NBA Rumors: Nene back to Denver, Chandler to NY
by Nate Timmons on Dec 8, 2011 12:47 PM MST
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PrintAnother crazy day in the NBA rumor mill! On the same day baseball star Albert Pujols elects to leave the St. Louis Cardinals for the Anaheim Angles ... NBA news is starting to break that center Tyson Chandler is close to agreeing to a deal with the New York Knicks (4 years, $60M) and the Houston Rockets are still searching for a center as they believe Nene is heading back to Denver to re-sign with the Nuggets.
While following the crazy Tyson Chandler and Chris Paul rumors today, I started seeing rumors of a three way trade between the Houston Rockets, New Orleans Hornets, and Los Angeles Lakers. The reason the Rockets are involved? Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated tweeted this out just minutes ago:
@ChrisMannixSIChris MannixRockets, sources say, were hot after Nene. Rival execs believe he is headed back to Denver at a max or close to max deal.
Pretty surprising news, if you can call it news. Pretty exciting rumor at this point. We could find out as early as tomorrow if Nene is truly coming back as teams are allowed to start inking deals at 12:00 MTN Friday December, 9th.
More on Nene:
- Adrian Wojnarowski is reporting that Nene is still considering Denver, Indiana, Houston, Golden State, and New Jersey.
Some other tidbits floating around the interwebs:
- Woj also reporting teams that will offer restricted free agent DeAndre Jordan a contract tomorrow: Denver, Golden State, Houston, and New Orleans. Clips would have three days to match any offer.
- Nuggets talking to Knicks about a deal for Ronny Turiaf. This would be a salary cap dump move by the Knicks as the Nuggets are so far under the cap they could take back Turiaf's $4.3 million salary.
- Knicks close to terms with Tyson Chandler. How can the Knicks afford to bring Chandler aboard? Well, New York is over the cap, so reports are they'd have to do a sign-and-trade for Chandler and send Billups to the Dallas Mavericks or a third team. Billups is in the last year of his deal making $14.2 million. The Knicks could amnesty Billups, meaning they'd pay him $14.2M, but that wouldn't count against their cap and that would allow them to sign Chandler to a similar deal around $11-$14 million per season.
- If Chandler goes to NY then I believe it's a two team race to get Chris Paul. Between the Los Angeles Lakers and New York Knicks. The Lakers have been working on a three team deal that would land Pau Gasol in Houston and CP3 in L.A., and Luis Scola and Kevin Martin (K-Mart Lite) the Hornets + picks.
- There was a tweet about Billups winding up back in Denver, but with Ty Lawson and Andre Miller on the roster, that makes little sense. I also think there would be a high enough demand by a few teams in need of a veteran point guard that Billups would land elsewhere ... maybe quite cheap since the Knicks must pay him if they amnesty him (just wont count against their salary cap.)
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That would be nuts.
But it would also make a ton of sense for both.
I love the rumors. It is fun.
Just to clear things up: It doesn't work that way.
Players waived via amnesty go through a waiver process where teams under the cap can bid on those players. So teams can bid on Richard Jefferson, who has three years left on his deal. If, say, the Pistons wanted him, and they bid $5 million, they are guaranteeing they’d pay $5 million per year for the remainder of his deal. The Spurs would pay the rest. But if they cut him afterwards, they eat the whole thing in one lump sum.
It’s a bit complicated, and it’s not the free agent free-for-all some people expected it to be.
- http://www.bloguin.com/crossoverchronicles/2011-articles/december/how-amnesty-works-and-why-teams-arent-really-using-it.html
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In other words, the amnestied player has basically NO choice on where he goes.
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That's why he's reportedly
looking around for suitors that would possibly take him in a trade, like a sign-and-trade to Dallas for Chandler.
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A one-year expiring?
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Marc Stein
One source w/knowledge of Mavs’ thinking adamant Dallas does not want to take back Billups’ expiring deal in Tyson Chandler sign-and-trade
Trololol
“One source w/knowledge of Mavs’ thinking”.
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Its because Chauncey light them up in the playoffs
I can see why they are butt hurt about associating with him.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
I do think he would be allowed to sign wherever he wants if no team puts a claim in on him though.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 8, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
Why wouldn't a team put in a claim?
They only have to pay whatever their bid is, and the original team plays the rest.
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Just saying, it could happen.
Not sure how many teams need a point guard out there that don’t already have a young one. I could see the Clippers maybe or Lakers if they don’t get Paul.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 8, 2011 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
You're right, it could happen.
But it’s the NBA, I figure someone will spend the money.
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True, owners just can't help themselves.
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Owners of the NBA or MLB?
People complain about the NBA, but MLB is insane.
Mark Buerle signed for 4 years and 58 million. He is an average pitcher on the downside of his career.
Not to mention Pujols.
Make NBA money seem almost reasonable.
How about CJ Wilson getting 4 or 5 years at $77.5 million. It truly is insane. A guy making $25M can play next to a guy making $180,000. Funny stuff. Gah!
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don't want to fire up an old argument
but i do feel a little bad for billups. another year, another move.
Jeff Morton Tweeted out that he has been treated like meat throughout his career, I have to agree with him. One of the most bizarre careers for a good player that I can ever remember seeing.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 8, 2011 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
All true...
I hope Denver offers him a front office job once his career is over with.
On Dallas would he be a backup to J. Kidd
Now that Barea is gone?
I would really like to give him a shot at backup SG behind AAA, but I don’t know if he would like it since the Nuggets treated him like crap during that trade.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
They're saying in Dallas
he might start alongside Kidd and continue to bring the JET off the bech.
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I don't know why, but I am a total sucker for rumors...
… Marc Spears now saying that if Rockets get Pau Gasol then they’ll make hard push for Nene to team him with Pau to form what can only be thought of as one of the softest frontlines in the NBA (unless Nene gets pissed off by Lou Amundson during the games.)
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they'd be called the Charmin duo
So soft that they’re comfortable to defend against…
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And neither is even a center.
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I'd be down with that
Assuming we get a 1st round pick out of it.
I would definitly put in a claim for Chauncey
Play him at the 2. Also if the knicks want to send us turiaf, leads pick pocket another 1st round pick.
Yeah, a pick in 2018
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Bring him back home (And send Andre Miller out for a pick)
Just spoke to Andy Miller, agent for Chauncey Billups, who describes his client as “irate” over possibility of Knicks using amnesty on him.
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Agent Miller on Billups: “He has no intention of being open-minded about any possible situation where a team would claim him off waivers..”
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Wonder what that means? That he wont report to certain teams that claim him? Didn’t work for Kyle Orton.
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I think he's not happy about the idea a team like Minesota could get him
and he’d waste a year of his career
The Knicks looks like a shitshow too
And it seems Amare may be traded to get Paul, when one could contend Amare is better than Melo lol.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
I would think Chauncey might be excited about being the first player to play for every team in the league
I kid. I feel bad that he gets tossed around.
by Pusherman on Dec 8, 2011 1:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think the Hornets would take Amar'e and his shitty knees
I bet the hornets would ask for Melo. Could you imagine melo + his 3 year extension running around New Orleans with Jarret jack, Trevor Ariza, Belinelli, and Okafor…. I’d be eternally laughing at him.
Amare's knees are why it would be him
assuming New York amnestied Billups, cause they burn up there Amare insurance. Which makes me doubt they will amnesty Billups.
I agree they'd rather have Melo, because of his knees
but what team is gonna take Amar’e’s bloated contract and injury issues.
Houston is delirious
I thought they had a smart GM. They seem so desperate its ridiculous. A frontcourt and Nene and Gasol without any real perimeter players (assuming KMart lite is traded) might not even make the playoffs. The only way Houston would get Nene is to sign him to the max to, so their cap would be tied up and they might not make the playoffs.
Is Morey the second coming of Isiah Thomas? It can’t be Morey, he is too smart for this, it must be the owner pressuring him. I have a message for Houston…Hey you guys won a championship already, you are far away from contending, so accept being like the Golden State Warriors and Sacramento Kings and wait for a draft pick.
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Morey is a genius.
Maybe this move isn’t the most perfect, but I see it as a move for the next couple of years, not this upcoming season. I mean, if their biggest problem is not having perimeter players, you could have a lot worse problems.
For one, there are plenty of perimeter plays they could get. Terrico White is a F/A now for example. They still have Kyle Lowry, Jonny Flynn, Courtney Lee, Terrence Williams, and Goran Dragic. Pair those guys up with Nene and Gasol, that’s not a bad team. Plus, they also have New York’s first round pick this year, which could be anywhere from the late lottery to early 20s. At that range players like Teague, Kabongo, Lamb, Marshall, Hairston, and possibly even Austin Rivers or Terrence Jones if they trade up a couple spots or they fall.
Let’s not overreact, Morey =/= Isiah.
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Plus Scola is better than Gasol at this point in their careers
I really don’t understand what Houston is doing.
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And Nene would have to play center
With another guy who plays better at the 4 spot. I think Nene ends up in Denver because he is a center everywhere else.
And if Karl/ Ujiri got to him the guy is loyal enough to stay in Denver. Still don’t know what Houston is smoking.
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Gasol >>>> Scola
He’s a much, much better defender and a more efficient offensive player.
Chauncey:
If you want to retire early, we’d love to have you back here in Park Hill.
Brutal career. Getting traded by your home town team twice and jerked around like crazy. It’s not right.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I feel bad for Billups
Goodness, how crazy that Billups gets tossed around like a $2 hooker. He is an excellent PG. But then again, so has Andre Miller. It seems solid to above solid PG’s can never find a home as teams are looking to always upgrade to a superstar.
