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If Billups is traded, I will not be a fan of this franchise anymore

Sorry, I won't stand by and watch that happen, then cheer for them the next game as if nothing ever happened.  Carmelo Anthony wants to go, so let him but Chauncey Billups, the man who was born in Denver, played at George Washington High in Denver and then went to college at the University of Colorado at Boulder and became a fan favorite despite not having top winning talent around him even though he was a top prospect who could of went to any team in college if he wanted, he was that talented but his loyalties lied to Denver, the one place he called home.  After  becoming a journeyman in the NBA for awhile,  even having a stint in Denver with a much different front office than it has right now.   Even with a painfully awful team he was still eager to play along Nick Van Exel in the backcourt just because it was the Nuggets, it was his home team after all,   Even though Billups had to wait until January that year before he could play because of the lockout.



When the season finally started, Denver didn’t have enough in the tank to make the playoffs, though Chauncey improved his numbers to 14 points and four assists a night. Eager for a full year in Denver, Chauncey was devastated when he dislocated his left shoulder in December of 1999. Then, after undergoing surgery that ended his season, he received more bad news, as the Nuggets traded him to Orlando. Chauncey never suited up for the Magic, spending his few months with the team rehabbing his injured shoulder before they let him walk.  To me this was absolutely devastating to Nuggets fans and an almost heartless approach,  Billups bled Denver blood more than arguably any Denver born athlete and not only that he was talented as hell and full of potential, it was more than about trading a player, it was about trading a player who wanted to play for the Nuggets more than any player in the league simply because he wanted to hear Denver fans cheering him on, this was home and nothing else would feel more right.

 

Everyone knows about how Billups proved all his critics wrong and dominated the Eastern Conference Year after with a team that was not incredibly talented and didn't have any major stars of any sort, an undersized and undrafted Center, a Power Forward with emotional problems and criticized for being a underachiever, a young and unproven SF, a sharp shooting SG who was only truly great at playing off the ball, and Billups. In the franchise's first appearance in the NBA Finals since 1990, Detroit faced off against LA. No one gave the Pistons even an outside shot of beating Kobe, Shaq and company yet the completely dominated that series, it was no competition.

 

 

In the end, Chauncey has found a home, his real home in Denver Colorado with the ultimate place he wants to play and that is with the Denver Nuggets. The Nuggets acquired Chauncey in a trade for Allen Iverson and it has invariably been one of the best moves ever in the Nugget organization.  Billups also wants to be apart of the front office when his time is up in Denver, he wants to be apart of the community and the team and all that is good about Denver, his home, my home and I will not watch our front office trade him like he is just another player,  Billups even has said he wants to be apart of the team even if it is in a rebuilding stage, I bet he would go on the bench for Lawson once he is able to start for us.   trade Harrington, trade Chris Anderson, trade any or them but I will not support this organization if they do what they did to Billups, sorry, not going to happen and maybe I am the only one, but I care about Colorado too much, I will support every other team in Denver until the Nuggets front office is gone if this trade happens then maybe I will come around. 

 

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by CombatChuk on Jan 8, 2011 9:09 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Dude just leave already

IF you are only a fan of certain players then you arent a nuggets fan at all. I would be sad to see Chauncy go but lets be real its not like his play has been great this season and IMHO dude deserves a shot at a title and he isnt likely to get it here. I hope he gets a shot to coach here in denver but I am not about to quit on this team just becasue we traded one guy.

by nickademus on Jan 8, 2011 9:10 PM MST reply actions  

i agree with this

nuggets is an organization, not a person.

by Over-and-back on Jan 8, 2011 11:01 PM MST up reply actions  

booooo.

I could not agree less.

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Mostly, I agree

I will never stop loving and supporting this Franchise, I’m in it all the way. But i do agree that trading Chauncey is the worst thing that they could do. Chauncey deserves to play here in his hometown. He should be a Nugget for the rest of his career. Like i said on another thread, I am absolutly against ANY trade that involves Billups. Send Harrington with Melo instead.

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by stan_26 on Jan 8, 2011 9:14 PM MST reply actions  

Exactly how I feel

I will always support my team but losing Chauncey would be very sad and I will always cheer him on as well. This is the perfect match right now, Melo wants out so let him go but do not drag in the one person who wants to be here over anywhere else because of it. Denver is not a basketball hotbed and the chances of someone so deeply rooted in the city playing with the Nugs is highly unlikely to happen anytime soon.

