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The Nuggets gamble beckons...

You think you're unhappy now, Melo. What happens when the Nuggets franchise-tag you?

With just nine days to go before the NBA's February 24th trade deadline, Nuggets president Josh Kroenke and new general manager Masai Ujiri have a big gamble to make on Carmelo Anthony's future in Denver. 

Star-divide

If it's up to him, Carmelo Anthony isn't staying in Denver long-term.

The Melo man will either force the Nuggets into a pre-deadline trade within the next nine days, force the Nuggets into a post-season trade before the current collective bargaining agreement kicks in or sign the Nuggets generous $65 million extension and then force a trade to the New York Knicks on the other side of the NBA's pending lockout with its players.

And thus, the Nuggets only chance of keeping Melo in Denver is to be forceful in their own right: by forcing #15 to stay in Denver by "franchise-tagging" him should the NBA players approve an NFL-type "franchise tag" option in their new collective bargaining agreement with the league. This would work by allowing NBA teams to choose one pending free agent player to force onto the roster for another year - at a top-dollar salary rate - but at least give the team more time to prepare for their future without said player. But even in that scenario, would the organization and the fans who prop it up financially really want a disgruntled Carmelo Anthony in our locker room? We'll deal with the latter question shortly.

First, let's tackle the gamble facing Kroenke and Ujiri. Do they trade Melo within the next nine days (or at season's end) to the Knicks - Melo's "alleged" hand-picked destination - and take back whatever they can get, thereby gambling that no franchise tag will become available? Or do they keep Melo past February 24th and deal him - or keep him - under the terms of the new CBA and get Melo his money, thereby gambling that the new CBA will be very owner-friendly and the threat of a franchise tag will open Melo's mind up to playing in a market other than New York? Do the Nets, Clippers and Wizards suddenly become possibilities for Melo in lieu of getting "franchise-tagged" in Denver? It's certainly possible.

If the best the Knicks can offer is "system-guy" Wilson Chandler, "DerMarr Johnson 2.0" Corey Brewer and a meaningless, late first round pick in exchange for the greatest Nugget since Alex English ran up and down the McNichols Arena floor, then the Nuggets are better off gambling to see how the new CBA is worked out. Why not? I'd rather see the Nuggets threaten to franchise tag Melo or threaten to put the screws to him with a $30 million salary reduction (salaries under the new CBA are expected to be cut by about 30%) than give him what he wants now in exchange for 10-cents-on-the-dollar.

But what if the Knicks were to offer something more substantial? Like Chandler plus Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov (I'd reserve his spot in the Denver Stiffs Hall of Fame immediately upon execution of the trade) and Eddy Curry's expiring corpse in exchange for Melo, Al Harrington and Renaldo Balkman? Now we're talking 30-cents-on-the-dollar because of a number of intangible benefits.

What if?

For one, the Nuggets would be shedding themselves of the poisonous contract granted to Harrington, a horrible free agent signing in hindsight (I'm convinced the signing of "Big Al" was Mark Warkentien's revenge knowing Stan Kroenke wouldn't renew his contract). Two, the Nuggets would be getting rid of head coach George Karl's least favorite player in Balkman. Three, the ongoing Melodrama would finally be over and the Nuggets could finally begin dealing with the futures of Chauncey Billups, Nene, Arron Afflalo, Kenyon Martin and J.R. Smith. And finally, the Nuggets would get two serviceable swing players in Chandler and Gallo, plus a giant center with some marginal upside in Mozgov who at the very least would allow Nene to move to power forward while giving the Nuggets someone to match up with Joel Pryzbilla (if we can't find humor here, what good are we?).

On the Knicks side of the ledger, such a deal should be a no-brainer. Remember when the Knicks were borderline cocky about not necessarily needing Melo just a month or so ago? Well, now the Knicks are barely treading water at 27-26 and their fans are chanting "We Want Melo!!" at every home game. As ESPN's Chris Sheridan noted the other day, the Knicks should be desperate to acquire Melo now. Moreover, the Eastern Conference remains so pathetically weak that joining Melo with Amar'e Stoudemire, Ray Felton and a few spare parts is enough to get the Knicks several games above .500 and a decent playoff seed. And then on the other side of the lockout, the Knicks can steal any other player they want via free agency.

Ultimately, save a miracle Melo-to-the-Lakers for Andrew Bynum deal, Melo will likely be a Knick some day. It's the worst kept secret in professional basketball. And while the Nuggets could make a huge bet on Melo staying by force, a disgruntled Melo would be even worse than the distracted-but-trying-to-be-professional Melo we have right now.

Therefore, it behooves Kroenke and Ujiri to prey on the Knicks' desperation to salvage a once promising season and get the best the Knicks have to offer. Which, unfortunately for Nuggets fans, isn't much.

But, at the very least, a deal would allow us fans to move on with our lives.

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Another option is not following the team

If I hear an ad that features Gallo as the cornerstone of the Nuggets I am officially over this team, especially if they don’t re-sign JR.

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Feb 15, 2011 12:09 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Come on man

Everybody goes through the crappy times at some point or another. We’ve had a great run for a while and it’s likely time to rebuild. You shouldn’t turn your back that fast. On the other hand, if we keep Melo in “hopes” of this supposed franchise tag that isn’t even a certainty, I will definitely stop watching the Nuggets this season. At that point, games won’t mean anything, the Melo Drama will only get worse as will the team’s play, and it’s just stupid and desperate to hope for something that isn’t even a sure thing. This relationship is over and I’m starting to get fed up with our front office acting like obsessed stalkers. LET IT GO!!! Melo is NOT THAT fucking important, my God.

Hyperboles kill.
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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 5:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I am not talking about Melo

I am talking about if the fans are so anxious they should stop watching games.
I would watch games with Bynum or Favors. But won’t watch games if Gallo dons the powder blue.

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Feb 15, 2011 6:36 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

i will. i like gallo.

i dont kare if my wurds are spelt wrong.

by Over-and-back on Feb 15, 2011 9:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I hope Gallo prove me wrong

I hope he can turn Dirk over Vujacic. But he looks like he is on a Vujajic trajectory to me.
At least he is young I guess.
Man bball will suck for a while. I guess I will watch Rockies in playoffs.
Baseball is soo boring that I have to be a fair weather fan for that sport.

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Feb 15, 2011 10:38 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

i think gallo will be an above avg player in the nba. just my opinion

baseball makes me cringe. i played it in college and i still cant stand watching it.

i dont kare if my wurds are spelt wrong.

by Over-and-back on Feb 15, 2011 11:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Another option is keeping him and gambling they can convince him

to sign the extension. I haven’t heard much conversation about the idea of signing him with an agreement to trade him after the season (Melo could provide some stipulations to which teams he would agree to a trade). In that scenerio the Nuggets would have a guarentee of getting value back from Melo and Melo gets his money. Unless the Nuggets can get more than Chander, DerMarr (2), and a late first round pick it seems like keeping Melo is an easy decision – whether they can get him to sign, whether the new CBA provides for a franchise tag, or whether he walks after the season for conditional draft picks.

by Alaskan4Fat on Feb 15, 2011 12:28 PM MST reply actions  

Agree that Melo is gone, and anyone staying just for a paycheck shouldn't be paid.

Please not Wilson Chandler. Please God, I’m hoping for a Bynum injury and the Lakers give in and make the trade.

by NugzD on Feb 15, 2011 12:32 PM MST reply actions  

knicks reject

Gallinari, Felton, a starter? (guessing either fields or WC, but id take Mosgov either), Curry and a 1st( guessing a minny protected one from an Anthony randolph trade),

for Billups and Melo.

