Golden Nuggets: NBA free agency officially opens today!
by Nate Timmons on Dec 9, 2011 8:37 AM MST
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PrintWelcome to the official opening of the NBA free agency period my fellow Stiffs! In less than four-hours, 12 p.m. MTN, players will be allowed to sign contracts with NBA teams. We shall find out soon the fates of Arron Afflalo, Nene, Gary Forbes, and many others. And how about that Lakers, Hornets, and Rockets trade that was cancelled late last night? Get ready for a wild ride!
Lots of people seem worried about the precedent set last night by the NBA when the league owners put pressure on David Stern to cancel the trade that would have sent Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers. Well, the only way the league was really able to do such a thing is because the 29 owners are in control of the New Orleans Hornets at the moment.
But is that the only way this happened? All trades must be reviewed by the league office, so could more trades in the future be blocked? Here is my problem with the league blocking this particular trade:
- The Hornets did a good job making the Lakers give up their second and third leading scorers; who also double as 2/3 of the team's seven footer squad. This trade made the Lakers a much different team and the Lakers gave up actual players to do the deal.
- The Hornets got some good value in return in Lamar Odom and then shipping Pau Gasol to the Rockets in exchange for Goran Dragic, Kevin Martin, Luis Scola and at least one first round pick (the Knicks 2012 pick). NOLA could have easily flipped Odom and Scola for more assets this season as both guys have tons of value for a team in contention of the title.
- Does the league just want to see Chris Paul sign with the Lakers, Knicks, or some other market in the off-season without the Hornets getting any value for him? If that is the case, they need to contract the team in NOLA ASAP as they will not survive losing CP3 for nothing.
Strange times.
Lost in the shuffle are two things.
- Dwight Howard has asked to be traded to the New Jersey Nets; in exchange the Nets will send their poo-poo platter offer to the Magic.
- FREE AGENCY OPENS IN LESS THAN FOUR HOURS!!!!
Morning Links:
Chadler expected to sign with Knicks - Alan Hahn, Newday
The deal for Tyson Chandler is expected to be 4-years and $58 million. Chauncey Billups is expected to be amnestied and will be auctioned off to the highest bidder.
Cavs owner wanted trade blocked - Yahoo! Sports
The email that Cavs owner Dan Gilbert sent to David Stern about the Chris Paul trade. Good stuff.
With Chris Paul Trade Veto, David Stern Allows NBA Owners To Become Cannibals - Tom Ziller, SB Nation
A good breakdown of the ramifications of the disallowed CP3 deal.
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Seemed like a very fair trade for NO to me. Very bad trade for the rest of the NBA if the Lakers were also able to set up a Dwight Howard trade, but that doesn’t appear to be the case. The Chris Paul situation is different than the previous one’s because the NO franchise has major problems just staying in business. They are never going to be able to survive in that location.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 8:45 AM MST reply actions
I agree with this other
…it was a pretty fair trade. Certainly as “fair” as the Melo deal, especially with the picks.
Much worse
Than the Melo trade because there was no young talent coming back. I am certain NOLA could do better. Getting good players like Gasol, Odom, Scola, etc. doesn’t help them much because they are not going to make them contendors. And while they could flip them, Demps had gone ahead and flipped the best piece, Gasol, for more older players and crappy draft picks.
Brandon Roy retiring
obviously due to his knees. Could have been an all time great player.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 8:46 AM MST reply actions
class and excelence take a walk
what a darn shame
Agreed. Good kid.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss.
Damn, always liked Roy even when he was smoking our Nuggs
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
Other than supposed interest...
There’s been precious little news about Nene’s intentions.
Tell me that’s a very good thing, please?
Well, with the Rockets not landing Pau Gasol, the Rockets pitch to Nene has drastically changed. So that may help the Nuggets cause. … that is if Nene actually was considering going there.
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To me, it is good news
…means Nuggets are heavily involved because they never say anything.
We will know soon
Maybe the Nuggets are just following the no handshake role the NBA said last week. At least publicly.
Crazy day it will be. Agents, players, lawyers.. oh my!
nene will probably wait to sign
to see if the gasol trade is pushed back through? i can’t imagine he goes to the rockets if it isn’t, but i think it’s probable if it is approved.
by mr. eggplant on Dec 9, 2011 10:01 AM MST up reply actions
Chauncey
I just hate to see how he has been bounced around in the last 1/2 year. I hope he ends up winning a championship this year.
Not in Miami please
I would truly hate to see him in Miami if he is amnestied. He’s still got some gas in the tank, hopefully somebody would claim him. He could be a backup 2 in Denver.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 9:02 AM MST up reply actions
What about as a Laker??
Fisher is done and CB is essentially the same type player with a better shot and better handle
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GALLLLLLLLLLOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 9, 2011 9:04 AM MST up reply actions
And can actually creat his own shot.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss.
Well again
He would probably be claimed by Charlotte or Detroit before he could make it to LA. I actually think he wouldn’t mind another stint in Detroit, but we won’t be winning anything and he knows it.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
NBA Just stalling..
I think the NBA was just stalling Paul so the Lakers wouldn’t get both Howard and Paul. Once Howard goes to the Nets.. Paul to the Lakers. They world will stop screaming and the NBA super powers will be set..
And the Nugget underdog role will be reaffirmed. Just how big of an underdog is determined by Nene and AAA at this point.
Interesting theory
Meanwhile, Knicks killed any last chance of going after Paul by signing Chandler. I’m sure they figured Paul to LA was a done deal.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
Interesting
idea, dont now if it was worth it to the NBA to do this much damage to its reputation just to slow things down.
Honestly, id rather face the lakers with paul, bynum, and kobe, than with kobe, bynum, gasol, and odom
i'm calling it
knicks will send turiaf + shumpert to Denver for a 2nd round pick to clear cap space.
It sounds like the plan was the Lakers
with a tpe from the Paul trade. The failure (however temporary) of the Lakers trade could screw up Melo. Loving it.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 9:03 AM MST up reply actions
I don't doubt it
But what are the Nuggets gaining from that?
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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How was baseball?
Insomnia cured?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 9:06 AM MST up reply actions
You shut your mouth :P
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Nate’s got a date!
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Dec 9, 2011 9:20 AM MST up reply actions
Creepy
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Bob in Boulder saying Nate has a date with apparently the
girl from the “Friday” video.
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Me saying it isn’t creepy. The thought of Nate having it is creepy. Right? I was only trying to be funny. Not creepy.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Dec 9, 2011 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
It's all creepy
all of it!!!
:)
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In retrospect, I agree.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Dec 9, 2011 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
for some reason I thoroughly enjoyed this
no pedo.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 9, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
according to sportsline.com
•The Raptors will deal Mickael Pietrus to the Raptors for a second-round pick according to the Toronto Star.
the fallout after the nixed paul trade! lol!
Wow
Raptors trade Pietrus to the Raptors! Big Trade!
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 9:28 AM MST up reply actions
Lance Armstrong:
I felt the same way when I was diagnosed with Lung, Skin, and testicular cancer, but im sure your deal is tougher.
Vince:
It feels a little like regret
Lance Armstrong:
Well good luck, I’m sure this decision won’t haunt you forever
after all
if you never gave up when your friends needed you most, you wouldn’t have anything to regret for the rest of your life.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 9, 2011 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
Danny Granger
…changing his name to “Sterns Bitch”. That’s kind of funny. Stern really f’d this one up.
The fallout will be interesting. What is the point of hte NO Hornets now? They are DOA. Fold them.
I think Nene was looking to see what happened in Houston before making a decision. With no potential Charmin towers, he is more likely to land back in Denver.
My apologies Nate
…see you made a similar comment above.
This reminds me
of the Juwan Howard situation. Occasionally the league has to step in and eff something up.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 9:30 AM MST up reply actions
This is just different with the NBA owning the team...
… if Joe Schmo owned the Hornets and wanted to do this, this trade would be out of control.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
then that should have been clear long ago
that owners would have a say in hornets transactions. this whole situation is fucked up.
Agreed Mancar
You lose a very good big AND a productive big for a great guard, why would lakers do that?
You can start a team with Gasol and Odom, put a star around them (like Kobe) and you got yourself a contender. What are the Lakers thinking and why would the NBA object.
The Hornets made out like bandits in this deal.
I’m pretty confused. The trade in which the Lakers landed Gasol should have been vetoed. The one last night? Notsomuch. Stern is a weird crook.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
NBA didn't own the Grizzlies
Each one of the NBA owners pitched in to buy the Hornets, so they all feel they have a say, even thought Demps is supposed to have power. Stern screwed Demps.
FYI – the Girzzlies trade actually worked out okay for both teams, so you never can tell.
No, the Grizzlies still got hosed
How many titles do they have as a result? And the Lakers?
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 9:31 AM MST up reply actions
Lakers were one piece away
The Grizzlies weren’t going anywhere and now have a competitive team with a Gasol on the rise (assuming they resign him). It wasn’t as one sided as it once looked.
That's my point
…so the league shouldn’t veto a trade unless it is absolutely crazy.
Titles are now how you judge trades.
The reality is that Memphis wasn’t anywhere close to winning a title with Pau Gasol.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I think the make I'd offer Nene is
5yr/75 million…
That 5th year I’m hoping will be the ace in the hole
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If Nene and AAA are signed
let us say at Nene with 14 mil a year and AAA at 8.5, how much would that leave us to spend for another free agent?
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
We’re a mile below the salary floor right now, aren’t we? With only 7 players signed?
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Dec 9, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
Make a run for Dwight Howard
Lots of a draft picks, Mozgov, Gallinari, Faried and 4 1st round picks…
Championship here we come!!!!!!
/crack pipe
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On the Paul trade and fallout
Agree or disagree, it brings the NBA into disrepute. It just looks bad from all angles.
I can’t say this enough, Stern has got to go.
Did you all read Simmon’s rant on Grantland this morning? I largely agree.
I also agree with Gilbert’s big issues with the trade. Something sure seemed fishy to me from the get go, and he and others smelled it.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
by Fly Agaric on Dec 9, 2011 9:48 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
This, Rec'd
No matter the legality of it, the league already has a black eye from the lockout and now this?
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
And don't forget the Howard-Nets tampering fiasco!
It just keeps getting worse.
Stern has got to go.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Yup
He may have ‘turned around the league’ years ago, but now he’s holding it back. Stern needs to step out of the way.
Here in US, you watch NBA; in Soviet Russia, NBA watch you! - LACKov Smirnoff
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
The nets tampering with Howard is somehow Stern's fault?
There is another team involved in the tampering as well.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
Not quite that simple
The point is the lockout solved none of the problems is professed to be about: crazy player movement, collusion, out-of-control salaries, owners being stupid with money, small market teams being bamboozled by big ones.
The Paul trade and the tampering stuff just shows that the NBA has a ton of lingering problems. A ton. As a fan of basketball, it kills me that the pro league is such a shit show. And Stern is the man in charge and, ultimately, the responsible party. He best be done by the end of this season.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Man, the shit is really flying now, new updates every few minutes
Crazy day!
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
Huh?
IamThaKing25 Brandon Rush
Who’s reporting to the Nuggets training camp??
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Never mind.
RT @IamThaKing25 @AyyMakalena just asking they don’t have many players under contract
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Or course it won't.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
11am left coast time
noon mountain. i may be off by an hour…
Grant Hill back to the Suns.
All the SF options drying up. Plus, I wonder if that means he got some assurance that Nash won’t be traded? Hm.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
I like this.... tho I figured it would happen
Nash, the only reason for fans to come out. Suns gonna suck, but looking forward to a high pick.
So sad about the Suns
Once one of my favorite franchises not in Denver. They were robbed by the NBA in that series against the Spurs three or four years ago. Such BS, that.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
One of my most memorable playoff games
That 2-OT one between the Suns and Spurs where Duncan hits a 3 to force 2-OT, and then Nash hits a fall away 3 in 2-OT to tie it up before Ginobili hits the game winning layup.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Yes! I remember that.
I love basketball. Such a shame the pro league is such a joke.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I want Ill Will bought out from China too.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
Guess we can kiss this dream good-bye.