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by Phil H. on Jan 8, 2011 9:25 PM MST up reply actions  

No way dude!

I’m from Boulder and I can’t wait to suit up for the Nuggets next season! I’m kinda tall and pretty good at basketball. Here’s my plan:
Get all of the same tattoos as bird, grow a mohawk and give the FO an out on trading his sorry ass instead of Chauncey. You don’t think anyone will notice I’m 6" shorter than him, do you?

by love4nuggets on Jan 8, 2011 11:11 PM MST up reply actions  

The difference will be noted

Birdman will suddenly be more efficient

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by Phil H. on Jan 8, 2011 11:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Shit AL is from NJ!

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by CombatChuk on Jan 8, 2011 9:26 PM MST up reply actions  

BTW

Chauncey didn’t want to play with Nick Van Exel and he didn’t want play in Denver the first time around.
It would be sad to see him leave but without Melo it would be time to give Ty the keys to the team & the only reason to keep around would be as a coach/back-up.

by adamlouis on Jan 8, 2011 9:17 PM MST reply actions  

quotes?

If he didn’t it would most likely be because of the owners.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 8, 2011 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Ty Lawson

is not as good as Chauncey Billups, right now.

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:42 PM MST up reply actions  

as much as i rip on billups

it would be wrong for the nuggets to trade him. if melo wants to leave, let him leave on his own.

i would be very dissappointed if the nuggets traded him. business is business, but we should try and do billups right.

TEAM get rid of MELO ASAP!

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by 808inDenver on Jan 8, 2011 9:23 PM MST reply actions  

its not just about him as a player

I think he has a future in our front office as well and I think he would make a great coach/GM or whatever he decides to do, I do not want to ruin that opportunity to sweeten a Jersey deal for a short term solution to a long term relationship that would be very beneficial for everyone involved.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 8, 2011 10:16 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

chauncey apparently said

if he got traded he would want to be bought out so he can come back to denver.
i hope either that happens or we trade Al instead.

by adamlouis on Jan 8, 2011 10:03 PM MST reply actions  

Did he say he'd come back to the Nuggets?

I just read that he only said he’d want to be bought out. I interpreted that as possibly meaning he’d like to at least go to a contender.

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by Agaliarept on Jan 8, 2011 10:29 PM MST up reply actions  

leave...

Chauncey is NOT the Nuggets. You’re either a fan of CB or a fan of the Nuggets

by LEEDS on Jan 8, 2011 10:06 PM MST reply actions  

Smh

If I got what he’s saying correct, it’s not about Chauncey leaving, it’s about the Nuggets making a statement that they don’t give a damn about their players.

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by Agaliarept on Jan 8, 2011 10:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I can't be either?

I love this Nuggets team, even before Billups came, long before Billups came and honestly I would rather root for a losing team with Billups than have all the talent in the world (Lebron, etc. etc) win us championships simply because they are assholes who do not really understand how some fans really feel about their teams, this is more about the state than the team which is more important by the way otherwise we would all be Rockets fans, trading Billups when Billups said he wanted to be a long term part of this organization is not only a disservice to him but also DENVER, ok?

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by CloudBurst on Jan 8, 2011 10:21 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Just letting you know.

In that body paragraph, there was ONE punctuation mark that signified the end of a sentence (i.e. a period or question mark) if you don’t count the one that you used at the end of the “etc.” in the second line.

But again, just saying. ;)

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by Agaliarept on Jan 8, 2011 10:26 PM MST up reply actions  

This doesn't have to become a Billups vs. Nuggets thing

I understand and completely respect CloudBurst’s opinion about this. It’s rare, especially in CO, to have a hometown guy play on the hometown team, especially a player with Billups’s pedigree and accomplishments. I’m usually one who generally only looks at the “business side” of sports teams but there’s no question Billups has deservedly earned a special place in the hearts of Nuggets fans and the city of Denver.