How stupid are the Knicks they are getting two all stars for none and they say no.

plus billups helps them cap wise go after CP3. I dont see why they’d say no. None of those players are build around players except the two we are giving.

that offer is already like 15 cents on the dollar unless they take back Harrington then liek 25 cents on the dollar.

I hope no matter what happens the knicks get screwed.

by nsink on Feb 15, 2011 12:58 PM MST reply actions  

I hope the starter is fields

He has potential to be solid.

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by SteveKing77 on Feb 15, 2011 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

How are the Knicks stupid?

Stupid would be accepting a deal when no one is around to outbid you

Obviously the Knicks are confident in signing Melo in the offseason, which is what would need to happen if they want a shot at having a big 3 when CP3, D-Wil and Howard are up for free agency.

I’m willing to guess that the other starter is Fields and the Knicks don’t want to part with both Gallo and Fields when they know they don’t have to.

by Slang on Feb 15, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

cause

your getting 2 all stars for role players this shouldnt be a difficult decision.

Plus billups contract is way way better to help you acquire CP3 than Feltons is. so if its about a Big three this deal is much better for you than the offseason, unless u want to short melo so his cap number is lower.

I dont think Melo would be to happy if the knicks purposefully avoid getting him his extenison money.

by nsink on Feb 15, 2011 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

The best thing for a big 3 is for Melo to take a discount and not to sign a max extension.

by Slang on Feb 15, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Never happen

Melo has said repeatedly that getting the max extension is very important to him. He’s signing for the max coming hell or high water.

The other reason it isn’t happening is Stoudemire already got the max. Melo’s not going to take substantially less the him, not when he’s the better player. The guys in Miami signed for less than the max, but they all got essentially the same deal.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 15, 2011 3:01 PM MST up reply actions  

In every way

He’s better on offense and defense than stoudemire, and stoudemire isn’t even in the conversation with Melo when you are talking end of the game.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 15, 2011 4:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Cool story bro

Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Trade Melo!

by Zachm219 on Feb 15, 2011 6:45 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

love it

Trade Melo to Toronto and Start JR!!!!!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 7:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Ridiculous arguement

Sounds like a good old fashioned Knicks fan arguement to me. The fact that NYK would reject a deal that gives up anyone on their team not named Stoudemire for Melo and Billups is pathetic. I truly just think it is media hype and it never happened though. Nugs don’t want the Knicks’ trash.

by Gasus on Feb 15, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

That makes sense if you’re looking at this deal in a vacuum and ignoring the external forces at work here. The reality of the situation is that nobody else is interested. Why should the Knicks outbid nobody? Especially if they think they can sign him in the off season without giving up anyone.

Negotiating 101.

by Slang on Feb 15, 2011 2:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Good One

I call that Knick fan response 101

by Gasus on Feb 15, 2011 5:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Nobody else is interested in Melo

Man, thats got to be the Knick fan delusional statement of the year

Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Trade Melo!

by Zachm219 on Feb 15, 2011 6:46 PM MST up reply actions  

not when he's made his intentions clear

that he only wants to sign in one place.

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by wilddre22 on Feb 15, 2011 10:08 PM MST up reply actions  

I still don't understand why we're trying to take back Felton and trade Billups

Why the hell would we do that? The only think I can think is that maybe we could then flip Felton for another piece, but I certainly am skeptic given how off-putting our front office has been during this entire ordeal.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 5:52 PM MST up reply actions  

This trade works...

Trade Machine

You could also throw Fields in there and it would work.

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by BittenAnkles on Feb 16, 2011 9:55 AM MST up reply actions  

the team has voted

The team has voted in the last 5 games to blow it up.

They have given up on fighting to keep Melo. There is little reason for him to stay or for the team to keep him.

Just don’t give him up for garbage. A sign and trade is better than what is out there now.

by buffallo soldier on Feb 15, 2011 1:01 PM MST reply actions  

agree

its not even fun to watch anymore, the team looks like it has given up.

by nsink on Feb 15, 2011 1:05 PM MST reply actions  

Are you guys forgetting our excellent game against the Mavs?

Do you call that giving up? I sure don’t. We were flat outplayed yesterday…..simple as that.

This team is up and down. But I don’t think they give up. Sometimes they just don’t have the answers, either coaching wise and matchups…

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 1:09 PM MST up reply actions  

we

like playing the mavs ever since the 2nd rd playoff series where cuban got under the nugs skin.

but that hou game was pathetic same with the memphis one, same with the hous one before we could een win behind melos 50, wheres the heart (the D, the passion to close out, and win the close ones, and the ones you havve a lead in)

by nsink on Feb 15, 2011 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

yup

9-18 on the road — this season is crap, the pieces aren’t working together anymore. That game against the Mavs should’ve galvanized the team and inspired a win streak. Instead they’ve just fallen apart, giving up big leads to inferior teams.

IMO it’s time to

by ParkHillNative on Feb 15, 2011 1:40 PM MST up reply actions  

the last two games

they have rolled over and quit. no denying it. I think they still have enough pride (for now) not to do that on their home floor.

by Rainbow skyline on Feb 15, 2011 3:45 PM MST up reply actions  

do it within the next 9 days

if the knicks throw in mozgov and gallinari, DO IT. I want the team to be able to focus on basketball again.

we won’t have a deep playoff-run WITH melo this year, so why keep his distracting situation around? you can clearly see the affect this bullshit has on the team every night…

pass the ball a few more times to nene on the block, give that unsecure guy, formerly known as jr swish (whos trying to do the right thing in limited minutes) a little bit more freedom AND responsability and we could follow a nuggets team that would be fun to watch for the rest of the season

by MZG on Feb 15, 2011 1:10 PM MST reply actions  

We need it done in the next 4-5 days

That way depending on all we get back we have time to move K-Mart and possible JR (I hope not JR though).

Ty, Tebow, and Tulo. Everything is better with a T.

by SteveKing77 on Feb 15, 2011 1:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Exactly

Throughout all this entire process the one thing we seem to have forgot is that we’re still in the business of playing basketball. Keeping Melo even if there is a franchise tag isn’t worth it. This shit will go so bad it will seriously push many fans away. Hell, I’m a die hard and I’m already offended by the simple fact that we’re even considering keeping Melo any longer. I can’t imagine how the average fan would feel.

At some point, we have to acknowledge that winning basketball games in priority number one, and honestly we have a better chance of doing that these days without Melo because he’s that bad of a distraction.

I’m telling you guys, if we keep Melo, I’m done. I might even consider doing a protest outside Pepsi Center if anybody is interested.

Hyperboles kill.
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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 5:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm there...in a heartbeat

Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Trade Melo!

by Zachm219 on Feb 15, 2011 6:49 PM MST up reply actions  

what 3 starters

are you considering Mosgov a starter?

so far ive seen gallo, fields or gallo, wc or a felton, gallo, wc or fields but billups comes back in that one so ud get 2 all star starters back for 3 starting role players

by nsink on Feb 15, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

aging billups

is still better than felton.

any playoff coach would take billups over felton for this postseason hands down.
And if the whole goal is CP3 than youth and age dont matter only length of contract, which Billups is perfect for.

by nsink on Feb 15, 2011 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

How are you going to acquire either?

What contracts are you going to use to make the salaries match?

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 15, 2011 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

That'll be up to the CBA or whatever trade possibilities are open then.

