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For Arron Afflalo, it's time to shine

Arron Afflalo should be sky-high after inking his new $43 million contract.

During his first season, 2009-10, with the Nuggets (his third in the NBA), Arron Afflalo built a nice role for himself with the team. He replaced Dahntay Jones (signed with the Pacers) in the starting lineup, showed a knack for knocking down three-pointers (from 43 the season before with the Pistons, to 108 with the Nuggets), and was the team's best perimeter defender. Last season, Afflalo's role with the team changed and now with his new $43 million contract - that role will change again.

Star-divide

Afflalo is hard worker, a likable and good teammate, and has improved his game in each of his four NBA seasons. What a player makes affects what the team can do in the future. Will Afflalo's game allow him to shine all the way to an All-Star appearance? Will he take this Nuggets team to the playoffs?

When I first saw the news of Afflalo's new contract, I thought the deal was 6-years for $43 million, "Wow, that's slightly more than $7 million per season ... Masai Ujiri has done it again, another great signing!" Just over $7 million per season seemed about right for the 26-year-old shooting guard who just came off his first season where he averaged double-digit scoring, at 12.6 points per game.

But the deal is 5-years for $43 million, including bonuses. The idea of $8.6 million, on average, per season is a little more difficult to swallow because the Nuggets are paying for promise and not production. The closer you get to $10 million per season - the more expectations rise. Looking around the league, Ray Allen will make $10 million this season with the Celtics, Monta Ellis - $11 million with the Warriors, and Jason Terry - $11.4 million with the Mavericks. Afflalo surely plays defense better than Allen, Ellis, and Terry, but his offensive firepower is not quite on par with them, yet. But Afflalo's game is improving and the Nuggets trust in that.

The Nuggets just invested roughly $110 million in Afflalo and Nene Hilario. The duo will account for roughly $18M-$21M of the team's salary cap this season and moving forward. The Nuggets are paying these two players as stars, not superstars - but stars. If they don't burn brightly on the court then the team wont have the flexibility down the road to bring in the proper talent, that's the gamble. Depending on where Afflalo's first year salary comes in, he will likely be the second or third highest paid player on this Nuggets team. Looking at the roster, Afflalo is part of this team's core.

The new core of this Nuggets team is as follows: Nene, Afflalo, Ty Lawson, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, and Rudy Fernandez. That is who the Nuggets will be building around and those are the pieces that I believe the Nuggets would be hesitant to trade. Rookies Kenneth Faried and Jordan Hamilton have their work cut out for them to become members of the core, but they were highly thought of as both were first-round draft picks.

So, what does this new contract mean for Afflalo?

  • His numbers must continue to increase. In his first season in Denver he averaged 8.8 points in 27.2 minutes per game. He shot 46% from the field, 43% from beyond the arc, and 73% from the foul line to go along with 3.1 rebounds and 1.7 assists. He was a two way player who was trying to find his role on a new team.

    Last season Afflalo averaged 12.6 points in 33.7 minutes per game. He shot 49.8% from the field, 42.3% from beyond the arc, 84.7% from the foul line (and double the makes and attempts) to go along with 3.7 rebounds and 2.4 assists.

    Afflalo will need to bump his scoring average up a bit to 15+ ppg and figure out a way to get to the foul line more ... 2.4 attempts should be up to 4+ per night. He's being paid to be one of the top contributors on the team and with J.R. Smith out of the picture, Afflalo will be counted on to take a bigger role with the team. In his absence late last season you could see the team struggle and one could blame the first round playoff exit on Afflalo not being able to play.

  • Leadership. This young team needs guys to step up and be accountable. Afflalo is the right player for this role. He knows the game, he has good composure on the court, and when he's talking to the refs - he knows how to speak English!

Although some may see the Nuggets as not really adding pieces in free agency this off-season, it must be noted that keeping two highly sought after players is a win for the franchise. With Carmelo Anthony leaving town and the Nuggets struggling to add free agents in the past, it's great to see guys wanting to stick around in Denver. And it's great to see the franchise trusting in their players enough to make them the stars ... not leaning on other team's guys or wanting to rebuild the entire team. Let us not forget, the core of this team took the Nuggets to the playoffs last season. Remember that incredible late-season run and the hype around challenging the Oklahoma City Thunder in the playoffs? Can you recall screaming at the TV after one of Nene's monster dunks? Or going crazy at the Pepsi Center after Afflalo's dagger shot to beat the Mavericks?