RT @warriorsworld Warriors offering DeAndre Jordan $10mil in the 1st yr of a deal? I rather just keep Biedrins than pay that much to Jordan
Not that it was really likely in the first place, but still.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Eeek
Oh well. I just want Denver to re-sign Nene and AAA. Anything after that is gravy.
Getting rid of Al somehow would be cool. But. Whatev.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
If we can re-sign Nene and AAA
and still have around 5mil in cap left over, we could amnesty Al and be able to offer a similar deal. I don’t remember the exact numbers, but I think it’s possible.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
We'll have $5 million left
That we have to spend to get 85 percent. We can still go over a bit. Denver is in good shape.
But Jordan really only interested me if Nene doesn’t re-sign. All I think Denver needs aside from the two I mentioned is a solid back-up wing player.
Kinda miss J.R. Smith here.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
He's toxic
I want nothing to do with a player who is afraid to touch the ball on the offensive end. He has some serious mental problems as well. Young Beidrins had so much potential, somehow, through some strange trauma, he ended up scared of the ball.
Any team who picks him up is going to have to invest good money in a sports therapist.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I don't want a player on our team
who I can shoot free throws better than.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
I would say he is more afraid to defend,
his offense is what he is known for. Still if the price was right i would put in a claim
Oh, I was talking about Beidrens.
Should have been more clear. I don’t know enough about Ibaka’s issues on defense to offer an armchair diagnosis. But Beidrins? Ug.
Russians seem to have some problems in the NBA. I mean, Kirilenko didn’t quite develop and he has some emotional issues. I hope Moz is a little mentally tougher.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Biedrens is Latvian, yes?
Soviet satellite is close enough, though.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
Phew... thought you meant Ibaka at first
Wasn’t aware of this. Maybe still worth a flyer. Nuggets good with creating upside.
Okay, I'm totally confused by this whole
collective ability of the owners to make this decision about the trade. I thought the NBA was in possession of the team, not the owners…..
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I didn't think so.
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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The league is run by Stern and consists of the 30 team owners
But in this case the league only has 29 owners, since team #30, New Orleans, is owned by the other 29 teams. So they do have VETO power.
But I don't understand why the own the Hornets.
When the Dodgers were on the brink the MLB took possession of the team. Did that mean the other MLB teams owned the Dodgers?
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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Yes
They could not identify an owner, so they either have to contract the team or the league, and all the other owners, take a portion of the share of ownership.
Okay thanks
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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Wrong
Mccourt still owned the dodgers and still to this day does, but MLB took over day to day control of the dodgers.
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by Army of Nugs on Dec 9, 2011 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
The 29 owners all own a stake in the Hornets
And since they want to recoup their investment, they know they need to get good value for Paul if they are going to make the Hornets an appealing team for some buyer somewhere.
I don’t think this was motivated by Laker hate and fear of Howard ended up there — though that was likely part of it — but a legit concern that the trade really wasn’t that good, long term, for the Hornets.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I agree
I know there is a bunch of so called experts on BSPN saying that this trade was good for the Hornets, but I disagree to a large extent. Even though CP3 is leaving, and they may get nothing in return, so the thought is get something for him, there is still time. Just as we learned with Melo last year, sometimes the offers get better with time.
NO was taking back an awful lot of salary in this deal.
Lakers trade = Not the best trade they could've gotten imo.
Heck, I’d prefer CP3 to the Clippers for Kaman and Minnesota’s 1st Rounder. And if they can get the Clippers 1st rounder as well, hell, that’s a steal.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
If Masai Ujiri pulls some sneaky dealing today I think he
will be certified for the GM of the future. I think he has some sneaky plans up his sleeves.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
Tell me more about this guy
I’m not so familiar. I would like the take of other Stiffs.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
i'm not really either
but he sounds like a defensive rebounding specialist. can’t really shoot.
he’s african which could be a reason Masai is interested
Fairly decent player
Still young, which is important. Good defender, decent size. If cheap, why not?
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
I keep saying...
Denver needs a backup wingman. He’s more of a PF type than a scoring PG/SG, but I won’t quibble. There is a need for a tough as nails defender with K-Mart on Chinese vacation.
I just fear this creates a logjam at PF with Nene and Faried.
Of course, we could just slide Nene over to center…
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
We could potentially get Mbah a Moute actually.
Forgot they just signed Dunleavy yesterday. Checked out an article on Brew Hoop from, got this quote:
While there have been strong indications that the Bucks would like to re-sign Luc Mbah a Moute and keep former second round picks Darington Hobson and Jon Leuer, Milwaukee also remains in need of a backup center and was short on wing shooters just a day before camp and free agency were set to open on Friday. Dunleavy fills the latter hole and figures to challenge Carlos Delfino for the starting small forward position, and all at a rather reasonable, low-risk price of $7.5 million over two years. He also provides cover in the event that Luc Mbah a Moute signs an offer sheet outside of the Bucks’ comfort zone. I won’t go so far as to say the Dunleavy move precludes Luc’s return, but it certainly doesn’t help.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
strong defender
put him together with AAA and nene- we’ve got ourselves a top ten defense for years to come
BREAKING:
Explosive new from ESPN http://www.nba.com/2011/news/12/09/magic-tampering-charge/index.html
Aldridge: Magic considering filing tampering charges
By David Aldridge, TNT analyst
Posted Dec 9 2011 11:53AM
NYETS got caught... From Chris Broussard
Dwight Howard met with NJ owner Mikhail Prokhorov & GM Billy King Thurs night in Miami, sources say. Orlando was unaware if meeting
Meeting was violation of NBA tampering rules.
MOZGOD Member #35
Looks to me
The owners that were not happy with the CBA deal are trying to take back power through other means.
clearly, not everyone was on board with the final decision. Chickens ruling the hen house. Stern, get your house in order.
It is ugly all day.
Good lord, things are getting weirder by the day.
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
What? Corruption involving a super rich Russian in New Jersey? Who would have thunk it?
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Dec 9, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
Those jokes about his armory not looking so funny now, huh?
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Da, comrade
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
League will nix that, too
If tampering charges prove to be correct.
Holy shitload of a terrible way to start the season, Batman.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
What did they expect?
There is such a short window to sign players, start campe and get the season going.
I do think the tamperiing rules are a bit extreme
Not to mention there is a code to circumvent them anyway.
Still. The league continues to look like a joke and make me sad.
:(
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
How are they extreme?
As recently as a couple of days ago, Howard was apparently fairly open to staying in Orlando. He meets with the owner of the Nets, then suddenly demands a trade to the Nets. That’s the definition of tampering. Why should that be allowed?
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
"Fairly Open"
Kind of like Melo was fairly open to signing with the Nuggets?
Never going to happen.
There was no tampering for God sakes.
Prokhorov was on TV in Russia yesterday.
It take 9 hours each way to fly to the USA on his Gulfstream V.
His flight plan shows he left the USA on 11/30/11.
He’s untouchable. I still firmly believe in the video evidence that he fixed the Ewing draft, and he was never called for it.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Dec 9, 2011 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
yep
this is finally it. point of no return.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 9, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
RT @NYDNInterNets SOURCE: Nets are closing in on Nene after upping the offer last night. Went hard after the center after Chandler went to the Knicks
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"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Nene is so obviously the backup plan for dwight
can’t believe he doesn’t see that and isn’t “disrespected”
Man, just rumors on rumors on rumors.
RT @SpearsNBAYahoo Celtics trading F Glen Davis in sign and trade to Magic for F Brandon Bass, source tells @YahooSports.
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"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Also,
Tyson Chandler apparently official to the Knicks.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
and now that League blocked trade
NYKs priced them out of 2012 Paul FA
I guess I just don't understand the motivation
of guys like Pujols and Tyson Chandler leaving teams that just won championships.
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"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Last I checked
The team with the bird rights can offer the most money.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Then again, there's the market
But I can’t see Tyson Chandler being as popular during “Fashion Week” as Amare is.
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They can, but don't have to
Dallas doesn’t want Chandler back. They are saving cap space for next year rahter than making another run this year. Dallas made that decision.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
It's been 15 minutes since the last rumor
or bit of news. I’m getting antsy.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Here's a fun one.
RT @sam_amick Meanwhile – and ironically enough – there are indications that Nene is leaning toward New Jersey. @NYDNInternets hearing same.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
*sigh*
But…. Two weeks ago I was totally resigned to the Nuggets without Nene.
I can handle it if he leaves. Just have no idea where the front office is going to spend all that money. They are going to have to overpay someone. And there just isn’t much out there that I like, alas.
At least when it comes to big name players who could eat up the requisite salary.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Maybe after all this, Howard and Paul will say screw it...
…we’re going to Denver. Nice and quiet, no problems, just want to win.
Honestly, I won't be that sad if we lose Nene
He’s a good guy and the best FA center in the league (this year), but I’m sick of his mentality after 8 years here.
If he goes, the Nuggets have got to accept the writing on the wall for this season, resign Afflalo, amnesty Harrington, and go 12-54 for the 2012 draft.
by Colin Neilson on Dec 9, 2011 11:04 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought Nene wanted respect
He is only getting chased because they can’t get Dwight Howard. He is getting no respect from the Nets either.
Damn you you hypocrite!
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
He wants out of Denver
More than he wants respect
by Colin Neilson on Dec 9, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
Nene for
Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Pau Gasol, and Deron Williams.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
Got to tweet it for it to be true
Get on it
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by Army of Nugs on Dec 9, 2011 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
I say let him go if that's what he want
I’ll take a high draft pick if it comes to that… loaded with BIGS
As an aside...
There is no way Denver is losing Afflalo particularly with our SG situation. If Masai lets him get away there will be riots
Yeah that would be a scary frontcourt
Have fun playing against that, Melo!
by Colin Neilson on Dec 9, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
Maybe
Gotta “substantiate” them first, the qualifications for that could range from very easy to very difficult
by Colin Neilson on Dec 9, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
Was thre really a trade in place?
Dwight can demand all he wants, but ifthe Magic are not going to make the trade, there is nothing that can be done.
although
Steve Kyler: If nets sign Nene with cap space, they would have no room to take on Hedo Turkoglu’s deal as Nets offer is reported. 4 minutes ago
Ya
That is what I was thinking. How can NJ trade for DHoward if they sign Nene. Plus…with the tampering charges filed against NJ, do we really honestly think Orlando and NJ do business with one another now??
Nene and Howard aren't going to be on the same team
No way.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Bring on the Lawson/Afflalo/Faried/Gallinari/Mozgov lineup
Backing up:
Miller
Amnestied Billups (lol) (but really Denver needs another SG in a bad way)
Hamilton
Andersen
Koufus
10 wins
gives us better position for the draft lottery.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I don't disagree
but Denver will not be that bad, even if they lose Nene.
We have to sign someone regardless to get to the cap floor, and even with the talent we have, we will be an OK team
Ok, 15 games
Look at that line up again. It is either inexperienced or washed up,with the exception of AAA, Ty and Gallo. Nene and a very good 6th man make all the difference.
15 wins this year equates to about 20 normally
so I guess it is possible they are that bad. I just don’t see it. Even with the team they currently have signed, our back court is still amazing with Ty, Miller, and AAA. Guard play goes a long way to success in this league. We have a good player in Gallo who could become even better this year, we have Harrington who can still score, we have two 7 footers plus Bird, and we have two rookies who could have an impact.
Plus, if Nene goes, we have to sign others just to get to the cap floor. So there will be other talent plus the talent I listed above. I still think the minimum this team wins this year is 30. .500 this year is 33 wins
Anthony Davis
would be a great Nene replacement
Good?
If so, I’m fine with that, short season with an amazing 2012 draft class so the Nuggets get a high pick with plenty of space.
But on the flipside people don’t seem to get how much weaker the West is. Melo’s gone. Yao’s gone. Lakers are getting old but still the favorites. Roy is retiring. Deron is gone.
Other than the Lakers and OKC, who is considered a force in the West?
by Colin Neilson on Dec 9, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
Dallas and San Antonio
maybe not forces in the west, but playoff locks for sure.