And if we have to ride into the future with either Billups or Felton, I’ll go with the younger option.

by GAx on Feb 15, 2011 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I can understand the younger option

but if you look at the nets roster, it becomes very difficult to match a $16 million incoming contract when you have Felton at $7 million as your biggest contract available outside of Melo and Stoudemire.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 15, 2011 4:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Knicks are crazy not to take that deal

Billups is a great pick up. He’s a better pg than felton and comes off the book when they’re ready to make a run at CP3.

by Alaskan4Fat on Feb 15, 2011 1:20 PM MST reply actions  

he is a better PG

but not this season, Felton has beasted for us. and his contract comes off the books in 2 years also, when CP3 becomes a FA.

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by wilddre22 on Feb 15, 2011 10:12 PM MST up reply actions  

How do they do this Andrew?
And then on the other side of the lockout, the Knicks can steal any other player they want via free agency.

How do they sign any player they want in free agency? We don’t know what the cap will be, but just Melo, Stoudemire, Felton, Harrington, and their other contracts, they are right up against this years cap. Who knows where the cap is going, but I doubt it will be going up substantially. The trade you describe would leave them as a middle of the pack team in the east, and without any assets to get better.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 15, 2011 1:25 PM MST reply actions  

What I meant by "steal" is...

…(and I should have clarified this in the column) that the Knicks, being in New York with marquee stars like Amar’e and Melo, could snag a free agent – even under the new rules – at a reduced rate simply because of the allure of New York and where the Knicks will be heading as an organization.

Kind of like the Heat stole Mike Miller and the Big Z.

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by Andrew Feinstein on Feb 15, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know. Maybe it was the fact that we've had crap management for the last 10 years that scared people off

but even in ‘96 when the Knicks last had cap space to be players they didn’t come away with their A-list wants. I’m very happy with who we ended up with, but NY has a reputation more of being used as a boogeyman by players and their agents in negotiations rather than actually attracting the top free agents.

LA, maybe. Miami this year is about ring-chasing vets like in Boston and LA. NY? Who’ve they really stolen? I don’t dispute the city/team/venue’s allure, and I think it’d be a great place for any great player to want to play at, but it’s not like Shaq spurned the Magic for the Knicks or anything.

by GAx on Feb 15, 2011 1:33 PM MST up reply actions  

we are assuming a Knick team of Anthony and STAT will actually be good....

I would have to believe it to see it, defense is what wins in this league and I can’t see them being any better than us on offense since we are actually #1 right now…how good has that made us?

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Nugs have the #1 offense in the league....so what...

we have the 23rd rand defense and dropping fast to go with a 26th ranked rebounding unit….these are similar numbers to the Knicks…so how are the Knicks so drastically improved with Melo…It is kind of like when we added Iverson and expected to get better even though he doesn’t improve defense or rebounding. Think about it, this is not fantasy basketball.

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

iverson

i feel like iverson was such a parasite because he was point guard who had know idea what assist meant

by j_oppy on Feb 15, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't like (I)verson here either but...

He did average more assists per game as a nugget then Billups has

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by The U.N. Fab Five on Feb 15, 2011 3:50 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

You're offense is largely built around Melo making it work, though.

Nene shoots a fantastic percentage and I’d love to have him included in any deal, but when it’s “Pack the inside against the entry to Nene and dare the rest to shoot 3s” the team will suffer. Not especially because George Karl doesn’t seem to run any real discernible system.

Melo added as a FA to the Knicks would work pretty well.

by GAx on Feb 15, 2011 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

That is true Melo is the main reason our offense flourishes

but he is also a big reason why our defense sucks and my point is simply that Melo doesn’t provide what you Knicks as a team need which is defense and rebounding from your 4 and 5 positions. So your offense improves from #4 to #1 exactly how many more wins will that net you. Got a hint for you it won’t get you out of the first round as we have experienced quite frequently. Good luck!!!!

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Just getting into the playoffs was the goal this year. Anything else is gravy on top.

Now I love gravy and the portly woman at the Boston Chicken counter hates me always askin her to hook it up a little give me some love, but I’m good with just being a solid playoff contender with a chance to make it out of the first round. Adding Carmelo to the mix with a full training cmap going into next season as our younger seeds grow and improve, it adds up to a solid For Real Year Two for Walsh.

by GAx on Feb 15, 2011 3:49 PM MST up reply actions  

A Melo/STAT Knicks Team

Does not stand a chance against Boston or Miami in a 7 game series. You also lack the size to match up with Chicago or Orlando and would really struggle to beat either of those teams in a 7 game series. Maybe you could beat Atlanta but until you find someone better than that russian to play the 5 you will get bounced in the first round every year.

The playoffs are won with defense, toughness, rebounding and execution…why do you think D’antoni has never won a championship?

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Trade Melo!

by Zachm219 on Feb 15, 2011 6:57 PM MST up reply actions  

i believe Boston is on their last hurrah tho

their big 3 are all in the twilights of their careers, as is some of their veteran bench players. and with doc rivers looking forward to retirement, i think this year, or maybe next, will be Boston’s swan song.

Miami is a real threat, and will be even more so if they get a legitimate big. but they’re essentially bullies, as if they don’t beat up on you early, they’re not good late(when it’s close). 5-9 in games decided by 5 or less i believe.

we’ve beaten Chicago both times we faced them already, albeit they weren’t 100% healthy each time. but health cannot be assumed, so i’d take my chances against them.

we’ve already improved our team immensely from what we were last season, if we ever do get Melo, i’ll go to war against any of those aforementioned with much confidence.

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by wilddre22 on Feb 15, 2011 10:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey, now!

The nuggets have a system. It even has a name.

Phil Jackson has the “triangle”
Jerry Sloan has the “flex”
and G.K. has the “random”

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 15, 2011 4:09 PM MST up reply actions  

correction Jerry Sloan HAD the flex

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by The U.N. Fab Five on Feb 15, 2011 4:15 PM MST up reply actions  

you are right about this

stat and melo would be great together in the sense that they would feed off of each other and both score 40+ per night.

so the knicks would lose by 20 all the time.

i dont kare if my wurds are spelt wrong.

by Over-and-back on Feb 15, 2011 10:01 PM MST up reply actions  

what about the bulls...

The Nuggets are focusing on two teams – the Knicks and Chicago Bulls – because Anthony is willing to sign a contract extension with those clubs. Houston and Dallas remain outside possibilities while the Nets are the wild card. New York Daily News\

I think that the Bulls offer of Deng, Gibson and 2#1’s are on the table and Senior Stan doesn’t want to take Deng’s contract and hoping the NY outbids….I say screw Senior Silent Stuckup Stingy Stand and do the Deng deal already. One of the #1’s is a Bobcat pick that is unprotected in 2016… I know that’s a long time but seeing how crappy the Bobcats are and knowing they are trying to get rid of their best players now it could be a great pick….Deng is solid and Gibson would be a great addition. I am pretty sure that the Bulls would oblige…

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 1:40 PM MST reply actions  

knicks trade better

deng and chandler are equal in talent excect chandler is younger and gallinari and mozgov both are younger have more potential than gibson

by j_oppy on Feb 15, 2011 1:47 PM MST up reply actions  

We would be morons to pass that up

Just because of Dengs contract. Wake the hell up Stan!!! You’re a freaking millionaire! You’re in the buisness of the NBA, you HAVE to pay people eventually!!!