Keeping Nene and Afflalo shows that this team is pointed in the right direction. Had one or the other not been brought back, there would be some serious questions facing the franchise. Now that all anyone in Nuggets Nation is wanting to talk about is: How far can this team go?

For Afflalo, it's time to see how far his game can take him. There's no stopping him or us...


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An explanation of the other vote? I’m happy with it. I think he’s a solid character guy with a huge upside and we’ve already seen where we are without him (think OKC playoffs).

Also, that video is legit…

by DNVRBuff05 on Dec 20, 2011 3:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Hold on just a minute.....

IF… as has been typical, he has a contract with escalators, now I believe @ 7.5%, then his contract would start at around $7 million in the first year. Looked at that way this would seem to be a very reasonable deal.

by TakeFive on Dec 20, 2011 3:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Nene's deal was a flat deal

same amount each year. AAA’s could be the same.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 20, 2011 3:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Ya... You are right, I dont really know

Given Afflalo’s age I thought going with escalators might have been their choice but maybe they’re protecting their cap space by not doing those.

by TakeFive on Dec 20, 2011 4:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Geoge is right.

Afflalos value isn’t measured in stats, he just makes those around him better.
Here’s another great article on AAA’s value on hoopspeak.com.
http://hoopspeak.com/2011/12/aaron-afflalo/

by CCH on Dec 20, 2011 3:07 PM MST reply actions   3 recs

Rec'd

Rudy getting blocked back in his own face was my favorite GIF, but I guess this takes over now that Rudy’s a nugg. What a sour expression.

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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 20, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

it seems

this video is the only thing anyone recs around here anymore.

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by CloudBurst on Dec 20, 2011 5:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Because it is multi functional

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by SDcat09 on Dec 20, 2011 5:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Excellent comment....... I agree.

It was speculated Afflalo might fetch $9-10 million per year. If his contract starts @ $7 million (or so) with escalators then this was superb Ujiri work.

by TakeFive on Dec 20, 2011 3:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Make it green people!

Atheist for Tebow!

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by CloudBurst on Dec 20, 2011 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I voted other

I’m kinda Meh on the contract. Based on last years production, this is an overpayment along the lines of the Bird contract. If he continues improving, this contract could be a bargain. I’m rooting for improvement, but I see limitations to his game. But you could do worse than tie up 13% of your cap on AAA.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 20, 2011 3:19 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

And, as with the Nene contract,

even though it is a small overpayment, the player and contract are palatable enough that you could easily trade them if you ever need the cap space for a different opportunity.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 20, 2011 3:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Good assessment(s)

Again if Afflalo’s contract has escalators it starts closer to $7 million. Both players are very good assets and tradable, yes.

by TakeFive on Dec 20, 2011 4:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Great job front office

I’m very excited to see him back! Does anyone know if the game is televised tonight, and if so, what channel?

by BroncosRock! on Dec 20, 2011 3:22 PM MST reply actions  

The game is not televised.

Pretty ridiculous if you ask me. Not sure if there is an online stream …

by Nate Timmons on Dec 20, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

The game is in fact being streamed online...

http://88.80.11.29/
apparently its the new atdhe.me without all the previous issues

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by LaimbeersGuardianAngel on Dec 20, 2011 4:27 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

you are

MY HERO

Let's start a riot!

by Army of Nugs on Dec 20, 2011 4:35 PM MST up reply actions  

FirstRowSports also has the game listed to show

They were good last year and I watched games last night on their site. They offer multiple feeds depending on game. Last night’s Utah/Portland game had two, while the Lakers/Clippers had a half dozen to pick from..

by TakeFive on Dec 20, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Hmm...

