The Nuggets future hinges on Gallo
by Jeffrey Morton on Dec 21, 2011 7:00 AM MST
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Yes, the Denver Nuggets have just re-signed Nene Hilario. Yes, they re-signed Arron Afflalo. Yet, it's a signing that they must make next season that will determine the fate of this version of your favorite NBA basketball team.
Before we get started with today's article, let me show you something. Just let this video soak in while you prepare yourself for what I'm about to say. No, it's not pretty - and quite frankly it's not very good. In fact, this may be one of the worst representations of European music since ABBA. Yet, much like a car crash, you fear to watch but you cannot turn away.
I give you Party Start, Party Stop
THE BIG SHOTS - "PARTY START-PARTY STOP" (via thebigshotsadmin)
Yes, that man doing what can only be described as the bicycle is the Denver Nuggets' and Italy's own Danilo Gallinari. Gallo, you can call him. Watch him dance his way into your hearts my fellow Stiffs, because if the Nuggets have their way - the future of this franchise will rest on his considerably large shoulders.
While I can debate the merits of the above song; (of which there are few) I can't debate the merits of Gallo's importance on the Nuggets future. If you read between the lines of the Nuggets recent signings of Nene and AAA, (and trading for Rudy Fernandez and Corey Brewer) they have said "we like last year's team". This means the Nuggets will be heavily dependent on the development and upside of Gallo and Ty Lawson. Rather than tanking and trying to acquire a star through the draft (as others, as well as I, have suggested) the Nuggets firmly believe and hope that their future is already in-house.
To a certain extent they are right. In Gallo's second game with the Nuggets against the Portland Trail Blazers last February he showed his ability to take over a game (scoring 27 points by the end of the third quarter). It is also the game where he injured his toe, which hampered him for the entire remainder of the season. Before that game Gallo had lift, he had explosion, and he was quick. After that game he couldn't jump and his explosiveness was gone, so he resorted to drawing as many fouls as he could to compensate ...
(...I make da party start, I make da party stop... AHHHHHHRG...get out of my head!!)
... for his lack of lift. We didn't ever see the "true" Gallo after that point. It also must be pointed out that, while uncoordinated, Gallinari has a sneaky shooting touch and good court vision. He often is out ahead on fastbreaks and can even lead a break with his ball handling skills. He seems to have a good chemistry working with Lawson and that will be very important moving forward.
Meanwhile, let's not discount Gallo's time in Europe during the lockout. From all accounts he was ripping it up in Italy and improved with each week. Now, there are those among us who may scoff at the notion of "ripping up Europe," but Gallo gained important basketball time (so did Ty, Timofey Mozgov, Kosta Koufos and Rudy) while others were waiting things out. This will give these players a certain edge in this lockout-shortened season that others do not have.
Let's face it, the Nuggets have left themselves no other choice than to depend of the further development of these players, chief among them Gallo. A lack of "take over" players haunted the Nuggets in their playoff series against the Thunder. While the concept of team basketball is all well and good, you still need that guy who can put the team on his shoulders and carry them over the finish line ... like Atlas carrying the earth. It's this hope that the Nuggets are placing in Gallo.
While there are those who expect the same out of Ty Lawson - I remain skeptical. I need to see that will from Lawson. Too often Lawson is very passive and lays back and doesn't exploit his quickness. It's not for a lack of talent, as that's definitely there. While there are some who blame coach George Karl and his rather - curious - use of the two point guard lineup (which still perplexes me and drives me to distraction) I tend to think a person who is naturally aggressive would just take over anyway. No excuses. This is as big a year for Lawson to take a leap forward as it is for Gallo too, and I'm just as curious to see what Ty does.
Although, one note for Gallo. Man, learn some new dance moves. At least do the jerk or the stanky leg or something (and yes, I know what the stanky-leg is - doesn't mean I like it). You are a big, good looking Italian guy ... supplement the swarthy accent with some killer moves in the club and you will go far ...
... what am I saying? He doesn't need advice from me. Keep doing the bicycle Gallo! Just remember remember to drop in 25 points a night between pedals!
(...I make da party start, I make the party stop...)
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Haha wow that is some terrible dancing.
I think I saw the puppet at one point. And I agree, if Gallo can stay healthy he will be a force this year, but so many people looked so good last night, I don’t even know where to start! Color me incredibly excited about this squad. It has all the
makings of a contender and eases my star-hating heart at the same time. That said I’s like to finish with two thoughts:
1. FIRST! :)
2. MANIMAL THE RIDUNKULOUS! (Thanks Cat)
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss.
we europeans have a history of producing terrible, terrible music.
for every decent 60s and 70s rock band from england you have to deal with 50 dancefloor combos out of italy, france, the netherlands, germany or poland.
from now on, I will listen to that song before every nuggets game…
Might be my new favorite song. Now if you’ll excuse me, I must get back to slamming my head into my concrete driveway!
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
Here, this might help.
Hey everybody. ’Been lurking for a while but with season underway and given the Nugs performance last night I am too pumped not to post. It is way too early to make any predictions, but I think it is sake to say this squad will surprise a lot of teams. And by surprise I mean sneak up on them and rip their hearts out. So as this is my first post, I brought you all a gift. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs1CA5hFdd4
by JackTorrance on Dec 21, 2011 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
Welcome to the posting side of Denver Stiffs! Glad to have you aboard man. But, that video is JUST atrocious! haha.
Tim Legler picked the Nuggets to finish #3 … John Hollinger #2 … high expectations!
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
You and I have both said 4th
But I think I’m going to say 2nd or third now. Reason being this: OKC will be #1 barring an injury to Durant or Westcrook. (yes I misspelled that on purpose) we will be fighting Dallas LAL LAC for the next 4 spots. This schedule will brutalize some of these older teams. We will have a full 15 man roster and don’t be supervised to see GK give some guys a night off randomly. Those extra 3 guys can get spotty minutes but this team has the ability to change it up at will on a team. We will be the 2 or 3. GK knows the importance of staying on the opposite side of the bracket from OKC.
My preseason prediction is this:
WCF will be OKC vs Nuggets
ECF will be Miami vs Chicago.
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il gallo selvatico. Andare cazzi!!!!
by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 21, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
I can't wait to be unsupervised!
Hehe
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Afflalo is Boss.
by love4nuggets on Dec 21, 2011 11:59 AM MST up reply actions
I think we all need to be supervised when watching Karl's bizarre coaching decisions
I always have my probation officer with me when watching my Nuggets. He encourages me to work through my anger by throwing nerf bricks at the television.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
Agreed. Man, Gallo can run the court and had his explosiveness back.
I think Andre was the best player last night and he was a fantastic pickup, he is so unselfish. I was worried when I read the reports here last week during the scrimmage that he was disinterested and looked out of shape. Well last night I saw a determined, unselfish, leader.
Contract?
What are we thinking for his contract? Going off of what AAA got, are we thinking 5 year – $52 million?
The good thing about Gallo
Is that we just replace the MELLLL OOOOOO chant with GALLLLL OOOOOO.
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i really want julyan stone to make this team.
he played great last night.
This is a solid squad, no question, but
It is hard to rotate the position of go-to guy, unless you have multiple All-stars (the Knicks can give the key touch to Amare or Melo). Someone will have to step forward, and Gallo looks like he has the fire to do it .
Who else? Nene has not shown that he wants the ball in crunch time, and we’ll just have to see if Ty grows more aggressive. AAA could get the call when a 3 is required, the toughest situation of all, but in most other situations you want a guy who knows how to get to the foul line, like Gallo.
So good call, Jeff.
From what I saw, I don't think Miller or Rudy would back down either.
"All you fuckers who think we won't be good anymore, fuck you" - GK
Afflalo is Boss.
by love4nuggets on Dec 21, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
I was most impressed with Manimal last night.
The energy he brought and the fact that he was always around the basket will make it hard for George to keep him chained up. 5 offensive boards? Awesome.
I really liked Julyan Stone as well, he showed some good stuff; a sweet jumper (especially after being told he didn’t have one), and the ball leaves his hands quicker than anyone I’ve seen on the pass.
Those were based off of rookie expectations though.
I liked Rudy being aggressive on both ends of the floor and he showed some nifty passing. Gallo also impressed me and his no-look bounce pass to Mozzy was great. And ‘Dre? What more do I need to say than 12 assists? We have a GREAT passing team and as long as guys keep moving without the ball we’ll be hard to stop. Granted, it was against the BEST defensive team in the league….