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 6:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I think you meant to say Billionaire

Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Trade Melo!

by Zachm219 on Feb 15, 2011 6:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Chandler

chandler is a good player, it is bullshit when people say “he is a product of the system” he could easily play in a halfcourt offense and get his own shot. he is not just a three shooter, ive watched him this year.

by j_oppy on Feb 15, 2011 1:43 PM MST reply actions  

+1

Uninformed, that’s all I have to say.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 6:01 PM MST up reply actions  

chandler is a pretty good player but he most likely is a rental for denver or anyone else he doesnt want to sign with.

i have no anger against him for not wanting to play in a small market. hell, i dont blame him for not wanting to be “coached” by george karl. the thing is, if we want a rental for the rest of the season we already have one. his name is melo.

i dont kare if my wurds are spelt wrong.

by Over-and-back on Feb 15, 2011 10:03 PM MST up reply actions  

believe what you want, are you a Knick fan

trying to sell me on your crap for the best player on our team? You sound like a car salesman trying to get me to trade my Lexus in for a Ford Escort.

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 1:53 PM MST reply actions  

Thanks for your advice but honestly as Andrew pointed out

if we take what you want to give us we might as well just take the gamble as it is not all about a franchise tag, it is about at least 20 million dollars that Melo would lose out on. We gave you an offer and you rejected it . My advice is to you that you should take it or lose out on Melo all together as he might not sign with you as a FA and just take the money. Plus you never know we may just take the Bulls deal or the Nets could come back to the picture. I would hate for you to be the second best team in the NY area….

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 2:05 PM MST reply actions  

Do you guys not use the reply buttons?

It makes it really hard to figure out who’s arguing with whom?

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 2:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry I know it is a pet peeve of yours but subconsciously

I figured that I would leave it out there for any other Knick fans who want to bring their same tired arguments.

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 2:09 PM MST reply actions  

It's not a pet peeve. It really makes it easier to follow the threads...

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 2:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I think we should keep him.

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions  

so your'e saying there's a chance!!

If all we can get is marginal talent from the Knicks I would do the same…I really don’t see Melo walking away from 20 million necessarily. I am thinking there is about a 30 % chance of him staying and signing which is worth the risk if we can’t get crap back. Just don’t know if my Nugget fan heart can take more Melodrama for the rest of the season and onto June 30th. I just hope that the Bulls deal is on the table and Senior, Silent, Stingy, Stuckup, Stuffy,Stan chooses the team’s performance over cost cutting.

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

They won't make it without his signature

And I don’t see him signing the deal to go to the Nyets

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 4:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm not optimistic about it

but they have to at least present it to him and force him to say no before taking any lessor offer.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 15, 2011 4:39 PM MST up reply actions  

do you think Proky is still lying in the bushes in wait

or do you think he’s moved on? i think it’s the latter.

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by wilddre22 on Feb 15, 2011 10:23 PM MST up reply actions  

When our guys are hitting on all cylinders, like against the Mavs for example,

they are world beaters. I think keeping Melo through the end of the season should give them some motivation to get moving towards staying on all cylinders…

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

yup.

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 2:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Sheldon? Ely?

One legged Yao?

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by REAPtheThird on Feb 15, 2011 3:10 PM MST up reply actions  

The Mavs game was great, but

we blew a lead, and had it not been for AAA getting red hot in the last minutes, it would have been another loss under the same formula of our games against Memphis and Houston.

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by margabelle on Feb 15, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

That game was back and forth the whole game.

I’m just saying that we tend to forget how good this team can be and often is….

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

We like our reality fox news style

who cares about facts, we’ll just say things are the way we would like them to be.

That great 7-6 record Karl was talking about looks like a tall order right now. 3-7 in the last 10.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 15, 2011 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

This is a really insulting comparison.

This team is both brilliant and terrible at times. That is a fact.

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Which is the mark of a team not good enough to win in the playoffs

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by Phil H. on Feb 15, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Every dog has its day

Remember, Charlotte beats up on the Lakers for some reason. It doesn’t make them a contender. The Nuggets are not contenders…even with Melo.

by Pusherman on Feb 15, 2011 3:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Great idea, really great idea

Yeah lets FORCE him to stay in a place where he doesn’t want to be for an ENTIRE year longer that what’s already gone on! Are you a glutton for punishment? Do you like living in hell everyday? Is it fun for you to watch the Nuggets play with no heart, desire, determination, passion, etc. everynight and just go through the motions???

UUUGGGHHHH!!!!! I just don’t get it!

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 6:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Why is it FORCING him to stay? He can leave at the end of the season.

And then Nuggets don’t have to accept a crap deal.

Just my opinion. And seriously, calm down…

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I was kind of implying if there was a franchise tag

But still, there’s no point in even keeping him through this season either. We’re already completely falling apart, I just can’t even imagine how bad things will continue to get. Hell, we’re in danger of missing the playoffs entirely WITH Melo!!! So what would be the point in keeping him? That’s what I want to know. What do we gain in any way by keeping Melo? You give me the answer to that question, and then we’ll talk.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 6:22 PM MST up reply actions  

I gave you my answer. Nothing more to talk about.

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 6:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I like Punishment

At least that’s what my First Sergeant says everytime I decide sleep is more important than a 4am formation.

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 6:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Eh, we all like a little punishment every now and then

But watching the Nuggets this year is pretty much torture. I don’t like it THAT much.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 6:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I turned off the Memphis game

and didn’t even bother with last nights game

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 6:28 PM MST up reply actions  

While Denver officials remain engaged with other teams and are focused on finding the best deal for Anthony before the deadline, they also are optimistic they can find a solution that would keep Anthony in Denver for the rest of the season --

Several players on expiring contracts who could help Denver are expected to be available in the coming days. According to league sources, Portland is expected to entertain offers for several of its older players, including Joel Przybilla, who would provide some much-needed depth on Denver’s front line. Same for Indiana’s Jeff Foster, as Pacers president Larry Bird has publicly stated that he will explore cashing in expiring contracts for assets as opposed to waiting for free agency. The Rockets, one of the few teams willing to take on money, could make Shane Battier available if they can upgrade their talent. Battier would give Denver coach George Karl another dependable and versatile wing defender.

By Ken Berger
CBSSports.com Senior Writer

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 15, 2011 6:40 PM MST up reply actions  

to me its simple

If the nuggets want to try and contend, they’ll take the bulls deal. If they want to blow the team up and suck for the next couple of years, they’ll do some sort of ny deal, then proceed to trade everyone else and let our free agents walk. I would love the bulls deal personally, Denver is a pretty good player and he gives us some d from the 3 spot. Taj is EXACTLY what this team is missing in my opinion too ( besides an all star 7 footer obviously)

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 2:14 PM MST reply actions  

I like the deal and the fact that we haven't heard anything about it

except for some tidbits that say the Bulls are in the running and that Melo would play there makes me think that we are asking for Noah and the Bulls are saying “no” but that they would do Deng, Gibson and a pick or two and that we can always go back to them with that.

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I would like Taj on this team

He rebounds, blocks, and plays a bit of D. When he was thrown in Chicago’s rotation a few weeks ago when Boozer was out, he was putting up double doubles and 4 blocks a night.

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 4:41 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

Thing about the Bulls deal is that if we made it we’d have Gibson and Deng on the team for a long time. And you’re right, Gibson is that force down low we’ve been missing forever. Plus, I think the Bulls would be willing to part with a few more assets if we threw in Harrington as well.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 6:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Taj Gibson??Reallyare you serious??? hahahahahahahaha

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 17, 2011 3:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Who would've thought?

Tom Haberstroh(Espn Insider)
Synergy’s top 5 worst defenders (min. 300 plays): J.R. Smith, Ramon Sessions, Daniel Gibson, Marco Belinelli, Nic Batum.

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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 2:16 PM MST reply actions  

I'm rather surprised that JR is on that list.

Seriously.

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I am too

He has played very good D this year. Wonder what this opinion was based on.

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 4:42 PM MST up reply actions  

This

At least JR looks like he tries.