Doesn’t seem to be on there right now. There was probably some kind of a mix up; all the other games are listed.

by 1WithSelf on Dec 20, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm on the fence about the price tag

He has a lot of intangibles that might make this contract worthwhile, but I don’t see his offensive game getting much better. If we’re relying on him to fill part of the gap on offense that Melo and JR left, he will not maintain his efficiency. He can’t be expected to take that many more shots and make them at such a high rate. Also, he’s not the most athletic guy that he’s going to be able to teach himself to beat guys off the dribble and he’s had problems creating his own shot. That said, he’s a puzzle piece we needed for a variety of reasons, I’m just not sure we’re going to be happy with the price when Chandler is up, when Rudy and Gallo are RFAs next year, Ty the following year, if our seven footer Mozgov blooms…

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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 20, 2011 3:24 PM MST reply actions  

If his contract has the allowed 7.5% escalators....

Then it starts @ about $7 million which is right where it should be.

by TakeFive on Dec 20, 2011 4:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Sometimes you have to be just athletic enough

AAA is very smart and has a high basketball I.Q, like Kobe Bryant, he is a student of the game. I felt like his game got better offensively after the trade, and I bet you he has been working very hard on his offense this year. M.J learned how to use his Basketball I.Q at the end of his career to still work over the newer, more athletic guys. Not saying AAA is at that level, but unlike people like Eddy Curry, he actually practices and puts a lot of effort into his game. He also has a Kobe like mentality to the game, that is why he is considered a basketball Assassin. I think the contract was well worth what AAA brings and I agree with Nate on his views here.

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by CloudBurst on Dec 20, 2011 5:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Cant wait Ill be at the game tonight

AAA, all the way! I love this guy, he is the anti-NBA elitist, and Gearge has called him the glue of the team. Great signing!

by Clompy on Dec 20, 2011 3:25 PM MST reply actions  

Not really 43 million....

Hollinger is reporting that the incentives are very unlikely to be reached and the guaranteed is only 37 million. Minor accounting difference.

It would be reasonable to expect AAA to increase production to 15.5 PPG, 4 boards, 3 assists with 43% 3pt and 80+% ft

You look around the league and look at guys who are similiar. JET, Jrich, Ray Allen. Maybe AAA cannot reach 20pg, but 15? Thats one more basket and 1 more free throw a game. Compared to these other players, we just got a steal.

danjustin386

by danjustin386 on Dec 20, 2011 3:45 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

Although injured and not enough data

Post trade, in games AAA played fully (did not get hurt and taken out) AAA averaged 13.7 points, including playoffs. 14.6 regular season only. And this was when AAA was hurt.

Now I am not going to say AAA can come back and score 20+ a game. But I think 15 is about right…maybe 18 is his ceiling in future years. And at that, its a great opportunity.

danjustin386

by danjustin386 on Dec 20, 2011 3:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Gallo is also good at penetrating and dishing

He may not draw double teams because he does not have sticky hands, but he will move the defense so AAA gets an easy shot off.

Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'

by JR15 on Dec 20, 2011 5:46 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm reccing this post because...

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by SDcat09 on Dec 20, 2011 5:57 PM MST up reply actions  

If that's the case

then I’m much happier with the contract.

Formerly KS and CS

by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 20, 2011 3:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow... that's a huge difference

If so… That contract starts under $6.5 million with escalators.

by TakeFive on Dec 20, 2011 4:07 PM MST up reply actions  

more from hollinger

Arron Afflalo to Nuggets, five years, $43 million: Thumbs down

First, semantics: I’m told this deal contains $37 million in real money and another $6 million in unlikely bonuses, which makes it a bit more palatable.

A bit. Look, I like Afflalo a lot — he’s a great complementary player because he plays defense and makes open shots. Winning teams need that. By all accounts he’s a high-character hard worker, as well. I’m sure the Nuggets thought to themselves, “If we’re going to make a mistake, let’s make it with a guy like this.”

With all that said … this is a mistake. Afflalo is not more than a midlevel player and is not about to become more. If I had to describe him briefly, I’d say something like, “Trying to become this decade’s Raja Bell, but not quite there yet.” That’s not a $40 million player. (Bell, for one, never made more than the midlevel exception.)