I think the strongest and most effective statement that Billups could make, has been made. Mainly that if he gets traded he wants to get bought out. NJ will never deal for Billups and give up Devin Harris only to have to buyout Billups and be stuck with Jordan Farmar as their starting PG. That makes less than zero sense for NJ.

by TChizza on Jan 8, 2011 10:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Business side..and Billups

Do you think having Billups here will increase attendence any with Melo gone?
I don’t think so. Attendence figures are not going to go up whether Billups remains or gets traded. That is because the team will NOT be as good the rest of the seasona nd perhaps for a few more seasons as well. Trading Billups reduces the Nuggets luxury tax bill at the end of the year and that is what FO is thinking (especially if they can get Cleveland involved to take use its trade exception).

I run a business, and I know that if my best employee wants to leave, I will get EVRYTHING I can out of him before he goes. I would also, if looking at my business forecast in the next few years, know that there will be lean times, I will let go of overpriced talent because at the rebuilding stage, the overpriced talent becomes an overhead that cannot produce the level that is it being compensated.

In order words, for all of the CB lovers out there, he is not producing at the rate he is being paid. Don’t give me the last 10 game averages, but look at it from the entire season thus far as well as what the future holds for a 34 year PG who cannot stay infront of younger quicker guards. Unless CB moves to a 2 guard and takes a pay cut in the future, the wise “business” (TChizza) move, is to trade him

by LEEDS on Jan 9, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

LEEDS

you are a professional idiot. Yes Chauncey sells tickets. So NO, trading Chauncey is not a ‘wise’ business move. No, Ty Lawson is not as good as Chauncey, yet. His career will also not match Chauncey’s when its over. Yes, you are a fan of business, not basketball. You should cheer for your local Wal-Mart when they open the doors every morning, the Kroenke’s would appreciate you for this. And finally N-O no. No one has to choose between Chauncey and the Nuggets.

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I can't help but feel sentimental

TChizza, you seem to be one of those rare sports fans who can be 100% rational. I am rational when it comes to work and daily life, but for some reason when it comes to the Nuggets I am extremely irrational and emotional. Hahaha! I always admired fans like you but I just can’t do it. If the Nuggets trade Billups I will be pissed! I also view such a trade as a betrayal to our most loyal Nugget.

But even from a rational standpoint, if rebuilding is the goal why trade Billups when he can simply be bought out at the end of the year? Wouldn’t it make more sense to trade Harrington or Anderson, players with longer contracts?

by the big bill on Jan 9, 2011 11:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Remember

I already confessed that I am not rational when it comes to the Nuggets which conveniently gives me an easy out of arguing on Billup’s behalf. I am also a big fan of Nene and would be quite sad to see him go as well.

by the big bill on Jan 11, 2011 4:16 PM MST up reply actions  

i bet he goes to houston

within a season this team will look about 80% different. nene is getting up there in number of seasons played but still has good trade value.

by Over-and-back on Jan 11, 2011 5:21 PM MST up reply actions  

thank dan issel for trading cb1 the 1st time

melo will be the reason for it happening the 2nd time. what is the common denominator? issel AND melo are the 2 biggest quitters in the history of the frachise. they both never put the best interest of the team ahead of themselves. it was always about them. i would rather let melo walk at the end of the year and get nothing in return than do chauncey billups like that TWICE.

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by nohoops4u on Jan 8, 2011 10:35 PM MST reply actions  

sick of this carmelo anthony bullshit already

tmac his ass and trade him to the knicks in the offseason for a TPE.

TEAM get rid of MELO ASAP!

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by 808inDenver on Jan 8, 2011 11:10 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

that is hilarious.

Trading Chauncey negates the ‘getting value’ for Melo in this deal, does it not?

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:38 PM MST up reply actions  

ya Melo will share the blame though

The front office would still be culpable if this bullshit goes through

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:39 PM MST up reply actions  

guys, I like Chauncey as much as anyone,

but can we not act like he is some kind of sympathetic character here? I think most of us would take $12m/year to play in New Jersey. The nuggets have to look out for number one here, and if this is the way to ram through the NJ trade (although I still highly doubt that CB + Rip would convince Melo to extend with the nets, but whatever), then we have to do it, because it might be the only palatable plausible outcome left at this point.