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by CombatChuk on Feb 15, 2011 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Well thats just dumb

Meloooooo!!!
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Stop Snitchin!!!
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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Amare is in the 300 hundreds and Melo is like in the avg of about 150-200.

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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Then I already know Synergy doesn't know what its talking about

I thought Batum was supposed to be a good defensive player??? Maybe Synergy hasn’t been watching the games where the people Melo guards always go off on him (i.e. Shane Battier last night and countless others I can’t even begin to list).
The guy just jogged up and down the court yesterday. Who would want a player who does that. We can pay Eddy Curry to do that.

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by JR15 on Feb 15, 2011 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Numbers don’t lie?

Meloooooo!!!
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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 2:23 PM MST up reply actions  

exactly

If you base someone’s defensive presence on stats alone you’re missing out on their ACTUAL defensive VALUE. You have to actually watch games to see how good someone is on d because there’s a lot of nba players who can still score when being defended as good as you can defend

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

That's what Synergy is about

Synergy is very reliable.

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by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 15, 2011 2:54 PM MST up reply actions  

JR gambles too much

Like Iverson…he gets steals, but isn’t a good defensive player.

by Pusherman on Feb 15, 2011 3:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I wonder how Al Harrington

Is judged as a better defender than JR??
It just doesn’t make any sense. I can see if JR forces someone to go baseline, but he has no help because our bigs never help on defense!! Otherwise JR stays in front of his guy.
This is not just being emotional, this just seems like those synergy guys don’t know what to measure for defensive metrics.

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by JR15 on Feb 15, 2011 5:28 PM MST up reply actions  

thats bs

Jr has been pretty good on d this year… I think Karl’s philosophy on sagging behind the 3 point line is what makes us look so bad on d a lot of the time

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

That

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by SDcat09 on Feb 15, 2011 2:22 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

Karl should take a lot of the blame for the defensive performance. Guys don’t have any clue what they are doing on pick and rolls, they switch stupidly.

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 2:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd like to see

how they figure this… JR always has his hand in the shooters face, his Steals and Rebounds are at a career high the only thing he sucks at is getting caught up in the Screens and Switches. Hasn’t everyone on this site preached Batum’s defense too? Wasn’t that why everyone wanted to bring him in to replace Melo?

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 5:31 PM MST up reply actions  

JR’s D is Simply GARBAGE, he’s constantly being called out by the officials for reaching and when he isnt reaching he gets crossed over and scored on….JR is a serious threat to the Nuggets organization, sure he’s on sports center top 10 plays every other nite but this guy is strictly about show boating and the nuggets desperately need to trade his ass…this team will never make it to the NBA finals as long as they have JR Smith, Kenyon Martin, and Bird-Tird

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 17, 2011 3:08 AM MST up reply actions  

smitty has played the best defense this season

i agree about kfart and turdman but jr is a keeper.

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by Over-and-back on Feb 17, 2011 9:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Stupid

Defense isn’t a measurable stat a lot of the times. For bigs, it’s a little bit different but still, remember how bad Camyby’s man-to-man defense was when he won DPY? The real great defenders like Bruce Bowen, Artest (at times) really don’t have stats to prove it.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah the thing is he has had a few seasons to fix this...

also if we do trade for chandler it has to be a 3 team trade because we’re not keepin him

by Rys on Feb 15, 2011 2:53 PM MST reply actions  

so what are you guys doin to reIief your frustrattions other than drinkin and postin on this blog

this is probably gonna turn out bad for us no mattr what we get from NY, so this all seems kind of pointless arguin ovr these little things.

the NJ trade was the only trade that had tangible upside for us, and of course in typical nuggets fashion we find a way to mess it up, why can t we jus get things dun right.

by Rys on Feb 15, 2011 2:57 PM MST reply actions  

Lots of PT

In the form of running 5 miles twice a day.

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 4:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Honestly

deal Melo to Houston for Scola, Courtney Lee and Shane Battier.
Billups, AAA, JR, Scola, Nene with Ty, Lee, Battier, Big AL and Bird off the bench. Not a bad team and I think is the best deal available for the Nuggets. Then go after Jeff Green next year, offer him Rudy Gay money. He plays PF for OKC but has the same body type as Melo at 6’9 235. A future of Ty,AAA, Green, Scola and Nene is a nice foundation.

I think the Melo drama is hurting this team. They went from being inconsistent on a weekly basis to inconsistent on an in-game basis and it’s just bad. Melo is cleary a distraction because while his teamates are waiting forhim to jump on the bus to leave he’s talking to every visiting team’s reporters about playing in their respected city like last night. He said “it would be interesting to play in Houston, They are an upand coming team and I think anybody would want to be a part of that”

If i was playing with someone who talked about playing somewhere else more than the team he’s on I’d lose all respect for him and want him to just move on. Again, that’s my opinion but this is just getting retarded. If Denver keeps Melo past the deadline it will all just continue with "Will Melo stay, will he leave via free agency, will he be traded in the off season or draft night blah blah blah and it will just keep eating away at this team. It’s time to end this all. I’d rather watch a focused team without Melo that maybe isn’t as good as they are now play than a disfunctional Melo team play. End it.

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 3:00 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

He really is

He’s underrated and a RFA. OKC can’t afford to keep him with Rudy Gay Money since they maxed Durant and will have to max Westbrook. Maxing Green would put them in the same situation as Miami but worse b/c they have less money to work with after the new CBA and the 3-some of Westbrook/Durant/Green doesn’t really compare to Miami’s. They have players like Serg Ibaka, James Harden etc to worry about and could sign both of them long term with Jeff Green Money. I think they might be forced to let him go or at least make a sign-and-trade with him.

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 3:06 PM MST up reply actions  

because he played for syracuse

dump salary players like scola and chandler gallo are not that hard to attain on the FA market, you might have to overpay some but not that much.

by Rys on Feb 15, 2011 3:06 PM MST up reply actions  

After thinking about it

I like that trade. I am pretty sure Houston would pull the trigger on it too. Might they take Bird and offer us any picks? And I do not think we should pay Green the money that Gay got, but we definitely should pursue him. We would have a good lineup for years to come, especially with Nene being our oldest starter.

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 4:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Scola would be the oldest starter

But he’s a very young 30 since he’s only been in the league for 4 years. And Green will def get Gay money. His numbers are as good and he’s a much better defender. Green is literally Melo 2.0. He can shoot the 3, mid range and has a game down low they are all just not quite as good as Melo’s. Greens a better 3 point shooter though and he’s way better than Wilson Chandler. I’d rather pay Green 12 mil a year and get his game then spend 9 mil a year on Chandler.

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 4:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Oldest starting next year.

Sorry, I expunged that word from my comment. I agree he is better than Chandler, but I don’t think many teams will be going to pay him the amount that Memphis gave Gay. That is just my thoughts though. I never thought we would overpay for Bird and Big Al, but we did.

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

With the new CBA

Green may be able to be had for less than what Gay got, but I would put Green in the same class as Rudy Gay and Danny Granger

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 4:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Denver could also offer

Greg Oden some Darko Milicik type dollars and take a nice risk at a fairly low price on a Center that when Healthy can completely dominate. If they sign him they can bring him off the bench and work him into the game slowly like what Portland should have done.