What’s more puzzling is that the Nuggets had effectively won. The season is about to start and nobody had yet offered Afflalo an offer sheet. I wasn’t privy to the negotiations, but I’m not sure why they felt compelled to go so high at such a late date; it sure seems like they were bidding against themselves. The only way to top Denver at this price would have been to offer a four-year offer sheet at nearly $10 million a year; nobody was doing that.

In fact, nobody had offered him anything because they figured the Nuggets would just match it. This is the power of restricted free agency, and why teams like the Nuggets, Sixers and Kings blew opportunities to keep good players at below-market rates. The Nuggets hurt themselves here on another level as well, as they’ve inadvertently set the floor for Danilo Gallinari’s contract extension.

Moreover, giving him five years makes this deal a massive risk; Afflalo is 26, and role players don’t reliably maintain their ability into their 30s. He comes off a season in which his true shooting percentage (TS%) was a scintillating 62.0; on the other hand, he had never before had a PER above 11 and one-year TS% rises often sink right back to earth the next.

Defensively, Afflalo has value because he’s tough and knows what he’s doing; he’s definitely above average. But his athletic gifts are modest, and that prevents him from being an elite stopper.

Overall, I don’t get it. Denver is still set up for an excellent regular season — more on that when my Western Conference preview goes up. Afflalo will play a role in that, so in the short term keeping him is a plus. I just have a hard time swallowing that he’ll be worth anywhere near $8 million when he’s 30, and Denver isn’t a market where you can afford mistakes like that.

by nuggzfan on Dec 20, 2011 3:50 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

Hollinger would be right

But he is assuming zero to marginal improvement from AAA. We all know he is one of if not the hardest workers on the team.

How far can he get better…I am not sure…But 2-3 points with more doesnt seem unrealistic….and if thats the case, we got great value (compared to comparable players.)

danjustin386

by danjustin386 on Dec 20, 2011 3:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I guess I'm wondering how he's going to get better

Don’t think he can find ways to play much ‘smarter’ than he already does and he’s right in his athletic prime. I guess he can try to develop his cross-over…

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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 20, 2011 4:01 PM MST up reply actions  

According to Basketball-reference.com

his “similarity scores” and mind you, I’m sure most of these players are mostly all retired are the following.

1.Johnny Dawkins.

2. Adrian Smith.

3. Randy Wittman

4. Ray Lumpp

5. Larry Steele

Similar players that you might know are J.J Redick, Aaron Brooks, Dorell Light, and Rodney Stuckey.

I’d say he is in that category of players.

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by CloudBurst on Dec 20, 2011 5:40 PM MST up reply actions  

I meant Dorell Wright.

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by CloudBurst on Dec 20, 2011 5:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I think he’s a much better all-around player than any of those guys.

Redick can do some damage shooting, and that’s about it. Brooks is dangerous on offense, and terrible on D. Wright is a major underachiever. I like Stuckey, but would definitely rather pay AAA the money we did than Stuckey.

Having an elite perimeter defender cannot be overvalued, anyone remember AAA shutting down Kobe last year? Having that one guy on defense can completely throw an offense off track, by taking away their #1 scoring option.

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by aLuffabo on Dec 21, 2011 2:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Take a look at Raja’s numbers: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/49/raja-bell … about what I’d like to see scoring wise (though a bit more) from 2005-2007. I think Raja is a pretty good comparison if AAA doesn’t improve. The Nuggets will be using AAA in a different role than Raja. Sure they both can hit threes and play defense, but Afflalo I believe has been working on his mid-range game quite a bit.

AAA hasn’t really needed to showcase his offensive skills as he was playing on Melo’s team before. He’ll be asked to do a bit more now and I think he’ll meet that challenge. Bell never was asked to step up and just never improved. I think AAA would have shown more late last season if he hadn’t injured his hamstring and then kept re-injuring it!

by Nate Timmons on Dec 20, 2011 4:09 PM MST up reply actions  

He will find ways to improve

At least enough to reach 15 or 16 ppg. For one thing he has a pretty good baseline post -up game which could be exploited more, plus the step-back jumper in the lane. If he’s as smart as I think he is, he’ll ask Dre for some post-up tips – one of the best.