by Rainbow skyline on Jan 8, 2011 11:25 PM MST reply actions  

OK,

1. I think we all need to just take a moment and be thankful for what we have in Chauncey. As someone with great pride for my State and all of us that live here or even appreciate Colorado, I have to acknowledge Chauncey for his loyalty. I moved to LA at 20, and at the time didn’t really have an appreciation for the majesty of Colorado, but as time wore on, I began to see what an amazing and beautiful life we have here in this rarefied air. We all watched as ass-face James pulled the greatest hometown heist in history on national television this summer while over and over saying things like “Lebron’s got to do what’s good for Lebron” (he was talking about himself in third person!). I have to acknowledge Chauncey for seeing the beauty here and taking a clear stance on what he wants.
2. Now I have to ask, has he ever really said he would rather go to a contender than stay here? Because if not, please STFU about him “deserving” to go to a contender. The man has a ring and a finals MVP and has been forthright and committed to this Nuggets team. If he wants to stay here above all else, he “deserves” to stay here. He is our prodigal son, and “deserves” to be appreciated such.

by love4nuggets on Jan 8, 2011 11:36 PM MST reply actions  

This it too rich.

For all of you who say you will not be a fan of the Nuggets anymore if Chauncey is traded I have something for you. I hope this helps.

by MMGraves on Jan 8, 2011 11:38 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

not cool

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by SDcat09 on Jan 9, 2011 12:16 AM MST up reply actions  

lol, I generally am not a fan of being that rude....

but seriously, people need to grow a pair. They will be the Nuggets with or w/o Billups. You stop being a fan because a player leave? then you were never a fan of this team in the first place.

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by Colsportsfan on Jan 10, 2011 11:57 PM MST up reply actions  

has nothing to do with having a pair.

Mines bigger than yours though, I’m sure of it. Why do you love to root for The Wal-Mart kin? That is basically what your saying you are a fan of. The owners of a sports franchise. It’s a business… never forget.

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Wait, pairs and then singular?

Are you saying you have one ginormous testicle? Is that what the Wun in AceWun stands for? Some hippity-hop spelling of one? You know what they say about guys that feel the need to brag about their gigantic testicle…..?

I’m asking, because I sure don’t.

by love4nuggets on Jan 11, 2011 10:56 PM MST up reply actions  

And I gotta say. You guys all know I defend Melo on here more than most and respect his desire to play in NY

BUT if he forces the Nugs FO to trade Chauncey with him to complete a deal with NJ then he can kiss my ass forever. How hypocritical would it be for him to want to play in his hometown in front of his family and friends yet then demand someone is taken from his hometown? That better not be the case,

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by Phil H. on Jan 9, 2011 12:03 AM MST reply actions  

Yep.

I’ll probably get really irrirtated if I see him flashing his smile in the game tonight. Just my pure gut reaction.

by CaddyJack on Jan 9, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions  

melo reminds me of the woman that needs to go to the bathroom but will not go because

another woman has to go with her. he wants out of denver. he wants max money. he wants the franchise to be built around him but he knows he could never lead a team to a championship. gotta give lebron credit though. cavs had the best record last regular season. the way melo is stinking up the gym it is becoming more embarrassing than when he laid down on the floor against ok city.

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by nohoops4u on Jan 9, 2011 11:13 PM MST up reply actions  

what?

Why do people seem to think that Melo is behind this? He doesn’t even want to go to New Jersey, he said he felt bad Chauncey got dragged in, and oh ya HE DOESN’T HAVE ANY SAY ABOUT THE MATTER. This decision is and will continue to be made by suits who are good at counting numbers.

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:30 PM MST up reply actions  

ummmmmmmm...............because..................he as not signed the contract extention?

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by nohoops4u on Jan 11, 2011 11:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Melo has nothing to do with Chauncey being added to the deal.

Other than he doesn’t want to come back to Denver next year, and Nuggets reaction to this by trying to get value for him before he leaves.

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:32 PM MST up reply actions  

they’re not gonna do chauncey dirty like that

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by Kevin L on Jan 9, 2011 12:56 AM MST reply actions  

Hell, I'd be EMBARRASSED to be a Nuggets fan if we shit on Chauncey like that.

He said he wants to be a Nugget, let him goddamn stay. Just by saying he wants to be here he’s doing 10230912 times more than Melo’s doing right now, and the FO wants to package them together and ship him out because Melo’s being a crybaby? Seriously?!