I’m excited for the season to start, too bad I’ll miss the first month while I’m abroad with no internet. :(
George! Release the Manimal!
Brewer also played nice
having out rebounded Koufos and Faried despite having played the same amount of minutes.
word
If GK doesn’t get the Manimal in a rotation I will be on the fire gk bandwagon again.
Don't be ridiculous
Faried is still a rookie. Have some faith in Karl and allow him to bring Faried along slowly. The bottom line is if Faried is THAT good, he will play his way into Karl’s rotation. It isn’t Karl doesn’t play rookies. He played Ty, and even Forbes last year. If you are good enough, you will play. But we are deep up front, and that has to be taken into consideration when thinking of Faried’s minutes. Patience everyone.
All George does is win games
Sometimes it isn’t pretty but he is a good coach.
Having said that…I’m on teh Faried band wagon.
16-30
Karl’s playoff record in Denver.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 9:47 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
I understand but...
1036 wins in NBA. Career 0.600 winning percentage. I think sometimes we forget this.
by Pusherman on Dec 21, 2011 9:50 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
We always remember
and that’s why we complain. He continually builds teams with strategies that work in the regular season and collapse in the playoffs. I won’t be at all surprised to see the nuggets be the #1 overall seed this year, and lose in the first round. Got to build a real half court offense if you expect to win the playoffs.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 9:56 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
+1 on the need for a real half court offense
That can’t be emphasized too strongly.
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by ParkHillNative on Dec 21, 2011 1:04 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
+1,000,000
Get serious about giving your team the opportunity to win in ANY type of game. You will have to grind out some of your wins in the playoffs. These guys can run most any team out of the Can in spectacular fashion. It. Won’t. Be. Enough. Come. April. 28.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
Interestingly...Karl's career PO record is 72-89
So, he was right around .500 before coaching the Nuggets. Right now, his career PO record (percentage wise) is about the same as Steve Nash.
And his teams would have won titles in Seattle
with a competent playoff coach. Put Popovich or Phil Jackson there and they wouldn’t have been losing to the 8th seeded nuggets.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 10:01 AM MST up reply actions
How many titles did those players win without Jackson?
Oh Yeah, none before he coached them. The argument that anybody could have won with Jacksons players is tired, lazy, and false. Other people had those same players and lost.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
I disagree
Karl’s sonics did and would have in any other years ran into the Bulls, no way they were winning a championship
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
by Zachm219 on Dec 22, 2011 9:20 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
peopIe wouId be more impressed if his teams werent so stacked with taIent, and it was cIear that he was coaching those teams to wins instead of the team winning despite of him and his consistent beIIigerencies with the pIayers.
you have to consider the amount of taIent he has had to work with reIative to the Ieague, when you throw things out Iike how many games he’s won.
spoeIstra coached the heat to the finaIs, but does that mean he’s a decent coach, but hey at Ieast he has a system on defense, which is more you can say about karI.
How many times did Denver have homecourt in the playoffs?
It is not like the losing as the top seed, like when the Nugs knocked off Karl’s Supersonics
I lack faith
in GK’s ability to establish quality rotations.
I disagree, Faried is the key to whether we have a successful season....
….to much to soon?
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Here's what's really impressive about Gallo
He is the most versatile player we have, by far.
There are players who are stronger, quicker, faster, taller, shoot better, pass better, rebound better but, for the most part, that’s all they are/do.
Gallo is strong enough (getting stronger, steroids?:)),
quick enough for a 6’10 "small forward (as tall as Nene),
fast enough (see him getting ahead of court?),
again 6’10" small forward = nice,
the most efficient shooter I’ve ever stated up – > 1.5 pts per shot, very good foul shooter, outside shooter, better than all the superstars I’ve looked up,
a natural, willing, unselfish passer
Gallo is 6’10 and filling out. He can rebound well for a small forward who doesnt try to inflate rebound stats with meaningless catches. He also doesnt get more reb’s because he positions in rebounding notch for opponents free throws.
Gallo is also a fine go-to at end game though the idea that you have to have only one go-to at the end is frankly preposterous. It’s the brainchild of agents and dopey analysts who need to hype “The One”
A better formula is to a have a really good go-to with lots of others in the wings. I like Gallo as crunch time shooter but dont you feel good with AAA, or Ty, or even Nene, taking that last shot? I’m OK with that
BTW, look for Gallo to develop a mid=range game. If he does, we’re talking all-star.
by sgiustra on Dec 21, 2011 8:14 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I think the idea that you need a superstar to take that big shot is ridiculous. It is molded by the media and promoted by the NBA. How many times have you seen a Derek Fisher or Robert Horry, classic role players, hit HUGE shots at the end of games, even winning games? Quite often.
What you need is a collection of talented players that all have that ability and run a play and get the best shot. AAA hit a game winner last year. Gallo could hit that shot. Ty can break down a defense better than any. Andre Miller has a great post up game and a good mid range shot. Lots of options guys. Rudy has also hit HUGE shots in international play. Options galore!
Options are great
but the nuggets suffered at the end of last year and in the playoffs from not having a guy who could stop a scoring drought. They didn’t have anyone who could go down, create his own shot, and score. The reason a Derek Fisher or a Robert Horry were open for those shots was because a teammate drew the defense to them. We didn’t have that last year.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 9:32 AM MST up reply actions
I think Ty and Gallo can be those guys
Ty looks way more aggressive especially on the boards this year. That was Gallo’s first playoffs last season, expect him to be way better too.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Maybe, or maybe
we couldnt overcome our numerous injuries
I dont really recall being short a clutch shooter. Apart from injuries, IMO, Ray Felton’s effect on our playoff chances vs OKC, was extremely negative.
Too many shots, too many missed shots, not enough assists, and IMO, a player who’s insistence on his “starness” was more distracting than anything JR was presenting after the trade, a rare player who goes over the line of mere confidence, into overconfidence.
I dont care about his strengths, though he has some and I thank God he’s gone.
Those were both factors
not just one. There were injuries. The team was also lacking that player who could score at will. Here’s hoping they are healthy and that Ty and Gallo continue to develop.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
+1
It was clear we had no one to rely on during the playoffs to create for himself during crunch time. Injuries wasn’t a factor IMO. Maybe Gallo was hurt, but the confidence was definitely not there. This season should be different. Gallo and Ty know their our guys and that they need to fill those roles.
There is some truth to that...
But also keep in mind that Denver was an extremely young, inexperienced team in last years playoffs. The team had only been together for about 2 months.
Add on top of that the injuries, plus some terrible calls that might have cost us games. That playoff series could have ended differently. True, Denver didn’t get it done, but I think it had nothing to do with not have a “star”
This team has several guys that can create shots for themselves. I think we will see that come into play numerous times this year.
your point about inexperience
is right on Junkie
I think a reason we need "The One"....
…has more to do with star treatment by the refs, especially in the playoffs. I am one of those that has skepticism towards the refs and company….this league shows star treatment much more blatantly than the other pro sports leagues. If the refs truly called it equal (or at least close to equal), I agree our team wouldn’t need The One.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
refs
certainly true regarding Durant. Anytime he wants to he simply dribbles into a defender and throws up his arms. two free throws.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
Very true
Which is why I was scratching my head in the playoffs. KD just did not want to drive, even though every time he did, he would get the call.
KD needs to learn from the school of...
…Dwayne Wade circa 2006 championship.
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Bonaire, most of the reasons given for needing THE ONE
are just products of lazy, stereotyped thinking but you bring up a great point vis a vis the refs.
Refs arent “cheating” they just call basically habit calls for the stars.
Bt excepting that goaltend call in the 1st game, refs are going to basically call games, hmmm, how shall I say? adequately.
Look, if we take the OKC series, what was more responsible for our loss, injuries and foul shooting or refs calls. The way I see it victory was within our control
But Gallo does know how to draw calls.
I agree with you that responsibility for the loss...
..has more to do with injuries and foul shooting than star treatment……it’s just star treatment bugs me to no end in the NBA, so I brought it up….
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yeah me too! its like
an itch in my lower back that I cant get to
It is not that you need a superstar to take the big shot . .
You need someway to generate good offensive possession when everyone is playing the best players, playing their hardest, and when it is most important.