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Lol, not another KMART PLEASE no more injury plagued players

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 17, 2011 3:11 AM MST up reply actions  

green is not a better 3pt shooter than melo

and melo’s nothing special on the 3pt line. And he’s not a better shooter than wilson chandler or luol deng. but he’s in that class of player not a rudy gay or danny granger. those guys can lead a team, green cannot. it would be foolish to throw so much money at him.

we should trade with chicago. deng would be a good fit on this team if he can remain healthy. he’s a good rebounder for a SF and plays solid defense. chandler and green are both likely to get big contracts like he got, so I don’t see why people recoil in fear when they see deng’s deal. getting some good picks and gibson is a big plus.

by skithebert on Feb 15, 2011 8:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Word

Agreed on all points, but Houston wouldn’t give up that much for Melo. If they offered Battier and two first rounders I’d do it in an instant though.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 6:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Nuggets call for fast until trade deadline

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_16222097

"Denver Nuggets executive vice president of basketball operations, Masai Ujiri, today asked fans of the team to fast until the NBA trade deadline, which is Thursday, February 24, at 3 PM EST. Ujiri believes the organization needs all the help it can get as the team falls deeper into disarray over the Carmelo Anthony situation.

"’Melo’s fast clearly elevated his play over the last couple of weeks,’ said Ujiri, ‘so we hope the fans’ fasting will lift us out of our desperate circumstances as we approach the deadline.’ Nuggets owner Josh Kroenke also announced that for the only home game remaining until the trade deadline, against Memphis on February 22, the Pepsi Center concessions will serve water—and nothing else.

"‘The fans can make a huge difference for us at this critical juncture,’ Kroenke implored. ‘We also ask for prayer and supplication before the God of your choice. As Masai said, we clearly need all the help we can get. In fact, we need a miracle!’"

by LongWindedHank on Feb 15, 2011 3:08 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

=)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28R3_3-BlXA

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 3:19 PM MST up reply actions  

ujiri tips his hat to himself for coming to work every day

http://www.thedenverpost.com/ci_16222098

“I don’t think an average GM would be able to go through what I have been going through. Having to listen to upset Nugget fans, Stan Kroenke and Melo all in my ear at the same time has caused me to lose hearing in my left ear. I get so tired I can’t drive home from work and have to have a car fetched to come pick me up. Every time I watch a Nuggets game and see Melo run back on defense I puke in my mouth just a little. It is tough just picking up my phone when I see Donnie Walsh on the caller ID, I have disguise my voice as Mikail Prokorov so that Donnie thinks we are on a 3 way call and engaged in an auction. I can’t wait til this is over so I can eat solid foods again, I tip my hat to myself on being able to handle this”

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 3:19 PM MST reply actions  

Alan Hahn
Update on Melo: talks will go thru AS Wknd, will get red hot by next Tues. Parameters set. Negotiation time.

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Stop Snitchin!!!
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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 4:11 PM MST reply actions  

Nah it ain’t goin down till next week at the earliest.

Meloooooo!!!
JR Swish From Way Down Town!!!
Stop Snitchin!!!
I may be wrong but I doubt it!!

by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 4:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Monday could make sense

Wait till after the all-star game so as not to detract from it. Knicks play on Wednesday, so Melo gets there late Monday and has an intro to the system on Tuesday. Nuggets play tuesday, but if they do this, they are blowing up the team and won’t care about the game on Tuesday.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 15, 2011 4:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Monday makes a lot of sense. Its going down Monday or Tuesday for sure.

Meloooooo!!!
JR Swish From Way Down Town!!!
Stop Snitchin!!!
I may be wrong but I doubt it!!

by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 4:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Trade him during the ASG

he will be the first player ever pulled from an ASG because of a trade, make history!

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by Phil H. on Feb 15, 2011 4:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Lol………..1st half he plays for the West 2nd half he plays for the East

Meloooooo!!!
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Stop Snitchin!!!
I may be wrong but I doubt it!!

by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 4:30 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

God how much I’d pay to see that happen.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Question? If we are asking for Raymond Felton what does that mean for TY? Are we not sure he can be the starting PG of the future?

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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 4:36 PM MST reply actions  

we can flip him...teams need PG's

maybe a flip for Batum along with something else

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 4:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Good point! Forgot about that.

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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 4:40 PM MST up reply actions  

He's average at best

Prior to the D’antoni stat inflation machine, his best season was 14-7. Nothing special.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Feb 15, 2011 4:42 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah we would have to add more than Felton to get

something we really want but PG’s are at a premium and he is average to decent. The Wolves may like him, maybe the Clips, I know Portland is trying to get rid of Andre…if we can get a servicable big for him that can actually grab a rebound and play some post defense I would be pleased.

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 4:47 PM MST up reply actions  

the hell with aquiring felton i’d keep chauncey any day over felton plus im sure billups would be willing to resign w/denver for cheap as denver is his hometown and he clearly wants to be here

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 15, 2011 7:24 PM MST up reply actions  

that's because he was being coached by a nightmare

named Larry Brown who wanted everything slowed down to a crawl. that’s not Felton’s game. think back to his UNC days, he was at his best when they were pushing the rock.

plus you guys score more than us, so he would probably flourish MORE in denver.

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by wilddre22 on Feb 15, 2011 10:28 PM MST up reply actions  

both career years

good point on DJ ski

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by wilddre22 on Feb 16, 2011 7:42 AM MST up reply actions  

That's the only logical reason I can think of

When Ty gets full duty, Felton won’t be able to hold his jock strap. I bet we’d try and flilp him for something but I just don’t know what or how considering this thing is going down to the deadline. Seems like a moot point considering they declined though.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 6:15 PM MST up reply actions  

3 team trade with the Lakers?

They need a PG and we need someone bigger than what we have. Doesn’t Odom’s contract run about the same?

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 6:23 PM MST up reply actions  

They don't need Felton that bad though

They’re back to back chamions and Odom has been a huge part of their success. I don’t see it happening, but someone of Odom’s caliber I’m sure we could get. Someone like a Kaman, Odom, David West, etc.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 8:43 PM MST up reply actions  

LA needs a PG too

Felton for Odom straight up?

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 4:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Fine

We’ll take the Chubby Kardashian too. =)

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 4:53 PM MST up reply actions  

one can dream....

teams that need a PG

Miami, Atlanta,Cleveland,Lakers, Houston and Portland maybe,Clippers, Sac and Minny….can we get Kaman from the Clips for Felton so Baron Davis can be put to pasture. I am sure we could get Pryzbilla for Felton…Jason Thompson from Sac…??

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 4:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Baron has been balling this year.

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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 4:56 PM MST up reply actions  

yea he has

I think b griffin has inspired him this year

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

dont think the Clips are too pleased with him

doesnt distribute very well, shoots woefully, plays inconsistent, d has been lacking, huuuuge salary. I think they would welcome Felton but would have to get someone to take his contract and they have Bledsoe

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 5:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Check out the latest article about the future landing spot of Melo, by NY Post beat writer Fred Kerber

Bottom paragraphs about Troy Murphy. Kerber is fairly well respected as an Insider.

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/netsblog/james_returning_to_nets_murphy_isn_2KlOLGPWEfZZK0lG0o0zPI

Remember if Troy Murphy is traded before Melo, then Knicks would be able to pull back their offers, with Nuggets having less options. Nets GM is out recruiting for the draft and has been talking to teams about trading Murphy, which he expects to do before the deadline. There are 2 interviews from yesterday where Billy King states this.

I loved Kerber’s line about Knicks reaction to Nuggets demands:

“And with the Knicks’ initial offer underwhelming, and reports of Denver’s counter requests causing Knicks brass to reach for the cardiac paddles, it is only a matter of time before Denver calls the Nets back”

by jerry25 on Feb 15, 2011 5:20 PM MST reply actions  

Didn't you hear?

Melo just got traded to Milwaukee bro. Will you stop posting Nets BS on here now please?