So lets assume Denver brings back Afflalo
We need a backup SG desperately. I know Thaddeus Young and Luc Mbah-a-Moute has been brought up. Are those our targets?
Besides...
we all know that Karl will play Ty and Miller at the same time, so a 3 guard rotation of AAA, Ty, and Miller will tie (TY) up the majority of the 96 guard minutes.
Concerning Nene...
NetsDaily doesn’t believe a word of this rumor.
They claim Bondy get’s his info from them, haha.
I still think
Nene will be back. Colorado is home, he loves his teammates, him and Karl have a bond, should I go on? I would be shocked if he felt that disrespected that he decides to sign elsewhere.
I hope you are right junkie
He still has a chance to play with a good C in Lopez and PG in Williams, but Denver is not chopped liver either.
I really want the Paul trade to go through, D12 to go to NJ and Nene to sign in Denver. It would be perfect for Denver.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Houston, Indiana, and GS
Dont make any sense at all for Nene, but NJ does. But in order to get D12, they can’t chase Nene because they need to take the Turk’s contract.
So our hope is ESPN doesn’t rule it tampering like when Dolan and Amare recruited Melo. Why did no one talk about that tampering???
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
I meant NBA over ESPN lol.
Watching too much ESPN right now and hearing too many Laker sympathizers, it’s sickening.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
because the whole league
is corrupt… Stern wants a 3 team league in NY, LA, Miami…. he doesn’t like these bottom feeders like NJ and Clips getting in his way
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 11:38 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Chasing Nene helps them get Howard
Having a alternative gives them leverage.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
Me too
Masai won’t blink
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
HHHMMMMMM.......
Probasketballtalk had Bondy’s thing on their free agency thread. Now they have removed it without commenting on why…..
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
picking up Chauncey is the worst idea ever
love the guy, but he is incompatible with this team. you think the reason we started playing better as a team was just cause we lost melo? no it’s cause we lost both of them. the offense can actually move the ball now and andre miller will fit in well. he’s a very underrated pg.
also there's no questions that this is lawson's team now
miller is not the type of guy to take over like chauncey would
He'd be the backup 2
and third point guard. Would you rather have AC in the roll? Cause that’s what would happen.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
Do you think Chauncey
Would like coming off the bench?
I don’t, and I know AC loves coming off the bench, Karlloves that.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
yea i can't envision him
coming off the bench. and his game is predicated on having the ball in his hands. he’s not an off the ball 2 guard. he’s some kind of hybrid PG/SG which is the last thing we want. I’d rather have Miller come off the bench and kick start the offense with some oops to Bird and Faried.
Chauncey wouldn't accept that role
He’s a leader, to a fault.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
I asked this late last night on the last thread
What exactly does NJ have to offer for Dwight? Dwill’s not going anywhere, Lopez isn’t near enough, and all other assets were used to get Dwill. I don’t see Dwight going there-Orlando can do much better. Depending on how this Paul thing shakes out, I still think he goes to LA.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 9, 2011 11:26 AM MST reply actions
The biggest things they offer are
1. Brook Lopez
2. The ability to take back Hedo’s terrible contract
I am sure NJ will throw in some other assets, future picks (whatever they can come up with), but taking on Hedo’s contract is huge for giving Orlando future flexibility.
Pooh
I got to go to work at a job that doesn’t allow me to sit behind a computer.
Can’t wait to catch up on all the shit that goes down in the next six hours or so.
Have a feeling that Ujiri is going to come up with some sort of crazy blockbuster deal and half of the rumors will prove to be just that. Most of the wheeling and dealing is being done in the quiet, away from leaks and Twitter. That’s how Stan and Ujiri operate.
Cheers.
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man not the news i wanted to hear on day 1
Nene goimg to Nets and Nuggets adding Maba Mushu Moute or whatever his name is. I was hoping to see offer sheets in on Young and Jordan. Guess gotta wait and see what happens with Nene but hes goint to New Jersey
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That report about the nets
may be BS. probasketballtalk pulled it from their site. Not optimistic on Nene, but the nets thing may not be real. Could easily be leverage in talks with Orlando. Same as the tampering charges give orlando leverage.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
i see i see
any news on AAA?
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
Maba Mushu Moute?
From Bekibekistanstan? You still riding that Herman Cain train? ; )
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
as a matter of fact
wrote a 10 page paper on him in my poly com class, got a 94 on it and in turn aced the class. Very interesting dude Mr. Cain is but an idiot at that.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
Imagine there's no pizza...
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 1:49 PM MST up reply actions
WAT?WAT?WAT?
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i have a feeling
Nene is gone
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
Oh I took it that this had already happened.
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no not yet
i hope not but we shall see soon
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
You are going to make SD cry
meany.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
haha
was optimistic yesterday… not so much today
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
Can't sign Jordan
He is washed up and owns the bobcats.
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by Army of Nugs on Dec 9, 2011 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
Offical statement on the Paul fiasco
This just released from the NBA league office.
In response to inquiries, NBA Commissioner David Stern released the following statement:
Since the NBA purchased the New Orleans Hornets, final responsibility for significant management decisions lies with the Commissioner’s Office in consultation with team chairman Jac Sperling. All decisions are made on the basis of what is in the best interests of the Hornets. In the case of the trade proposal that was made to the Hornets for Chris Paul, we decided, free from the influence of other NBA owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of the terms of that trade."
WOW
Most would disagree, and that explanation will not sit well with anyone. We haven’t heard the last of this.
Then why give Demps any power at all?
They knew he was wheeling and dealing in a tight window. WTF?
wow is right
it feels like he’s given up.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 9, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions
Until Chris leaves in FA in a few months? What a farce
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Wait, the trade window opened this morning and closes this afternoon?
I didn’t know that, holy smokes. No wonder everything is crazy today.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
What are you talking about?
Trades in BB can happen any time up until trade deadline. Are you saying the trade deadline is today? That makes no sense.
He's referring to noon mountain time
when signings can happen officially.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions
Ah, ok. Thanks.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
Brilliant move of the day
Charlie Bell arrested at court today. Had to go for a DUI. Decided to show up for court drunk. How much do you want to bet he drove himself there.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 11:57 AM MST reply actions
Holy crap. Dumbest. Criminal. EVER
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prediction
AAA resigns
Nene to Houston
Thadeus Young here
Mushu Mato Meal here
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
source?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
Latest maybe news from Woj and Spears
The New Jersey Nets are preparing to offer a four-year, $60 million-$65 million contract to free-agent center Nene, aggressively pushing to steal him away from the Denver Nuggets, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Nets general manager Billy King was expected to present the offer to Nene’s agent Dan Fegan on Friday.
F
Looks like the only way Nene stays here is 7 years 75 mil
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
Well we can offer him 5 years
Not 7, let’s see what happens.
It’s seems the Nets are done chasing Howard
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
yea meant 5 years
my b
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Nuggets at 5 and 75
15 million a year.
One thing that we underestimate is the pride factor. I don’t think Josh and Co. want to trade Melo, and less then a year later get stuck in the lottery. They want a good product and, as long as there is cap room, they will pay for it.
yea but
5 year 75 mil may be a poor decision with a big man in his 30’s with history of injury problems
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
Definately an "iffy" decision
…but I would not be surprised.
yea i wouldn't be either
if I were Josh i would prob let him walk and then focus on Thad and other pieces
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
Denver should not do that deal
4/60 is plenty. Nene can enjoy the armpit of the nation for that money for all I care
by Colin Neilson on Dec 9, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
I kinda agree
I love Neñe, but am not sure he’s worth that much dough.
I still say TANK
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 12:09 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Masai and Josh
Should get the sense from educated Denver fans that we wouldn’t be upset if they tanked this season. That should be the only fear, that fans lose interest. Let Nene walk. I’m surprised in myself for wanting him gone, considering I do think highly of him. But he is injury-prone and unassertive. Don’t K-Mart this one.
What I don't understand is if they can't get D12 I. A trade they can wait it out and
Sign him the following season with DWill.
I think they are giving D12’s money to Nene right now.
I don’t know if that is what they want.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
orlando Won't pursue tampering charges
D12 to NJ still a possibilty.
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 12:13 PM MST via mobile reply actions
So.... The Knicks are intending to offer Chandler
a contract reported to be between $55.5 and $58 million, starting at $14.
However Posting and Toasting is reporting
Update: Howard Beck: “Tyson Chandler deal will be done today, w/Billups amnestied, according to source. Not clear where Turiaf going yet, but he’ll be traded.”Also:
Update: Beck again: Knicks have about 5 scenarios in play for trading Turiaf to clear more cap room for Tyson Chandler. One of them gets done today, I’m told.
Update: ESPN’s Tim McMahon: Tyson Chandler confirms on ESPN 103.3’s Ben and Skin Show that he’s agreed with the Knicks. NO sign-and-trade with the Mavs.
He was more highly valued than Nene, actually
For his defensive ability in the middle and generally.
He had a bigger offer of $16 mil he turned down to go to the Knicks.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions
There is no way
he is worth that amount- limited offensive threat. He has defense, but they have no backcourt and no flexibility now!!!! I love New York!
Ken-Yan Mar-Tin
remember that? yea have fun with that situation New York
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
Plus
Stoudemire is going to be all pissed off because they tried to trade him to NO for Chris Paul. Welcome to disfunctiontown, NY.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
i hope that's the case
Melo can get a taste of his own medicine
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
i hope
if he leaves i will be irate
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
i know idk what's going to happen
especially since he’s regarded as the best SG on the market… usually people wait on players like him to sign.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
Anybody know the rules of trading amnestied players?
Could the nugs put in claims on all amnestied players, then trade them to teams over the cap?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 12:27 PM MST reply actions
don't believe so
once a player is amnestied i don’t think he can be traded once he is picked up. I suggested this earlier with Brandon Roy going to Chicago before he decided to retire. I think there is a rule preventing this.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
Woj on Big Baby
SpearsNBAYahoo:
New Orlando Magic forward Glen Davis getting a four-year deal paying in $26 million range, source tells
i think Big Baby
is absolute garbage
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
He always seems
to come up big though in big moments.
can't stand him
i think he is terrible at basketball. And he literally has a 1 inch vertical
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
He's a decent player.
That’s about it though, decent.
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if he was on the Nuggets
I would refuse to watch everytime he was on the court
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
Now now,
let’s not let irrational hatred seep through here.
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"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
It's not like he's Anthony Carter
At least if he was on the nuggets, he couldn’t be part of a 5 guard lineup.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
Timmons tweets
Nets prepping 4yr/$60M-$65M offer for Nene. #Nuggets extension b4 lockout was 4yr/$50M … not a big increase to match if he wants to stay.
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Knicks fans
are already cueing the lights for their banner to be raised. LOLOLOLOL!!!!! completely overrated move.
No, listen, Landry Fields is the next Stockton, and,
by Colin Neilson on Dec 9, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
And Shumoert is the second coming of Michael Jordan
Well have fun NYK.
I really love that 2014 pick right now :)!!!
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
counting on Baron Davis
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
If they are smart
They go after Jamal Tinsley, always a decent guard that could be had for cheap and provide thema solid option.
nuggets have to planning something semi-big no?
with money to spend and radio silence from execs, maybe they are planning a big move? paul to LA move came out of no where yesterday. i think media is used as a tool to sway GMs/public in certain ways, but real dealing can happen in back alleys without anyone finding out. i think nuggets FO is sneaky like that.
But what could they possibly be planning
I do hope you’re right. But even using my crazy optimistic imagination, I cannot think of a big move the Nuggets are ina position to make considering the players available.
Marcus Thronton
4 years 40 mil…. whoa
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Sounds about right.
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we didn't offer that did we?
please tell me we didn’t
no no no sacto did
with Evans and Jimmer… doesn’t make sense to me
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
Sacto
TERRIBLE offer, oh my god that is horrible
by Colin Neilson on Dec 9, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
Even better.
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Right? Thornton is in no way worth 8m/yr
by Colin Neilson on Dec 9, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
You kidding?
He’s young, got tons of upside, can average 20 ppg, and the only real problem is that that backcourt is crowded. Get rid of Salmons and give the minutes to Thornton and this is a beautiful contract, worth every penny (barring injury or whatnot).