But what is shocking to me is that the Knicks would even consider rolling into the season without a legit PG. You need guards to win in this league. Chandler does them no good. Plus, isn’t D’Antoni a huge 3 point shooter guy. Who do they have now!!
Can we say it together now – introducting JR Smith to the New York Knicks.
nah, this is the golden age of point guards. Lots of them all over the place
Getting a good big is most important. It tickles me that the knicks are trying to overpay for tyson chandler.
Caron Butler to the Clippers.
I got the chance to watch 2 Clippers home games live last season, and it’s no joke, SF is their weakest position by far. It was painful watching Gomes and Aminu bring down EJ and Blake.
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Too bad Butler is injury prone
And the team will be coached by Blake as opposed to Vinny Del Negro…just ask Bulls fans.
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It's just a temp move.
With Minnesota’s 1st Round pick in the hands of the Clippers, we could be seeing a core of EJ/Griffin/Harrison Barnes come next season.
(Or even Drummond, Davis, or Sullinger, wow).
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I was kinda hoping we could trade Chandler's rights to the Clippers
But it was always a longshot and now they have Caron.
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plz 2 days ago, it was the bulls who had caron
yesterday, he was going to the spurs. They don’t have him till I see an official announcement from the clippers.
Butler to the Clips seems like a perfect fit, though
But, you are right. Nothing official, really, until tomorrow.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Contracts can be signed in like 8 hours.
These aren’t rumors of interest any more like it was with the Bulls and Spurs, these are rumors of deals.
And we’re not going to get that pick anyway, forget about it.
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I would've thought he'd set a precedent by now lol.
Pull a Boozer and you’ll forever be known as an asshole.
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Wait... So who heard about NY Knicks looking to trade Amar'e?
That would be hilarious but make perfect sense.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Its in the same article as the Chandler deal
It appears whoever gets Chandler gets CP3. I think that trio of Melo, Chandler, and CP3 is better, but they still won’t get far and are way too injury prone.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
the problem is Amar'e and his 100million dallar contract and bad knees makes for bad trade bait
they may end up having to trade melo which would be hilarious
yep
They’re going to have to amnesty him, if they want to be in the running for CP3
They can't
Amnesty him if the amnesty Billups, which they would have to do to get Chandler. Maybe they just amnesty Amar’e, keep Billups and use him in a trade for Paul. That would be crazy, since Amar’e is was started the exodus to NY.
Best off-season EVER
They should do this every year: compress all the free agent activity to a narrow time frame.
So much more fun, amirite?
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I agree
…unless, fo course, you are a fan of the NO Hornets
Shouldn't be an NO Hornets
And about three other small market teams, come to think of it.
Big fan of contraction right here.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
no kidding
Could be a crazy late night once midnight Eastern time hits, and tomorrow will be even more nutz!
by jd80229 on Dec 8, 2011 2:13 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
From Sean Devaney
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Had heard that the Nuggets were in the Al Thornton market. That’s cooled now. Most likely for Thornton: Charlotte and New Orleans.
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Sucks for Thornton
These are two teams that are sure to be bottom feeders and likely candidates for contraction.
But good for Denver.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Oh god.
RT @SpearsNBAYahoo Wiz free agent SF Josh Howard is attracted to signing with team DEN FA C Nene signs with, source tells Y! SA, Chi, Den, NO, Utah, NJ in mix
I don’t understand.
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Was just about to post this ^
I’d prefer Thaddeus Young
He wants to sign with whoever signs Nene
He must think Nene is a complementary player to his game or something. Denver does need some help on the wing with Will Chandler and JR Smith in China. I’d be OK with that.
But not at the expense of not signing AAA. Need a SG more than a SF.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Congregations in Hawaii and California
If they had locations in Brazil and Denver, my opinion might be swayed. We know Nene is a religious man, after all.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
can't imagine it be at the expense of anyone
Howard has been a walking injury the past two seasons no way he commands much money
If Pau was a FA, then sure.
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Not interested in two undersized centers
…. who don’t want to play center.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Play Gasol at PF
And Nene doesn’t have to worry about rebounding!
What could be trade to get this, Pau Gasol for a reasonable offer?
not excited about Pau anymore
Especially side by side with Nene…are we trying to have an all FIBA front line or something? No thanks…
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Pau is superior to his brother
did Kobe win those championships? NO, it was Pau, without him they would not of beaten the Celtics only 2 years ago.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
Just heard deenver is one of a few teams to offer Deandre Jordan an offer sheet.
RT @WojYahooNBA: The bidding to sign Clips’ DeAndre Jordan to an offer sheet likely to include G-State, Houston, New Orleans and Denver.
1 hour ago
Nate should be upset you didn't read his article. :P
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Woj also reporting teams that will offer restricted free agent DeAndre Jordan a contract tomorrow: Denver, Golden State, Houston, and New Orleans. Clips would have three days to match any offer.
- Nate Timmons
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I am a DeAndre fan
Very young and athletic guy. Fits the running style that we don’t see enough of here in Denver.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Although to be fair, if we don't get Pau
Deandre/Moz
Nene/Faried
Gallo/Al Fattington
AAA/ Forbes?
Lawson/Miller
would be a decent, young team.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
Hamilton.
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ah yea, that guy
Is Forbes looking to be signed by us? I think he is a great 3rd option at shooting guard.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
That's in the story above...sheesh!
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Oh, I haven't seen that joke in a long while!
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hmmm............
According to Kalen Deremo, #Nuggets in talks w NY, SAC in three team deal that would bring Tyson Chandler to #Denver.
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You gotta be kidding.
I wouldn’t touch Chandler with a 10-foot pole.
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really?
him and nene would be a dominant frontcourt.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 8, 2011 2:41 PM MST up reply actions
Injury-prone, already 28, etc.
As I saw on Twitter (from @Suga_Shane, another NBA Blogger):
RT @Suga_Shane Tyson Chandler at anything over $8 mil a season is ridiculous. He’s a specialist that can’t create a shot to save his life.
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If anything, I'd say Moz can do enough at a fraction of the price.
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he won't be worth what he signs for,
but 8m is ridiculous. he’s one of the few true centers out there and was a key piece for dallas’s championship run.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 8, 2011 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
also,
we don’t need our center creating shots. It’s a great fit.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 8, 2011 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
We also don't need a player we'd need insurance for.
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Then why don't we just play him?
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Well, he's still more or less a prospect.
if this rumor’s true, Nugs are clearly trying to win now.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 8, 2011 2:53 PM MST up reply actions
Wait, who is that guy? o.O
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no idea
but its been retweeted a few times
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I actually meant the guy who tweeted that.
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a few people retweeted it
one of which is a journalist straight out of CSU… not sure how credible the source is
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No, not the retweets, the original tweet.
Only tweet I can find through searching is a “Rich Kurtzman”?
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yep
hold on there’s another
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not sure how credible this guy is...
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Denver could be involved in a 3-team trade with New York and Sacramento centered around Tyson Chandler.
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Now that's GoldenNugget. :P
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i think that means we are just involved for salary dump
hello Ronnie Turiaf
Chandler/Nene?
That could work. Chandler can’t shoot worth a damn, but he is tough minded and can rebound. Nene can’t rebound worth a damn, can score effectively and is soft. It would be like a blind man and a deaf man handcuffed together forever.
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yea
I highly doubt that happens. What if it did and Chris Paul wanted to come to Denver and all NO wanted was Ty Lawson?
Paul/Mille
AAA/HAM
Gallo/ Josh Howard?
Nene/Faried/Kouf
Chandler/ Moz/Bird
Pretty good team actually
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Why would Chris Paul want to come to Denver?
Nevermind its a small team, he always sucks when playing in Denver because his “I need the ball all the time” routine would tire him out to death after 24 minutes.
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i keep hearing
Paul wants to go where Chandler goes vise versa… Paul could look at the trip of Nene/Chandler and Gallo and say “I want in on that” one because none of them are really ball demanding playing like both melo and amare so he can still take as many shots as he wants and he can be the main man still. Will this happen? Absolutely not.
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I still would say Pauls chances of signing here would be less than 5%
He has never publicly stated he is interested in Denver.
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lol i know thats why
i said will it happen? Absolutely not.
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I think you misread his Tweet:
24kGoldenChild Kalen Deremo
Denver could be involved in a 3-team trade with New York and Sacramento centered around Tyson Chandler.
That’s just blogger speculation as well. But it’s not about Tyson in Denver, it’s him in NY w/ Denver maybe trying to help facilitate by taking on salary and maybe see about getting draft picks.
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It's gonna be awhile before the Nuggets get a Kings draft pick.
They’ve already traded a conditional pick to the Cavs (basically anything not in the lottery) so it’s not likely to be worth a whole lot to Denver.
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Turiaf = Nuggets
It would be like the Knicks have taken over from the Pistons as our trading partner. What would be giving up in that deal? What do people think of Ronny’s game? Seems like there would be more to this story…
by Boulder_Matthew on Dec 8, 2011 7:01 PM MST up reply actions
I wanted Turiaf on the Nuggets
3 years ago when we still had melo and had no rebounder. Now that the Nuggets have an abundance of bigs and are lacking in the wing category a deal for Turiaf makes no sense to me.
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Well if we were to trade the following for Chris Paul
It wouldn’t be a bad haul for the Hornets…
Ty Lawson
Mozgov
Al Harrington
NY’s 2014 1st rounder
Denver’s 2013 1st rounder
And we’d be in good shape…
Chris Paul/Andre Miller
AAA/Hamilton
Gallo/Forbes
Nene/Faried/Bird
Chandler/Birdman/Koufos
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But I'm afraid it wouldn't be more than a 1-year rental of CP3.