Getting good possessions at that point in the game/season become more difficult and historically, having a guy who can demand a double or triple team increases the likelihood of having a good possession. For years Utah did it with an effective system and excellent pick and roll as niether Stockton or Malone are classic create-shot superstars, but they have been the exception rather than the rule.
I was in the tank and rebuild group also
especially when I thought Nene was going to Rockets, however with Nene, Miller, Ty all with potential PER’s over 18 and Gallo looking poised to make a leap we really do have a chance, especially if Gallo has the “it” factor, that competitive streak that comes alive in the clutch.
If Gallo has half of “it” that Tebow does we are in good shape.
Anyone else find it pathetic how Wilson Chandler and JR Smith are whining their asses off on twitter
on how they can’t get out of the Chinese contracts?
Fucking pathetic
Atheist for Tim Tebow!
J.R. already knows how to get out
they nearly booted him a couple of weeks ago.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 9:29 AM MST up reply actions
JR is dealing with the Chinese gov't
Something tells me it isn’t that easy.
Yep, they keep re-tweeting people who beg them to RT and get out of China. They made the gamble, now do like K-mart did and orchestrate a buyout or stop complaining!
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 9:45 AM MST up reply actions
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Kenyon Martin has agreed to a contract buyout with Xinjiang of the China Basketball Association, sources tell Y! Sports.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 9:45 AM MST up reply actions
It will be interesting to see what Kmart does
If he’s interested in winning, he’ll sign a small contract to play for a contender. With his comments about Al getting “his” money, somehow I don’t see that happening.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 9:52 AM MST up reply actions
I think he’ll be looking at Miami and Boston if he wants to go the contender route. I could see the Lakers and Clippers coming into play as well.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 9:52 AM MST up reply actions
Oh and the Mavs...
Cuban fighting from the playoffs likely wouldn’t matter.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 9:53 AM MST up reply actions
The Mavs seem obvious
because its KMart’s hometown. But the last thing they need is another Forward. KMart is too undersized to play center, and they now have Odom, Marion, and Dirk that all can play PF. I think the Mavs are out as a desitination. My bet is that if he is not concerned about money, it will be either the Lakers, Clips, Knicks, or Miami.
Cuban did call him a thug,
but did not call him that to his face. Instead, he directed the comment at K-Mart’s mother. Mavs fans were yelling out a bunch of crap about “Thuggets” and Cuban looked at K-Mart’s mother and said “That includes your son.”
What a classy guy.
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by ParkHillNative on Dec 21, 2011 1:08 PM MST up reply actions
Please don't go to Miami KMart
You deserve better than that, plus you don’t want to be near Trina.
Go to the Celtics, they won’t make any noise even if you are there but they need bigs.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Spurs really need bigs
Right now they have Duncan, Splitter, and that’s about it.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
NEWS ON K-MART:
Benjamin Hochman from the Denver Post reporting that K-Mart, even though he received a buyout, still CANNOT sign with an NBA team until his Chinese Basketball Association team’s season is over. Likely March still.
How crazy is that????
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
sucks for kmart
but might actually help him be healthy for playoffs. Anybody know the CBA playoff schedule?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
He has been bought out, but part of the negotiation, according to Hochman, includes him not being able to sign with an NBA team until CBA season is over.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
Got cha!
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 1:26 PM MST up reply actions
Reports say it will Feb or March before he can play in NBA
Reading the between the lines, those reports also indicate he’s been doggin’ it over there. If that’s not true, then he’s all done being anything close to an impact player, even in limited minutes. Hope he lands somewhere of interest to him, but I don’t really care. We’re all set at the CRAZY slot with Faried, and Birdman looks healthy enough to patrol the lane in somewhat intimidating fashion.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
He sure will be rested
four months off to rest the old knees up. I bet he goes to Miami, that’s probably the best place for him to start, or LA if Bynum gets hurt again.
Here is my top 12
PG: Lawson, Miller
SG: Afflalo, Fernandez
SF: Gallinari, Brewer
PF: Nene, Harrington, Faried
C: Mozgov, Andersen, Koufos
Karl will rotate the guards liberally, mixing and matching all four of those guys, even some with the dreaded two PG lineup (which in stretches can be very effective)
I think Brewer, with his D, will become a regular rotation guy at SF
Unless Harrington starts to stink it up, Faried will struggle to find minutes at his most ideal position, the PF. True, sometimes Nene can swing to the C and that free’s up more minutes at PF, but with 3 options at Center, I don’t see it happening regularly. Faried will end up being an ocassional bench spark. (Can you image Faried, Bird, and Rudy all checking in at the same time? WOW, what a bolt of energy that would be!!)
Mozgov will struggle with foul trouble, so expect to see Birdman a lot and Koufos in spot minutes.
That rotation is in need of guards
who is the third PG if Lawson or Miller goes down?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
Thats what I was thinking.
But Denver doesn’t have another PG. So maybe see 1 more minor trade for a 3rd PG. Or wait till cuts come and pick up a guard that can swing between SG and PG? In which case who do you cut? Brewer or Koufos?
Julyan Stone
He looked good to me yesterday in preseason. Also Fernandez had an upbringing as a pg, and has a goo handle if necessary
Thanks
Having only 4 guards in rotation is dangerous. Though it would help limit some of Karl’s stupid rotations.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
Miller doesn't get injured
So it’s only Lawson we have to worry about.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
I am sooo glad
to have Miller back – I hated to see him go when we got AI…no telling how good our team would’ve been if we would’ve kept him.
Um...Julyan Stone!
Plus, Dre is the most durable guard in the league.
And…at SG, we still have Hamilton that can play spot minutes if needed due to injury plus Brewer can also play the two guard, though I cringe at that thought!
Rudy can run the point in a pinch
I’ve seen him do it with the Blazers. And we can call up Mr. Stone, who is a NATURAL.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 3:14 PM MST up reply actions
who is a NATURAL
Did he get shot in the stomach by his wife?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
I guess you didn't hear the news
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 4:10 PM MST up reply actions
Good old Robert Redford!
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 4:38 PM MST up reply actions
I see it exactly this way too
Hopefully Hamilton will find a way to beat out Brewer, but I doubt it and can only hope he’ll be placed in a situation where he’ll develop.
I’ll be surprised if Koufos doesn’t end up getting dumped for an upgrade at some point, but I guess for now he makes some sense.
I don’t see any urgency to add a third PG that will not play. Stone should be D-Leagued but in whatever way we need to keep his rights.
This is a pretty decent team. Reflecting everyone else’s views…hopefully Faried finds a way to get some burn.
I don't disagree
that he’s a reasonable place-filler. Every team needs a 12th man, and all the better if he’s 7 feet tall and can shoot. But as the year develops, with injuries and other factors in play, he and Brewer are clearly the least valuable assets and most likely to be moved to fix holes/upgrade.
If they are that undervalued in your opinion
then what exactly could we get back for them in trade?
I doubt either one of those guys is traded, unless they are included with another better player on the squad for a star. Doubtful that happens.
By "moved"
I didn’t mean traded, I meant released or otherwise dumped — certainly not traded for a valuable player. Neither of them have any trade value alone, for sure.
So are you guessing that Hamilton and Stone get put in D-League?
That’s my guess
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 21, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
Can't see how that doesn't happen
Who on NugzJunkie’s 12-man roster would go down before Ham and Stone? Brewer brings an awful lot to a roster in need of serious man defense. Plus he’s no slouch on the boards. The man can also put the ball into the peach basket sometimes. I say he’s no-brainer to make the roster, and the rest are locks.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
What do we do with Chanlder?
Do we want to re-sign him? He will be mad coming off the bench while Al likes being here. Just given that attitude I would rather have Harrington and develop Hamilton.
What do you guys think we can get for Chandler?
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Sign and trades don't typically yield a lot
When the Knicks did a sign and trade for David Lee, they basically got three scrubs in return. I would guess they might get a late first round pick from a playoff contender looking to fill a hole, at best. But anything is better than nothing.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
I'd be down for that.
I’ve expressed my distaste for Chandler before. Not a team player; less talented, but talented nonetheless, version of Melo. He won’t want to be on our team come next year, I can guarantee you that, because he won’t be starting. A late 1st rounder in this upcoming draft means something.
I tend to agree
that the best bet is to get something before we lose him for nothing. I think he won’t be happy being a backup to Gallo his entire career, so I see him wanting to start, which will not happen here in Denver. So best to move on and get whatever asset you can in return, preferably future draft picks since we are very deep at the moment.