AAA (Absolutely Accurate Assassin) knows his limitations in athleticism – he’s not going to try and add a 360 dunk to his repertoire. He will add stuff he can do efficiently. The deal is good, with some chance that we overpaid a bit, and just as much of a chance that we made out like bandits.

by slader on Dec 20, 2011 4:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Just stirring the pot with a contrarian smack down

Again… IF the contract is only for $37 million it would start at less that $6.5 million with normal escalators. Afflalo is absolutely worth every bit of this.

by TakeFive on Dec 20, 2011 4:13 PM MST up reply actions  

You can call me a contrarian, just not a troll please

The Raja Bell comparison above is interesting. Like everyone else, hope AAA can stay healthy and improve.

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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 20, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Nuggs are investing in him.

Hoping he’d become a Payton on defense and Miller big shot maker on offense. I’ll buy stock on that imo.

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by Kevin L on Dec 20, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions  

You don't take comfort in the Nuggets being the 2 seed in the West?

Those were his predictions, I don’t agree with everything Hollinger says but I believe he knows more about basketball than 80% of basketball fans.

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by CloudBurst on Dec 20, 2011 5:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Right? I can’t take stat geeks seriously. Like, at all…

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by aLuffabo on Dec 21, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd imagine that Gallo..

if he has another season like the past three he has had, is expendable, even then Miller coming off the books and Harrington most likely to be amnesty clause next year. I think we will have enough money to offer Gallo a good 6-7 Mil a year contract. I’m not sure since I’m not an expert at contracts but I’d expect we’d have enough to offer Gallo a good contract.

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by CloudBurst on Dec 20, 2011 5:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I think Gallo is about to light it up this year…. and when he does, I expect we’ll be paying him closer to the $10/mil a year range. This will be a good thing.

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by aLuffabo on Dec 21, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

What??? AAA re-signed....

I had no idea.

:)

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by SDcat09 on Dec 20, 2011 4:34 PM MST reply actions  

Mustang is all that is acceptable.

/looks at current Mustang
/thinks a new one would be amazing

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by SDcat09 on Dec 20, 2011 4:54 PM MST up reply actions  

My father was in love with Mustangs

Mainly the 60’s vintage. You never really knew how many of them he had at any one time. He always had several “public” one’s that everyone knew about. Then there were the others that he bought but never told my stepmother about. He’d hide them all over town, my uncles garage, the mechanics, anywhere he could. I always wondered how many she really knew about, and how many he kept hidden. It was always an adventure because you never knew what he’d show up with next.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Dec 20, 2011 4:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I had a 68 that I bought in college

No, I didn’t buy it new….:P. About 6 months after I bought it the entire rear end felt out. Literallly, on the street, at a busy intersection.

I have a 98 currently.

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by SDcat09 on Dec 20, 2011 5:02 PM MST up reply actions  

*fell out

that’s a terrible typo.

bahahahahahaha

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by SDcat09 on Dec 20, 2011 5:02 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 20, 2011 5:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Will there be a game thread?

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by SDcat09 on Dec 20, 2011 4:57 PM MST reply actions  

There better be

or there will be anarchy

Let's start a riot!

by Army of Nugs on Dec 20, 2011 5:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Just tweeted Nate and Jeff

Asking for our first game thread of the year

Let's start a riot!

by Army of Nugs on Dec 20, 2011 5:05 PM MST up reply actions  

thats a whole lotta money for our fifth option on offense

Gallo, nene, ty and maybe even miller or rudy will average more points than aaron. he doenst rebound very well, nor is he an above average passer. in fact i don’t like the ball in his hands when he’s not shooting it….

but the most interesting thing in my opinion is that he’s only an average perimeter defender according to hollingers metrics. only numbers…but still…

by MZG on Dec 20, 2011 4:57 PM MST reply actions  

Nah

I think he is the fourth option and is the sort who will score at a high percentage in the flow of the game. He can easily score 15 ppg on eight shots, draining corner threes and hitting open jumpers.

Mind, fourth and fifth isn’t that much of a quibble.

Scoring options:
Gallo
Ty / Nene
AAA
Rudy
Miller
Moz

"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"

by Fly Agaric on Dec 20, 2011 5:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Bustin some moves

…although I prefer Beat Street to the Breakin’ films.

by CJNuggz on Dec 20, 2011 5:00 PM MST reply actions  

Man...