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If we're able to swing Tyson Chandler
Pretty sure CP3 signs long term…
With AAA and Gallo emerging we’d be contenders
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I'm in the minority
But I don’t want anything to do with CP3. Or Tyson Chandler.
I like CP3
but if we have to give up a lot of cap space for Chandler and picks, the difference between him and Ty isn’t really worth it imo.
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Tomorrow will be exciting though
We’;; know what kind of team we will have by the time Nene inks a deal.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
I have to work tomorrow
Tempted to be “sick” just so I can stay home and monitor the Twitters.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Only one class
From 8 to 9 tomorrow. Will have Twitter open while I study for finals all day tomorrow.
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Not interested in Tyson Chandler
Ugh.
Unless that three-way deal is just so we can deal him for someone who is, you know, awesome and a good fit.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
+1
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I second that
Chandler is hugely overrated. He is worth 8 mil max.
Nene is worth close to a max deal so I am ok with that, but hell no to Chandler.
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by JR15 on Dec 8, 2011 3:01 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Guys, relax
I’ve heard that Knicks want us to absorb Turiaf’s contract. Not sure what Sac has to do with this though
its just a guess
but why else would Sacramento be involved other then too take salary, guess we could always be taking Billups and them Turiaf
We have almost as much cap space as Sac
not counting Nene and AAA.
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Fredette about it!
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Can I say again
I love all these rumors, no matter how crazy.
So much fun.
Here’s one…Kobe to the Nuggets for G. Gorbes…but only if he gets JR’s old locker.
Oh, Blake...
blakegriffin Blake Griffin
Hey guys I just got traded…
blakegriffin Blake Griffin
Stupid autocorrec. I meant say I just got to Trader Joes, the grocery store. Gonna do some shopping.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Proud to have his jersey.
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"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
That's hilarious.
He has a great sense of humor and, boy, can he dunk.
The Slam Dunk Competition dunk was a joke, though. Product placement has no place in drunks, for fuck’s sake.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
So what's up with Chauncey? Think he comes back here?
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no
unfortunately not. Not unless LA loses out on Paul and decides they want to give us Lamar Odom for Andre Miller, NY 1st and Kouf
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So people, place your odds
what are the chances the Lakers get Afflalo?
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Pretty Slim I'd imagine
They don’t have the cap space and I don’t think they’d have anyone we’d want…
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YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH
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http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/12/7/2617883/nba-laboratory-givin-kobe-bryant-the-business
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Lucky!
Going back home for winter break, not getting back until around Jan. 16th. Missing a huge chunk of games. (Not that I have money for tickets anyway)
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I love how you guys are going nuts over Tyson Chandler to Denver via NY and Sac.
That is a trade that can’t even possibly happen. If Chandler is part of a sign-and-trade it’d be with the Dallas Mavericks, the team that owns his bird-rights.
Chandler is signing as a free agent with the Knicks, or is close to doing so.
In order for Chandler to sign in New York:
A) the Knicks have to get rid of Ronny Turiaf and Chauncey Billups. Knicks looking for teams to take on either guy.
B) Knicks have to trade Turiaf and amnesty Billups.
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Rumour has it that Chauncey is pissed because
he has been amnestied already.
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So sayeth the Twitter
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Someone thought we could acquire Pau Gasol
Via free agency, so people here just get really excited. Also I think most people know that Chandler isn’t coming to Denver, but just entertained the thought based on the weird tweet from some self procalimed 24K child.
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That’s our reader Golden Nuggets aka 24KGoldenChild aka Kalen at Roundball Mining Company.
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If really got that whole discussion started
He should be slapped. It was so many orders of ridiculous.
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CORRECTION from WOJ
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Correction: The proposed deal to the Lakers is Chris Paul for Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, source says.
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SHIT!!!
Now they can get D12 too…fffffffffffffffffff X100000000000000
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Still they lost a lot of size
Even if they get D12. I will wait for the dominoes to fall before I freak out
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Ermm. D12?
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Is that my favorite player? Really?
I like him, but he’s not my favorite. That is KMart.
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I though we were lol
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Oh snap.
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Yeah
There’s got to be more to this deal. If they land Dwight, forget about it.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Whoaaaaaaaaa
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It's also been rumored that the Lakers were hesitating
So the Hornets were zeroing in on a deal with the Celtics, one simplified from the previous attempts at three team flings.
IKR?
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So the Lakers have no front court now?
So it’ll be
Chris Paul
Kobe
Artest
Character?
Bynum
It really doesn’t scare me as much now…
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I think they are going to package
Bynum, World Peace and Fisher to the Magic who will have to accept because Stern has a gun to Otis Smith’s head.
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Bad year to be KK
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Khloe has to live in Louisiana now.
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Lol at least she can cheer for a football team now
If she cares to do that.
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Oh and Kim can get back together with Reggie...
it all makes sense now.
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Reggie is in Miami lol.
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Wait, what?
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Well shit...
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And signed Darren Sproles out of SD.
Best FA acquisition in the entire NFL imo.
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I knew about Sproles, but for some reason not Bush....lol
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Oh god.
I’m a Saints fan. Do I have to see a Kardashian at the game now?!
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I meant Kris Humphries..
oh wait he didn’t change his name…my bad
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Yeah this is important news in light of this CP3 trade
Jk I love all the NBA news possible. I really feel bad for Humphries. But its not like you couldn’t see it coming. No one can tie that girl down.
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Pictures on the web say otherwise...
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They are lies
Just like the wedding was a $17 million lie. Humphries was used and abused!
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Yeah
I’m not sold Orlando is going to trade to the Lakers or even rush to give up Dwight.
DenverStiffs > MileHighReport
This is my sense as well
All reports are that they will wait until the trade deadline to get the best possible deal.
Like Denver did with Melo.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I'm not sold that Dwight wants to up and leave
Like Melo and CP3.
Also, Dwight is not a douche like the other two.
DenverStiffs > MileHighReport
We may hate the Lakers.
But be grateful it isn’t us. I mean look at this.
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I remember when it was us
Back in January…
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Methinks CP3 will be much more hated by Hornets fans
than Melo will be by Nuggets fans.
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More from Woj
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Hornets working to finalize details on 3-team deal to send Chris Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets and Odom, KMart, Scola to NO, sources say.
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Odom, Kmart, Scola
Okafor, Ariza, Jarrett Jack, Bellinelli, Pondexter.
Fans, your 2011-2012 New Orleans Hornets!
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Would need to renounce David West's rights apparently to make it work.
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Gasol to the Rockets??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Hey, that's one less suitor for Nene
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Well that's true....
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Oh crap would Lakers try to sign Nene?
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No money
Nene wants to make bank and the Lakers are still over the cap. It would have to be a S&T with us.
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Ah gotcha
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Frankly I don't think the Nuggets organization
Would be amenable to any trade with the Lakers that makes them better. So very low chance of happening
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Rumors earlier were floating of the Rockets still going after Nene
So the houston rockets could feature a “Charmin” sponsored frontcourt of
Nene and Pau Gasol
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this trade seriously makes all 3 teams worse
lakers with no front court….
Hornets- a collection of solid players-maybe still an 8 seed
Rockets-no wing players. Resurrection of old grizz team
Lakers are getting Howard for Bynum + whatever
Book it.
Granted, their other 9 players (not Kobe, CP3, Dwight) are going to really, really suck, so…
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
That seems to be the new NBA model
…in the big markets. 3 “superstars” and fillers.
I mean, you thought the non-Big 3 Heat players sucked
Wait til you see who else is on the Lakers
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
if you have 3 superstars though
you just need a wing player to hit wide open 3 pointers, and a front court player who can scrap with bigger guys, albeit not as good.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
+1000 on the Rockets
I was about to say resurrection of the Grizzlies. It may actually be worse b/c Gasol had Jason Williams, Mike Miller and Battier when they were good in Memphis. Houston now has… Kyle Lowry, ugh this just smells of desperation to me.
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So many more dominos to fall before the trade deadline
And if things really are this crazy, it is just an indication that the owners aren’t taking this 66-game series seriously. And if they aren’t, do you think the players are going to be motivated to compete some nights during this crazy schedule? Ugh.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Hornets have their own draft pick next year.
So it might not be all that bad. Maybe they can flip the guys they’re getting for some younger players with upside or more picks.
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This is exciting from Hcchman tweets
nuggetsnews Benjamin Hochman
Cory Higgins, a former U of Colorado standout, will be a #nuggets training camp invitee, league source said
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add dragic to that concoctted trade
e Kyler
RT @ESPNSteinLine: sources tell ESPN that HOU would send Kevin Martin, Luis Scola and Goran Dragic to N.O. for Gasol
I read that as Tragic at first....
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This is tragic
If the Lakers get Dwight Howard. Then the NBA is fucked.
NOTHING was learned from the previous years, and the small markets once again take it in the ass.
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At least shaq will give dwight no end of shit.
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Afflalo is Boss.
by love4nuggets on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 PM MST up reply actions
Our key to stopping the Lakers
Re-sign Dantay Jones!!!! I am kind of serious about this
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Actually....
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Yeah but not as good as DJ on CP3
I mean sign DJ for a vet min and only use him at Lakers games, or maybe sign him before the playoffs if we play the Lakers.
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But dirty against the Lakers is so much more fun!
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even if AAA is not as good, which he is close to being
he still is a much better offensive player than Jones. Thus making AAA the better player by far.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
Oh I agree that AAA is way better than DJ
I just think DJ would be amazing to have against the Lakers given how he pisses their new backcourt off so much.
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Put AAA on Kobe and DJ on CP3
I would love to see the Lakers deal with that.