JR, I like Chandler and I hope
we just get Chandler for Chandler
his versatility (can play from 2 – 4) and defensive ability make him an asset. Also, if one of our 2 – 4s is having problems, or gets hurt, Will could fill in. I mean, I love Gallo but what if gallo gets hurt or just brain locks for a stretch, wouldnt Will make a perfect sub?
I don't think Chandler wants to be in Denver
but I could be wrong.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 9:53 AM MST up reply actions
that might be a problem TIDBM
I’m assuming he comes back OK with location. If not, he HAS TO GO!
He's been a starter since his second season
nothing here but backup minutes and money.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
Maybe being stuck in China will change his perspective...
… and that he’ll just be grateful to be anywhere in the USA playing NBA basketball (except for Cleveland of course).
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here's why it's important to bring back chandler
6th man role. I believe that once Fernandez finishes this last year of his contract, he’s heading back to Spain. It will be important to have Ill will to swing the 2-3 off the bench with tough D, and a weird ability to randomly take over games.
Disagree strongly
Chandler’s standout trait looks to be his INDIFFERENCE. You can see the talent, but he’s no JR or Rudy to come off the bench for a spark. Too smooth. Doesn’t have the DESIRE.
IMHO.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 3:20 PM MST up reply actions
Still skilled imo.
Even if Chandler’s not giving 110%, his 80-90% is still at least a 6th man in this league. You could see during games that even though he wasn’t really passionate about playing for us, basketball players don’t just throw games.
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"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
We just disagree
Which is fine. No, I wouldn’t charge Chandler with throwing games. And yes, he could be a starter somewhere. Hope he finds his spot, but it doesn’t look to be with the Nuggets. Nor do I think we need him.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 4:12 PM MST up reply actions
Entirely depends
on how the season is going when he becomes available. Its a nice chip to have, but hardly a world-changer.
I still can't get that damn song out of my head
….sigh….I blame myself really.
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sweet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enSYlCEz5VI
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by Jeffrey Morton on Dec 21, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
Jeff, try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYm74vtR-YY&feature=related
John Zorn’s Naked City doing the James Bond theme. Not exactlyyour cup of tea, but fun nonetheless.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 3:35 PM MST up reply actions
That's awesome you're familiar with this Naked City
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 5:01 PM MST up reply actions
Longtime Zorn fan
There was a time I would have said Naked City is Zorn’s straightest work. But then along came Masada. And then Electric Masada. My taste runs more to his way earlier free improvisation projects, game pieces and so on.
Artimus, you into outside music at all?
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 9:57 PM MST up reply actions
Not too familiar with Outside Music the label
Reading about them now and I am familiar with some of the labels they distribute, like Anticon, Ninja Tune, Kill Rock Stars, Saddle Creek, and so on. Any artists in particular I should give a listen? Sounds like we have similar tastes for Zorn’s work, as I prefer the game pieces more (though I like it all).
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 22, 2011 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
Out music
I didn’t mean that distro, nor much of the music they carry, but rather the murky, catch-all term for music that’s way outside the mainstream. Outside (or out) music; creative music; experimental. No word captures it, but there was a time when avant garde worked.
European free improvisation (and some jazz-“classical” hybrid composition) is my passion these days. Here’s just a smattering of the artists I follow: John Butcher, Thomas Lehn, Frank Gratkowski, Georg Graewe, Evan Parker, Wolfgang Fuchs, John Edwards, Phil Minton, Paul Lovens.
But I’ve long loved out jazz from the good ole USA, too. Anthony Braxton, Art Ensemble of Chicago, Ornette (the very old stuff) and so on. My interest in exploratory stuff got started in high school with Yes, King Crimson, Soft Machine, Gentle Giant, Hendrix, Mahavishnu Orchestra and the like. That shit was contemporary while I was in high school—yeah, I’m an old fart.
Until 2004, I presented and otherwise promoted weird music in Seattle, as an editor of a newsletter, as a producer of the long-running Seattle Improvised Music Festival, and then with my own tiny venue called Polestar Music Gallery.
Anyway, nice to find something of a fellow traveler here on DS. What else are you listening to these days?
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 22, 2011 3:37 PM MST up reply actions
Try
Frank zappa
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 22, 2011 6:03 PM MST up reply actions
Zappa was certainly a high school fave, TID
And later on, too. Not interested anymore, but that doesn’t mean his wasn’t scintillating music. And what a killer guitarist, often on some people’s list of the very best ever.
A lot of what I listen to—and Zorn’s game pieces fall into this broad category—has no time signature or tonal center in the traditional sense. Not for everyone, to say the least. And lest I sound “elitist,” an old charge against anything avant garde, I’m still a sucker for some rock music and singer-songwriters.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 22, 2011 6:16 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks for the thoughtful reply, KFH
A lot of great artists you list that I also like. Definitely a big fan of early Ornette Coleman, and always had a soft spot in my heart for Rahsaan Roland Kirk. I started as a youngster with more noise and slacker bands (Polvo, US Maple), developing an appreciation for the ones that paved the way before them in free jazz and other genres as I’ve aged (nearly thirty now). These days, there are too many bands to list, but I do currently play in a doom metal band as a primary guitarist and writer, drawing a lot of influence from a band that started on Capitol Hill in Seattle that was called Burning Witch (Stephen O’Malley, if you know him from Sunn(o))) or his other projects…). Anyway, the next time in Seattle, I’d love to talk music over a heavily Cascade-hopped brew… I hope I don’t sound like a snob – Warren Zevon and Hall & Oates are guilty pleasures…
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 22, 2011 7:17 PM MST up reply actions
Well alright!
Again, great to know somebody here on DS is into music that’s a little out there. I love noise, too, with the Japanese guys leading the way for me. Merzbow, Boredoms, Ruins (not exactly noise), MSBR, Masonna and the like. That also reminds me of how much I love Otomo Yoshihide. We had him at Polestar a couple of times in an extremely noisy incarnation. Both times he did one set on guitar and another on turntable. Ever heard the Ground Zero (an Otomo unit) recording, Revolutionary Peking Opera? What a masterpiece.
I’m an IPA nut, and we sure have ‘em by the truckload out here. Let me know when you’ll be around. In 2005 I moved to a rural area a couple of hours northeast of Seattle, but work and friends bring me down there all the time. My daughter lives there, too. Meanwhile, see you back here as we rant and rave all things Nuggets.
Oh yeah, can you hook me up with a recording of your band? I’m not a fan of mp3s and listening over the net. Guess I’m proud to be a snob in that regard. Take care.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 22, 2011 11:20 PM MST up reply actions
I love Zappa's guitar work
Almost a bigger fan of his notions on freedom of speech. RIP
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 22, 2011 7:21 PM MST up reply actions
si power rankings
posted this late last night, don’t think anyone saw it. si.com has us at #5.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 21, 2011 10:37 AM MST reply actions
Maybe the Rainbow unis come back?
• Add the Nuggets to the list of teams that will have throwbacks this season. Uni Watch has seen the design and can confirm that it’s a beauty. But for now, NOPE.
Atheist for Tim Tebow!
We will be wearing throwbacks because Melo is gone
Thank you. I love some of the throwbacks we’ve had. Since Melo became a captain like 4 years ago we haven’t worn them because it was the captains decision.
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 21, 2011 10:51 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Makes sense huh?
Notice that the year Camby was no longer a captain and Melo was. Happeened to be the year we stopped wearing throw backs. Melo hated them
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 21, 2011 11:04 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I’m not sure that is entirely correct. I’ve heard some that it’s up to the NBA on throwbacks as well … not sure if that is just a scapegoat or what.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
Huge coincidence??????
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Denver Nuggets dove c'e squadra nel basket
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by The U.N. Fab Five on Dec 21, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
hey
stop snitchin on Melo
Let's start a riot!
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by Army of Nugs on Dec 21, 2011 9:11 PM MST up reply actions
oh thank god! the nuggets throwbacks are the best
I even miss the 90s jerseys with the navy blue and gold lettering. I just pray they sell them with sewn on lettering and numbers. I was on nbastore.com the other day and they’re selling KG’s throwback Timberwolves jersey with screened on – lame.
I love our young team
All I know is that last night was great to watch, especially the second half when the younger member of the squad were battling it out. Every one of them looked hungry and got the crowd into it. From Faried’s dunks to Carroll gracefully throwing up a few. It was great and no matter what happens in the playoffs I’m going to enjoy watching this young team this season and for the foreseeable future.
who was the third pg?
how did hamilton look?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
Julyan Stone!