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and what do you do with
Evans who they said want to make him the 2, not the point and Jimmer?
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:46 PM MST up reply actions
Jimmer probably won't be ready
To start as a rookie. Thornton produced, albeit on a terrible team still.
Split the minutes among the 3 of them?
Either way Jimmer probably doesn’t start yet. Btw, in a league where Rip Hamilton makes $12mil this year, Ben Gordon makes $11 mil, Jason Terry makes $11, and Al Harrington eats burgers, this is a perfectly fine deal.
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Doesn't make sense to me
unless they plan on trading Tyreke to us for Gallo traight up =)
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
And none of those deals
are good ones! Except maybe Terry, as he proved his worth all the way to the finals last year.
This Jason Terry?
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by CombatChuk on Dec 9, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Those were the days. Man that was fun.
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by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
+∞
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Just throw me some reccage :)
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Rec whoring? ;)
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Well I mean if I'm getting a
+1 infinity why shouldn’t a get a rec too…just sayin’’’
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by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2011 1:04 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunately, that will be Ujiri's expression
when he has to pay Al Harrington even more to get to the 85% floor after we lose Nene and AAA.
Yes, the resident pessimist is back.
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by margabelle on Dec 9, 2011 1:09 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
He reminds me too much of a less talented JR smith - streaky on O, terrible on D, meh everywhere else
by Colin Neilson on Dec 9, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
More like JJ Reddick and Adam Morrison
I think he will be somewhere between those guys. You have to be athletic in the NBA or have a unique skillset (a big guy who can shoot a la Nowtizki).
Jimmer will be the great Mormon hope but he won’t be like Tebow lol.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
damn
price?
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 9, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
Mark cuban on letting Chandler and Butler Walk
The reality is that in the new system, cap room will have far more value than it had in the past. I realize that everyone is all freaked out about how and where free agents and future free agents are going, but it’s not just about getting one guy.
We are not saving cap room in hope of that one super special free agent being there. It’s about being in the position to improve every year and possibly add some significant, younger players next year and in future years.
What I don’t think people understand is that once a team hits the tax level the ability to improve our team is reduced dramatically. In addition, your ability to make trades is reduced. So basically, if we made the move to keep everyone together with five-year deals, the team we have today is going to be the team we have for the next five years. If we were a young team it would be one thing. But we are not a young team.
In the past, it was different. If we had a problem, I could fix any mistake by having Donnie find a trade and just taking on more money. … That trick doesn’t work any more for teams over the tax. So we have to change our approach.
The hard cap on luxury teams isn’t getting enough attention. Cuban understands it.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 12:47 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Great copy of Cuban take... Thanks
I was waiting to hear a better impression of what things should look like
once this crazy “one last bite at the apple” craziness passes.
3-on-3
That is what the Nuggets are playing tonight!
So is Nene a Nyet or what?
Or is he playing chicken to try to get Denver to match/beat that offer?
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In the midst of fans exploding on Twitter in anger,
I love that the NBA blogosphere has got the complete opposite opinions, and has it right.
RT @ticktock6 I would kill to have been able to sign Marcus Thornton for 8 million. Love him. So high on him.
RT @tomhaberstroh Go compare Marcus Thornton’s numbers in Sacramento to Eric Gordon’s last season. Virtually identical. Good value for Kings.
RT @MikePradaSBN Thornton averaged 22 a game down the stretch. It’s a fair deal. He’s better than (Nick) Young. But do the #Wizards agree?
RT @HPbasketball: GREAT move by the Kings, and Thornton will be worth it. Just have to ditch Salmons.
RT @talkhoops Great contract. Wow. RT @Chris_Broussard: Marcus Thornton signed with Sac Kings for $40 million over five years, source says
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Fairly long, but SI's take.
Here’s an interesting one: The Kings, with Jimmer Fredette, Tyreke Evans and John Salmons already on hand in the back court, have decided to make re-sign Marcus Thornton to a five-year, $40 million deal, according to ESPN’s Chris Broussard. That’s a big contract, even for a team flush with cap space both this season and next, with lots of room to cover before it hits the minimum floor. But Thornton can score, and he loves to shoot. He averaged better than 21 per game once New Orleans, always concerned about Thornton’s tendency to get himself out of position on defense, flipped him to the Kings for Carl Landry last season. He has been an above-average shooter from deep, and he showed after the trade last season that he toss some smart passes out of the pick-and-roll if need be.
Even at this price, Thornton is a young, attractive asset, the kind of player a small-market club is wise to lock up early. His presence gives the Kings all sorts of back-court versatility, allowing Fredette to roam off the ball if he prefers and Tyreke Evans to experiment at small forward. Having guys who can play with the second unit and create their own shot is always good.
The defensive issues are real, but Thornton is young, and he’ll improve with time. The Kings will have decisions to make going forward as other young players–Evans, J.J. Hickson, Jason Thompson, etc.–come off rookie deals, and having Thornton locked up brings some stability to things. Also: Spending $8 million on a 24-year-old means there is $8 million less around to spend on over-the-hill veterans just to meet the minimum salary floor. All in all, a good, strong move by the Kings.
- http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2011/12/09/the-latest-nba-trade-free-agent-rumors/
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My first thought of Nets and Nene
was that the Nets leaked all the talk about Nene in the media to cover up the tampering stuff with D12
Anybody else think that could be true?
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
Kings really looking to be a force down the road.
RT @SpearsNBAYahoo Kings to sign F-C Chuck Hayes to a 4-year, $21.3 million deal mirroring full mid-level exception, his agent Calvin Andrews confirms to Y!
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Can we get B-Roy's knees on the Stiff List?
The guy was a legit baller. Also, an unfortunate irony there.
Signatures are for wimps.
by George Karl Marx on Dec 9, 2011 12:57 PM MST reply actions
BIG SURPRISE.... NOT
From Woj:
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As teams wait to re-engage Hornets on Chris Paul, here’s one executive: "Truly feel for those guys, but we’re all gonna lowball them now.
Why?
Cp3 doesn’t want to play here anyways.
I'd love to as well...
But it’s probably not happening. If we win, it’s through trades, draft, and maybe second tier players in free agency.
by nugzin2040 on Dec 9, 2011 1:15 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Keep Lawson
He’s the future
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Vince Carter waived by the Suns.
What’s next?
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He should go back up Kobe or something
dudes days as a relevant player are over.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
LOL
RT @BIGSPORTSWRITER RT @Mr. Sports Journo swoons RT @netw3rk Awwwww RT @JerryZgoda: Rubio: When he got to locker room, he took photo of his jersey and texted it to his friends.
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Thought that the deadline would lead to breaking news after breaking news
I haven’t heard Jack Squat!!! Back to Tebow and the Bronco blogs….
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Mozgov: "I must break you..."
Plenty of news for the NBA fan
Not so much for Nuggets, but that’s fine with me.
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anyone thinking
that the Nets are trying to sign Nene just to trade him to Orlando to get Howard?
that'd make nene look...
incredibly stupid.
They already have Lopez as a trade piece
Even if legal, I can’t see them doing that.
that way he can get his money, pay no state taxes....
And still go to Disneyworld whenever he wants without having to win a championship ;)
by jd80229 on Dec 9, 2011 1:56 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
They better hope Nene doesn't read the papers.
4 years at 70 million is steep.
I think in NY, making an offer = “closing in on a deal”…with the assumption that everyone wants to play there.
Billups considering retirement
??? Damn
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 1:45 PM MST via mobile reply actions
is that the only way he can collect his $14 mil?
That would be worth it.
by jd80229 on Dec 9, 2011 1:52 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
:( :( :(
:(
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by ParkHillNative on Dec 9, 2011 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
You Want Nuggets News?
Would you settle for Chancey Billups news?
By Ian O’Connor
ESPNNewYork.com
Chauncey Billups, reportedly scheduled to be fired by the New York Knicks to clear salary-cap room for Tyson Chandler, will consider retiring from the NBA if he is claimed off waivers by a team he deems undesirable, according to his agent
I would too
Cash it, F this system that keeps shipping him around
The article goes on to quote his agent Andy Miller
“But I wouldn’t be surprised if Chauncey retired rather than play for a team he wouldn’t want to play for,” said Andy Miller, agent for the 35-year-old point guard. “He doesn’t need the money, his kids are getting to an age where he wants to be an active participant, and he doesn’t need the frustration and instability he’s constantly dealing with. So he may choose not to play.”
Perhaps he could refuse to play for any team except a contender (or Denver..I kid)
Other teams would be scared off and he would fall to his preferred teams…Miami anyone? I’m sure he would love to go to Miami and stick it to Melo.
Miami doesn't get to bid on the waivers
you’re looking at Denver, GS, Clippers, Rockets, Kings, nets, wizards
So the Heat are loading up.... sort of
From Woj:
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Veteran forward Juwan Howard says via e-mail to Yahoo! Sports, “I’m Miami Bound,” meaning he is re-signing with Heat.
that was met with cricket sounds
Big deal
by jd80229 on Dec 9, 2011 2:01 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Hey
he outlasted Brandon Roy.
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He outlasted just about everyone he ever played against
that dude is old
by Pusherman on Dec 9, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 2:25 PM MST up reply actions
FINALLY....
I was getting nervous because No News is Not Good News. After three hours of waiting
(which is unusual) we have some out of NetsDaily:
Howard: “There Was No Meeting”
by Net Income on Dec 9, 2011 12:59 PM PST in 2011
Howard tells Chris Broussard that no such meeting took place. In a telephone conversation Friday afternoon, Howard said "there was no meeting
i just happened to show up at restaurant/club/hotel
And ran into some rich Russian dude and Billy King, what a coincidence!
by jd80229 on Dec 9, 2011 2:11 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Purely coincidental
We were sitting at different tables even…. why the waitress pushed them together,
I couldn’t answer.
This is hilarious
Absolutely no one, at all wants Ronney Turiaf. Ny is saying you can have him for free and still no interest what so ever. If they can’t move him, chandler can’t sign. They can’t even offer up a 1st round pick for someone to take him off their hands, because they don’t have anything till 2017.
Someone will....
but the knicks will have to sweeten the deal with laundry fields or iman shumpert, or tony douglas. The roster bleed will have to continue.
we need to be all over this
if we could get them to include shumpert or fields, then not only do we garauntee new york has no depth, but also no future.
who cares
guy is severely overrated. Tell me what he has done that makes him the centerpiece to a dynasty. He had a good run with Dallas and New Orleans, where was he in between that- being shuffled around because of injury and being a bum. i don’t see how this is “helping” them.
Them getting Chandler would be great for us!!
They think they have their big 3, but 2/3 are injury prone and without a PG it would be a total shitshow making that 2014 pick for the Nuggets amazing.
We should facilitate that Ronny Turiaf deal just for that sake, of course save that money for Nene right now, but if not jump on that deal immediately.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey who knows
that 2017 pick could be worth something. By that point Amare should be out of the league due to no-knees, Chandler will be like 35, and Melo’s contract will have been up by then and he’ll be like 32-33.
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but they're back court is already so weak without chauncy
if they have to give another guard to move turiaf…it’s like shooting yourself in the foot.
I heard that CP3 was also going to hold out and the Hornet front office
was considering resigning. This story isn’t over.
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This is gonna get ugly...er
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BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JEFF PENDERGRAFF TO THE PACERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 2:27 PM MST reply actions
Here comes the Pacers' dynasty
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
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does he play like a soft white man enough for the Pacers?
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Looks like Gary Forbes is gonna be a Raptor From Woj
Gary Forbes is nearing a two-year contract with a team option for a third with Toronto, league sources tell Y!
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I thought he was unrestricted
Since we only signed him for a 1yr deal. I may be wrong but our only restricted agents are AAA and Chandler.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Well the fact that Nene opted out
Got him more money, so you have to give him credit for that. He is the prettiest girl at the bar full of uglies at 2 AM and now everybody is swooning over him.
I think he should realize he will be trade bait for D12 if he signs with NJ, b/c NJ obviously would rather have D12 than Nene as their marquee guy heading into the BK.