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I want to know
if Hamilton is going to be the backup to Gallo and not Al Harrington, DJ would make a great backup SG for AAA.
It would be great defense throughout the entire game.
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that would actually be awesome
as long as we don’t expect DJ to make layups if an opponent is within 2 feet of him
Well his offense wasn't bad for the Pacers two seasons ago for the first 35 games or so
I think he was averaging around 17 points a game. I think it can translate well playing 28 minutes a game against the other teams backup players since with the Pacers he was a starter.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
Between making Kobe fall by himself
and pissing off CP3 to the point of tantrum
I can be on board with this
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The players obviously won...
The lockout was a joke. We should just blow up the team, because we have no chance to win as currently constructed. If we overpay on Nene, it’s going to set back the franchise five years.
Lakers will probably get Dwight next too.
by nugzin2040 on Dec 8, 2011 4:39 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Can the Nets save the Nuggets twice in a year?
I hope so. DWill, Jay-Z and Brooklyn should be enough for Dwight to re-sign.
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As you say
Nugz in 2040. Got plenty of time to screw around until 2040
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Who knows what will finally come down
RT @WojYahooNBA: Hornets have started to inform teams they’re sending Chris Paul to Lakers for Bynum and Odom, league sources tell Y!.
No picks remember the NBA owns the Hornets
And wants to contract them ASAP.
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Let's hope they don't stop there
Another three teams need the axe.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Would that be good or bad for the league though?
Those big market teams need to increase their win %, I don’t know how Stern would feel about this.
I think the next team will be Milwaukee if NO gets axed though to balance out the conferences.
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It isn't about balance
But revenue.
New Orleans, Sacramento, Minnesota and Charlotte are losing money and don’t get decent local ratings and / or people in the seats.
Sacto is likely going to move, though. So who knows where that 4th team will come from.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I agree with this
But it might be a bit late for this.
I mean, the Cubs and the White Sox survive because of the history. The trouble is, it may well be hard to compete against the draw that is the Bulls.
Then again, the Clippers don’t do so bad… Hmm.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
The Avs???
I don’t see the Nuggets leaving unless Stan takes them to St. Louis, which is a worse bball market for sure.
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And
It is good for the league. Less diluted talent = better basketball.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Eh, I agree
I mean, who honestly gives a damn about Basketball in New Orleans? Why are the owners placing them in these terrible Basketball cities? It makes no sense.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
I don't think anyone really knows anything
It’s all propaganda and disinformation at this point.
And a whole lotta fun!
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Then a minute later comes this
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Correction: The proposed deal to the Lakers is Chris Paul for Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, source says.
I don't think CP3 and Kobe together would work well together
When the team starts to lose in a game Kobe wants the ball the entire time. CP3 would not be on board with that after awhile.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
Except for Robert Awful.
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Ankles?
I thought his fingers would be sore from repeatedly pushing the Stern Button and doing his deed by trading Paul to the Lakers.
Next on the list is to send his minions to the Magic.
He is probably saying in his emperor voice “I am afraid the deflector shield (for big market teams) will be quite operational when the small market teams arrive.”
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Stern isn't the one taking it
He is doling it out and laughing while doing so
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dont be so sure
he has to make sure the largest markets are producing the most income. he’ll do anything to make sure that happens ;)
Yeah thats what I mean
He is the one doling it out to the small market teams. He isn’t bending over, he is making the small markets bend over.
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Bending over implies he doesn't want to do it
Stern is gladly facilitating this no forcing necessary. The small teams and their fans are the ones with sore you know whats.
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Then further clarification
AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
It sounds like the Lakers had agreed to send Bynum and Odom to New Orleans but reneged. Then, Hornets agreed to take Gasol and Odom instead.
Maybe if they reneg again the Hornets will take Metta World Crazy and a bag of chips
Hey, at least NO tried right? Right?
Just thinking the Knicks really screwed the pooch
So their big 3 is Amare “pirate” Stoudemire, Melo, and Tyson “not the chicken, the one who always gets injured” Chandler?
Even the homer NY fans know this won’t work. Especially since you are amnestying a finals MVP PG and your backup is Toney Douglas.
I am kinda happy as a Nuggets fan that the Knicks experiment will fail miserably, but I feel bad for Chauncey. I kinda want him to sign with the Heat so he can win again…but then again F LBJ.
Come back and be a GM for the Nuggets Chauncey, we love you here!!!
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That team won't be any good.
No Good, no good. At least Melo will get his endorsements.
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I think Feinstein is right
Melo will be the new Antoine Walker of the league especially when his injury prone frontcourt will be sitting on the bench relatively soon.
With Chandler asking for max money and knowing Dolan will fork it over without thinking,,, this could be worse than the Isiah era.
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I stand corrected
Chandler at $14.5 mil per year. But I believe anything over $8 mil/ yr for that guy is ludicrous.
Will be interesting to see that team without a real PG. I guess everyone in NY is praying Shumpert can be something lol.
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Now I can ask this question expecting it to happen
Is that 2014 pick lottery protected? Maybe it was top-3 protected. I hope so, because I have a good feeling it will be a lottery pick.
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That picture must be huge!
Feel bad for people viewing this on their mobile.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
so how much is Nene getting paid?
5yr/90mil?? Thats alot but i think nene is worth it. Nene at PF is a good thing to me. If nene stays a nugget i believe his usage will go up along with points an assists.
That sounds good to me
But I know earlier in the summer I was saying "no way is he worth more than $12 m / year. Funny how the free market can drive up costs.
See why I’m a socialist.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
70 mil for nene would be a steal imo
there is a reason his is the #1 FA this year.
Now that the Laker frontcourt
Features Bynum and Metta world peace, Nene will have some fun!! Especially cuz Bynum will be injured midway through the season with those b2b2bs
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Also, remember
bynum misses the first 5 games due to his tantrum in the playoffs.
A tantrum should just be called Bytrum now
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He should patent it
The kick the 5’7" guy and then take your shirt off as you storm off the floor, while getting blown out….CLASSIC Bynum
Nene actually does well against Howard
For some reason the Nuggets do well against Howard, we just had problems defending all those 3s the Magic shot.
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Hey
at least it is better than there being no NBA, this is fun by comparison. :P
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Well I have enjoyed the baseball winter meetings to tide me over
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No really I have.
Watching the brouhaha over Pujols and the Marlins spending money they don’t have ? Brilliant!
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The team gets to acquire Pau Gasol while coming out about $13 million below the salary cap, enough to potentially sign Denver Nugget free agent Nene.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
As I said Houston is delirious
If they can’t get Nene, they won’t because we will offer Nene more money and have a better backcourt.
They better trade Gasol quick, cuz they aren’t doing a good job of rebuilding right now.
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the want to improve without, rebuilding
They managed to improve the pf spot, but still lack a center, and they ditched their best player with kevin martin. The move was stupid imo
I might be alone in this thinking
But I think the Lakers are gonna be worse with that deal…Pau and Odom were such a crucial part of their success and I just don’t see those 3 egos being able to co-exist
If this is all they do
They will certainly be worse.
But the aren’t gonna stop there. No way. Something is going to happen where Bynum gets dealt and D12 ends up there. Not right away. But surely before the trade deadline.
when is that, by the way?
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You aren't alone
They lost their biggest edge which was their size. If Nene re-signs we will now have the biggest frontcourt in the West
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But we can't forget AAA
Having a solid SG who can check Bryant and others and hit clutch 3s is essential to being competitive.
I’m serious. All Denver needs to do is bring in its two restricted free agents and the Nuggets are a contending team in the west. That simple. Ujiri best not mess this up.
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AAA in Denver is pretty much a given.
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I hope so.
But I keep hearing things that make me scared, like him Tweeting that Simmons article that puffed him up.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
and even bigger and better if we get R. Turiaf
Masai and josh are pushing GK into a bigger lineup. I like it. Nuggets will be excellenct rebounders
Hmm so
we got the Heat with Bron Bosh and Wade, the Knicks with Amare, Melo and CHandler and now the Lakers with Paul, Kobe and soon to be D12.
The Knicks are the worst by far, LA is an injury away from not having a competative team and with Kobe getting old and CP3 injury prone that’s not good for them and then Miami is just Miami.
In short, if Denver can keep Nene and AAA as well as add a piece like Thadeus Young I think the Nuggets still have a legit shot at competing with all these teams. Miami slowly is getting deeper but older at the same time. Honestly when it comes down to it I think I would take the youth and depth that the Nuggets have over what LA and New York have. Should be interesting. Lets just hope AAA and Nene resign, Moz turns into a beast, Nene can average around 20 ppg as a PF, Gallo around 20 ppg, Ty and AAA around 15 each and then our rookies actually turn into something.
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but Nene at PF and a healthy AAA and Gallo makes for a much more interesting match up than what was put on the court last year in the playoffs.
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Plus Faried and we utilize the Russian.
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agreed
Also having a 7’1 C and 6’10" Pf is better than a 6’10" C and a 6’8" PF. And we have manimal
If we re-sign AAA and Nene
Our only threat is OKC. I said it before. Our size will dominate most teams, and I have faith Ujiri will bring in another nice free agent to shore up our bench.
I miss JR, I wish we had that crazy guy (every championship team needs one), he would be great in that role. Still I have faith in Ujiri.
Get it done you magnificent bastard, this is the perfect time to do it!!
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Knucklehead.
Martin was our crazy guy.
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Hey Nate time for an updated article
What does paul in LA mean for the west? Should the nuggs go after the pieces? Odom, Scola Martin? NO will be starting over from scratch not keeping these older players.
First things first: RE-SIGN OUR GUYS!!