Get used to hearing his name also. I think he looks great and my prediction is he makes the squad. Based on GK’s comments, he is high on the kid!
I think we roll with 14 players this year, with Carroll and Higgins getting cut. If they want 15, they keep Carroll.
Stone is awesome
they need to lock him down to like a 3 year deal while he’s inexpensive.
Speaking of Manimal:
Kenneth Faried @KennethFaried35
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR DA LOVE TONIGHT.. it is great to be loved and da sating ovation WOW yall know how to make someone feel at HOME!!
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 21, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
What system is that?
Most of the posters on this site could step in and play for the nuggets tomorrow and not cause any “system” problems. We’d suck at everything else.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
TIDBMTID, love your answer
not sure I agree but I love your answer anyway. I think of it like a Babe Ruth swing and miss, still worth the price of admission
Yeah, I'm not Karl's biggest supporter anymore
(no need to change my moniker, though), but I don’t quite get all the overt bashing. He said straight up that Faried wasn’t picking things up as well as Karl would like. Obviously, the team doesn’t actually play “random” ball; something is going on in practice besides full court breaks and stuffs. It’s good to bring a player like Faried along at an appropriate pace.
That said, Manimal’s raw strengths right out of college are beyond obvious. Karl will use him.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
See Below
Regarding the offensive system they are going to run. This was tongue-in-cheek, first chance at some good old fashioned bashing since the playoffs. Karl does seem to be implementing a real offense, so hopefully he follows through.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 4:25 PM MST up reply actions
Believe me, I'm skeptical too
As with many of us Stiffs, I’ve adopted a hopeful but not optimistic wait and see attitude. And thanks for your clarification.
It baffles me how Karl can stay so damn passive much of the time over there on the bench. Or that’s how it appears, anyway. At the same time, I admire him (after a fashion) when he says that’s what practice is for, and that the game is, well, for letting ’em things.
But anybody with eyes and two brain cells can see a middle ground is where it’s at. I mean, has Karl never heard of the concept of in-game adjustments? Teaching in real time? You played this sequence great, but you ain’t doing that sequence even close to how we designed it. Hey, get your ass off the floor if you’re gonna ignore how we want to play. Bench guy, get in there and show him how it’s done. X’s and O’s, along with the kisses and hugs.
Pretty please? The man has been coaching for a long time. Should that make us hopeful or fatalistic? Who the hell knows.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 6:03 PM MST up reply actions
*letting 'em test things
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 9:58 PM MST up reply actions
Karl said
Faried played nearly perfect last night. So not sure why you are so skeptical.
Just because Karl is honest that minutes will be tight, doesn’t mean that Faried won’t get burn. He will play, but also with our depth, we cannot expect Faried to play significantly…especially early on. But in one of these 4 games in 5 nights, I think we will see more of Faried.
Jones, you're the real McCoy!
You took the words right out of my heart
1023 the ticket will be interviewing Hochman and devoting a segment...
…. or two to the Nuggets at 11:30. A respite from Tebow.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
Hochman said Lawson key to season and he looked great last night
Thought Miller looked awesome too.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
Reality Check #3,0655 out of a billion
That preseason game was thrilling and encouraging but let’s all take a breath and come to expect and accept a bad game, a problem phase, an indescribably goofy drive by Gallo.
I plan on watching every game, at edge of my recliner but let’s just ease the reins back a bit so we dont froth when we hit a bad game or patch.
I mean, if we lose the next preseason game to Suns, are we going to drop our heads, “same ol’ Nuggets” – hope not
No thanks, debbie downer
there is no chance this team ever loses another game. Perfect 82-0 Championship run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 11:36 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
82 - 0?
I’m in!
P.S. What do you expect from a town that worships Tebow :)
Well
He is 7-2 this season.
Back off it, breh.
DenverStiffs > MileHighReport
by KevinAwesome on Dec 21, 2011 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
I can't stand him as a person
but I am rooting for the player to succeed. I always wanted to see an NFL team run a version of the college option, and it’s working. Now, if only someone would commit to never punting on fourth and 4 or less.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
TIDBMTIT, I understand because you could perceive
Timmy is, IDK, maybe a little, IDK, ahhhhh…please help me here
But, my gut tells me that Tebow is real and genuine. A person like Cam Newton, who has ungodly ability, isIMO as phony as 3 card Monty. IMO.
The rehearsed celebrations, sort of like Andre Aggassi, the press conferences in which I dont believe one “humble brag,” “team first sentiment.”
Seems like he went to charm school for future star quarterbacks. IMO.
I believe he is genuine
And nice to kids. Unfortunately, the dreck he is peddling is anathama to me and damages people every day.
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 7:17 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Dreck? Peddling?
Is Tebow dealing drugs, or something I havent heard of?
Tebow is peddling religion
It’s all dangerous, but his version is particularly so. Won’t go into detail here, since we’re trying to stick to sport. But of course it’s Tebow (and plenty of other pros) who spark the discussions.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 22, 2011 3:40 PM MST up reply actions
This is my last word on this
it’s relevant to sports
I’m an atheist and I think Tebow is great though, I fear that if ever Fundamentalists had the opportunity, they would impose their beliefs on us. That would be their dream whether they are Christian or Muslim
But I’d take a hundred Tebows to any one person who has served to dumb down, vulgarize our culture. Think Kris Humphreys Kardashian
Lets just stay multicultural, secular, tolerant.
Yeah, America Taliban and such
I’ll let TID explain further whatever he’d like; I was just chiming in on what I thought he was saying.
Must say I find your comment confusing, though. And I for one will not be tolerant of religious persecution—and I do not mean that in its traditional usage. In my opinion (and that of many others), it’s time to name just how dangerous religion is; that it is mass delusion; that those who preach peace often practice anything but; that there is danger of theocratic regimes coming to power in many regions of the world, including our own; that community and individual freedoms are continually threatened by religion and its practitioners.
I agree that religion (and politics) are relevant to sports and most every other subject that relates to mass society, but I don’t think most Stiffs or our moderators want these overt discussions here. So this is the last word from me on this.
Take care, you old Knicks traitor. Glad you’re a Nuggets fan, and here’s hoping the Knicks have a great season, too. Interesting line-up back east!
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 22, 2011 6:27 PM MST up reply actions
KFH, you find my take confusing
because they are confusing
But listen, secular as I am, I still love what Timmy stands for, well some of what Timmy stands for anyway.
AS long as he lets me do my thing, I am perfectly fine with his prying every other breath
how can you not like him as a person?
Tims a pretty all around awesome guy
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
by Zachm219 on Dec 22, 2011 4:19 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
This is Tulo's town baby.
Don’t you try to tell me otherwise.
LALALALALALA I can’t hear you!
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Who?
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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
I'm still waiting
For your apology for ever doubting him
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
by Zachm219 on Dec 22, 2011 4:18 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I never doubted Tulo.
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Simeone Last Night Posted that Nene had a leg injury..
Any details??
by ACEIII on Dec 21, 2011 11:54 AM MST via mobile reply actions
I think he was watching from the stands
According to Koz and the official news, he was just kept out so he wouldn’t get hurt
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Haha. Or sitting on it!
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by love4nuggets on Dec 21, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
Everybody forgets that Nene does have issues with his leg muscles
Though not serious, they can be a hindrance.
What gave it away? The fact that Ty no longer has his head?
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by SDcat09 on Dec 21, 2011 12:29 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
NBA ACTION!
Great shot, thanks.
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by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 3:39 PM MST up reply actions
Looking forward to the first Spurs game of the season
Mozgov, Nene, and Gallo vs. Old Duncan, Dajuan Blair’s Knees, and Richard Jefferson.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 12:08 PM MST reply actions
RJ was amnestied
he is no longer a member of the Spurs.
But I get what your saying! We should run circles around them and I will laugh at Duncan complaining non stop to the refs!
x
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
Ha
I was hoping to turn up a pic of the classic disappointed, sad-faced Duncan where he’s tilting his head slightly and staring at the ref. No such luck.