What I don’t understand is that Brook Lopez is a way better piece if you want to rebuild like Orlando will have to do, so why would they want Nene over Lopez??
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
i'd imagine they'd want both
Nene and Lopez for Howard and Turkoglu
Also can someone correct me
But if you are caught tampering, won’t you lose draft picks like the Minnesota Timberwolves a while ago?
Why would Nene want to sign with a franchise that could lose its future for a while? I guess we have to wait and see, I am waaaay too confused right now.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Hard to prove carrier pigeon tampering
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Secret cloning project.
Prokhorov’s Clone was in the USA while he was speaking on TV about Putin yesterday.
He seems like someone whom Bill Hader could parody quite well
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No news on Nene and AAA
Time to head over to grantland to see who had sex with who on TV this week, and who cried.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 2:38 PM MST reply actions
Wait wait wait
so he will sign with team that will trade him to a rebuidling team. And he thinks we are disrespecting him. Here I was thinking Nene was smarter than other athletes and wanted more than money :(
he hasn't signed anywhere yet
Nets made an offer of about 15million a year. I think Denver can easily match that with a 5th year.
Chauncey wouldn't come back to the Nuggets
source said that there isn’t a possibility right now that Billups will sign with Denver, his hometown team
He wants to start, and he knows the PG job is Ty’s
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What about coming back as a GM??
I really think he could make a great GM. Plus to be honest it was Melo that forced the trade, the Nuggets really didn’t want to make the trade but they had to, I hope Chauncey doesn’t have bad feelings about it.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Has there ever been a player/GM?
If this happened, would he trade himself and then have to explain to himself that it is just the business of basketball?
well plus he feels pretty burned by the Nugs after being unwillingly traded twice, right?
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by ParkHillNative on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
I should think so
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by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2011 2:57 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Chauncey should direct his anger at Melo
I don’t know how else the Nuggets were going to get more haul in the trade than including Chauncey.
I would be hurt though too if I was Chauncey.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Here We Go Again....
From Woj:
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On renewed talks for nixed Chris Paul blockbuster: “All three teams are engaged,” one source tells Y! Sports. “Not sure if it will work.”
SunValley has been on a roll recently
I think I laughed at all of his gifs the past 2 threads.
Inbounding lob pass has some great ones too, too bad they are too offensive to SB nation.
Is that a Walt Frasier jersey btw? Fity has some class.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Aren't you going to tell them where they came from?
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Hochman just appeared on NBA TV
His stache is something else….how he didn’t get arrested on general principle with that look while doing the high school beat the last few months boggles the mind.
by jd80229 on Dec 9, 2011 3:06 PM MST via mobile reply actions
and what did he have to say?
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 3:15 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
nothing new that wasnt brought up here
Except that his stache is supposed to be to pay tribute to Ron Burgundy but with this hair it makes him look more like Ron Jeremy….or so I have heard ;)
by jd80229 on Dec 9, 2011 4:00 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Soooo Forbes gone to Toronto
And NJ trying to get Nene away… Looks like we are going to have some definate new faces around here in a couple days… what do we have right now 7 signed players including the rookies or not incuding the rookies?
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ohhhhh
idk if that’s such a good idea.. it its anyting over 2 mil a year I say no no no
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It's at Times Like This that it Helps to Maintain a Positive Attitude
Just listen to Luis Scola tell it (from Yahoo twitter)
LScola4:
I´m on my way to the Toyota Center, this is going to be fun. The good thing is that the TC it´s on the way to the airport, just in case..
Bahahahaha
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Stein just tweeted
Teams are allowed to contact for Chris Paul again… ALL teams
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Need a new thread
This one is slowing down my computer.
Just Another of My Passing Fantasies
From Woj:
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Now @Deepsixer3 confirms deal is indeed done for Thaddeus Young to stay with 76ers.
damnittttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
ugh
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I don't really know how that would have worked given that Hamilton is a 3
We need a 2 guard anyway.
I think by the end of today we will get a better sense of what is going on. I have no doubt Ujiri is working hard, but keeping things under wraps as much as possible.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
I wouldn't be so fast to say
HAM isn’t a 2… i bet he ends up being a 2 in this league
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Suns got Shannon Brown?
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Yup Brown is with the Suns
Yet another shooter to rot away there. I have no idea if the Suns are rebuilding or just accepting mediocrity.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
interesting
how much did he make?
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wow
that’d cheap… even for an ex laker
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Leaving for the day
Enjoy the news….FYI – Sammy D. renounced by the Kings…I hope the Nugs do not go there if they miss on Nene.
Hell no to Sammy D
Please dear god in heaven don’t sign that man. I would rather start Chu Chu than Sammy D who is pretty much like a poor man’s Chandler (and Chandler is hugely overrated).
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Houston may get Dalembert if Nets get Nene.
Not sure what Denver would get, which scares me.
Denver can always offer more than the Nets if they want.
Okay so what have I missed?
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Welp
Shannon Brown to Suns
Grant Hill to Heat
Juwan Howard to Heat
Caron Butler to Clips
Chuck Hayes to Kings
Al Thornton to Kings
LA and NO still trying to work on Paul deal as we speek
Nene still up in air
nothing on AAA
Forbes got offer from Toronto… think that covers it
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chauncy amnestied, might retire
roy retired
carter amnestied
gilbert arenas amnestied
baron davis amnestied
when i said Al Thornton
I meant Marcus
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yep yep that stuff too ^^
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Whew...thanks guys!
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my bad
i could have sworn i read Hill was heading to Miami
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Also
Celtics trading F Glen Davis in sign and trade to Magic for F Brandon Bass, source tells @YahooSports
RIP bought out
How bout RIP off the bench behind AAA for 3 mil per?
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That could actually work well
Go after Hamilton for cheap now Nuggets!!! Oh and also sign Nene and AAA please.
kthxbai
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hell maybe you can convince Chauncey
to come back as a back up, flip Dre for a pick to GS and you can form a back up guard dup of Chauncey and RIP like the good ol days… could possibly intruige them. Play against backups while they still have a couple years left in the tank just so they can stay competative seeing as both are very competative players.
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Would all come back to Nene though
If we don’t re-sign him we should have a youth movement.
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by JR15 on Dec 9, 2011 3:58 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
There's no way Chauncey excepts a backup role, IMHO
Bringing him back just means drama and inhibiting Ty’s growth.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 9, 2011 5:13 PM MST up reply actions
Nuggets first move.
Have signed undrafted free agent Julyan Stone
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by stan_26 on Dec 9, 2011 3:57 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Sweet
added some stones to the team
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Well one at least
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well 3 if your technically counting
but yes just one to the roster sheet
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Looks like he is a 6'6" PG who played at UTEP
Could be our Forbes replacement.
I have a feeling Ujiri knows what he is doing with undrafted guys a la Gary Forbes last year.
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Julyan Stone is an awesome pick up
All-time leader in assists at UTEP (keep in mind Tim Hardaway went there). Hard-nosed defender. Finally when we play 2 pgs at once, one will at least be 6’6
the guy can't shoot for a lick though, but I'm still interested in seeing what he can do
and it’s better to try something new then go back to AC imho.
Who the hell is that guy???
Someone give me info please.
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Well thank god for that!
I was worried
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from NBADraft.net
Strengths: Extremely versatile guard … Blessed with the natural ability to play PG and size to play three different positions … Strong athleticism with very good leaping ability and explosiveness … Smooth, quick first step … Good penetrator that spends a lot of time in the paint … Has become very efficient over his four years at UTEP, finishing his last season at 53% … Tall for a point guard with very long arms … Excellent court vision … Sees over the defense and doesn’t miss open teammates … Gets them the ball in a position where they can score easily … Knows how to feed post players … Makes good decisions with the ball in transition … Trusts his teammates and has their trust as well … Doesn’t turn the ball over often … Plays hard and hustles everywhere on the floor … Averaged 7.5 rebounds in his senior season despite playing the point guard position … Has the toughness, lateral quickness and long arms to be a blanket on defense … Has the potential to defend 1s, 2s and 3s at the next level …
Weaknesses: Non-existent scoring ability … Despite playing 36.5 minutes per game in the fairly weak Conference USA, he only averaged 8.5 points per game … Very poor shooter … Lacks any range on his jump shot … Opponents will have no respect for his shooting ability and play off him, which will make him an easy player to defend, and inhibit his playmaking abilities … Solid finishing ability around the rim, but won’t get as many opportunities there at the next level … Poor free-throw shooter at 56% … Had four years to improve his shooting ability, yet never managed to do so …
Overall: Stone is a very interesting prospect, but won’t have an easy path to the NBA … PGs over 6’4 can be counted on one hand and seem to becoming obsolete … He would be an ideal role-player at the next level if he could become a respectable shooter and maybe take advantage of his size by taking smaller defenders into the post … His versatility may get his name called in the second round of this year’s draft, but he needs to patch up some of the major holes in his game if he wants to play in the NBA any time soon
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 4:03 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe he is a good practice player?
From the sounds of it, I would rather have Anthony Carter as a 3rd string PG than this guy.
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like they like his Defense more than anything I'm guessing.
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 4:10 PM MST up reply actions
56% FT shooting for a guard is really bad
I think AC had 80% at least. Oh well he is cheap and most likely a practice player.
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You mean because AC would come at the vet min?
Is an undrafted FA less?
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More Stone info
Great name for Colorado ( I can see some jokes with that name here in Boulder fo sho lol).
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/julyan-stone
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Let's Try to Keep Our Eye on the Prize(s)
So far we’re still in the running for
- Nene
- Afflalo
- Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
Phew, I thought maybe Moute had gotten away.
We would still need a wing scorer on the bench
Are we going to wait for Chandler, or maybe go after Rip Hamilton?
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Damn Nene
I imagine the only reason Denver hasn’t brought in another decent free agent, is that Nene hasn’t made his decision yet. Hopefully, we don’t have to wait for a stupid television special.
I want Mbah a Moute.
That would be nice to Mbah a Moute
We would actually be too big at that point and would have to trade a big for a wing player I am guessing.
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But I guess you can never have enough wings
If we had JR we would have an amazing backcourt in AAA/Ty/ Miller/JR/ Hamilton
And a great/ young frontcourt in Moz/Nene/Gallo/ Koufus/ Bird/ Mbuah a Moute/ Faried/ Harrington (Maybe Harrington could play 3?) .
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Meant to say enough bigs...ugh too tired of this nonsense right now
Just sign with the Nuggets Nene, we know you are the pretty girl, haven’t you felt enough love by now. You are about the get one night standed by the Nets when they send you to Orlando in the walk of shame.
At least the Nuggets will cherish you, and take care of you. But alas, the pretty girl always goes for the jerk.
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That's the same look Irvin had on his face
when he stabbed a guy in the neck with a pair of scissors.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 4:30 PM MST up reply actions
NBA is being retarded odom, martin, and scola would net plenty of stuff in further trades
As Hornets restart trade talks, directive from NBA is to get better, younger package, to ensure long-term success, I’m told.
Thats what I said
The Lakers may give up less now and that would make me really irate.
Hopefully they now give up Odom, Bynum, and Gasol. Or at least take on a really bad conrtact and give up draft picks. Do something to make it worse on the Lakers…please.
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From what I've read
the other owners want LA to take on more salary. In the original deal, the lakers got the best player in the deal and dumped salary. They want the hornets to dump salary on the lakers.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 4:33 PM MST up reply actions
The other owners want the Lakers to give them $$$
It makes sense, I assume NO will send them Okafor. Maybe they take back Bynum and the Lakers get really screwed.
Then I will be really happy with Stern :)
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I guess don't listen to rumors
johnhollinger John Hollinger
Told by reliable source that Denver actually wasn’t interested RT @retrosportsgmr Sixers beat Denver to the punch potentially saved millions
smokescreen...
smart, if they were targeting someone else all along. plus it makes the sixers or some other team raise the price on young.
Rip is going to Chicago
Where he will get a starting job. At least this makes JR more likely to sign with us if he gets out of the dregs in China.
I think I am the only one who wants him back, but I know he will come back for cheap if we have a good team by March.
