If we get a little help from Brandon Roy's knees...
by Ace Magoo on Jan 12, 2011 1:37 PM MST
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Well, now it's public that Denver would like both Favors and Batum. IMO Portland may bite at D. Harris and a 1st for Miller and Batum (Miller to NJ and Batum to the Nuggz), but it's not looking likely. What would pique Portland's interest, however, would be to rid themselves of Roy's contract. So let's make things a little simpler for the Nuggets FO with the following trade...
Here it is on the trade machine.
NJ gets: Melo, Harrington and Roy (get well soon Brandon!!).
Denver gets: Batum, Favors, T. Murphy and Morrow and a pick or two
Portland gets: D. Harris, D. James and a pick
I know Denver is reluctant to take Murphy's contract, but I think that is posturing at this point and becomes less of an issue as the season rolls along and their obligation to pay his salary is reduced. They also get cap relief by swapping Al's contract for Morrow's (who has some upside and provides depth in case any other roster moves need to be made). Most importantly, they get two young pieces plus a pick or two (hopefully). What Denver is giving up compared to the much rumored deal is cap relief. If they covet Batum this much, though, then I think it's worth it. BTW if I was GM and was looking to rebuild the team, I would want to keep Chauncey the next year or two to mentor them on playing the right way (especially given that KMart may leave after this year).
Portland needs to shed the Roy contract and will be hard pressed to do so this year because of his BYC status. They upgrade at the PG position andcan bring Miller off the bench or trade him to another team. A 1st round pick is included to seal the deal.
NJ gets Melo plus another star in Roy, plus a decent depth player in Al. Obviously this trade has a huge caveat in Roy's health, but if he can play at 80% of his normal self on a regular basis NJ may take it.
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Yeah for the rest of this year...
Then figure the NBA is locked out in ’11 and they can move for CP3 in 2012.
Same problem as always
Melo wont sign for Jersey
He hasn't ruled one way or the other on NJ
He hasn’t signed off on NJ but hasn’t ruled them out either like he did with the Bobcats. I think a lot depends on the makeup of the trade and what pieces NJ can acquire in 2012. If there’s a lockout then he only has to play in NJ for a couple months, as the Brooklyn arena will be open for the 2012 season.
by Ace Magoo on Jan 12, 2011 2:24 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Whatever..If he wanted Jersey
he would have been there a long time ago. His agent wants him there so he can get paid. At the end of the day, Melo has to sign on the dotted line and there is no way he will. Jersey is a disaster. Nothing has changed. Hes going to New York, or by some miracle, he might decide to stay in Denver. No way he goes to Jersey.
Do they actually want to get rid of Roy?
Or is that just speculation…?
When will the NCAA admit that it is a business with the sole purpose for making money off of student athletes?
Speculation
Based on health and ugly contract. It’s going to weigh Portland down for the next 5 years and I think if they can shed it for young talent plus a 1st in return they’d do it. They have too many holes to fill (esp with Oden’s flameout) not to consider it.
by Ace Magoo on Jan 12, 2011 2:35 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
No Way
portland doesnt ok this trade they want to get some real quality pieces for roy even with his injury im sure they think they can get more. They are probably looking to move Oden before they are trying to move roy. I do believe that portland is the missing 4th team in this trade if they and detroit are looking to make a bigger splash. check out the trade link below.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4qmszux
best part about this trade is that chauncey gets to stay. This works out for all parties involved. Nets get melo and a good core of player to surround him with. Nuggets get Favors Batum and bring back camby to add a true center to the team. Even though Camby’s contract is a n albatross its only for 2 years and it will get to unload harrington’s contract. Detroit gets some expiring contracts to save money and former first overall pick who will hopefully play a full season and can restructure his new contract when the time comes. Portland is the only team i believe might be willing to take on Outlaw contract as he is familiar with the team and has played his best years there they also get a new promising big man in Greg Monroe to replace Oden.
Of course the nets would throw around up to 4 picks to sweeten the pot for all involved. But i think it benefits all parties. So tell Me what do you think?
by bettacalltyrone on Jan 12, 2011 2:19 PM MST reply actions
+100000000000000, i like this trade...
we keep billups and get camby back… and move Nene to PF OR trade bird away for anything and nene come off the bench for camby..
by the nuggets fan on Jan 12, 2011 3:13 PM MST up reply actions
Gotta remember something
Camby is like….36 years old. No way you bench Nene
"They are an awesome group to have on my side. And on Sundays I always feel a little bad for the other quarterback, but not too bad."-Ben Roethlisberger on the Steeler's Defense-
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Procrastination isn't the problem, it's the solution. So procrastinate now, don't put it off
Move him to the bench
Whatever…lol
"They are an awesome group to have on my side. And on Sundays I always feel a little bad for the other quarterback, but not too bad."-Ben Roethlisberger on the Steeler's Defense-
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Procrastination isn't the problem, it's the solution. So procrastinate now, don't put it off
I don't think Portland would do it
over the lives of the contracts involved they end up taking on a lot of salary, plus they seem pretty darn determined to keep Batum. Also, they didn’t even want to keep Outlaw when he was on a rookie contract, much less the ridiculous deal he has now
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Trade Melo!
I think you are right
But they may be interested in replacing Oden with Camby from what i have heard as long as NJ gives them Morrow and a nice pick as well. They are hurting for some 3 pt shooting. Would you be willing to take a chance on Oden?
by bettacalltyrone on Jan 12, 2011 5:09 PM MST up reply actions
i thought of something similar before
a little simpler though
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4jrgvfg
the fans dont seem to care about the salary
They really scoffed at my trade idea and value both camby and Batum high. Its like they believe that they could get Melo for those two alone…so i doubt the take forbes and Shelden Mr Candace Parker Williams as a replacement. My scenario tried to give them some younger pieces to develop. But i think that they like most fans are valueing their own players to highly.
by bettacalltyrone on Jan 13, 2011 7:58 PM MST up reply actions
i also feel like they're gonna deal Oden before Roy since Roy is the face of their franchise right now.
But you never know what could happen. Rich said he’s not gonna give up on Greg yet so who knows.
by InboundingLobPass on Jan 13, 2011 12:17 AM MST via mobile reply actions
I con't see Portland giving up on Roy just yet
but they may want to because his salary might even harder to move with lower pay all around under a new CBA. Doubt it, though.
I am convinced we need to keep Chauncey, and this trade does that and improves NJ a lot:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=46dgxvq
so does this one, and gets closer to the original idea plus Al H:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6e666qx
In this one NJ keeps its current core of Lopez, Harris, Morrow, Farmar and Outlaw, adding Melo and Harrington. I think that makes them become immediately relevan, which is important in extending Melo.
Lopez in particular should benefit, as he will never be doubled with Melo around.
Nuggets add Favors, picks and tons of cap space. They may wish to extend Humphries, but Murphy’s 12M will go away.
As a Nets Fan
i appreciate any trade which keeps morrow around but i dont see the 2nd option happening. Den doesnt want Murphy’s contract and i doubt the would take on another pg if chauncey and cartr are staying.
by bettacalltyrone on Jan 13, 2011 8:02 PM MST up reply actions
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