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 5:22 PM MST up reply actions  

I wish an NJ deal happened man

You are about as desperate as us. It doesn’t look like its going to happen, but I am pulling for a LAL or NJ deal.

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by JR15 on Feb 15, 2011 5:29 PM MST up reply actions  

He's going to Houston

mark my words.

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 5:32 PM MST up reply actions  

WTF

where the Knicks thinking, rejecting that deal

by Airfeet on Feb 15, 2011 5:33 PM MST reply actions  

What was the deal exactly?

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 5:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd rather have

Randolph in the deal too.

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

He's gooooooooooood

Idk if GK will like him but he’s a real nice project big to replace K Mart when his washed up ass leaves town

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 5:39 PM MST up reply actions  

yea

I think if he was on a good team with a good coach he would be AWESOME

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 5:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Honestly

I dislike both of those players a lot

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 5:39 PM MST up reply actions  

I can't stand gallo

Mosgov has some upside though…. plus he’s bigger than anyone the nuggs have had in years

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 5:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I think it was Fields instead of Chandler (he would be a RFA) and Randolph would be used to get a draft pick from Minny.

Truth is that there never was a deal. It was probably a leak used to try to get Knick fans to pressure FO to do anything to make the deal. People are taking Minny for granted. No one has even heard from Minny directly.

ESPN left off the Fields part, but it was mentioned in an interview this AM.

by jerry25 on Feb 15, 2011 5:42 PM MST up reply actions  

If that's the deal

then the Knicks did the right thing because they have a lot of leverage here.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 6:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow that is all!!

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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 5:35 PM MST reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fprAR855-4&feature=youtu.be

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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 5:35 PM MST up reply actions  

That's nasty

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by NastyNessy71 on Feb 15, 2011 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow

that is team chemistry. they knew what to do

Trade Melo to Toronto and Start JR!!!!!
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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 6:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Nuggets-Melo answer is not Melo being traded

Denver would be making a huge mistake if they trade Melo, theyd go back to competing in the NBA basement along with the cleveland cavs and sacramento kings, what really needs to happen is they need to trade for some quality big men if they can somehow trade Kenyon Martin-Bird Man-Balkman-and possibly JR Smith…..the Bigs availible are not bad Id love to see Chris Kaman in a Nuggets Uniform or Joel Pryzbilla, Samuel Dalenbert, or even Hasheem Thabeet, if we were able to aquire two quality Centers we could move Nene to his true position of PF where he could become the most dominant PF in the league……my dream starting lineup would look like this

PG: Chauncey Billups

SG: Arron Aflalo

SF: Melo

PF:Nene

C: Chris Kaman

2nd team

PG: Ty Lawson

SG: JR Smith

SF: Gary Forbes

PF: Al Harrington

C: Joel Pryzbilla/Hasheem Thabeet/ or Samuel Dalembert

Now the Nuggets add size and become an instant top 2 or 3 team in the west, if there is going to be a lockout next season why wouldnt the Nuggets front office just go all out in trying to win the last year of the NBA Finals…..Come on Kronke and Ujiri step your game up boys

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 15, 2011 5:41 PM MST reply actions  

not gonna happen

Stan is gonna cut payroll, that’s his prerogative right now

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 5:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Still a Possibility

I read on bleacher.com a report that nuggets officials were enthused about Melo’s recent comments about possibly resinging with Denver after this season and may be looking to aquire some big man help, the article had Denver linked to Pryzbilla and also Indiana reserve Center Jeff Foster im not really all that excited about Foster but he’d probably be a better fit than Bird Man

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 15, 2011 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

either of those are better than andersen

I still think shelly would help us out if he could get some damn playing time!!!!!

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 5:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Chris "Bird Tird" Anderson

I really like Shelly which is exactly why the nuggets should trade K-Mart he’s been the biggest overpayed athlete in my lifetime, I do admire K-Marts Defense and I dont believe the Nugs wouldve made it to the Western Conf Finals without him shutting down Dirk, but K-Mart was too short to help Denver against Pau, Lamar, and Andrew in the Finals, and the Bird Tird just flat out needs to get traded

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 15, 2011 6:05 PM MST up reply actions  

A few things

First off, a franchise tag isn’t going to solve the NBA’s problems. All a franchise tag really does is give you a little extra for your start leaving, but it doesn’t prevent them from doing so if that’s their goal. The NBA needs to figure out a way to lock down players in a certain location for an extended amount of time without the option of leaving. Whether that be through extra long contracts like baseball has implemented or something else, I don’t know, but the franchise tag alone isn’t going to do much.

In our case, the franchise tag could be nothing more than pure hell. Not only would we finish out this unbelievably painful season and exacerbate things even more, but we’d likely alienate tons of fans as well as our own players. Melo is NOT the Nuggets!!! The Denver Nuggets are a team! We do not live and die with Melo like the Cavs did with Lebron! So say we do keep him, then we’re stuck with the Melo Drama for the entire summer while the CBA is playing out, as well as a whole nother season after this?!? Count me out on that train, it’s simply not worth my time to pay attention to this team while we beg some overpaid primma donna to stay here so that everyone’s lives can just get worse than they already are. Is a few draft picks really worth it? I don’t think so at all. Trade him now, lower your asking price a bit, don’t trade Chauncey, and lets get this thing over.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 5:46 PM MST reply actions  

Screw the Knicks

If Melo is traded I really hope that it isnt to the Knicks, they are trying to give the Nuggets 50 cents for a dollar, wilson chandler and eddie curry, thats a joke, if the knicks were serious about aquiring melo they should make a serious offer, we’d need chandler and Gallinari as well as a quality center not some lardass who isnt even gonna play in eddie curry

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 15, 2011 6:01 PM MST reply actions  

for reals

It’s not like getting melo will really make them a contender anyways….. they need a real center more than they need melo imo

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

It's your FO's fault for not trading him to NJ

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by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 15, 2011 6:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Lets get a 7 ft center and keep Melo

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by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 15, 2011 6:29 PM MST reply actions  

Here is the deal...can't see why both teams wouldn't do it.

If it doesn’t happen then it means that Stan is really putting the screws to us.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Denver trades:

Melo,Ely

Denver Gets:
Gibson, Deng , Asik

Chicago trades:
Gibson, Askik, Deng

Chicago gets:
Melo and Ely

We would get defense, rebounding and shotblocking at the 4 like we used to have when Kmart was at a peak and a good solid all around player in Deng. Not worried about the cap room, we would save cap room from kmart coming off the books and a possible Chauncey trade.

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 7:00 PM MST reply actions  

Only way I trade melo to Chicago is if we get Noah without Noah involved there is no way I trade with Chicago, they shouldnt be so stubborn to move Noah for Melo, they would be getting a top 5 player in the league, its not like Noah is Dwight Howard or something

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 15, 2011 7:19 PM MST up reply actions  

What?

Noah is easily a 18-13 guy. Given the ball down low enough and no other rebounder on the team and he is a 20-15. Chicago won’t give him up though. I like the trade above, fills our needs very well.

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 7:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Melo and Ely 4 Deng and Noah, thats more realistic

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 15, 2011 7:20 PM MST up reply actions  

that's what we want but it ain't happening

gotta do the best you can. The Chicago option is still the best option in my opinion. We can’t trade for Noah unless the Bulls fold…I think they feel that with Noah they are already championship contenders they want to keep their defensive stalwart and size intact to compete with Boston and LA….if they can add Melo and keep Noah they would be a top contender.