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Hey here is some Nuggets news
Probably not good news though.
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LOL - Ball Don't Lie is Funny Sometimes
2011 DENVER NUGGETS TRAINING CAMP SCHEDULE — SATURDAY, DECEMBER 10
9:00 AM – 9:30 AM: Introductions. May be shortened to five minutes.
9:30 AM – 10:00 AM: Break into shooting groups for position-specific drills. General shooting drills. Guards, this is your chance to learn how to post up. Big men, make sure to forget everything you learn in the guard drills.
10:00 AM – 10:30 AM: Two-on-one fast break. May be extended to several hours. Frequent water breaks.
10:30 AM – 11:00 AM: Two-on-three fast break. May be extended to several hours. Frequent IV breaks.
11:00 AM – 11:30 AM: Five-on-two defense rotations. Just pretend there are three other offensive players on the court.
11:30 AM – 12:00 PM: Five-man offensive play run-throughs. Two of you get to rest! Are you excited?
12:00 PM – 1:00 PM: Break for lunch. No naps allowed.
1:00 PM – 1:30 PM: Group rebounding drills. George Karl throws a ball at a rim and whoever has the most energy left grabs it. What, you come up with a better idea?
1:30 PM – 2:00 PM: Screw it, we’ll just let you play video games. We ran out of drills. Sorry. I swear we’ll be ready for the first game.
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 4:58 PM MST up reply actions
I guess we haven't signed Faried and Hamilton yet
Those are a given of course, so we technically have 9 players.
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They are signed and at practice
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Any nuggets news?
been following that useless yahoo tracker where they just repost twitter
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Just that Karl is using Pepper Spray
to keep other teams away from AAA and Nene.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
this thread is pretty up to date
so far the Nuggets have only signed a complete unknown FA guy…
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 4:52 PM MST up reply actions
At least we have this
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWkhvdCjUSs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 9, 2011 4:59 PM MST up reply actions
Nobody but Lawson
In that video is on this team now.
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I figured that out now
I tried to post a pick of JR but iPad won’t do it
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 9, 2011 5:14 PM MST up reply actions
Greg Oden's name should be 'Oden Setback'
Jason Quick: Breaking: Blazers determine center Greg Oden has suffered setback, and restructure his one-year deal for a lesser amount 1 minute ago
I don't like the Blazers
But can’t help but feel sorry for what happened with Oden and Roy. Terrible luck.
Tacos!!! oh wait...
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I'd be okay if he came back. I mean we're going to suck anyway....
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Oh look, I made it to the end...
Stiffs: You guys are awesome. I’m all over the Net following news and scanning Twitter, and you guys always are the first to break big news that isn’t total BS.
Thank you for making this a merry Stiffmas!
Now…. sad that there is no news about Afflalo. I know Nene might take some time as he will be getting offers from all over the place, but I thought we’d hear something by now.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I've got a bad feeling about all of this :(
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You had a bad feeling when Melo left
You should embrace the rebuild if it happens or embrace our pseudo-contender if it happens too.
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Well, you should be psychologically prepared to lose Nene
It will be good news if we keep him. But I think it is unlikely. That glimmer of optimism this week was, alas, just that.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
yeah it seems like we're gearing up for a big...
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 5:21 PM MST reply actions
HEY!!!!
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I'm blonde too :)
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Oh. Do you need me to explain the tank picture joke?
See, what we have here is a “pun” where a word that sounds the same….
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Oh you are an ass. A funny one...but an ass.
And just when I thought we were friends :P
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Teasing.
Don’t answer.
Sorry. Pins and needles here. Not happy about the lack of news.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I think we have to decide if we mean
intentional tanking vs accidentally tanking for vast amounts of suckage
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Not over yet
We will know soon enough though. I think we are waiting on Nene before we chase AAA.
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Who is this Jackshit?
Do you have particulars?
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Because right now, I'd take Jackshit.
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I'm okay whatever happens
Just hope we don’t overpay for anyone to be honest. I like Afflalo a lot, but if some teams proposes some crazy offer, and we lose him then we’ll just have to play someone else a lot of minutes.
Dunno who to be honest tho.
I'm totally OK with overpaying for Nene
$15 million a year for 5 years might seem like a lot for some people here. But… The fact is, he’s the piece to the puzzle here. And Nene seems like the sort who will man up and be the man if given a contract like that.
OK with paying a bit more for AAA, too. I mean, at least these are devils we know, you know? And it isn’t like there is a shortage of cap room, either.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
If he really wants to be here...
But I don’t think he does. Wants to get paid.. doesn’t probably care if he gets signed by New Jersey and traded later to Orlando and is in a losing situation for the next four years either.
jmo tho.
I’m ok overpaying on Afflalo but not if it’s $50 million over 4 years.
by nugzin2040 on Dec 9, 2011 5:56 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
If Nene leaves to Jersey
we need to seriously consider just trading for Chauncey and then buying out his contract to get us to the cap floor. It be the smartest move for us, keeps us from getting stuck with a terrible contact and keeps us with cap space for next year. Plus it couldn’t hurt doing right by Chauncey
has he?
all there has been so far is reports right? guess it would be better if he was amnestied then we could just put a bid in for him for the difference between the cap floor and Afflalo’s salary. i imagine we would still be able to buy him out, i was just reading over on round ball mining company that amnestied players can be traded 30 days after they are awarded to a team
Now That I Think About It
This could be it, right here, right now. If the Nuggets manage to lose both
Nene and Afflalo then they’d very likely be in line for a Top Three pick in the draft.
Based on a consensus of the Top Three draft sites they would be:
- Anthony Davis PF 6-10 220 Fr. Kentucky
- Andre Drummond C 6-10 279 Fr UConn
- Harrison Barnes SF 6-8 223 So No. Carolina
Who should we pick?
Davis or Drummond
I like Gallo as our future 3. A lot more uncertain about where we are at PF and C. I like Davis a lot.
I'd take Barnes for sure.
Highest potential for superstardom, Drummond and Davis will be good, but how many Centers are really superstars? Dwight, Oden could’ve been, and really the next chance is maybe DeMarcus Cousins?
(I’m a pretty big college bball fan, I was at that game that UNLV upset #1 North Carolina, was craaazy, and worth every cent even if I’m not a fan of either team).
HOWEVER, I’d much prefer us to get 2 or 3 lottery picks than the top pick. If we can pick up guys like Kidd-Gilchrist, Rivers, Teague, Miller, Henson, Lamb, etc., there’s a HIGH chance we get at least one superstar out of them. The downside is that the only real big men with potential will be going in the top 6, (Drummond, Davis, Sullinger, Jones) but I’m sure we can find some talent to shore up our front line.
Just PLEASE, for the love of everything, no one advocate for drafting Tyler Zeller. I might cry.
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Barnes will be a really good, perhaps perfect pairing with Lawson.
If we think Moz and friends are gonna be good enough we should go for Barnes. If we need more bigs then I’d go for Davis.
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 6:47 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
From AAA's Twitter:
i feel like the kid being picked last on the playground lol…. ima make somebody regret they did that lol
I always though we were just going to wait until AAA
signed a offer sheet, and then match. That way we wouldn’t have to bid against ourselves trying to sign him to a deal.
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Makes sense
I suspect that everybody respects his game but he doesn’t inspire, sort of the luxury everybody would love to have. Plus you always have to wonder if he’ll be as good in your system. Exhibit A is Wilson Chandler and Felton who played better for the Knicks.
only works better for us
makes me less worried we’ll overpay him
Just saw that right after he posted
p.s. ….. im tired of competing by myself at fitness clubs…. i need a practice jersey
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 9, 2011 6:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
and just before
on the court not off by the way
God gamn it Nene
I don’t know if AAA is joking or not. I think he knows what the Nuggets are doing. I have no idea what is going on, this is making me nuts. I should stop going to DS until it is over. I am ready to embrace the rebuild
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OT: Arghhhhhhhhhhhhh
thank you for letting me vent
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Hahahaha thanks! :)
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Hamilton and Faried look bout the same size.
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Warriors waive Jeremy Lin
cheap 3rd PG option?
no, having gone to a nuggs home game against the warriors last year,
i can say with first hand experience he sucks
yeah, no shooting ability
but tons of hustle. GS didn’t do much w/ him .. wondering if he has growth potential
knicks now attempting some king of sign and trade with mavs for tyson chandler
like I said earlier no one would take ronny turiaf, even for free. This won’t be for chauncey though, dallas is attempting to get a trade exception.
they were even offering
like 3 million dollars to go with him and still couldn’t give him away
where are you getting these pics?
Are you in the gym?
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 7:20 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
This is making me excited in unnatural ways
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Here's an update/correction from Sactown
Marcus Thorton will indeed remain with the Sacramento Kings, but according to Sam Amick of SI.com the deal will be for $33 million over four years. ESPN has previously inaccurately reported that the deal would be for five years, $40 million.
Some serious secret intrigue also from Sactown
n case you’ve missed the discussion in the comment threads or on Twitter, Grant Napear has said on today’s show on 1140 The Fan that the Kings are talking about big-name player fans will be excited about, with news of a deal possibly coming on Saturday. It’s not an All-Star level player, but Napear has been adamant that it’s a “big name” and that it’s not a guard.
maybe it's nene
unless it’s DeAndre Jordan, I can’t imagine it being anyone but Nene.
Then who then?
There’s not anyone left that’s a big name is there?
They have a lot of young talent
Could see it be someone like Odom, if it’s a trade and the NOL/LAL/HOU trade goes thru
Wow, that's crazy.
I’m of the opinion that the Kings have a legit roster. Bottom line, Kings draft picks won’t be worth much for a looong time.
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The quiet has me very very nervous
there’s no rumors nothing on the nuggs. I almost enjoyed the constant melo rumors more.
I'm gonna miss Chia-Head :(
Maybe Dre will become Chia-Head2.0
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After eyeballing the various teams and cruising a few blogs
There just isn’t that many teams with cap space or likely to be overly aggressive in pursuing our Nuggets. I’m wondering if the Nets even know what they want to do?
seriously, Nene is the back up plan for Howard?
Just save your cap space for 2012, when howard can come as a fa. He already said he wants to go there. It’s not happening.
I'm just happy basketball is back
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David West to the Celtics?!
How in the world do they afford this?
Of course Boston has always been my favorite EC team and anything that could potentially help them knock off the Heat, Lakers, or Thunder if it comes to that can only be good.
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Nene decision pending....
Woj updates the scene: mostly a change of “did” from “will”
The New Jersey Nets made a four-year, $60 million-$65 million contract offer to free-agent center Nene, aggressively pushing to steal him away from the Denver Nuggets, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Nets general manager Billy King was presented the offer to Nene’s agent Dan Fegan on Friday. Nene could make a decision as soon as Friday night.
At that price
$15-16 million/year, just let him go.
by the real stranger on Dec 9, 2011 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
sounds like jermaine o'neal and jujuan johnson will be sent from celtics to NO
for David West. Then Cp3 + jermaine o’neal will be sent to LA for Odom/gasol, and then gasol to houtsonfor scola, martin,dragic. Wow that’s complicated.
No more complicated than last night's histrionics, haha
Reported they been working on it. Be glad to see it done, frankly.
Wow the knees of the frontcourt of the Celtics will be really really old and bad
Oh well, I hope they can stop the Heat. I think LBJ making excuses just really rubs me the wrong way. I don’t know how much West and Bass can help them and they lost the draft Purdue forward guy.
I really really respect Wade, and don’t know why LBJ acts like a little kid and has to have Wade take all the pressure off him.
I like the Heat for Wade, but really dislike them because of LBJ (btw I thought LBJ was overrated before the decision, but now that I heard he acted like a pompous princess, I disliked him).
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that's right I forgot they aquired bass
they maybe old but hey are loaded in overall talent. Rondo, KG, allen, peirce, Green, West. they lack a center though
Nice. Shouldn't Gallo be there too?