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by Agaliarept on Jan 9, 2011 1:36 AM MST reply actions  

Chauncey needs to stay! Ditch the bitch melo

Agreed! Chauncey is a real man. He wants to support the franchise through thick or thin. I have recently wondered whether he even wants melo around, considering melo’s egomaniacal behavior and his me first approach on offense and no defense. Who would want to play with someone who can’t committ to his teammates who actually want and are trying to win. It has been obvious when melo isn’t playing that the team plays much better together, maybe they aren’t as talented, but the effort sure seems better!

by BigHarold on Jan 9, 2011 1:57 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

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by CombatChuk on Jan 9, 2011 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

oh my goodness.

You’re killing me! I’m about to piss my pants I’m laughing so hard. That’s what’s up tho, exactly how I feel.

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:24 PM MST up reply actions  

meant to put this comment here

You’re killing me! I’m about to piss my pants I’m laughing so hard. That’s what’s up tho, exactly how I feel.

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:25 PM MST up reply actions  

this is meant to be a reply to agaliarept

but it keeps putting it here. oh well, I agree with this guy too.

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I understand those who mention the business side of the deal

but I think that while there certainly is a large business side of sports it appeals far more to an emotional side within fans. People watch sports to get away from all of the business aspects within their lives, it’s a form of entertainment and relief from more stressful issues. So people have to understand why some of us are so attached to Chauncey staying in Denver for symbolical and sentimental reasons. We relate to his love of the state and city and his love for our hometown team. We all would love to play at home if we were in the pros and we love to root for someone who comes from here. So yes there is a business side but in the end we are sports fans while watching the Nuggets and not businessmen.

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by Phil H. on Jan 9, 2011 12:57 PM MST reply actions  

You All Are Forgetting One Important Thing

Besides the fact that Chauncey’s early production this season was hobbled by a wrist injury, and that once it healed up he began having 30+ point games and making assists and steals like nobody’s business,

Besides the fact that his play of late has demonstrated that he can more than hold his own with younger guards,

Besides the fact that he’s a hometown boy with a love for his city and a remarkable talent that it would be extremely stupid to trade just to please Melo,

The truth is the younger guys like Ty need his leadership, example, and all the teaching/tricks of the trade that they can learn from a man with his knowledge of the game. Chauncey isn’t just good at what he does, he makes the other players on his team better (outside of and unlike Melo).

Chauncey isn’t just great at what he does, he’s also the best mentor to the young guys we have coming in that we’ll ever see. The incoming young guys will only benefit from his know-how, he will only make them better, and that’s why the Nuggets would be unbelievable idiots to trade him. I so hope they buy out his contract if he does move to NJ.

Trade off the entire team if you have to (okay, let’s keep Nene), but if anything CB1 is the one player we should be keeping. He’s the only member on the team that makes other players better.

Think about it: who else on our team is going to show the new guys how to respect their coach, how to focus on D, how to develop mental toughness for an 82 game season, how to play team ball, etc. Any other Nugget capable of doing all that?

Didn’t think so.

Michael Ray Richardson on the Nuggets:

Reporter: What do you think is happening to the team?
Richardson: The ship be sinking.
Reporter: How far can it sink?
Richardson: Sky's the limit.

by Scissor on Jan 9, 2011 2:56 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

kmart?
who else on our team is going to show the new guys how to respect their coach, how to focus on D, how to develop mental toughness for an 82 game season, how to play team ball, etc. Any other Nugget capable of doing all that?

just kidding about that. i hope they send kmart back to jersey.

by Over-and-back on Jan 9, 2011 3:06 PM MST reply actions  

for all the chauncey lovers out there

for whatever good it’ll do, here’s the nuggets email address so you can tell them what you think of trading him. nuggetsmail@pepsicenter.com. Who knows if anyone besides some feckless junior intern clerk will see them, but it’s worth a tray.

Michael Ray Richardson on the Nuggets:

Reporter: What do you think is happening to the team?
Richardson: The ship be sinking.
Reporter: How far can it sink?
Richardson: Sky's the limit.

by Scissor on Jan 9, 2011 3:37 PM MST reply actions  

+1 just for the use of feckless in a sports blog

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by SDcat09 on Jan 9, 2011 3:41 PM MST up reply actions  

thank you, i reckon that cancels out my lame carmelo/dracula joke.

