in my college class in which is supposed to be recorded so I will post it on here.
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by NastyNessy71 on Apr 13, 2011 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Absolutely
Melo really did the Nuggets a huge favor. His reasons for leaving are pretty nebulous but as far as the process you have to hand it to Melo, he was straight up with them.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Apr 13, 2011 2:06 AM MDT up reply actions
i had an hour long conversation with josh kroenke last night
Riiiiiight. I talked to the Pope last night too. And I’m sure Josh loved your sig line.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Apr 13, 2011 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
You spoke to Emperor Palpatine?
I’m impressed.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Apr 13, 2011 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions
lol
I always think of him that way too. Steepled fingers, wearing a holocaust cloak. Damn TV has ruined my brain.
by Joelsopinion on Apr 13, 2011 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
shouldnt you be harassing some poor 3rd world cable guy?
fire george karl
by Over-and-back on Apr 13, 2011 11:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Only after I campaign to have a cancer survivor, and damn good basketball coach, fired.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Apr 14, 2011 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions
thats low even for you
i didnt say anything about fire a cancer survivor. i said fire the idiot coach who does stupid things. like when he should have rested lawson for the last game of the regular season. instead he plays him and now he has a sprained ankle. all for a game that absolutely did not matter in any way. tell me how damn good he is may 2nd.
fire george karl
by Over-and-back on Apr 14, 2011 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Hopefully I’ll be able to. And as a Nugget fan, isn’t that what you hope as well?
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Apr 15, 2011 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Do your homework before writing anything.
WORST EXECUTIVE OF THE YEAR: LON BABBY
“On Babby’s watch, the Suns lost Stoudemire to the Knicks a…”
Wrong. Babby came over months after Stoudemire left and Sarver made some stupid moves like signing Turk and Warrick.
SO:
WORST OWNER OF THE YEAR: Sarver
steve kerr left the suns because sarver wanted to low ball amare'
suns played in the western conferene finals. kerr wanted to keep the team together and sarver did not want to take the risk.
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