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by Kevin L on Dec 8, 2011 5:24 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
I bet you the first few weeks
of the season will be used to pad Bynum’s stats to make a push for Howard
But Bynum isn't playing early in the season because of well doing the Bynum in the playoffs
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So
I love how Miami and LA build around superstars who score and play D yet New York builds a team full of chuckers all around rebounding center. Interesting and funny at the same time. LA looks like the most complete team with a star PG, C and then a scorer with Bryant yet they are the most injury prone team. Miami is the most freakish team but lack a true PG and C which is arguably the two most demanding positions to succeed and then New York has the best front line in the NBA yet has no guards or true PG and no defense.
Each team has a definate flaw and in can fail in many ways. The only reason the Heat made the playoffs is because the East is extremely weak and the teams that can compete are old a la Boston. I thought I was extremely mad at these megateams forming but when really dissecting them they all have serious flaws. Denver as constructed and barring the resigning of AAA and Nene shows has the potential to address all the serious hole the megateams have. Key word is potential thus meaning Ty, Gallo, Nene, Moz etc all have to improve from what they have been doing. The key is the megateams have their flaws but really no way to address them. Im glad to say im more optimistic than I was a week ago. This is all based on if the Nuggets indeed keep Nene and AAA.
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Shhh.
Remember, Low-key.
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oh yea oops...I meant to say
The Mega teams will destroy us and we’ll never be able to compete without a true mega super ultra hyper STAR!
You don't want Stern to figure that out
Then he will force small market teams to overpay for superstars past their primes and will give the young talent to the big market teams.
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god i hope dwight ends up in Brooklyn
instead of in LA. seeing the lakers try and ride Bynum to a title will be hilarious.
all the more reason
to love the nuggies. The heat have talent but lack depth. Same thing with New York, fragile front court with old punch and run. In LA- If you blow on Bynums knees it would be assured that he would out three games. Basketball is about depth and proper talent, something the Nuggets had and must keep.
The Knicks have no depth
And Chandler can’t operate without a decent PG so he will be ineffective (btw how did Chandler ascend to stardom anyway? Wasn’t he washed up in Charlotte?)
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as an avid laker hater
I am delighted with this trade. Unless it means they can also get D12, in which case I pretty much quit the NBA.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 8, 2011 5:45 PM MST up reply actions
yep.
I hope Dwight goes to New Jersey or even the Clippers, but I imagine he goes to the Lakers.
I don't see D12 going to the Lakers
He will resign in Orlando or go to the Nets.
Book it.
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one thing that's reported
is that Dwight doesn’t want to “follow” Shaq. Shaq’s already stirred things up regarding Dwight and him being the real “superman” and all that. I bet him and deron williams team up in brooklyn.
New stuff guys
Dallas will not assist the Knicks with a sign and trade of Tyson for Chandler. They are looking for another team to absorb or will use amnesty.
If you read that article linked to by our own killer TyLawesome
Woj was speculating that given who NO took in trade that they likely aren’t done making deals.
Who the hell do they want?
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Woj thinking they won't want to keep Odom
After this year his contact isn’t guaranteed which might be attractive to other teams.
Guess I'm the only one that's pessimistic
Gah! I should really change my username to nugzin2060 at this point.
Much prefer the Nuggets' younger solid base
All these other pieces are all on borrowed time or wobbly limbs
Would you count it if the Nuggets won this year?
Or would it be an asterik championship and we would have to wait till 2060?
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Wow I am really sipping the Kool-aid
But from what I see now, I think the window has become wide open, I say lets jump in and get er done
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Exactly
At this point I hope we build with Ty, Faried, Afflalo, Gallo, Hamilton, Moz and Kouf.
If we sign Nene for a near max deal, I’m going to throw up.
What's up Stiffs?
LONG time no talk. Well bball is back on so it’s time to pay attention to it again. Have the Nuggets signed Pujols yet?…ah damn…I’m rusty. TEBOW…nope still wrong…oh hey…Nene! There we go!
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hey now
I’ve heard they will sign Tebow to play PF if Nene leaves.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 8, 2011 5:46 PM MST up reply actions
fffffff
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When you think of it
someone Tebowing is a good launching point for a Ty dunk
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This sounds dirtier than it has any right to
I approve.
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What was Farieds nickname again? I feel like calling him Knuckles.
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Big Al is gonna come through for us this year
Fully healed plantar and he’ll be good to go. The guy can still play IMO
I actually think Al
Will stay true to his word and improve this season. I would be a fan if he could spot and hit his 3s well.
I still think we need an SG after we sign AAA. And I have faith Ujiri will take care of that.
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So the Lake show gets smaller. I'm ready to throw down, now.
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Have the Spurs signed a newborn yet, to lower their average age to 37?
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Fisher, Luke and LA takes Turk’s contract.
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The Nets are moving next year, correct?
Can’t remember
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surely orlando can do better than that, right?
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 8, 2011 5:58 PM MST up reply actions
Somewhere along those lines.
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look at the haul NO just revceived
and I’d say Howard is a tier above CP3. He’s probably second to lebron in most desirable players to have right now in the league.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 8, 2011 6:00 PM MST up reply actions
Best. Pure. Center.
He’s more desirable then Bron.
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hell
If Howard wanted to come to Denver, I’d give him Gallo, Faried, Nene, Lawson and a first rounder.
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Yeah Brook Lopez has way more potential than Bynum
And at least NJ can offer draft picks/ take Turkoglo’s contract
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D-Will is a better pnr PG.
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To be honest Lopez and Bynum are kinda washes on potential
I should say at least Lopez doesn’t throw tantrums when he is getting blown out which is sure to happen on a rebuilding Orlando squad.
And Lopez is way less injury prone :)
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Disneyland?
then there is no more competition in the Disney tourist department, which comprises 90% of their fanbase probably, with Tiger Woods and his groupies the other 10.
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Don't know if I can go to one of those again
the way the Lakers fans take over the building is disgusting
It's especially disgusting...
When you drive 1600 miles after finals week, to watch the nuggets lay an egg in game 6 of the wcf’s.
Oh, You were at that game...
I was too. It sucked. And worse yet, I went with some friends and one of them was a Lakers fan.
In other news the lockout is officially over!!!
Looks like no more fake and rakes…what will Kevin Martin do in NO??? He can only average 6ppg (of his 2 3s that werent FT attempts).
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7329584/nba-alters-emphasis-shooting-fouls-2011-12
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So i hope the nuggets get billups..
Pipe Dream… Yes..
But i really want to.. Its an upgrade to the point then Miller, and i think it was andrew who said this.. but ty is like JJ Barea.. Is a decent pg, but i just dont see ty ever being more then your above average point guard.. Un like billups who is a Superstar, who gets treated like a bench warmer when it comes to trades :l. But in reality Billups would make the rebuilding process very short, plus a good pic next season and we are right back to being contenders.. IMO Billups took denver out of the frst round in 09, not Anthony.
Billups is an old bastard
Let Lawson have his first season starting at point guard before we jump to bumping him to the JJ Barea category.
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Wat? Please don't use Billups and bastard in the same sentence.
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by the nuggets fan on Dec 8, 2011 6:27 PM MST up reply actions
Unless of course it's magnificent bastard...then maybe but even that is a stretch.
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could not agree anymore
Chauncey is very underrated.
by the nuggets fan on Dec 8, 2011 6:29 PM MST up reply actions
I'm sick of it
Billups was good, but he isn’t a Denver saint or something. He was one of the reasons we sucked in his last year here because he kept chucking 3 pointers like the plague.
If you ask me, Good Riddance. I mean no hate towards him but he isn’t John Elway, not even 1/100th of Elway.
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Ok you
only saw the first two months of the season.. because around januaruy Billups was playing all star level again
by the nuggets fan on Dec 8, 2011 6:30 PM MST up reply actions
He was decent
but Lawson was so much better than him. Billups is an old man now, I don’t want an old man anchoring the point guard spot in a young team possibly coming to terms with rebuilding. Especially with his terrible contract. You just would want to hinder Lawson’s growth, you are saying he isn’t the future when he hasn’t even had a whole season being the starter. He has shown glimpses of brilliance.
Thank God Billups is gone, that old bastard.. I owe him a drink I suppose but I will never forget the first season he was here, those were good times.
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but really old bastard? Give me a frakkin' break.
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A couple points
First, I think it’s kind of funny CP3 is going to the Lakers rather than Knicks because Melo expected CP3 to end up in NY with him the whole time. Second, these deals make me proud of our front office for the Melo deal. In my opinion, we got a better deal for Melo than any of these other teams are getting for their big names.
Ujiri is a magnificent bastard
Also I think he screwed the Trailblazers by getting two good players for one decent one. Book it Hamilton will be good and Trailblazers fans will be shaking their heads.
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Not true
He had his bad games, but he won us the game in LA.
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Oh that was on Lord of the Flies levels.
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I feel like you missed the point
See: post above yours.
He was clutch SOME games, and not clutch OTHER games.
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Just to add on to my pipe dream
PG Billups/Lawson
SG AAA/ Miller/ Hamilton/Forbes
SF Gallo/ Big Al/Forebs/Faired
PF Nene/Faired
C The Moz/Bird/Kosta/ Nene
I didn't like Billups playing in front of Ty last year
I love the guy but he’s lost a few steps and had big time trouble staying in front of opposing PG’s
If we get Billups
We should trade Miller for a SG.
Again, I want Billups too, but I don’t know how it would work.