If those, um, sknil work and I can not have to pay for cable… that’d be kinda cool.

Hmmm.

"No one likes a beggar slightly overdressed"

by Fly Agaric on Dec 20, 2011 5:19 PM MST reply actions  

They work. I'm not saying how I know...

but I know people who know people…

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by SDcat09 on Dec 20, 2011 5:24 PM MST up reply actions  

haha
TyLawson3 Ty Lawson
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by Albafica on Dec 20, 2011 5:27 PM MST reply actions  

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my dude… Rockin his new travel bag like a g @J_Goin_HAM pic.twitter.com/s7favldL

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by Albafica on Dec 20, 2011 5:28 PM MST up reply actions  

And this one...
J_Stone5 Julyan Stone
They vets making me carry this around at all times pic.twitter.com/lbSopxa5

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by Albafica on Dec 20, 2011 5:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Hello Kitty = Swag.

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by Kevin L on Dec 20, 2011 5:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I think we have a nickname idea for Hamilton!

Quick someone, think of something!

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by CloudBurst on Dec 20, 2011 5:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Kevin Durant called

He wants his backpack back

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by Artimus Mangilord on Dec 20, 2011 5:51 PM MST up reply actions  

It is that time again!!!!!

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by Army of Nugs on Dec 20, 2011 5:33 PM MST reply actions  

Good man!

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by SDcat09 on Dec 20, 2011 6:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Front page STARDOM!

NYC here I come!

Let's start a riot!

by Army of Nugs on Dec 20, 2011 6:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Front-loading contracts

I remember a while ago someone suggesting that organizations should front-load contracts during times that they have money. The rationale is that it pays the player during the time that they are most productive and makes it easier to unload mistakes in the future and makes the players much more tradeable the further they are into the contract. I think AA’s and Nene’s are great examples where that would be the best strategy. The Nuggets have excess cash this year, and could afford to over-pay up front right now. Without looking at cap space, perhaps they should have considered structuring Nene’s 65 million something like 25,15, 10, 10 and 5. Likewise, Aflalo could have been structured something like 13, 12, 8, 7 and 6. The only question would be the long-term loyalty you’d have with players making so little at the end of their contract, but would leave the team free from being tied to dead weight long-term a la KMart.

by newsman35 on Dec 20, 2011 8:32 PM MST reply actions  

I wonder if there are rules against how much you can drop % wise on contracts when you frontload. OKC did a funny signing bonus for Nick Collison last season, not sure how they worked that around the salary cap. Otherwise, yes … more teams would be and should be doing this.

by Nate Timmons on Dec 20, 2011 10:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Isn't there a rule that player cannot get a rise more than x% of their previous salary..

so if a player gets a salary that goes down progressively, doesn’t it reduce his bargaining ability?

further, if I am a player with guaranteed contract, I am pushing for backloaded contracts..unless the franchise has lot of money problems

by Kumar_98 on Dec 21, 2011 5:06 AM MST up reply actions  

not sure about the rule

but i can’t imagine many people saying that given the same amount of money, they would rather have the majority of their money later rather than now.

by newsman35 on Dec 21, 2011 7:16 AM MST reply actions  

The front-loading limit works like this

Re-signing your own player: salary can decrease by max of 10.5% per year based on the first year salary.

Signing free agent: salary can decrease by max of 8% per year based on the first year salary.

These numbers refer to the old CBA, but I haven’t heard anything about them being changed. Newsman35 has a good point, but his numbers wouldn’t work.
With the 10.5% annual decrease, Nene’s 67M contract could have a max front-load from 17 in year one to 10 in year five, more or less.
Afflalo’s 43M deal could range from 10 to 7 over five years, more or less.

Sometimes teams with cap space to spare have slipped around these limits by calling part of the deal a “signing bonus” that is awarded in the first year. This in effect is jusy another way of front-loading. Apparently Nick Collison’s deal is structured like this.

For the Nuggets, it would certainly be easier to move a 34 year-old Nene at 10M than at the 5-year average of 13.5M or a back-loaded fith year at 15M+.

by slader on Dec 22, 2011 3:05 AM MST reply actions  

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