Michael Ray Richardson on the Nuggets:

Reporter: What do you think is happening to the team?
Richardson: The ship be sinking.
Reporter: How far can it sink?
Richardson: Sky's the limit.

by Scissor on Jan 9, 2011 3:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I understand how Cloud feels. I went away from the Nuggets and the NBA pretty much

for all of the 90’s until they drafted Melo. Melo’s presence got me interested in the team again. And when we brought in AI, it became fun again. AI didn’t work out but we got Chauncey. Pretty much for me, the Nuggets have been the most entertaining team in the NBA (regardless of record).

I’m not so sure how much interest I’ll have going forward if the blow up the entire team.

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by SDcat09 on Jan 9, 2011 3:44 PM MST reply actions  

what do you guys think of this billups-less melo trade

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=23xtbzx

Nuggets get Favors, Morrow, Camby and picks
Nets get Melo, Andre Miller and Brandon Roy
Blazers get Harris, Murphy, Shelden, filler and a pick

Blazers may want to unload Roy given his bad knees and huge contact. This would cut huge salary and let them start over. Nets billionaire owner may take on Roy and his contract to get Melo. Melo could be convinced of NJ if Dre and Roy joined him. Trade leaves Chauncey on the Nuggs.

by skithebert on Jan 9, 2011 3:49 PM MST reply actions  

Why would the Nets take Roy and his bad knees?

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by SDcat09 on Jan 9, 2011 3:53 PM MST up reply actions  

to get melo

we all know how desperate they are. would they really balk if this is their only chance at relevance?

and a lineup of Andre Miller, Brandon Roy, Melo and Brook Lopez could be pretty damn dangerous

by skithebert on Jan 9, 2011 4:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm down with that.

We keep CB1 who’s my favorite player, and bring back Camby, who’s my second favorite after Chauncey. HELL YEAH.

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by Scissor on Jan 9, 2011 3:54 PM MST up reply actions  

If Billups does buyout and go back to Denver, that would be fine.

He has a future here long after he is a player if we do the right thing and keep him. He is intelligent enough to be a coach or general manager, and wise and easy going enough to not be a over the top hard ass like Nate Mcmillan. I just thinking trading Billups is more than a slap to him, more like a slap to Colorado in general.

"We'll move the Earth for A Title"

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by CloudBurst on Jan 9, 2011 5:30 PM MST reply actions  

Is that possible?

I agree with you completely, but I just don’t feel like Chauncey coming back after the buyout is realistically going to happen. For one thing, would he want to come back after he feels unwanted by the Nuggets? I understand he loves it here, but he might (rightfully) feel disrespected if we include him in the deal.

Also, I have my doubts about the Nuggets wanting him back. With Harris and Lawson on the roster already, the team is crowded at PG, and with the team undoubtedly going into re-building mode, would the Nuggets want to pay money to an aging player?

by Hanzlik's Happy Camper on Jan 9, 2011 9:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Harris would most likely be traded in a package

of Harrington or someone else to trade for a true Center.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 9, 2011 11:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh and remember what Big Z did with the Cavs last year

he would return after 30 days I believe.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 9, 2011 11:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I have a confession

I boycotted the Nuggets for almost 10 years. The reason I stopped watching the Nuggets from the late 90s to 2008 is because we traded away Billups. That trade pissed me off to the point where I couldn’t watch the Nuggets anymore. I did however endure the horrific 97-98 season. Even loyalty has its limits! Especially if you are as passionate as I am! Keep Billups dammit!

by the big bill on Jan 9, 2011 11:26 PM MST reply actions  

I feel ya

that was just like what the Chargers did to Drew Brees when he got that injury as an excuse to trade him, just classless.

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by CloudBurst on Jan 9, 2011 11:36 PM MST up reply actions  

yep.

I was mad too, but more at the NBA as a whole, after that whole LA-Sac WCF showed me that NBA officiating is a farce.

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Its a Business

get over it. I love Chauncey too but if its going to make the team better. Long term then great. At the end of the year I think the Nets can buy out his contract for $3 million. And then after a couple months with the NJ Nets, he can return to Denver, retire a nugget, and work in the Front office

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by waterboy31321 on Jan 10, 2011 9:40 AM MST reply actions  

I'm gonna root for Denver...

with or without Billups.