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 7:32 PM MST up reply actions  

BTW, how awesome would the bulls be

with this lineup:

Anthony
Boozer
Noah
Bogans
Rose…

not only would this be the best trade but the Lakers and the Heat wouldn’t win the title.

by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 7:01 PM MST reply actions  

HA!

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by Kevin L on Feb 15, 2011 7:16 PM MST up reply actions  

yep

Not only would melo stay but the numbers work too!!!

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 7:32 PM MST up reply actions  

He would still want NY

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 7:40 PM MST up reply actions  

If we pulled that off....

WOWPeople talked about a Bynum/Nene front Court…a Howard Nene Front Court is even better. Nene would dominate the post with Howard lurking on the weak side. The 2 of them could easily average 10 assists a game combined and probably 20 boards.

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by The U.N. Fab Five on Feb 15, 2011 7:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Broussard just said on Fastbreak

That there’s a way better than 55% chance Melo gets traded and said he’s pretty sure he’ll go to the Knicks when it’s all said and done because Dolan wants Melo so bad. At the same time he said there are rumors that a franchise tag could be in place in the next CBA.

Bottom line is if can’t get a deal done simply because we’re asking too much then Ujiri needs to be relieved of his duties immediately because he clearly has no clue how to handle this position. If we chose to keep Melo in hopes of a franchise tag, then the Nuggets will lose a fan for the rest of this year.

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by GoldenNugget on Feb 15, 2011 8:47 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Will you still comment here?

Or at least on our other top secret place?

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by Army of Nugs on Feb 15, 2011 9:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Rec’d

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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

You Would Stop Watching the Nuggets Because the Nuggets Keep Melo???

That’s weird, dude. You need a break of the Melo blogs for a while…

by ACEIII on Feb 16, 2011 7:04 AM MST up reply actions  

idk why you guys want deng way too much money

we don t want to pay that much to a sf that’s not AS calibur, gibson is a nice player but again i’d rather spnd that money in FA. can t go in half assed on this,

we were asking too much from NJ, but not def not now, this thing pretty much had no shot of working out whn NJ left, and that’s whn the front office should have been fired, there was low hangin fruuit right there for them to grab and somehow they find a way to fuck it up, i don t evn… im stil goin WTF… it’s not like they couldn t see this comin, all the posters here did, and were anxiious on getting it dun.

i thnk why they dragged it out to the point of screwin it up was, because of their ego tryin to make power plays in a very delicate situation that could impIode on them at a momnts notice, and their stubbrness, hilariously thnkin they could how keep melo.

there are a lot of free agents to be had, i don t thnk buildin through the draft works that well, un less you’re pickin in the top 3 for a few season othrwise you have to have superior scoutin which we don t have.

by Rys on Feb 15, 2011 9:28 PM MST reply actions  

Don't worry stiffs...see below according to Reggie we still have leverage cuz

Bruce Arthur: Reggie Evans today: “I can’t see ‘Melo turning the money down. ’Melo’s from the hood.” Twitter
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by Bigdorph on Feb 15, 2011 9:45 PM MST reply actions  

Denver could easily drop to 10th in the Western Conference next 2 days

They are in the 8th spot now ahead of Utah by tiebreakers. March and April are just brutal… most games are on the road

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by runningdonut on Feb 15, 2011 10:08 PM MST reply actions  

but.....

If we win tomorrow and Utah and Portland lose, we’d be back in 6th

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 10:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Good point

I feel like we could have used a little cushion here with all the road games coming up. Utah and Portland also get to play at home tomorrow

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by runningdonut on Feb 15, 2011 10:22 PM MST up reply actions  

yea

At least Portland plays New Orleans so either one losing is good

by JBnuggs on Feb 15, 2011 10:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I like the idea of getting Mozgov

just because he sounds like a Thundercats villain.

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by CloudBurst on Feb 15, 2011 10:21 PM MST reply actions  

Also, recently ousted Nuggets basketball operations executive Brett Bearup still serves in an official capacity as an advisor to Stan Kroenke and multiple sources say Bearup has been and remains completely against trading Anthony to his preferred destination; at least not without the Nuggets walking away with an undisputable win
As for the Rockets, a source said they’re out. GM Daryl Morey gave it a look, thought perhaps the Yao Ming contract could make it happen, but a person with knowledge of the situation said Anthony has no interest in signing an extension there. The Rockets could just take him as a rental and work a sign-and-trade once he opts out, but, again, can Houston offer more value than even the Knicks’ lowest bid? Hardly. At this point, a source with knowledge of the situation said the biggest — and perhaps last — remaining threat to the Knicks could be the Dallas Mavericks. Though Mark Cuban hinted recently that he would be willing to trade for a superstar without an extension, the source said Anthony would be amenable to signing an extension with the Mavs, who are already a championship contender and yet have a huge hole at small forward after the injury to Caron Butler.
Talks between the Knicks and Nuggets are expected to carry through all-star weekend and things are expected to reach a boiling point by next Tuesday. “Don’t expect anything to happen before All-Star,” a source with knowledge of the situation told us. Hearing that was like being told the groundhog saw his shadow: Nine more days of Melopalooza.

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by VicTor W on Feb 15, 2011 11:15 PM MST reply actions  

Thanx Bigdorph: I have said many times that a Bulls deal would be ok

and I still believe it – here is what Bigdorph suggested

Denver trades:
Melo, Ely for Gibson, Deng , Asik

Deng’s deal is a factor, but any almost All-Star is going to make that kind of money under the new CBA anyway. This move (if available) would put Melo on a contender in a big market and allow the Nuggs to move forward with a lot more D and a lot less rebuilding.

by slader on Feb 16, 2011 4:36 AM MST reply actions  

That would be a great deal for the Bulls

I’m really indifferent towards Deng’s game and I don’t see him being a help to the Nuggets. When there’s talent around him he’s effective. When there isn’t talent he doesn’t make his teammates better; instead his game suffers
Deng is part of the NBA upper middle class that is the reason why the pay structure needs to change. LeBron Melo & Kobe should and will continue to get the top dollars; the KMarts and Dengs of the league need to stop
Blowing up and rebuilding a team from scratch… I’d stay away from Deng

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by the word on Feb 16, 2011 7:14 AM MST up reply actions  

If you give a Kronk a cookie...

The Nuggets whole negotiating style stinks of disingenuousness… or not having a clue

Especially with the Stan-ster rumors of chasing a franchise tag… instead of just making the effort and taking care of your team when you had the chance… it seems as though the Nugs have no intention on trading but hope instead to force Melo to stay and then surround him with cheap talent a la the Rox.

Then after torpedoing every trade scenario they step back and say “ah gee we really really tried”

What happens if/when the Knicks step up and say yes to Chandler, Gall, Felton, Curry, a 1st and Mozgov?

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by the word on Feb 16, 2011 7:22 AM MST reply actions  

Kronke is completely turned into a weak owner, ever since he traded Camby for a trade exemption that he never even used to improve the team… Its been a real disapointing past couple seasons being a nuggets fan their clear problem is they need to get bigger in their front court…even a blind man could see that, so why in the hell cant the nuggets front office see that

by Nuggets Fan #1 on Feb 17, 2011 3:23 AM MST up reply actions  

I still have difficutly in seeing Stern "stick it" to his elite players by allowing a franchise tag

For the bad and cheap owners like the Sterlings and Kronks of the league, the franchise tag makes sense to them so they can continue pretending to be NBA owners

But for the league driven by the best players, putting a rule in place that hurts them makes no sense

And the NBA is the league that when it has real superstars (Bird, Magic, Jordan / LeBron, Kobe, Melo) and the stars are happy, the league is hugely popular. When the league does not have real superstars (Iverson, Starbury) the league suffers

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