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Picked this up at NetsDaily... no date or time
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Dwight Howard’s agent, Dan Fegan, tells SI that the Magic gave Howard permission to have contact with several teams to explore his options
This season is so messed up. I don't know who to believe
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Woj has the same info
WojYahooNBA:
The agent for Dwight Howard, Dan Fegan, tells Y! Sports that Orlando has given Howard permission to talk to three teams
So Nene and Howard have the same agent
makes things pretty easy for the Nets handling
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And this...
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Fegan says the Orlando gave Howard permission to talk to three teams. New Jersey was one of them.
It looks like Nene might come to Denver if this is true
Why would they waste money on Nene when they can get Dwight??
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And from Woj
WojYahooNBA:
The Nets are one of three teams that Howard has permission to speak, but Fegan says Howard did not attend a meeting with Nets officials
Other two: Lakers and....I'm gonna say the Raptors
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I definitely mean the force from up north
I mean they have new ownership now, before ya know it they will have a big 4(Dwight, Paul, some future FA and Drake for in game DJ)
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Right now smokes and mirrors
Lets see what happens when all the games are over. I now have renewed optimism :)
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
You say tomato, I say...
sam_amick Sam Amick
by ChrisMannixSI
Story to come on SI.com, but Orlando CEO Alex Martins disputes the claim of Dwight Howard’s agent that permission was given to talk to teams
Stanger and stranger
Magic GM Otis Smith confirmed to ESPN the Magazine on Friday night that he granted permission to Fegan to speak to the Nets about a deal involving Howard.
Hmm..Thought of a very off the wall play for this season
There is a rumbling that Howard is weighing interest from Chi, NJ, Washigton, Utah, and Denver. More then sure it’s leveraging us…but dare to dream.
If you could swap Howard for something like Lawson, Chandler rights, Hamilton, Mozgov, 1st round pick this year and 2014 with the NYK pick there.
You put in a claim on Billups and resign Nene. You could have that team with amnestying only Harrington.
There is one and a million shot. At this point I have no clue who the Nugs will spend there money on if Nene is gone. BTW David West S&T to Celtics.
Howard is going to a big market
he’s a thoughtless NBA star like the rest of them, although more likable at that
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by Phil H. on Dec 9, 2011 9:48 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
But it’s more fun to think of how to build a championship team. A lot harder without a special team.
I love Lawson but it’s a matter of building a trade propsal you either use Gallo or Lawson. Lawson more easily replaceable.
The team you'd put together...
Billups/Miller
Afflalo/Forbes
Gallo/Hamilton
Nene/Far
Howard/Anderson/Koufus
That would be if you can hold on to Hamilton…Honestly my perfect makeup would be to add JR in that spot lol.
And now back to reality.
Forbes is signing in Toronto I think
by Vee Sanford's Velvet Tracksuit on Dec 9, 2011 10:08 PM MST up reply actions
Cory Higgins at TC
Camp fodder or 3rd PG? Thoughts?
higgins was invited but stone was actually signed to a contract
that makes me lean towards camp fodder, but you never know. They may use his as a 3rd string sg.
Ricky Rubio seems to be the NBA version of Steve Hess, all his tweets(happened to come across it) have a lot of !!!!!!
never in the world has there been a person this happy for moving from Barcelona to Minneapolis
"Weltmeister!!" Zwei mal: 2010-2011...und weiter gehts
I really don't want Dalembert
If we lose out on Nene we may go in to the season under and use our cap space for a trade. Because to say there is slim pickings out there would be an understatement right now.
Holy crap, Birdman is really becoming the Illustrated Man
Awesome pic though
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HAHAHAHAHA
I’m dying over here.
DenverStiffs > MileHighReport
by KevinAwesome on Dec 9, 2011 10:20 PM MST up reply actions
I want to know
What’s up with the beard. If he is not careful he might poke someone’s eye out.
Now that we know that Fegan has a lot on his plate
- Is Nene just cruisin’ waiting for things to settle?
- Or is he going crazy to have this done with?
So Nene is aware he is just a pawn in NJ's scheme?
Given that his agent also represents D12. I thought he wanted respect why is he being a b*&ch to his agent and the Nets?
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Play that funky music
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Easy peasy
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More pix please!!!
So I can go to sleep with visions of Carolina blue dancing in my head. My daughter named everyone in the stretching pic – I’m so proud.
I'm either very proud of or very scared for your daughter
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Caption Game:
“Damn, I hate doing pullups this way”
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Can the FO work some magic again?
Like they did with the Melo deal?
I’m still holding out hope for a Nene/AAA/Lawson/Gallo/Moz lineup….
Or maybe a deal in the works that we are not even anticipating?
I hate this rumor mill frenzy but I can’t stop watching….
That's my opening night line-up, for sure
And if Ujiri can also get us a sharpshooting backup at the 2, we’re in business!
But I fear we’re dreaming. More likely we’ll see a strange blow-up, though the season will be fascinating for Nuggets fans, no matter what.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 9, 2011 10:23 PM MST up reply actions
yeah, i've thought about CB being a 2
as well, but as many people have noted, I just can’t see him being willing to come off the bench this season.
Doubt we'll see Billups in powder blue again
And who can blame the guy? Besides, we need a youngun with legs who can shoot the lights out and create his own shot.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 9, 2011 10:47 PM MST up reply actions
Caption Contest Game
“Hey Birdman, give us our table back so we can finish arm wrestling!”
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"You keep knockin' him down, I'll keep pickin' him up"
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 9, 2011 10:49 PM MST up reply actions
"Just furthering international relations...one step at a time."
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Needs more Chia-Head
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To be a b*%ch
For the Nets or be a man for the Nuggets. Oh Sooooo Tough
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
For those of you guys wondering earlier
Dwight Howard and his reps have permission to speak to Lakers, Nets and Mavericks, @sam_amick reports
Orlando PR man Joel Glass calls to inform that D. Howard’s agent now has permission to speak w/ Lakers, Nets, & Mavs about possible trade.
sam_amick Sam Amick
Glass was clear that this permission was from here "going forward," not previously.
Magic writer
JohnDenton555 John Denton
Just confirmed that D12’s agent, Dan Fegan, has been given permission to seek trade with NJ, LAL and Dallas. Only Fegan though, not D12
It's coming together... Latest on Chris Paul
From Woj:
WojYahooNBA:
As three teams redo framework of Chris Paul blockbuster, sides are “progressing well” toward a reshaped deal, front office source tells Y!
WojYahooNBA:
The primary work on deal has been between Lakers and Hornets sides, sources say. Rockets still get Gasol, still move same parts. Odom to NO.
Brilliant!
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Yeah I thought the flaming Bass would fit Bird's personna
And we all know how Al BLOWS…..
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 11:38 PM MST up reply actions
Can We
Sign Howard and trade him and the rights to Wilson Chandler to NJ for a resigned Nene and the rights to Turkeloo (sp?) from Orlando and pick from Orlando or NJ. Than we amnesty Turkaloo?
Jussayin’ that I guarantee we will be working every angle to get picks by using all of our cap space.
Thanks. I guess I just really want to amnesty someone
And I want to believe Nene will stay
Houston still want Nene so says:
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Rockets still hopeful to cut this deal and get back in Nene hunt. Need deal to clear cap space to offer $15 mill/per, which NJ is offering.
Somehow I won't be surprised if we trade Chandler for a pick in this draft
Or can we trade him?
We'd have to re-sign him first
A task made more difficult by the fact that he’s stuck in China for the foreseeable future.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
he's still a restricted free agent
so yes he’s still on the team.
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 9, 2011 11:46 PM MST up reply actions
So we can't trade him until China's Season is over?
How did the nuggets end up with three players from last year roster going to china? Any other NBAers in China?
Aaron Brooks
Is all I know about. Yeah we got kinda screwed with that. Why couldn’t they go to Europe? Who knows
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Thanks
BTW. I would love to see JR in Denver again. Pure entertainment! I know it will never happen!
China offered more money than Euro teams. Euro economy is shot right now.
by Real 2K Insider on Dec 10, 2011 3:18 AM MST up reply actions
So what goes on?
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
hmmmm
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
Good God man,
I’m gonna have nightmares now
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Houston's smokin' the good stuff
Nene is wavering and AAA is getting mad that no one has made any action to get him.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Ujiri better have something on his sleeves….
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
It better be the blood of other execs
Who are trying to steal Nene from where he rightfully belongs.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Seriously
The regular season starts in 16 days! Better sign our boys (AAA, Chauncey and Nene) and get after it!
Doesn't sound like Nene is grappling over a decision to stay with the Nuggets
If as suggested they are able to re-agree on the Chris Paul trade on Saturday
then Houston can match the offer by the Nets for Nene.
Sounds like his decision is which team he’s moving to.
I think we should offer all available Cap space after we sign Nene and AAA
To Chauncey to return on a one year deal. It would make our entire city happy! Make Chauncey come home or retire. Would show class by the nuggets. Trade al and Andre for any pick to anyone.
One day its Nene is staying, the next he is going to Jersey
I guess it is like Roulette and I think his choices are NJ, Houston, and Denver. If he is seriously considering Houston, I think Nene deserves to go there and suck it out with the Llama and no backcourt.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
So it's just not looking very good for our team
Update from Woj:
The Nets have a chance to close on a four-year, $60 million-plus deal for Denver Nuggets free-agent center Nene this weekend, but are working relentlessly to make a deal with Orlando for Howard, league sources said. Howard has been waffling between wanting a deal to the Lakers and Hollywood, and wanting to join point guard Deron Williams with the Nets and be the cornerstone of the franchise’s move to a new Brooklyn arena in 2012-13, sources told Y! Sports.
Btw Nene is getting a ton of respect from the Nets who are telling him
Hey wait we wanna try to get this guy, but if we can’t get him you are next we promise
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how can they get Howard and Nene?
If nene is really the backup plan if Howard decides to go to La, then we’re out of it as far as i’m concerned. i think it means we aren’t willing to give him the 15mill, that the nets are. Of course, I could be wrong, but that’s just my hunch right now.
From what Ujiri said
I don’t think thats the case. You could be right though, that could be why Nene is waiting.
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the nets offered him 4 years 60 million dollars earlier today.
He hasn’t taken it yet, so he’s waiting. There’s nothing coming out of nuggets camp. No idea what masai is doing
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
They still have Bynum and Fisher to Trade for Howard and a whole lotta 2nd round pics.
And some first round pics. Orlando may just wanna tank it. Could happen! Gilbert was right! CompleteBS
by Rockridge1 on Dec 10, 2011 12:15 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
No one, I repeat no one wants Derek Fisher
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Watch em somehow
Keep their bigs too. I told you that Stern nix may have made it worse. I guess its to be seen.
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It will happen
sternhappen stern needs to be gone if Paul or Howard end up in LA
Stern needs to be gone after his idiotic veto
Not to mention the lockout and negotiating in BAD FAITH. What a JACKASS. I predict he’s all done. Soon.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 10, 2011 12:27 AM MST up reply actions
If Nene were to choose Houston and ask for a S/T
The Rockets have the Knicks first round pick (top 5 protected) for this year.
Others have said this before
But since it’s playing out right now… It’s pretty interesting how much we’re hearing, via all kinds of routes, sourced and unsourced, from other teams’ GMs and the moves they’re attempting. Yet we hear next to nothing from Masai Ujiri and the Nuggets.
I find that reassuring. Others won’t. But after last season’s MeloDrama and its damn decent conclusion, we seem to be in good hands—even if things don’t break our way. A good GM can’t control everything, eh?
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 10, 2011 12:26 AM MST reply actions
Surely things are proceeding
I’m betting the team is staying in touch with the guy. But I’ve heard little about other teams coming calling. You?
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 10, 2011 12:28 AM MST up reply actions
Lakers Have two first. Round picks and seven second round picks in the next two drafts
They can get the both when they amnesty “Mehta World Peace” and give a combination of picks.
Stern can get his cash from Jerry Bus and head off into the sunset
Watch it happen boys
They can amnesty Meta
But they have no cap flexibility. That happens when Kobe is making over 20 million a year. I could see them being forced to take back Ariza and amnestying Meta. But it’s going to be Lakers picks + Bynum for Howard. Not sure I’d be taking that deal if I was Orlando.