But just the fact that Billips wants to stay in Denver, play in Denver, win in Denver, retire in Denver and coach or work in Denver makes me like Billups that much more. It makes me hope he doesn’t get traded or at least gets an immediate buyout so he can return to Denver in 30 days.

I’m no bandwagon fan. Well, maybe I am. I don’t know. I don’t care. I’ve always rooted for the Nuggets. But I’m a basketball fan first, Nuggets fan second. Whatever happens, happens. To be honest, I just want the drama over and the pieces to settle where they may.

And I have no hard feelings toward Melo. Best Nugget in my lifetime. I’m sad he wants to go but he is ten times classier than LeBron because he isn’t stringing Denver along.

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by Fly Agaric on Jan 10, 2011 9:56 AM MST reply actions  

Rec'd x1000, would have posted this here if I'd seen this post first.

A business is a business but there is also something called team chemistry and loyalty to consider.

Chauncey “The Disposable Superstar” Billups is apparently on the trading block, again, and frankly, it makes me sick to my stomach. This is a guy who wanted to come back to Denver and help this team win a championship, has been nothing but professional in his time here since the AI trade went down and we’re all talking about trading him like he’s just trade filler to accommodate Melo’s primadonna act.

Chauncey’s game is not what it was. Everyone knows that, everyone understands that. But he is still a leader and a damn fine one. When the Nuggets need critical FTs, Chauncey is there to step up. When the Nuggets need someone to rally the troops and get their heads right, Chauncey pulls them back in it. Chauncey may not be as capable a shooter or as dynamic a passer as he was earlier in his career, but he is a leader, far more than Melo ever has been (or will be) and has been a solid rock in every game I’ve watched. It was bad watching Camby get traded to the Clippers in a salary dump after his time in Denver.

To do Billups like this, to send him to fucking New Jersey just to satisfy Melo’s frankly childish middle-schooler “I’m just playing coy until I get what I want” act makes me not want to be a Nuggets fan anymore. Chauncey is a hometown guy and shouldn’t even be considered in a deal like this. The Nuggets have a team option on him next season and I am positive that if the Kroenkes opened a dialogue with him, he’d come back for less than his scheduled salary.

No bones about it, Nuggets fans, if we can’t show loyalty to the mental leader of this team, a guy who wants to retire a Nugget, who wants to take this team to a championship and mentor our young guards in Lawson and Afflalo, this organization is making a colossal mistake.

Swats.

by Colin Neilson on Jan 10, 2011 10:01 AM MST reply actions  

I'd hate to see Billups leave the Nuggets

it’s rare that you have successful homegrown talent you can actually root for and not feel all homerish about because they’re actually good.

Plus he really wants to stay. I mean, the man has put in the work. At this stage of his career he deserves a little more respect instead of just throwing him into some deal as trade filler.

But for what it’s worth I don’t think your front office is really trying to trade Billups. It doesn’t make sense to me, same as the 5 first rd picks. Not that asking for 5 first rd picks is crazy, but expecting a team to give up 5 first rd picks is. I don’t know what the endgame is but it looks like smokescreens are being sent to cloud some shrewd maneuvering.

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by Lord Smackington on Jan 10, 2011 8:56 PM MST reply actions  

That is pretty sad....

I root for the team, not the players.

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by Colsportsfan on Jan 10, 2011 11:51 PM MST reply actions  

then why aren't you rooting for the Houston Rockets

because it was originally the Denver Rockets. Sorry, I root for the State, the team comes second and Billups is Denver, the man wants to not only be apart of this team, but also the community, donates to the city, he understands his responsibility to the community, that is much more important then just “the team”.

"We'll move the Earth for A Title"

"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."

by CloudBurst on Jan 11, 2011 2:00 AM MST up reply actions  

houston was originally the san diego rockets of the nba

denver was the rockets of the aba. denver switched names to nuggets in anticipation of joining the nba.