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I'm opposed to doing that to Ty
he’s been given the keys already, it’s messed up to take them away like that
Yes i realize that
but that would be maybe a trade deadline move
by the nuggets fan on Dec 8, 2011 6:27 PM MST up reply actions
You dont know anything about PR then
Its good for the team, even if we dont start Billups hes better than miller, and Its good PR because MOST nuggets and denver people will reembrace Billups, no one wanted to trade him in the first place
by the nuggets fan on Dec 8, 2011 6:32 PM MST up reply actions
Miller is a better option because of his contract
both are old point guards who are just showing Lawson the rope. Andre’s pass first mentality will work better with mentoring Lawson anyways, and he will show Lawson how to play a half-set a lot better than Billups would, and he can teach him all about the Alley oops.
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by CloudBurst on Dec 8, 2011 6:34 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
how so?
They are both on 1 year deals, Billups at 14 mil and Miller at 8 Mil
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you wouldn't tak his whole contract off waivers
it’s bidding, you could get him for under miller’s 8
At this point Billups is probably an upgrade over Miller
But I don’t know if he can accept a backup spot, because he will have to accept a backup spot to Ty.
I also don’t think he wants to return to a team that has traded him twice.
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Miller:better passer (sweet lob passes) Billups:better shooter
everything else is pretty much a wash IMO
Then I'd rather have Miller
Given he will have plenty of big dudes to throw lobs to.
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Which= "we got killed in the Melo trade"
The guy is a clever fox, don’t believe what he says, just what he does.
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It's still painful to watch.
The Hornets are getting closer and closer to contraction with each passing moment.
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Houston is trying hard for Nene
come on big man stay in Denver please!!!!!!!
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What with their $13 mil
When we have more money and talent here? I guess it makes it interesting, but I am not worried anymore, Nene will come to his senses.
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idk man
you just never know
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Are they trying to team up both Gasols?
That would be one of the better frontcourts in basketball. I think they have 16mil if they amnesty thabeet.
Huh?
no Pau is staying in Houston i believe my man
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But could Marc Gasol sign for the max in HOU
Kinda slow but skilled frontcourt
oh maybe
all Houston has to offer is 13 mil tops… they can’t offer a Max i don’t believe
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No, they're done with Nene
would suprise me if they offered the remainder of that space to either DeAndre Jordan or Marc Gasol. A double Gasol front court would be weird.
who Houston?
All reports say they are working Nene hard as we speak.
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Rockets turning attention back to Nene, pushing hard to get deal done. Will almost certainly take $12-14M per year average.
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Houston will try
Unfortunately it will drive Nene’s price up, but I am ok paying Nene $15 mil.
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They can probably offer close to that
Even more if they amnesty Thabeet.
Wow
now Woj and ESPN is saying the Owners want Stern to not allow the CP3 trade to go down and Stein is saying it has hit a snag or is in serious jeopordy. Wasn’t Melo “traded” 3 times before it even happened? Yea, I think we are going to see the same thing all over again.
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RT @WojYahooNBA: NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers
Why are they killing it?
It makes the Lakers worse…as long as D12 goes to Jersey
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Because it's not fucking fair!
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yea but they allowed
the Miami deal and NY deal already why not this one? I even think the return is pretty fair for all the teams.
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Because. the. league. owns. the. Hornets.
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yep just rememberd that
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What its not fair to the Lakers?
They lost their strength in two all-star caliber bigs which are very very hard to find and acquired an injury prone PG
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Stern owns the Hornets!
He just gave away a small market team’s best player to his largest/2nd largest (depends on whether NY is first, idk) for old vets who clearly don’t make up a championship team!
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And you think as comprised now that the Lakers are better?
I think they are worse and before they recognize it, let the deal go through.
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its not a matter
of who wins the deal its the matter that Stern is dealing to the lakers leaving an unfair advantage to the Lakers because Stern favors the Lakers. It’s shown in every LA game when every player gets the calls and how LA magically had Pau land in their laps.
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prob because stern
was running NO side and wanted Paul to the Lakers and the owners feel the Lakers have a bias in the deal.
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however
Woj said the New Orleans GM is Bill Demps
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Funny that owners are pissed over the CP3 deal/trying to get it killed
maybe should have thought about that before agreeing to this ridiculous CBA
they should be all about it!
I mean, NO is gonna get a haul for a dude who was gonna leave anyways, and most likely will be finished in a few years due to knee problems
yeah, I don't see the outrage
Where was it when Melo pushed a deal to New York?
Houston is the name that is retarded in this.
What they needed to do was put a clause into the CBA
that says:
STERN YOU NEED TO SELL THE HORNETS TO SOMEONE OTHERWISE GTFO.
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It's funny how since Woj is on team Kobe
his “breaking news” report of CP3 to the Lakers does not skew with total hatred like when he broke out the Bron to Miami bit.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
Now sign Nene while this trade is nixed
So we don’t even have to consider thinking that Houston is a threat.
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I believe Houston will get David West
i just have a sneaky intuition about that one.
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
do they have any real power?
RT @WojYahooNBA: The NBA is now pushing New Orleans GM Dell Demps to pull the plug on the trade and keep Chris Paul
RT @WojYahooNBA: The NBA has killed the proposed deal to send Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources tell Yahoo! Sports
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You're thinking of this from the point of view of an anti-Laker
Think of this from the point of view of a Hornets fan.
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Difference is, we kinda knew Ujiri ripped off the Knicks with our haul.
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he's gone anyway
they got a decent package. he’s just gonna leave in FA if they don’t let the hornets complete a trade. this whole situation is fucked
That Gasol contract is obscene
20 million this year, next year and the year after?
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the NBA and its corrupt system may be getting exposed right now by the other owners. Conspiracy theories commence.
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Uh oh
NENE/GASOL Frontcourt! Bring it on!
by CloudBurst on Dec 8, 2011 7:09 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
I wonder how Gasol and Odom will feel after this?
I would be super pissed. But they should be professionals about it.
I know Gasol will really be affected by this and Lamar will worry more about his wife. Still think the nixed trade helps the Lakers again. :(
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they will find a way to get Paul
if not Howard for sure involving one of the two players if not both
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Nixing this deal may have made the Howard deal a reality
God damn it idiot owners. Now the Lakers FO can sit back and say oh man we dodged a bullet there.
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SSR acting like the crash of 1927.
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God damn it Stern
Now the Lakers can rethink their offer and probably give Gasol and Bynum to Orlando while giving Odom to NO. This may have made it worse people!
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I'm with you JR, this was a very good deal for NO
Not that great for the Lakers, unless Bynam can stay healthy and consistent. Even so…
This is great.
Now Chouest can actually put pressure on Stern and BUY THE HORNETS and we we can stop having to worry about the NBA owning the Hornets long term and eventually gutting them and contracting them.
DID YOU KNOW THE LEAGUE HAS OWNED THE HORNETS FOR OVER A YEAR ALREADY?
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Meh
As long as AAA and Nene is here, I’ll live.
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the reason the cp3 deal was nixed was because it wasnt in the interest of the league
That would lead me to believe that they would never allow chris paul to go to the lakers.
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 8, 2011 7:23 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Unless there was some collusion (that can be proven)
how can they nix the deal.
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Weirdest day ever.
I was immensely happy with Chandler going to New York.
I was extremely pissed with CP3 going to the Lakers.
Now, I’m happy as hell that the league gave the middle finger to the Lakers essentially.
Awesome.
stern & the owners DON'T want consolidation of superstars on only a few teams.
I’m glad they showed some balls there.
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 8, 2011 7:26 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
But thanks to the veto on any NO trade. LA will go for the BIG fish.
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Yup
I thought that trade gave the Nuggets clearance for takeoff, now its I don’t know what the f is going to happen.
What probably will happen is Bynum and Odom for D12 to pair with Gasol which makes them better and I will just keep shaking my head at those idiot owners
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Well on the bright side
We probably won out for Nene’s services, b/c all Houston had to offer was pairing up with Gasol. Even then I still think Nene would take our offer, but its always a little scary.
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All they had to do is amnesty Beet and they’re in the running. But no spaniard, though
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Thats what I mean
They have nothing appeasing for Nene when we can offer him more money and years
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I don't think it was such a bad trade for New Orleans especially with Chris Paul's injury
history.. it all goes back to the draft picks theey are getting…
WojYahooNBA:
New Orleans GM Dell Demps is “disconsolate” over this stunning, heavy-handed move from the commissioner’s office, source tells Y! Sports
He should be
He made a good move and Stern totally screwed him.
David Stern Sucks.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
I will let someone else articulate my thoughts for this:
RT @jfleminghoops Not that anyone is asking me, but that wasn’t that good of a deal for the Hornets. Made them a lower middle tier team, but more expensive.
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I agree totally
This was a bad trade for the hornets. What’s the point of being the 11th seed in the West with Odom, Kevin Martin and Scola? Nothing to build around there.
Even if there isn’t that much good out there otherwise, they should just rebuild now.
by Vee Sanford's Velvet Tracksuit on Dec 8, 2011 7:38 PM MST up reply actions
Umm because CP3 is going to leave you for nothing
Why not get something in return? We learned that here on the Nuggets well.
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You can easily trade Odom and Scola
For good draft picks and young talent. Plus they got good 2012 draft picks. It was a good trade in my mind.
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I disagree with this
entirely. But that’s really just a matter of opinion.
Of course, I’m not sure what else what out there. If NOTHING else was possible, then this is better than nothing certainly.
by Vee Sanford's Velvet Tracksuit on Dec 8, 2011 7:54 PM MST up reply actions
I'm going to be posting tweets all night:
RT @Suga_Shane To make it clear, the NBA, as a league, didn’t kill this trade. The NBA owners, who OWN the Hornets killed it. BIG Difference.
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Big finger to LA.
Paul goes to Orlando. HA!
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I just don't see how they can actually stop the trade.