Nice Dan Gilbert jab from Larry Coon via twitter
“I heard Lakers, Rox & Hornets are working deep into the night, trying to restructure CP3 trade so it will bring more money to Cleveland.”
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 10, 2011 12:36 AM MST reply actions
I say we make a team from just the players that are waived in Amnesty
Billups
Hamilton
Arenas
A little light on Bigs but Karl likes “small ball”
Hamilton was a buy out
Not an amnesty. So he’s a FA
Wow. After such a full day of anticipation
I think I will call it a night. Go nuggets after midnight! DO SOMETHING!
Buenas noches
Here’s hoping we wake up to some great news.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 10, 2011 12:46 AM MST up reply actions
x
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
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Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
Nice work
You have captured a much older " Birdman"!
Lakers will score big with the proposed trade as they lose lot of salary and can easily
have more cap space to swing a trade with Orlando Magic for Howard and taking the contract of Hedo…
I wish Howard goes to Nets.. if he goes to Lakers (with / without chris paul), We can easily crown them the champions next year..
I am not sure why Lakers does not make a play for Howard and then pick up the amnestied Billups? they may not need Paul in that case…
quick question
When a team under salary cap picks up a amnestied player, what salary counts toward amnesty?
If the player like Billups retire, do the team still pay Billups his salary (even if he retires)? becoz for teams that can’t make the salary cap floor, it is a perfect world to pick up Billups or someone like him to reach the floor?
Everything is removed from the original team
The amount you bid would count towards your cap if you pick them up.
So If Billups was due 15 mil is amnestied 0 cap hit on Knicks. They pay him 15 mil.
If a team bids on his and wins him for say 4 million. New team gets 4 million cap hit and pays him 4 million. NYK have 0 cap hit but pay him 11 million.
and what if the player retires as Billups threatens
Do the bidding team still get a cap hit and has to pay the bidding amount?
or bidding team only gets a cap hit, but don’t have to pay him (as he has retired)
or bidding team do not get cap hit and don’t have to pay him?
Latest report
Nets offering Nene 4 years, 70 million. Which is insane.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 10:26 AM MST reply actions
That's ridiculous
Just let him walk.
by the real stranger on Dec 10, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
I'd be ok with 5yr 75million
but the Nets are CRAZY
I guess this could be Revenge of the KMart…
Can we also get 2 1st round picks for a sign and trade
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I think, at this point, the only hope for us to keep nene
is for the Nets to get Howard, and Houston doesn’t offer him too much.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
If we're willing to give Nene 15, then lets throw that money at Marc Gasol
I know memphis says they will match, but they are in salary chaos. You don’t max gay and randolph. Give Conley a bloated contracted, and plenty of other sizeable contracts such as OJ and Toney allen, and come out of this ok.
Problem with Gasol is Mozgov
You can play Nene at 4 next to Moz. But Gasol and Moz are essentially the same guy. Big stiff centers with little offense. Can’t play them at the same time.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
i say throw the money at Gasol and deal with that problem later
there are worse things in the NBA than having 2 guys capable of starting at C. It worked out well for the Mavs this past year.
H E L L O
We sure could use a fresh thread. That being said, we could take this one over 1,000
comments if we put a rush on.
LET’S GO!!!
While they are at it
they can sign Andrew and I for the minimum. I’m taller than Lawson and less fat than Harrington. Andrew is even taller and less fat than me. I’ll even change my last name to Tacos, while Andrew will change his name to “token white guy”.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
bwahahahahahaha
I’d be also amendable to a minimum contract….
I’m 28 5’11’ 200lbs
Can sink a 20 ft 30% of the time lol….
MOZGOD Member #35
They've got to get to the cap floor one way or another
no real players are coming. I could at least be a body in practice.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
Youth movement
I’m 23, 6’2" and 245 and can dunk. Tell me which guard could stop me in the post.
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by Army of Nugs on Dec 10, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
You suck
I’m maybe a little taller than you and could never dunk. Best I could do is touch the rim. Had to go play on the 9’ rims if I wanted to dunk.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:48 AM MST up reply actions
Calf raises
Do a ton of them
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by Army of Nugs on Dec 10, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
and when I was 23
I weighed about 160, you must have a ton of muscle. I’m picking you on my team.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah
I should be around 230, but got lazy during the fall. Hitting the gym harder than AAA though!
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by Army of Nugs on Dec 10, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
Most Important Question of the Day
It appears that all the hub-bub over the CP3 trade AND Magic tampering threats has calmed down. IF Orlando decides to go ahead and deal now, then the Nets will be hard charging and so would likely put Nene’s offer on ice
at least temporarily.
Dallas, one of three teams in pursuit, with permission, on Howard, has been helped by getting a large trade exception from the Chandler signing.
so what is the question?
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
Howard is out of there
it is just a question of when. It sounds like he wants New Jersey, so it would be an upset if he winds up anywhere else. With this shortened preseason, and the need of players and teams to move quickly, we’ll probably see both Paul and Howard moved by Monday. It’s not that hard.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
I don't mind Howard going to NewJersey...
but i think they could decide to keep Nene as a PF and Howard as center and with Deron, it would be a very good team to challenge both Newyork and Miami
Importantly keeps Howard away from western conference
I don't think they have the cap room
to get Nene for the offers that are rumored and Howard.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
even if they probably amnesty Outlaw and end up trading Lopez
and may be backload Nene’s contract?
They only have $16 million in cap space
and Orlando will almost certainly make them take Turkoglu in any deal. That’s $29 million.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
I forgot about takin back Hedo...
Thanks for pointing it out…
Ya, I feel like the nets have more to offer than dallas or LA
if they did file tampering against the nets, the nets would lose draft picks, and then wouldn’t be able to offer those picks to Orlando #doubleedgedsword.
I like the move on its own, but you have to wonder if
Knowing they might/would likely lose Nene, that this became a higher priority.
Charles Barkley is 6'4"
Rebounding is a mentality advantage not a size advantage (See Nene)
MOZGOD Member #35
Not a done deal yet
He’s restricted, at 4 years 19 million would be easy to match.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
meh
im indifferent on this move…i only like it if he can guard Durant
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
He can guard any position....
with some effectiveness. Nobody can fully guard Durant. Plus he is a PF.
I know but Gallo will get waisted by Durant
I’d rather gallo gaurd Ibaka and a better defensive player guard Durant
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
we need chandler on durant
not that that was really effective in the playoffs, but still far better than any other current option.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
yea but thats prob not happenin again
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
I Would Agree
even though he plays a different position, there are some similarities.
It’s about salary allocation.
that's what im hoping
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
Me, Me, pick Me!
I can guard him.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
suit up lad
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
I'll stick my foot out
when he drives by me, hoping he steps on it and twists his ankle. Not an injury, just enough to sit out the rest of the game.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
that is how i would defend him as well
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
Get inside his head
You do this, you give yourself freedom of needing to guard him
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by Army of Nugs on Dec 10, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
Okay, so we sign professor x.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
Definitely a great move.
Works whether we rebuild or get Nene back.
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by Agaliarept on Dec 10, 2011 11:23 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
bucks can still match!
so don’t order your jersey yet! but here’s hoping they don’t.
Nene, don't be stupid
the nets were offering lopez + picks for howard an turdoglu. Remember how trades have to match salary?lopez doesn’t match howard+ turdoglu, you sign that thing, you are shipped to a rebuilding magic team.
I thought newly signed player cannot be traded until
after some time?
yes, but the howard trade isn't imminet like paul
could happen midseason. I just don’t know how the nets would make that work, uless they call us for our trade exemption .
if that's orlando's plan,
why wouldn’t they just sign nene themselves, and get a better return on howard?
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
Paul to Lakers is back on again
pending league approval.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:03 AM MST reply actions
the cynic in me says
they probably made LA give up less so they can also get Howard. I really will be done with the NBA if that happens
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
it's really possible
Stern instructed NO to get “younger” talent. Maybe LA holds on to Odom now.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
No details yet
but the reports were that they wanted NO to be younger, and LA to take on salary.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
This is Good
I was hoping this would come together. Last thing I wanted was for them to switch on a dime and pursue Howard.
I agree.. They could have been great going after Howard
but they seem to have freed up cap space with this trade.. so there is still a chance they could go after Howard…
If I were a Laker fan, I would go after Howard and then pick Billups to shore up your point guard position…
the old trade was interesting that both Houston and Lakers gave up lot of salary and
unless the NewOrleans GM had trades in place for Odom / Scola, which reduces their salary and brings in young talent
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Just filed to ESPN w/@Chris_Broussard: New trade framework of original three-team CP3 deal has been submitted to league office for approval
And This...
BQRMagic Evan Dunlap
Acquiring Paul means the Lakers wouldn’t have cap space to sign Dwight outright as a free agent, so he wouldn’t have leverage to force trade
Concerning the trade
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Details of specific changes made to original 3-team framework not immediately known but NBA insisting Hornets get more youth/picks this time
looks like
J HAM and GK… is this the rookie treatment or what?
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
That guy on the left looks happy.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
This is a bit interesting..... about Dallas
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Mavs’ first swipe, I’m told, will be trying to do S-and-T w/Sacramento for Dalembert by using big trade exception from Tyson Chandler deal
Then add this...
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Trade exception alone was never going to get Mavs back into Dwight Sweepstakes. Only chance is if Dwight chose Dallas in 2012 free agency
On the Other Hand
sam_amick Sam Amick
Nothing imminent, but it’s being discussed. I have a hard time seeing Dalembert do 1-yr deal that lets Mavs keep cap space for 2012.
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RT @Bucksketball Bogut referred to LRMAM as the best on ball defender in the league.
RT @SHowardCooper I like DEN bid for Mbah a Moute, and not just because guys w/ multiple last names always deserve millions. Underrated difference maker on D.
RT @MSteinmetzCSN Milwaukee just paid Mike Dunleavy a little bit of money, so that probably will impact decision on whether to match for Mbah a Moute
RT @erivera7 Savvy signing by DEN with Mbah a Moute. One of the better and more versatile defenders in the NBA. Years ago, I played him in HS basketball.
RT @EricPincus If Nuggets can land Mbah a Moute – that’s a great get for a team – when it comes to youth – i like a lot (need afflalo though too)
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Okay, I need a pronouciation guide
Where is this guy from? French first names. African? last name? Is it Bahamoute?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
Cameroonian. Central Africa.
(pronounced BAH ah MOO-tay)
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Especially during basketball season. I currently follow 1,200 people, which includes basically every NBA player, and a LOT of basketball bloggers and journalists. The NBA community is unbelievable.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 10, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions
okay so this Bobby guy
doesn’t sound too bad… read he defended Wade Bron and Bosh and played all 3 very well
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 11:59 AM MST up reply actions
also said
Bing Bong out hustled the trio of Heat players as well as out ran some of them down the court. All the tweets im seeing about it is saying great under the radar move (very Ujiri esk) but they are saying he will only be relivent if we keep AAA as well.
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
nice
not familiar with this guy at all. I was pretty worried about replacing chandler’s D-this sounds like the guy.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 10, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
I hope Milwaukee doesn't match
But suspect they will. That’s a reasonable, below mid-level type of deal. And he can play multiple positions, so them being loaded at sf doesn’t really matter.
Already signed Mike Dunleavy
and have Larry Sanders and Delfino at those forward positions. Chance they don’t match, but you never know.
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WojYahooNBA:
Says front office official on 3-way Hornets-Lakers-Rockets trade: “Everyone in the deal is waiting for guidance from the league.”
Can anyone tell me why Denver is so quiet on the Affalo front?
Sorry if its been mentioned above in the thread, its getting long and I may have over looked it. I just can’t think of a reason why we would slow play arguably the most important person we need to get in this free agent period.
Afflalo is restricted
Expect them to wait and match offers, which, apparently (based on AA’s tweets) have not been forthcoming.
reports say
Chris Paul and Dwight Howard trades are holding the SG’s up from signing becuase among the teams to have the most $ and interest in adding them are NJ and NO and with them tied up in the CP3 and D12 deals they can start the battle on the SG’s just yet. Once the Paul trade is done I think teams start the jump on SGs
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by NastyNessy71 on Dec 10, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
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