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
this is the best one I could find
by InboundingLobPass on Dec 21, 2011 8:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Someone should start a tumblr
Post a new pic every day and call it “Tim Duncan Complaining about Things”, in the spirit of “Kim Jong Il Looking at Things”
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 22, 2011 9:39 AM MST up reply actions
I just love the team as it is right...
can’t wait for the season to start
Colorado Offense: Making bad pitchers look like CY Young Winners.
right now*
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by Colsportsfan on Dec 21, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
You know what fellow Stiffs?
I’m just gonna go crazy here and say that we are going to win the division. YUP. I said it !
What the hell?
Mmmmm sky blue Kool Aid…..mmmmmm
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What? I'm actually serious.
Why not? We stand as good a chance as anyone with The Manimal!
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You are the same person who doubted we would re-sign Nene and AAA
Sudden change of heart?
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
I never had an opinion as to whether we would re-sign either plaer.
I did not however, immediately believe it when ESPN reported both signings. I trust Hochman above all others
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BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I thought seriously about
pranking you with a fake Nene signing. 5 years, $85 million type of dummied up report. I figured everyone might get pissed, so I didn’t. But your reaction would have been golden.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
You mean a fake Hochman report or something?
Because I follow Hochman on Twitter so you can’t fool me mister man.
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Not hochman
but I could have typed up a good BQ and given you a broken link to a fake ESPN reporter, it would have been epic.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
But if it ever says ESPN I ignore it.
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Please send me some hits of your Sky Blue KoolAid
Thanks!
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 3:41 PM MST up reply actions
cheers
My secret stash.
Atheist for Tebow!
"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"
"Your Agonizer please, Al Harrington"
Whoa, a whole sheet!!!
It’s actually funny how the image you posted makes us wonder if we’re already under the influence a little bit.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 5:53 PM MST up reply actions
What the hell?...
#nuggets injury update: Ty left ankle sprain, Nene right hamstring tightness, both day to day
From Hochman
Atheist for Tim Tebow!
I was just about to say..
Figures…:(
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
More time for Stone and manimal
Ty will be back for the season opener unless it is a high ankle /high grade sprain, which I hope it’s not.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
All I will say is if we had this same team and Poppovich instead of Karl
We would have a very very very high chance of winning it all. I trust whatever Pop does.
However, with Karl, I still think this team can win in spite of him. It is just not as likely. Maybe Karl gets an epiphany and realizes he has a good player in Faried and good off guards so he doesn’t have to play 2 PGs all the time.
Karl is the one who needs to develop the most, if that happens we will win in the playoffs.
I appreciate a good regular season coach but like Jeremy at RMC I am tired of first round exits. Please Karl place a half court offense, we have great players for the pick and roll and we can go inside outside. Please don’t fast break all the time!!!
Feinstein…we need your friend to step up
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Also
call timeouts once in a while. It’s okay, that’s what they are there for.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
My only problem with George is he is stubborn and wears his ego on his sleeve
when he became the “star” in both Seattle and Milwaukee it caused serious problems. Melo get’s alot of crap on here…but George deserves as much credit for those first round exits as Melo.
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by Jeffrey Morton on Dec 21, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
And now he's the active leader
for regular season wins as head coach.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 1:00 PM MST up reply actions
after last season especially
my guard will always be up with this team heading into the playoffs as long as GK is coaching. He is unquestionably the achilles heel.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 21, 2011 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
U MAD?
"J.R. SMITH! WITH NO REGARD FOR COMMON SENSE!" - Future Kevin Harlan Quote
"They're two-deep at the crazy position!" - Kenny "The Jet" Smith.
by Agaliarept on Dec 21, 2011 3:42 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
This is Karl's problem!
Too many takes for this photo shoot. The ball kept hitting him full on the head at blazing speed! Poor fella.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 3:43 PM MST up reply actions
Might just be smoke
But it does seem like the Nuggets are trying to develop a 1/2 court system
Some good news there
Said they run want to run the dribble drive motion offense about 50% of the time, and a lot of pick and roll. I love pick and roll offense, easiest offense to run, very hard to defend. Also, Karl allowed an assistant to speak with the press, which is rare.
Then there was this:
Karl also uses a two-point guard offense — this season it will be Lawson and Andre Miller
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions
Alrighty Stiffs. I'm out. Heading to Denver weather permitting
Catch you all later!
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Safe trip
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by Jeffrey Morton on Dec 21, 2011 1:15 PM MST up reply actions
expecting a bunch of snow in the mountains
supposed to be 12 to 20 inches tonight and tomorrow at my house.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
The resorts needs all the snow they can get
It’s been a pathetic season so far…
Atheist for Tim Tebow!
I agree wholeheartedly
been rooting for it. I had a guy visiting from Vail. He said we have a lot of snow compared to Vail, and we have almost none. I haven’t even had to plow yet this year. Normally that happens sometime between 11/01 and 12/01. Never this late.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
So Tonight is Round Two of the New L.A versus L.A rivalry
Anybody notice that round one was the most watched NBATV game ever?
I thought it was highest rating for a preseason game
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 3:44 PM MST up reply actions
Can anyone give a rough breakdown of last night's game for a Stiff's perspective?
Sounds like everyone who watched turned off the TV excited, but what were the highlights?
Here in US, you watch NBA; in Soviet Russia, NBA watch you! - LACKov Smirnoff
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 1:34 PM MST reply actions
Team looked awesome
Rudy is legit, Dre is looking solid. Manimal better get some run….his 5 dunks in a row were definitely the highlight of the night….oh, and Corey Brewer shouldn’t ever shoot….ever.
Five dunks in a row, as in five possessions straight? WOW
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 1:37 PM MST up reply actions
Kobe has a torn wrist ligament
Here in US, you watch NBA; in Soviet Russia, NBA watch you! - LACKov Smirnoff
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 1:37 PM MST reply actions
he's day-to-day regarding signing divorce papers...
Atheist for Tim Tebow!
by CombatChuk on Dec 21, 2011 1:40 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
This might prevent him from signing said papers
Strong veteran move
Here in US, you watch NBA; in Soviet Russia, NBA watch you! - LACKov Smirnoff
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
Whoa!
Watch them tank and get the 1st pick in the lottery next year.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
The report says he's day to day
must not be an important ligament.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
He went down hard
Clearly hurt, but yeah, it must not be too bad.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 3:45 PM MST up reply actions
I bought Basketball Prospectus today
it’s very high on Gallo: 42 players have had 3 seasons as good as Gallo’s by his age, and 33 of them went on to become all-stars. So there’s definitely a lot of potential/upside there.
i keep dancing on my own.
by atomiccafe on Dec 21, 2011 1:51 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
They are also high on Faried and Lawson
Thesr guys write the bible for NBA GMs.
I am very excited to see this team bloom, only one Achilles heel but maybe he has changed since JR is no longer around to be the scapegoat. I hope he doesnt make Faried the scapegoat, I have heard Faried works hard. Make yourself the scapegoat Karl or learn to praise your players a la Pop.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Dec 21, 2011 2:27 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I need to be the final man on the roster
I’ve led a life up to this point full of disappointment, and I promise GK will come to the same assessment. He’ll scowl at me, refuse to talk to me, leave me at the end of the bench. I’ll do it without distraction to the team, just so GK can have a scapegoat. I’m willing to do that at the vet minimum for our Nuggets. It’ll be tough, but I’ll do it for the fans.
Here in US, you watch NBA; in Soviet Russia, NBA watch you! - LACKov Smirnoff
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 2:31 PM MST up reply actions
You may be kidding
But we need someone like that for GK to take out his ego. Plus getting paid $500,000 at least is not bad to get court side seats.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Dec 21, 2011 2:33 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I just started coming to this site a few weeks ago
And I must say I feel my many of my thoughts are confirmed by many of you. First, wathcing the Spurs in the playoffs, it is so clear that Pop is the greatest mind in the NBA. You just trust what he does. GK, on the other hand, is totally BS-ing out there, making overdramatic personnel and coaching decisions.
Feel free to disagree, but didn’t Karl create the “monster” that was JR Smith? His role was to come in once we were down and score points. He did just that. Then he gets scolded for playing that exact role. It’s just one example, but I think that best exemplifies how blind he is as a team manager.
And don’t get me started with the 2 PG’s. He falls in love with these random players: Anthony Carter, Earl F-ing Boykins, Linas Kleiza…You have a super talent pigeon-holed on the bench. JR was never given the opportunity to mature. It’s likely too late for him now, but GK has got some weird approach with this team.
Tacos! Tacos! Tacos!
Let's start a riot!