I wonder if they would nix it if he were going to the Knicks?
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Nope
Because the can’t sign Tyson. HA!
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If they went for paul.
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They're going to nix any deal involving Paul
Until the Hornets get an actual owner. What will matter is where that new owner decides to trade CP3. If he trades him to LA, we’ll all be pissed our time was wasted. If he trades him anywhere else, LA just got screwed over. If he doesn’t trade him and CP3 walks, NO just got screwed over.
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How will LA get screwed over??
They got screwed over in this trade. Now they are back to being a good team that we have to worry about.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
You're blinded by the fact that you think LA lost this trade.
Most of LA doesn’t think they lost this trade, otherwise they wouldn’t be upset. Don’t think that your opinion reflects that of an entire fanbase.
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All Laker fans care for
STARS, STARS and MOAR STARS.
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But don't you see it?
They are so much worse off after the trade and lose a lot of pieces to obtain Dwight Howard. Most people who actually think outside of names knows this trade sucks
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For the Lakers
I mean I don’t know what NO could have done given that CP3 is leaving them anyway.
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I'm so confused now.
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Don't
It’s their Melo-Drama, not ours.
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But to me this is different than Melodrama
The league didn’t intervene.
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The league doesn't own the Nuggets either.
I’m just going to keep coming back to this.
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by Agaliarept on Dec 8, 2011 7:54 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry I'm not following....
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The NBA owners own the Hornets right now. So they can vote on everything the Hornets organization does. Mark Cuban, Stan Kroenke and 27 other guys own the Hornets right now.
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Yeah, this.
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Oh gotcha.
This seems very very bad …
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Almost exactly one year ago.
Ah, fuck it, let me just quote something.
New Orleans Hornets fans rejoiced in May over news that local businessman Gary Chouest had agreed to purchase the team from majority owner George Shinn. On Monday, NBA commissioner David Stern confirmed that the deal was off and that instead the NBA would assume full ownership of the team…
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Yeah I had forgotten...sorry
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Exactly.
So count your blessings, wish for AAA and Nene and watch the chaos with popcorn,
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Okay, so the Lakers get worse.
But I also see the Hornets getting hamstrung for the next 2-3 years. Middle of the road team, MAYBE makes the playoffs, no cap space, no high lottery picks, nothing. The team would literally HAVE to tank to have any hope of rebuilding.
All while the Lakers, while a little worse off now, attract free agents around the country for years around CP3/Kobe, and eventually just CP3, in the biggest market in the league.
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This. Except I don’t think they would make the playoffs.
by Vee Sanford's Velvet Tracksuit on Dec 8, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
The Hornets could trade those guys
Scola and Odom are valued by a lot of teams. They could get young talent and draft picks easily in return for those guys.
I also don’t know how anyone would sign with LA as they would still be over the salary cap after the trade.
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Dr. Buss
Will find a way.
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They are probably relieved the deal didn't go through
You could kiss the Lakers dynasty goodbye
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Although, it’s kinda fun watching this from OUTSIDE the box.
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Call me a sadist.
But I kinda want the Knicks to get in on it.
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watch them turn around and land Dwight for bynum
both Gasol and Dwight bring 10x what CP3 would. this is a disaster.
What a clusterfuck..... Dig This
So the league owns the Hornets. So the league holds a conference call among owners.
Then they all vote on the trade proposal (except teams involved).
Last I checked
All trades are always pending league review.
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This keeps getting better.
Cuban was the who had a sh*t fit.
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reallly? Do tell
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Which is ironic because he wants to buy the Dodgers....
this won’t endear him to the peoples of L.A.
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Out of all the owners
Cuban was the one who most outraged. (While flashing his ring-pop)
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Yes I understand but what's your source etc
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Woj.
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+ I was surfing around the SB universe
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Gotcha
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Also add to the fact Cuban had to kept his mouth shut throughout the playoffs.
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owners blocked it, because without cp3, the hornets lose market value
BUT, anyone who is thinking of buying this franchise should know Cp3 wants out anyway, so the value is reduced. It is moronic of the owners to think Cp3 there keeps the value up. They should just let the hornets operate normally, and hope the Gm rebuilds correctly. They don’t want to sell the franchise for less that they bailed the old owner out of, but they have no choice.Let the hornets rebuild into a new playoff team and hope the value returns.
From Woj on the uproar
A chorus of owners were irate with the belief that the five-month lockout had happened largely to stop big-market teams from leveraging small-market teams for star players pending free agency.
I was irate too.
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uh, this is actually worse than players forcing themselves onto other teams
everyone is saying it was the league office, not the owners that blocked it. this is like some real big brother type shit. first the referee scandals and now this.
Man, the NBA is sure not doing themselves any favors?
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too bad they already signed the new CBA already!
how hilarious would it be if the league suddenly locked out the players again.
If by hilarious, you mean end of the league...
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HA!
LakersBlog_SSR: You have to love the irony in the league finally actually doing something rigged, and it goes against the Lakers
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Blue Bayou
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I was thinking Linda Ronstadt but this works too
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you ain't....goin....nowhere
Take that, take that…..
by jd80229 on Dec 8, 2011 8:52 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
How wrong is this?
RT @ESPNAndyKatz RT @ESPNSteinLine: Our own @Chris_Broussard:Chris Paul fuming and exploring legal options w/NBPA director Billy Hunter to fight blocked deal
This is 10x worse than Melo. He’s literally SLAPPING Hornets fans in the face.
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Popcorn?
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by Kevin L on Dec 8, 2011 8:13 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
His hand is gonna be sore if he is LITERALLY slapping Hornets fans in the face.
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Okay, I'm mad right now.
I may be typing words, but that doesn’t mean I’m actually speaking English.
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LOL I was just messing with you man..
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Told ya, CP3 is leaving anyways, this deal was pretty good for the Hornets
Now the Lakers FO is having second thoughts
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I know,
but you were right, and that doesn’t make things any better. xD
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Although I do have the image
of Hornets fans lining up a la “Airplane” to slap Stern…
which should help.
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All that talk about NO being in his heart was bull
The only nice thing about that idiotic move by the owners is they tried to deliver a message that big market teams can’t bully small market teams.
Too bad the message wasn’t that good, it was almost like the Caron Butler for Kwame Brown trade. I actually feel the league saved the Lakers…god damn it!!!
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What did the five fingers say to the face?
SLAP!
by the real stranger on Dec 8, 2011 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
That is one big boy
Taking out a tiny girl. Gotta love unfair fights.
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reggie williams fielding offers, nuggets among suitors
restricted GS swingman lists denver as one of five teams interested in him…if we didn’t have to overpay, i’d like to see him on the team. http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2011/12/08/reggie-williams-fielding-offers/
I've always like him.
He’s restricted though, right?
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Well that's a steal imo.
25 y/o, can play 2 guard spots, and that’s cheap.
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
Very good price tag for Reggie
He is definitely worth at least $3 mil. Nuggets should just sign him if they can get him at that price. Get Nene and AAA first and it seems other FAs will join (I mean Josh Howard wanted to go where Nene went so I am sure other players have similar opinions). The Nene ministry has an allure that is hard to avoid.
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As long as he doesn’t pull one like the last Reggie.
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
Nice Reggie is still a 3
I don’t know why we are going after 3s. Does Ujiri have something up his sleeve?
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Sky blue dammit
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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Ya sure?
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
the nba is certainly not without drama
when does this crazy shit happen in the nfl? if tebow was still riding the bench nobody would have anything to tweet about other than actual games.
Could you imagine
if Roger Goodell owned the Broncos and decided that Tim Tebow, the savior, should play for the Dallas Cowbows instead?
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
I would off myself, right there and there. NO THANK YOU.
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
LOL
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
He should stay away from Arlington as far as possible….
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
But but America's Team with Tebow is like a match made in heaven.
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
We already have the hole on the roof, you can keep him.
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
Don't think you have to worry about it...
Since Jerry Jones thinks Tebow sucks.
by nugzin2040 on Dec 8, 2011 9:11 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I LOL'd alot. Well played!
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
You're rolling tonight! LOL
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
And Nets Daily?
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
Oh how I adore this movie
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Just wait till Training Camp with Kupchak present.
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
Oh man that is funny
Apparently Pau hated the thought of going to Houston and who can blame him. The same thoughts should be going through Nene’s head. I don’t think Nene is the type to enjoy really disgusting summers and strippers/night clubs everywhere.
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I actually lived in Houston in the summer
And stuff in my fridge got bad after a day because it is so humid and gross there. It is probably like Kupchak’s armpit when he has to deal with Odom and Gasol.
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OT: Holiday humor
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Me either. I found it via another site and laughed hysterically
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I think my favorite is the the guy they superimposed the lightsaber
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
That was funny too
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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If CP3 does end up in LA then we need to contact the Pacers about getting Dontay Jones back
I just tweeted the same thing but had to mention on here too. That year’s team was the best Thuggets team ever. Between DJ getting to CP3 in round round to Kmart hip checking Dirk in round two….classic
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 8, 2011 9:18 PM MST reply actions
AAA’s clean D makes me not miss him though
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
I'm loving this
first the Lakers almost make themselves worse, now don’t but in the process completely alienate Odom and Gasol and possibly Bynum, thus make themselves worse. If anyone thought the Lakers were just going through the motions last year they haven’t seen anything yet. 3/5’s of their starting lineup couldn’t care less about the “team” anymore. haha.
Are you talking about World Peace because he is in the starting lineup
While Odom is on the bench. Either way I think World Peace is distracted by himself a la Ochocinco these days.
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no, i was talking about odom
forgot he was there 6th man
Interesting interview with Lamar Odom about today's events.