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by nohoops4u on Jan 11, 2011 11:57 PM MST up reply actions  

The players ARE the team

Chauncey IS Denver, and anyone who thinks he should just be dealt away like any other player is: a) obviously a zombie transplant who should assimilate or leave b) suffering from short term memory loss, because Billups for Iverson was, like, the best trade ever made, just 25 months ago. Why don’t you quit being a pseudo fan, and root for your hometown WNBA team, since you love the TEAM so much. Saying your loyalty is to the team and not the players is a dumb thing to do in my opinion. Professional sports teams are BUSINESSES. Ask the people in Cleveland if they wanted LeBron to stay because they love the Cavs, or if it was because he’s from Ohio. Will Cavs fans feel betrayed if that idiot owner trades Mo Williams away? The nuggets are owned by the Walton kin. You root for Wal-Mart in the DJI too? Kick rocks.
Once in a while a special player or player(s) come along and they’re worth being loyal to. Because they are loyal to you, and fans are loyal to them. He doesn’t even necessarily have to be from the city or state he’s playing for. Chauncey was this guy for the Pistons, until dumb Joe Dumars made one of his several bad moves. John Elway, Todd Helton and Chauncey Billups all fit the mold. Probably Sakic and Forsberg, but who gives two shits about Hockey…
Did you know Chauncey Billups gave millions to the city to renovate and expand the Hiawatha Davis rec center in Park Hill, where he grew up? He did it before he even came back to Denver a champion. When he won championships with Detroit, I felt like Denver won, because we’ve never won anything basketball related here in Denver. Did you know Chauncey Billups runs a basketball camp every summer for kids in Denver? The Kroenke’s trading away a guy like Billups is as bad or worse than LeBron leaving Ohio. He went to high school here, he went to College here, he wants to stay here and is highly committed to the community, as the (real) community is committed to him. He wears number seven to honor John Elway. He wore number 4 to honor Joe Dumars (how ironic). Seeing him be shunned by Denver twice is a little too much to handle. I was upset the first time he was let go, and look at what a bad decision that turned out to be. Luckily it only made him a better person and basketball player, because that’s the person Chauncey is. He has reached an age, and built a reputation that demands admiration, adoration and respect. And while I like me some Denver Nuggets, if they are so obtuse that they can’t see his value, then the Denver Nuggets can go on and rot in the pepsi center with pictures of Birdman’s tattoed mohawk caricature all over the walls until they leave town. Maybe then it would dawn on them that winning and loyalty are the two most important things to a franchise.
Dealing Chauncey would show me that these out-of-towner owners lack enough perspective to make decisions about the team they are asking fans to support. The fact that his name’s come up already has me wondering about them already.

by AceWun on Jan 11, 2011 6:08 PM MST reply actions  

I am amazed that so much stupid can come from one person.

You said wayyy too many stupid things to address them all so I’ll just do a roll-up; you clearly do not understand people, sports, or fandom.

Please take your Chauncey bro-mance somewhere else. It is sickening even to Chauncey fans.

by MMGraves on Jan 11, 2011 7:08 PM MST up reply actions  

You need to just be quiet.

No one is singling out anyone here besides you.

"We'll move the Earth for A Title"

"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."

by CloudBurst on Jan 11, 2011 9:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I wasn't talking to you.

Mind your own business and go shine Chauncey’s dome.

by MMGraves on Jan 11, 2011 10:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I generally agree with you, minus the vehemence

and the way you attack people on here. Take it easy with the personal stuff towards your fellow stiffs, if you don’t mind. We’re all Nuggets fans here.

by love4nuggets on Jan 11, 2011 11:03 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Right on AceWun

You need to comment on here more often. You are going to get warned though for the inflamatory language so all the so call “fans” of the Nugs can still give their pathetic perspectives. With you 100% on this one.

by Gasus on Jan 12, 2011 12:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I guess its time for rebuilding

If I was in charge of the Nuggets what I think I’d do is let Carmelo go, get rid of Birdman as he really doesn’t add much, and keep Chauncey around to be an elder statesman while building the team around Lawson and Afflalo. Get a couple of more young guys, particularly bigs, and have Billups help train the squad into an assisting machine and that would be a hell of a fun team to watch. Also I’d keep Smith around just because he’s damned crazy and I love that.

by dekejones on Jan 14, 2011 1:11 AM MST reply actions  

Hell, even if Chauncey is traded right now he could come back when his contract is bought out and work as assistant coach to Karl in a few years time and that would be great.

by dekejones on Jan 14, 2011 1:13 AM MST up reply actions  

its not that serious
If Billups is traded, I will not be a fan of this franchise anymore.

by cheers from manhattan on Jan 17, 2011 3:35 AM MST reply actions  

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