On twitter- @RobPalmerPeru
by Army of Nugs on Dec 21, 2011 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
It'd be an honor to take up the mantle of Tacos
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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 22, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
I hadn't thought about the scapegoat
Here’s my plan on that. He can spend the entire season insulting our former players, like he did after the Melo trade. He’s already on record talking about how Rudy is like J.R. only less crazy. I’m pretty sure he can keep up the former player bashing for the entire season. That will be his blame outlet this year. Next year, lookout Al Harrington.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
The next question has to be:
If/when we flame out in the first round, who/what will GK blame the exit on that isn’t coaching-related?
Here in US, you watch NBA; in Soviet Russia, NBA watch you! - LACKov Smirnoff
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
Perhaps
we should lock him in his basement for the entire playoffs. The team would rally around their “missing” coach and shock the world!
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
Clearly a joke
Please, no one actually lock Karl in his basement.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
You were so close to getting banned
Here in US, you watch NBA; in Soviet Russia, NBA watch you! - LACKov Smirnoff
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
the question is
which player he will randomly start a feud with once the playoffs start. With JR, Kmart and Melo all gone it is a wide open field, but my money is on Rudy. Faried and Gallo are also possibilities.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 21, 2011 3:41 PM MST up reply actions
Rudy seems like a safe bet.
We’ll revisit in a few months…
Here in US, you watch NBA; in Soviet Russia, NBA watch you! - LACKov Smirnoff
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 5:04 PM MST up reply actions
Savage Garden
you can blame Australia for that one (sorry), thats an insult to our European friends.
by Rage McTurpentine on Dec 21, 2011 2:04 PM MST reply actions
I will make the correction.... :)
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by Jeffrey Morton on Dec 21, 2011 4:17 PM MST up reply actions
Saw 12 assists for Dre in last night's boxscore
Did Ty look passive out there? Did Karl ever play them side-by-side?
Here in US, you watch NBA; in Soviet Russia, NBA watch you! - LACKov Smirnoff
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 2:42 PM MST reply actions
I didn't watch
but ty had 21 points, and something like 7 rebounds. Sounds aggressive to me.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 2:47 PM MST up reply actions
Ty was aggressive for sure
Miller was solid too….the 2 pg lineup was still a bit of a liability on D it seemed. Hope Karl noticed, but it’s extremely rare that an opposing team can’t exploit mismatches on the wing when you have 2 PGs out there
he hasn't noticed the last 5 years or so
he won’t now.
by Rainbow skyline on Dec 21, 2011 3:53 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks
Here in US, you watch NBA; in Soviet Russia, NBA watch you! - LACKov Smirnoff
by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 21, 2011 5:06 PM MST up reply actions
SI ranks the contenders
puts Denver in the "Don’t Sleep on them " Group
Denver Nuggets
John Hollinger of ESPN.com nailed this in his Western Conference preview Tuesday, so I won’t belabor it here: The Nuggets are a very good team, and they have the kind of borderline 12-man depth to be a major pain in the regular season. Denver was the league’s most efficient scoring team before the Carmelo Anthony deal, and it nearly led the league in both points scored and allowed per possession after the trade. In other words: The Nuggets lost Melo and basically became the best team in the league.
The key pieces are all still here, and at least three of them — Arron Afflalo, Ty Lawson and Danilo Gallinari — are poised for mini-breakouts. Depth on the front line will be an issue, and Denver might run into the same crunch-time issues that derailed them in the playoffs against the Thunder. Nene isn’t a reliable go-to scorer against top defenses, and no one has yet emerged as a late-game pick-and-roll creator under the highest pressure. But don’t be surprised if this team pushes for home court in the first round.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 4:06 PM MST reply actions
Where is the depth problems on the frontline?
From what I saw Mozgov is better than Gortat and Lopez. Birdman, Faried, Koufus, Harrington and maybe Chandler are solid backups.
Maybe it is just Moz hate, I guess he has to show up for the media to talk about him.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
I predict Mozzie Will Get Better and Better as the Season Progresses
He has certain skills— passing, movement, jump shot — that you just don’t see I’m players his size. Really liked his swat of Gortat into the stands.
by ACEIII on Dec 21, 2011 5:41 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
If were me, I make Mozgod
watch tape of Bill Walton, Sabonis and Pau Gasol every night and every plane ride.
too finesse
I’d have him watch tape on Shaq, Russel and Howard
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Anthony from bondage will deliver Gallinari
by Zachm219 on Dec 22, 2011 4:13 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Sabonis was way better than Shaq
before his injury. Too bad once he got to the NBA he was way out of his prime, despite being one of the best centers in the league.
Pass like Sabonis, be aggressive like Shaq in the low post and defend like Russel.
Atheist for Tebow!
"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"
"Your Agonizer please, Al Harrington"
Haha.... Phoenix isn't even a playoff team.
Why wold you use them to compare? Because Denver doesn’t have a “star” is why I’d love to have that “stopper” “back there.”
Those are the only people I can compare him with right now
Just based on what I saw. Still think he can be a stopper in the back. Remember that time he stuffed D Rose in the olympics. That wasn’t a foul.
He has more up his sleeve than people give him credit. I guess he will just show it to you on the floor this season.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Dec 21, 2011 9:28 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Also called Dalembert signing with the Rockets
I knew Morey was desperate. Not a bad deal, but why do it all when you should rebuild.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
So you finally hit on one..... 'bout tme!
It’s only a one year deal with T/O.
by TakeFive on Dec 21, 2011 7:32 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey I called Nene and Afflalo
When everyone thought they were both gone. Lol.
Still think Sammy D even for a year is a desperation move. He really doesnt do much.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Dec 21, 2011 9:25 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Well, I just typed a long-winded comment...
…agreeing with Jeff about Gallo, and tossing in Rudy off the bench as a similar lynchpin of our season. I also gave my assessment of the rest of the team and how good-to-great we’ll be if those two shine and the other stupendous talent can come together relatively quickly in this condensed season. (Nowhere near a given.)
You’ll have to take my word that it was incisive and compelling, because somehow it disafuckingppeared, and I ain’t writing it again.
At least it’s my birthday today, and as my present my sweetie got us tickets for Nuggets-Blazers down in Portland on December 29. (I live two hours northeast of Seattle.) I’ll be the older man screaming “MANIMAL!!!” I’ll also be rooting for Rudy and Dre along with most of the Blazer fans.
Yee hah!!!
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 6:11 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Happy birthday
I award you 100 stiff points. Spend them wisely.
Formerly KS and CS
by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 21, 2011 7:21 PM MST up reply actions
Happy Birthday!!!
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Thanks guys, gals and all other genders
Had a fine bday (they stop happening soon after the mid-50s, right?), and I’ll will the Nugs to victory on the road. (Uh-oh, that can be a tough row to hoe.)
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 22, 2011 3:44 PM MST up reply actions
Jeff, I love Gallo and believe he has more upside than any other Nug...
but, we are too deep for me to actually believe that its Gallo or bust.
Here’s a bit of empirical evidence, small sample, but when Gallo was injured, I think Nugs went 8 – 0.
If Gallo doesnt collapse, as long as other players flower, we will be OK, even a contender.
But, I somewhat accept your thesis because I dont believe there is another Nugget who can conceivably flower into a consistent star. Lots of effective players, yes. But no real stars.
As I suggested above, Gallo has enough physical attributes, skills, youth and ability to learn pretty quickly, a combination that no other Nugget possesses.
A big concern for me is, to be great, or a star, Gallo will need some leadership ability. As he matures, will he take on a leadership role? Will he ever impose self on a team mate, bark out orders, does he assert himself with Karl, in the locker room? We dont know.
Frankly, being a Euro with a nascent understanding of English works against him. But we’ve seen guys like Parker, Ginobilli and a few others lead. But gallo may need a few notches before he can assert self
Gallo or Bust
Gallo is not Melo but do agree he’s got a shot to be something special. Not sure it’s put a team on your back and carry it special but there’s no question he’s a top talent. That first step makes him a candidate to be the guy you run the offense through but he’s going to have to learn how to bottle it so it’s not this out of control thing that’s leading to turnover city. That’s going to take floor spacing maturity. My guess is they’ll run it through Nene, which is probably the better choice right now. That means running guys off picks on the perimeter and backpicks underneath from the weakside. Gallo’s a candidate to do both. My worries with him is being able to stay on the court, injury wise.