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/
I know we joke about it but these guys are human beings.
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
x
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
I don't feel bad for the Lakers organization
I hope Pau and Lamar don’t report to training camp just to show the Lakers how they think the Lakers are disposable to them.
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I don't feel bad for the organization.
But it was interesting to hear his perspective. I don’t mind Odom
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
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If i'm Orlando
at this point i think i hold strong on an offer of Howard, Arenas and Turkoglu for Bynum, Odom and Gasol. Being that there is not threat of Paul being traded now.
Well I think LA is down to trade all 3
I think the Lakers would be better off than CP3 trade, but I wouldn’t be calling them the champs either. Of course if Kobe just play like Kobe and can have D12 rebound everything it could work out.
Ugh god damn it Stern, you may have made it much worse!!!
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I'm kind of see Orlando being like us last year
Give us everything we want, or we are dealing him to Jersey
Kobe can't all the games himself
And other teams can always play hack-a-howard.
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 8, 2011 11:26 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Salaries for Faried and Hamilton
How much are we going to be paying Faried and Hamilton? Is it set for picks based on their pick number?
last year
the 22nd and 26th picks had 1,045,600 and 894,400 salaries. and it is based on draft position.
sorry, was off just a little bit
1,254,720 and 1,073,280 respectively.
Looks like Dan Gilbert had a big hand in nixing the deal
He does make a good point.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-nba_dan_gilbert_email_lakers_hornets_trade_120811
I don’t like how the Lakers shed salary and didn’t include a draft pick. Now it makes it interesting with Pau and Odom returning.
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I really hope
all of this Chris Paul drama happened after Chandler “signed” with the Knicks, especically if Billups was Amnestied. Could be looking at next year with a broken Chandler and Amare with no amnesty to use on Amare and now i’m really, really, really liking that 2014 pick. Not to mention that they may have been able to pick up Paul in free agency, cause there is now way they are getting him in a trade if Stern wouldn’t let the Lakers do it.
Nothing is official
until noon Mountain Standard Time.
I think. 2 p.m. EST is what I heard.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Thanks, was wondering about that
and i guess its never too late to “fail” a team physical.
I suspect Chanlder will still sign with the Knicks
That organization is run by Dolan and it doesn’t matter who the GM is, his stink will take over and bring the Knicks down.
I am really loving that 2014 pick. Does anyone know it is lottery protected??
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Oh hell yea!!
I can already smell it, Gallo, Moz, Faried, and Hamilton will be a pseudo big four with Gallo, Faried, and Hamilton having all-star appearances (or maybe snubbed because they are in Denver) and Moz being voted MIP.
Then we end up getting a lottery pick in 2014 after the Knicks have a terrible 2013-2014 season when Amare is sitting the whole season from a second microfracture surgery and Tyson Chandler has foot surgery.
Melo becomes the new Antoine Walker and has gained 30 lbs (mostly fat) since the trade. There is no salary space to sign anyone and the Knicks are in luxury tax hell.
I can just see it now. We could be a dynasty after that pick if everything goes well.
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Late Breaking News ESPN
Updated: December 9, 2011, 1:02 AM ET
Sources: Dwight Howard eyeing Nets
By Chris Broussard
ESPN The Magazine
The New Jersey Nets have been told by Dwight Howard’s representatives that they are his preferred destination and that the Orlando Magic superstar is preparing to ask the Magic to trade him to the Nets, according to sources close to the situation.
That same report states...
“The Nets are continuing to pursue free agent center Nene in case their plan to acquire Howard falls through.”
Which doesn't make a ton of sense
as the D-Howard trade make take some time as they allow other teams to
make offers as well…. which they’d have to do, otherwise we’re back to the
player forcing his choice.
If Dwight does end up on the Nets
I really would have wanted that CP3 deal to go through. I expect there to be backlashes from this attempted trade. The sooner D12 goes to the Nets, the better for everyone.
I actually think a D12, Dwill pairing would be scary and they would have enough cap space to sign legit help.
That is a team to look out for in the East. I think they can beat Miami, Boston, and whatever other crap is in the East. The Knicks won’t even make the playoffs after Amare and Chandler blow out their knees and back respectively, and they have no depth lol.
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Well except Orlando
But they have Disneyland and Tiger Woods so they don’t care.
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dam it, I wish the paul trade went through.
Lakers won’t attempt it again now that they can’t get Howard. FTW
Spend a couple hours in the studio
Drinking beers, laying down tracks….
Come back to find the Paul to the Lakers deal nixed. Can’t say I’m too thrilled. Really thought the trade was bad for the Lakers. And anything bad for the Lakers is good for the Nuggets, right?
I don’t know. If the last 12 hours proves anything, it’s that the NBA is every bit as dysfunctional as naysayers like I have been saying for the last 10 years.
It sucks. Basketball is such a great sport — I love the speed and athleticism — but the National Basketball Association is such a piss-poor professional league. Stern should resign.
I like to laugh, but the NBA is the laughingstock of pro sports right now.
Granted, that mostly because NASCAR and pro golf are on haitus.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
So according to Dan Gilbert, the hornets can still send paul to the lakers
The lakers just have to take back more salary crap…Emeka Okafor, and give up some picks. Basically he’s hating on the lakers.
He did make a big deal about how they were getting a
great player AND saving like $20 ml in cap and luxury.
Glad the Lakers arent getting Dwight
Although I wish the Lakers were getting CP3 at this point. Such a weird day for the league.
they still might get paul if they give up more
the only bad thing is if they rework the deal to include a sign/trade of david west, so that the lakers take on more salary. It wouldn’t be a good thing if they got a solid pf, but then again that guy’s knees are also pretty bad. I guess we’ll see.
I think one sentence in Gilbert's letter makes it obvious why this happened
Most teams would miss out on that sweet $21m in luxury tax. It has nothing (directly) to do with competitive balance.
The frothing laker hater in me is not sure what to make of this. I feel like somehow we are still heading for Howard to LA. The league will not allow them to miss out on both D12 and CP3.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 9, 2011 12:07 AM MST reply actions
I think D12 is going to the Nets
It makes too much sense not to happen and the league can’t intervene since they don’t own either team.
I think Pau and LO will play for the Lakers, but I think they will go through the motions for sure. I wish the trade went through but all 3 of their big men are butt hurt and Metta world peace has lost his crazy edge. Mike Brown has a lot of work to do.
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well, the league can't intervene,
but it can “intervene”. (See Pau Gasol trade)
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 9, 2011 12:18 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah I understand that
But if Howard really does want to go to Jersey which makes more sense since DWill is in his prime, then he will make it happen.
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what does Jersey have to deal?
They’re not trading Dwill (I don’t think), and they gave up all their real assets to get him. LA can now outbid the hell out of them, and pretty sure Howard isn’t nixing that trade.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 9, 2011 12:30 AM MST up reply actions
Jersey offering Brook Lopez
Who may be a better prospect than Bynum as well as draft picks and taking back Turkoglu. I don’t think LA could take back Turkoglu, maybe they can from some trade exception.
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Danny Granger says
Due to the sabotaging of the LA/NO trade by david stern, and following in the footsteps of my athlete brethern Metta World Peace and Chad Ochocinco, I’m changing my last name to “Stern’s Bi#&h” #effectiveimmediately
Cut and paste from somewhere else, no attribution:
Chauncey Billups has left New York’s training camp without the Knicks’ permission and gone back to his hometown of Denver.
He was broken the news that he likely won’t be in New York this year, and with the amnesty rules written as they are he’ll have little say in where he lands. Needless to say, he’s pretty angry right now. His fantasy value is likely to fall, and possibly plummet, outside of New York.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Obviously from something like Rotowire
… and, Billups was in town earlier in the week. Welcome home, buddy.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
I feel for him. He's making rounds around the league
He’s had one interesting career. I wonder where he’ll end up next.
My guess:
Paid $14 million not to play, coaching somewhere around town, but far from the NBA and the hometown franchise that traded him. Twice.
He’s too good of a person to have to deal with this insanity.
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Ujiri better give him a basket of puppies.
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Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
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Unless an elite team is able to claim him...
Bet he retires. If so, I hope we can pick him up for a coaching or front office position.
retires?
with 14.2 million on the line? at the very least he has play one more year just so he can stick it to the Knicks. and at the very those morons in New York were dumb enough to pick up his option.
Going to be hard to do that...
If he gets picked up by a bad team. Sure, if he clears waivers and can play for the Heat, he’d love nothing more then to do it.
Can’t see him playing if Minnesota or Charlotte pick him up.
thats a lot of dough
and we don’t know if he’s been amnestied yet, the proposed 3 team deal could have him going to Sacramento. Taking a quick look at there cap, just under 30 million, i think its completely possible they would buyout his contract to get to the salary cap floor.
You guys should be rooting for DH12 to Nets...
then you can have Nene for yourselves.
Also, I would predict that the CP3 trade would be back on.
This was all about the fear that Broussard started, by predicting DH12 would follow CP3 to LA.
Nene for max or close to max? Yikes
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
I think the media is making such a big deal about the CP3
because now they don’t have the big story to develop in LA and they can’t build their dream team that they wanted of New York, LA, Chicago, and Miami. I could give a rats ass less about it because I know what its like to get your star traded away.
A baseball park is the one place where a man's wife doesn't mind his getting excited over somebody else's curves
yep, media loves the super-teams
I personally would like to see NBA play chicken with Paul and see if he really rides out his contract and signs with less money to a contender or gets max deal with a non-contender or NO. I for one and tired of guys forcing their way around.
Just read about NBA saying no to Paul to LA
Here is what happened. 20 some owners called Stern and said “no way.”
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