One thing I liked about last night are the new nicknames
Whoever came up with Lawndre is genius, the n wouldn’t work there if there wasn’t a n before the d but since Andre does have a n before the d, it is genius.
Catch phrase I look forward to: Take that lawndre and put it in the dryer!
Atheist for Tebow!
"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"
"Your Agonizer please, Al Harrington"
Braidy Bunch….
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
well I don't like to brag too much.
If DC gets cut, Andre better get his braids back. Keep the dream alive..
Atheist for Tebow!
"I do not threaten, I merely state facts"
"Your Agonizer please, Al Harrington"
hah it was a good moment
ps. it was meant to be a play on Lawson and Andre Law+ndre. ..uh ohhhhh that was some dirty lawndre
Manimal the RIDUNKULOUS!...you're all welcome
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Stole the Ridunkulous from Stuart Scott?
Crouching moron, hidden smarta**
Optimism, pessimism, F*CK THAT; we're gonna make it happen. As God as my bloody witness, I'm hell-bent on making it work.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point."
Masai Ujiri, Brian Cashman: Magnificent Bastards
Among the new handles don't forget that AAA now stands for
Absolutely Accurate Assassin.
All praise to Cat, naturally, for Ridunkulous. I love the Braidy Bunch, too. But what if they waive Carrol? It might take Harrington a while to grow enough hair to replace him in the B-B.
Ridunkulous is in the urban dictionary ...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ridunkulous
Nate_Timmons on Twitter
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Colorado Sports Guys podcast We're on iTunes (free!)
by Nate Timmons on Dec 22, 2011 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
This is incorrect.
It’s actually RiDonkulous which has been around for ages.
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
How is it incorrect? Click the link.
Also, folks saying Stuart Scott says it, probably crept into your subconscious.
Nate_Timmons on Twitter
DenverStiffs.com
Colorado Sports Guys podcast We're on iTunes (free!)
by Nate Timmons on Dec 22, 2011 5:25 PM MST up reply actions
I never listen to Stuart Scott
Mine was born of my own brain. It really was.
Read all of the definitions. One specifically says ridonkulous.
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Glad to see the beer fund is well in the black ;-)
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 21, 2011 9:51 PM MST up reply actions
Blah
Not insured.
I’m fuckt fuckt fuckt.
But. I’m drunk at least and have a day off tomorrow to look for a job where having a car isn’t so important.
Yay!
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
Time to call an ambulance chaser
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I can't afford a lawyer
P. sure I’m gonna find out where this person lives and just break some windows or something.
JUST KIDDING!
"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"
See if you can find one that will do a pro bono
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Damn, this requires help beyond a beer fund
Fly, here’s hoping you land on your feet. And on decent public transportation.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 22, 2011 4:08 PM MST up reply actions
I think I might agree with this comment but I'm not sure
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
I have landed as well
Jason Hammel : Feared Slugger was /2011'd
BigGiantHead of the Ubaldo Lover's Club;OG Thugget Loyalist #4, QPU Emeritus, Proud member PR Gynocracy
Please report on airplane ceiling status
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 22, 2011 3:45 PM MST up reply actions
If everyone is mad about our 2 PG lineup
The Clippers have a 2 PG lineup for most of the game. And their bench is only PGs (Bledsoe and Williams).
I assume one of those guys will be traded for a backup center and SG, but in the meantime I have a feeling Karl is going to play 2 PG against the Clipshow and it won’t hurt us :)
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
Me... I don't mind the so-called 2PG lineup
I mean it’s not like they’re both trying to bring the ball up the floor at the same time.
It’s five players against five players. Whoever works in the situation to win is good by me.
If all five positions function effectively...
…then sure, it’s fine and dandy. A ton of Stiffs think otherwise, right? How does this play out in the game flow, stats and so on?
This might be worth someone putting up a thread for Stiffs to discuss at length. I for one would appreciate developing a more informed opinion on the 2PG line-up.
No. More. Stickyball.
by LongWindedHank on Dec 22, 2011 4:13 PM MST up reply actions
Clippers bench sucks
I am watching that game and even the Clippers announcers are saying the Nuggets will be a force to deal with.
Not everyone is looking over us, I think the smarter basketball minds realize the talent the Nuggets have.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
So they were sweet talkin' us eh?
Let’s see the Clippers have a better?
PG…. check
SG… tossup
PF… check
C…. check
SF… not
Bench… tossup
I used to do that position check thing
But I am starting to learn it is a team sport so it becomes irrelevant. I think the Nuggets had worse in most positions post Melo trade and still ended up with an 18-7 record.
Plus AAA is better than Chauncey at the SG position so thats not close. And though CP3 has the individual hardware (though he looked like a fool against the Nuggets), Lawson is not that far off.
Griffin is the only one with a huge advantage over Nene while I think Moz may not put up the stats that DJ does, but will keep him in check.
Moz is pretty good at breaking up alley-oops.
Oh yeah and our bench is waaay better than the Clips bench right now, they have some moves to make to solidify that bench. They had to play their starters to close out the game cuz their bench was getting beat by the depleted Laker’s bench.
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Given Billip's stats so far, if Afflalo is better (let alone way better) that's great.
How can you have three starters displaced by new faces and say the Clippers bench hasn’t gotten better?
Wait... the Lakers bench did rattle off a bunch of three's
but that’s too their credit. Good to see Blake light it up btw.
Thompkins looked pretty good at Center, Mo was very good, Their bench not as good as Nuggets, true, but they don’t care as their bench will be mostly….. on the bench.
Billups better player than AAA
But he is out of position. And the Clippers bench has a lot of dudes in disarray. This season more than any, the bench is very important.
I still like how the Clippers look, but I will see how they look in April after the toll of the season.
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When you take parts (players) in the NBA
Talents arent usually additive. Its not like baseball where you could add a 30 homerun guy to a team that only had 10 homeruns in that position and you’ve added 20 HRs.
Doesnt work that way in basketball. Basketball is chemical, the players play and style affects every other player.
Thats why the Nuggets were unexpectedly good after trade (remember many thought we’d slide out of playoff picture not climb up a notch) and Knicks still average after trade. Analysts were just adding up figures after trade. The NBA is not simple arithmetic.
Also, Melo was overrated by casual observers, and Ty getting more minutes helped a lot.
i keep dancing on my own.
absolutely
Carmello is an average player. He scores 1.25 pts per shot. Thats below avg. His FG% is 45%. Thats avg for the league. He must lead the league in missed shots, no?
Its just since he takes 20 shots a game, some games are good, some avg, the rest are bad. But what ever he does, he so dominates, monopolizes the game that however he plays his particular effect is overwhelming.
Quick story. First game as Knick vs Bucks, at the Garden, after only one short practice, Mello took up 25 shots. 25!!! My jaw dropped at his audacity and frankly how terribly stupid it was.
Yes the Knick fans were cheering. So what?
Mello got lots of positive press for the 25 pts. He soared right ahead of Amare who busted his butt and knees for the Knicks.
Oh, he missed 15 shots. 10 for 25. Not a good game but Mello got good press.
I looked at some, still Knick fans and said, “Just like I told you, a horrible owner, team, team star, boring, selfish.”
Basketball is chemistry. You cant just create a Frankensteins Monster team. The Heat could still cheat this rule because they may have 2 of the best 3 players on the planet but their chemistry is still not good.
The Nene and Lawson injuries happened at practice from what I hear
Day to day can mean a couple of weeks which is a bunch of games this season. I guess Julyan can get some burn. I think Nene will be back by the first game, probably hurting from not being in the best shape.
Also says Harrington and Fernandez are hurting for tomorrow.
I am most worried about Lawson, remember how he hurt himself before the playoffs. I hope he doesn’t rush back.
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this injury thing could throw a monkey wrench into the whole works
I trust Nugget staff is working 24/7 on problems because we wont win if we consistently have 2 – 3 important cogs on injury list.
Having injured players will drastically reduce 2 of our strengths, depth and versatility. Not having a star led team means we cant just have functioning players around a 2 – 3 man core and go for it.
We have to have all of our parts working, working with each other, more or less all the time or we could really sink.
While it has yet to be confimed by a second source... apparently
The Nets, except for D-Will, are offering to trade their whole team for Nuggets’ reserves.
exactly who do the Nets have
Humpfreys? Are you kidding me? Our reserves are going to run winded starting opponents right out of some arenas.
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